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Hoxton edition

Previous hoxton: >>120729371

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png (embed)

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png (embed)

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png (embed)

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt (embed)

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Shitty Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn (embed)
http://fewes.se/pd2g/
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first for mosconi
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HEY

YOU

GET ON YOUR FEET
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Third for friend Dragan
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>>120927845
FUCK
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>>120927712
Why does OP remind me so much of the TF2 comics?

Were they made by the same person?
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What's with all these animal masks with human names?
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>>120928334
Hotline Miami
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Cop buffs when?
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>>120928334
Humans are the real animals, senpai.
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y/n
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>>120928562
r u an ice climba
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>>120928562
showingpattern/10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuWJ_6vY-AA
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14th for bullet-hoes Clarion
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>>120929247
> 44 acc
Disgusting.
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>>120929247
Good luck hitting anything beyond the length of a rats shack and doing no damage with the bullets that hit.
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SO SHE GRAB BEAR BALL BY BALLS AND PULL, HARD. BALLS TA- Oh, sorry control, was tellin Leeroy about, Russian girls.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCXbUrUjoo
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>>120930565
What did he mean by this?
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>>120930365
where's the vocaroo of the cute girl saying this?
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>>120930565
annoying ass nip
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the incredible liar live!
twitch /rustychains
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>>120931480
>Dat mic quality

Shit, make it together Almir
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Classics heists confirmed to be released in the future for free guys
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>>120932242
It looks like wolf and chains have white shoes
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>>120933313
>released in the future
sure
>for free
haha no
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>>120933313
idgaf, I'd pay a couple of bucks for em on a sale a month later
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>>120933313
>Overkill
>free
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCeBoH3zdl4
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Funny how the Krinkov now completely outclasses a good chunk of the primary ARs, especially with SMG Specialist aced. This thing is a beast.
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>>120934054
>SK aced,
>quadstack mag on a 90 ammo pool smg

Tricky/10
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>>120934452
> sniper stock
Why?
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>>120933313
>Heisters! To celebrate our roots we've released PD:TH maps for free! Inspired by our friends at Valve, to access them you'll need the Payday Crimeathon Pass for only $5.99, you'll receive a free Classic Payday Challenge Coin too! Keep those helmets flying ;)
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>>120934652
Accuracy really. Everything else provides a minor boost to stability(already enough), or concealment(and who cares?).
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>>120934615
Depends on the pickup, doesn't it? I don't know shit about smgs but if it's anywhere close to the ____CAR4____, you'll fill up that ammo in half a mag spent.
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>>120934054
Wtf, you guys were right. It's like jewtube poop that you actually want to listen to.
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Can anybody help me out with a lua that gives you set amount of card drops? Lost it with format and I cant find it anywhere now.
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:^)
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>Almir's Q&A is already over.

Damn that was quick.
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So, what were the highlights from the q&a?
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>>120935468
Krinkov has shit pickup
Micro Uzi has best pickup, micro uzi best smg
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>>120935468
Krinkov ammo pickup eats ass
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thoughts?
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>>120936435
>using rare fuel

l2p shitter
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>>120936725
"um... uh... erm...", almir
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>>120936725
>Classic heists will be added for free,
>Devs are discussing a lot about the COP rewards and how to not make the owners of the dlc disgusted of their 20$ investment but they won't go in detail or give any juicy stuff,
>they'll make sure that the next crimefest/hypetrain rewards are more clear and less cryptic so people don't get hyped for the wrong reasons.
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>>120937445
>>Classic heists will be added for free
After we got "free" microtransactions, I'm not sure if I should believe this.
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>Music was supposed to go full assault even when the vault is opened in stealth

That would be an interesting feature considering how it add some spice to the heist, especially if done in the same manner as Shadow Raid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8OWX85PXA
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>>120938049
You're free to give Overkill more money.
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>>120938049
>free for everyone who owns pd:th
Keep those helmets flying :^)
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>>120938562
Good enough
>not getting pd:th when it was free
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>>120937309
>needing well done with a +1 damage gun skin

:^)
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>>120939202
I did get it when it was free, just thinking of everyone else who didn't
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>>120939730
sucks for them m8
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>The Professional only provides 8 Stability and 8 Accuracy

Why? It's fucking useless. The old 50% Stability and 20% Accuracy would have been fucking great with the overhaul.
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>>120938562
>free as long as you give us 10 bucks
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Any luas that drop safes and shit?
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>>120940132
No and there never will be
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>>120940132
Lua won't do shit. Safe/drill drops are server-side.
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>>120939915
It gave you 50% and 50%, and that would be retardedly OP. SK is already a powerful skill, if you could turn 60-stat guns to 100-stat guns nobody would skip Ghost.
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>>120940382
>>120940256
Okay but if you get a lua that drops you 1000 cards after a game instead of 1, wont that make it drop more often?
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>>120940664
No, dumbass.

Drops have a 5 day cooldown or some shit.
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>>120934958
Accuracy grip + lesser accuracy stock > Sniper Stock that overrides grip

Unless you're going for aesthetics, but since you have a tacticool foregrip, I think a tacticool plastic grip and AR-15 stock wouldn't be out of place, especially for squeezing some more accuracy out of it.
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>>120940816
I've been told you can get 2 of them per 2 weeks, so I thought it would work.
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>>120940545
Oh, I was dumb and mixing up the accuracy bonus with the damage bonus.

Still, nerf them down to 20% Stability and Accuracy and fuck this +8 bullshit.
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Anyone want to overdrill? Need two more
http://steamcommunity.com/id/hiscrunchiness/
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>>120942446
>http://steamcommunity.com/id/hiscrunchiness/
go away nerd
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>>120942637
That's not nice
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>>120939202
This
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>>120942767
Ill join if you carri!

why the fuck is this captha such a fucking piece of shit giving me multiple error shit
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>>120941330
My buddy's gf got two safes in like four heists, a couple of days ago, so I'm more inclined to believe in this than the "max one every 5th day".

Cheater kiddies BTFO however.
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>>120934452
This.
It's god tier weapon. Unlike AR's it can hit things
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>>120943103
>no bogroll
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>>120943297
So if you are saying that you can get it every X card drops then its one lua for it.
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What is the point of going over 5 infamy?
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>>120943280
started already, sorry
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>>120944718
Other than having a rank that doesn't get you insta kicked from certain deathwish lobbies?
Nothing really
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>>120944718
mask
epeen
cheevos
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>>120944718
Experiencing that wonderful feeling of progression and being able to get back on that skinner box treadmill.
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>>120944718
So you don't get kicked by the "X++ ONLY" players.
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>Standing next to elevator
>Suddenly teleported to other side of wall
Thanks Overkill
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>>120946448
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>>120946448
I think a shield swinging through pushed me into the elevator and through the world
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>There are casuals that think payday 2 on Deathwish is hard
>They've never played PDTH
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>>120946857
You can thank DLC and retarded weapon rebalance for that
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>>120946857
>lab rats
;)
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>>120946857
I'd wager that P:THs Hard is equivalent to Payday 2s DW difficulty.

I'd pay quite a lot to see those players try out Heat Street on OK +145.
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>>120946448
>Get to overdrill
>Press first correct tile
>Game crashes

Uh....
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>>120946857
DW PD2 = OVK PDTH
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>>120947290
>Lab Rats on DW
>Just camp underneath the CS barrel/bags
>Run chems during down time
>Only need to do one set before leaving the stage

Wow so hard lmao
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>>120946857
PD:TH's higher difficulties were so boringly hard though. There wasn't a lot of strategy, just optimal weapon choices and map knowledge. The only reason it was "hard" was the immense damage and the shitty gun selection.
Sure, Payday 2 is easier, but I have a ton more fun with it. Whatever, I'm just an anonnymous person on the internet who doesn't like PD:TH very much despite having 150 hours in it.
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>>120947405
>>120947831
You PD2 noobs fucking wish

Heat Street on OVK felt borderline impossible

Not a single Payday 2 comes close to how dick gnashingly hard PDTH was outside of maybe Safe House Nightmare which was a poorly designed shit house map to begin with
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>>120947919
Don't get me wrong, PDTH is a worse game in almost every respect outside of level/stage design. Payday 2 maps aren't memorable or are short and small or just aren't very good.
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>>120947857
shh don't say it
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Okay speaking of difficulty

What map completed on DW in somebodies achievement list would impress you?
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>>120948891
Impress is a little strong.
Loud only alesso or train would get a "cool" from me I guess
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>>120948715
Wheres this from?
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>>120948039
Heat Street felt impossible on pretty much every difficulty.

On another note,
DW is stupidly hard too and relies much on luck with spawns. Well, at least from what I've seen. My team of friends is so stupid they keep downing even on VH (not so much that we wipe though), no matter how much I tell them what skills to build, perks to choose, weapons to equip and how to play, even with voice chat. And playing with pubs or randoms is not really my cup of tea.
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>>120949321
Youre.the.Worst.S01E04.What.Normal.People.Do.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264-BORDERLiNE
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>>120949520
what an ass
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>>120948891
Bomb Forest, Train Heist, and maybe Slaughterhouse right now
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>>120948891
Done Alesso loud DW

>>120950139
Done Slaughterhouse DW
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>>120950139
also done train heist on DW

Is it really that hard?
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>>120950475
the game itself isn't hard mate
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>>120950475
'Hard' compared to other easy shit ass DW heists, yes

I still don't understand how to do Bomb Forest though.
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This game is a challenge even on normal mode. You still have to coordinate with your entire team to take down shields and such. You elitist no lifers calling deathwish easy are just trying to boost your self-esteem by doing something hard and blowing it off like it's nothing.
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>>120952498
I'd have preferred if you bumped the thread with memes rather than bait, but I guess it's something
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>>120952498
th-thanks
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>>120952498
>implying shields even spawn on normal

eat ass, shitter
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Don't forget that if the Overkill team are sad that you don't like microtransactions, that's because it's entirely your fault
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>>120952498
This is the lowest quality bait i've seen in months
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Thready rrerr, frrerrnds.
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>>120952979
So what are the stats on the legendary skins minus stat modifiers anyways? Are they shittier than what's optimally possible for the guns they represent?
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>>120954540
didnt mean to quote >>120952979
sorry f a m
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>>120952979
It is, because we as consumers supported the idea that we like paying for new content when old content hasn't been released.

Also we let them lie to us without complaining in the past
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Come along now
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>>120957316
On the goddamn ground!
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Saferoom Nightmare on Deathwish

Requirements? Tips?

2 Inspire Aced
1 person with HE shotguns to stunlock

Anything else? Medkits required? Are First Aid Kits better in the longrun?

And which primaries should the team have? 3 Thanatos, 1 Shotgun expert?
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>>120957504
Swan Song aced nigga.

FAKS are useless noob lol
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>>120957504
Akimbo pistols with trigger happy and a bunch of ammo, it makes it pretty easy.
RPG helps a bunch too, if you don't shoot teammates that is
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>>120957753
>Trigger Happy
>Literally ever a remotely reasonable choice
>Most of all with akimbos
Anon, you should stop sniffing the glue one of these days
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i just got a triple with nugget
give me presents
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>>120957504
4 people with ictv and inspire using rpgs
also bring 2 med bags and shitload of ammo
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>I want to believe

Overkill confirmed for being aware of the Ayyy lmao meme
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>>120958914
I want to believe is an x-files thing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jvoSnVLo9A
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>>120957504
Just stare at the ground nigga
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>>120961305
doesnt work anymore
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HOW THE FUCK DO I GET THOSE MASKS I ONLY GOT PUMPKIN SO FAR
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>Fully Loaded Epic Win
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>>120962183
Yeah. It's pretty bad.
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>>120962183
czo tam polaku, jak sie hejstuje
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>>120962183
YEAH
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>>120962545
obseruwje cie od dluzszego czasu ale zaraz ide spac i tak
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>tfw overdrill with 3 other grinders
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>>120963004
>See more sight
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https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/comments/3r3e3j/psa_completely_overkill_pack_delayed_again/

wew lad
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>>120963883
It's not just weapon skins at this point, unless Overkill are extremely incompetent twats.

They knew they would be adding more and more skins, so they must have build some kind of structure to be able to add more of them easily. They pumped out four of them in quick succession, and plan to add workshop support for it, so they definitely have a structure for it. But no, they're having issues upon issues adding it, and not just them, but Valve. This just doesn't make sense if it is simply weapon skins.

So what the hell is it?
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>>120957504
3 people should bring thanatos + rpg, one person bring a flamethrower w/ rare/HE shotgun and an rpg

FAKs are shit, bring medkits and ammo.
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Why would I ever need SMGs when the Stryk is a thing?
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>>120963883
I waited more than six months for this, it's not like i can wait a few more weeks at this point.
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>>120963004
>IT LITERALLY CRASHES 10 MINUTES AFTER THIS
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>>120967572
Stryk-chan may be 18 but her polymer body is just too ugly. The other smg are more elegant and classy.
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>>120968127
This is true. But she's fast, can go on all night, and is heavenly to be with if you have the skills to use her.
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>>120933897
>a month later
enjoy not getting the FREE* Community** Event*** Achievement with Safe**** and Drill*****
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>>120962183
>He doesn't like the yeah parts
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rate my crusader

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSPMJFbCDa:eqrokLHIjefCDa:tda:gECda:feDa:ibcdea:pM8::w71-7:s32-39-14-43-5-41-38:
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>>120970103
Thick Skin doesn't work for the ICTV, spend your points else where senpai
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So uh, I guess I'll sound like >that guy, but..

Is there any extremely quick way to farm to V-100 from scratch again? Or any kind of cheat/hack that won't get me banned?
I'm making a new account because reasons, so I'm gonna family share my games to it. Currently enjoying solo playing PD2 again though but it would be a pain in the ass to not really be able to make a full build.
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>>120970834
Pirate perfection
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>>120970103
>crusader
>not using the bows/crossbows
i dont even
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>>120970834
You technically can't get banned for cheating in Payday, neither for editing your money/exp/inventory nor for altering gameplay.
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>>120965150
it was weapon skins, tho

my recollection of the exact timing is a little fuzzy. during crimefest, the COP skins resource file names were leaked on day 3 and some of the code was added in day 4. on day 5, Lone_Wolf and an unnamed Overkill insider posted on /pdg/ about some of the internal discussion about skins and by day 6, all data for COP skins were removed from public update files.
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>>120957504
You can solo it kind of easily, but I did it with 3 retards (singlehandedly guided them, wiped twice).

What do you need? One player with a HE shotgun, AA12 is what I used. Everyone else just goes nuclear with whatever heaviest hitting shit they can afford; Thanatos and RPG for instance.
Camp up in the left room (with all the small walls and the table in the middle). AA12 HE weapon user just stunlocks everything by the doorway, everyone else nukes. Repeat until done drilling, then bumrush out with the loot.
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>>120971310
I see. Is there a program I can use? I've never ever touched CheatEngine because, hell, I normally simply don't cheat.. but it seems to have the most exact options.
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Anyone up for Tabula Rasa?

>inb4 play with bots
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>One and first time only, get past the pyro sequence on Alesso dw stelf
>Vault basement totally empty of guards due to switched pathing
>3 bags left
>decide to off roaming capitol candy guard so he won't sneak up on me
>undetected headshot
>reverse momentum launches him towards me and into camera arc
>43 mins played
brb, becoming an hero
tnx4subscribe
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>>120971671
if you've never touched CheatEngine then its literally not the place to start for what you're trying to accomplish.

learning2lua is much simpler imo and if you can't even accomplish that, then go for something like >>120970937 or any of the other copypasta "hacks"
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>>120971807
get in chat
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>>120972237
Oh..

>>120970937
Ooh.
This was a site. I assumed you wanted me to pirate I game I already own. My bad.

Alright thanks Anons.
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>>120970342
well I guess I get all the points from fugitive back.
10% movement speed isnt worth 6 points
acing die hard and underdog then, since i dont know what else to do with the remaining points
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2 slots left for Tabula Rasa, get in here
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>>120971807
http://steamcommunity.com/id/reNoop/
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>>120973004
>>120972368
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>>120972775
I'd get Shinobi, ace Die Hard or Underdog, and spend the 2 extra points on whatever you want.
ICTV is super slow and you don't have very much stamina, need to walk fast and all.
I dunno, up to preference.
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>>120971807
We need one more
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>>120938562
PDTH is the better game anyway.
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>>120971520

>singlehandedly guided them

Stop posting this and trying to make yourself sound special or some shit. I bet you can singlehandedly jerk 3 dicks off at once too.
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>>120973589
Anon you have no idea what an accomplishment it is to make even one idiot listen in today's online gaming.
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pretty sure it was rare that V-100 sucked dicks
yet all these XXV-100 suck dicks

i dont understand
pic related, me in pub games with all these dick sucking 25s
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>>120975568
God now I have to watch this show again.
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>>120975747
what show is it
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>>120975895
Sakura Trick.
It's a cute little yuri. She doesn't ever actually say that line, but she is gay.
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Para and Krinkov DMR mod when?
Similarly, Beta-C and Drum mags for most ARs and some SMGs, Sniper Stocks for CARs, Drum Mag for the Izhma, actual fucking iron sights for most snipers fucking WHEN?

>>120975568
5-100 is the most optimal level for builds as that is the minimum possible for the bonus to skill trees.
Therefore minmaxing.
Therefore autism.
Therefore they might know what they're doing.
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>finish solo dw laughter haus
>dead meat+not hard enough despite the fact that winters never even spawned
Okay, i guess it wasn't hard enough.
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>>120975568
Because when a shitter cheats, they always put themselves at the top level.

Anyone who has less than 400 hours and is XXV is guaranteed to be a cheater.
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>>120976798
He does spawn, but the icon doesn't show up and you usually don't hear him until you wait a few minutes in the crane area
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>>120978314
Really? I thought Winter never spawns when you play solo.
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Did they forget about escapes?
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deagle / remington or deagle / nagant
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What was all the fuss about Tabula Rasa?

I just soloed it with normal bots, at my first try. It was just like playing PD:TH or something. Muscle perk definitely makes it tho
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so how do I farm skins?
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>>120980881
Your average /vg/ shitter is reliant on a team of 4 bumblefucks spamming inspire at each other.

That said, Tabula Rasa is easier with bots anyway.
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>>120981036

I should have guessed that. But yeah, bots were amazing meat shields. If I can do that without bots I'm done with the game.
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Fucking hell how much HP do bots have
they stand around in suits and absorb hundreds of bullets
does it make up for their not doing any objectives
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>>120981221
> If I can do that without bots I'm done with the game.
It's probably not a matter of if YOU can do it, but rather, if the 3 other braindead protozoans on your team can.
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>>120981751

Payday 2 in a nutshell.
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>>120981429
Depends on difficulty. They regain full health after not being shot for few seconds.
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>>120981036
Tabula rasa requires you not to use any skills or armor.

So no easy-mode meatshield bots or inspire for men!
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Just soloed FWB DW without perks. Am I okay at the game?
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WHAT ARE THESE GUYS, EX MILITARY?
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100% Winters spawn on d2 seems to have made a real dent in the feasibility of Tabula Rasa?
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>>120987224
Nope, you still can use shitton of grenades and ammo from armory.
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>>120987224
Tabula Rasa doesn't stop you from bringing Molotovs, and the map just so happens to have enough elevation so you can throw the thing dead center.
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What was your worst heist, /pdg/?
I did go bank solo overkill and had to lockpick because I didn't have a saw
so I lockpicked every. last. deposit box
and when I loaded every bag into the skyhook, the plane got shot down by the feds
I got arrested and lost about an hour of time and a shit ton of money
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>>120988570
>Got arrested for losing in a video game
Shit, dude.
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>>120988570
>the plane got shot down by the feds

Huh?
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>>120989204
the escape plane can be shot down or crash or some shit, meaning you have to move every bag via the sewers
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>>120986710
Nah, you suck, do it loud with no dlc weapons
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>>120989718
*This doesn't happen with Expert Pilot
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>>120989718
mostly an early game thing when you're too poor to buy assets I guess
still, shit sucks
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>>120988570
Don't have any particular one in mind but i remember regularly having a very shitty time on the 3rd day of framing frame
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>>120989718
Shot down? I've always thought the autist driving it just moved the wrong gear
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>>120990831
I don't know, I remember bain saying something about some AA gun or some shit
really I was more worried with the 50 bags of money that now had to be hauled through the sewers
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>>120988570
>Framing Frame, Day 3, Overkill, about a week after release
>2 AM or some shit
>Abuse the Domination glitch to 'neutralize' all five guards and waltz through the whole heist EZ PZ
>Edge master host says he's going to go kill the dominated guard for some "nothing personnel" reasons
>GUIZ YOU SHOULDA SNEKED DIS, DA GOLD literally 2 steps away from the escape zone
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>>120988570
> DW Bank Heist
> level 40 joins
> Spawns on me in backlot to the side of the camera
> goes up to camera and starts wailing on it with a wad of cash
>Proceeds to shoot the camera before I could kick him
"...And yeah, there goes the alarm"
I have another one of Shawdow Raid and how a level 1 fucks everything up before we get samurai armour to van but I dont feel like typeing
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>>120992274
Why the fuck hasn't Overkill implemented an infamy limit option for people joining yet?

Stupid fuckin scrubs are attracted to DW lobbies like moths to an open flame. I mean, what goes through their minds? "Hey, I'm level 40 and I've done a heist or two, I think I'm ready for the hardest difficulty in the game".

>what goes through their minds?
Scratch that, nothing does.
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>>120992274
>goes up to camera and starts wailing on it with a wad of cash
LODS OF EMONE
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>>120992274
Attempt of corruption on that camera desu
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>Host crashes midway through Overdrill
Fantastic, just fantastic
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are MGs any good yet
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>>120992760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcy45MlI-lA
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>>120993238
The brenner is fanta on enforcer
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>>120993238
MGs are god-tier except for desyncing.
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>>120992738
Since I have an Xbox 360 ver. Of Payday 2 it turns out you can set what levels can join
An example would be lvl 60 or above which is weird why its not on PC
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>>120993238
Yes.
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>>120993413
how bad does desync fuck you
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>>120993616
You can set a level limit on PC, too, but you can't set an infamy limit.

I'd rather take a V-40 than a 90.
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>>120993393
Hahaha wuts dat spell lods omone
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>>120993856
Oh I must be blind then
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>Try a Silent Killer build for the first time after the rebalance
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>Doing entrapment
>been going at it for weeks, because i suck at stealth
>finally get bags to the van, and before I escape I realize I miscounted
>I manage to get back to the vault, but only gold is left
>I somehow manage to bring it to the van, escape, and get the achieve
>I get a crimefest 2 drill as a card drop
That was the most nerve wracking achievement I've ever done in this game, holy shit. My hands are shaking. And a fucking drill to top it off, god damn.

Should I open the safe and see if I get lucky a third time?
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>>120993784
It generally means you're 100% fucked if you get cloaked, tased, or otherwise downed, since nobody can help you up. Also, you'll look like you're in places you're not, which can fuck over your coordination with your teammates.

I think desyncing can sometimes be beneficial since enemies won't target you, but I'm not sure on the specifics of that. I think it differs if you're a host vs a client.
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>>120994196
that's only due to bipods, right
are bipods necessary for good mgs or can you use them like every other gun
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>>120993238
>RPK and Brenner pickup a minimum of 8 rounds
>The KSPs pickup a minimum of 10 rounds
>MG3 has a minimum pickup of 12

Yeah, they are pretty okay.
And they definitely seem to have fixed the desync issue the other guy was whining about. I was using the Bipod all yesterday and didn't have any issues like enemies forgetting about me or teammates being unable to revive me.
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>Had some friend tell me fugitive is a clowny class that's not really of any use
>I like pistols so i do my own concoction of mastermind, ghost, fugitive and the grinder deck
>I'm absolutely invincible, even when i fall i have 12 seconds to kill absolutely everything in the room
>Kill bulldozers with like 20 bullets under 2 seconds
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>>120994357
Yes.

Bipods are a large part of what make MGs good, yeah. Without it, they're decent close-range room clearers, but that's about it.

>>120994498
>And they definitely seem to have fixed the desync issue the other guy was whining about.
I'm not really "whining", I'm just pointing out that it's been a problem.

I still see people desync, so I don't think it's entirely fixed yet.
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>>120994542
post skill tree
deagles?
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>>120994842
It's not even done yet but i use the .45s for the akimbo and the crosskill as a secondary
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Is it me or do drills jam less often in PDTH?
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>>120995575
hehe...just get aced hardware expert, goy...only 4 shekels! you'll never notice a thing...hehe
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>beat Lab Rats DW first try with pubs
>take 4 tries with dedicated crew
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Fuck me, we needed those cooks....I'm going with Caustic Soda.
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>>120997656
you got carried
it's ok
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Fuck me, we needed those cooks....I'm going with Muriatic Acid.
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Fuck me, uhhh...I'm 63.14% sure we needed those cooks...I'm 98.34% it's hydrogen chloride...wait, I'm 1.66% sure that wasn't it! I'm 49.53% sure it's actually caustic soda.
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>>120994357
The brenner has a high enough accuracy to kill snipers with 2-3 bursts w/o the bipod. The bipod isn't needed exactly if you compensate for the recoil, but it helps a lot.
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>>120988570
In recent memory
>doing FF DW day 3 for kicks, helping a newb friend grind to 100 in his infamy
>me and him are on stealth duty
>3rd guy is decent but reckless as hell and got caught like 4 times in a row, relegated to bitch tasks (eg. opening/closing the safe, running body bags up)
>4th guy is a 0 infamy trash but an alright guy so I let him leech off of us, so long as he does what he's told and stays on cams for us
>he's waaay too eager to try and pitch in, even though cams are important
>always trying to butt in and help us with whatever we're doing, dropping the cams
>every couple of minutes he'd chime up about wanting to help out, but we were very adamant about the importance of cameras and why he should be the camera bitch
>always ends up doing something stupid which nearly gets us caught, wastes a pager or gets us straight caught
>between me and my friend not being too great at stealth, but our current run is going great
>no pagers down when the coke is dropped
>4th guy 'oh do you guys need help moving all these bags?'
>nah bro we need you on cams, safer with just us 2 running bags
>takes a while cos guard in front of bookcase
>suddenly 2 !'s show up, on top floor
>what the fuuuuuck
>4th started a fucking bag train on the roof, which the two cops saw
>fucking idiot, we told you to stay on cams
>'oh sorry i just wanted to help'
>we manage to do the rest of the coke, start going for gold
>we only manage to bag a few of the bags before gunshots on the roof
>!!!!!! heist is fucking done
>what the hell happened?
>fuck it, us 3 just grab a bag each and ECM rush the escape
>get to the roof, 4th is just standing there getting shot by the cop
>this dumb asshole tried to come down and help us again, got seen on the roof
>we put the 3 bags in, only a few seconds left on my ECM
>we're all at the escape
>except 4th, who went down for another bag
>barely manage to kick him as my ECM wears off and calls start
Fuck this shit game
Support my blog on Patreon btw
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YEAH
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>tfw you do a FWB Overdrill with pubs and it works out perfectly, not once being in danger of shit getting fucked up
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>tfw no standalone pocorose
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>>121002907
>download pocohud
>turn off all the features except pocorose
Enjoy haxhud I guess
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>>120988570
>firestarter day 2
>going for guessing game
>doing it solo
>after 2 hours of trying to do it, I finally reach the server and am transporting it to the van
>guard notices the server door is open
>I have no pagers and one ecm
>drop the ecm, and book it to the van as fast as I can with the server
I don't make it
I've never attempted it since, even though I'm at 95% of the achieves and I'm gunning for 100% because PTSD
This was about 300 hours of PD2 ago
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>>121003103
but I am using PocoHud right now
I just don't want the thing running all the time considering it's a persistent script
I know someone from here made a standalone version
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>>120998287
>>120997927
Daily reminder that the new cooking lines for Bain didn't made the game harder, just more annoying since it forces you to wait for the second part of his speech to confirm the ingredient needed.
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>>121002416
Overdrill is 70% standing around doing nothing, so it's not all that surprising that pubs can handle it

The problem is when some chucklefuck screws up the tile puzzle, or is too stupid to figure out the positioning that spawns the overdrill.
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>>121003294
I disagree
Puzzle and positioning are easy as fuck
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>>121003470
I never said it was hard.
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>>121003132
Aw buddy
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>>121003289
I agree, I think the new lines are fucking dumb. I honestly thought they were a joke at first (I first heard them in Lab Rats), but then I heard them in Cook Off.

In the old lines, it sounded like Bain was genuinely trying to figure shit out under pressure. Now, he just sounds like some goofy retard. Plus, the whole "I'm XX% sure!" thing comes off as an obnoxious forced joke to me.

I mean, at least the new lines rely a little more on listening skills than on memorizing the few incorrect/ambiguous responses, but I still prefer the older ones.

>just more annoying since it forces you to wait for the second part of his speech to confirm the ingredient needed.
This is aggravating as fuck, too. Maybe it's just in my head, though, but I feel like meth cooks a lot faster now to make up for it.
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>>120988570
>Watch Dogs OVK day 3, shortly after release
>everyone else is either down or in custody but escape is ready, so I go for it
>I'm at full health and am not swarmed
>shield pushes me into a shipping crate, I'm stuck
>host leaves
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>>121004391
>Watch Dogs
>Day 3
Besides that, I'm surprised anyone actually fails that one on OVK. Where'd it all get fucked up?
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>>121005003
sniper pack
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