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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: https://www.dota2.com/685/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/

Ancient Thread: >>121822376
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fuck sheever, gross whore
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>>121855927
1st for dota sucks
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>>121855889
>Watching badIm@s
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>>121855927
I like this image.

Post your favourite images from your /d2g/ folder.
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superior highlander
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What the duck blowing Swedes the fuck out
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>>121856083
bout to drop the hottest progrock album of the 80's
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what are we watching??
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>>121856031
I watched cinderlla girls. Didn't enjoy it. Don't think I'll enjoy ll either desu.
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>>121856189
Progrock and gay porn both have alot of guys wanking to themself but they are not the same thing
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>>121855179
all CIS players seem to have god tier gfs
i dont know how they do it
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Secret are incapable of being defeated
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>>121856498
duh
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>>121856387
All slav women are beautiful, no matter what. At least before they go бaбyшкa
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Chipenko is undefeated post TI5 on LAN
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eg ehome mineski alliance
vg vega C9 newbeey
cdec vp OG fnatic
secret lgd newbee dignitas
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man ive never watched this moon duck shit before but sheever is getting BTFO right now and its pretty funny
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>>121856675
>dignitas
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>tfw no crab hero
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>>121856752
slacks is such a small minded retard desu
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>>121856894
snibbedi snab pasta where??
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>>121856968
who ever said the majors isnt the place to out noobs is right
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is sir reddit slacks a social justice warrior?
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>>121856083
love it
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>>121857108
obviously
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why did icefrog nerf diffusal 2?
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I don't care about skill I just like to listen to female voice. Somebody with huge tits preferably.
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>implying EG won't win the Major
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>maut talking about things he needs to improve
boy I got a whole list for you
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>>121857307
>they have not played anything in months
>thinking they will be able to do anything
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>>121857307
...But they won't.
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>>121857387
he is better than most of the people in that show
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>one more game before I end for tonight
>what could possibly go wrong
>go offlane
>shit on the enemies safelane
>our roamer comes and we completely dumpster the safelane and everyone who tried to gank us
>everyone else in my team is balling out of control too
Everything went better than expected.
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>>121857535
I can't get over his defected vocal chords m8
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>>121857108
He once went in drag and used a voice changer to play pubs like a girl and understand "how dota players treat women". So yeah, he is.
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>>121857032
New hero idea: Kel'Snippity the Demon Crab

Scuttle: With the drawback of an increased turn rate, Kel'Snippity gains increased movement speed while violently pinching each Hero he comes across. Deals increased damage if he pinches from behind. Lasts 6 seconds.

Demon Forged Shell: PASSIVE. Whenever Kel'Snippity sustains extreme damage from either a magical or physical attack, he gains immunity from that type of damage for a brief duration.

Burrow: Kel'Snippity burrows underneath the ground, gaining HP regen but reducing movement speed by 50%. If he attacks out of Burrow, he will latch onto the enemy Hero, reducing their movement speed and dealing damage until Kel'Snippity is attacked a number of times (similar to Weaver's bugs).

Pinch: Kel'Snippity snaps at the enemy unit with his enchanted claw, dealing a moderate ammount of Pure damage and pinching a random buff from the unit. Cannot steal Auras. The Pinch effect does not work against magic immune targets.
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>there are redditors in this thread RIGHT NOW that think that Evil Geniuses will NOT win the Frankfurt Major
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>>121856616
you just described every person in the lower class
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>>121857632
I never read this pasta I just like imagining a snibbedi snab hero in the game
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>>121857585
>slacks was pretending to be retarded the whole time
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>>121857397
>>121857532
Here's the difference between EG and Secret my yuropoor friends. EG steps the fuck up when there's millions of dollars on the line and wins these Major tournaments unlike notorious yuroshit choker Clement "Puppey" Ivanov.
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>>121857839
>Here's the difference between EG and Secret
yeah, more Indians. Nice.
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>>121857839
so will they step up in frankfurt or just sandbag again?
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Whats a good hero to help temporarily forget that you're in love?
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>>121858112
mangina
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>>121858112
GLORIOUS INVOKATIONS
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>>121857839
>winning anything without aui2000
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>>121858112
DOOOOOOOM
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What does the E in E-blade stand for?
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>>121857307
>>121857676
>>121857839
same dumbass fucking fag
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>>121858281
E-sports duh
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>Moonducktv
>Bunch of unlikeable Americans and Draskyl
why would anyone watch this garbage?
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>>121858296
Two of those are me, yes.

I made a post and then replied to the two people who responded to my post. Is that a problem?
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>>121858281
Emergency.
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>>121857839
>2/5 players in this team are american
Explain this NATARDS
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>sing playing the dogshit that is fo4
://///
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>>121858281
Eternal
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>>121858281
Eyyyyy this item is retarded
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>>121858440
4/5 of them were born and raised in North America.
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This dude asked tips from Puppey how to beat some dude who shits in streets at chess lmao I wonder who won
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You see this guy farming alone far up in a lane close to your team with no signs of backup.

What do you do?
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>>121858482
ITS HAPPENING
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>actionslacks killed ehug
10 thousand keks
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>>121858440
>wisconsin
>Oregon
>Indiana
>Canada isnt America
post your country, so i can accurately suffix it with kek
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Need some help on why I fucked up as PA, gulag. I was 3/4s of the way done my AC when AM got butterfly (didn't see any components of it in his inventory all game). What did I do wrong? Was my item build ok for the most part besides the lack of a MKB?
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Kekleon
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who could that be?
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>>121857108
yes
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HOLY FUCK GUYS THE EHOME LOGO HAS THE LETTERS E AND H IN THEM I ONLY JUST SAW THIS

WAAAAÀAAAAAHHHH?
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>>121858854
NaVi spelt backwards is Ivan
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>>121858854
holy shit it does I never noticed that either
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>>121858806
Ogre Magi
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>sing in charge of character creation

Just
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>>121858728
>am LH =580
>pa LH =235
kek m8
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still NO item that reduces magic resist
wtf icefrog
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>>121859087
can you name your character? if he doesn't name him ritsu he's not our guy desu
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>>121859087
go to /v/
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>ehug
W-where are they now, senpai?
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>>121858728
you built ac on pa vs a team with shit physical damage

you also can't farm for shit
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>>121859203
Veil of shitcord?

Because that's exactly what it does
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>>121859296
Same place as Kompass gaming. Forgotten and probably don't exist
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Why did EE expose ritsu when EE kept saying how good ritsu was?
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you have 10 seconds to explain why you are not playing fallout 4 right now
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>>121859385
it does not
>increases the magic damage enemies take.
>increases the magic damage enemies take.
>increases the magic damage enemies take.
>increases the magic damage enemies take.
>increases the magic damage enemies take.

dumb fuck
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OG or Liquid

which team is better?
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>>121859495
EE hates k-on
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>>121859175
>>121859305
Well, yeah. I didn't want to get a Battlefury and try to have a farm war with an Anti-Mage. Plus I had a DS and Morphling who wanted some farm too but yeah I think I needed to crack 300~ cs probably.

What would've been better instead of an AC? SnY? Skadi? Save for Abyssal?
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>>121858728
AC was a bad choice, you should go mkb on PA if there's a carry that's even possibly going butterfly on the enemy team. MKB is really good on PA even without considering the true strike.

Can't say much more without seeing the match, but AM has a bazillion gpm and they have all their t2 towers, so your team should've tried to get an early advantage with WL, DS and SD before antifun finishes farming and buys everything.
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>>121859565
EE also hates based eva (he rated 1/10 on MAL)
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>>121859539
>Reduces most heroes' magic resistance down to 6.25%, if they do not have any other source of magic resistance.
>Reduces Meepo's magic resistance down to 18.75% and Visage's magic resistance down to -12.5%, if they do not have any other source of magic resistance.

I hope you were just trolling kid.
*flashes katana*
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>>121859721
Magic WeaknessNot blocked by Spell Immunity. Not blocked by Linken's Sphere. Cannot be dispelled. Play
Ability Affects
Target Area Enemies
Emits a weakening blast that increases the magic damage enemies take. Lasts 16 seconds.
Cast Range: 1000
Radius: 600
Magic Resistance Reduction: 25%
Duration: 16
Cooldown 20 Mana 50


only retards will dispute this
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tfw ranked anxiety
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>>121859585
see
>>121859680

vs AM I would recommend a more offensive playstyle, ganking and teamfighting as much as possible. Ideally you should have taken fights, then taken towers before AM could get his 3rd item.
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already dead
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>>121859585
Bfury could've actually been a decent choice not just because of the farm, but because AM basically always goes manta, and the cleave would help clearing up the mirror images.
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>>121859923
>gives black character 1 int
my sides
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>>121859565
He literally doesn't though. Look at the posters.
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>>121859829
*sheathes katana*

yeah, you trolling kid.
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>>121858806
OD senpai
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>>121858806
F-free mana..?
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>>121858806
Viable on every hero
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DO people even play this shit game anymore?

It's clear the game is dying, especially the esports scene.
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>>121860646
Nice stats kid
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>>121860646
Don't you have a Blizzard games general to enjoy your confirmation bias in?
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reminder listening to eurobneat increases mmr and gpm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv0iUKb80C8
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>>121858806
>0 (zero) damage items other than a moonshard
Tony
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SingSing is streaming Fallout 4
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>>121861275
http://oddshot.tv/shot/sing-sing-201511102168234
nice next gen game
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>>121859961
do you like mom as a farming and farming item?

bf is only good if you get it fast enough but still wastes the gold if you could have gotten another early fighting and fighting item like hotd or mom ->bkb
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alright im out guys
since theres only 3 people here brwosing this dead thread of a dead dying shit game keep the samefagging up and try to pretend that someone is interested in dota
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>>121861814
Dead post.
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>>121861803
used to be really good, nerfs made it not quite as good

personally I prefer hotd, but this game you could have gotten mom if you got bkb second
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>>121858806
literally core on OD
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>>121861776
amazing
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>>121862486
not really the OP of that pa game

just chimed in because i was confused arguing with from the forbidden site saying

similar to that of PA in that he has a lot of early game potential that gets wasted with BF being built because its a farming item.
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>>121862486
Whenever I get HoTD on a farming hero I always remember to stack my camps a few seconds too late every minute, and my micro is far too shit to actually use a centaur or something in a team fight, fuck it
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>>121862664
Battlefury can double as a fighting item on PA in some situlations. It's kind of the same kind of thing as daedalus on Sven, when you crit everything blows up.

It's useful against image heroes or meepo or if you have enigma or something.
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>Lose 8 games in a row due to fucktarded teammates
>Win 8 games in a row due to fucktarded enemies

Forced 50/50 doesn't exist my ass
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>Le epic shadow guy of free ults hasn't been gutted yet

Fucking when
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>>121863378
Dude, he only work in Radiant
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6.86 fucking when?
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>>121863378
>one stun
>he dies

Yeah real OP hero please nerf
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>>121863378
who are you even talking about
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>SIX (6)
>MONTHS
>LOCK
AYYY LMAO
I AM EXPECTING LITERALY 0 INVITES FOR REGULAR QUALIFIER
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>>121863654
Le denying man of 975 damage on a 10 second cd
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who /int/ here
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>>121863773
But shadowfiend doesn't have FREE ults
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>>121863761
Good

No team should get free invites anyway
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>>121863890
I am was talking about NA qualifiers (the ones after the open qualifiers).
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>last pick jungle ursa starts taking lane farm at 15 minutes instead of jungling or ancients
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>tfw team mates are worse than me
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>tfw you'll never be as based as austin
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what difficulty is sing playing on?
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>singsing gets gank by /dsg/
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>>121864209
Ogre Magi
Earthshaker
Faceless Void
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So dead. lol, dota is done.
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I thought this game was supposed to be goty or something

doesn't look at different from fallout 3
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dazzul skill order?
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>>121864896
Are you in the right general?
Or is this just an ebig shitpost?
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>>121864485
he said he was playing on the highest difficulty
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>>121864941
poison, stats rush deso
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>>121864941
Max Q first, rest doesn't matter.
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Rate my Omniknight build senpai
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>>121864941
232324233stats1111
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/d2g/s finest
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how do we make sven meta?
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>People feed so hard game is lost by 15 minutes
>I get the LP for refusing to sit through 45 minutes of being farmed because of some third world street rat

I thought white people were privileged
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>Sing has only been playing for an hour
>already has Power Armor
dotards?
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nice dead game you got there dotards
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>>121865662
Major starts Friday, friend.
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>>121865650
>expecting game made in 2015 to pose any challenge
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>>121863069
seems fair

what about getting hotd and bfury at the same time

you know its viable
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>the """"""""""""""""""""""""""/d2g/""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" masters ticket
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>>121865650
they give it to you at the start basically lmao
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>>121865707
>implying the majors are not going to flop and be the nail in the coffin for this shit game
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>>121865493
Aghs makes him immune to slows and reduce stun duration by 75% while his ultimate is up.
Boom meta.
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>>121865707
Oh boy can't wait for all the same teams to pick all the same heroes AGAIN
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>>121865832
get bkb
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>4 days from the start of the Major
>still don't know who is in what group

epic stuff ESL
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>>121865771
what a retard
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>>121865939
heres a you since your so retarded
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>>121865832
holy shit that sounds stupidly OP
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>>121865983
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should i stay up all night and play fallout in like 2 hours d2g? i mean im supposed to go in the office tomorrow but i could totally just call out sick or something
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>>121866230
Stop getting caught in /v/eddit hype trains
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anyone else bought a Hyeonmu courier?
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>ywn marry austin
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Dota 2 moving from being published/distributed by Nexon to being directly published by Valve through Steam
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?entry_id=16576

RIP DOTA 2 IN KOREA
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>>121866350
son ive been playing fallout since before you were born, its not fake hype, i legit cant wait for this game
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>>121859967
Why does EE have to like shit anime?
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>>121866635
only reason why i bought a Hyeonmu courier.
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>>121866635
What does this mean for Nexon servers exclusive items?
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>no determination-based underground hero who can win without killing anyone
Uh, dotards?
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>>121866140
literally who
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Is MoM real on Sven? Should I get blink, and if yes, when?

When should I get aghs on Zeus?
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>>121867284
MoM SnY AC 2 Moon Shards is the best Sven build
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fuk navi noob bot go play mario i alwys bet navi fuk i losse 400$ dnt play dota fuk noob low clasee player
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>>121867284
>MoM of madness on sben
Yes
>Blink y/n
Yes, ASAP if your team is cheap on stuns, later if you're the one in charge of autistically clicking creeps to acquire items
>Zoosk agh
After euls refresher, if your team already has a pic related
If not, get one of these.
You ARE buying euls on zeus, right Anon?
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Wyvern
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>>121866995
determination?

sounds like broodmother

>pushing hero with webs/tunnels that make her invis
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>tfw you abandon 3 games in a row
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>>121867740
badsand the badearthshaker?
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>>121867284
Treads > MoM for farming/blink for fighting > bkb

>>121867917
dont you mean good magnus?
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i am barnyyy AMA
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>>121868090
can you go back to reddit?
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>>121858806

that better not be a CM because it's fucking viable
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>singsing streaming
>he's punching a 2 headed cow to death
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aui is a literal god
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>>121868316
>top 2 NA
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>>121868640
he's not wrong
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I've always wanted to be Tresdin's squire. I always enjoy fantasizing about entering a tent with her after a long battle and slowly removing her armor, starting at the helmet and making my way down to her boots. At that point she sits down on a stool and commands me to kneel down and remove them one at a time. "Squire, must you pitch another tent so soon?" she says to me. I try to cover it up out of embarrassment, but she kicks my hands away. "You haven't finished yet." I don't understand because I had already removed her armor, but after she gives me a look I realize that she wants me to remove her shoes as well. I take off her shoes and reveal her gorgeous feet, surprisingly soft despite her being a strong warrior, and extremely sweaty. "Lick the sweat off my feet, squire," she commands me. I happily endulge until my raging boner begins to hurt from pressing so hard against my trousers. "Alright, squire, stand up and remove your clothes." I do so while she does the same. Then, all of a sudden, I feel an inescapable desire to stand still. "FIGHT ME" she screams as she pushes me to the ground and gets on top of me. It's only now that I notice she's holding Aghanim's Scepter, and I understand that she won't stop until one of us cums. Her technique gets more and more intense until I am unable to hold back. I cum inside her pussy with the force of a hundred megacreeps. She gets off of me, and as I lay there quivering in pleasure she gets dressed and begins to chuckle. "Only 9 inches? Pathetic."
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Watch out for Steven "Eosin" Cheng
The public enemy of Dota 2 #2
Known facts:

[x] Midget
[x] Tryhard
[x] Stacker
[x] Racist
[x] Overweight
[x] Gook
[x] Dumpstered by fakkaliv in /vg/ masters
[x] Communist
[x] Artstyle hater
[x] Doesn't post first for #kaidota
[x] Directly responsible for Silencer casting last word and curse on you every 14 seconds
[x] Bad player and captain
[x] Known homosexual
[x] Virgin
[x] K-Pop spammer
[x] Redditor
[x] Is trying to kill E-Sports
[x] Posting 'dead thread dead game'
[x] Smells bad
[x] Direct cause of the development of the .H264 10-bit profile
[x] Supports Pendragon
[x] Likes bad music
[x] Has Athlete's Foot despite never exercising in his life
[x] Attempted to take down Adblock
[x] Tried to add nipples to Naga Siren
[x] "That"
[x] Jewish ancestry
[x] Hates America
[x] Caused Gents to get a day job
[x] Alcoholic
[x] Samefagger
[x] Marijuana addict + marijuana needle sharer
[x] Bad teeth
[x] Israeli apologist
[x] Attempted to assassinate Draskyl
[x] Attempted to shave Gabens beard
[x] Successfully assassinated Barnyyy and KingRaven
[x] Hindered intergalactic relations
[x] Responsible for seizure of Bitgamer by the Feds
[x] Watches and enjoys The Big Bang Theory
[x] Abuser of animals
[x] Possible jaywalker
[x] Copyright violater
[x] Borderline mentally retarded
[x] His nipples resemble misshapen pepperoni
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Should be more tier 3 boots

>Serene boots
>tranquils + ghost scepter
>activating repairs broken boots
>gives ghost form and extra regen for 4 seconds
>25s cd
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>Gulag is dead as fuck
>1 week since last CLQ video
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shh... ppd is sleeping
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who /retiredfromdota2/ here? It has been a week now...
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>>121869417
>only one week

Haven't played since August. I only watch esports and only come to these threads for esports shitposting
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Hey d2g,a still rather new player here,quick question
Do meld,Desolator,Amplify Damage and weave minus armor stack?
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>>121869417
>playing dota
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post oyur favourite

mid
carry
support
jungler

heroes
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>>121869878
>Being a literal streamkek
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>>121869995
techies
AM
techies
Enigma
You forgot offlane: techies
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>>121869995
lich
lich
lich
lich
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TA
PA
CM
NP
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>>121869839
yes, but past a certain point -armor doesn't do as much. I suggest you go look at the dota 2 wiki article on armor, it has graphs and other useful info.
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>>121864271
for a guy who served in the armed forces that is pretty pathetic
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When will a non-literalwho be streaming?
chat going so fast no one will notice I'ma straight white male
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>>121870901
he did admin desu senpai
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>>121869995
Ogre Magi
Eartshaker
Faceless Void
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>>121869995
ET
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/d2g/ /trash/ thread when
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>>121869995
Sorry I only do the int/strength/agi thing.
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You chimped it last time, actually name it this time
0 names
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>>121857632
badnyx and badweaver at the same time
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>>121871294
yeah im not naming it that. 6 decides
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show me your moves
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>play only support in my usual stack
>started expanding out into solo offlane/jungle
>having actual fun playing offlane

Holy shit why is DS so fun to play?
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>>121871294
yeah Im not naming it that. 4 decides
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http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?entry_id=16576

>Doturd is literally dead in Korea

LEL

The only places this shit game is relevant are Russia and Peru. :)
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>>121871437
First Spectre game; no idea what the fuck I was doing.
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>>121871294
DUAL WIELD
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>>121871294
yea im not naming it that. 2 decides
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>>121871556
dont build a vanguard in the future. drums if you need something early homie
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>>121870075
>unironically playing post 6.81 dota
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>>121871437
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>>121871294
add for free immortals
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>>121871294
Lewd Assassin
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>>121871294
Yeah I'm not naming it that, dubs decides.
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Who /peru/ here?
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>>121871294
yeah im not naming it that 9 decides
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>still no loli hero

its like valve are trying to piss off its customers
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>>121871635
Was blindly following a build. Also wasn't in that order; I built diffusal > vanguard > radiance > heart
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>Want to try TB offlane
>Every single team spergs out and rages, some chucklefuck duo lanes with me and ruins the entire point of it.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE SO FUN IF SOMEONE WOULD LET ME DO IT.
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>>121871767
wow those apes actually got visas?
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>>121859585
always go battlefury
i dont understand these shitters
Battle fury is core in every farming non-illusion agi melee carry

Am
Void
Pa
Ember

ffs its the best item in the game and sometimes i see builds with maelstrom? what?

bf > anything
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>>121871294
giant futa dicks
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>>121871850
nah man try

>drums
>radiance
>manta
>bfly/heart
>heart/bf
>situational
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>>121871294
30$ chimp suit
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>>121871294
i pay for untangible things
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>>121872001
nah nigga I didn't say my build was good, just clarifying. Anyway I'll try that next time I play her, thanks
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>>121872024
re-rolling this one
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>>121871294
xNarutoxSasuke98
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what went wrong
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>>121872024
reroll
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>>121871850
>>121872001
drums are a noob trap on spectre (and 90% of the hero pool)
they're ery rarely worth it unless you're against heroes with some hard to avoid but minor slows, like veno

urn and aquila on spectre is the way to go
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>>121871294

ppd's pa arcana
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>>121871294
Timberthaw Ripsaw
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>>121872253
>two moonshoes on wr
>building the nodamage c u c k knife on wr instead of compounding the damage
>spookstick on wr even though she's based on right clicks
>Picking noobick the nostuns
>picking badpudge the badanyone
>feeding girlcock the purple
>sub-700 gpm on your hardest garry
A whole lot went wrong, family fum famolu.
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>first game with 3.7k players on both teams "very high"
>fucking stomp them
easiest game of my life familia
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>>121872327
drums is only good on Ember and warlock
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>>121872327
you want it for early fighting and tankyness ideal you just rush the radiance but you rarely can do that and still have your tier 1 towers up these days. once you get the radiance you pretty much press r and win team fights
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