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Dueling Network General #1979
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First for Yugioh is gonna fucking suck for the next year
Thanks for keeping the OP meme-free 2 threads in a row
>>121950427
For poor people.
nth for qlis are somewhat playable still
>playing ygopro
>opponent playing BA
>opponent gets great mills
>make a salty comment
>end up topdecking decking vanity's and fiendish while sitting on Tsukiomi and Tellarknight Diamond
>he surrendered and I feel like a huge bully
I'M SORRY FOR BEING A SALTY JERK!!
>opponent's starts shit talking when he gets out Denko vs my Korean trap.dek
>mfw I get rid of Denko by activating a Trap with the new Xyz
I'm picking this up ASAP when they hit TCG.
>tfw mecha pilots will never be good
>tfw they'll never get any additional cards beyond the initial ten so they're stuck this way forever
How's this Garbage?
>>121950578
As long as they don't fuck up the Monarch Structure I'll be good.
>>121950837
You. I like you.
Where is Vorcia...................
>>121950837
Better, but try three Swamp and two Owl.
Reminder about the poll
http://goo gl/forms/X1d0zxGVRl
>>121951117
trip on Vorcia
>>121951194
What if I take out Denko to side it instead, and run fusion conscription or fusion reserve instead?
>>121951229
The fuck is this? Leads to no where.
>>121951350
That would be best. Try Fusion Conscription to see how you like it.
>>121951386
Put a period where the space is.
G-guys. Kozmonoids. Yes or no?
>>121951350
Why not drop a bear and that weird fusion tech and put fusion conscription in. You're going to most likely have a bear or toypot in hand just by odds so having 3 bears is kind of overkill. I'd say drop chain but you're using instant fusion
>>121951775
Bear + Wings is the life and breath of the deck, YOU, NEVER, NEVER screw with the quantities of Bear and Toy Pot other than maxing them
>>121951726
Why? that seems pointless for both decks
>>121951894
hmmm....ok. I'd argue that but that's fine, I still think it's overkill. Well >>121951350
Definitely drop that fusion tech and maybe a sheep for 2 fusion conscription
xth for strongest there is
Some people are actually running DOG fighter. Unbelievable, that's the WORST kozmo card and shouldn't even be considered in a Kozmo deck.
Real talk, what the point of vendors who mislead with base prices and jack up shipping prices when every good website has price+shipping lowest first?
>>121952302
>Not Lightsword.
At least DOG is an Allure target.
>Use an Artifact deck to fuck around
>Go up against a guy who's using Majespectres
>He's continuously telling me how fucked I am
>Get mad, surrender so I don't have to deal with that
>He messages me one client chat and keeps going
I know the community's pretty damn autistic, but fuck that's bad.
>>121952780
>surrendering
you should shit talk back harder.
>>121952302
Fighter puts massive pressure on your opponent
>>121952898
Tried, but the guy just went "umad?" and just kept going.
>>121952780
DN autists are some of the worst fuckers on the planet especially if they lose in a way they thought was unfair or since yugioh is the only thing in their life that makes them feel special they feel the need to use anonymity to hide behind their inane and autistic ramblings, just get him banned or play the game harder and use :^) faces. Ygo has the amazing feature of muting the fuckers so you don't have to hear them bitch and complain or speak in tongues.
>tfw some of Raidraptor's best cards aren't on DN
Fuck it. Frightfurs will never be a good deck until we get better support. I give up.
>>121952302
You're fucking retarded dude
>>121952994
It's not worth running even at a 1 though when you already have 2 non targetting powerhouses with floating.
>>121953413
Shut up you dumb newfag.
>>121953391
Good argument.
I am at a loss for words right now because you called me retarded. Absolutely burnt to a crisp.
DOG fighter is terrible and shouldn't even be a 1 in a good Kozmo deck
:^)
>Use Crush Card on Monarchs
>Hit 5 cards in hand and two on field
>He mills Zombie Monarch
>Rips my ass open next turn
Why did they ruin Crush Card?
>>121951894
Do you run Bear and Wings at 3?
>>121953529
THERE HE IS
>>121953537
You didn't even have an argument, you just said it was shit
>>121953537
Better get used to dog fighter since the death star is pretty much guaranteed to be a 3 kozmo tribute like towers and the dog fighter can really help with that.
Its fine at 1 right now.
do you consider yang zing broken?
>>121953537
>>121953661
Shut up, newfag. You are not welcome here.
>>121953594
Wings at 3 brick and usually resolving the effect of Wings 2 times means you have already won. Toy Vendor and Bear are ran at 3 because by spamming Toy Vendor with Galaxy Cyclone or the Imp Chains you break even
Stop replying to tripfags you retards.
>>121953191
You play and move on.
>>121953695
Source -_- no source.
>>121953670
You can easily stop dog fighter with chain or breakthrough or veiler or-even better- Silent honor to grab him and kill the shite token which removes the float effect, making him utterly useless especially when sliprider offers more attack. Adding even 1 dog fighter removes one slot that could be used for the other good cards.
>>121953727
Nope. They're balanced and thus shit.
>>121953291
They're fine as they are not. Pretty consistent actually. If they got a few another really nice fusion and possibly a searcher then they would be set.
>>121954013
Who the fuck is running breakthrough and veiler against Kozmos?
Who the FUCK is playing Dogfighter in attack?
Seriously shut the fuck up
>>121954169
Why don't you shadow duel him if you're so tough?
>>121954169
>seriously saying people to run Dog Fighter
>>121954239
Tripfags don't shadow duel lad. Your meme is nonsense.
>>121954013
Shut up, newfag.
>>121954169
Are you serious? Not every deck is Kozmo you dumbass. I hope you run dog fighter against a majespector deck and watch as they furrify your asshole with tornado cause that shit will be funny.
>>121953832
just filter them
>>121954424
smdh f.am
>>121954453
I can still respond to you like this ;^)
I'm always with you silly.
>>121954453
"everone look at me, LALALALA, I'M NOT HEARING YOU!!!"
If you're not going to read people talking about YGO why the fuck are you even on this thread?
>>121954596
good retort.
Harvard tier debating skills.
Hosting shadow duel.
So are rampage and infinity making CyDra relevant again or are they still trash and people are just going to find different ways to make infinity?
>>121954632
>>121954653
>tripfags get assblasted every time someone points out that they are getting filtered
delicious
>>121954751
You're not Srubbity
>>121954013
>You can stop Dog Fighter with Veiler
Are you actually retarded?
>san jose kozmo build actually caught on
Jesus christ
>>121954808
I'm not even a tripfag, it's fucking funny how your thread is so empty, why do you even come to this place?
You have a serious case of autism
>>121955003
trip on Vorcia
>>121955003
>a-autism
lovin this meme
>>121954424
>>121954741
>>121954976
Shut up, newfag.
>>121955003
Shut up, newfag. You are on the wrong website.
>>121954453
That doesn't help because we have a lot of newfags who actually reply to tripfags. Soon you will have to filter every post.
>>121955102
>behaving like a kid sticking his hands up his ears even though you're most likely a smelly fat-ass on his 30's
>somehow not autism
>>121954948
I assume you're infering that I meant by the opponent SP but regardless it can still be stopped you dumbass if you decide to summon in response to an effect on the opponent turn
also
>fiendish
>breakthrough
>>121955146
>That doesn't help because we have a lot of newfags who actually reply to tripfags.
>what is recursive filtering?
>>121954808
I personally don't care.
I just wonder what you actually contribute to this thread other than your asinine comments to tripfriends.
>>121954778
It's much easier to make infinity by adding galaxy soldier to Kozmos.
OCG Raidraptors also got a rank-up that lets them summon infinity if they have an r4 xyz in grave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_hx6f-KulQ&feature=youtu.be Haven't seen the whole video but for those who are curious, Konami decided to do an opening of the Yugi Box thing
>>121955234
I retract that. I am a dumbass and didn't read the cards.
>>121955537
Nothing new here. We all know you are retarded. Now fuck off.
>>121955430
I'm getting pretty sick of archetype extra deck monsters being splashable enough to seemlessly fit into off archetype types.
That said, that's pretty cool. Is there any reason to run cydra at all in this meta? I thought chimeratech fortress dragon could be an interesting choice since the meta is shifting heavily towards kozmos and you could use their destroyer as material.
>>121955640
Still got fiendish and breakthrough AND silent honor
Dog fighter is worthless. Get over it. and if you aren't the same guy then i'll beat you to it.
>shut up newfag
>>121955840
Shut up, newfag. You are not welcome here.
>>121955840
>Still got fiendish and breakthrough AND silent honor
AKA 3 cards that nobody plays anymore or would keep in against kozmos
>>121955445
>that token Yugi
I need that
Could a rankup evilswarm clownblade list like the one that won that OCG tourny work in TCG?
you dont have shock master or chain but the rest of the list seems easily adaptable
>>121956032
Oh how naive you are.
Probably why you think DOG fighter is actually good but ok, live in that naivety.
what do you even do against EMEm if they get the first turn?
>>121957095
Good argument.
I am at a loss for words right now because you called me naive. Absolutely burnt to a crisp.
:^)
>>121957095
Shut up, newfag.
>>121957252
Wait for them to cum
ghost ogre
droll & lock
veiler
>>121957341
You're saying NO ONE absolutely NO ONE runs fiendish,breakthrough or silent honor. Which is an absolute false unsubstantiated claim. Plenty of decks still run them, majespectors run at least breakthrough skill and everything else runs one or the other and always silent honor. The fact that dog fighter can be targeted makes him a waste of deck space since it can be removed by any spot removal card like Castel and can be negated by any other card that negs effects. Even still you continue to try to make a claim that DOG fighter is good but you can't actually provide a logical reason WHY. WHY? Why should anyone waste a spot for a monster that can be bounced,negged,banished, or turned against you when there are 2 high power beatsticks with nontargetting that get the job done proper. Please enlighten me. Or are you going to say no deck runs castel either?
>>121950427
When was the last time your favorite deck was competitive, /dng/ ?
>>121955445
>Shows Eye of Timaeus
>lose my shit
>"If you got one of these lying around, you could use it on Dark Paladin."
>one of these lying around
>one of these
>lying around
>EYE OF TIMAEUS
Fuck you, Konami
>make a powerful archetype
>one of the only decent archetypes from the GX era
>introduce an offshoot archetype
>make it totally incompatible with its predecessor
>make it significantly smaller and worse than its predecessor
>make the character in the anime that plays it suffer from heart failure for playing it
What was even the goal with cyberdarks?
>veiler doesn't work on Majespecter or Kozmo
>Maxx "c" not worth against Monarch or Majespecter
I'm conflicted.
>>121957746
Nobody is saying you should run Fighter over Forerunner or Destroyer, retard. Please read the conversation again before spouting your bullshit
>>121955445
>all ultra Exodia pieces
Muh dik
>stop by walmart to pick up some groceries
>grab a pack of crossed souls
>open it up to see this
Well what now?
>>121958395
Ok.
Good argument again. DOG fighter is trash and I'll duel you to prove that with something other than kozmo if you would like, that way you can understand why it's better to not even bother with that hot garbage.
>>121958476
>Unlimited
Might as well throw it in the trash
>>121958536
and let me guess, you're gonna run triple breakthrough and fiendish and when you happen to hit dogfighter you'll go "haha I told you it was le trash xDDDD"
>>121958312
Maxx "C" is needed because Magicians are better than Kozmo and Monarchs.
>>121957746
The fact is, the Kozmo mirror match will be one of the most important in the format. DOG Fighter is really good in that, due to the ship clash, and the fact that if it survives a single one of your opponent's turns, they basically lose.
>b-but fiendish and breakthrough!
No-one plays Fiendish and Breakthrough anymore; they're awful in the current and upcoming format. Kozmo and Majespecters are unaffected by them, and Magicians, Pepe, and Monarchs just don't give a shit about them.
>>121958106
Were Ojamas ever competitive?
>>121958740
how is Dogfighter going to help on the mirror match when Wickedwitch is a thing?
>>121958476
>walmart
>yugioh
They still carry those over where you're at?
Here in East Bay Cali they stopped carrying them because of all the stealing that would occur.
Hell, back at my first locals I attended, they stopped hosting YGO players because of how according to the owner we had the worst player base.
>>121958740
>kozmo mirror one of the most important matches in the format
>Dog fighter is good against other kozmo
>breakthrough and fiendish good against other kozmo
If the kozmo mirror is truly this important to the format you're going to see people siding dogfighter, and siding breakthrough for opponents who also sided dog fighter, and the two will fluctuate in usage as people stop using dogfighter because people use break through and people drop breakthrough because they no longer encounter dogfighters.
>>121958740
I prefer Magicians to Majespecter, but they didn't feel as good as I thought they would be. Maybe I was using them poorly. Have you tried them with the latest Dracoslayers?
>>121958740
when eminem hits the format it'll be worthless but it's not here yet and there are still decks out there that run them. To say no deck runs either is blatant lying. Kozmo mirror will be the same as when Nekroz would mirror, whoever has the best hand wins and fighter dies to destroyer due to lol target, coupled with the fact even Kozmo has castel and the ability to summon him makes dog fighter a worthless card
>>121958703
I'm not using my kozmos I'll use something else that I've worked on to see how it fairs but I guarantee that breakthrough will be in it.
>>121958967
We had a lot of thefts in the places Yugioh would go on too. Like guys would try and reach over the counter and take the cards in the display case while another distracted the owner. Made them turn a pretty decent sized locals into a strict FGC and smash place.
>>121959054
Just shut up already, newfag.
Will Blue-Eyes.dek ever be competitive?
>>121958931
>I've never played a Kozmo mirror: the post
>>121959194
tell me how does he help.
>>121959054
Kozmo does not easily get out Castel. And even the fact that they need to focus Dark Destroyer on an opponent's card that floats is kind of a big deal; usually with Dark Destroyer, you want to destroy your own cards so you can make enormous pushes.
In addition, Fiendish and Breakthrough were fine in the previous meta. But this format, a lot of decks have anti-targeting protection.
>>121959194
>I'll pretend to know all about Kozmo when it's clear that I don't: the post
Planar Rift
Choose 1 attacking monster. Shuffle that monster back into its owners deck.
why doesnt this exist yet, d. prison hasnt been played in forever
Hosting
Post recent hauls. The Leonidas and Vortex are for my friend, I'm pretty interested to see how his D/D/Ds go, they look pretty fun.
>>121959343
In the mirror if you can only afford to SS one then you'll do Destroyer and bury fighter. then take out whatever comes next since fighter can only grab slip or below. Only furries and kozmo have the target protection that doesn't mean though that other decks won't run it.
>>121959593
recent hauls. The Leonidas and Vortex are for my friend, I'm pretty interested to see how his D/D/Ds go, they look pretty fun.
>>121959632
Shut up, newfag. You are not welcome here.
>>121959119
There were a total 4 locals near me.
The one in Alameda had the owner ban the 15+ YGO player base since he assumed they were the ones stealing, turns out the younger player base were just as bad because they stole from eachother all the time. So he outright banned it.
The locals in San Leandro ran for about a year and a half and then got shut down and dismissed by the owner as "going through rennovations" until I asked him why he closed it. He said that after installing cameras when he noticed a lot of his YGO merch missing, his customers were stealing when he wasn't in the store.
Then the one in Berkeley refuses to sell singles on the basis that it only promotes people attempting to steal.
The one in Newark has been doing alright, but because the current employees seem pretty tight with the customers and keep an eye on everything.
I'm still waiting until faglord tells me how the fuck does Dog Fighter help on the mirror match when it's just more damage on board and shit as simple as Wickedwitch easily counters it.
>2015
>genex isn't viable
>>121959697
I know right! You tell him!!
>>121959819
that's because they were given no good ways to plus and swarm the field when they're a fucking synchro deck. Not helped by the fact that the only good searcher allowed to make a level 5 synchro... but the fucking tuner didn't even allow off-theme monsters and there were no level 5 Genex synchros.
>YGO players are thieves
why am I not surprised?
>>121959582
No you're not
>>121959778
It puts pressure on the board stronger than Wickedwitch and it's best for when you're crashing ships when you can get a dogfighter in defense and they can only get a sliprider
>cannot attack without xyz materials
>detach a material to destroy S/T
>can only be activated during the opponent's turn if blue layer is a material (doesn't have to be the one you discard however)
>once per turn can add a mecha pilot from the hand or field as a material
>WATER machine
>atk 1800 def 2800
>R3
So...it's shit right?
Reminder that Kozmemes are just the new Fire Fists and that you shouldn't play them.
What if Sylvans could Pendulum too?
Sylvan Loscal
Pendulum Monster
LV1 200ATK 1800DEF Scale 2
Pend eff:
If you control only "Sylvan" cards in your Pendulum zones, Plant-type monsters you control gain 200ATK and 200DEF for every different Attribute you control.
You can only Pendulum Summon Plant-type monsters. This effect cannot be negated.
Monster eff:
You can tribute this card; excavate the top card of your deck, and if it is a Plant-type monster, send it to the graveyard. Otherwise, put it on the bottom of the deck in any order.
If this card is excavated from the deck and sent to the graveyard: you can send this card to your Extra Deck, face-up.
You can only use each effect of "Sylvan Loscal" once per turn.
Sylvan Hiscal
Pendulum Monster
LV6 2000ATK 0DEF Scale 6
Pend eff:
If you control only "Sylvan" cards in your Pendulum zones, this card's Scale is 9.
You can only Pendulum Summon Plant-type monsters. This effect cannot be negated.
Monster eff:
You can tribute this card; excavate the top 3 cards of your deck, and if there are any Plant-type monsters among them, send them to the graveyard. Put the remainder on the bottom of the deck in any order.
If this card is excavated from the deck and sent to the graveyard: you can send this card to your Extra Deck, face-up.
You can only use each effect of "Sylvan Hiscal" once per turn.
>>121960368
how bad is hoban going to bitch about monarchs
actually how bad is everyone going to bitch about monarchs
>>121960634
Fuck off back to pojo, retard.
>>121960735
all depends on how hard KoA decide to stop the magi menace
Isn't Kozmo just a glorified Melodious deck?
>>121960735
It depends how much time we have between memenarchs and PePe, and if we get full powered PePe or not.
>>121960991
Kozmemes are just Gladiator Beasts 2.0.
>>121961062
Fuck off back to pojo you dumb faggot.
>>121961126
Fuck off newfag
>>121961193
>calling others newfag for no reason
Pojo please leave.
>>121960359
2800 is REALLY good for an R4, it's not going to be attacking anyway, and you can use its back row removal to clear an easy path for liger to do some damage while also activating the discard effects of the mecha pilots.
>>121961380
>R4
What
I play Fire Fist irl, what cards can I side against Kozmo and Makespecter?
Denko Sekka in Fluffals really does hurt. I've tried it and any time I have it its just clogging up my hand.
>love the art and simplicity of Kozmos
>deck is 900 cheeseburgers
Konami please make a fucking box set
>>121961504
That's just a typo man I obviously meant R3 it's in the post AND the picture.
>>121961656
the BA one would come b4 that and bring over fiend rhino and beatrice
>>121961621
Kozmo
Light imprisoning mirror
Imperial iron wall
Rivalry of warlord
Majespecter
Zombie world and as an extension terraforming
Mask of restrict
Poisonous winds?
Trap stun/royal decree
>>121961906
Thanks dude. Now I just need stuff I can main. Time Space Trap Hole looks like it could work.
>>121961906
Rivalry of Warlords is shit, they can just banish a psychic and summon Sliprider, then pop it
Light Imprisoning Mirror is shit too, they can still use Wickedwitch and Dark Destroyer
>>121962183
Time Space Trap Hole is easily dodged by activating the pay lp effects then banishing the monsters, since the last thing that happened was the pay lp effects you are unable to activate trap holes, all are shit vs Kozmos except for Chaos Trap Hole.
>>121962316
Chaos Trap Hole? Sweet. Now I don' t have to get Time Space. I had a set but someone stole it at locals.
>>121962316
You flip rivalry during standby when they don't have any monsters
The iffy one I put was zombie world, since it means spirits restriction doesn't let you attack, although it's a small price to play to make it so Majespectersorry can't stun shit
>>121962650
Also the only way to summon slip rider is If you have a legal target in hand ,like a psychic. If they don't have farm girl into one of the other witches they can't summon the machines.
>>121960359
All the super quantum xyzs are hurt by the fact they start with only one material. You're going to summon dolphin, have to detach blue, and then dolphin is useless until you attach another blue.
It wouldn't be so bad if red allowed monsters to keep their effects when he summons them from the grave. Otherwise you could summon dolphin, add red layer to him, discard blue for an ST removal, discard red for an ST removal, revive blue, and then search another quantum. (IIRC that the mechs can use their detach affect more than once per turn, I'd have to read it again).
>>121962650
>>121962790
flipping Rivalry on the SP doesn't do shit. And dude, it's not any hard to get psychics on hand with Kozmotown and psychics on field with Emergency Teleport
>>121962857
That would be too good though. Besides you could always just revive blue with red layer eff. E tele out another blue blue eff to search overlay for another r3
>>121962650
Newfag...
>>121963102
There was no reason to call him a newfag. He is right about rivalry.
Reminder to not play trashcards
>>121963048
Not to mention that you can E-tele out a blue and then search an Alphon rather than a second blue for the xyz, since each "blue layer" effect can only be used once per turn.
>>121963013
They have to have the farm girl on field and the psychic in had along with the slip rider on hand. I don't know about you but a 3 card combo to get rid of 1 card seems like a good trade for me. But I forgot this is /dng/, where you will always have your outs
>>121963102
Of please tell me why, I need more dumb screenshots
Does anyone else here miss cameraclops?
>>121963230
SQMP edit when?
>>121963262
>a 3 card combo to get rid of 1 card seems like a good trade
>>121963262
Farmgirl searches for Sliprider. Is not hard to get your combo pieces when your deck is redundant as fuck.
Also getting Dark Destroyer on field, then blowing it up allows you to get Sliprider on field.
Spellbook Structure with a replacement for Judgement when?
>>121963403
Nice anime girl image, sure showed me.
BTW Ruri is best girl
>>121963321
I do.
>>121963346
just don't use that image since is the low quality one I saved, the images is supposed to be as bright as this one
I summon cameraclops in attack mode! Go clops beam!
Should I main Maxx "C"?
>>121963321
We all do.
>>121963262
>3 card combo to get rid of 1 card seems like a good trade for me
>3 CARDS FOR ONE CARD SEEMS LIKE A GOOD TRADE TO ME
Please for the love of good, don't ever EVER become a business man
>>121963892
You're not Hippity
>>121963930
Please tell me how forcing them to have a 3 card combo to get rid of my 1 card is a bad, go on.
>>121963321
>>121963660
>>121963849
>>121963892
>>121963939
Thanks guys <3
Reminded that Kozmo is the new Fire Fist.
>>121963996
what fucking point about Farmgirl searching for shit can't you fucking understand? It's not a 3 cards combo, it's a 2 cards combo that requires you to have any of the other fucking psychics you also run on the deck, fuccboi. There's a reason Rivalry of Warlords is not used as a side against Kozmos.
>special summon it from the graveyard to the field, but its effects cannot be activated
>but its effects cannot be activated
>>121964240
>My farmgirl will always get the search
Who said I was going to let you attack over my monsters fucboi?
>>121964240
And how is Farmgirl going to punch over a Fire Fist without either Honest or Meme Moon Shield?
Xth for time to remember what makes a good duelist and time to re-read the art of war.
Also what can I do or anyone do to update the pastebin?
Hosting TCG
>>121955445
>The way he manhandles those cards
aaaaaaAAAAA
lightly played
>>121964358
Dark Hole, Raigeki, Emergency Teleport her on battle phase after attacking with any Witch, Honest on hand, there are a shit ton of ways available. But please, try to use Rivalry of Warlods and find yourself stomped by Sliprider.
>>121964357
I wasn't asking, ;)
>>121964403
>Not writing a 10 page paper on your favorite philosopher
Sun Tzu won't be pleased by you just reading his works, you have to live them.
What if they revised the rules so that you had to announce you're going to tribute a monster before you did it? (that it starts a chain)
>>121964509
>let friend play scrub blue eyes deck I have
>no extra sleeves
>original SDK BEWD has a bit of bubbling from being fucking old
>he man handles the shit out of the cards
>after about 10 games it's peeled off about 1/3
Guess I gotta get sleeves and a new blue eyes, toss that one in a binder.
>>121964513
>Running Dark Hole or Raigeki in a Kozmeme and Memespecter format
>I-I'll just open Witch AND E-Tele AND another ship or psychic
spotted the retard
>>121964513
>I have all these cards at my disposal and the only card my opponent has is Rivalry
k
>>121964574
holy shit, he's literally a reddit enlightened knight incarnated
SQMP will be /ok/. Not trash and not good. Just ok.
>>121964268
Super quantum's engine would be FAR too consistent and powerful if red allowed the restored pilots to use their effects, even with the pilots having OPTs.
Also, red prevents other red layers (rather than "except this card") from being revived too, which I feel is an equally low blow considering blue can recycle herself entirely.
Super Quantums HAVE to be inconsistent, slow and come with limited resources because it's the only thing that keeps Magnus in check by making him significantly difficult to summon. Otherwise you'd be looking at Towers Turbo with an even stronger boss monster and no one needs that.
>>121964737
Dark Hole is ran to trigger your own ships and then search for more ships with Farmgirl or get them back with Strawman, fucking shitter.
Raigeki is used to stomp on petdeck shitters like you that use Fire Fist decks on a format of unable to target floating monsters.
>This whole conversation
Good thing I never bother asking for DNG's deckbuilding advice.
>>121964852
Depends on green making Magnus consistent and less difficult to summon or not, who they've deliberately held off revealing.
>>121965008
Why doesn't YGO have joke sets like MtG? Is it because autists would try to use them in tournaments?
>>121964894
>I need to run Raigeki to beat petdecks even though I'm already playing Kozmemes
spotted the retard
>>121965117
Every set released during the GX era was a joke set.
>>121965143
more like having Raigeki allows you to get Farmgirl through and OTK even easier, faglord
>>121964669
Chain Omega ;)
>>121958106
X Sabers can still hold up..... sorta I think.
>>121965354
Don't lie to yourself, fergul
>Not reaching Wizard Status with your Hermit
Baka Sempais
>>121965393
NOOOOOOO
The only people that don't want Stratos unbanned are salty butthurt plebs who are still sore after getting wrecked by a single HERO OTK a long time ago.
This is a fact.
>inb4 "b-buh it's degenerate!!!"
You're a degenerate, check yourself.
>>121965847
Stratos is balanced just as D R A G O N S
UNBAN THEM
>>121965847
It's fucking crazy that people look at the state the game is in today, see [CDI set 3~4 Counter Traps Pass ;^) ] and think that Stratos still deserves to be on the list.
>>121965847
and here's an example
>>121966107
Stratos is still a poorly designed card even if other shit like Ariadne are also poorly designed.
>>121966107
>This card is balanced because the most broken deck of the format can do this!
Nice "logic" retard, let's but BLS Envoy of Beginning to 3 because Notice stops him right?
>>121966228
>Stratos is still a poorly designed card even if other shit like Ariadne are also poorly designed.
There are only two kinds of cards in Yugioh: Poorly designed cards, and cards nobody plays.
>>121966221
That guy is completely correct though, cards like Malicious and Destiny Draw never deserved to be on the banlist but got hit solely due to Stratos.
Going to play this build at my locals tomorrow.
Any advice you guys could give me?
>>121966315
Exactly.
Broken or Bust.
>>121966441
Just give up on that corpse of a deck.
>>121966441
>Deep Sea Diva
I see that you struggle to build a deck when there's nothing to net deck huh
>>121966256
That's a piss poor example. BLS hardly deserves to be on the list either. Like you said there is a flood of negation and new Trap Hole and shit that tear BLS a new one. No one would bitch if he was at 2 or 3.
>>121966228
>Poorly designed
What the fuck is poor in the design?
It's not OPT? How many times can you reliably pull it off more than twice?
It blows up S/T? You have to control another HERO and again, how many times will that ever happen? You don't run defenses? Are you one of the babies that cries when JD touches him? Are you feeling better that the spooky roach man is gone now? I bet you even like the Construct ban. Fucking pathetic.
there's still two unaccounted for SPWR codes adjacent to Mega Sword Magnaslayer that are either generic cards or SQMP trap cards.
>>121966551
Deep Sea Diva is a 1 card Herald of Arc Light, so I thought it would be pretty decent.
>>121966491
I'll never give up on my cosplayers.
>>121966643
If Stratos got errata'd to only search OPT, or they went DMoC style on him and only had him add the searched card during EP, he could come back.
nice Ad hominems though.
>>121966801
>all this butthurt
Where did Stratos touch you, anon?
>>121966441
Speedroid build is better IMO.
>>121966801
>wanting erratas
Baka desu sempai
>>121966801
>nice Ad hominems though
Thank you. I've been practicing. Yeah, I wouldn't mind a OPT search. Making it End Phase would blow though because you want to be able to summon, search and then fuse. Slow searching is fun for nobody.
>>121966668
Even if quantums weren't clearly going to be a 10 card archetype that debut in a booster pack that never gets new support again like psyframes,
>traps
>>121966801
Can't Konami just ban Shadow Mist, limited Stratos for a format, then ban him and unlimited SM again? If they really want to adhere to Kazuki's request.
Fiber Jar should go to 1, as it offers rogue decks a slow but powerful response to kozmos and majespecters.
You cannot dispute this.
>>121966936
I was trying to build it with minimal memes that make it less consistent, but even trying to build it as pure as possible still makes me brick hard sometimes.
>>121967134
OCG has the right idea tho, 1 startos and 1 shadow mist
>>121966441
What the fuck is BEUD doing in the deck?
>>121966801
>OPT
how many times do you think you could use this effect in a turn anyway?
>>121967148
>Kozmo
They would just draw the field and Get back their Farm Girl and start over
>Majespectors
You just reset all their spells and traps and they have monsters in the Extra to pull out when the draw their scales.
Fucking lol. I would love to see Fiber back for a list. Sixth Sense month was hilarious.
>>121967246
>COTH
>Oasis
A lot actually.
>>121967246
You can use AHL and search for another Stratos by summoning Stratos, but I find it's much better to justs summon Shadow Mist, go Dark Law, set 4, pass :^)
>>121967246
I've done it 3 times a turn back when HERO BEAT was still a thing.
>>121967163
>Pure as possible
>Less than half the deck is even Nekroz cards.
I think you have too much shit going on in that build.
>>121967201
BEUD and Star Eater are for Kaleidoscope. I could use Ultimaya Tzolkin instead, but I don't think I'll ever end up summoning it unless some really strange shit happens.
how do we go from this
>>121967163
The thing is, DSD is limited, she might be unlimited next format though.
Speedroid "build" is only running 3 Terrortop and 1 Red-Eyed Dice, maybe 1 Taketomborg nor 1 Double Yoyo so Terrortop has other targets.
Then you abuse the fuck out of Archlight with 3 InFus into Norden.
>>121967391
Whoa there buddy. Nobody is advocating him at more than 1 copy.
>>121967502
To this?
>>121967567
see
>>121966107
>and think that Stratos still deserves to be on the list.
Limited cards are on the list too, along with semi
>be a dumb little kid
>spent forever waiting for Joey to fuse Red eyes with Kaiba's blue eyes
>it never happened
It seemed like the most logical and obvious shit in the world when I was a kid.
>>121967502
to this?
>>121967567
The last time I played Heroes was when I was playing Tag Force Special with the banlist cleared, sorry about that.
>>121967683
>A gay innuendo was the most obvious shit when I was a kid
Have you come out yet anon?
>>121967464
27 cards fuel the Nekroz engine, 3 are upstarts. I guess I could take out a MST for a Trish, but the deck has so many hits its hard to fill a deck completely with cards that support the engine.
>>121967519
That does sound pretty dank, I'll have to give it a try.
>>121967683
maybe in 2016
>>121967679
To clarify, I meant the Forbidden List. 3 Stratos would just be plain nutty and HEROs would be tier again. You know Konami won't let that happen.
>>121967683
Purple-eyes Gray Dragon sounds like a terrible name, to be fair
Not that it stopped Interplanetarypurplythorny Dragon but well, you know, those were different times.
