>Le Illuminati are evul meme
As a faggot who picked the Taggart ending in the last game. Why would I want to chase down the Illuminati in this game? they didnt do anything wrong. All they wanted was to restrict augs to not be walking death mobiles anymore. It was Darrow who was an ass and got millions of people killed and the illuminati had no hand in that.
''Illuminati are homos.'' - Bob Page.
>>344848957
What did he mean by this?
>>344848805
True. As we saw from the Brexit vote, people can't make decisions for themselves.
>>344848805
>Le Illuminati are evul meme
wut. Every DE game did a very good job establishing that the Illuminati is good.
Are you some kind of retard?
>>344848805
at least wait for the game to be released before start complaining about thing you dont know
>>344850071
So Jensen is the bad guy? Can't speak much for Denton since the illuminati didnt reign anymore in his era since the MJ12 took over.
>>344848805
Taggart is objectively the best ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkj4b7-r4MA
>>344850162
That's pretty subjective. Depends on the choice you made and your personal opinions.
In the DE universe though the Illuminati's goal is only to maintain order and keep humanity moving along okay. They aren't bad guys by any means.
>>344850345
Well every trailer for MD so far has been with Jensen saying ''I MUST STOP THE ILLUMINATI THAT ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SHADOWS AND UNCOVER THEIR EVIL DEEDS''
>>344848805
The Illuminati used subversive and outright violent means to try and effect control, and keyword is try. They were miserable failures who constantly fucked things up then had to cover their tracks.
You're supposed to question the moral and philosophical implications of each organization.
The Illuminati want reign over people like gods without a shred of benevolence to preserve their idea of order. All the while enjoying the latest technical advancements for themselves, restricting what is available to the common riff raff. They're no different from kings who dictate to the people what is law, only they do it from the shadows.
Sarif wants industry to advance at its own pace, allowing cultural issues to iron themselves out naturally. He is driven by profit, but he also genuinely believes that augs will be a net good for humanity, and the technological boom taking place will be worth it in the long run.
And if the Illuminati wasn't fanning the flames by manipulating anti-aug groups all of the issues presented in HR would have been minor.
>>344850071
They most definitely are not good. They maintain status quo.
If you can't tell the difference there then even IW is way over your head.
>>344849972
Slit your wrists.
>>344850535
link?
>>344850345
Agreed.
I thought that illuminati was painted as the bad guy tho in HR. OPPOSITE to the others.
>>344850561
>The Illuminati want reign over people like gods without a shred of benevolence to preserve their idea of order. All the while enjoying the latest technical advancements for themselves, restricting what is available to the common riff raff. They're no different from kings who dictate to the people what is law, only they do it from the shadows.
You're mistaking the Illuminati for MJ12
>>344850280
>"Let's let Congress handle it": the Ending
Yes this will go well I'm sure
>>344850581
Anouncement trailer, 101 trailer etc
>>344850734
He never says Illuminati.
And based on how HR ended with Bob Page forming MJ12, it's incredibly likely that's who Jensen is going against.
>>344850345
Yeah but the whole point is that nobody should control humanity. Even if it helps, humanity has a right to destroy itself.
It sounds autistic but that's the message the game is trying to convey, I believe
Everyone knows had MD will go.
>Jensen is convinced illuminati are evil
>bob page is using jensen to bring down the illuminati
>jensen succeeds
>MJ12 takes over like how they are supposed to according to the original game in the early 2030's
The end.
>>344851149
>Even if it helps, humanity has a right to destroy itself.
that's dumb m8. I'm glad the Illuminati is there to keep us from nuking ourselves into extinction.
>>344851182
pretty much
>>344850561
>outright violent
They never ever do that.
>>344851331
They instigate Purity First attacks, exactly like the CIA did with the Arab Spring in real life.
>>344848805
Sarif is just too damn likable.
I would follow Sarif to the ends of the Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6LQgrWzFMk
>>344851420
They don't do that, though.
>>344851420
But they don't. Purity First and Humanity Front aren't connected.
>>344851547
>used you as a test subject and cut off limbs and shit that werent even needed to be amputated to save your life just to see how far he could go auging you knowing you are the perfect specimen to try it out on.
>lies to you all the time
>knows about your past being a testtube baby and didnt tell you about it
What a great friend indeed.
>>344851547
I know right? Pretty reasonable fellow.
I was expecting either him or Pritchard to screw over Adam somehow but they never did. Maybe it's because I did well in all the convos with him.
>>344851771
>saved your life and gave you useful and expensive toys in the process
He's cool by me.
I just stayed up all night and got all the achievements for this game.
>>344851771
>intro scene where jensen is getting aug'd
>hear Sarif say: ''he's no good to me like this''
Fucking dick.
>>344848805
>Le Illuminati are evul meme
You can join them in literally every single Deus Ex game.
WHERES MALIK
NO MALIK NO BUY
I DIDNT SAVE HER LIFE FOR NO REASON
>>344852018
How? the game isnt even out yet.
>>344852136
WHERE IS JURI
>>344852136
Shes been replaced by Generic Black Guy
Will there be a asia hub in this game? they've always been the best in the Deus Ex games. Also Dubai doesnt count.
>>344848805
>The illuminati is good
Good goy
>>344852492
Most people probably didnt know you could save her and just left when she said ''JUST GO JENSEN''
>>344852492
>only 35% of people on Steam have finished the game
why didnt u save me anon?
>>344848957
No Bob, you are the Illuminati
>and then Bob was a homo
>>344852492
>>344852602
>0.1% of people beat the final boss but didn't finish the game
Explain this.
>>344852683
>that new hole
Hnnnggg
>>344852683
>tfw i thought that thing on her face was a sexy mole
>find out its a piercing
>>344852282
>generic
how so? he's south African.
>>344852683
didn't she blow up?
what's with the continuity errors? shit series, preorder canceled.
I feel the need to play HR again in DC version, but going though pacifist again and saving Malik again is killing it for me
>>344853031
>DC version
>>344852732
>tfw I got pacifist with Save Malik in the same playthrough
Just got to get the alarm ones, and I'm good.
DX1's political statements were much more interesting.
>>344852912
she died but you later find her corpse after Harvesters took her body and ripped out her aug implant so they can sell it to someone else.
Making these games prequels was a mistake.
>>344848805
t. bootlicker
>>344853125
Invisible War had pretty definitive endings though.
>>344853080
Amazingly enough, Warren Spector accurately predicted the next 15 years pretty goddamned accurately. Gun control legislation, meme wars, natural disasters in California devastating the west coast, and branding people who refuse to turn in their arms as terrorists.
>>344853125
where else would you have put them? After IW in the next century?
>>344853171
>spinning Warren's message into gun-nut libertardian friendly propaganda
The point is corporate consolidation, demagogy and weakening governments, not your right to shoot fucking niggers.
>>344853097
DELET THIS
>>344853067
probably means the first one.
it had a DC version.
>>344853176
Make a sequel, set it after the events of Deus Ex
>IW
what?
>>344850071
>Every DE game did a very good job establishing that the Illuminati is good.
did you even play DE1? JC is very suspicious about the Illuminati.
>>344853097
Wait is this true? Am i being meme'd?
>>344853253
Also China is exactly what happens if libertarians get their way. An unregulated jungle with ever more powerful companies, thugs rule the streets and PMCs rule.
>>344853313
So suspicious he joins them in one of the endings
>>344853157
>>344853176
Let me elaborate
Making these games prequels and not de-canonizing Invisible War was a mistake.
>>344850345
absolute power corrupts absolutely, it's a lot of faith to give one group complete power to decide what's best for everyone else
>>344853327
It's true, only if you didnt save her in the game.
>>344853295
Ha ha funny meme, unfortunately they can't just ignore a game in the series because it wasn't liked.
how is the ps2 version of deus ex?
>>344853253
When did I ever say that? It's just things that are literally happening. Look at that Oregon ranch occupation.
>>344852732
They probably died.
>>344853476
;_;
>>344853473
You're pretending DX's message that is about the worldwide issue of companies seizing power through corrupt politics is instead about americans getting muh guns laws because having daily shootings is literally happening ONLY in the US. You're exactly the kind of people who's getting manipulated and tricked and yet when people point to the moon, you stare at the finger. Fucking embarassing.
>>344853435
Graphics are arguably better, and soundtrack is orchestrated. Aside from that, it's worse. Levels are scaled down and reorganized, few customers, quests, and scripted events are cut, and load times are longer.
It's still recognizably Deus Ex, but you're better off playing PC.
>>344853618
>having daily shootings is literally happening ONLY in the US
>>344853663
>Haha it also happens in Angola and Liberia
Good job keeping yourself at that level.
>>344853618
What the shit are you talking about, you autistic moron. I just pointed out that a lot of shit he wrote in the back story is happening. I never voiced a fucking political opinion, or started praising lolbertarian ideas.
Fuck off, you drooling retard.
>>344853386
Yes they can, just like Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection is going out of the window for being a trash they are
MD better fucking have an Illuminati ending.
>>344853386
But it had more or less definit Endings...
>>344853663
It has the highest murder rate by firearms of any developed nation.
>>344853710
>Warren Spector accurately predicted current events
agreed, but then you go on rambling about muh guns when you're 100% missing the actual point of the game. Fairly sure you're the drooling retard.
>>344853639
wow. this UI is hideous.
>>344853791
That's literally what fucking happens on liberal networks, and is what caused the NSF to break away.
I don't even own a gun, fuck off.
>>344853345
>communist country
>"where libertarians get there way"
It's almost like socialism doesn't work and ends up libertarian anyway.
Well at least you leftards are finally admitting defeat.
>>344853639
>customers
Obviously I meant cutscenes. Fuck autocorrect.
>>344848805
>All they wanted was to restrict augs to not be walking death mobiles anymore.
Excluding their augs, obviously.
>>344853884
"communist"
You know, because Congo calls itself Democratic Republic of Congo it doesn't make it true.
China is 100% capitalist, all means of production are owned by billionaires. I don't expect amerifats to know anything past whatever drivel your news channel dump in your face (who are oddly enough owned by a handful of billionaires) but you guys enjoy being used as lackeys by a handful of old wealthy assholes. No, a country where all the resources, media and companies are owned by private entities isn't communist.
>it's almost as socialism doesn't work
t. someone with 0 education who never read an actual book
Pic related, you.
Never played the games, are Illuminati connected to other NWO conspiracy theories like Saturn, the black cube, Moloch and other occult stuff?
>>344853956
Well yeah, do you see anyone else owning a fully operational loaded tank in this age besides the goverment?
>suddenly a buttmad leftist sperging out
Go away dude.
>>344853791
There's no need to be upset
>>344853780
Is murder by firearm supposed to be worse than murder by knife or something? Why not try looking at stats for all murder.
>>344853742
>that guy on the right
>>344854018
>being this autistic
Fucking Europeons.
Hopefully MD will have some sexy augmented women, HR's shitty mute Rihanna knockoff didnt do anything for me.
>>344853742
>We Will Be Watching, Trump
>>344854018
Whatever left-o-fuck. When you ask for a tyranny, the tyrants rule. Teddy bears like you get lined up and shot.
NO PRITCHARD NO BUY
>>344848805
Dude,Page is spreading its influence all over the Illuminati's infrastructure, main bases and the HQ worldwide, we saw the capability of the Illuminati in Human Revolution, in Mankind Divided we see Page readying his plan to Coup Illuminati and found the MJ12.
And no,I really didn't assume you knew anything, I really didn't.
>>344854018
>"Karl Marx told me that Socialism works, so it works you fucking retard"
t. Guy with flawless logic who cannot possibly be wrong
>>344854098
muh dick
ITT
>>344854313
>Marx wrote his texts with scientific accuracy, irrefutable statements with solid logical links between them
>uhh it doesn't work because the guy in the tv said so
>>344853253
What does it matter if the organization controlling your life is a government, a corporation, or a secret society? It's semantics. The point of the series is how wrong it is for a group of people to exercise such complete control of the masses.
And I'll keep my right to shoot niggers, thank you very much.
>>344851182
>post yfw the juggernaut collective is actually an MJ12 operation and janus is deadalus
>>344854361
>all of the options are garbage
Way to go, Murrica.
>>344854361
I am literally laughing out loud, thank you.
>>344854361
>irrefutable statements
>He thinks no valid criticism of Marxism has ever been made
And you're going to sit here and imply other people are ignorant?
Really?
>>344854361
Wow you're right. Give us that sick list of successful communist countries, bro. What's on it? Soviet Union? Vietnam? North Korea? Laos? Venezuela?
Damn man, beautiful countries. Not a single oppressive shithole.
>not real communists
>>344854018
The communist party holds all the reigns and can influence anything and everything within their country. Given the level of intertwining of politics and money, you could say that China is a fascist society with some Marxist flavor added.
Post some dude sex memes
>>344854537
>some asshole seizes power by force
>turns into a great working government
Literally never happened, even with capitalist states, see Pinochet, Franco, Hitler, Stalin etc.
>>344854623
I'm not big into books.
>>344854623
I've got one>Deus Ex was a great game
>>344854361
>>344854361
This fucking guy. Now it becomes clear.
>>344854556
China is a capitalist market with tons of governmental corruption with communist imagery/symbolism, it's anything but a socialist/communist state, if anything it's its perfect antithesis.
>>344854623
Me during the whole fucking game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ZGsgvCkjo
>>344854662
>true communism has never happened
WEW LADS I WAS WAITING FOR THAT
TAKE A DRINK
>>344854721
Since true communism is a worldwide stateless classless system, it's not a hard statement to make.
>>344853663
I think he escaped from the Subnautica general.
>>344854720
holy fuck thats hilarious
>>344854623
howdo u invend a swordd fugg :-DD
>halfway through playing Invisible War for the first time
>considering dropping it and replaying the original or HR
Jesus, this game is so fucking boring.
How did JC get so quippy even though he was raised to be a MJ12/UNATCO tool from a young age?
>>344854361
According to the text there should actually be portrait of Merkel next to the fascism.
>>344854773
Did you seize the means of production to move that goalpost?
How did I do? Did I made a mistake?
>>344848805
>defending the illuminati
I wonder who would do that...
>>344848805
Because HR is just a casualized HD version of the original Deus Ex.
You get to choose if you want to become a god, if you want to join the illuminati, or erase any tech in the world.
There's no "right" way, it's up to you. With HR, choices are way less powerful
>>344855218
>Season Pass
Getting it right now is a mistake desu.
>>344855218
>preordering digital games
>preordering DLC
Yes
>>344852683
>Jensen doesn't even say anything about it when he sees this
Why..
>>344855273
> choices are way less powerful
Well yeah, if you make a prequel you cant really alter much knowing it has to tie into the DX1 and IW timeline.
>>344850561
My dear mad brexiter, is your justified racism on the streets really worth all the damages to your own collapsing economy?
>>344855273
Whoa hang on. I've beaten Deus Ex on realistic several times and I have to say HR is far more difficult. You can only die instantly from a sniper's headshot in Deus Ex 1 whereas just about everything in HR will one shot you on Give me Deus Ex
Not to mention Deus Ex 1 had a very powerful regeneration augmentation and medkits which could instantly recover your health
>>344855273
who cares. they both had shitty endings.
>>344855218
You did great, anon. It's always a good idea to pre-order from Steam, in case they run out of digital copies.
>>344855420
>whereas just about everything in HR will one shot you on Give me Deus Ex
Yeah, but outside of bossfights, you never have to get shot in HR, because every level has the convenient path of desks and waist-high wall cover that you can swap between using one fucking button.
>>344855389
Thunderfoot pls
>>344854056
murder by knife takes balls, any pussy can fire a gun
>>344855540
There's plenty of cover in Deus Ex 1 as well and the AI is quite easy to trick by throwing objects. I mean certain things in Deus Ex 1 like the gas grenades, pepper spray and stun prod keep enemies CCed for up to 20 seconds. Once you get the invisibility aug and a steady stock of biocells you completely break the game
>>344855389
>racism
that word has lost its meaning my liberal friend
>>344855347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKLmZNnMT0A
>>344855170
HOLY FUCK! BTFO!
>>344854361
>Marx wrote this text without ever working his ass off as some blue collar worker working day to day to scrap by
>>344856023
what did he mean by this?
>>344855170
>haha true communism has been achieved and failed
>but it wasn't, it shares literally nothing with the actual definition of communism
>HAHAHA U MOVE GOLAPSOST
No?
>>344855540
you're complaining there was opportunities for stealth now?
wow.
>>344855671
>murder by knife takes balls
Pff, get back to me when you can murder with a small rock you fucking casual
This is the neo-/v/ we live in.
>>344856154
>real communism was never tried: the electric boogaloo duo
Time for another sippy.
>>344856154
True communism is not required to be world wide. Put the goalpost down.
>>344855595
>that first choice
>>344856226
>small rock
>not fists
Dont talk to me or my wifes son ever again.
>>344855849
Bastard haha
>>344855991
>dedicated his entire life towards theoretical studies
>hurr economical theory is only valid if you worked in a factory
>>344851182
This makes way too much sense. I hate it
>>344855540
>literally complaining the levels are designed for a stealth playthrough
>>344853435
Playing it right now. Graphics are utter shit if you're used to modded DX, but still better than the original release. Big levels are split in many parts, but the game has a few CG cutscenes. Models are a bit better, and so is the camera during dialogues. Energy is unified under a single bar, but music is orchestrated.
I'm kinda conflicted. It's like a slightly easier Deus Ex, but you can now use a controller. I'm playing it on my sofa, using my huge tv, and my god it's so comfy.
>>344856347
Well, since time and actual practice has proven his theories to be shit, he would have been better off working in a factory.
>>344856268
>Marxist philosophy held that because capitalism had become global (and thus capitalists could be expected to cooperate internationally to maintain dominance in class conflict), the proletariat would need to cooperate internationally as well, via proletarian internationalism, to avoid continued subjugation via divide and rule (thus the rallying cry of workers of the world, unite!).
>Anthem of Communism is literally called "L'internationale"
>Communist gatherings are called Worker's internationals
I'm sure you've been fed very accurate and fair data though.
>>344856347
>hurr I'm with you guys but I never experienced your hard ships but I totally understand you
I do assume you are baiting, no-one can be this deluded.
>>344856523
>music is orchestrated
>>344856609
It's talking about cooperating internationally, not dominating the world 100% without a trace of any other ideology. Go back to school anon.
>>344856654
Why is he doing The Robot while talking?
>>344856721
He's part robot.
>>344856552
His theories are so shit that they still are the maxime of the second most powerful nation on the planet, China. And that they are still part of the philosophical and economical/social discourse. Maybe if you weren't so commited to vidya practice you would also be aware that his theories have developed and been adjusted. Adam Smith isn't a fraud either, just because national economy has changed and proven some of his concepts to be wrong over time.
>>344856627
What a weird coincidence that the proletarians of his time supported marx and adopted his ideas.
>>344856768
What a weird coincidence his ideas failed many times and only his delusional belivers think, it wasn't his true form of ideology.
>>344856768
>His theories are so shit that they still are the maxime of the second most powerful nation on the planet, China.
>China
>communist
You haven't been paying attention have you? That huge economic boom they've been enjoying has not been because of communism.
>>344853663
>N-no! Dozen of people dies every single day because mass shootings in civilized countries too!
Is this actually what your tv is telling you?
>>344856410
Why does Deus Ex always have the most rascist stereotypes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a8r7xQvS1g
>>344856768
dude stop
>>344853368
it's what happened in dx1
even in dxhr, members of the illuminati already started to abuse power for their own gain. the aug genocide is due to that.
>>344856897
MISTAH JC DENTON IN DA FRESH
>>344856897
TALKIN' SHIT BOUT MY BABY MUMA MUUFUGGA?!
>want to buy the original Deus Ex
>due to exchange rate shenanigans the GoG version is literally triple the price of the Steam version
>the itch came right at the worst possible time by arriving literally right after the summer sales ended
>>344856835
Communism failed, no doubt, but many of his ideas and theoretical notions have been adopted in general and many of those who failed have been re-developed by later thinkers such as Lukacs or Adorno, two of the most significant intellectuals of the 20th century
>>344856859
No doubt, China isn't communist. But they are marxist. Do you know how they justify their change to capitalism? They say that in the current economical and global circumstances marxist theory dictates that they have to adapt. Every chinese person still learns Marx in school and the communist party still claims that the country is communist. It is of course nothing but an ideological lie. What i said was: Marxism is the maxime. I didn't say it was the reality.
Don't know why people flip their shit, i'm neither a communist nor a marxist and i still can have an educated opinion on it.
>>344855893
Enjoyed killing the fuck out of that guy later in the game.
>>344855464
They did run out of wolfenstein 2009 :^)
>>344857073
Just pirate it. The old devs are long gone, they'll never see your money if you buy it.
>>344857084
>Marx wrote his texts with scientific accuracy, irrefutable statements with solid logical links between them
Post stupid shit like that and people will call you a retard. Your educated opinion is worth fuck all.
>>344856897
IF IT AINT THE CAP'N HISSELF
>>344857189
This little fucka got smoked so hard they were serving him next day on the street.
>>344857290
except i'm not that guy.
>>344857335
Lucky you.
Do I need to play the first Dayus Eggs first to play Homo Evolution?
>>344849972
>Brexit was bad
Corporation spotted.
>>344857393
The first dude sex is a much better game, you should play it anyway.
>>344857393
HR is the prequel but they havent made much connection with the 1st game yet because in 2016, everything must be a franchise.
>>344857393
It's a prequel so no, there are alot of references you will miss though.
>>344857393
No. You will just understand the opening cutscene slightly better. HR is a prequel to Deus Ex after all
I wish DXMD was out already.
I'm bored and have no better games to play.
I've resorted to diablo clones.
>>344857393
Not at all, it's a prequel after all. At most you'll be confused by one character that appears in the introthat you never see again
>>344854997
God, game is so dull without Revision. Fuck y'all niggas, I don't think I'll touch the un modded version ever again
>>344856897
OOOOOWWWEEEEE CHIL'!
>>344857463
>yuropoor has tastes
>>344857393
>>344857393
no, the first sucks.
>>344855138
He's still an Adam Jensen clone, after all
>>344857578
>Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>344857393
No, but it'll improve the experience by a lot. Dudesex1 is actually pretty great if you can get used to the controls and stealth within the first 4 hours of the game.
>>344857597
Number 1
That's terror.
>>344857578
Get outta here
>>344857495
get a job.
>>344857470
>>344857475
>>344857489
>>344857493
>>344857497
>>344857578
>>344857624
Good. Because I wanted to play the first Deuce Exe, but the controls were garbage.
>>344857247
I miss when you could murder children.
>>344857668
You're a casual shit. Homo revolution was made for you.
>She keeps asking for credits
Well at least it was an accurate representation of an Australian woman
>>344857642
it's hard to get a job
>>344857641
>that item in slot 3
Didn't know that Bad Dragon was a thing back then.
>>344857707
Don't be so rude you poop excavator.
>>344857668
Just rebind.
>>344857787
Don't be so casual shitstain.
>>344855753
What's screaming "BACK TO AFRICA YOU NIGGERS, MAKE BRITAIN WHITE AGAIN" called in UK?
>>344853067
What's wrong with the director's cut
>every time II start another DE playthrough I vow to do a stealth non-lethal melee playthrough using only the prod, baton and crossbow
>end up massacring everyone with the dragons tooth everytime
>>344857838
Why anyone would bribe Hundley when they can just help this guy
>>344857641
>>344857597
thanks for the (you)s, chumps.
>>344857921
I know that feel
>>344857463
Man, it's some sad shit that people have the same simplistic opinion as some random NPC in an old game.
>>344857934
They really should have put some security on the second and third levels
>>344857936
Are you bored or something?
>>344854720
>Hold on to that ammo, I'm carrying too much gear
In DE, ammo had its own thing and didn't take up space in your inventory.
>>344858026
>not killing Maggie Chow in her apartment
>>344857921
>try to do a non stealth run on HR on my first playthrough
>save malik part comes up
>end up murdering everyone on my blades.
>>344858071
so the original is casual in comparison to hr in this regard? cool
>>344858145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS187IggPT8
best music
>>344858150
>non stealth
Fuck I mean full stealth
>>344858116
I usually do. I smash the windows, throw her body down to the street below and hop across to Jock's apartment
>>344858159
To be honest the original is only more complicated in terms of its health system
It also has more augmentations but they only help you break the game further
Why do these games try to shove the controversies and drawbacks of augmentation down the player's throat if they're gonna have you play as the one guy in the world who doesn't have to worry about any of that shit?
>>344858398
Because 'Find and take some Neuropozyne before your augs stop working' isn't a fun game mechanic.
>>344858505
Then don't have that element in your universe at all.
They waste so much energy trying to get the player to care about something that they rightfully shouldn't give two shits about because it doesn't effect them in any way.
>>344858398
That was just Adam, nano-augmentation had no drawbacks
Im looking for a cyberpunk game to play, is deus ex good?
>>344858026
let's see: it's 5 am and I'm on 4chan.
what do you think?
>>344858587
What level is that? I don't remember that place.
>>344858623
makes your eyes glow
>>344858649
I hear shadowrun games are good.
tried them but they're not really my thing.
>>344858649
HR is probably better in the cyberpunk regard but both are good
>>344858693
paris nightclub i think
>>344857707
Anon.
"Not being casual" isn't about "liking shitty awful controls". It's about being able to get past them and still enjoy the game.
You look like someone that got his education and logic by old /v/ memes.
>>344858693
>>344858782
Yep
You have to go in to meet Nicolette DuClare
>>344858649
That gif makes funny things happen in my pants.
>>344858859
>implying the controls are awful
If you don't know how to rebind controls you are the definition of a casual.
>>344858995
more like lucius coldbeers
lol
>>344859042
lol
>>344856897
AH DUN KNOW THA PACIFICS
>>344858505
Remember how in Deus Ex 1, Gunther and Anna couldn't type out coherent sentences, because it turned out having the strength to punch through a wall meant that you had to sacrifice the dexterity for finer tasks?
Those are the kind of choices I wish Human Revolution forced you to make.
>>344857525
Yet america literally prides itself on that.
>>344858702
but it means I can wear my sunglasses at night
>>344859106
No, only Gunther made spelling mistakes.
>>344859256
Well at least the desire for judgement part was correct
>>344859106
i thought it was only gunther that did that because he's a meathead without a firm grasp on the english language
>>344859330
and I loved them
>>344857668
>There are people so worthless they don't even know how to rebind keys.
>>344858398
>>344859106
You're trying to find issues where there are none.
>>344859343
>ruins of los angeles
>>344858989
>he thinks "shitty controls" means "shitty controls layout"
You're liking more and more like an elaborate troll, anon.
>>344859493
Then describe what is shit about them? They're pretty much the same as HR which was the other game being discussed. Speak sense shitposter.
>>344858649
It's literally THE cyberpunk game to what others are compared to.
>>344859413
>rebinding keys will fix shitty controls
Stop this meme.
Hello agent.
>>344859786
*runs past you*
>not merging with Helios
>>344859714
If you spend half a minute of fixing keybinds it works just about like any modern game with comparable complexity of gameplay mechanics.
>>344859846
>being cucked by the ai jew
The only thing I want out of the game is the ability to throw Megan Reed out a window, like that one part in Punisher MAX. Bitch was a collaborator and needs comeuppance.
Look at this UI, they're competing with Ubisoft Montreal for who can make the worst shit ever.
What's with canadians and awful UIs?
>>344859828
>w-what the?
>HE'S TOO FAST
>>344859457
Why should the player be expected to care about something that doesn't effect them in any way? It just makes your setting feel hollow.
Either incorporate it into the gameplay or don't have it in the first place.
So will the biblical analogy hold in Manking Divided?
Adam Jensen = Biblical Adam ushering forth the age of human augmentation through his body not rejecting them.
JC Denton = Jesus Christ redeeming humanity from sin (through helios)
>>344857718
>thanks for gettin' me in
>thanks for gettin' me in
>thanks for gettin' me in
>thanks for gettin' me in
>thanks for gettin' me in
>thanks for gettin' me in
ive been ignoring all the anti hype for this since /v/ made hating DE:HR its personal favorite past time 5 years ago.Holy fuck ive waited 5 years for this it better be goodAnything is better than nothing
>>344852492
I spent a lot of energy and resources to save the bitch non lethal moralfag playthrough
>>344859786
>GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>344859931
Honestly Siege had a servicable UI if a little clunky at least u can probably turn it all off
>>344859994
/v/ loved HR
not sure what you're talking about.
>>344860145
hmmm yeah what could possibly go wrong, seems like a safe idea
>>344860160
How young are you?
>2010 /v/ hated it said it would be crap based on cinematic cgi trailerslul
>2011 beta leaks itsamazingfirst couple of levels essentially complete basically a demo
>most of /v/ fucking loved it and got the full game when it came out
There where some bitter tards that still hate DE:HR but i dont really know why.
>>344859994
>>344859994
>Anything is better than nothing
>>344859887
What does that even mean?
>>344859931
I liked HR's UI. this new one looks garbage. Too bad the game isnt moddable thanks to denuvo.
>>344857049
I'd post the Reuntal picture if I had it.
>>344860289
that's.... what I said.
you tired bro?
>>344859994
>/v/ hated HR
/v/ hated it up to the e3 build leak. they shat on it like any other game untill that point.
>>344859935
>VERY fast low-res dog running at incredible hihg speed
>>344859931
what's wrong with it?
>>344860297
Well that isnt a fair comparison though is it?!
DE:HR is a modern classic, visually dated sure but plays great all the same.
DE aged good considering how old it is
IW is the one i wont touch but i am sure some people here liked it.>>344860383
Yeah got the flu im gonna bow out laters game looks sick]
>>344860424
Some people hated it even more
>1st to 3rd person transition in cover
>muh piss filterthis one was fair because every game at the time had a yellow blue or grey filter
Only issue i have with the game was that the graphics where pretty sub par but the art style more than made up for it.
>>344860534
i really dig this low poly look.
Shame in most games it doesnt age nearly this well or maybe its because i have very fond memories of ut99
>>344860541
I didnt mind the graphics. It was the bethesda tier animation that bothered me the most. I kinda liked HR's graphics. it has its charm.
>>344860480
Not him but you should always opt for making it as least invasive as possible. Deus Ex 1s is worse I'll just say that first
The MD UI doesn't need such large icons for a start, nor a mini-map. The worst thing I can see though is those disgusting health and energy bars, those need an overhaul
>>344860541
>got the flu
>in the summer
>>344860776
>Americans
Oh yeah because the other side of the globe we all totally have the same seasons at the same time
>mfw it was really hot this winter in australia right now
Mate come on
>>344860775
they probably changed it by now. that's usually last.
>>344860735
Everyone in HR looked like they really needed to take a shit.
>>344860776
There is a southern hemisphere, anon
Also while the virus thrives better in winter it is still entirely possible to get it during summer, especially with a weaker immune system
>>344860903
it's actually been like autumn here for some reason. I think I'm getting a cold too.
>>344860874
>>344860938
No he's right anons i have the 'flu' in 'summerwhy are yanks so stupid
>>344857896
Reclamation of the Empire.
>>344860776
>being this dense
I bet you also believe that you get caries if you eat sugar for days and don't brush your teeth
>>344860984
here in aus its been a fucking unseasonably cold and HOT at the same time the temp is fucked
>one day 0-8 degrees all day
>literally next day 25-30+
Its nuts
Then there so much wind a tree fell on my car shits going nuts yo
I will BURN like the brightest star!
>>344860940
>that hand gesture they all did
you know the one.
STICK WITH THE PROD
PROD WITH THE PROD
>>344861003
just end yourself shitposter.
>>344860908
This is from last month. I think they've made it look worse
First thing I'll do when I play the game is disable object highlights
>>344861061
I'll bet you believe jogging is actually healthy.
>>344859559
>they're pretty much the same
No they're not. They're clunky and apparently not as accurate, they make you slow and put stealth as the better choice over combat. The feel is completely different. By denying that you're basically saying that exploring the DX environments and the HR levels is only different in terms of graphics, and we both know it isn't true.
Most of the (few) bad comments about DX (by those who tried, but don't actually finish it) are about controls or IA. There's a fucking army of people that started with HR, simply because it's more approachable. And the reason isn't it's more simple (it's way more fucking hard if you play on max difficulty), it's because the first thing the player feels about the gameplay (so, the controls) aren't fucking shit by modern standards.
>b-but! Fuck you you said it! "Modern standards", you're just a casual!
Anon, the controls of a game aren't ever shit on their own, they can be shit compared to pretty much every other game out there. Ocarina of Time did have amazing controls, but they're old as shit now. Saying "this game really have good controls!" in 1998 was ok. Saying it now is a lie.
Sure thing, you can argue that some games had controls that still holds up today (I would say Quake 3), but it's not Deus Ex' case.
While it's still perfectly playable without fixes (unlike the first System Shock), pretty much anyone that plays videogames today can tell you about FPSs and RPGs with way less awkward controls. That's because we have two decades of advancement in vidya, anon. And if you automatically think that "advancement= casualness", then you're proving me right, you actually got your education by old /v/ memes.
>>344861084
The GEP gun is the most silent way to eliminate Manderley
>>344861087
What how the fuck is that a shitpost? All i said was i have the flu and you sperg out
nice one deus ex machinima yourself faggot
>>344861134
nice to at least have the option of the map. if they're bigger it might be handy.
>>344861159
>mfw been stuck in bed for 2 weeks with this flu
i get this shit every year it fucking sucks
>>344861134
>xboxhueg aug icons
>red bar of ???
>absurdly massive minimap
Send help, I'm losing hype. This shit is actually offensive, especially if this will be the final PC hud.
>>344861159
nope
how did you get that idea eventhough I didn't even specify my interpretation of the human health?
>>344861067
I blame the Illuminati
>>344861325
i blame global warming and weird ass el nino/nina shit
>>344860480
XBOXHUEG background, ugly fonts
would be fine if there are only words and numbers on screen.
>>344861134
>that fucking crouched icon
stop
>>344861239
Do you want to elaborate on what's supposed to be so bad about the controls, though?
>>344861432
gotta know you're crouched, dawg.
>>344861367
So the Illuminati
>>344861067
Here in Tassie my power went out last night and only came back on at like 5.
Then it went out again an hour later.
>>344861451
Read the thread
>>344861262
>tfw haven't gotten the flu in years
why do you people leave the house?
stay safe. stay well.
>>344861498
unless you are a manlet, there is no reason not to know such basic thing.
>>344861501
close the ausluminati
basically a bunch of pissed off their tree drunk rich bogans who do infinite skids in commadores all day
>>344861569
>mfw shitty power company recently cleared all the lines and this doesnt happen anymore
feels good
>>344861581
Its not leaving the house that does it to me as soon as i go outside run around i feel better
Fuck staying inside in Australia
>>344861616
>Manly tears receives his new height increasing augmentations
>>344861616
when will they learn?
>>344861616
Yeah get me outta here Malik
>>344861658
but the spiders.
>>344861717
LOL
>>344861616
quack quack
>>344861773
>not realizing spiders actually love to hide in and around houses
Mate they are everywhere
>>344861717
why is it such a big deal to make a third person mode in a fps and vice versa? I thought you just shoved a camera in the models head and called it a day. how did mirror's edge do it?
>>344852041
>"He's no good to me with his body completely destroyed and barely alive, better give him state of the art prosthetics so he'll be better healthy"
>wow what a dick
>>344861875
Its pretty old even FEAR and GRAW had full first person models
Should I play this game? Never touched DE.
>>344861983
Its a prequel/reboot so basically start with HR then move onto this when it comes out.
Literally a 10/10 series
>>344853171
Don't forget social media control with that AI that monitored and changed internet trends.
>>344861875
resource conservation and industry convention.
for example if you hip fire a gun in real life, you will see really little of it but when you do it in a vidya, people expect the gun to be above hip level... Same for air vent, they cant look too big in vidya, but a prone button add nothing to a game.
I'm playing Deus Ex GMDX on realistic here, I'm noticing I'm getting like 50 skill points on exploration, is it the difficulty reducing the skill bonuses or GMDX? Shit if I get only 50 by 50 I'm never gonna increase shit.
Also performance is a bit wonky, I'm getting drops
>>344860480
>having the need to spell it out TAKEDOWN on top of already having button prompts, treating the player like a retard
>ammo is listed twice
>having a minimap at all
>>344860775
>deus ex is worse
No it isn't. Mankind divided is as handholdy as it gets with the UI. Deus Ex showed interactivity only when close to the object, at a range you can use it, now MD seems to do it when you're looking at things across the map, which is retarded.
>>344857912
where piss filter there should b piss filter
need filter
I LIKED THE PISS FILTER
>>344853253
CORPORATIONS HAVE MORE POWER THAN THE GOVERNMENT
>>344862582
THESE PEOPLE
THEY'RE LIKE GHOSTS
>>344862306
worked on my machine.
>>344857463
Why would a corporation not want it when it's put the UK onto the fast track for being the world's best tax haven
>>344862498
Yeah but just look at all the shit on your screen in Deus Ex 1
With full augmentations it becomes a clusterfuck
>>344853791
He didn't write deus ex though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTVBSxnwiCo
Find a fucking flaw
>>344861134
I'm already hating tons of things I'm seeing, not only the UI, but this aug of the pic, when upgraded, knocks up to 4 guards at a distance. Might as well give a knock out grenade that puts all people in a area of 1 square kilometer to sleep.
so no third person mode for MD?
>>344862736
triggered
>>344862736
I guess the fruit flies WERE fully equipped.
>>344862640
it's necessary to have all those augs onscreen because you can turn them all on, because the game had shitloads of augs while Human Revolution has like 4 active augmentations, which is pretty pathetic, thanks consoles.
>>344862738
That will probably take a lot of Praxis kits to upgrade, they only had it enabled to show off in the demo.
>>344862738
good idea. we'll implement that.
>>344862736
>no gore
>>344862775
there is third person cover mode, which is already dumb and makes stealth easy
>>344862736
Wow, I didn't know you could kill him. Can you do that in the early game?
>>344862775
3rd person are for sonyggers and weeboos.
>>344863016
dx1's first person stealth sucked donkey dicks
it's less of a ballache in third person
>>344863739
of course you like it, it's easier in third person you casual shitstain
>>344863420
Only at that point later in the game
Weapons are disabled at Sarif Industries and when he meets you at your apartment it's just a cutscene
>All they wanted was to restrict augs to not be walking death mobiles anymore
And it's pretty damn convenient that the means of doing so is to give total control to them, huh?
>>344863818
now you're just putting words in my mouth
there's a difference between "casually easy" and not having the game be a ballache
>>344864131
First person only in Deus Ex was fine, lean was there for a reason. I'm not sure what was so annoying about being FPP only in DX since its AI was flawed as fuck and they would give up on checking you quickly.
In Human Revolution you can just laugh your way around cover because you can easily tell where everyone is from behind the safety of cover.
I'm calling you a casual for enjoying a very casual mechanic they introduced in HR.
>using the mini-crossbow
>>344864518
functionally leaning and a third person camera are the same, it's just one requires less buttons and happens automatically
it's less of a ballache
>>344856258
>one time when watching this Simons killed a prisoner right against the glass
>i could pick his body up through the glass
>mfw i took it all the way to battery park
>>344864587
What's the problem? The tranquilizer keeps stunning the target until they eventually get knocked out so they can't use alarms
It also lowers your risk since you can just hide behind a corner until they get knocked out
>>344864770
Except you can't take bodies between levels
>>344864737
>functionally leaning and a third person camera are the same
not if enemies can spot you while you're leaning
You can see from behind cover all the time while in 3rd person. I think you don't understand how 3rd person changes the awareness you have at all. You can easily figure out how the patrols work while you don't need to expose yourself to any risk whatsoever.
>>344852863
>South african black dude
>Afrikaans accent
BRAVO EIDOS
R
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V
O
>>344865161
>not if enemies can spot you while you're leaning
but they can't in deus ex 1, which is what I was referring to
>>344852590
It's like with Paul, sure, majority stayed and helped him during the raid on his room and then left through the window but how many actually fought through entire fucking hotel killing everyone.
>>344865817
Have you played Deus Ex 1? Enemies CAN see you if you're leaning...
>>344859410
German buff gainmaster greentexting in e-mail.
>>344864847
It's a great luring material too, they'll go and investigate if you shoot the wall in their hearing radius.
>>344865820
I didn't save Paul in DX but I saved the girl in HR, I feel like the game gave more hints that she could have saved, as the enemies approached the helicopter and such. While I just was a pussy by leaving Paul through the window.
Gonna fix that with a new playthrough of Deus Ex, just having some weird performance with GMDX right now.
>>344865928
That's where meme arrows came from, quotes in e-mails were meme arrowed.
>>344853356
It's one of those "lesser of two evils" kind of endings. None of the endings are affirmatively good or bad.
>>344852113
except for the last two
>>344850535
In all the DE games no one is clear on everyone else's motives, likewise for this one,
>>344859931
Nitpicking fag.
They already said that the HUD is completely scalable.
>>344866115
I installed GMDX yesterday, checked for kentie's DX10 dll. In order for it to work well for me I set the framerate limit high enough (200) and disabled vsync because the input lag I just cannot handle even in single player games.
Do try OpenGL though if it doesn't work for you
>>344864939
Either your memory has slipped or I'm operating with the wrong definition of "levels". I carried Maggie Chow's corpse all the way through Hong Kong and tossed it at Tracer Tong's feet as proof of my triumph. His response was to run around in circles panicking. I'm not sure what I expected.
>>344857463
Retard alert
I'm debating whether I should spend my poor man money on this.
Should I spend my poor man money on this? It just brings me down seeing that season pass thing. It's just a shame that every fucking game that's slightly big has a season pass thing now.
>>344866437
I'm using kentie launcher, I used to have bigger drops to 40 fps when staring at an open area, I put on fullscreen instead of borderless windowed and now I'm getting 50~ in those moments in liberty island.
Did you put kentie launcher after you've installed GMDX or before? I also installed the GOTY unofficial map fix before installing both.
I guess it's worth cheking vsync off.
>>344866437
You should be using OpenGL anyway. While kentie's Deus Ex on Modern Systems is great, for the amount of options and control it gives you, direct3d support has always, always been shit for this game and that hasn't changed now.
>>344866693
I installed only DX and GMDX. Didn't need the DX10 driver from the website as when I checked it was already in that folder. I didn't use the Kentie's launcher.
>>344866696
I can't find a way to disable vsync on opengl.
>>344866365
I can make other criticisms of Eidos Montreal's shitty design if you want, how 3rd person cover stealth is fucking boring, or how their new augs that knock multiple enemies out from far are stupid.
Or about the "mechanical apartheid", what a retarded story they have. Can you turn those things off too?
>>344852683
I restarted over and over again in my first playthrough until I saved her.
Flygirl best girl.
>>344849972
and as we see from your post, /v/ is full of retards
>>344864939
You can though, try it
If you're carrying the body when you go talk to the helicopter at unatco you still have it in battery park
>>344866696
Does OpenGL look worse than DX10 with GMDX and such?
test
>>344867906
>gook moot finally fixed quick reply
HOLY SHIT
>>344849972
Oh boy, here we go again.
/pol/ vs everyone else in the world.
>>344850071
Not good, they are just the power structure of the world.
They will do whatever needed to maintain power. That's why they help you in the first Deus Ex, because they're powerless during the events of that game.
If an oligarchy run to benefit the few is good for you, then yes, they illuminati are good.
>>344848805
Play the first game you dumb faggot
>>344851182
I mean, it IS a prequel, unless they are diverging from the main series events, we are meant to end up from the ok-ish world of HR to the absolute shit hole of Deus Ex.
Is the rambo playstyle still going to feel like an afterthought?
>>344867517
I just tried OpenGL and it has the good old problem with the game running faster than it should. Back to DX10 it is.
>>344868416
The only downside about Direct3D is that it's a bit dark and the brightness slider doesn't always seem to work.
>>344848805
>le secret group to control people
>not evil
And how are you benefiting from their control OP?
>>344848805
>As a faggot who picked the Taggart ending in the last game.
You're a faggot if you picked any single ending and stuck with it.
I mean seriously, I like the game and everything but picking the ending was the most pointless and inconsequential thing in the whole story. I watched them all in a row just to see what they were about and that was that.
>>344868072
the retards in /pol/ support the brexit cuz of
>muh jewish eu super state meme
>>344868575
no states sending armies against eachother and killing the progress of humananity ?
>>344869248
>EU regulating your country over the people you can elect
>a good thing
keep reading the new york times and bbc retard
>>344855226
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>>344869248
Oh it's another
>democracy is good only when it does what I want
posters.
>>344869447
>>344870516
see
>>344867817
> letting literally retards make the calls on complex problems
good idea m8
>>344869447
Oh no! Those evil EU oppressors and their evil regulations on food safety and Roaming fees. If only there were a European Parliament you can directly vote of, and if only the UK had special exceptions and veto power for everything they wanted.
Except there was a Europarliament. And the UK had veto. But who cares, le evil german jew is out, now it's only London who is doing all the privacy laws.
Just to keep it vidya, the average /pol/ browser is the one that doesn't realise the original Deus Ex was literally inspired from all the crazy conspiracy theories and the x-files.
>>344854623OH YES
>>344857983
>implying that isn't the point of the EU
Braindead leftists are a blight on this world
>>344870925
Also tons of young people are retarded. Ever seen college folk?
>>344870998
Blame that anon making it about brexit, I was just replying.
The EU parliament isn't the only institution of the EU, you do know that, right? Brussels eurocrats are a thing.
Oh yes, the poor british need 400 regulations over fucking spoons, that will make everything better!
I never said anything about jews though, it's just leftists and your strawman. If /pol/ knew what they were talking about they would understand jews aren't a monolithic group, there are anti and pro Israel jews, pro and anti abortion jews, anti and pro immigration ones and so much more.
Also Deus Ex had many messages against totalitarianism, the same you'll find in spades at the EU.
>>344860541
>DE:HR
>visually dated
Are you serious?
>>344870998
Funny how those "conspiracy theories" came true.
The whole game revolves around censoring the internet. Information control is the grandest of prizes for authoritarians and fascists, it is a very valid concern for both fictional and real worlds.
We even had an episode of our own mini-Daedalus going rogue on her masters, so they had to lobotomize her and make her into Icarus. Shit's scary.
>>344871964
reminds me of the EU wanting to censor the internet
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/21250-eu-police-will-censor-internet-to-fight-extremism
>>344857463
I don't think that's what he means. After Brexit was confirmed to be happening, a whole bunch of people took to social media to say stupid shit like
>I didn't know what we were voting on
>I didn't think we'd actually leave
>I thought my vote wouldn't count
I mean it was monumentally stupid and childish what some people were saying.
>>344871832
>Also tons of young people are retarded
Understatement of the year, I wouldn't trust millennials to run a country
>>344872168
Congratulations, you bought into a fabricated narrative.
If you actually believe that pro-EU propaganda you're truly a fucking moron.
>>344872168
More like people who didn't get their way started throwing tantrums because they have a left wing mindset which is dictatorial in its nature. They started demanding a new referendum straight away. Most of those are also young people who think old people are retarded.
The whole concept of experience is lost on them, also disagreeing with them is also a mortal sin, the nerve of those old fucks, I hope they all die already.
>>344867287
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>>344868072
>>344869248
/pol/ seems to be winning
maybe you should have obama cry on camera again to stop it
>>344866116
Never used email in my whole life if it wasn't for signing up to some shit.
Thank god I don't do a 9 to 5 job and I don't have to deal with that, the greentexting would have me kek all the time
>>344850280
>not sarif's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdHLJ92aSto
The dream...
>>344871856
It was dated when it came out, luckily the artstyle is godtier and makes up for it entirely
>>344871832
>having a degree means you are stupid
>>344875218
that's not what I said, there are people from colleges who are utterly retarded, which doesn't mean everyone with a degree is, how dumb can you be?
