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Pandering edition.

>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started

Now in open beta.

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>>121584691
>Magmar wings
>Vetruvian arm
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First time Magmar

First Gauntlet

Taking bets
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>>121586947
Too many high mana units
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>>121586947
>whistling blade
>ever

Also, why does the in-game sprite look so... beefy, compared to the art?
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>Lose to a fucking Mechaz0r Songhai because I don't draw any of my dispels
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>>121586564
>Magmar invented wings
>Vetruvian invented prosthetic arms
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>>121586564
how is it surprising at all that a faction might use magmar's wing design in their armor as either a fuck you or extra intimidation

if anything it makes me like the design more

would prefer it with a helmet or even a paperbag though desu
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>>121591740
this

she's completely covered in elaborate, bulky warcraft-style armor, except for the head and it looks fucking silly

you'd think someone with a scarred as fuck face would wear a helmet
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>>121584691
I think she is disgustingly ugly and uninspired.

Whatever.
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>>121592690
shitlord
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Anyone else playing in the next tournament?

Signup ends in like 20 minutes.
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>>121590461
the artwork is questionable but the sprite art is great and makes up for it. too bad the main artwork wont improve oh well
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Servers dead?
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>>121597759
Just like the game.
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Does stacking Arclye Regalias prevent 4 damage once, or 2 damage twice?
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>tfw stuck at rank 14-12
I just want to reach gold so I can drop this game for the rest of the month
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>>121603271
You should aim for diamond at least, anon

10-5 was surprisingly easy for me, I did it in 1 night and I'm playing Vanar
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>>121603271
I keep getting one win from gold then falling back to rank 12. My shitty noob deck just isn't going to cut it.
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>>121590461
>Talking shit about Whistling Blade
>in Gauntlet, the only place where it's good

Ok
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Game is hard

If anyone wants dick list I'll post the rest

>>121608429
There's a whistling blade in it :^)
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>Songay empties his hand to burst me
>spend all my mana on heals next turn
>2 cards he drew were the exact lethal
This isn't fun.
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Does Vanar have the most satisfying wombo-combos in the game?

>Jax into Razorback
>Arctic Displacer into Hearth-sister into Spirit of the Wild
>Glacial Elemental into the walls
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Well, this is awkward
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>>121610671
Sand Burrower
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>>121610671
Serpenti, Frenzy is underrated
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>>121610890
>>121610973
I went Burrower, felt it suited my curve best. Ended up getting some of the absolute worst rares this game has to offer, and 1 more Ironcliffe
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Does the game have really shitty performance since the last update for anyone else?
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>>121611215
They broke their servers.
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>>121611340
I mean the actual performance of the game
feels like the game is running at half the normal FPS or something
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>>121611505
Turn off the bloom then. It's a new addition or something, check the settings.
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>>121611603
It's turned all the way down
for some reason it's a slider instead of yes/no
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Just won a Gauntlet ticket. Can I keep it for next time it's open or do I have to use it now?
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AЙЙЙ ЛMAOOOOO
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>>121612590
You can wait.
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what do i get from gauntlet if i shit the bed and only win 3-4 times?
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How the literal fuck does the "in front of " mechanic work? I try to the right and left of a unit and it works almost randomly from game to game. Is it reliant on my starting side?
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>>121616830
Any spell would do, it also dies when counterattacked.
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>>121617340
Yes. Look at the direction your general is facing, that is ALWAYS the "front of" direction. The same is true for Backstab
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>>121617340
>Is it reliant on my starting side?
yes, same with backstab
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>>121617614
I just realized it's my minion. I have no idea how I got it.
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>songhai in gauntlet
Seriously, they will need to rework this class. It's fucking solitaire in both ladder and gauntlet. No mater your draws, this fucker is always in control.
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>>121617910
Songhai has a card that turns your minion into a Pando
>>121618005
Songhai Gauntlet is russian roulette, if you get terrible cards you get boned
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>>121617910
It's a spell.
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>>121618431
>>121618368

Oh, I really need to pay more attention to my matches
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>>121618005
You haven't even reached Diamond yet. You don't even know about the worst in this game.
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>>121618732
I'm rank 8, almost there.
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Can you drop down a division if you get repeatedly shat on?
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>>121618841
Nope.
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How to fix this game: make units only capable of deploying in front of them. There, positioning now matters.
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You didn't lie, Magmar really is free wins.
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>>121620169
That sentence doesn't make any sense.
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>>121620398
>3 Earth Sphere
>Chaos Elemental
>Komodo Charger
Good lord anon, what happened?
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>>121620696
Bloodshard golem is pretty shit as well.
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>>121620696
I'm sorry, maybe I picked bad or there was nothing better. I can't remember.
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>>121618732
What is the worst deck at high ranks?
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>>121620696
ayyy
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Are lionar tanky decks expensive? I want to run a solid block of healthy guys to the other guy and beat him up.

What is the best control class?
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Gauntlet, it just works
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>>121623196
Post deck.
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How do I stop being memekilled by Songay?
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>>121623350
Needs more inner focus but its fun
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>>121623445
Have someone protect your general's back. Use provoke sometimes. It's really draw reliant and faction specific. What are you playing?
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>>121623445
Have a buttbuddy at your back, hope he draws bad. Playing against songay is more about what he draws not so much what you do, which makes them a chore to play against.
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>>121623553
How does wind stopper work?
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>>121623659
>>121623871
Janky Control Abyssian. I find a lot of my spells end up being dead because they won't summon anything until they can wombo combo me.
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>this fucker had an elder in arena
Jesus.
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>>121623984
As Abyssian, just run2 healing mystics, that 4/4 healbitch and maybe 1-2 rejuvenation 4/4 knights. You also have that 1 mana spell that heals you and damages the opponent. I'm pretty sure burn abyssian with a healing module would work against rush songays.
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>>121624638
I have a feeling I'm really bad at deck building in this game. I need a deeper card pool too.
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>Vent vs Vent
>He's got me completely locked down, fatal next turn
>I use star's fury, not because I can put out the damage but just a final 'Fuck you'
>He concedes

y-you too
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>>121623942
Enemies can freely move past it, but generals and ranged units have to attack it before anything else
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They can't attack anything else while he's on the board? Or can they move around it like provoke?
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First time playing Gauntlet, who do I pick?
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>>121623984
As a songai player, what you need to do is basically kill anything that they drop. This is hard to do sometimes, but if you allow one little fucker to stay there, he's going to get buffed to oblivion and weck your shit. You can't give that ninja fucker a single breath, you have to be up on him and dodging the backstab at the same time. My minions are honestly pretty shit, they all have 3 life except stronk punch wizard, abuse this.
If he drops a lantern fox and it's still alive next turn, consider yourself dead. Sometimes, if he gets the RNG gods by his side, he can kill you with them in the turn that they are dropped.
And if you want easy climbing, get lyonar. It's almost impossible to lose against songhai as a lyonar, and those fuckers are everywhere.
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>sarlac
>2 shadow novas
>that wraithling buff guy
Jesus, after 6 wins you keep playing faggots with legendaries on their decks.
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>>121625674
>opponent plays a vorpal, got no answer for it >send out a well played and push escape to concede
>he concedes before I can do so
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>>121626117
Just can't attack anything. It's not a provoke. It's just a weid card, badly explained too because you asume that it's going to provoke.
>>121625520
Post deck.
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>>121626117
Unlike Provoke, you can freely move while it's on the board. But if he's within range, your general has to attack him first
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>>121626394
Yeah, legendaries are bullshit in arena. This isn't hearthstone when less than 1/4 of legendaries are game breakingly OP.
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I think I'm just going to quit before the official release. This game basically lost most people interested by now and only super invested dudes who spent hundreds will remain. I will be playing Hearthstone if you need me, a game that is marginally more enjoyable and strategic.
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>>121627275
I'm thinking of doing the same thing. I don't even remember the last time I had an equal match.
It's either getting clubbed by people with legendaries out the ass, or clubbing people with shitty decks that don't do anything.
The game is just too dead to keep playing.
Half the matches are against same people over and over again.
New people quit when they get stomped at rank 20 by assholes who refuse to move up to have fun.
I want to keep playing to keep the game alive but it just isn't happening anymore.
Even these generals are more and more dead every day.
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Holy shit, this is it guys. 1 win away from the grand prize.
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>>121628415
glglgl
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>People who dc when they see you are about to win.
How much of a sore loser can you be?
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>tfw you assemble mechaz0r in gauntlet
AW YISS
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Is Sonhai a good beginner class?
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>>121631436
Screenshot or it didn't happen.
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>Get no legos in Gauntlet
>Face some Abyss cunt who gets both Jax and Reaver
>Still manage to win
Based Lyonar with no Martyrdoms
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>>121632354
Has the cheapest deck to make it to gold. Gets boring to play quickly though
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CAN YOU DISPEL CREEP TILES?
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Never built such a shitty gauntlet deck before in my life.

help.
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>>121633084
Yes
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>>121633362
ancient

the 2/2s are easily nuked by lyonar and magmar anyway so you might as well use all those walls and little shits plus the beast 7/7
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Dust or not?
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>>121633645
thanks.

another tough choice. I find sworn avenger is only ever really good as a first draw but maybe you guys think differently.
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>>121634045
Avenger is probably best.
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>>121633925
It's alright, can save you in a pickle
>>121634045
Avenger is really underwhelming. Boundless Courage is amazing, and Spirit of the Wild is strong, but situational
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I'm a noob and I can't decide what to go for here.
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>>121634875
I'd go with nova, too many nukes for wraiths or gloom to shine in gauntlet.
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>elder
This shit's fucking free. 9 wins minimum.
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>2 elders
SWEET BABY JESUS
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>>121637418
I'm so fucking jealous, this game is just all rng, fuck you.
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>Be songgai
>play against abyssian
>all that he's doing is staying in the corner, taunting and stalling for shadow nova with the million removals that they have
If you are reading this fucker I like your style.
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>3 earth spheres and 1 knight for maximum healstall
>5 pieces for mechazor
>2 elders
>rest is decent enough
BETS
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>>121630265
Makes perfect sense to me, polite even: why would they stay and make me go through the motions if the math is all right there on the board? If your health in damage is all within one move away from you on the board and you don't concede sometimes I just move everything up and wait for them to concede
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>>121637418
Stall like a fucker and collect wins
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>When you draft a shit and you know it's going to be a bad run

I was happy with 5-3 honestly, deck was awful
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>tfw got a legg
Is this good?
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>>121639413
I don't like it, but that's me.
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How exactly do eggs work? When do they hatch? I'm trying to figure out just how good Chrysalis Burst is.
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>3 Magmar is a row
>3 wins in a row

Ez Gauntlet
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Poor guy surrendered instantly after playing Ash Mephyt.
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>>121640770
They hatch at the end of the magmar's turn.
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>>121639413
I've seen it used with provoke strats.
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Literally what beats all the wind runner faggots in arena? They just tuerle up with the 3/3 infinite wraithbitch and 1 dmg 1 heal slut.
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>>121639413
I've found it very useful, but I might be biased because I've unpacked 4 of them and felt obligated to use it
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What is a good race to tank shit up lads? And what is the cheapest deck?
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>>121646402
>good race to tank shit up
Lyonar

>cheapest deck
Shadow creep probably
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>Get Vanar quest
>Expect to lose 4 games fast
>Put together a zooish deck with buffs and small dudes
>Win two in a row

WTF I thought vanar was bad
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Good lego?
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>>121648009
Pretty good. One hell of a wincon
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What Vanar cards should I craft? I'm a bronze noob, but I like vanar and I opened Gravity Well, plus a few other legendaries from other factions to disenchant
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So the servers are fucking up right?
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Is the matchmaking busted again for anyone else?
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>>121648436
nope, nobody wants to play card games with you

because you smell
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>>121648210
Some cheap ones
For nearly every type of deck: Snow Chaser, Hailstone Prison, Hearth-Sister, Razorback.
Added Vespyr synergy: Bonechill Barrier, Borean Bear, Glacial Elemental, Cryogenesis

There's also Mark of Solitude to buff weak 1-2 drops with, and Arctic Displacer to use as a finisher with Hearth-sister. Place in corner of the map away from enemies, if survives, hearth-sister teleport in for the kill.
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>>121648210
Voice of the Wind and Frosthorn Rhyno are great
Glacial Elemental and Aspect of the Drake are controversial but I like them
Boundless Courage is good, but Frostfire is free and almost as good

As for commons, Bonechill Barrier, Hailstone Prison and Hearth-Sister are a must
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Is it just me, or is Gold much harder than it was last season?

My scrub ass made it from 20 to 5 in like one day before, but now I'm stuck at 10 despite massively improving my deck. My winrate is about 30% now, whereas last month I regularly got streaks of 5 or more.
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>>121649859
People get better with time and they figure out the OP cards/start copying what wins. Meta will get more and more play tier 1 decks to win like in HS as time goes on.
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Which deck/faction should I use for my first battle?
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>>121650661
abyssian
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>>121651050
>abyssian
>win with a 23/23 Shadow Watcher
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>>121654179
abyssian stomps all low rank fags since they have no idea of what dispel does
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>>121654832
Magmar has some bullshit control options.
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>>121642598
At the end of the magmars NEXT turn
So if an egg is made during his turn, it will go to his events turn, then the magmar again and at the end of that it will hatch
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>>121657131
It's actually at the end of vanar's turn in that screenshot. It's worded as if Magmar is the player. Still bullshit, though.
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>>121658397
Those are two unrelated discussions
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>>121658459
Oh wait shit, my bad. Don't know why I thought he was replying to the metamorphosis thing.
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this might have been the quickest win of all time
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What do I do as vanar if I can't keep the enemy pushed back into their side of the field? Without infiltrate I feel like I lack any real power
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>>121660616
It's really easy to keep the enemy on their starting side, though. If they manage to break through, they probably deserve to win.
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>>121660616
Avalanche is pretty much your only chance.
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>>121662032
Nobody should ever run Avalanche.
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Final boss.
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>>121664735
nice
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cash in, or more gauntlet?

i'm feeling a little exhausted desu
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>>121665026
more
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>>121665026
why would you ever not do gauntlet?
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does flash reincarnation stack
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>>121665719
yes
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>>121664735
I've gotten better rewards at fucking 7 wins. Why the hell are the rewards so damn inconsistent? Makes me not even want to play when you don't even get rewarded more for doing better.
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I need advice on making my abyssian better, Dusted a spectral blade and vorpal reaver to make another Spectral revenant. I wont drop shadow reflection though. 90% of my wins have been thanks to that card. Thank you for your time. Was considering Mana forger due to my amount of spells, but not sure
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>>121668110
I'm not a fan of her 1 mana weapon, or 3 of breath, but I'm a shitter so idk
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>mfw just discovering this game

What are the best factions to play if I want lots of removal, control, and ranged presence? I've been playing vanar that way so far and it's been pretty fun.
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>>121669531
Abyss
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>>121669531
>>121669946
what

how is vetruvian not the perfect fit for what he wants
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>>121669531
Not ranged presence but Magmar is a heavy control faction with lots of removals and sticky minions.
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Is this game actually any good? What are the glaring pros/cons? And is there any PvE (If so, is it worth while at all)? The game looks neato.
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I just started playing today, something tells me this was a good pack.
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>>121669531
>magmar for super buff minions(+2/+2 or +4/+4) and going personal with your general
>abyss for flooding the screen with 1/1 creatures and shit load of cheap control spells
>vetruvian for range and be a rich faggots that affor 10001 legendary cards
>lyonar for 40 mins game because heals and more aoe heals
>songhai for inserting a dick in your anus and deal 12 damage in a turn with just one creature in hand
>vanar for everything in between and lots of walls
Pick your poison
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>>121670875
yes

pixels and srpg mechanics/balance isn't terrible but always an issue in games like this, absurd combos can lead to victories/losses out of seemingly thin air

no pve, that's for nerds
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pshh, nothin personnel kid
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>>121671165
That is a very good pack dude.
Don't dust anything yet.
Keep posting your cards here and I can safely tell you what you can dust.
Enjoy your stay :)
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>>121670875
Yeah, much better than Hearthstone
The only PvE here are the Challenges, basically "lethal puzzles" where you have to kill the enemy general in 1 turn. I heard they'll add a "story mode" since they're interested in the lore so maybe they'll add more PvE.
Packs have good ratios of finding legendaries/epics (I found a legendary every 4-5 packs or similiar) so you have more sources to craft the cards you want and build a competitive deck.
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>>121671165
>deathfire crescendo
I have never seen abyss pull off this
>orb weaver
pretty staple on vet
>mask of shadows
good if you are mist walking and backstabbing songhai
>sundrop elixer
pretty much lyonar
>first sword
it's shit, primus fist is cheaper thus better
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>>121671868
>>121671537
That's nice. I'll give it a try anyway. Been playing HS again lately and damn it's still on a decline. I don't take the game too seriously though anyway. Speaking of which, how casual/hardcore sort of deal is this? I tend to not take TBS/Card games too seriously, sort of a middle-ground.
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ha.

hahaha
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>>121670875
pros: so far you can easily climb to gold in ladder if you can play it safe with budged deck. No bullshit dr.doom on every deck. Faction decks are pretty flexible especially abyss because you can either play cheap budget shadow creep or deadwatch minions.

cons: burst damage out of nowhere and game's not popular for some reason so less players. I bet it's because less of marketing budget and it's pretty much direct competitor to the giant blizz game hearthstone

pve: so far it's tutorial/training ground. It's pretty fun if you are into brain cracking for bullshit move. Sometime the pve get fucked by changes in card. Bots game are dull and playing against players are more fun.
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I'm too retarded to live I guess.

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>>121672407
what is that?
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>>121671702
Glad to hear it, seems like I'm a scrub, but the game is fun, so I'm trying to learn. Here's what I have so far.
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>>121669531
Mark of Solitude Vanar is what you're looking for.
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>>121672052
Pretty casual though there's tournament but noone seems to care. Except for vetruvian decks, stacking legendaries pretty much less common occurrence.

I am on budget deck and i love playing as magmar and songhai.
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>>121673375

You only have the 2 legendaries, play the different factions and try to see for yourself which one you like the most and build a deck around said faction.
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>tfw you will never draw 5 legends you want in a single orb
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>>121627275
>hearthstone
>strategic

Anon...
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>>121675942
are you a semen demon?
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How do you counter shadow nova and why does it proc immediately after the turn ends?
It's not like i have a lightbender ready for it at any moment.
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>>121678849
Keep yourself healed up and area dispels. It would pretty much never deal damage if it was ever later than the turn it's layed down.
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>>121679517
>Keep yourself healed up and area dispels.

So pray to RNGeesus? Ok.
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>>121672359
Agreed on the burst damage. This game would be so much better if the numbers were lower, or starting life higher. It seems like they just wanted fast games so they made retardedly high damage cards and combos
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Magmar bros - what do you run in your 3-slots? I feel so conflicted about what to put there.
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>>121680576
Murkblood or Lady Locke. Those are the only cards I'd consider putting there
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>>121680576
>>121680731
Ah shit, forgot about Mogwai. That card is the bees knees
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>>121680731
Welp. Guess it's Saberspine Tiger with Diretide until I can wallet up for those.

>>121680804
I do find myself wanting to kill Mogwai as soon as it's played... Perhaps it'd be worth crafting two?
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>>121678849
>>121679646
Abyssian has way worse threats than (the first) Shadow Nova, like Nightsorrow Assassin + Shadow Reflection for 9 dmg 6 mana combo.

BUUUT if that Shadow Nova has you shaking in your boots, start separating you general from your units starting from right before their Turn 7. Before moving, summon the new minions close to Abyssian then back off until Shadow Nova can either only hit a part of your troops or face, not both. Abyssian can't establish board the turn they use Shadow Nova.

If that's too much effort, then have fun dodging Star's Fury + Third Wish in gold and above.
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>>121678849
it should do one or more of a few things to not be completely retarded:

>deal damage to any general or minion standing on it, friendly or enemy

>once a shadowcreep tile deals damage to something standing on it, it is dispelled
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>>121673375
The two legos you got happen to be top tier ones for both factions. Though I would say play Abyssian first since the Songhai artifact almost requires you to run mist walking/silhouette tracer to be effective.
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will steam release finally save our dead thread/game?
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>>121684404
No. Just quit now and stop wasting time on it.
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>>121684636
Kill yourself
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>>121682495
Both of those would totally ruin it though. Personally I'd make it so it triggers at the start of the controller's turn, not the end. That way Shadow Nova isn't a 4/8/12 damage 2x2 nuke and you can't do stupid Daemonic Lash shit for removal.
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>>121684706
Why get this mad over a dead game? You know it's only a matter of months now.
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>tfw no legos
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>>121685249
>tfw 30+ legos but no gf
I would trade it all
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>>121685201
I don't think he's mad but I also think that you should kill yourself or return on faggotstone
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>>121685201
Kill yourselfx2
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>>121685249
>>121685386
>tfw no gf or legos
Truly a miserable existence
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Wow, Jax+Third Wish is so broken
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>>121685818
That's nothing compared to Star's Fury + Third Wish + Primus Fist.
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how is the steam release even going to work? Is Steam just taking a cut of orb sales from steam users only? Will they still get 100% from browser/client sales?
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>Locke+Zurael is 10 mana
Why won't you let me have fun game?
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>>121684791
I think that your suggestion is way bigger of a nerf than "dealing damage dispels it" or "it damages anyone who stands on it"

with either of those options, the potential is still there to bring out surprise aoe damage, but either it introduces a cost in the form of having to be more and more careful with your positioning, or it prevents 2 consecutive turns of multiplicative damage.
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>>121686070
No, having them dispel upon doing damage would ruin them. People would just place their bulky minions onto single patches to eat them away. The whole point of shadow creep is to slowly coat the battlefield in it; single tiles do little and allowing players to pretty easily remove them means they'd never actually add up enough to be a threat. Shadow Nova is already pretty mediocre if it just hits for 4; dispelling anything it hits as well completely guts it.

The "damage anything" would be a little less debilitating but it's a negative incentive to use shadow creep and you'd be limiting yourself by using it. No thanks.
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>>121686328
>People would just place their bulky minions onto single patches to eat them away
that's the point, it introduces some form of counterplay yet still retains a huge element of risk: if you move a big minion onto a tile in the hopes of just dispelling it you open that minion up to taking something 8 damage next turn if more get put down, while at the same time only reducing the damage dealt from other tiles by 1.
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>>121686673
That's not a huge element of risk because it costs 7 to put down a Shadow Nova. There would be little to no risk in putting a minion on a spare tile here and there.
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>>121686775
again
you're risking a phat expensive unit to reduce the net damage on any other given tile by 1
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>>121686825
Or like a 2/3. Pretty much every class can generate tokens.
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>>121628415
>kujata x 2
>8 wins
How?
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>>121686870
right, so a 2/3 will immediately die to shadow nova and, for the third time now, reduce the net damage output of the other tiles by 1

alternatively, multiple 2/3's used to clear multiple tiles in one turn just means you're clearing the field for the rest of your minion spam, which can now do do their delicious suicide runs directly onto the general instead of needing to chip down minions
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>>121687171
what? That's hardly risky. worse case scenario they spend 7 mana to deal 5 damage to 4 minions and your general. Once. And that's if you're positioned terribly.
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>>121687358
We're not even talking about the fact that you can have Sarlac eat the creep? It costs the non-Abyssian exactly nothing at fucking all
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>>121687565
True, but having a Sarlac on the field vs Abyssian is often detrimental.
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>>121687358
seems about on par with other aoe damage spells that don't have the benefit of adding on to future spells if they're left around

at the very most reducing the cost by 1 mana would put it on the level with multi-casting other aoe spells

>>121687565
considering we're talking about dispelling the tile it costs you a fucking sarlac for the dumbest play of your life
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Somebody with talent, please draw this but as abyssian!

I beg you, it's matter of life and fap
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>>121687634
That's worst case. On average it'd hit 1-2 minions and your general for 5. Once. For 7 mana. That's completely awful. do you even play abyssian or is this just whining
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>>121687891
on average it'd hit/dispell 1-2 minions, hit the general and set up a follow up. for 6-7 mana.

and your argument is that this is more of a nerf than hitting for 0. Do you even play duelysts?
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>>121688061
where the hell are you getting this dispel thing from

shadow creep only does damage
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>reached rank 13
>on losing streak to rank 17
I gave up. Fuck this game.
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>>121688135
oh my bad, I now see the issue is that you just straight up didn't read the fucking suggestions being made alongside yours
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>>121688237
>once a shadowcreep tile deals damage to something standing on it, it is dispelled

oh, was this a stupid way of saying it dispels whatever's standing on it as well as the shadow creep itself
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>>121688154
right there with you
right before the end of last season I reached rank 11, one win away from 10 on halloween night
losing streak back to 15.
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I just tried putting 3 Shadow Novas on my deathwatch/shadowdancer deck and i swear to god this is easy mode.
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>>121647353
Is Lyonar cheap?
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>>121686042
Kujata
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>>121688962
Relatively
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>>121688962
relatively
a little cheaper than most magmar, and cheaper than strong songhai or vanar, definitely cheaper than vetruvian

I'm honestly not sure what faction has the cheapest rank10 deck

just realized I haven't seen a vetruvian in a very long time though
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>>121690441
>Cheapest rank10 deck
I think an aggro/burn Abyssian is very cheap to make
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all I want is an Elder drop before the inevitable nerf

literally magmar is all anyone is bitching about, and it just so happens to be the deck I built/disenchanted around since it got my first 2 lego drops. Thankfully my backup faction is vanar which no-one seems to give a fuck about but man it's disheartening to just know your faction is inevitably going to get stepped on at some point
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>>121691278
Even if they nerf Elder it doesn't mean Magmar will be shit, with all the powerfull other cards it has.
Also, they're not like Blizzard that thinks that nerf=make the card complete shit. Lady Locke was nerfed but it still usable (no, actually it's STILL used anyway).
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>>121691278
>>121691440
Elder isn't even the problem

It's their goddamn spells
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>>121691523
Nah it's their overly cost efficient minions
a 4/5 rebirth for 4m
4/4 frenzy rush, a minion that makes it even cheaper to summon those tanky minions at a tradeoff of 1hp?

Magmar spells aren't even close to vetruvian level, who can just destroy or take any minion, turn even the weeniest minion into a provoke tank at will, literally dispel for free, turn any minion into a flying tank, deal damage in multiples of 2 for every unit you have on the board(doesn't even have to be to those minions) and heal/overheal all of their own minions at little to no cost
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>>121691523
>>121692532

It is both, he is overloaded.

Either he gets those spells or those minions, not both.
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>>121686025
yes and yes
that's why most f2p don't come to steam
steam takes a cut of all in-game transactions to prevent publishers from putting completely free games on steam then just charging for content like levels etc
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>>121693108
I just hope they nerf one or the other but not both
I'd still like to be able to fucking play the damn deck

shit was not cheap to build
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>>121693256
I fucking despise Magmar and hope he gets gutted to Vanar level.
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>>121693429
>Vanar
>bad
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>>121693429
vanar still shits on magmar anon
what are you smoking
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>>121693429
vanar was nerfed? was this pre-open-beta?
because they still seem hilarious
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>get vetruvian quest
>only have the vet starter deck
>go against an abysshit with two sarlacs and a reaver
>go against the exact same guy next game

Holy shit fuck these quests sometimes.
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anyone been hanging on the one moment screen lately
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>faction quest
>only own a starter deck of that faction
>purposely lose all 4 games
>played with the same guy two times
>tips me both times and added me as a friend
>thinks he's the hot shit
>told him to play again one more time
>rekt his faggy lyonar with my abysshitter deck
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Is this game any good?
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>>121696267
it's fun and free, a little more engaging than hearthstone and the artstyle is fucking gorgeous. Definitely worth a play.

Climbing the ladder can be a challenge because the matchmaking will just decide to show you what a god-tier legendary deck looks like out of the blue every now and then, but I've been able to get decent help with all of my decks by posting in this general.
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>>121696267
I think it's great, but it's not for everyone
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what is a tempo deck?
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>>121696924
Attempts to build board advantage with minions and removal
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>>121697004
ah, thanks

I think that's the playstyle I find the most entertaining but how does that differ from control?
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>>121697262
Somewhere along the line people started using tempo to describe a playstyle in card games when it was used to describe a factor of the match before.

Tempo decks tend to build board advantage early (looking to dominate in the midrange usually), but control decks just try to nullify stuff in the early game so they have time to gather their win cons in the late game.
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>>121697649
hey thanks for taking the time to walk me through it
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I finally fucking did it
I cracked gold

Here's my deck. It focuses on beating down enemy minions the turn they come out to keep a minion advantage, while simultaneously whittling down their general at all costs.

Right now, Songhai is 50/50 against it since they usually have a speed advantage over me when it comes to general damage output. Vanar Control will win against it more often than not, unfortunately, and Abyssian straight shits on it, usually having a stronger mid and late game.

Any improvements that could be made right off the top? I'm thinking of dropping the 2x Earth Sphere for something else since I've never used that for anything but extending an alread-losing game.

Saving up for some vindicators at the moment. Other than that I have no clue.
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>>121698878
Drop the Flamebloods, they don't benefit you whatsoever if you're not playing heavy aggro. I'd dump a Mana Burn for a Lightbender, perhaps get 2 of them, and for gods sake, put in a Plasma Storm
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>>121698878
No plasma storm?
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I desire to own a zoo.
What is the best zoo?
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>>121699819

I like the idea of running more dispel, but without vindicator (yet) to keep the damage coming out turn by turn I've found that they're one of my only reliable sources of dirt-cheap early damage, and often force unfavorable trades to remove them from the field since if they aren't removed quickly a Greater Fortitude or a Diretide Frenzy is an extremely inexpensive way to turn them into a serious problem

re Plasma Storms(>>121700120), would running 2 in the place of Earth Spheres be enough, or is that spell worth cutting something to make room?
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