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/wpsg/ guilds:

Cata
<Autism Awareness> - Atlantiss 1x (Alliance)
Interested in a level 80 character on Atlantiss? We have a few accounts to give away. Contact Cucumbers or Grossweiner in-game for information.

>Where can I get game clients?
http://pastebin.com/mxjmsr3t (embed) (embed)

>How do I connect to [server]?
1. Register on a private server that hosts the same game client you have.
2. Copy their realmlist URL. This can usually be found on the main page of the website or on their registration page.
3. Look for a realmlist.wtf file in your WoW folder. This may either be in the root folder, or inside Wow/Data/enUS/
4. Open the realmlist.wtf file in a text editor such as Notepad and paste in the realmlist settings of the server. Make sure it starts with 'set realmlist' followed by the realmlist URL.

>I have set the realmlist correctly but it still connects me to XYZ server/says invalid login info.
You will need a clean wow.exe and dll files if you downloaded your WoW client from XYZ server. Check the clients section above.

>How do I stop my client from auto-updating?
• Start the game with wow.exe - not launcher.exe
• Don't use your email for logging in, use your account name.
• Find the patchlist file in your installation and remove it.

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Nice only the alive guilds in the op
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What server are you guys on actually
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>>121174849
its in the op
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<VG> on lordaeron alliance waiting you, most active /wpsg/ guild by far since <wpsg> died today.
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>>121175545
*normie guild
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>>121175545
No moltbabys allowed here
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>>121175656
i think you're mistaken, friend. Atlantiss is the normie guild
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>>121174019
the fuck is that a picture of?
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>>121175545
As long as Tyrannis is in the guild I'm not going there, and so are many other people who know him and what he has done. I don't want to witness another normie fiasco.
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>>121176087
Falseflagging is rampant here
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I'm actually sad that <wpsg> died the few people that I did know from <wpsg> were pretty cool dudes. I wonder if switching raid times to be slightly burger friendly could have saved the guild
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>>121176497
Burgers are hard workers, we don't play on 999x fun servers
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>cucumbers trying so hard to shill when everybody already know exactly the type of person he is
I have serious concerns for his mental health
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>tfw you would play cata eith wpsg only if there was a new guild without autists in control
Shrek2.0 when
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>>121176771
we probably wont go back to atlantiss for a bit, but we are going to be watching blizzcon together, should really join us for it and next halloweens spookathon. im gonna learn how to split ts audio from stream and its going to scare the pants off of you ! ! !
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>>121176678
I'm not shilling though.
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>>121176919
it was just an example, i really don't want to watch blizzcon, let alone do it with fucking shrek core.
i'd be down for a horde guild too
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>>121176919
Christmas-athon and good MoP server when?
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>>121177069
So i can pencil you in for the spookathon then?
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>>121176771
Cucumbers and grossweiner are the exact type of people that you want to lead a guild. They help out fresh 85s constantly and always play their A game. Just because cucumbers is bad at raid leading doesn't mean he's bad at the game.


Also the guild is incredibly chill and the only people who say otherwise can't handle banter.
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>>121177069
Faction is irrelevant. Before I rolled on Atlantiss I exclusively played horde but then I realized it doesn't fucking matter
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>>121177308
>They help out fresh 85s constantly

I can confirm this.
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>>121177308
Stop flattering me
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>>121177308
>20 year old kid
>guy who doesn't talk
>tanks who don't communicate
>kicked infection because of association
>raid leader who can't lead
>expect to clear Nefarian / any heroics with said raid leader
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>>121177308
>>121177474
>>121177624
>ruining threads and attempting to kill other projects
>can't handle banter xd
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>tfw didn't get to convince jenk to vote for you
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>wpsg raids meme castle
>hurr gdkids fucking SUCK

>wpsg dies
>please come to our d-dead server
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>>121177720
I didn't kick infection that was Greg. Only shrek person I kicked was Sehsa.
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Please stop intentionally excluding <VG> in the OP, we are a 100% /wpsg/ guild and we're waiting u
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I think we gave wotlk a fair shot and can safely say it was a mistake. It just attracts the worst kind of milenials. Lets advance to any given cata servet.
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>>121174019
Magnet url for TBC Client from pastebin isn't working.
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>>121178234
>shituh
>wengcore
Absolutely no
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>>121177937
I couldn't kick people with the same power as me. That could only mean that you kicked him yourself.
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>>121177937
And Greg :^)

But seriously if your tanks don't talk find a way to fix that. Communication between tanks is incredibly important
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post current online roster of autism awareness without multiboxing
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>>121177101
the best mop is warmane, so in 2 years a real mop server should pop up
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>>121178657
Not me
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>>121178407
Atlantiss is the only 'playable' cataclysm server.
There is twinstar that is script heaven but no english speaking community.
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>>121177839
No point, at this rate Bjenk will commit sudoku before the election.
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>>121178797
still waiting
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>i will take a lvl 80 just so you can steal it back when I geared it

No thanks AA, you have proven yourselves yesterday.

Fresh guild on decent server when? Sorry Lordboys but that server is absolute garbage and a waste of time.
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does anyone have cucumbers facebook pics?
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>>121179257
i literally just started on twinstars because of >>121178994 cya in a week with my findings
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>>121179257
Then level up your own you casual gdkid who can't handle 1x rates.
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>>121174019
/who <autism awareness>
0 online
why is this shit in the op again/
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>>121178657
I demoted inactive officers. Infection made it clear that he'd rather play on lord and that's fine, so he wasn't an officer and you kicked him
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>>121179505
>gdkid
nope
>x1 rates too hard
nope

Fine display of your autism once again. Even with the dead of wpsg you will get nowhere.
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>>121179847
>Even with the dead of wpsg
okay borris
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>>121179847
>30 people 50+
>nowhere
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>>121179451
Really? Post your armory so we can see you're not lying and track your progress.
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>>121179257
Greg took back accounts, not grossweiner. Level up your shit posting m8
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>>121178797
>>121179153
>>121179623
>so dead you can't even shill
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>>121180312
Some people have things to do during the day
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>>121178234
does any cool cat except ituh play there?
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Suck my ass shitposters <AA> is alive and THRIVING
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>>121181709
Verdy you are always so rude
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>>121182292
>cant see that its actually Scrotes
desu baka senpai
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>>121182292
w-what
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>>121182680
verdy is the fucking gayest shitposter desu, understandable mistake
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>to be honest replaced by desu

..........
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>>121183032
>le ebin word filters
fucking candyass mods
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>>121183113
2chan fucking chink wants to bring back the weebs
slant eyed fucking faggot is literally trying to start the beta uprising
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>>121183068
>>121182779
How does it feel to know that Americans make better beer than Czechs? Our craft beer industry has completely overthrown European beer.
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>>121182860
lmao desu senpai baka Verdy is a shit. A SHIT.
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>>121183068
what what?

it's quite obvious that you're the biggest homo on this thread by far. a night elf slut too, you probably fantasize about being raped by multiple strong, rude and filthy orcs.
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>>121183268
What are you on about senpai? What beer do you even have in America? Bud PISS? Why are you even trying to compare to Kingdom of Beer?
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>>121183296
That's not true at all. I'm pretty straight you know.
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>>121183591
Ever heard of craft beer friend? Just because old faggots and fratboys drink natural light doesn't mean we all do. Even the most boring craft beer is better than most European piss these days.
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>>121183591
>muh microbreweries
>muh 200$ beer that tastes like moss diluted in rat piss
>classy flavours
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>>121183825
>>121183851
Maybe I'll listen to what you have to say after you tasted some REAL beer.
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>>121177308
I'm not leading shit you dingus
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>>121183761
I have GBs of erp logs that prove otherwise
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>>121183851
Lmao you have no taste. You literally can't handle the flavor of beer so you drink budpiss.
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>>121184038
You're literally the silent pillar that supports the guild. If that isn't leadership I don't know what is
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>>121184078
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>>121184257
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>>121184078
do it senpai
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>>121184882
it would be embarrassing for both of us
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Another quality thread brought to you by atlantiss shitposters
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>animeposters
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>>121184078
Why does she have yoghurt on her head?
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did <wpsg> die today?
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>don't play on atlantpiss for a few days
>get gkicked

worse than gd kids.
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>>121186291
yes
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>>121186361
greg kicked everyone
just whisp anyone for invite
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>>121186361
Greg went postal and used a macro to kick everyone senpai
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>>121185673
animeposting is 300000x better than everything else going on in these threads you autustic mouthbreathing fuck.
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>>121187417
you pretend to be a girl and get off with verdy
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>>121187520
And that is wrong how?
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>>121187520
no, verdy is a girl, I don't have to pretend being one.
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>>121187992
a fucciboi=/=girl
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>>121178234
Nice binds shituh
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>>121190782
please never stop posting
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who is "poison" on bnet? i forgot to set note
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>>121192115
>/wowg/
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what servers are you faggots playing on?
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>>121192316
in the op
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>>121192346
>Cata

yeah no
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>>121192525
Lordaeron, wotlk on alliance. Biggest group of wpsg players are in <vg>, some are horde but not many
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>>121192525
>wrath

yeah no
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>>121192813
i'll just stay on nost
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was the transmog glitch fixed?
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>>121192897
i don't blame you, this thread is awful and there's not very many places worth playing right now.
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>>121193359
no
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>>121194214
weird, it's not working for me.

I'm binding an hotkey to switch to the weapon I want to transmog into and then pressing it at the same time I transmog some random weapon with the the visual I want. what is wrong?
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Is Atlantiss down?
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>>121194631
Is one of the weapons a mh/oh? Because that doesn't work for those strangely
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>>121194774
nope
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>>121194774
surprisingly, no.

>>121194813
... then what's the point of the bug lol. can I do 1h into 2h?

I've seen a DK with double soul blade transmogged into double ethereal. it has to work somehow.
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>>121194774
If my fucking boe is gone reeeeeeeee
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>>121195002
I've been able to mog any kind of weapon into any other including 1H into 2H and vice versa, it just doesn't work for MH and OH, at least for me
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>>121195534
I just can't do it, rip
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>>121195534
has to do with latency. pretty sure it's easier to do for americans than europeans, unless you force your lateny to go high somehow.
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wwu
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>>121196719
it should say atlantiss on that sign....
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>>121196719
>72x rate funserver kids on a well scripted WotLK server emigrating over to a 1x stock trinitycore Molten server
*_*
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>>121198717
>emigrating
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I'm pretty cute desu.
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>>121199596
>premade ui
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<Verve> is officially leveling Lordaeron right now

We plan on taking every server first from you shitty Yuropoors :)
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>>121199941

Who saves that
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>>121200376
i do
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>>121199940
you're going alliance, right?
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>>121199940
who, of note, is leveling in Verve
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>>121200689
Snide, Ak, Miley, Dorner, Vincer, Rivsy, Loads, Varn, Xut, Smokedog, and a couple others

>>121200487
Yep, we don't need any stinky mud dweller racials to shit on kids.
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>>121201102
>Snide
tbc2hard
have to play babbywrath
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>>121176220
Yesallwomen still salty about those flasks and ganks.
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>>121201454
That's fine.
I'd rather women not be in <VG>.
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>>121199941
>>121199596
What server?
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>>121202527
>implying that's one server
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>>121199941
I remember Hotbox being that guy we made a bunch of blue LW gear for in <Video Games> then him just disappearing like a week later
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A bird told me something about a certain glitch regarding the cd on transmutes, on atlantiss.
Anyone knows more?
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>>121202947
that was on hellground like last year
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>>121203370
No idea. I do know that when I was swapping from Elixir Master to Transmutation Master it didn't exactly get rid of my Elixir Master so I had the benefits from both.
I went for the third mastery but when I unlearned my Elixir Master again it got rid of my Elixir Master completely.
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>>121204229
I know a trick with northrend research, the cd resets if you logout, but I guess that one's easy to figure out.
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So AA has died, wpsg has died, vg on the verge of death (it may not look it, but once wotlk content comes they will die).

When's TBC?
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>>121205163
delete this
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>>121205163
>[2]
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>>121205223
>i want <VG> to die so it's already dead
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>>121205223
Corecraft is literally right around the corner.
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>>121205223
AA isn't dead though
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>>121205223
w8ing for u here @hellground, kneeling to mdmax's corpse
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>>121205163
>
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>>121205163
>cutting off the part where cucumbers said stop
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>>121205163
lmao nice normie guild catakeks
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Feels good
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>>121204117

Sofala what server you playing on?
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Is there any way I can take a prepackaged UI and only take the pitbull settings from it? I can deal with every other addon, but pitbull before wotlk is ass to configure.
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>>121209714
atlantiss
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>>121203365

Wasn't me, I never played in video games.

My HG char was the first time I used that name
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>>121209952
nice photoshop
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>>121209952
Kek. That name is way off to the side.
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>>121211251
>>121211935

I have noggenfogger on you autists.
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>>121201342
This. Struggling on Hyjal and retard antics. You're not gonna destroy anyone except yourselves.
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Is MoP warmane server good? Or more bugged than the cata server they have?
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>>121217898
You have to go into every mop server expecting the worst.
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>>121217898
>MoP
>good

No
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>>121217898
if u want to play mop just play cata on atlantiss wwu
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>>121217898
Bugged to the max like every other Warmane server. They're in it for the cash, so they'll put in just enough effort to keep the people who don't know better playing there and not a bit more.
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Daily reminder that <autism alarm> will never get 25 mans going and their 10 man circle jerk is full.

Join lordaeron.
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>>121218457
>tricking people into investing time on a 1x mol10 server
that's some high level trolling right there
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>>121218457
the 10 man circle jerk is not full though
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>>121218586
You mean a brand new server that happens to be the best progressive server available?
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>>121218851
that's not nost
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>>121219784
nost can't even av
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>>121219858
it just werks
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>>121222641
Hi meer
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>>121222852
but im not
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>>121222934
>>121222852
Hi meer
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is this what dorf women look like
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>>121222934
I've just planted the seed.
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>>121223109
that's a trap
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>>121223109
seems legit
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>>121222641
Kek is cute! Cute!!
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It is with a sad heart that we announce the demise of the greatest guild /wpsg/ has ever had - <wpsg>. You will be missed.
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so is lorderon dead?

I play horde and haven't seen a singler person in quite a while

also looks like the player base has been steadily dropping

also no horde /wpsg/ guild is kinda sad

maybe I should just move back to nostalrius
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>>121224851
how about you join the established and growing wpsg guild on alliance side faggot
you cant always play your epic edgy undead rogue
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>>121225407
Lmao, nothin personal kid
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>>121225407
honestly I would rather just not play than play alliance thanks

who plays a fantasy game just to be human?
never understood that
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>>121225517
You can be an elf, a gnome, a dwarf, or space goat.


>he doesn't play a game because of a faction
literally grow the fuck up
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>>121225517
people who want everyman
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>>121225517
then dont bitch you retard
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>>121225712
when was I bitching?
I was asking a genuine question
I haven't seen anyone and was wondering if the server was dying

>>121225582
purple human
small and smaller human
and space goat are kinda dumb imo never liked them but to each his own

>>121225583
if ur gonna play alliance no real reason to not play human unless you are a druid or a hunter
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>>121225915
Yeah as opposed to the horde where you have green burly human, cow human, lanky scoliosis human, dead human and gay human. I prefer horde as well, but your reasoning is faulty.
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>>121226024
while I agree that all the races possess the standard bipedal 2 armed form I think that Tauren are unique enough that they make interesting characters

its pretty much the only reason I play horde is so that I can play as cow people

Space Goat people are unique as well I just don't like them
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nice blog

should have voted for the guild to be horde before lord was released
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>>121226334
>voted
>implying the alliancekeks give a shit about general opinion instead of pushing their subhuman propaganda
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>>121226221
>cow human
>unique

Literally the most stupid reasoning every. Might as well kill yourself senpai.
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>>121226376
It was discussed regularly for a week before release. Alliance was the overwhelming voice.
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>>121226547
You heard what you wanted to hear, kek.
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>>121226334
this is literally my first time posting in this general
I wasn't even aware there was a vote.
I don't care about your guild either
I just came to ask a question jesus

>>121226408
I like the race I like
nothing against people that like alliance but I just don't like any of the races and especially don't like the models

if I could make a human male who wasn't the size of brock lesnar and could make someone who was a bit thinner so that I could play a spellcaster without feeling like my guy bench presses 200kg every morning while memorizing his spell list I probably would
but playing as beef mc large huge caster man has never been something I have wanted to do and will never be something I want to do.
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>>121226607
>this is literally my first time posting in this general
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>>121226598
>implying I didn't want to be an orc
I manned up m80.
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>>121226547
Mfw I samefag the shit out of every poll this thread sees.

Chances are if it got more than 30 votes 90% of the votes were me.
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>>121226835
You submitted to the opinion of subhuman libertarian leftist degenerate kek propaganda, and therefore you yourself became a kek.
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>>121226908
I just don't care that much about faction. I've played both enough, also during t7 there will be more than enough time to pvp.

>>121226907
Do you really think polls with those kinds of numbers go unnoticed?
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>>121226907
god bless

now I can play wrath without having to be around /wpsg/ shitters playing horde
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>>121227080
Well played. Now you play wrath being around /wpsg/ shitters playing alliance.
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>>121227180
which is perfect
I can play horde and avoid you all

I can also make it a point to kill every last one of you that I find since pretty much everyone in this general blows at pvp
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>>121201102
>christdorner
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>>121227282
nice assumptions

what's your name so I can record webms?
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>>121227371
>thank god all those /wpsg/ idiots are playing alliance so that I can play horde so that I don't have to interact with them
>hey whats your name so that I can interact with you?

fukin epic
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>>121227483
>I can also make it a point to kill every last one of you
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>>121227559
thats on my terms buddy :^)
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>>121227631
I just want to know who to record.
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>>121227289
Can't corner the Dorner
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>>121227631
Alright. I'll just have to kill EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU FILTHY HORDE SCUM
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>playing alliance

have fun losing 90% of all battlegrounds
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>>121228221
this tbqpav100%h family
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>>121228282
to be honest family
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>>121228314
desu senpai
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>>121228489
kek
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>tfw shattering someone for half their health

I missed this
can't wait for ice lance
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Is lordaerons progressive shit any good 2 months sounds like a lot of time to wait for wotlk content
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>>121228783
only 1 month now
it takes a minute to get to 70
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>>121227702
he corners himself with his shit dps
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>>121228783
its crap even the dungeon finder is broken

play on dalaran instead
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>>121229021
>broken

thats intentional
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>>121229071
Intentionally broken is still broken, dear shill.
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im not even in a guild what the fuck atlantiss
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>>121230331
also dead guild
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>>121230331
people can invite you to events using macros
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;_;
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>>121230918
R I P
I
P
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>>121230918
owned
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lel
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>>121206052
He's still around?
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>>121186430
>>121186476
Gee, you guys are really selling this thing to me aren't you, publicly showing what sort of unstable people you have in leading positions.
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>WoW subscription numbers still falling
>Blizzard will no longer announce sub count

legacy servers when
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>>121234204
They can't make a legacy server even if they tried. They didn't backup any of their shit. Our only hope is that they take mangos/trinity and completely redo them like corecraft, but even if they have hundreds of employees working on it (which they won't) it could still take 2-3 years.

I think Blizz is just gonna let wow die and move onto f2p garbage.
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>>121234749
>believing that lie
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>>121234749
>They didn't backup any of their shit.
Bullshit excuse and you know it, blizzdrone. No self-respecting company throws away legacy code. They just don't want undeniable proof that retail is shit.

I do agree with you that they'll keep milking wow how ever long they can and eventually will pull the plug when subs drop low enough.You can even tell the production budget for wow has gone down drastically with how utterly shit wod turned out and basically released half-unfinished.
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>>121235294
im playing on lordaeron and i make a joke about quiting because no dungeon finder right now and someone says welcome to vanilla it weeds out the boys so i tell him there is no way this is vanilla and he calls me a troll and ignores me

i shouldnt get mad but im outraged people like this exist
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Does anyone here actually think Legion will be good?
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>>121234749
The idea of them not having used a version control system is pretty much unthinkable. "We don't have the source" is almost certainly a lie. It's extremely inconvenient to do any collaborative work without one, and if you have the source in version control, you can restore any of the old revisions.

And anyway, even if they for some outrageous reason really didn't have the source for older versions of the server software, most of the work in making "perfect" private server really is in research and retail servers currently have almost all TBC content and a good chunk of vanilla dungeons the way they originally worked (besides numbers that might have changed and some changes to make bosses soloable, which should be well-enough documented changes to figure out the old ones) and they must have at least some resources we don't (for example, the guy who made the durability system probably has at least some idea about how it's supposed to work and, if it has been changed in between legacy expansions and retail, what exactly was changed).
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>>121235496
I think the people that are still subscribed to retail will enjoy it. For everyone else, its become standard practice for Blizzard to cut corners and they've been doing it so long now I can't imagine Legion will be any different.
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>>121235650
You didn't answer my question, anon.
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>ghostcrawler is gone and can't save us
>metzen is too stubborn to accept that retail is dogshit and he did everything wrong
>blizzard shoehorning in fan service bullshit (everyone gets a legendary, demon hunters, the burning legion, etc) to try and regain all their subs and failing hard
>corecraft will never come out
>servers are made by teens/young adults that have no idea how to code, run a server, be an admin, etc etc

Will all of wow die with legion?
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>>121235687
Fan service bullshit has been in the game since MOP with literally free legendaries.
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>>121235783
Wasn't the cape just as hard to get as say shadowmourne though? A long ass quest chain that required many many raids, many gold, many items, etc? Or are you talking about how every class and every spec got one that they could use?

Either way. TBC's legendary system had to be the worst so far. Yeah you had to do hard raids to get them, but leaving it up to drop chance with no quest or any other prerequisite is pretty fucking dumb. Especially when the bow wasn't even good for hunters and was more suited to a rogue or fury warrior (even then the rogue and fury could have benefited more from golden bow). And it also doesn't help that the other was useless as well due to melee being shit and only needing 1 rogue and 1 dps warrior per raid.
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>>121236086
Dumbass
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Tbh
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>>121236086
The difference in shadowmourne and the capes and rings though is that for the new legendarys you just have to be there. For shadowmourne you at least run the risk of changing up your role or play style to finish the quests. You have act as the OT for the first 2 phases of putricide, you have to be tanky enough to survive sindys breathe multiple times, and you have to get your raid to prioritize you for bites early on BQL as if you're one of the top dps. For the new shit it's just "hey go loot [insert arbitrary amount here] of this thing that drops off the bosses in this one raid." That's not hard, and that doesn't require thought. It just requires you to be there, and that's not okay because it rewards EVERYONE. If EVERYONE is special, then no one is.
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>>121238449
Still, Shadowmourne is too accessible. I don't think legendaries need to be available from final boss of the expansion only like Thori'dal and them being rare drops is a bit iffy indeed, but Shadowmourne, while the quest chain is neat, isn't the way to go either. I think Val'anyr struck the right balance between availability and reliability of getting one.
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How does /wspg/ feel about Sulfuras, TF, and Atiesh? I feel it's weird you can get both Sulf and TF without ever raiding beyond MC (since the ingots are BoE and can be bought so you don't need to go to BWL), but other than that I liked how it was sort of a challenge/long journey. Low drop chance items, needing multiple professions, arcanite transmute on CD, huge fun raid boss at the end (although sulfuras didn't have this), etc.
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>>121201592

That's alright.
I have no interest playing on that mickey mouse warmane server.
I'm keep playing arena with my girlfriends, and wait for Corecraft like everyone else.
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>>121238761
Shadowmourne is only too accessible if you accept the existence of private servers where its wotlk for multiple years. There's only so many shadowfrost shards that can drop in a year, especially when heroic and normal share lockouts like they did on retail. On retail you did need to be in a raiding guild in order to get shadowmourne while it was relevant. If you think guilds that only do the bare minimum of normal shouldn't be eligible then you either don't implement the buff or you force heroics into the quest line. Val'anyr didn't require you to sink gold into the Ulduar equivalent of primordial saronites, so there's an extra bar of entry on it. If you were just getting shadows edge 6 months into wrath you could maybe enjoy shadowmourne for a month or two max before Cata got released.
>>121239057
Legendaries that force you to rely on RNG are lame in my opinion. Wildstar got it right with the eldan gauntlet attunement.
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>>121239228
>wait for Corecraft
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