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/ink/ sure is slow today
the op's image is so cute!i almost asked why two of the birds were upside down and then i realized that i'm a huge dumb
does anyone else feel kinda bad when they accidentally hit the seagulls while fighting on rig?
No matter how high you raise your weekly Turf War ranking, this cute squidboy will, ultimately, always remain the real turf boss.
Spaghetti > Woomy
Marie > Callie
Dogs > Cats
Slides > Coasters
Hot dogs > Marshmallows
Planes > Cars
Decepticons > Autobots
Pirates > Ninjas
Pepsi > Coke
bitching fuck turf war bastards fuck OFF fuck off OFF jap gook eliter
sep '15 tim
>>121553552
oh anon you got ituntil the Hot dogs > Marshmallows part you were doing so good
So im going to try a new weapon, any recommendations??
soon...
>>121553539
>all the little decorations on his... sorry, i don't know what that is.... robe?
>>121553647
>50% of tim's kills are from using kraken
>>121553889
but thisNEVER EVER:(
>>121553834
H-3 Nozzle. You will be the only person ever using it.
When?
>>121554202
i love that gun
i have something like 146k on it atm
>>121554175
Nintendo will eventually get desperate enough once they run out of weapons
>>121553834
regular l3 nozzlenose
hose em down
>>121554309
What's your set for it? Nothing but Swim Speed?
>>121553943
I couldn't give you a name for it either but I'll be taking this opportunity to display more of Minato's art in this thread if you don't mind.
>The slight fuzz on the rim of her cap
>>121553889
Man I really want the new Octobrush. Already got several different builds ready for it
>>121553552
>pepsi > coke
>>121553647
>2 Damage Up mains on .96 Gal Deco
D-d-did you notice me this time,Timsenpai?
early summer tim
>>121553647Porn of Tim's woomy when?
This is the first time in a while that I've actually gotten salty and mad at random retards of ranked. Teammate trying to spawncamp when the fucking tower is nearing towards our area, eliters who have no idea what they are doing, and people that obviously got carried. Took me around 1 1/2 hours to go from S 54 to S 79 and less than that to drop all the way to 45.
>>121554546
Same here. Got my ink saver load out ready. Cant wait to abuse splat bombs. They're probably my favorite sub weapon.
>>121554735
Next we need the Quick Respawn Tentatek Tim.
We gonna do another squad or let it dissolve with the rotation?
GG's squad I'm taking a break for now.
>>121554705
Yep, you did great m8.
>>121554585
The defense up stackers were first spotted crawling Ranked a fair amount of weeks back, anon.
>>121554919
.96 Gal kills even people with 3 def up mains in 2 shots.
>Other team kills me every time I get my special
fucking christ, nothing gets me more mad
>>121554908
GGs homie
Time to go order Tim's gear and pray Spyke delivers
>>121554908
I d-did my very best!
who the fuck is tim?
>>121553889NEVEREVER
>>121555067
>charge up kraken
>try to use it
>die the moment it activated because lol lag
>>121555067
>relying on your special
Krakenfag detected. Probably uses the krak-on cruchroller.
>>121554874
>>121555237
You deserved it for using a crutch special.
>>121555419
Every special is a crutch
>>121555173
Judging by the rate we've been getting new weapons, I got a feeling we'll get it this month.
Wait a sec, I thought Tim was a spaghetti, not a woomy.
>>121555447
Please do not sexualize the tim
>>121555237
I fucking got killed by this jap with a carbon roller with the flick range and damage of the default roller.
>>121555452
And the kraken is the crutchiest of them all.
![zink_mini_splatling_splatoon_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qKUNtac.jpg "zink_mini_splatling_splatoon_2[1].jpg")
>>121553889
>tfw now that the heavy deco is out there's only 1 more unreleased weapon that you care about
>tfw everyone else will probably pick it up too and it'll be utterly fucking cancer
people are already willing to use garbage like the custom blaster and splattershot jr just to get their bubbler crutch. what'll happen when it shows up on a weapon that's actually good?
>>121555532
Isnt Tima representation of all the good and evil of this community?
>>121555637
>not bubble
>>121554384
no, actually. i guess i have a rather unorthodox set for it. i've told another curious anon in a previous thread, and some others replied with basically "what"
i use the strapping white shoes. yeah, the ones with ink saver sub as the primary ability. i like to use ink saver sub with weapons where i use my sub weapon to uh, how do i best put this... enhance the use of my main weapon. if i were spamming suction bombs, then ink recovery would be a better option plus, being splash mob shoes, they're more likely to have ink saver main as secondary abilities. mine happen to have 2, and 2 saver main subs is equal to one saver main primary. the third slot is special saver, if you're curious. ah, i'm rambling...
for my shirt, i use the sailor-stripe tee (the blue one). it has run speed+ as its primary. i also have two saver mains and one special saver as the secondaries on this item.
currently, i'm using the retro specs for my head item. quick respawn main (eh), with, again 2 saver main secondaries. the last secondary is bomb range+.
so basically, i stack a lot of ink saver mains, and an ink saver sub. special saver i don't care too much about, that's just how my rolls turned out. and it is mostly coincidental that all my gear is splash mob brand, heh.
i have, though, used sets with bomb range+ so that i can use my suction bombs to zone outside of my gun's effective range. i'll also occasionally use the lightweight cap (swim speed+ primary, inkline). mine has 1 run speed+ and 2 saver main secondaries. but the set i just described has been my favorite so far. i like to keep my distance, because with the h-3's excellent range i CAN, and because of that i don't see the need for ~extreme~ speed.
sorry about the wall of text.
>>121555260
that shit can apply to any weapon idiot
classic tim
>>121554557
>having literal shit taste
>>121555681
I see more krakens over-relying on their crutch than bubblerfags, mate. Stop trying to deflect to a different special, it doesn't change how much of a crutch yours is.
>>121555447
>>121555672
Glorious times ahead
>>121554516
gosh, all the small details are so amazing and adorable.
>those SHOES
and the crotch shot isn't purposefully sexual, lol. by that i mean the pose looks natural, and i don't feel like i've sinned by even so much as glancing at it. :Pcan you tell i don't like to sexualize the squid?
i wonder what octopal is waiting for?
>>121555672
Fuck I need that mini splatling
>>121555954
I hate facing a random team in solo and 3 of them have fucking kraken.
I'm looking to try out a new weapon, I'm currently using the Splattershot Pro any recommendations?
>>121556218
The only reason people complain more about Kraken is because Bubblers are only on shit guns while the devs love to put Kraken on everything.
>new weapon released has kraken as well
It keeps happening
>>121555954
I would say both, kraken and bubble, are the most over-relaying of all
Why /ink/? Why do I play so well by myself and so shit with you guys? My rank isnt that much different, and I demolish teams. Why?
>>121556218
when i was squadding last rotation (tower control), we ran into a team of s+ japs who all had a weapon with kraken.
actually, i bet i could name the weapons:
scoped custom eliter
nozzlenose l-3 d
krak-on (or custom range blaster)
.96 deco
i'm pretty sure that's what they had.
>>121556317
Good point. Bubblers are mostly on weapons with piss range whereas kraken is slapped on weapons from short to long range.
>>121556352
>only reason to play Krak-On Roller is to kraken as much as possible
>only reason to play SSJr is to bubble as much as possible
Clearly the weapons with the most skill requirements.
>>121556284
bamboozler! h-3! new squiffer! original heavy splatling! no, i'm not biased at all!
>>121556426
The team I faces had krak-on, splat deco, and .96 deco. The other person had a tentatek or luna. Im seeing more fuckers jump back to base before kraken runs out.
>>121556413
Because the better players play squads.
>>121556413
High level squads pits you up against many people who are used to playing together.
>>121555863
but coke is better than pepsi
both are shit compared tosolohowever
>>121556784
More like it's easier to form strategies and choosing the ideal weapons rather than hoping you get paired up with competent people.
>>121556426
You were close. It was nozzlenose, .96 gal deco, new splatling, and e-liter.I know because I recorded it.
>>121556863
all colas are trash compared to this beast
>>121556587
Really the only thing I hate about them is when you almost kill someone and randomly the get their special
So any lobbies available?
>>121556951
shit, that's right! i kinda already forgot about the new splatling.
that was an interesting match to record, because of their tunnel vision spawncamping that nearly cost them their win against a mostly sub-s team (twice). heh, hopefully i didn't look like a complete dingus... not that it matters, but i still can't help but think about it.
are you sendarum? i'm tia, btw, if you're curious about who would worry about looking like a straight up donkus in a vidya.
>>121556975
Step aside anon, here comes a real drink.
>>121556975
The real winner here
>>121557195
I'm too busy crying over my lost points to squad.
>>121557376
so you lost your rank?
>enough money for more than 60 rolls
>still can't get 3 quick respawn on my apron
I don't even know how some people can have so many good non-brand tripples.
>>121557235
I'm notSendarum, but you don't have to worry, you got 2nd in that match.It was also the only match in that squad where I bottom ranked, and badly ;_;
>>121557438
Close but I stopped playing.
>>121556975
>>121557376
it'll get better, anon... or maybe "hurt less" would be a better description. i dropped from A+ to A- in one night, but when i decided to squad earlier tonight i actually had a lot of fun, and gained a lot of points back. it's nice once you find a group that can play well together, or complement each others' playstyles, or whatever.
>>121557532
Wait, I What??Im Sendarum
>not drinking this
>>121557532
hehe, sorry, i'm not one to spoiler names. well, i won't try to guess which of the other two you were. i don't remember who bottom ranked, either. that happens to me a lot, too, though. it's disheartening, but if i'm doing my damnedest to play the objective and keep the area clear for my team, who cares how many times i have to die to do that... r-right?
i think we have a winner here
>>121557376
>>121557596
B- and A+ were nightmares to me
I almost spent a month getting to A- only to lose my rank in 10 minutes
>tfw no cute E-Liter woomy gf to watch your back when you are on the Tower or in the SZ
Why can't E-Liter on my team ever be good?
>>121557747
Yeah dont worry about that, Im usually the one who get more kills,But also the one who die a lot
So dont worry just play the objective andhave fun :)
>>121557674
Senpai your a baka cause you don't drink this desu
>>121557816
Thats what I'm here for.
>>121557816
>back
I bet she has this shoes with damage up, cyan or whatever they're called.
>>121558080
I didn't mean to greentext that line.
>>121557747Tree
>>121557961ThatsSo
>>121557235
what match are you talking about?Im sendarum
>today is scary zombies vs spooky ghosts
>zombie doesn't have red ink
>ghost doesn't have white ink
>>121557657
i thought >>121557532 and >>121556951 might have been you.
i posted >>121556426 and >>121557235 (and >>121557747)
sorry if i caused any confusion/alarm. despite lurking since mid-june, i'm still too new to /vg/ or whatever to know all of the "proper" "etiquette" to care about spoilers. also anti-spoiler anon is...well, they're certainly something.
>>121558223I don't know what this post is about or why you're saying my name
>>121558223
wait, what? so tree was recording? but thatsso wasn't with us. or are you trying to tag names onto posts to see if you guess right?
>>121558451
Oh dont worry anon, I was just asking because my name appeared in the conversation, it was only curiosity
And im also kinda new to /vg/ so dont worry
>>121558637
Nomaybe
>>121558869
I'm now laughing a lot that you thought of me when you read "Gets a lot of kills but dies a lot"
But no it wasn't me
>>121558747
ah, ok.
i remember getting teamed up with your twin squad one time when it was rainmaker, and we had the win in the bag until the last 20 seconds, where i goofed up majorly by not picking up the rainmaker and turtling, and got ambushed. so out of the others in the squad, your name was the one i was most familiar with.
>>121558428
is the splatfest on now?
>>121559134
11 hours until it starts
>>121559105
ooooohh i remember that one... yeah it was a mistake but it was pretty intese so dont worry
>>121558869
so you are guessing?
but what if...
...
anon! i'm too drunk for this!
>>121557816
I wouldnt mind being sniped from across the map by this woomy
Haven't played since sometime in September, what's new and what did the updates change?
>>121559807
Almos everuthing got nerfed and balancedExcept for the bubbler
>>121559807
Ranked mode is more bearable cause the nerfs allowed for more weapon variety but it didn't cure stupidity. Also more weapons.
>e liters are still sniping me from across the map
>splash walls, krakens and inkzookas are still retarded
>krak ons still one shotting me
>dynamos still being gay
THIS PATCH DID NOTHING
>>121559807
You can actually find S+ rank only lobbies now in solo play
>>121559942
What kind of nerfs are we talking? Still Krak-on's everywhere and Dynamo's bring irritating i bet
>>121559239
>splash always kills th dummies in 4 hits
>hit an enemy with 4 shots point blank and swim away
>turns out he didn't die despite no defense ups
>this happens frequently
goddamnit
>>121559981
they couldn't patch you being shit unfortunately :(
>>121560014
Splash walls got their durability decreased. Roller flicks can only kill from the front so no more brainless flicking in a general direction. Blasters can no longer 1 hit KO from indirect blasts to people who are at full health. Kraken needs more charge and can be knocked back more often. Eliters can no longer kill at half charge with multiple damage ups. Bubblers and krakens can be shot off the more easier. The full info is in the OP I believe. And nzaps got a speed boost. Inkzooka has more delay between shots.
>>121559981
>e liters are still sniping me from across the map
this is what Nintendo designed them to do dumbass
>>121560140
Get off your fucking high horse. I go on average get 9 kills on top of my teammates, mean while your sorry little FAGGOT ass has a negative kd! You are shit K I L L Y O U R S E L F
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>>121560450
Bubblers and kraken can get shot off the tower more often I meant to say. I should go to sleep.
>>121560507
Not him but last time I played Moray Towers the enemy had two E-Liters and there was literally no way to get past due to the entire team being severely outranged. Is there any way around that?
>>121560537
> actually mad
> doesnt cube correctly
Top lel
>>121560507
Until some dumbass thought it'll be fair giving them burst bombs to one variant and kraken to another.
>>121560585
I normally inkstrike their location and rush there as well to take them out on their perch.
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>>121560585
Blast them with inkzooka. Throwing bombs at them might kill them if theu sont move. If not, you can only hope to ambush them.
nnid: keith3145
anyone to twin squad?
>>121560807
Dude that's like my hw from grade school.
>>121560507
>huge range sniper rifle in a game with mostly small maps
lol
>>121560807
There you go, good job!
so, am i correct in assuming that you don't earn money from private battles? cuz then no one would play regular turf war...
anyway, does anyone wanna get some turf war on with me? i'm sort of a littlekinda reallydrunk, and not s rank yet, so squads are out for now.
>>121560585
>My dudes are pinned down by the E-Liter in Moray
>Manage to sneak past him
>He tried to get me, but he focuses on my mates
>Kill one of his guys
>Make my way around his perch
>Squish him
>Win the match
>>121560919
I might be down in a couple mins.
ID: Nizmo-Indian
>>121561164
Kill yourself you fucking nigger
>>121561323
>tfw 1.2mil coins and rollscummers block on what to roll
>>121562335
4x def up!
>>121562335
a def up dark urban vestso I can order it please
>>121561185
c-come on y'all
surely you're not that adverse to turfin
i guess if you're reluctant to ask, my nnid is tiabutt
>>121563248
meh why not? i will jump there in 2 min
>>121563368
in that case, do you already have me added?
>>121563248
all you had to do was say that you were a girl
>>121563248
Down. My loss streak sucks.
>>121562794
Already got that this morning, 4x def Takaroka Mesh. Still want 4x def Ski Goggles, but would rather do something else for now.
>>121563147
I need runspeedor Ink Recovery to regain my lost honoron that
>>121563424
anon, pls don't be weird about this
also, as a reminder, i'm fuckin wasted
i-i'm not playing badly cuz i'm A GIRL or anything
>>121563419
ready, so just regular turf wars right?
>>121563532
Its turf wars dont worryunless you are painting the walls in that case maybe you should rest for the night
Also i will be there for the next match, waiting for >1min
>>121563536
yup!>>121563664
ok, i forgot to switch my shit up before this, so if i leave, i will come back next round
>>121563532
You can be as shitty as you want, as long as youhave cute feetthat's all the matters
>>121563524
oh it's scarf
roll for a pure special charge hat so you can pretend to be thryack
>>121563248
Can we do a private lobby?
>>121563524
get a x4 damage ika dress
>>121563798
gotcha
>>121563858
but, there's no money to be made in those, right? or am i mistaken?
>>121563808
do not
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>>121564209
haha, what's that???? lol :)
>>121563664
>just remembered i always painted the walls when just starting turf war since i thought that counted towards our score
>>121564352
Doesnt it at least count towards your special weapon?
>>121564408
i don't think so (never paid attention to that) but strategically painting walls for movement can be a very very very good thing. recon your maps, people
>>121563524
>tfw you have better gear than scarth
YESSS
>>121564408
i recall it only ever so slightly filling up but that may have been spots landing on the ground here and there
>>121564352
we all were young once
What do I do /ink/?
>>121564746
Stop playing the worst game mode and get your ass into ranked :^)
>.1%
>>121564609
What sort of gear do you have dude?
>>121563837
Ive been meaning to order off him but haven't found much need for them
I want to try stacking special charge with the kelp though
>>121563960
Already have the part time pirate
>>121564885
12 off brands (2 are neutral)
>>121565076
If you want anything of mine, let me know. I'm trying to get a bunch of nice gear now that I have more free time so any orders I can grab are nice too
Any squads up?
>>121566370
Nah, I just wanted you to know that I'm better than you.
>>121566370
do you have triple run speed red hi horses?
>>121566728
I haven't leveled any of the hi horses sorry. I have QSJ Punk Whites though, if you're looking to break the meta
>>121566889
nah, red work boots already fill that role for me
Well Tia and Scarth Im off for the night, those were some fun matchesand you were really drunk Tia
anybody ever notice this rifle just sitting there?
found it kinda odd
>>121567102
you're welcome!!!
yes i am
oh god i am
>>121567102
>>121567193
Lots of fun! Thanks guys :D
>>121567193
Tias Squid at the begging of every match, just turning slowly upwards like asking herself:
What the fuck am I doing?
>>121567190
also anyone got any idea what this is?
thought it was a splat wall at first but after throwing mine out i realized it wasn't that at all
>>121567190
Its a weapon testing range, Callie or Marie probably left it there before they had to rush off to do an announcement.
>>121567281
i was typing to someone on skype at the same time okkkk
but yeah, that is an accurate description of me
>>121567349
looks like a tiny baby roller, just compared it to carbon and it's actually smaller than carbon
How's the new Splatling? Does it have a sprinkler?
>>121567650
it's ok, better up close but regular splatling is better imo since wall
point sensor
I gotta go as well Tia, fun games
Grab the boots if you want them
>>121567702
Shit.
A sprinkler would go great with a Splatling, but what about the special? Inkstrike? Inkzooka?
On that note, we could use some more sub weapons/specials.
>>121567780
kraken
it's not as great as you'd expect for the thing
hydra splatling when
How goes Europe's splatfest?
>>121567836
I'm sick of Krakens. Too many Krak-On faggots use them, hence why I mentioned new subs/specials.
so scarth... not that i think you're in a clan or know ~every clan~ but
are you familiar with 8k or TNS?
i'm only asking cuz i don't know shiiit
i can match algebraguy/bayardo at times, but emile... idk
>>121567870
Pretty shit. I did not have a single match so far.
>>121567756
oops, didn't think to refresh the page before i posted a reply!
thanks for playing tw with me. glad i got to splat ya a few times, too ;)
>wonder why your team is loosing
>stand on a high point, look at the enemy squids crowding around
>they're all warping around
>>121567976
I think 8k is a jp clan, but I have no idea who TNS are I would assume theyre western
>>121568049
Ye good games
i wish Tia was my girlfriend
So where can I go to get the best doujin-style lewds for this game?
I've googled forever and couldn't find any of the sources for the really good cropped pics I've seen here and elsewhere.
>>121568151
that's weird, cuz all the 8k guys i know are mostly from mexico. but, that doesn't necessarily mean 8k is exclusively western either.
the person i know with a TNS tag lives in NA and i believe their first language is spanish.
i was just curious. i've skimmed over...squidboards...but i'm not sure how to actually search for or look at clans? not that i want to join one. i'm just interested in seeing, well, how they operate. and squidboards CAN'T be the only place to coordinate one... right?
>>121568349
Are they even a girl? Are we doing this again?
>>121568349
anon, don't be stupid
>>121568494
i'm most definitely a GRILL, so what?
why does anyone doubt this?...........
>>121568494
No clue, it's a feminine sounding name at any rate. Shitposting about Jess has long since passed, so I'm sure this will be similar.
>>121568349
>>121568537
>>121568620
Tree for best waifu
>>121568620
Its just how the internet has always be
Men are 13 yrs old boys
Women are >30 yrs old men
And girls are agents from the CIA
so yeah...
>>121568679
SCANDALOUS
>>121568670
if you guide yourself only be reading a femenine name on the interneti have some bad news to you anon-kun
>>121568717
but i'm a female cyborg from the future, sent to destroy you all
>>121568868
silly cyborg-chancyborgs are not people
>>121568670
Isn't that because Jess is just gone, though?
>>121569007
i'm fucking triggered desu
>>121569045
i've been so confused by this, because i have a jess from /ink/ on my fl with a male mii, but when i was squadding a few days ago with /ink/sters there was another jess with a female mii (and different nnid, obvs)
>>121568778
forbidden love
>>121568472
Youre probably right about 8k then, its possible that guy just borrowed a Mii and renamed it
For clans, look at the groups section on squidboards as well as the squid locator and squad social subforums. Most of them use private IRCs for the majority of communication though
I believe there are a couple of non squidboards related forums for nonenglish speaking players. Pretty sure Ive heard of a chilean one and an Argentinan one
>>121568670
>tfw a boy named Jess
>>121569258
alright, thanks for the info.
>>121568406
Come on, I know you guys have them.
>>121569045
>>121569150
I'm still here.
>>121569615
what does the red kanji mean?
>>121569656
looks like Korean.
>>121569542
Sad panda has a few
>>121569542
Here are somehot squids
I want tokissTia on thelips
>>121569892
who are you and why
>>121569656
>>121569709
It's just how I sign my doodles.
>>121569892
Whoa lets keep it E for Everyone ovee here
Flounder heights is such garbage
I want tomassageTia's cutefeet
>>121570954
i have duck feet, js
Rate woomy pls senpai
>>121557674
>>121557253
>>121556975
>>121554557
>drinking nasty shit colored calcium dissolving drinks
>not based sierra mist or also good sprite
>>121571814
2slow
>>121571814
Hat clashes and leaves you very color dependant. Recommend a color changing hat or better matching to the pink. White is a nice go-to.
>>121571814
0.5 wouldnt kisss
I haven't played in months
Now I will play Turf war to warm up.
any weapon suggestionsß
>>121572430
Slash-O-Matic
>>121572430
H-3 Nozzle
>>121562335
Stealth Jump shoes with Quick Respawn to even out the jump speed penalty.
Quick Respawn shirt with Special Saver to pair with the Backward Cap.
4x Bomb Range gear.
Bomb Range + Damage Up gear for Burst Bombs.
4x Swim Speed and/or Run speed gear.
>>121567349
It's a Splat Roller's handle.
>>121568036
yeah but i guess you haven't lost one either?
>>121573386
tru dat
>rank changed
>wake up
>this cosmo shit is actually real
Holy shii I was thinking it was just a dream
>>121574750
This what shit?
>>121574796
that he thinks he can magically turn himself into a girl LMAO
Oh how the mighty have fallen
>>121573672
>>121571840
This guy right here.I prefer Pepsi over Coke but it makes me need to shit.
Who here wants Jojo gear?
Hosting again!
All weapons/ranks welcome.
NNID IAMUSORRY
>>121567756
>PAL Splatoon
>not totally radical 'c'mon!' and 'booyah!'
What was the localization team thinking?
