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> News
- Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy VII is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter.
- A special broadcast for Super Smash Bros. will air some time in December.
- PM 3.6 now available for download: projectmgame.com/en/download

> Resources and Guides
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Last thread: >>122140262
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>>122158536
Scorpion/Sub when?
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>first time in months that we get so many threads
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Anyone want to play?
My NNID is Sakuyadorf
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>>122158536
http://strawpoll.me/5992360/
http://strawpoll.me/5992360/
http://strawpoll.me/5992360/
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So aside from Smash, what other games are good on Wii U? Looks like I'll be buying one after Christmas now.
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reminder that today didn't show ballot results. That's december. And we still know who won
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>>122158685
Hey
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Linkle is cute! CUTE!
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>>122158692
Shrek, Goku and John Cena
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>>122158692
I want them just to win for the fanart desu
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>>122158752
sent and hosting
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>>122158692
>implying its not a iconic character from the game
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>>122158538
What are you sayig?
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>>122158692
Pic related
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>>122158878
>being american
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>>122158803
link is still cuter
>>122158830
>implying they don't already have tons of fanart
more smash related stuff would be good tho
>>122158867
>callie and marie playing like projectile/zone control based IC's
this would be better
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>>122158803
There's LITERALLY no point in creating this OC when they're making Link gender-neutral from now on, starting with the very next game.
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>>122159087
>gender neutral
Source: your ass? He's just a male Japanese character.
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>>122159087
>I've only heard about them I didn't watch the direct!
They're two different characters.
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>>122159179
>Screencap me if you want, but I'm calling it. Sora's chances are looking brighter than ever for being in Smash.
I'd love to be as optimistic as you. Sora is just about all I want in Smash right now.
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Good games, dubs.
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>look at the top spots of these fucking ballots, Sakurai! Anime protag, anime protag, anime protag, fucking Cloud Strike, anime protag, Master Chief, that guy from the Sony commercials, more anime, it just goes on and on like this...
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>>122158536
meleefags officially btfo

anime swordsmen for lyfe doods
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>>122159345

>Wanting yet another anime swordsman

I'd rather have Mickey Mouse over Sora.
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>>122159087
>they're making Link gender-neutral from now on
this is a bad idea, link needs to be a cute boy.
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>>122158687
Where's "Eh"?
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Reposting here for others to see.

Crazy theory time.

We saw Cloud's Advent Children outfit showcased in today's trailer. Awesome. But, we didn't see his next most iconic appearance represented, and one that would sate the palates of a few ravenous fanboys who want the series to have SOME representation in Smash.

I'm talking about Cloud's KH1 outfit.

Now, why wouldn't Nintendo showcase this with Cloud? It only makes sense for him to have it as an alternate outfit. After all, he had it in Dissidia, and as aforementioned, it's one of his most iconic looks.

Maybe Nintendo was waiting for something. Maybe they were waiting to reveal something KH-related down the line.

Maybe they wanted to show off his outfit with Sora's reveal trailer.

Screencap me if you want, but I'm calling it. Sora's chances are looking brighter than ever for being in Smash.
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>>122159345
Sora is even less Nintendo than Cloud. No thank you.
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>>122159550
Reh
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>>122159345
god if this fucking key wielding fuck is in the game just to appease weebs and autists that think donald and goofy are EPIC i'm gonna smash my wiiU
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>>122159664
plus at least Cloud came from a good game
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>>122159550
right here fuckface
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>>122159646
Cloud is most likely the last random character, though. Next month will probably be the ballot winners. And they're not going to put Sora in as a ballot winner.
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>>122159664
>Sora is even less Nintendo than Cloud. No thank you.

>Sora is in four (4) different games on Nintendo consoles, one of which was released relatively recently
>Cloud was in 1, kind of.

>>122159646
>Maybe they wanted to show off his outfit with Sora's reveal trailer.
As much as I'd like to believe this theory, I don't think we've ever had a new character come with a new costume for an already released character. I don't think they'd do that
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>>122159646
That sounds hype as fuck. I was way too hyped for today, but I'm hyped for a whole fucking month now. I did not realize how badass this edgy motherfucker Cloud is.

But be honest with me, all the Advent Children outfit needs is a fedora, and we have a suitable replacement for Shadow.
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>>122159874
go play FFVII
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>>122159805
>Cloud wasn't a ballot winner
Bullshit, this probably came straight off the top of the cancerous list itself, or right from under Goku.
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be honest, how would the skill ceiling change if they removed the buffer window
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>>122147426
>shitty webcomic
Nice awful taste, faggot.
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>>122160038
The game would be slightly faster and slightly less frustrating. Very minimal impact competitively except more people playing a very slightly more enjoyable game I guess.
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>>122160038
That's what they get for doing Samus dittos.
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>>122159805
>spongebob vs cloud soon
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>>122160113
>slightly faster
in what way
>minimal impact competitively
>from 11 frames to 1 to make a frame perfect input to follow up a state where you can't make an input (namely hit stun or aerial strings)
Seriously, in what way
>>122160131
>implying me in webm
stolen from youtube
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>>122160309
>implying they means you
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>>122160498
i misread the post. i accept it
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>>122160038
OoS options would probably be a little worse since you wouldn't be able to buffer attacks OoS anymore and there'd be less SDing because of dumb shit like getting hit by a weak knockback move and the buffer causing you to throw out an aerial.

Some players would probably play a lot worse for a couple weeks or a month till they get used to not having a buffer but besides that nothing really big.
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Anyone for some 3DS action?
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I feel so sad I missed everyone reaction to the Cloud bombshell.

Oh well, would anyone like to play? NNID; Falafei
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I need more speculation you guys.

Who won the ballot? Who do you want?
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>>122158752
Neat games.
Well I'm gonna take a break from this game.
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>>122160942
Sephiroth won the ballot. And I want Nathan Drake in Smash.
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>>122160942
Cloud. Ray.
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>>122160942

My wishlist is K.Rool, Dixie, Layton or Wright, Kamek, and someone else from wind waker
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>>122160945
Thanks. See if I can spot a 2v2 or something.
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>>122160942
>who won the ballot
Probably inkling. They likely saw the votes and knew that both series would gain plenty from adding them.
>Who do you want
my favorite indie genie
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>>122159345
The moment this guy enters smash will be the day Disney will be all over Nintendo to license their shit and put them in disneyworld.
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>>122161062
>tfw tetra would be way cooler/cuter/higher tier than zelda
>tfw sakurai won't do it
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https://twitter.com/CASHAMILL/status/78163126826188800


if you could see the future what would you share with us?
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>>122161268
Best Zelda
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>>122161276
Your death.
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>>122160942
The idea of Cloud or some other Deviantart/GameFAQs favourite NOT topping the ballot in popularity is ludicrous. He's even bishy enough to get all the female votes unlike Goku. I bet Sora was somewhere close too.

The only reason not to expect him was that they said they were gonna read shit and not just hand it to the most-voted. More practically speaking they were probably going to give it to the most-voted that they could reasonably put in the game.
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>>122161178
Disney barely acknowledges KH, unfortunately.

I don't think I saw one KH-related anything in Florida's Disney park, and they never do anything with it regardless.
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>>122161101
>tfw it'll never happen

Just kill me
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>>122159345
At least he has a unique weapon instead of a sword.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvgmfBKogY
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which move is cloud's charge? neutral B? I thought it looked like he had a counter against mac so that'd be down b right?
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>>122161487
That was his down smash on mac
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>>122161397
Good. Yes, kill you.
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>>122161397
>no real ballot results until probably december
>giving up in november
H O P E
O
P
E
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>>122159345

What would his moves be? How would you change it up so that he's as different from the other swordsman as possible while still being kind of a melee type of guy?

I'd like if they gave him that ridiculous mobility and dashing around he seems to have in his games
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>>122161470
>they can't read either
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>>122161397

>always ask why people want shantae
>they always go on about the music and the unique character
>not a single person admits to the fact that it's a half-clothed long-haired female

just admit it, i knew you were like this ever since you picked up peach in melee
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>>122160942
>Who won the ballot?
King K. Rool probably won the popular vote, but I seriously doubt he'd actually make it into the game. In all seriousness, we're more likely to get Impa or Dixie instead.

>Who do you want?
Besides Shantae? I actually had my hopes up for Amaterasu. Or at least get Wolf back in.
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HAHAHAHHAH CLOUD CONFIRMED THE BALLOT WINNER

SUCK IT INDIE FAGS
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>>122161585
just out of curiosity, do you know anything about that artist
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>>122160694
Yo. I'm down for any mode/stage even with items.
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uhh nintendo didnt tell us but cloud is on the eshop right now.... i just bought him
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>>122161597

I wonder what his final smash would be. or rather, it's less of what it would be and more of who it would be - no question it'd be some kind of assist like shulk's smash, right?
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>>122161727
I actually do like the series and characters. For most people that's part of the reason, and it's true, but you can't say the music and moveset shouldn't come first.

Hell, I figure Bolo and other characters could make cameos on her stage, just as backgrounders watching the fight.
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>>122160698
Hello, still looking for games.
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>>122160942
First five are ones I think have a legit chance, and the rest is just wishful thinking.

Other than that... I want Ray 01. Custom Robo could use the exposure.
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>>122161457
True.

It's not even used as a sword in-series because there's no sharp end - he bashes with the back or the teeth, but there's no cutting or slicing.

They'd pretty much make it a sword for Smash, though.

>>122161597
>I'd like if they gave him that ridiculous mobility and dashing around he seems to have in his games
They could do a weak but fast or glass canon kinda deal. Plus, Sora is also a magic user which could add something.

Off the top of my head:

>B
Fire, Blizzard. or some form of Gravity
>Side B
Throws the keyblade towards the opponent, it comes back
>Down B
Thunder, calling down some bolts.
>Up B
2/3 hit combo that launches him upwards. Sora tends to do a lot of air-fighting.

Smash could be Ars Arcanum/Ragnarok/Final Form from KH2/something with the Dream eaters/some kind of move with Roxas
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>>122161727
Shantae is NOT for sexual. Cute only. >>122161786
Know anything about him personally? No. Just that he likes nintendo based on his art.
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>>122161985
Disgusting. Simon is the only good choice.
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>>122161985

>with yet another swordsman revealed there is literally negative chance for isaac to make it in now

feels fucking bad. feels really fucking bad. i mean if ivan were the main character of that story maybe he'd make it in, he has a unique weapon i guess
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>>122162096
>Disgusting
Nigger you did not just call Isaac disgusting.
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>>122162128
Don't worry, they'll make Cloud as vanilla a swordsman as possible like all his appearances since FF7 despite being the one character in the game best suited to magic.
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>>122160003
I should
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>>122162093

>keyblade comes back to him

fuck now i want sora in the game with a mechanic of throwing his keyblade around like an idiot but he can teleport it back to him for comboes
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>Cloud's sword is literally as big as Ike
Why would anyone play Ike now? Cloud stole his role as the man with the big sword
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>>122162128
Mail me a glass of your tears please.
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>>122162256
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>>122162242
He throws it a lot in his own games, so he could certainly do so. Even if it just ended up being the boomerang item, but permanent and with a lower damage cap or something.
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>>122162093

>Sora the floatiest character in the entire game, even floatier than peach, absolutely dominates the air game

I want to see it.
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>>122161597
Neutral: Blizzard with some added knockback if done at the end of his standard combo
Side: Strike Raid
Up:Master Form's Ariel Dodge
Down:Reflect or Magnet
FS: Ragnarok
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>>122162197
>>122162280
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Looking for games.

NNID: Falafei
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>>122162094
that's ICS. He draws weird art where characters transform into different things, frequently in sexual situations. He stopped drawing a lot of transformation art after somebody drew his mom turning into a balloon or a ball or something and getting fucked
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>>122162504
Only reason I wouldn't use reflect is to make him different from all the counter-users in-game. Magnet might be cool, though. Or Gravity.

>>122162410
Maybe not super floaty, but jumpy, with a good air game. They could balance it by giving him a bit more limited use on-stage.
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>>122162256

Ganondorf has the best sword desu
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>>122158691
Splatoon but that's included in the bundle
The Wonderful 101
Bayonetta 2
Xenoblade Chronicles X will be out by Christmas
Pikmin 3
Super Mario Maker
Super Mario 3D World
Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate
to name some
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>always wanted to play anime swordsman
>settled on shulk
>cloud looks like a more fun version of shulk

well

i'll miss monado canceling but I won't miss laggy everything
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>>122161832
Ok, let me host
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>>122162530
>He stopped drawing a lot of transformation art after somebody drew his mom turning into a balloon or a ball or something and getting fucked
king of keks
>>122162646
Not really his sword, someone left it and it kinda just stuck with him.
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Post ending in 9 decides main. I don't want to be equally terrible with everyone anymore.
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>>122162530

How do you even know this shit? You into that kind of thing? Anon?
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>>122162902
Cloud
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>>122162530

source?
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>>122158536
Ayy lmao, Shrek when?
Fuck, it's real. Cool.
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>tfw Amano or Nomura designs the picture for Cloud's entry into the series.

The way all the other artists have done it for their characters when they get in
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>>122162902
Sol Badguy
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>>122162923
Wouldn't mind him. Gotta wait.
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>>122162872

Nothing more badass than using the sword that was meant to kill you.
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>>122162902

VISION
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>Cloudx07 playing Mario & Sonic at the Olympics
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>>122162902
Goku
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>>122162913
heard it on /co/ years and years ago. They might know more than me; his stuff was posted on there all the time.
>>122162929
second link on google
http://kdingo.net/champ/pics/main.php
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>>122163025
>using invulnerability cheat armor against a boss easier than upper-level grunts
TIP: walk behind ganondorf. Really hump his ankles. He tries to kick in front of him while rotating only partway around.
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>>122162902

Mario
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>>122163084

I meant the picture of his mom getting fucked

Super Smash Bros general
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>>122163079
Shit, that's actually possible at this point. Sakurai may as well toss in Master Chief at this point.
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>>122163079
>>122163079
>>122163079
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>>122162513
I guess I will ask one more time. Would anyone like to play?
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>>122163158
don't have it, sorry. Ask /co/.
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who 1v1 here?
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>>122162902

while you're waiting for Goku to be released, you should try maining Snake.
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>>122163183
>Wanting Land Master user #4
Nah, bring in Joel from TLOU.
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/ssbg/, this bunny is trying to take my money, please help me.
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>>122163183
>>122163079
I'll main Goku and use exclusively ala Panchito if he gets in. You'll know who I am.
9 decides main. (actually in Smash 4 right now)
>>122163274
Dood
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>>122163229
I'll play..mettatron

>>122163229
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whats more fun, this game or league of legends?
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>>122162530
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>>122163354
KEEP IT REAL
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>>122163354
That rabbit needs a longer snout.
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>>122163354
I'm so glad I don't buy this shit.
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>>122163372

Shelk
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>>122163354
I want that bunny in Smash to replace the punching bag.
It sits there begging you for money and making stupid faces until you punch him across the room.
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I'm getting so impatient that I'm LITERALLY playing Ike right now haha!
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>>122163354

What am I looking at here?
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>>122163406
Definitely this game, unless relying on team mates or numbers is more your thing.
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>>122163648
A real bunny.
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>>122163891
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>>122163891
>akashit etc etc
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>>122163514
>tfw no 9
Oh well, back to Random
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>>122163406
i switched to smash once the 3ds version came out

best choice i have ever made. league is gone down the shitter compared to seasons 2-3
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>>122164010
peppy and slippy should have been in melee desu
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>>122163898
>People are actually this mad Cloud got in
Jesus Christ.
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>>122163898
>99 needed to reach actually nothing
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>Smash broadcast in December
>Datamining showed there was spot for three more characters
>One for Cloud, one for ballot character, one mystery character
>Only other important thing for Nintendo in December is Xenoblade X's release
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>122163372
Shulk
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My votes and reasoning.

Amaterasu:
>Has appeared on two Nintendo titles (one a port, the other a DS sequel)
>would have a completely unique moveset from the rest of the current cast
>original devs have worked with Nintendo, plus Capcom has characters in Smash 4
>fucking badass sun god wolf

Wolf O'Donnell
>was in the previous Smash
>was the best thing about the previous Smash

Shantae
>Shantae

Yooka-Laylee
>opportunity for a unique moveset
>devs have worked with Nintendo before

Krystal
>has potential for a unique moveset with her spear
>game needs more fanservice
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>>122164245
Are there no Shulks here?
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>>122164272
>Yooka-Laylee over Banjo-Kazooie
shit taste
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>>122164298
There's a really shit one and a decent one but he's never here
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>>122164241
Sakurai said "several" for ballot characters so there's obviously more.
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>>122164339
It's not like M$ would allow B-K. Y-L is the next best thing.
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>>122164272
>krystal
>the type of fanservice smash needs
>>>/trash/ desu senpai baka
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>>122164272
>Shantae
>>Shantae
Exactly, there is no reason to put Shantae in Smash. Stop suggesting her.
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>>122164272
>Krystal
>has potential for a unique moveset with her spear
>game needs more fanservice
>Krystal
>Fanservice

Yiff in hell, furfag
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>>122164465
Shantae is an interesting character from a good game. Personally I woulda thought that was implied by "Shantae" but I remember not everyone here has played it.
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>>122164298

I was really set on maining him and got put off by the fucking garbage online connections. It's still like that, right? Even Cloud being announced can't make me buy a Wii U or deal with shitty online.
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>>122164525
>Shantae is an interesting character from a good game.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>122164465
Well my actual reason is because the devs have worked with Nintendo for a long time, and almost all of the Shantae games have been on Nintendo handhelds. Also she's just a popular, memorable and fun character who would have lots of potential to offer something new.

>>122164490
>>122164432
Guys pls. It was a joke.
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>>122164368
>a really shit one
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>>122164578
I don't have issues personally. For Fun though..
Pretty sure it's not as bad anymore. Alright. Goku, Cloud, and Shulk. Get that 9 eventually.
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>Get home from work
>Click on youtube
>Cloud
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>>122164779
>Guys pls. It was a joke.
>"I was just pretending to be retarded"
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Tifa should have won. She has bigger...potential.
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Phoenix Wright cause he's been through the GBA, the DS, the 3DS, and the Wii
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>>122164705
Here's your reminder
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>>122165039
>guy that got bodied by penta
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>>122165145
video?
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>>122164913
I wouldn't mind her showing up as an assist trophy maybe. Having her as a playable character would be kind of pushing it. She's an important and iconic character in Final Fantasy for sure, but Cloud is the more sensible choice, being the game's main protagonist.
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I really like that Cloud is on Smash
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>It's just a trailer
>No explanation on how he's meant to play
>No Release Date or anything

Why
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Why is Zelda such a slut?
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>>122165327
DECEMBER
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>>122165327
>>No explanation on how he's meant to play
literally when have they done this before
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>>122165391
Because she's aeris
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>>122161046
Stop bringing my hopes up anon, we both know it won't happen ;_;
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>>122165327
>>No explanation on how he's meant to play
They never done that though.
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>>122165327
>no explanation
He's a Smash Bros character. He has moves that you press A to use, nearly all of which we were shown, and moves he presses B to use, nearly all of which we were shown. What do you want, a forced playstyle that they straight up tell you how you have to play, LoL style?
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>>122165475
I'm not bringing your hopes up, that's all you. I'm stating that Cloud is what we're getting and Ray is what I want. Not predicting Ray or even a Custom Robo game ever again, I just want them.
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>>122165397
I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG.

YOU CAN'T JUST DROP A BOMBSHELL LIKE THAT AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE PATIENT.

>>122165412
>>122165507
>>122165549
>Who is Ryu
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>>122164415
But aren't they totally okay with it?
https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/584023190692737024
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>>122165826
>>Who is Ryu
They didn't explain anything about him
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Will Leffen finally pick up Smash 4 now that there's a character he resonates with coming?
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Is anyone up for some games
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>>122165951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ5s_HG7Wwg

he already dropped it
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>>122165925
They did though, the showed off how he could use his traditional attack commands, some of his attacks, and even his final smash.
Did you actually see that direct?

They should have explained Cloud's Limit Break at the very least.
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>>122165951
Leffen hates Smash 4. He tried playing FF7, but he couldn't stand the graphics.
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>>122165826
A different character with special mechanics that Cloud obviously does not have?
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>>122166126
I think he doesn't really hate it, but it's not his thing
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watching the entire direct right now. This fire emblem shit is the jewiest announcement since the balfour declaration
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>>122166134
Yeah, because everyone has a Limit Break and Materia.
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>>122166076
They visually explained it. It powers up his smashes and enhances his specials. What do you want, text describing exactly what's happening on the screen? Maybe spoken aloud for blind people?
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kek
https://twitter.com/ShroomedWFX/status/665044415136727040
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>>122166076
Yeah, like they explained shulk's manado
It's not that hard to understand from just playing the character for a few minutes. At least Ryu had something that had never been in smash.
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>>122166076
they only fucking did that because he has special inputs and because all his animations are from previous games and they were just pointing that out

They don't need to explain what Cloud's final smash does when you can clearly see what it does just by looking at it. Are you stupid?
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>>122166217
I've seen him talk about it on stream. The way he talks about it makes it seem like he hates it, mostly because it's not Melee.
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>>122166330
Holy shit, at least learn the basics of each smash game.
I've never played 64 but I at least know some of the basic combos for some characters.
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>>122166330
>Shulk just changes colors and I have no idea wtf is happening

Silly Doc man why are you playing games you know nothing about
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>>122166496
I don't see why he should if he's never even going to play the game except for laughs. I mean he's a Melee player and it was a choice between whether he joined Smash 4 or Street Fighter, obviously he doesn't give a shit about Sm4sh.

>>122166514
>Doc

I wish, it's genderfluid downthrow ninja now.
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>>122166302
But is it one of his specials or is it a new mechanic entirely?

>>122166357
It looks like Cloud has some differences too, like I've said, his Limit Break.

>>122166372
I don't care if they explain the final smash, I already assume that's how it's going to work.

I just want some clarification.

Honesly I'm more confused on how he will play instead of how I was with Ryu.
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>>122166673
It's a special. If it's still really hard to understand, play Wii Fit Trainer I guess?
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>>122166302
How about how I fill the Limit Break bar up? Do I just press Down-B and boom? Is it like Mac's Power meter? I don't know they didn't explain it.
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>>122166673
holy shit I think we found an actual retard
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>>122166454
Who knows if he really feels that strongly about it, he gets more attention if he says he hates it, though.
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>>122166661
Wow, he doesn't give a shit about Sm4sh. What a COOL guy.
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>>122166673
It's a special you charge to fill up the bar
you then can use one special move to use it up
if you do down b again to use it while it's charged you do finishing touch, a move which looks like a dsmash.

look up the recent broadcasts at clashtournaments, chibo just did a great job at figuring everything out.
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Reminds me of Psi Offense Up, honestly.
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>>122166267

From the looks of it, Cloud's B moves consist of Braver, and Climhazzard. I imagine the 4th B move is a charge that fills the limit gauge. When full the other B moves work differently/powered up (Climhazzard rose much higher, and his other moves seemed to hit much harder)

I imagine the summoning/spell animations are just a taunt as he didn't actually use any magic himself, just summons that appeared on the midgard stage.
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>>122166661
>>122166804
He also said he'd prefer both smash games to be at EVO, but I guess people do that for games they don't care about.
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>>122166903
Shroomed said that? I guess he probably considers Smash 4 part of his community even if it's something he doesn't play.
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>>122166878
Also Cross Slash
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Last call to throw a vote for the logo and music of the /ssbg/ soccer team. I'll close the poll as soon as I wake up tomorrow and change stuff accordingly.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17zw9U51pHPq_DxTHoDmtiY55xVo0aMTWHVoO62U8myk/viewform?c=0&w=1
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>>122166878

*and Blade Beam. One had the tornado as well which could be Finishing Touch, though more physically based anyway.
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>>122166673
here's an analysis detailing all his moves and how limit works

twi (no space) tch.tv/clashtournaments/v/25521165
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>>122166903
He's probably just trying to be neutral.
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>>122166994
pewpewu likes smash 4 and his influence made shroomed consider smash 4 an ok game
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>>122166742
And HOW do you know this?


>>122166849
>>122166878
>>122167023

Thanks, I guess I will.

Although I do kinda find it bullshit if it was a special, it would have made more sense for it to just charge overtime like it does in the game, and that would also leave room for an actual forth move, like some kind of Materia or Summon.
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>>122163391
Good games, its been fun.
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>>122167128
Friendly reminder that most top level Melee and Smash 4 players respect the other game, even if they do not play it competitively, the majority of people who shit talk one or the other come from the lower level players, or even worse, full time spectators.
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from what it looks like Cloud's special is..

N Special - Cross Slash
Side Special - Blade Beam
Down Special - Braver
Up Special - Climhazzard?
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>>122167330
Good games Chazo! It was a lot of fun, Roy is such a fun character.
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inb4 Cloud is a middle weight even though his sword is canonically heavy as fuck
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>>122158882
I fully approve of JOHN CENA being in Smash.
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>>122167353
look at >>122167023
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>open youtube
>Recommended for you:
>King Koon Klown etika shouting and hollering over smash news

like fucking clockwork
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>>122167334
While that's true I feel like, even with top players it's:
Melee: Sm4sh is okay, but we're better
Sm4sh: Melee is okay, but it's too old
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>>122167334
High level players need to keep mum on what they think about Smash 4 and like you said, respect the community because if they don't they could lose fans that happen to fans of both games. Low level Melee players and players on a local level can act as smug as they want about Smash 4 because they don't have a fanbase. Finally spectators don't know what the fuck they're talking about in regards to both Melee AND Smash 4, but unfortunately these dregs of the community are growing in number as the game becomes more of an esport.
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>>122167551
I don't get the latter with Sm4sh top players, I get a rather large inferiority complex from Sm4sh top players, though. Particularly from ZeRo.
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>>122167551
>>122167652
this is just hating on sm4sh players for no reason, no actual smart individual that prefers smash 4 will call melee "too old", nor a reason for it to not be relevant anymore.

there's retards on both sides.
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anyone wants to pm?
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>>122167162
They showed him using a special move that charged his meter. Are you saying it might be a special controlled by a taunt button or something? They don't do that.
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>Armada tweets about Melee HD before Direct
>doesn't happen
>"Oh well Nintendo sucks anyways :p"

Lel, why are you even tweeting about this shit then? Melee HD is completely unnecessary anyways especially considering 20XX exists.
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>>122167490
"middleweight" is heavy as fuck in smash 4
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>>122167490
He actually looks pretty floaty to me.
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>>122167490
Cloud will be a heavy middleweight, no way he'll be heavy weight.
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>>122167023
I think his Bair turns Could around
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>>122167551

I feel like the "Tr4sh" mindset is pretty prevalent even among high level Melee players. But I don't feel like the "melee is too old" mindset is shared by anyone but scrub shitters. Almost all if not all top Smash 4 players are or were competent Melee players in their day, they just found that Brawl (all smash 4 top players are Brawl vets for the time being) and Smash 4 catered to their skillsets more so they went for that.

I will agree at the top that mutual respect is shared though. Mango is basically the only top Melee player that never really acknowledges the smash 4 scene.
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>>122167992
so you're saying he's like Ike? the lightest heavyweight?
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>>122167985
>weight class having anything to do with fall speed
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>>122168065
Get those edits going.
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>>122168085
Well, he actally floats.
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>>122168065
Lighter than Ike, probably. He seems faster and floatier
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>>122168047
like marth/lucina?
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>>122168158
yeah
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>>122168126
I saw this shit like 10 times.
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Are Nario and Gunblade the cutest couple in Smash?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksm3NgBaVMM
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>>122168184
he looks really fun honestly
smash 4 is looking like a game that will be video game classic with all this polish and attention to detail. Specially since I doubt a smash 5 will come out in any time in the next 8 -10 years honestly
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>>122168126
>>122168249
man i remember this movie being pretty good, i watched it a ton years ago
is it actually good or was that just my kid self being stupid?
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