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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ-VnkqATaU
>>345337830
I finally just beat this shit. That ending was such a letdown. Really? Cheaping out on the epilogue? Couldn't have them standing around talking a bit? Had to read online to know I have to go back in to read the epilogue files. No D team epilogue withhappy family snuggly fun time.
Threadly reminder thatDiana is used goods and Phi is the daughter or a whore.
>>345338619
Why would anyone want event more badly written romance? Junpei and Akane getting married is bad enough.
Diana is a bad drunk and a whore, end of story.
>>345338619
I'm extremely disappointed that familial relation was barely addressed by the characters. You'd think we'd get more than a hug and then have it just ignored entirely afterwards
>>345338854
>sigma got cucked before Junpei
The real plot twist of ZTD
>>345338619
Fuck that, where is my Carlos 2 epilogue?
>tfw she wants thehorizontal tango
So we're all more disappointed than anything else right?
>>345339381
We can fill the empty void in our hearts with memes
>>345339381
That was my immediate response to it, as time passes I'm becoming more fond of it though. There's a lot of bad things about it but there's also a unique charm to its dumbness compared to the others and the characters are growing on me.
>>345339381
I'm content. I wanted to see what caused VLR to occur, how Diana and Sigma fell in love, wanted to see Junpei and Akane sort their shit, and wanted to finally see the leader of free the soul. I think everyone can agree that turning the game into cutscenes was a silly choice, but it wasn't a bad game. Maybe not as good as 999 or VLR but still on that same bracket.
>>345339651
This. When I first beat it, I was incredibly disappointed and wondered what the hell happened. But now I embrace the ridiculousness of it.
I mean, VLR was may more ridiculous than 999. So ZTD just takes it even further.
Did Zero Escape get the idea for the "virus that kills off most of humanity so people have to travel back in time to stop it" plot from 12 Monkeys?
>>345339381
>old laptop died right after finishing the game
>game sucked
I wish ZE 3 was never made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s29frJFlMpo
>>345339381
Yeah.Kyle is my favorite character so this was probably an even bigger disappointment for me than most.
>tfw you can post about remember11 again and nobody gets upset
incidentally couldn't someone just go fix all the shitty english in ever17 by editing and distributing the script file since that's how the "typo fix" worked
So who'sthe terrorist that radical 6 was released to kill?Seriously they couldn't just find the guy with the magic powers instead of killing 6 billion people?
>>345341963
That will be answered in the fourth game, please look forward to it!
>>345341963
He's got to have some kind of new morphogenetic power that makes it impossible for Delta to find him
>>345342142
But Delta has an army of Seanbots with shifting capabilities. It makes no fucking sense.
>>345342142MINDPROXY
>>345340675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9QQjrKs4nM
>>345342292
I thought only his main seanbot could shift, the others seemed just like janitors.
>>345341213
https://mega.nz/#!c5g0zLQD!FyOa4Pm9_nzPla2KU9HO5fY-sV2757BCKWS2fc8fXJQ
this comes with 360 voices, OST and SFX, and the script fix
>>345342512
What's stopping him from making more? He could've copy pasted the AI, use the ayylien machine, or build another from scratch, the guy is filthy rich.
You're all shitters
Why isLotusso perfect
>>345343015
We've gone off-topic.
>>345343120
I already told you.
Is zetsubou a concurring element in this series?
>>345339651
Seriously, what's with Maria always being this random female in games? SA2, Gears of War 2, and now ZTD. I'm sure there's a few others out there.
>>345342128
Correct! Who's excited for ZE4?
>>345342403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GveSKpeanh8
>>345342840
He needed to recreate the conditions of his birth first and foremost. Maybe he thought he could kill multiple birds with one stone by using radical-6 as a stopgap measure while training up the Shifters.
>>345342672
That's not what I'm saying
a "typo fix" exists for ever17, and it removes one glaring spoiler from way before you should be told about it, but despite that ever17's script quality is overall very low and could use further editing
what I'm asking is if that's possible to do simply by editing the text directly or if there are call signs in the script that need to be handled
>>345343347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNS8Ah139Y
>>345343328
ZE4
pls no.
I love Diana even with her imperfections. Stranded ending was best ending.
>>345343606
I'm all for seeing how far this series can fall.
>>345343808
It was definitely my favorite timeline in the game.
ZTD was much shorter than VLR. But I liked the cutscenes aspect. Prefer it over reading text. And japanese voice cast was great.
>>345344072
>>345343808
Jesus that shit was heartbreaking.
>That was the last one, Gab...Thanks for everything.
So I just finished the time line that leads to VLR, and used the password zero said to open the force quit box, but I'm stuck, I don't know where to go from here
Help
>>345343383
He only needed to have Diana and Sigma fuck in a similar situation. And even then, why go through all the trouble of training the shifters when you can build your own? It makes no fucking sense.
Fine, be anal about it, make R6 and create VLR timeline, tho I'm sure future Sigma is not needed, organize ZTD, have them fuck, and call it a day.
Akane and company are not even looking for the fanatic at the ending . Crash keys couldn't even find FtS headquarters or Delta's identity, but now I'm supposed to believe they'll succeed in finding the fanatic whereabouts? Fuck that.
>>345344438
You should have an unlocked Q fragment. Did you finish everything after opening the door of truth?
Snake is the terrorist. He probably decides to kill the world when Clover dies. (Just remember how he reacted in 999).
In VLR clover says everyone says he's in a cult, and this is never brought up again.
I'm going to marry Carlos!
>>345344438
When you look at your timeline do you have all the executions unlocked?
>>345344663
The only thing I might have not done yet is the force quit box section of Q, and I don't know if I missed the code or not
Everything else is done
>>345343606
I made that picture as a joke. Will it become reality?
Background is from the wiki: Q&A section
>>345345132
Just Q teams, I tried more than once to get the other executions, is that another one of the random elements in this game?
>>345342403
oh look, it's Diana's theme
>>345345137
You should have gotten the passcode in Q-end 2 then.
>>345345283
>>345344005I just want to complain, but I actually want more ZE.
>>345345324
I wouldn't say it's random, the game acknowledges the choices you have made beforehand on a timeline. So just go through the voting phase in the beginning of the game again, even if you already went through both choices for each.
>>345345324
The game remembers what everyone voted, so you have to have at least 2 teams set to vote for whichever team you want to execute.
>>345343443
the script fix is the typo fix
and yes, I think the script is easy as fuck to edit
>>345337830
>the art progressively gets worse from left to right
Did D.C. Douglas have fun voicing the most memeworthy character in the game?
>>345339381
ZTD was ok but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't somewhat disappointing.
/r/ the pic with june looking at seven when he says "zero might be watching us right now"
>>345344778
It would make sense.
Or maybe we're hearing nothing about kyle because he's the terrorist. There's no fucking way they'd forget about Kyle like this if there wasn't going to be a 4th.
>sigma calls junpei "Tenmyouji" in the beginning of the game
>he calls him junpei when they're reunited at the end
They dropped the ball.
>>345346490
NTR doujins when!? I'll settle for some suggestive fan art.
>>345346292
Switching out the artist for ZTD was a big mistake.
I wonder if shit like this has ever happened in real life, people being kidnapped and force to make decisions that can kill other people just to escape themselves
Shit would be prettyfunto watch
>>345346408
He must've loved calling people shitters.
>>345338619
>spoiler
I gotchu Phamily
>>345346762
Thanks a lot.
"My motives are complex" is japanese for "The writers just decided that everything that happened somehow obliquely serves my goals."
>>345346618
The beginning also had most of the fun banter between characters that's completely missing later in the game.
>>345346836
Death game setting seems to be a popular genre. You can check out the SAW movies. Or Danganronpa. Or Euphoria.
>>345347234
>SAW movies
First movie was okay I guess
>Danganronpa
It's shit.
>Euphoria
Pretty good.
>Sean's helmet reveal is that he's a robot and has a plug instead of a head
>not that he's a Left clone , takes his helmet off in front of Sigma and Phi and says "It was me, Dio!"
life is simply unfair
my robo-son can't possibly be this cute!
>>345345137
Let the clock run out when Eric asks who killed Mira.
>>345346996
>no Delta
>>345347806
Delta can't jump, retard.
>>345347806
he's just outside the field of view the whole time :^)
>>345347551
WasDeltaa pedophile that diddliedSean'sfiddly?
>>345347806
Delta was in Q-team
IT'S ALL AN ALLEGORY FOR CHRISTIANITY
THE FATHER, THE SEAN, AND THE ROLLY GHOST
>>345348048
This will be revealed in the fourth game. Please look forward to it!
>>345348178
finally, someone has begun to grasp the inner complexities of my motives...
>>345347462
Eh, Dangans is better than 999/ZTD
>>345347964
underrated
>>345348513
As long as you pretend Ultra Despair Girls doesn't exist.
>>345348513
this bait is... too complex for me...
>>345348513
As long as you pretend Junko doesn't exist.
>>345348513
if anything, Zero Jr., the post-apoc setting twist and Clover 2.0 make VLR the closest to Dangitronpaul
>>345347964
>>345348547
Oh fuck, clever
Should I make a video review of ZTD? Game has a shitton of problems that I hope Uchi fixes in his next game, but all the game reviewers gave ZTD 10/10s and 9/10s, which is fucking baffling to me and probably gave him the impression that ZTD is on par with the rest of the series. Hope a video rightfully critical of the game would reach Uchi's ears and influence his future games.
>>345349070
There is no way Uchi doesn't know exactly what's wrong with the game. He's not stupid. But budget wasn't enough to make it good.
>>345349070
if you have good video editing skills and a tolerable voice, then go right ahead
>>345349228
Because he blew it on shitty animations and weeb bait aka seiyuus.
>>345349413
The animations were cheaper than doing it 2D. And less narration meant less writing, which was also cheaper.
>>345348643
I will pretend DR2 and Shootanronpa don't exist to make that statement.
>>345348513
>comparing apples to oranges
One is about the near biblical scale war between Hope and Despair, while the other is about a massive bootstrap paradox and pseudoscience. The only thing they have in common are closed environments the characters need to escape from in order to survive.
>>345339381
Yes
Idiots on Steam just gobble it up
Q&A never ever.I'm surprised you guys are still shitposting about this game
>>345349228
I'm worried he has his head up his own ass desu
>ZTD? No idea what that is, but I liked Danganronpa. Guess I'll give it a pirate
>They're referring to a lot of things ouside of the game. Is this a sequel?
>Oh, it is. And the other games are on handheld. Whatever, this pulp fiction timey wimey shit is probably more fun without knowing what the fuck's going on. I'll keep playing
>Yeah, I'm digging it. You have to glean information from multiple timelines in order to get the happy end.
>Aw shit, you have to enter your own children's birthday from a timeline you split from but never knew. Are there more bittersweet twists to look forward to?
>Oh... the mastermind was a guy that was always hanging around and just always out of frame?
>Oh, everything he's saying is stupid and/or plays into a blatant causal loop
>Oh...
Are the first two games worth playing at all? The room escape puzzles were pretty fun, but in retrospect, I would have liked if they were more than 1/10 the game's 'playtime.'
>>345342512
I'm pretty sure Sean is capable of controlling any of the Seanbots since his mind isn't actually in the robot. The robot doesn't shift, and what he does isn't exactly shifting anyway.
>>345351315
>playing a story based series out of order
>being this much of a casual faggot
Are you fucking retarded?
>>345351524
>VN's
>anything but casual
Story made sense anyway, and I enjoyed it up to the final act.
>>345351315
congrats you just spoiled two fantastic and beloved games because you played them out-of-order like a casual.
>>345351760
I really don't care about doing them in order.
>>345351315
The other two are better yeah. The room escape segments in the second game take up less of the total playtime though. There's still more of them than in ZTD though, I think. The first game probably has the highest escape:story ratio, but mostly because you can't skip ones you've already done on different routes
>>345351713
>even newcomers are disappointed by the finale
Thanks Uchikoshi.
Anyway, go play the other two games too. 999 has great atmosphere and VLR the best puzzles in the series.
>>345351945
You will when you play the first two games and realized how much you fucked yourself.
>>345351945
wew lad here i thought i couldn't get angry anymore
>>345351315
You kind of fucked up. ZTD is the worst in the series, the other two games are miles better but not sure how it will be for you, because you've been spoiled by this game.
As for puzzles... the pacing in the other games is different, they are visual novels, so there is a lot of reading (the second game is around 28 hours, but has almost the same amount of puzzles, although they are much harder), but it's mostly escape room->visual novel part->escape room, there isn't a part like in ZTD when the last 5 hours of the game are cutscenes only.
>>345351315
What >>345351760 said. You're an idiot along with whatever high-up said that ZTD had to be marketed towards new players.
>>345351945
this is why putting ZTD on PC was a mistake
>>345351315
>>Oh, everything he's saying is stupid and/or plays into a blatant causal loop
It doesn't, the transporter sends someone to a root timeline, not a specific branch
>>345352249
So with the giant button, the reactor, and the Force Quit Box, the shelter had three separate self destruct mechanisms
>>345351760
He also spoiled 999 and VLR, which are not fantastic at all.
>>345353063
>having shit tastes
>>345353063
You're right, they're even better than that. I'm not sure what adjective ranks higher than fantastic though
>>345353063
This bait is...complex
>>345352821
Yes, which is why it's a causal loop. Delta facilitates his own existence. Pretty textbook example.
>>345353351
so what?
>>345353441
>calling this a general
>when these threads are gonna be dead in a week or so
>>345353696
you faggots said that two weeks ago
>>>/vg/
no topic = general
>>345353492
It's a logical paradox.
>>345354137
a paradox doesn't mean it's wrong
google bootstrap paradox
our neurons can't compute backwards in time, so stuff seems illogical to us that isn't
>>345353441
Go back to your hourly New Vegas thread
>>345352978
I don't think the reactor was ever meant to go off. It's just Akane lol let's just shift because rules are for fags. Which was a pretty great moment imo 'cause she basically broke the game.
>>345353441
Why do you care, you bloody autist
>>345353351
>>345353492
>>345354137
>>345354242
Delta facilitating his own birth is a basic bootstrap paradox, but it's internally consistent, so there's no really issue with it.
Phi's brooch coming from Diana DOES present an issue, as it is essentially the same object when it trades hands everytime, and as such there's no way it should be able to last without deteriorating. The transporter copies things exactly, including their physical condition, meaning the brooch will end up going through literally countless timelines, and eventually it would crumble to dust.
>>345348904
Will Sigma still make Luna even though he doesn't have to anymore? Will Diana be okay with him making a sex bot in her image that doesn't age or get fat?
Is Phi basically Lucina 2.0?
>>345339381
no, the ride was too wild for that.
>>345354990
Nah we only saw the first time it got sent back
:^)
>>345354990
>Phi's brooch coming from Diana DOES present an issue
2008 Phi could have gotten a replica from 1904 Phi.
>>345355051
>Is Phi basically Lucina 2.0?
I could get behind that.
>>345354990
It survived being incinerated without so much as a scratch, maybe it's just legitimately impervious by it's very nature of being something not made by man.
>>345354417
Akane saying "Screw the rules, I have shifting" was pretty fun. The way it was handled opened up so many problems though.
Firstly, she apparantly neglects to do this under any other circumstance, despite being apparantly able to at any point in the game. She even explained that she's used to shifting so much, so she doesn't just forget stuff - so we know she wouldn't have forgotten having shifted.
Secondly, she explains that the other self essentially swaps places with you, despite us seeing very differently that the conciousness didn't swap places directly but instead were all shifted around different points in time with Sigma in VLR.
Thirdly, when she brings it up she explains that it could be seen as a form of murder, killing the self that swaps places with you. She then forces them to jump, essentially saying the ends justify the means. Junpei then has NO problem with immediately fucking over 2 of his other selves and one of Carlos's and Akane's, and then Carlos has no problem fucking over two of his other selves afterwards as well. And then all of a sudden, the final decision is supposed to be about whether or not it's to shift everyone's other selves into the current certain death situation, despite every Shifter but Diana having consciously done it with absolutely no problem several to millions of times throughout the series.
This isn't even counting the issues it created with the other characters, such as how Junpei magically became a shifting expert when he hadn't been able to access to morphogenic field since 999, or how he even knew the dice rolling decision (which is on a separate timeline branch) even existed when he, again, hadn't been able to even access to morphogenic field until just before he shifted the first time.
So yeah, it was a fun character moment, but not a good story one. But then, I guess a lot of ZTD can be summed up as that.
>>345355228
That doesn't change the fact that the brooch is continuing to age and should eventually turn to dust - no matter where it gets replicated, it's age doesn't decrease.
>>345356974
"Aliens did it" is probably the only valid explanation for that.
It's also by far and away the worst, but we already have an alien time traveling fax machine, so why stop our suspension of disbelief there, I guess?
>>345357538
I didn't mean replicated with the transporter. I meant replicated by a jeweler.
>>345347551
Sean was too sweet. I thought he would be annoying but I wound up wanting to protect him from all the bad shit going on. I have to wonder if going through horrible murder games and dying in a bunch of timelines was part of whatever deal he made with the original Sean and why the fuck it would be but I'm sure the answer is complicated.
>>345357857
With the exact same insignia and scratch marks?
>>345357857
I'd buy that theory more than "alien's did it".
Even though the alien's theory actually has more weight to it, however retarded it is.
>>345357538
I wasn't thinking aliens when I said "not made by man", just that it has no origins and is more of a concept sprung from the universe that defies explanation, so expecting its physical properties to match a normal brooch might be mistaken.
>>345359348
The insignia sure. Scratch marks will come naturally over time, the whole thing being in a causal loop.
Or do you prefer alien material that doesn't deteriorate over time but somehow has scratch marks?
I know that a lot of people usually dislike filters and added effects, but I don't know...I kind of wish the game looked more like it did in the opening. It's kind of gaudy looking otherwise.
Time to decipress the button.
>>345359895
No, I like your idea a lot better now.
I mean, the fact that the situation exists is Uchi's fault for being bullshit, but at least we can have plausible explanations for some shit.
>>345361192
>this image ended up being true after all
kek
>>345361327
I thought it was confirmed in VLR
Did Jumpy ended up fucking Kanny in ZTD?
Wow I can't wait for the 4th game
There are few things in gaming that will make me as mad as Kyle getting completely fucking dropped.
Brother being adopted is one of them. There is NOTHING to even hint towards this, or even it's relevance, in the entirety of VLR. We also don't get any sort of hint about this until Zero name drops himself as Brother and Delta one after the other to Akane, at which point it's not even hinted at but is just randomly thrown in and is literally the only explanation.I'm almost positive that Brother and Delta were combined into one person when Uchi realized he didn't have the budget for one more model. At least Brother wasn't cut, like Kyle
>>345362435
He got her an ugly ring that looks like it came out of a cracker jack box. Thought it would have some sentimental value since he kept holding onto it. But nope it's just a ring that he brought into dcom intending to propose to her the moment he saw her I guess. Putting it on the wrong hand was cute.Too bad that ending was fucked.
Gotdang, Sigma has some nice tits.
>>345363010
>Eric ogling Diana's ass
>>345362435
Jumpy fucked Kanny's cunny post ZTD.
Sigma fucking plowed Diana in an alien fax machine after pimp slapping her.
Eric does the horizontal tango with Mira vertically through iron bars.
>>345362802
There are a lot of hints before Zero says it outright. Besides, it makes sense as soon as Delta is first introduced.
>>345360252
That's a long fucking minute.
>>345353441
>filter ztd and dilemma
>the one and second thread to transition to are gone
Complain about overmeme and pokemon faggot
>>345363209
>There's a lot of hints about Brother being adopted
Like fucking what? And why there a fucking inkling about this in VLR, despite Akane knowing about it?There's tons of hints about Delta being Zero, but not so much about Brother being Delta. Aside from the reveal about Brother being Delta, which isn't a hint since adoption must be a fact at that point, where's the hints that point towards adoption?
>>345363182
>alien fax machine
Wonder what would happen to a human going through the fax if the power was disconnected halfway through.
>>345360252
On the one where Diana pushes the acid shower button, why did she freak out and act possessed and run back inside after sig and phi got on the elevator? Was it Zero's mind hax? The one with carlos staying behind was heneeded a body to jump into.Seanjust didn't want to leave Gab. But I don't think they mentioned Diana's reason. And then Zero's berating her for faking insanity.
>>345363873
Funny thing is when Akane and Junpei use the fax machine, Carlos accidentallly kills them when he throws the robot causing the big explosion. I guess he didn't realize their bodies are still in the pods and only copies got sent over.
>>345364243
Now that I think about it, yeah, you're right. They would have fried.
You win some and you lose some I guess.
>>345364015
>Diana staying behind
We're supposed to believe it's his mind hacking, though like you said, all that does is make Zero a fucking asshole.
>Carlos staying behind because reasons
You got this right.
>Seanstays behind cause Gab
Actually, that's not quite right. He stays behind because of Q. Pic related.And yes, that ENTIRE Q TWIST was very poorly handled and completely unnecessary, as we learned from C-Team's force-quit box fragment that he definitely doesn't need to be that close to anyone to mind hack them, merely being in the shelter was plenty.
>>345363010
I prefer Carlos's. He's at least showing them off.
>>345364943
>off screen
Erryfuckingtiem
>>345364243
>>345364694
For every 10 things the game gets wrong or does poorly, it does 1 thing right.
It just so happens that nearly all of the things done right revolve around Team-C, and usually specifically Carlos.
He is easily the best character of the game.
>>345365621
I don't know!
I. don't. know!
What are the names i can put in the Mexican standoff on the Q team?
I've doneEric, Mira, Deltabut I don't have any idea what to put for the 4th ending
>>345366057
Nobody
>>345366057
No one
>>345366057
Kyle
>>345366057
"Nobody" will do it.
It's a pretty bullshit ending though. Not worth it really.
>>345366057
No one.
And then you all die anyways.
>>345366490
No.Sean dies and then Eric does because Mira rips his heart out. I'm guessing Delta lives. Who knows. That grenade launcher should have killed all 4 of them.
>>345366831Delta dies, otherwise Mira and Eric wouldn'tget HIS X-Pass.
>>345366831
Yes.Q dies since you get the X-Pass
>Who killed Junpei?
>try putting in Inubushi and Keiko
Why the fuck do these people use zinger ringers? Fucking obnoxious
>>345367048
>>345367254
My bad.
>>345366831
Yeah no kidding. It either should have killed them all or shouldn't have armed at all because of the close range. What were you thinking Eric.
>>345347067
>Carlos and Siggy ruining Junpei
Yes. Absolutely perfect and beyond.
>>345366831
That was the most complex grenade I've seen in a video game. It launches, and then just plops to the floor instead of dinking into sean's face, and then has ample time left for eric and mira to climb the stairs.
I guess Uchi needed eric to fire a weapon that would wipe out Q at the same time, but this really wasn't a way to do it.
So which stage of grief are you?
I finally reached acceptance and accepted the fact that the ending was botched and will forever stay that way, so all I can do now is move on.
>>345368941
Look at the bright side.
It isn't as botched as ZE4 will be.
>>345368941
I am glad ZTD happened because it pushed me into playing other VN and games which are much much better.
ZE truly is babby's first VN series
>>345368941
I literally just finished this game, and within the span of 10 minutes I went through denial, anger, and bargaining, and am at depression right now
Should be a few minutes before I reach acceptance
Is Junpei knowing about the alternate dice rolling history a plot hole?
How the flying fuck does Carlos know how to work the machine perfectly when Sigma said he had no idea how to read any of it?
Why the hell does Zero mindhack Diana back into the complex other than to taunt the fuck out of her?
How does Zero mindhack Diana into not drinking the antidote when he's fucking dead in that timeline?
Why the balls would Diana bring Phi out into the world with Radical-6 when a rescue AND quarantine party could easily have been sent back not even a day later, therefore not killing 6 fucking billion people for absolutely no good reason?
Why does Zero try and say "I didn't ask Mira to kill anyone, so I'm not responsible for this" when he created a puzzle that required Mira to chop Junpei up into bits and pieces?
Why is shifting suddenly a huge moral dilemma at the end of the game when everyone's been doing it willy nilly throughout the whole game without a second thought?Not that it fucking matters, since you instantly get a game over if you don't fuck over the other selves.Does Eric have a shotgun magnet in his fucking hands or something?
>>345369554M I N D H A C K
>>345369123
>google image search
>no uncropped picture
wow
>>345369554
One or combination of these:>too complex for you>Mind Hack>Ayy Lmao>meme field
>>345369554
>Puzzle that required Mira to chop up Junpei into bits and pieces
I don't remember this, did I miss something?
>>345368941
I've realized I've shifted to the wrong timeline and am looking for a way out.
>>345369513
>Should be a few minutes before I reach acceptance
Allow me to draw that out for a few more minutes.
>Kyle never ever
>New Left never ever
>Phi being important never ever
>Real moral dilemmas never ever
>Radical-6 mattering never ever
>Aliens
>Adoption
>10th player
>Mindhacks
>2 complex motives
>>345369881
>wow
Sorry about that. Here.
>>345369887
yes
>>345364015
I interpreted it that she really did get mind hacked to press the button but upon realizing the consequences she would have to face if she went outside, she faked it also controlling her to stay behind, basically drumming it up as much as possible.
>>345369887
Remember the puzzle with the body parts? The one where Junpei was missing and you were just controlling Carlos and Akane, and then you find his head in the freezer, and then Akane loses her fucking mind?
Those were ACTUALLY Junpei's body parts. His arms were needed for the codes - you even needed to heat up one of his hands in a microwave to open it up and read the code on it.
>>345369554
>Why does Zero try and say "I didn't ask Mira to kill anyone, so I'm not responsible for this" when he created a puzzle that required Mira to chop Junpei up into bits and pieces?
There was no puzzle about this was there? I don't really get how she did it. Did she have full reign to walk around when everyone else slept? That how she killed D team in that one history? Figured she chopped Junpei up in the pod.
>How does Zero mindhack Diana into not drinking the antidote when he's fucking dead in that timeline?
I think that's just attributed to Diana stupidity. I think we can safely say the 13:30 vote and acid shower vote were mind hacks though since she said she dindu nuffin.
>>345370279
We know about that puzzle. The way the other anon said it, thought he meant Mira had to solve a puzzle by cutting up Junpei.
>>345369554
he can mind hack through cameras and quantum computers
>>345370279
I know about that puzzle, but I thought there was a puzzle that was needed to be solved and required killing/cutting up Junpei and I didn't see it
I know Zero mentioned thathe let her walk around while others where asleepand that's when he died
>>345370330
Seriously though, what was the point of the poison? Nothing even happens as a result of it, no actual new branches are created or anything. Why did he bother?
>>345369993
on the plus side, we got carlos and a reaction image goldmine
This picture is from the zero escape wiki.
Is that some kind of joke?
>>345370464
>>345370330
I don't think anon's asking about how Mira killed Junpei. Rather, that it's disingenuous of Zero to say he never intended to kill anyone when there was a puzzle room designed around collecting the body parts of a deceased party member.
>>345370759
Anyone have the "Keep Bullshitting?" Decision Game edit of this screen?
>>345370873
Still my favorite scene
>>345370947
Have you seen their page on The Snail?
>>345369498
I can't think of any non-Uchi VNs or games that are of a similar nature that I might get turned on to from this.
>>345370330
>>345370464
>>345370770
You guys are right, it was worded wrong, but it's still a solid point. Zero tells Akane and Carlos that he's not responsible for Junpei getting cut up, even though Zero needed Mira to cut Junpei up so that he could set up Akane's and Carlos's puzzle.
>345370527
He can't mindhack through quantum computers, he very explicitly says that he can only mind hack people who are present in the timeline he's in.
I mean, there's the possibility that the entire game was viewed threw the eyes of Delta at the Final End, but that just seems like a cop out.
>>345370759
>>345371061
You aren't missing much. It's just a picture of Alice scissoring Clover while Luna and Phi watch.
>>345371117
kek that picture
>>345371117
I have now.It is great
>>345339291
Any porn of eric yet?
>>345371291
>but that just seems like a cop out
And that's everyone's reaction to the whole of ZTD.
>>345371291
he laso says he is interested in human decisions and then mind hacks people to force them to decide
so what he says doesn't actually matter
>>345371703
I actually didn't catch that.
Jesus fuck Uchi.
>>345371438
>Phi's face
Must've done a lot of drugs to get a face like that.
>>345370947
>zero escape wiki
I want to like the ZE wiki but fuck the main admin. He micromanages every little detail.
So how many complex motives areDelta'seyes behind?
>>345371817
She did raise herself.
999 REMAKE WHEN
>>345372153
Coming Winter 2016
>>345371941
>I want to like the ZE Wiki
Why on earth?
Clover's page had 4 fucking pages of information on a potential mental illness some fans thought she could have, all because she broke during the axe ending after her only brother died. It got cut down to 4 paragraphs because everyone bitched at the main admin that it belongs in the "non-canon" section, and he still didn't fucking move it.
The wiki is awful, and now it's worse since every fucking page has major spoilers for all the future games as well.
>>3453719802
That's literally it.
AND WE'VE SEEN BOTH OF THEM FUCKING BEFORE.>I need to make sure I become me
>999 did this with Akane first
>I need to train shifting powers
>VLR did this with Sigma and Phi
>That is all of my motives
THE FUCK
>>345370975
damn young child of typically bad behavior
Whatever happened to Junpei running off after hearing the anagram "Together with me, we are ten" and LEATD being left over
I mean, it's obvious what it means now, but nothing ever came of it
>>345372572
I'm sure none of them had purple and black eyes though
>>345372839
Dropped plot point #41.
>>345372984
This is correct.
Delta took the motives more purpled,
And that has made all the difference.
>>345372572
He also wanted to make a timeline where Rad-6 kills the fanatic and to give a dead kid a second chance at (virtual) life. Still not great though.
>>345372360
>Why on earth?
Well I want to like the idea of the ZE wiki. I do. You bring up other major problems why it gets held back. You aren't wrong at all.
>Garbage main admin
>Main admin that micromanages
>Really unchecked spoilers
>Long drawn out pages when stuff could be simplified and cut down
>Blatantly incorrect info that won't change due to a certain admin
>It's a fucking Wikia. Horrible choice to put a wiki on. The site should really be on something similar Wikipedia which is Media Wiki.
Like I said, it would be fun to have a wiki like that but the Wikia is really just garbage.
>>345372360
>finished 999 without knowing it has a sequel
>check the wiki
>see junpei tenmyouji and VLR, but at the time thought VLR was a anime spin off or something I did'nt care
>fast forward two months
>999 got a sequel ????
>playing it on 3DS
>see Tenmyouji
>see the part when clover says she cannot betray him
>Then I understood but was still in total blindness since it was supposed to be only one year after 999
>guessing the 2074 twist and got it ruined thanks to a wiki
Life is simply
I played all 3 of the Zero Escape games in 1 week, and man was ZTD shit. I was so excited to start it after beating VLR, and only ended up disappointed. I really don't understand the point of the true ending if there won't be a 4th game. The "true" ending should have just been the one that led onto VLR and ended the series with a loop.
Instead we got stupid mind hack shit.
>>345372585
But there's no option to stop bullshitting.
Anyone else feel like True End got cut short?
I mean, we had the terrorist AND Brother's identity revealed in C, Delta's identity revealed in D, and Q and Sean's bullshit revealed in Q.
True End revealed nothing. It really feels like the big threat was supposed to be revealed in True End, but they had to rush it and just came up with "terrorist nuclear blah 8 billion blah" and shoved it into two lines in C team.
>>345373804
M I N D H A C K
>>345373429
Fair enough, I wouldn't mind a solid wiki either. But yeah, there's no salvaging the current one.
>>345373653ITNEVERCEASES
>>345373501
>last quote
>>345373645
>I really don't understand the point of the true ending if there won't be a 4th game
We hope you look forward to it!
>>345373501
>>345374126
Someone post the quote from man stabbed edit of this
>>345373501
>Delta explains his motives
>To see if those participating in the game will help to stop Free the Soul
I don't know what's worse.
That the Wiki's blatantly WRONG, or that what it wrote isn't actually the case since FTS is apparently the good guys and there's a random faceless terrorist who got thrown in at the last fucking second.
I'm gonna go with the Wiki's worse since the contributors to that thing are fucking awful (except the snail page, whoever did that is a genius), but Uchi's really fucking pushing it.
>>345374090
>But yeah, there's no salvaging the current one.
I agree with you. However, the chance that someone would step up to make a solid wiki are pretty low.
>>345374517
I was super tempted to make a new one after finishing ZTD, cause I love the series and have always wanted a functional wiki.
After getting what we got for ZTD though, I don't think I really care to anymore.
999 > VLR > ZTD
>>345374901
Not even close to correct.
999 > VLR.
>>345374843
Is it weird that I would still fuck Phi's beheaded corpse?
>>345373501
>"SHUT THE FUCK UP!" (to Akane)
>"Don't worry... I won't die." (to Eric moments before being shot)
>>345375026
ZTD happened, deal with it.
reminder that the games should be played in chronologica order
999 > ZTD > VLR > ZTD again
I want to SHIFT into a history in which ZTD is actually good
>>345375209
Apparently that's all Phi would be good for anyways.
Seriously, what the fuck did she even do in this game?
>>345375782
>having to play the worst game twice
no thanks
>>345375783
Though there are infinite histories, that doesn't mean that every conceivable history exists.
There probably doesn't exist a history where an elephant crashed through the Healing room. There probably doesn't exist a history where Q choked himself to death.
There also probably doesn't exist a history where ZTD is good.
Though, now that alien fax machines are a thing, anything is fucking possible.
Kyle DLC when
>>345374705
>After getting what we got for ZTD though, I don't think I really care to anymore.
I can't blame you. While I still enjoy 999 and VLR. ZTD is just meh and a shitty way to "end" the series.
I guess the reason I cared for a new Wiki is just because I know how to rip data assets easily from the DS and 3DS. Whatever at this point.
>>345375880
>playing the worst game at all
why would you even
I think the people that prefer 999 over VLR are the people who evaluate the flaws over the positives, and the people who like VLR over 999 evaluate the positives over the flaws. 999 had a good atmosphere, was grounded, had the best art, but that's about it, the characters didn't do shit for me, the twists didn't surprise me, replaying the game several times was tedious and the payoff wasn't worth it. As a whole experience it left me feeling utterly numb. VLR surprised me when it came out because I actually liked some of the characters, the jokes didn't make me want to shut off my DS, watching the group dynamics evolve in each path was fascinating and the twists and turns as everything unfolded kept me hooked. I missed the atmosphere and I think it was dumb to end it on a cliffhanger, but it was much more fun for me.Even ZTD in all its dumbness and bad writing was more fun to me than 999.
>>345376254
The reason I prefer VLR over 999 is because on my first playthrough of 999, I managed to get the "correct" route the first time through without cheats, but it made me start over and get a bad ending first. I understand that the game is about the Morph field and being able to remember things from other timelines, but having to literally replay everything twice just to get the ending I deserved the first time through made me super upset. I liked VLR because it had the best memo vs screen system, had a lot more shortcuts in terms of actual playability, and both the gameplay and story were bretty good.
I wish Carlos would shoot Delta.
I know it's against his character and all, but...isn't it likely that a timeline does exist where he does?
That'd make him a criminal and I'd imagine that that timeline would be a lot more fucked up then the alternative. Way more interesting then a happy ending in my opinion.
There's one thing I still don't understand, and would really like an explanation for.
Why didthe reviewer's shill so hard for this game? Most reviewers were even fans of the series I general, and they still gave it a 8-9's our of 10.
I mean, they obviously weren't paid - they hardly had enough money to keep Akane's hair in one place.
So what would you do, /v/? Release a virus that kills 6 billion people and save two billion or do nothing and have 8 billion die
>>345376963
they got promised a free copy of the new Danganronpa
>>345376971
I'd send copies of myself back in time over and over as much as possible until as many timelines as possible had as many copies of me as possible
I would then reassess my options with the additional resources
>>345376861
The point of the cut from that scene is to show that the characters are no longer being mind hacked and can control themselves now.
Though, giving Carlos the gun is the perfect way for Delta to put himself in danger, so that he can activate his ESPer mind hack powers to an even greater degree than usual. Which he could use to mind hack everyone and find the terrorist more easily. OR Q is actually the terrorist, and he's activating his mind hacking skills to a greater degree in order to get Carlos to shoot everyone there, including himself, and then he's going to activate the nuclear bomb.
>>345376254
I was ready to accept what you said until that spoiler.
I believe 999 feels more complete as a game, it was intended to be standalone even though the ending is a bit open ended. I think VLR is fantastic but in the end it was just leading into another game.
Sigma should have been way more intelligent than how he was portrayed in ZTD and Phi was given very little screen time. They had a couple of lines of banters and that was fun, but not enough.
VLR got me really hyped to play what was coming next but ZTD is the most disappointing game in the series.
>>345372360
>potential mental illness
Wow. Speaking of which, I'm not sure if this is coincidence or not but someone tried to remove Clover's mental illness from the Wikia. That *admin* reverted the changes despite them admitting it was speculation.
I fucking hate that admin micromanaging every little fucking detail.
>>345377592
I can't get over how they thought a shotgun blast was an axe mark.
>>345376254
I disagree with your spoiler.ZTD was a fun ride but it is definitely the worst of the trio.
>>345376971
He didn't even release the virus. He relied on a complete bumblefuck's decision to bring her infected friend with her immediately instead of telling the friend to wait 12 hours for a hazmat team to rescue and quarantine her.
Diana is easily the worst character in the series. I went into this game thinking she was going to have to make a moral decision between risking 100℅ of humanity and certainly saving only 25% of it. Instead I got "NO MAN GETS LEFT BEHIND EVEN IF YOU COUKD HAVE TOTALLY WAITED 4 HIURS FOR US TO RETURN WITH A BUBBLE SUIT SO YOU DONT KILL EVERYONE".
THE FUCK UCHI.
>>345376971
I wouldinvest in snails.
>>345377723
That was the funniest shit.
"CARLOS, DID YOU SHOOT IT WITH YOUR AXE!?"
>Holy fuck I'm trapped here with these retards
It's no wonder he waited to save Junpei and Akane so that they still knew him - they were fucking Einsteins compared to the rest of the cast.
>>345377592
Yeah, even though it's my least favorite I think 999 definitely feels the most complete and has the least holes in it under scrutiny, but the fact that I felt complete indifference throughout soured it for me, in ZTD I could at least laugh at how ridiculous the characters were. But that part's pretty subjective and I know most people would just be frustrated instead.
>>345377592
Sigma not punching Eric in the face when given several opportunities to do so, despite being 3 times his size and 10 times as sane, is the second biggest disappointment of the game for me.
Kyle's obviously the biggest diassapointment.
>>345376971
Do nothing, except turn on some Castanets
>>345376963
I'd be lying if a part of me wasn't happy that the reviews are good.
Yet, ever since I finished ZTD I feel like I'm in a suspension in disbelief over it. The "asshole" or "retarded" reviewers who gave the game a 7-8 that /v/ hated on turned out to be right...
>>345378739
Yeah, but remember how fucking patient Eric was?
>Mira's dead, so I'm going to kill all of you!
>Okay sure, but can you just let us take care of a bunch of bullshit first?
>Oh yeah, no problem.
Was there any real reason for there to be a tenth player, or was it just because Uchi ran out of ideas?
I mean, he didn't need to be close to people or in danger to activate his mind hacking, as we saw with Team-C's rape Akane plan.
>the Carlos is a good character meme
I don't get it.
>>345379325
"What happened to the blind and deaf guy from Dcom?"
Though then again, why even be part of Dcom at that point
>>345378996
I started off not liking Eric like everyone else, then after you get the Chris story I felt bad for him and wanted to like him.
But he just kept veering off the rails so fucking hard that I couldn't find him enjoyable or sympathetic at all.
>>345371525
Any porn of Eric and his dad yet?
>>345378996
>I don't have blood or skin, therefore Mira's attacker was not me
>THAT MAKES YOU MORE SUSPICIOUS
Eric was one messed up fucker.
>>345378394
People hate on Carlos for being a dumbass all the time, but the stupidity in the cast is pretty mutual and he's not even the worst.
>Even the Uchi-Approved/Written Team D acts like morons or do moronic things (muh sense of kindness is a sin because it made me knowingly kill 6 billion over nothing!)
Ironically, the only one who doesn't do anything overly idiotic is the "kid"...well, as far as I know.
>>345369554
>Does Eric have a shotgun magnet in his fucking hands or something?
Shotgun was... everything to me... A lowly ice cream clerk and a beautiful goddess of a firearm. It seemed like a rare flower, forever out of my reach. It made me happy just to see its trigger from behind the glass case.
>>345379839
Any porn ohhim and his dad?
>>345379325
>Uchi ran out of ideas?
I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe it would have been a decent plot twist if it was handled better. ZTD handles it kind of poorly.The true reveal for Delta kind of pissed me off. Like really?
>>345337830
Expected well-intentioned extremist assimilation plot, got the time traveling super power pals.
6/10.
>>345379839
>>345379935
>>345380097
Sounds abusive.
>>345380204
So did any slug navigate the maze correctly?
>>345379673
What other character meme in ZTD is good, then? Complex motives? Mindhacking? Edge/Cuckpei?
>>345380168
You were born a SHITter.
>>345380452
I don't see how any slug could even start the maze, the only entrance has a salt arrow blocking the way.
>>345380338
Well that was Eric's dad.
>>345379986
Junpei's actually pretty solid on not doing anything horribly idiotic.
Carlos's wasn't the smartest decision, but it did allow them to learn new information about the game and it's creator.
Diana is and will forever be the biggest bumblefucks of the series.
>>345380270
>6/10
At most, 7/10. It was fun but the worst of the 3.
I really fucking hated how they made SHIFT some stupid complicated acronym. It made it hard to take anyone who said the full acronym seriously. What was wrong with using the word "jump" like they did in VLR?
>>345380338
Someone is making a shitty fanfic of this right now, I know it.
>>345380705
That's the joke.
>>345380752
>junpei
>smart
WHY IS THIS GAME SO SHITTY COMPARED TO 999 AND VLR?
EVEN VLR WAS A STEP DOWN FROM 999
WHERE THE FUCK DID EVERYTHING GO SO WRONG
>>345381286
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
the only good thing about this game are the high res fake tits
>>345337830
>Loved 999 until that fucking psychic bullshit at the end
>VLR is a convoluted mess that didn't have English audio as an option in my region (despite NA having dual audio and coming out first) so FUCK that
>Read up on ZTD because I want to know how the convoluted mess ended
>It actually sounded like the one Zero Escape that would have appealed to me
Fucking damn it
>>345381420
Half the budget went into their physics
>>345380215
I am 100℅ convinced that Brother and Delta were not originally meant to be the same person.
I can dig the Delta is Phi's twin deal - there was a lot of foreshadowing on Phi not being an only child, even a tiny bit in VLR. Also decent foreshadowing on Zero either being or being related to one of the contestants.
I can dig the Delta is Zero reveal as well - there should have been more foreshadowing regarding this, but it at least seems consistent.
I don't particularly like that Brother is ultimately benevolent, but it's about par for the course for these types of VN's, and it just means he was a little less genocidal than he was originally made out to be (though they definitely dropped plot points like the poisoning of the morphogenic field). I don't know if it was the original plan, but it's not too far of a stretch to assume one way or the other.
I can not for the life of me believe that Brother was meant to have been adopted and is actually Delta. There is practically no foreshadowing to this, and Akane in VLR should have known about this shit.
>>345381286
Because Uchikoshi thinks muh twists are more important than actual plot.
>>345337830
The ending was a letdown. I liked a lot of things leading up to it though.
>>345380752
>His "plan" to save them got them killed, again
>Serves no purpose, just gets a penalty
>Carlos is the one that has to fix his fuck up
how should i play this, do i play all the rooms for one team first or alternate between the three of them?
>>345371171
what about steins gate
anyone who likes ZE would love that i think
>>345382105
999 > steins gate >>>>> VLR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit > ZTD
>>345381697
>didn't like 999's "psychic bullshit"
>thinks he would have enjoyed ZTD
>>345380752
>junpei
>not idiotic
>"guys what if time was in reverse"
>"just pick ally dude"
>"i take showers just to feel"
>>345381286
It was made by completely different developer without any involvement from the original team besides Uchikoshi. The producer wasn't there to keep Uchikoshi's vision coherent, and he ended up making a lot of very stupid decisions when unchecked.
>>345381697
>999
>Psychic bullshit at the end
I'm going to be blunt here - if you didn't see that coming, you're retarded.
June herself tells you EXACTLY what's going to happen in game when she mentions the Titanic, and there's like 3-4 more exposition dumps about related concepts, which all tie back to their current situation. And then there's constant explaining of other character's histories that tie back to the same concepts.
I mean, you definitely don't have to like it, but it was really fucking obvious where they were going with story.
>>345379986
>>345380752
Writing wise I was relatively fine with Diana and the other new characters
Sigma was just a lonely old man instead of VLR Zero, which was really fucking disappointing
Phi was dead most of the time and just didn't do a lot
Kyle didn't exist
Junpei being edgy was fine, but they way overdid it
Akane basically being a copy of 999 Akane instead of VLR Akane was bullshit
The amount of screentime they gave her and Junpei's bickering/flirting while the fate of the entire world was in their hands was fucking killing C-Team for me
The characters in this game were just not was I was expecting at all
I thought ZTD would be about the masterminds of the previous games trying to outsmart the antagonist for the entire game
Instead we got none of that, and the only thing that mattered was their SHIFT ability
The characterization is by far my biggest problem with the game, I was so hyped for the Zero banter
>>345382105
I hate S;G. Waifus are too importqnt to the plot, and most characters are annoying as fuck.
>>345382216
>Still visiting this thread despite preferring shit over ZTD
>>345373585
>reading the wiki for a mystery game mid-playthrough
reminder for all the haters ;)
>>345350067
>One is about the near biblical scale war between Hope and Despair
>Not about waifus and a faggoty evil leader
kek
>>345382580
Not him, but after sitting through ZTD I might as well get some ebin memes out of it at least.
>>345348513
Why not both?
>>345381998
That wasn't idiotic at all.
That was a solid, logical choice. It was the wrong choice because of information he couldn't have known without trying to do it, but that doesn't mean it wasn't intelligent.
>I need X-Passes to get out
>Other histories will give us X-Passes
>Let's get them
>Find out only afterwards that the system considers that cheating
He completed the puzzle to the best of his ability and was informed after putting down his last piece that the puzzle manufacturer was actually going to send him the last piece (which he never would have sent if the puzzle wasn't completed).
I mean, maybe there is another stupid decision he made that I can't think of, but that is certainly not it.
Compare that to Carlos, who knew exactly where Zero's base was and waited, or Diana, who couldn't have waited a few hours to go back for Phi, or Sigma, who had kids in a shelter with extremely limited food.
great thread, now i don't even feel like finishing the game anymore
>>345383150
You should thank us
>>345377592
>Sigma should have been way more intelligent than how he was portrayed in ZTD
not to mention akane. i was prepared for some stone cold zero vs zero action here. turns out she's only good for casual knowledge of MORPHOGENETIC FIELD and logic puzzles
>>345382217
>999 is a perfectly good Saw-like "people trapped in a puzzle room murder trap" premise that unravels into "lol nobody was in any danger anyway XDDDD TIME TRAVEL!"
>ZTD goes in with dimension hopping psychic bullshit and uses it to enhance the people trapped in a puzzle room murder trap experience
Plus I'm a sucker for parallel universe plots.
>>345382401
Well yeah, it wasn't a surprise twist at the end, but it still spoiled the experience, in my opinion.
>>345337830
>those cutscenes animations
why exactly
>>345383031
Why didn't they just download information from the morphogenetic field like they did later instead of jumping through hoops?
Why does everyone have eyeliner?
>>345382647
>Decisions have consequences
I wish I could get paid for shit like this
This is the first game i played in the series and I enjoyed it a lot. It was a bit confusing at times (I had to read some of the backstory of the other games on the wiki LOL), but overall enjoyable. Why does it get so much hate? The puzzles were challenging as fuck and the voice acting was awesome, best VN I have ever played.
>>345383031
Anon, he's stupid either ways. His entire purpose for being in the game is to lick the shoes of a girl he passively aggressively resents and of whom he only briefly knew during his childhood. Oh, not to mention more or less propose to her.
As much as I do dislike Diana, even her desire to avoid her abusive ex was a better reason to join the experiment.
>>345383615
Personally I think you'd hook more fish without the LOL.
>>345381239
>We're going to make her burn like Ace couldn't
>>345383150
do it for the memes anon, i'm not even joking.
also good job coming in here trying to spoil yourself. it's like a 20 hour game why the fuck dont you just finish the damn thing?
>>345379986
>Ironically, the only one who doesn't do anything overly idiotic is the "kid"
He put down that crossbow in one end, I guess thinking shit would just work itself out somehow. Also the bullshitting.
>>345383490
If that's how you feel then I don't understand how you can deride VLR. It's not nearly as "convoluted" as you think it is and its entire premise revolves around jumping between alternate timelines. It's literally the same thing as what you're describing about ZTD except less excessive and more impactful.
>>345383150
Turn on Text Skip (or whatever it's called) in the options menu and you can advance dialogue manually. Really speeds up scenes with pointless nonsense
>>345380168
His movements are complex
Beat the game in about 18~ hours.
Little upset that they'd end it on another cliffhanger when this was supposed to explain everything.
Despite everyone memeing him I think Delta is a fine character, who even without being able to shift, performed a massively convoluted plan that worked out in the end.
What I really don't understand, is his reveal. He was there the entire time and nobody said anything? I dunno if I missed some content.
>>345381998
Jumping to another timeline for X-Passes was smart, Zero just fucked them over. He withheld information about the method leading to failure until after you failed.
>Zero: Hey Junpei, what's 7+5?
>Junpei: Oh, I know, it's 12!
>Zero: Wrong, it's actually 20. You forgot to add the 8.
>Junpei: What? You never said there was a fucking 8.
>Zero: I never said there wasn't.
>Carlos: THE FUCK?
>>345383150
I opened up the thread yesterday right at the start of the cutscene after I thought there was nothing left to spoil, and read all the shitposts while the game's finale took a nosedive
it was perfect
>>345384263
Pretty much, Delta was always Q, whenever Q was said it was always referring to him, Sean was only ever called Sean
>>345382647
Actually, now that I think about it I think ZTD was well-received because it, along with the ZE series, doesn't have any similar benchmark to compare it to.Danganronpa doesn't count
I know it's stupid to use relativity to judge the quality of something but that's how a lot of people tend to think.
>>345373501
>>Delta hands Carlos a revolver
>picture shows that it's clearly not a revolver
STOP BULLSHITTING ME
http://www.strawpoll.me/10772878
>>345384396
>Sean was only ever called Sean
Stop bullshitting me
>>345384396
I was wondering why everyone was suddenly calling Q Sean near the end.
For a second I thought we the player were zero when Sean pointed directly at us.
>>345384396
I thought that was stupid. They only refer to Sean by name like, once or twice throughout the game, and Q not at all? But they'll say Eric and Mira plenty of times.
>>345383571
Could both be asked of the entire cast and Uchi fucked up when letting everyone absorb every memory.
>>345383641
His decision to join the game is pre-ZTD, and we were talking about everyone's stupid decisions during the events of ZTD.
Joining the game to find Akane isn't necessarily a terrible decision, since he also wanted answers for what the fuck happened in 999. He IS retarded for going up to the moon in VLR 45 years later, but neither of these have anything to do with his decisions he made during ZTD, which were all rather sound.
>>345384263
They mentioned him a few times but they played some dirty tricks too (like never saying Sean's name).
>>345384396
>Sean was only ever called Sean
or "brat", "you", "kid", etc.
>>345384784
What were they asking "Gab" supposedly? I don't remember this.
>>345339381
I think I'm only disappointed with the end, and even then, I'm not too disappointed as it provided us with tons of memes.
>>345381697
>Loved 999 until that fucking psychic bullshit at the end
>It actually sounded like the one Zero Escape that would have appealed to me
They are literally casting magic spells complete with final fantasy magical aura and magic balls flying through the roof this time, what the hell are you on about
>>345384718
>Find out what the fuck happened in 999
That's wrong--in-game, nothing like that occurs.
He just makes snide remarks about it to Akane and hurts her feelings.Not that she didn't deserve it
>>345381286
SNAELS
why is junpei suddenly so edgy
>>345384689
>For a second I thought we the player were zero when Sean pointed directly at us.
I guessed wrong the first time and went to select the fragment, which is called "YOU are Zero!" or something like that.
I almost fucking closed the game right then
>>345384608
According to the files. It's awkward writing, but at the same time I didn't notice until it was pointed out.
>>345384718
>wanting to know what the fuck was behind 999 is wrong
>carrying a ring to propose a girl you barely know is okay
Dumb waifufag.
>>345383150
The memes are complex.
are there any gamebreaking save bugs in this one?
>>345372360
>>345371941
>>345377626
The admin in question is this guy:
https://storify.com/jasperrolls/the-silent-hill-wiki-circumcision-meltdown-of-2015
He is literally insane.
Prepare your anus if you start reading this page.
Someone needs to remove him from the wikis he runs.
>>345386195
the snail is the only bug
Was there some kind of logic to which door opened in Round 2 of VLR? Was it based on who pulled the lever?
>>345384885
C team.
>>345387139
I tried to puzzle this out for the longest time, but I could never find any kind of pattern or logic in it.
>>345387139
It was based on what room they needed to go to in that timeline. Nothing more.
>>345337830
What's zero time and what is the dilemma all about?
>>345387858
It's... difficult to boil the reason down to one word.
>>345387178
Having your head blown off is a shitty way to die. On the other hand, there could be worse ways to die I suppose. I mean, I'd assume it would be a quick death.
>>345346618
The lack of Sigma and Junpei interaction was disappointing. In general the team system kind of screwed the game out of some potentially interesting character dynamics.
>>345388262
I bet the few seconds you're still conscious would be interesting though if the head's still intact
>>345387178
>they mention gab being old earlier
>think eric is just avin a gigl with the dog
>all the cuts to gab implying it
>turns out uchi is just taking everyone for his ruse cruise
>>345355051
>Will Sigma still make Luna even though he doesn't have to anymore
Maybe.
In the timeline he died he lamented the fact that he wouldn't make Luna, Kyle, or Lagomorph, so he may make them in the true end timeline as well.
>>345387139
I always figured it was based on who all went through the chromatic doors
>>345350067
>near biblical scale war between Hope and Despair
That's not technically wrong, but no
>>345388619
It wouldn't be them tho. Sigma is such q shitty father.
>>345364015
Any time a character acted out of character they were mind hacked just for the purpose of forcing more timelines to be created.
>>345388869
Yeah, it wouldn't. Maybe he won't make them again, and him saying sorry for never making them was him not thinking straight and just clinging to the only family he knew at the time.
>>345362901
That fucked me up so bad once I realized that the cute proposal lead to the VLR timeline
>>345382439
>Akane basically being a copy of 999 Akane instead of VLR Akane was bullshit
It's only been 1 year for them since 999. She still wants to act cute in front of jumpy. And she did show off her leet anagram solving skills. She also did some crazy math.
>>345388502
>if the head's still intact
>packing enough explosives to cause damage to the body but specifically not enough to kill someone
That would be pretty cruel.
>>345379935
He was suspicious for the sake of being suspicious. Not as mira's killer. And it was true. That line of thought led them to identifying zero.
>>345389184
>leet anagram solving skills
Bullshit. She couldn't make the wordDeltafrom 5 remaining letters.
>>345389184
>world is about to be destroyed
>let's act cute
Akane is a retard.
Was the education program that Kyle talked to when Sigma ignored him Lagomorph?
>>345382439
VLR Akane appears in the doomed VLR timeline after Carlos saves them.
Speaking of which.
>based carlos so devoted to saving his friends he waits 10 months
>finally saves them
>they chew him out
>he's stuck in the crapsack timeline where 6 gorillion die
>he just wanted to save his pals
>>345390021
but the assumption since the end of 999 was that akane is always "vlr akane" because she set up the nonary game. she set up the nonary game before the events of ztd. it was idiotic for her to act the way she did in ztd
>>345387178
Stop bullshitting me you old fart
>>345390715
Nah, Akane becomes like that AFTER ZTD and the release of radical 6 and spending 40 some years trying to prevent it.
Even in VLR, when Sigma wakes up at the very end, Akane is pretty normal.
>>345385335
He felt betrayed at the end of 999. Then he spends 45 years being edgy until he meets quark where he gets a little less edgy.
>>345348513
999 > DR2 > VLR > Rest
>>345391145
There isn't any sign of Junpei feeling betrayed or bitter towards Akane in 999's ending scenes. He's in a pretty good mood.
>>345390898
>KOs Junpei
>ditches him somewhere
>ignores Carlos and Maria because they are not necessary
That's VLR akane alright.
>>345391236
R11 > 999 > E17 > VLR > N7 >>> ZTD
>>345388619
But that's old sigma who will switch with young sigma in about 4 months. It's kinda sad 'cause he worked so hard to get this peaceful world and he'll get to spend 4 months with Diana and Phi and then young sigma will come reclaim his body. Does old sigma go back to the apocalypse future? Or will he find Diana and Phi alive in a back to the future-esque epilogue
>>345391236
>>345391236
Dangonronpa at it's best is still only as good as ZTD
>>345391429
>N7
>Not dead last
kek
>>345385335
He essentially became a freelance criminal for a year to get info on Crash Keys and it turned him into an edge god.
>>345391429
R11>>>>VLR>>999/E17>>>>>ZTD
>>345388869
Kyle can shift
and if Sean means anything character that are in a Quantum computer end up being the same in all timelines
we've gone off topic
>>345373585
I actually read Junpei's last name before starting VLR but somehow managed to not remember it until the scene with the picture of little Akane.
>>345390898
>lying no stop and knowing stuff she doesn't share
>Akane is pretty normal
nah
>>345391662
You're all shitters
>>345391621
Doesn't work like that.
Delta can use the QC to simulate every timeline.
Sigma can animate a furry mascot with it.
You are right about K tho
>>345391558
Even Never7, a mediocre dating sim with mildly interesting plot points that ended up going absolutely nowhere, is better than the pathetic alien train wreck that is ZTD.
>>345391804
No, she's pretty stable as a human.
>>345389721
I remember K was talking about a motherly figure from his childhood in VLR. I used to think it was Akane, but now I think it may have been Diana. Though he would have known her for only 3 years.
>>345385335
he saw the darkness in humans and his soul became black
the guy that lived through the apocalypse was less edgy, this Junpei would have let Quark die instead of saving a small crying child
>>345391345
The adrenaline wore off and then he started wondering why that bitch hasn't called him yet.
>>345392001
It was confirmed in VLR that it was Akane, not to mention that Luna was built before he ever met his mother figure
>>345391947
>Doesn't work like that
>literally used the quantum computer to calculate all the different timelines in VLR so that the right events happen in the right timelines
it was pretty obvious
>>345391479
Young Sigma jumps to the future to VLR.
Old SIgma jumps back to ZTD.
Multiple timelines branch from here, but only two matter.
Either:
Old Sigma fails and creates the VLR timeline, in which case Young Sigma will take his body back and then become Old Sigma.
Or:
Old Sigma creates the true ending timeline. How would Young Sigma, whose existence is confined to the VLR timeline, take the true ending timeline body?
>>345344072
It's like they let a fan write that ending.
>Ok and then Sigma and Diana have kids.
No, they don't think about consequences at all, they just have babies and send them through the teleporter.
Oh and also there's a character we purposely won't mention just for a twist. Then we'll drop in random hints that he is there so that autist fans have something to defend this shit story writing.
What the actual fuck. I wish they had just tied a bow at the end of 999 and made 2 entirely original stories.
>>345391968
It was nice seeing her go crazy killing Carlos whenever she saw Junpei die. That's how you know a chick falling for you.
>>345386421
I already had a sample of his crazy.
So how does Diana work with the VLR timeline? It's said that Luna is based off of someone Sigma met during what would be ZTD, but during the time Sigma would have built Luna and made Kyle, he would have been 22-year old mentality (plus whatever natural aging) Sigma, and thus would never have met her, right? Or even if he did meet her, he wouldn't have any memories of what happened in ZTD, right?
>>345392036
The guy that lived through the apocalypse was once the edgy ZTD Junpei, though. Obviously he mellowed out. Either through years of loneliness, or more likely when he found a purpose other than Akane by adopting Quark.
>>345392359
Uchi wrote Team D.
Two other writers were assigned to write the team C and team Q scenarios, respectively.
I feel like Uchi had an aneurism sometime after VLR.
>>345392359
Ironically, D-Team's route was the only one that was 100% by Uchikoshi out of the main three.
>>345392146
>childhood
>only met Akane when he was 18 years old
Akane only lived on the moon base for 4 years before the AB game started
>>345392543
>Quark
He didn't cross my mind once during ZTD, which makes me sad. So throughout all of Junpei's shifting, he didn't gain access or remember Quark in the future? And if he did, do you think he'd willingly drop that special connection for Akane who generally treated him like shit?
>>345392391
>crazy
I'd like to see that crazy go against this crazy.
>sibling bonds
vs
>childhood "friendships"
Which is stronger?
>>345392546
I think playing The Walking Dead poisoned his brain. He was going crazy wanting to make a mass appeal cinematic game since then.
>>345392525
Old Sigma jumped out of the body shortly before they left for the moon, where Young Sigma would spend three years with Diana before she died cause of the space sickness.
Old Sigma jumped to the end of VLR, where shit for fucked.
>>345392525
It's only a few months after ZTD that Young Sigma comes back to his appropriate body. He meets Diana then, who was already with Old Sigma, and then some sort of weird thing happens where they fall in love for the first/second time. Then they live together for three years. You can see this kind of explained in one of the files in ZTD where Diana dies and talks about how she's lived with young Sigma for three years, and that he'll go and meet her for the second/first time someday.
>>345392775
>drop that special connection for Akane
He doesn't have to drop Akane. Quark won't even be born for years now. But it's also possible that Quark won't be born, or if he is that his parents survive due to a different world. This Junpei will probably never meet Quark, but that doesn't really matter. Tenmyouji's timeline still exists.
>>345392827
So what the fuck happened to Diana and how did they get the music box back from Delta for the VLR timeline?
>>345392359
Do you think it was a planned pregnancy?
>>345392359
Retards eat that shit up. There are people in this thread that believe Junpei marryng Akane makes sense.
>>345392827
The files are talking about the VLR timeline, not the true end
>>345393048
Diana died of a circulatory problem caused by the moon's gravity, if I recall. She never gave the music box to Delta in that timeline, only in the babies one.
>>345393048
The music box is sent only in the babies timeline. And even so, the transporter just sends a copy. The music box that Delta has doesn't have any relevance.
>>345393152
I'm not saying it was handled well, but they obviously cared for each other, and with the true end they don't need to plan and isolate themselves for 45 years to prevent the apocalypse, sooooo... It could happen
so who was in Sigma's body from the ZTD-VLR ending to when Young Sigma goes back into his body 4 months later?
>>345393404
Do you mean the true end? Because that one has Old Sigma still. It's only in the VLR timeline that young Sigma shifts back
>>345393152
What doesn't make sense?
>>345392525
>"This must be fate."
>"Fate?"
>Diana smiles weakly from the bed at Sigma's question. "Don't you remember? You told me that yourself."
>"Me? I never said it. If it really was me, then..."
>"Yes. The Sigma who was 67 inside." Diana shifts her frail hand closer to Sigma, and he gently grasps it between his own.
>The Sigma before her is not the one who was trapped in the shelter. It's the same body, but a different consciousness. On April 13, 2029, Sigma was at the headquarters of Crash Keys, his eye and arms replaced with robotic ones. There, the young Sigma returns to his body from 45 years in the future, and begins to carry out Akane's instructions...
>"How many years has it been since you came here, Diana?"
>"A little over three, I think. I followed you here in May 2029."
>A violent coughing fit takes over after she speaks. Sigma helps her sit up and softly pats her back until it subsides.
>"Why didn't the Medical Pod work...?"
>"I told you. It's fate."
Cont.
>>345393404
I don't quite know what you mean, but in the VLR end Old Sigma shifts forward to just after the Nonary Game when Young Sigma shifts back to April 2029.
In the true end, Sigma just gets to essentially live a doubled lifespan, give or take twenty years.
>>345392543
of course he is a Junpei that forgot everything about ZTD and even the ring (which were the points where he turned more lighthearted) would become even more fucked up during the apocalypse especially the one caused by Radical-6, I don't see him taking care of some random child he heard crying
>>345393048
Music box isn't a paradox, they never get it back from Delta in the timelines they give it to him, and in most timelines they don't give it to him.
PHI'S FUCKING BROOCH IS A PARADOX. It's an internally inconsistent bootstrap paradox. Phi gets it from Diana, who gets it from Phi, and at no point is it created from scratch, which means that (since the alien fax machine copies they physical condition of the transfered) it will eventually crumble into dust.
>>345393557
>>345393727
I meant in the ending in ZTD that connects to VLR, the one where he loses his arms and Radical-6 gets out.
>>345393720
>Diana's skin is deathly pale, but her eyes still shine with life. Just like a child's...
>"I've always dreamt of coming here. Did you know that "Diana" is the name of the goddess of the moon? I've wanted to do this ever since I was little... so I'm perfectly fine with dying here..."
>"What are you saying..."
>"I've been able to spend the last three years living with you, Sigma. I have treasured every moment."
>Sigma lowers his head, his expression pained.
>"Please don't make that face. You don't need to be sad. In the year 2074, you will SHIFT back to Christmas 2028 and the next day-"
>"Old me will head to the Dcom facility in the Nevada desert and meet you..."
>Diana nods. Sigma closes his eyes and shakes his head.
>"That's not it. I mean, I'm in love with the you-"
>His declaration stops as Diana's lips close over his in a kiss, and the rest of his words are lost.
Cont.
>>345393787
>I don't see him taking care of some random child he heard crying
He didn't want to. He took the kid and tried to find someone else to take care of him. ZTD Junpei isn't a wholly awful person, he's just jaded and believes that the only way to survive the Decision Game is to play by Delta's rules.
>>345393851
I don't know how it made it through the incinerator even once without a scratch, but it's going through there an infinite number of times.
>>345393981
>After a moment, Diana murmurs, "It must be a wonderful future. The future where we found each other... In 2028..."
>Sigma holds on her tightly. Aching, heartfelt sobs echo within a cold, silent world.
Fuckin' character count.
>>345393720
Post the Mira one next.
Threads almost kill, so might as well go out with pants on head retardation.
>>345393352
>cared for each other
>don't see each other for 9 years
>Junpei moved on and barely remembers her
>doesn't even know she has a brother
>childhood acquaintances at best
>meets her for like a day after 9 fucking years
>knows her personality is fake
>puts him in danger and/or gets him killed
>Akane runs off and he doesn't even get a thank you
Shit is dumber than twilight.
>>345393941
I think old sigma's gonna stay in the body until young sigma comes back in april. To get the arms ready and probably some prep work with Akane.
>>345393941
that one is exactly the same as the image that shows the shifting in VLR
>>345394094
Post the prison escape now.
It was at that point that I realized that Uchi's just having a fucking laugh.
>>345372572
1. Ensure own existence
2. Create a super team OR
3. If that fails, release a virus to kill the terrorist
4. Make Sean's dreams come true
5. Make people make decisions because he finds it interesting
Am I missing anything?
>>345394430
Shoot dogs
>>345394229
>>345394320
so why they act as if no one knows what's happening there and they need Phi and Sigma to jump there to gain information?
Sigma didn't even know the events where he lost his arms and he lived with Diana who was there for years or he could have just told everything to Akane, unless she kept it a secret as usual
>>345394073
>Brooch is already scratched
>Incinerator does nothing
>Hydrofluoric acid melts it
I thought I knew everything wrong with this game already.
I was wrong.
Unfortunately.
I've been thinking...if Carlos 2 were to shift from post C-end back into the Payoff/true end timeline, would he
a) jump into Carlos 1 (the body that wins the coin toss)
or b) Carlos 2?
I guess it logically should be b, but it's just kind of hard to know for sure.
>>345390898
So she was pretty cheerful when she was the mastermind of the Nonary Game, huh?
>>345394430
>>345394430
He fucking hates Gab apparantly.
Also
>Finds human decisions fascinating
>Mind hacks and forces other humans into specific decisions
Ok Uchi. You do you.
>>345392546
Honestly that 1 ending was the only one I really had a problem with, just so fucking silly and having such a large impact on the story.
Other things I didn't like were:
- Junpei is suddenly an asshole after 1 year
- Mira and Eric could be removed from the story with 0 effect (Especially Eric). I'm not saying I want returning characters, but how about some who have some impact on the story in one way or another. Actually, Carlos is the same as well, just a random guy.
- The ending wasn't satisfying because the motivation behind the villain's actions were basically zero
- Sean is a robot clone of a character we never see and this leads to an uninteresting reveal
- Having memory wiped after each trial leads to uninteresting repetitive dialog where characters wonder if they've "Done this before". I also think it's lazy writing.
- Why do I have to go through the first vote in 4 different ways using at least 2 teams each time. I should only have to pick both options for each team once.
- Why is Santa (Aoi) barely mentioned in this game. You'd think he'd want to have some influence on these events.
>>345394120
>>345394341
>"Hey Mira, how are you feeling? Are you lonely?"
>"Come on, Eric. You visited last week."
>Eric smiles wryly, and reaches out to Mira with his left hand. Mira does the same, and their hands with matching silver rings align on either side of the plexiglass window.
>"I brought a new guest to see you today." Eric shifts to the side and a head pops into view.
>"You're...!"
>"Hiya Mira! Long time no see!"
>"It's... Sean, right?"
>"Yep! I'm happy you remembered!"
>Behind Mira, the sun is shining through an iron-barred window, lighting up the Visitor Room.
>"It's been a long time, Sean. It's good to see you." The smile that appears on her face is real. Mira no longer needs to plaster on a fake one.
>"When I heard you turned yourself in, I was really surprised!"
>"Eric was the one who convinced me. He said I should pay for my sins so we could be together."
>"So that's why you got married in jail."
>Eric ducks his head shyly.
>>345394628
Because there is absolutely no way to defend Uchi's fucking awful VLR plot resolution. Or the True End resolution.
Or really anything in ZTD.
>>345395069
>"Are you sure you're okay with this?" Mira asks.
>He looks at her in confusion.
>"Don't you regret marrying me? I did carve your heart out in another history... Isn't that what you said, Sean?"
>"Yeah. You did..."
>Eric looks Mira straight in the eye. "I've already told you this a bunch of times. I forgive you. No matter what happens. Besides, you haven't killed me in this history yet, right?"
>"Yet..." Mira's lips twist wryly.
>"But... the Heart Ripper's killed people already. So many..."
>"Sean, stop it..."
>Eric turns angrily on Sean, and Mira's face falls into a drown, but Sean continues speaking.
>"You turned yourself in, Mira, but that doesn't mean you've paid for all the crimes you did. I doubt the family and friends that were left behind would forgive you even if you were put on Death Row. There's no way you can clear your sins here."
>Mira grits her teeth.
>>345394430
You might be able to include
6. Let someone else judge the ethics of his actions
since he gives the gun to Carlos at the end there. Dude's been maindo hakku-ing for so long he probably barely remembers what's good and what's not.
>>345395020
He finds people regretting "their decisions" fascinating.
>>345395151
>"But there IS a way to clear them... well, not what you've already done, technically. You'll have to pay for those your whole life, that will never change. But maybe you can in another universe..."
>Suddenly, Sean's fist crashes through the plexiglass window.
>"Aah!"
>Mira jumps backward while Eric is frozen in shock.
>"Wh-What are you-!"
>Eric can't even finish speaking before Sean moves. Jumping through the broken window, he kicks the outside wall of the Visitor Room, causing it to crumble and reveal a giant hole. An alarm immediately starts blaring and police officers rush into the room, but Sean darts forward and takes them all down in a blink of an eye.
>He holds his hand out to Mira. "Let's go!"
>"Go... where...?"
>"I know where the transporter is being stored."
>"You're saying... we should go change history?" Eric finally stutters.
>Sean nods. "To stop young Mira from committing murder. Mira, I'm pretty sure that's the only way you can clear your sins."
>>345395047
>Leads to uninteresting repetitive dialog where characters wonder if they've "Done this before
Jesus fucking Christ I hated this so fucking much.
Second only to what they did to Kyle.
>>345395287
>Mira stares out through the hole in the wall at the horizon extending beyond.
>>345394120
>>345394341
Fuck you guys. This ending ruins all of Delta's plans.
>>345393118
I guess Sigma has a weak pull out game lol.
Seriously she must have gotten pregnant within the first few times they fucked based on the timeline right?
>>345395393
It must have been the vote... at 13:30!
>>345395020
Regardless of the fact that he gets off on people making choices, he still had to ensure that there were enough timelines to work with, so he had to make people act out of character.
>>345395435
It's hard to pull out 18 inches in time
>>345395272
It's not really a "decision" when the player just repeatedly exhausts all choices until they have done everything.
>>345395151
>damn brat talking shit
>>345395782
I was really hoping they would address this in this game.Maybe if there's a ZE4
>>345395724
Maybe he nutted in another timeline and it shifted timelines into Diana.
>>345395901
>Maybe if there's a ZE4
let's hope it will never come to this. series should have ended with 999
>>345395047
>Mira and Eric could be removed from the story with 0 effect (Especially Eric)
Well Mira is kind of important since she caused a lot of the problems leading to a lot of deaths.
>Why do I have to go through the first vote in 4 different ways using at least 2 teams each time. I should only have to pick both options for each team once.
I think I only went through the first vote twice for each team.
>Why is Santa (Aoi) barely mentioned in this game. You'd think he'd want to have some influence on these events.
Only thing mentioned of Santa was he serves as Akane's second in command and I think Junpei brought him up once. He's just a pussy whipped bitch that's always been following Akane's orders. It was cool that they mentioned Seven and Lotus though.
>>345395287
>Jumping through the broken window, he kicks the outside wall of the Visitor Room, causing it to crumble and reveal a giant hole
i had tons of fun spoilering 999 and VLR on /v/, but this game is so bad, it's not even worth spoilering
>>345395393
>Kyle
Is this Kyle thing a meme? He's literally never been an important character.
>>345393152
That makes more sense to me then Junpei suddenly being an asshole in this game.
new thread where?
>>345396251
These threads were black bar generals since forever.
About a week after ZTD came out, no one really cared to black bar much anymore.
Now? It's encouraged not to black bar, since it'll save people the trouble of playing through this absolute trainwreck.
someone maek new thread
>the mastermind behind everything is a character you, the player, never met and don't know anything about him until the last 20 minutes of the game
and the people that defend this are the samethat shit on Danganronpa
>>345380168
>meme webms have better animation than the game
Did they have a negative budget?
>>345396369
>>345396582
This isn'tsupposed to bea general, nobody is obligated to keep it going. Make your own thread.
>>345396151
>I think I only went through the first vote twice for each team.
You're lucky then. I did that and had to go back and vote two more times to kill off one team I hadn't. Supposedly the game keeps track of the two most recent votes and kills off a team if two of the same team get voted for. Basically this one part of the game works differently than every other part.
Also I feel like there should be a 5th voting result. One where none of the teams follow C team's note. Everyone would backstab and everyone would survive. I'm not sure that result was in the game at all.
>>345396320
Did you not play VLR?
Akane:
>"Kyle's consciousness is integral to what we are trying to accomplish."
>"This new mission begins on Christmas, and ends on New Year's Eve, 2028."
>"It's purpose will be to infiltrate the test facility and prevent the spread of the virus."
>"For this to happen, Kyle is absolutely necessary."
?:
>"And that is why he created him?"
Akane:
>"Yes."
?:
>"Kyle has gone back to 2028, to participate in this mission?"
Akane:
>"Correct."
How is saying "this character participating in this mission is 100% necessary for the success of our plan" equal to "he was never important"?
>>345396742
>>345396770
now we have 2 :D
>>345396770
this one has Clover
>>345396582
>>345396679
Thread one
>>345396624
Thread 2
Time to decide!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlVT234OA0o
>>345396961
>Do nothing
>>345396961
One has Clover.
One does not.
The choice is obvious.
>>345395435
According to a whenwasiconceived website, their birthday was 11/16/2029, so they were conceived around Feb 20-28. Diana noticed three months after their first time so she noticed around April or May. They probably fucked like rabbits until the birth. Phi and Delta were probably traumatized by the 18 inches nearly poking their eyes out inside Diana's womb.
>>345396961
CUT BETTY
>>345396320
(Q)
>>345397046
>>345396884
who's clover? is she from one of the older games? i never play old games, only new releases
>>345397046
The one with Diana?Clover a shit
>>345397087
That's why Delta's eyes are purple?
>>345397196
low quality bait
lastpost before archive
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>>345397208
>Diana
>"I'm going to kill 6 billion people because I can't wait a few hours to come back with a Hazmat team" Diana
>Better than Cleaver
>>345396961
>Hate Diana
>Hate Clover
>People already saying tedious shit in both threads
Life is unfair, don't you think?
>>345397046
One without Clover it is then.
>>345397365
>I'm gonna kill everyone because my brother died
VS
>Radical six is so contagious I've probably already caught it and once somebody has it there is pretty much no coming back, plus this timeline needs to happen
I honestly don't understand why people blame Diana
>>345397448
What would you do if I told you it was the same person,and it was me!
>>345397630
They already knew they hadn't caught it.
There was also no one else in the shelter to the best of their knowledge.
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