>people are celebrating a phone game being successful
>said phone game being successful is going to kill the actual mainline pokemon games
>this will happen to Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing in time
If you actually like video games you should be strongly against mobile gaming as it's a cancer that kills traditional gaming
And nothing of value was lost.
Videogames are already dead,the future of the industry is interactive movies and mobile shit,deal with it.
>>344748545
You dont understand the fanboyism people have for Nintendo, it is so much deeper than traditional gaming. Nintendo fans don't give a fuck if Nintendo destroys the only relevant thing left about the in the gaming industry, as long as the company is making money, they can be happy.
It doesnt matter Nintendo has been shitting on then for the last 5 years, if a f2p social media app is all it takes to make Nintendo some quick cash, fans will literally do 180's and coming running back into Nintendos warm embrace.
>>344748545
>>this will happen to Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing in time
how
>>344748545
nope.
i actually enjoy pokemon go.
>>344748870
Nintendo announced a while back that they're making AC and FE mobile games
>>344748870
Those two series are the next games set to get a mobile game
>>344748545
oh no they'll stop releasing the same game again and again
>>344748787
everybodies a fanboy of something
>>344748589
This.
Nintendo killed fire emblem when it became waifu simulator and animal crossing became an amiibo cash in board game. If anything this is a step up for them
>>344748589
/thread
Hopefully this kills off the entire Nintendo handheld line so they can just focus on consoles again.
Pokemon Go will die once they start adding Pokemon from Gen 3 onwards, all of the dudebros and basic bitches who suddenly love Pokemon won't have interest in it anymore.
>implying it will kill pokemon when 3ds games print money aswell
>>344748545
>animal crossing GO
i fucking need this.
I dont understand how Nintendo fans can flip flop so easily. On one hand everybody knew and agreed it was mobile shit that was killing handhelds and now thousands of Nintendo fans are looking the other way and will basically allow it. Superficial fans man
>>344748970
>killed animal crossing
you're exaggerating
the bait and switch with the shitty spin-off game was really underhanded, but it's not like we've gotten an equivalent of fire emblem fates or something
>>344748545
>pokemon games will be on devices everyone owns and wont require at least one 200$ handheld that looks and feels like a toy
>nintendo will make fucking huge money and their fanbase will be allowed to play their games without looking like the hugest losers.
>everyones celebrating about something that literally everyone is enjoying with effectively no downsides, especially for the company's wallets
>"it's a cancer"
fuck off you manchild. first you complain about mobile games being shit and not real games, and then people try to bring real games there and you throw a huge bitchfit. have fun being a huge bitch with the most irrelevant opinion in the world while everyone else has fun.
>>344749223
>animal crossing GO
>Isabelle in my basement
>>344749317
>people try to bring real games
Pokemon Go is made for le 90s kids hipsters who don't actually like Pokemon.
New Pokemon are still ridiculously popular btw, X and Y sold 15 million, and did you even see the hype for the Sun and Moon announcements? Fuck off you dumb genwunner.
>>344748976
well duh because people will suddenly stop caring about catching them all once theres nearly a thousand of them.
especially when they keep adding new ones that look like shit.
>>344749317
>pokemon games will be on devices everyone owns and wont require at least one 200$ handheld that looks and feels like a toy
>but they will only have 5% of the features a normal handheld pokemon game would have
pick two and fuck off you fucking faggot
Pokémon go isn't even a real game
>>344749406
>new ones that look like shit.
*tips*
>>344749317
It's not a real game don't kid yourself
>>344749317
>I wish tradditional gaming methods would die so I don't have to feel like a manchild in his mid twenties playing pokemon and instead can feel mature while playing dumbed down smartphone apps in my mature smartphone
>>344748545
>If you actually like video games
What if I said I don't? :^)
>>344749406
>people will suddenly stop caring about catching them all once theres nearly a thousand of them.
is that why XY and ORAS sold gangbusters?
Is that why there's a huge amount of hype behind Sun and Moon especially with another worldwide release? Because people are sick of it?
>they release mobile FE
>has nothing to do with the actual game, it's just a dating sim where you buy outfits for your 'soldiers'
FE is already dead, this is all I can see them doing with the fanbase they're aiming for.
Also I really doubt they can replicate the atmosphere of Animal Crossing on mobile.
I like mobile games. Especially when they get fat nerds bust an artery over something so trivial.
The rest of the world aggrees mobile games are video games, Anon.
>>344749591
>i'm le epin troll
>>>/b/
Shoo shoo
This is logical progression for pokemon. Probably lead to better AR integration and likely VR development for the franchise in future. Can't say that sounds like a bad thing to me.
Bit of a shame the combat has been dumbed down by the seemingly infinite CP system, though
>>344748545
Mobile games aren't the problem.
Shitty low effort casual mobile games are.
Make a game worth playing and I won't give a shit what it's being played on.
>>344749401
>inserting your genwunner boogeyman this hard
>phone games are still not real games theyre for fake meme people all the fun and money is just a lie and a meme LALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU
it must be frustrating to go from insignificant to completely irrelevant, now not just to most people but to other loser nerds and the people who profit off of you. shame.
>>344749553
Shh, anon, they're a reddit GOposter. They're probably on their phone, flipping between 4chan and faceook, reposting the newest meme as if they made it.
Just ignore them and hopefully they'll leave when the GO fad ends.
DOn't give up, anon, maybe if you continue posting the same thread for a few more weeks the pain in your derrière will subside.
Don't wait on me, I'll be defending my gym while Nintendo swim in the profits
>>344749682
>completely irrelevant
>XY sold 15 million
stay assmad
>>344748545
ugh
go suck a dick op
we can never have a variety In media NEVER
>>344749748
Pokemon Go has been downloaded over 30 million times.
There's literally no reason for Nintendo to continue the mainline series when the app is grossing Nintendo 5 million US per day.
Face it Pokemon on manchild toys are irrelevant, smartphones is the future for Nintendo ips, face it you manchild
>>344749821
yeah and when Sun and Moon comes out and gets sales numbers that are par for the course for a pokemon game, nintendo will realize that the only reason so many people downloaded Go is because its free.
Gofags are literally poorfag niggers.
>>344748545
>Nintendo they will die they will
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee why won't nintendo finally die i want MY company to win
>>344749821
>There's literally no reason for Nintendo to continue the mainline series when the app is grossing Nintendo 5 million US per day.
>There is literally no reason to make more money using the publicity the free game made
Are you retarded?
>>344749821
>literally no reason
How about the fact that they can make more money? Continue the hype behind GO? You do realize that the mainline Pokemon series is made in house by Nintendo and Pokemon GO is made by Google, or at least a company that used to be part of Google, right?
>>344749896
You shouldn't ask that question. It's pretty evident.
>>344749890
What
I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say but mobile shit is killing handheld and console gaming
>/v/ is begging for nintendo to go back to making the worlds shittiest hardware, amiibos, and rehashes 100% and never make apps again.
>they have no intent to stop making console games but even one app is enough to start the SPREAD OF CANCER
>"ENOUGH NORMIE FAKE GAMES NEVER DO IT AGAIN, WHAT WE NEED IS MORE GAMES WHERE YOU FIGHT 8 TRAINERS AND AN ELITE 4 ALONGSIDE A RIVAL AND A POKEMON GANG LITERALLY UNTIL THE END OF TIME. IF YOU GET BORED JUST START MAKING YOUR NEXT MARIO WHERE HE REACHES THE FLAG POLE AND BEATS BOWSER"
This is why nintendo fans are the laughing stock of the internet. You guys know you dont have to pledge allegiance to a japanese toy company, right?
>>344748545
>Like phone games
>"oh boy, I better not support this or else they will make other things I like"
How retarded are you? You support what you want, others will support what they want. Don't tell people to not do shit they like because it will maybe affect your enjoyment in the future.
>>344749941
Maybe the Vita.
The 3DS did plenty well, especially after the bad start
>>344749952
I have no allegiance to Nintendo, I want mobile shit to die completely
>>344749984
No the 3ds is still the worst selling nintendo handheld to date.
>>344749821
>There's literally no reason for Nintendo to continue the mainline series when the app is grossing Nintendo 5 million US per day.
Besides making even more bank by doing both?
This is some next gen Tamagotchi bullshit. Fucking faggots.
>>344749952
>caring about pokemon single player beyond interest in the lore
how casual can you get.
>>344749952
Wow, you took what the average retarded sonypony shitpost and put it on nintendo fan.
You are pretty good at that willfull retardation thing.
>live in middle of nowhere
>literally 5 miles to nearest pokestop
>nothing anywhere
>can't play game
>>344750003
>Making more bank
Talking like a nigger. Opinion lynched and disregarded.
>>344750001
And it still did plenty well with the bad start, anon.
Unless you wanna explain to me how 60 million is bad. i'm sure it will be incredibly insightfull.Go ahead
>>344750079
>said the broke nigger who can't afford a 3DS
>>344749987
The majority of humanity thinks that you are a fag for liking videogames.
>>344750105
It's not bad in itself, it's bad compared to older nintendo handhelds and shows the shrinking market for dedicated handheld gaming devices, which is not a good thing.
>>344750152
So, it's not bad, got it.
Wew, for a moment there you sounded like you were saying the 3DS was bad, which was hilariously stupid, even for you.
Glad we could clear that up.
>>344748545
shut up lazy fat fuck.
>>344748545
>said phone game being successful is going to kill the actual mainline pokemon games
What? Pokemon GO is devoid of content and die down after a few months like any other casual game.
>Next GTA will be a mobile app where you walk around killing virtual cops in your own city
>Next Resident Evil will be a mobile app where you walk around killing virtual zombies in your own city
>Next Elder Scrolls will be a mobile app where you walk around killing virtual skeletons in your own city
thanks nintendo
>>344750110
I have a new3DSXL.
You act like it's a fucking luxury.
>>344749952
Back the tape up.
Pokemon, as a game/franchise, is designed specifically to appeal to the autistic collector in all of us.
Every generation the number of Pokemon, moves, items, etc. increases, and the various interactions/matchups/relevancies that have to be catalogued accordingly changes and increases as well.
It's literally Bug Collecting: The Videogame. FFS "Gotta Catch em All" is its tagline.
So why the surprise when, upon seeing that 80% of the actual game content (which always grows and is NEVER cut generation-to-generation) has been removed for Go, a number of people think it's a bad sign for the future of the franchise?
Go isn't a bad game because it's on phones, it's a bad game because it's been shrunken and reduced and made worse for its release on phones.
And what that says for the future of the franchise, and for the future of similarly-positioned franchises if Go manages to maintain its success, is not great.
>>344750329
It's almost like there's another of the mainline pokemon releasing in a few months but you had to disregard that because it completely shrek your little shit text.
>>344750282
How would a VR zombie mobile game not be the tightest shit ever if done right?
Imagine having your home be put down as a base and having to go outside to pick up resources while avoiding hoardes of the undead.
>>344749952
>wahhhh muh single player muh 8 gyms
>not caring about meta breakers: the gen
Stay butthurt, casual.
>>344750389
This is true, and these games were in simultaneous development.
And if Go makes 25x the net revenue of Moon/Sun, what do you think Nintendo is going to put their financial backing in for the NEXT round of releases?
>>344748545
I enjoy it, and have less time to play games like before.
I played during the golden age, and happy it's over, and i don't care about the shit future generation are gonna eat.
>>344750389
Not him, but the mainline is trash.
I get why people are upset. The idea of making the most amount of money with the least amount of effort is frightening to long time fans of gaming, and that's where all this is headed given how mediocre and devoid GO is.
Nintendo is all about gimmicks and casual appeal. So you can bet they'll forsake their fans again to venture in this market. Like they've done since the Wii.
>>344748545
>UAAAAAA UUAAAAAAA my favourite franchise is making money in the wrong way UAAAAAA muh special seekrit club
I can smell your cholesterol levels from here
>>344750329
>Go isn't a bad game because it's on phones, it's a bad game because it's different.
Oh, ok.
>>344750472
Probably a lot of different things since they're a very large corporation.
>this thread
>>344750472
Well, Gen 6 grossed close to a billion, so, not happening.
Thena again, i don't know why i try to reason with a retard. It's pretty clear that you are too far up your own ass to see the big picture
>>344750531
>The idea of making the most amount of money with the least amount of effort is frightening to children who are just now becoming cognizant of the world around them.
We're talking about Pokemon. You people are so tone deaf it's astonishing.
>>344750531
i'm sure if you cry harder someone will care about you stupidity.
Maybe on Reddit?
>>344750423
>4x weak to quake
>meta breaker
Keeeeeeeeeeeek
>>344750556
Nice strawman
>>344750615
People seriously underestimate how much hype there is behind new pokemon generations. People forget that XY is what convinced a lot of people to get a 3DS.
>>344750654
>You people
Now you have to be a /pol/spamming faggot and add racial insults just to seem superior? You're a fucking dickhead, bro.
>>344748545
You know I thought the exact same thing. And while I'm on the subject
>fucking bullshit rng
>best pokemon are in the areas most heavily populated so I have to drive 10+miles
>microtransactions
>lag and unbelievable server issues
>fucking garbage gym and fighting mechanics
And there's a couple of other things I could mention. But you know what, OP? Even with all that fucking horseshit in the back of my head. I'm having a fucking blast
Even know they're pokemon nerds the community for this game is fucking amazing, fun, and friendly.
It doesn't even matter what team you're on when someone finds a rare pokemon they always help you find that shit.
Lures are a genius idea and you don't have to believe me, but I have gotten three chick's numbers from playing GO and I'm in contact with every one of them.
shit's so exciting when you use genuine effort to find the uncommon or rare pokemon. The tracking is a little frustrating but works well.
So stop trying to tell me how to have fun and try something new! you might like it
>>344750664
>can poison steel and poison types
only needs to be faster than whatever is using quake
>>344750531
honestly I dont mind if a lot of big game companies went to apps.
theyre usually free (with an in-game store in hopes of making infinite money), or at least cheap. almost no high investment ever. if its shit I'll just uninstall like "whatever". a refreshing change compared to recent years where Im asked to pay before, pay on release day, pay after, pay periodically (this one is optional ;) we promise), pay monthly to keep playing, pay for a new system so youre guaranteed to be able to actually play as advertised, etc etc etc.
>>344750556
It's a bad game because it's different in all the wrong ways.
AR is clever. Walking around to encounter actual mons is clever. The MMOish gym building thing is clever
Having 150 original mons with 1 attack each is not clever. Not actually participating in trainer v trainer battles is not clever.
And it's not Pokemon.
Pokemon Go is DMC5 being a Pachinko machine.
>>344750752
I refuse to support the death of video games by succumbing to mobile gaming
Is there a trick to flicking the pokeballs or is it rng? Because this shit is annoying
>>344750531
>how mediocre and devoid GO is
The game itself is kind of light yea, but tonnes of people in my office are playing it. You see packs of people at lunch outside playing it. Light on content but for the moment it is pretty damn fun
>>344750756
>spd 19
>pdef 14
>atk 67
>satk 9
Just you wait, anon. Just you wait.
>>344750654
No, we're talking about how the success of GO will affect the industry, most notably Nintendo.
Read the OP.
GO's success, especially considering how lazy and bare bones it is, will mean the death of traditional handheld gaming at the very least.
I can very well see Nintendo drop all console manufacturing in favor of mobile gaming once tge NX flops. Hell, they've already tried to buy the company that made GO, showing their intentions, and considering how the WiiU was a flop, and Nintendo's trend in console sales...
Well, let's just say that if you're a Nintendo fan who loves Metroid and Fzero, your future is bleak.
>>344750843
Don't fucking flick it like a spaz.
So what kind of girls play this game?
>>344749401
>defending trubbish and the ice cream pokemon this hard
>>344750692
yup.
It sold around 15 millions. Then again, /v/ has about 1 month of memory, unless something has lasting appeal.
Do you see a lot of U4 threads recently ?
Anyone else worried over the implications that Nintendo can now direct millions of people to go wherever the fuck they want?
>>344748545
Pokemon doesn't have that exciting of gameplay to begin with. I don't know why people are bitching about a mobile version with slightly less mechanics
>>344750809
but Fallout Shelter was good, and so is Out There Omega.
Do you mean something will die by giving it access to everyone?
mobile can be successful and video gammy we just need to support good gaming practices like any other device
>>344750038
>pokemon "lore"
>>344750904
Golly gee could it be THAT easy? Thanks anon you're a lifesaver
>>344750672
Not what that word means.
>>344750772
>And it's not Pokemon.
Yes, yes it is. The fact that you can't separate the IP from the mechanics of some of the video games borders on the silly. You know there are cartoons and toys that don't even have any gameplay at all? Those are pokemon too.
>>344750896
>No, we're talking about how I wasn't aware of trends we've all been observing for decades.
Yes. You are tone deaf and myopic. We're talking about Pokemon. It is and always has been symptomatic of everything you're complaining about.
>>344750905
All of them. Something this popular doesn't have demographics.
>>344750963
Pokemon has no lore. Mystery Dungeon has lore but it's not that deep.
>>344750896
I can very well see that you are an idiot, and will obviously disappear in the coming years like that dicks and crow anon.
Truly, the only gripe i have with /v/ is how i can't humilliate retard when they say the dumbest shit.
Be grateful your humongous stupidity will be forgotten in the coming hours.
>>344750909
>defending shitmons like magnemite, voltorb, mankey, and seel this hard
fuck off genwun hipster faggot. The rest of the world still likes new pokemon, maybe you should take off your fedora and nostalgia blinders.
>>344750994
Weird. I expected mostly tomboyish geek girls with cat-eared knit caps.
>>344751064
What's wrong with mankey and seel?
>>344750770
Have you played mobile games?
They're basically Skinner boxes designed to get you to spend money. They're not very deep or enjoyable games, I wouldn't even call most of them "fun."
The mobile market is one of the worst in gaming, since devs don't care for quality, but rather ways to psychologically hook you into getting you to pay. It's not a pleasant experience. At best I could compare them to flash games or Yahoo games from the 90s, but even those were more entertaining.
>>344750663
Quit pretending you belong here. If anyone would defend GO, it'd be Reddit. 4chan has always been against the cancer of mobile gaming because it's normie casual trash, and threatening to kill the gaming we as gamers like.
>>344751089
I've seen sorority girls who obviously never played a pokemon game besides maybe red/blue playing it.
>>344748545
>If you actually like video games you should be strongly against mobile gaming as it's a cancer that kills traditional gaming
Here we go again.
Moblie gaming kills 'tradition' for 8 years already.
Why exactly can't you play pokemon on phone?
>>344748545
it's like how all the hatfags in tf2 killed half life isn't it
>>344748545
It's the other way around. Everyone got bored of shitty rehashes and decided to try something new.
>>344748545
I like this idea much more than the forced motion control meme nintendo is holding up to this day
>>344750979
That's exactly what that word means. You took his argument and spun it around changing words to make it easier to attack.
He wasnt even complaining about it being different, but rather it being simplified.
>>344751130
>4chan has always been against the cancer of mobile gaming because it's normie casual trash, and threatening to kill the gaming we as gamers like
You smell new.
>>344751130
i've been here for 11 years, you dumb kid.
Maybe if you stopped being so fuckign annaly annihilated about Nintendo releasing a succesfull mobile App you'd realise how fucking imbecilic you look
>>344748545
Meh, who cares. Normies took over long ago, just let it die.
>>344751130
>They're basically Skinner boxes designed to get you to spend money.
all games are made to make you spend money idiot
>>344750979
There you go using strawmans again. No point in debating with you since you're clearly a troll who can't address the central points of arguments. I think I'm done with you.
Go back to playing your normie Pokemon GO trash, don't cone crying to me when Nintendo foregoes consoles for shitty mobile apps in the future though. This is the future you chose.
>>344750979
>we released a new Mario game for your phone!
>Mario can't jump and there are no goombas or koopas but that's okay, it's just different is all!
Get fucked.
I saw what happened with the Wii; one left-field casual smash in Wii Sports and we got TWO generations of gimmicky bullshit trying to replicate that casual appeal, to the almost total disregard of actual games. Metroid got shit to death with control gimmicks. Star Fox got shit to death with control gimmicks. All in service of trying to replicate WiiSports' unexpected success.
I see the same thing happening here. A lazy half-game that abandons everything interesting about its predecessors makes a gorillion dollars, now this is all Nintendo will do for the next 2 generations.
>>344751009
>wahh, I can't counter a well structured argument
>I know, I'll call him an idiot and act superior
Go away Reddit.
>>344751315
Do you have a email or something.
I'd like for once to have a trace so i can laugh at your dumb ass in a few months to years.
Of course /v/ doesn't like it, it's a social game. Half the fun is meeting new people and becoming rivals over a certain area, or luring a bunch of members from your team over to fortify a gym.
>>344751386
It's not really our fault if Nintendo is retarded you know.
HOW DARE NORMIES HAVE FUN WITH A NEW MOBILE APP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN'T PLAY THIS GAME WITHOUT GOING OUTSIDE AND HOW CAN I DO THAT WHEN I CAN'T BE AT HOME ARGUING WITH STRANGERS ON 4CHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
/thread
>>344751423
You really aren't good at the whole introspection thing, heh
>>344751495
>/thread
fuck off newfag
>>344751298
Go play a mobile game. Go play Castle Crashers, and then tell me how it stacks up to the likes of MGS3
>>344751257
>video games were a special and secret hobby in my time, only played by the elite
Only fat lazy fucks complain that stationary gaming is dying.
Mobile gaming is the future, deal with it.
>>344748970
And those two specific franchises have something in common.
They're both getting brand newPhone Games
>>344751526
>fuck off
>newfag
Fuck off, newfag
>>344751552
Uh the Game Boy was already kinda mainstream. Most kids had one.
>>344751609
>/threading yourself like a newfag and then trying to damage control
fuck off already retard.
>>344751495
>DURR YOU JUST DON'T LIKE DONTE BECAUSE OF HIS HAIRCUT
Every time.
Every time a reboot completely shits up the core gameplay experience, cocksuckers slither out of the woodwork to blame the instant dislike on superficial shit instead of the utter butchering of what made the franchise fun in the first place.
>>344751547
Castle Crashers has more gameplay in 10 minutes than Metal Gear Solid has in 10 hours
>>344751298
Don't engage with him. He's just a child grappling with capitalism. People don't spend money on things they like, they're tricked by devious corporations and dark psychology magic into obeying like the sheeple they are.
>>344751205
>>344751315
Ok.
>>344751386
Yes, it is ok. Because the success of a completely different product in a completely different market with notably reduced dev time and production value requirements doesn't actually preclude a large corporation from investing in other products.
As much as I'm sure it pains you, waggle didn't happen because of those mean normies coming to steal your fun. Waggle happened because they'd been doing the same fucking thing for two decades. And if it hadn't, you'd hate their stagnated garbage even more.
Phone games aren't a threat to gaming. They're just casual games. The niche video games you wank over are bigger than they've ever been. No matter how much you cry, /v/, you can't convince the adults that you aren't living in a golden age.
>>344751552
you really think the dudebros and college girls playing Go would've been fine with people playing pokemon on a 3DS in public?
>>344748545
Whatever you say Mr skelton
>>344751654
>they are butchering it
>P-Please do not look at the fuckign new game coming in november p-p-please
>>344748589
/thread
Pokemon died at the end of Gen 2, who gives a shit what they do with the series or any other series they have? Nintendo have stagnated for years now.
As long as they keep shitting out handhelds and I keep getting MH I couldnt give less of a shit about Nintendo games.
>>344748589
this.
pokemon was fun as a kid but this shit is gay as fuck if you a reasonably normal adult.
>>344751547
>>344751665
I'm thinking he meant to say Clash of Clans, not Castle Crashers
>>344751765
this style of arguing where you don't say anything original and just quote a meme needs to die already
>>344751650
>fuck off already
>retard
Seriously, go kill yourself already. Fucking retard.
>>344751765
Fuck off i dont even follow pokeshit anymore and everyone knows gen 1 and 2 are great and everything after is retarded shit
>>344751713
No, because a gameboy in public always looked autistic compared to phones
>>344751730
Careful with that edge son.
>>344748545
I wouldn't mind a game where you hunt down waifus
>>344751765
Or us logical people, Gen 3 was not as good as the first two gens.
If anything this going to HELP the mainline games.
And Pokemon games never stopped to make big money.
>>344748545
>said phone game being successful is going to kill the actual mainline pokemon games
Good, I hate Pokemon and mostly I hate faggots over 20 that like Pokemon. 90% of them like Pokemon because of a mix of nostalgia and ignorance of other games and because it's apparently the cool thing to do in a very reddit way.
I waste my time with videogames endlessly but at least I am original about my choices.
>>344751858
>>344751765
not an argument
>>344751858
>S-STOP HAVING AN OPINION
Why dont you Go fuck yourself if you cant handle people having different views. You obviously have too thin skin to be on /v/.
We here on /r/pcmasterrace will not stand for such unenlightened fun. How dare people play games based on criteria that isn't measured in pixels or gigabytes.
>>344751730
>>344751905
Not an argument either son. Only opinions.
>>344751589
I wouldn't call this gaming, and I don't see why you need to shit up this thread shilling this shit so hard.
All of these are you, your tone gives it away
>>344751552
>>344751507
>>344751495
>>344751461
>>344751457
>>344751247
>>344751215
>>344751009
>>344750979
>>344750663
>>344750654
>>344750583
>>344750552
At best it's you an a friend given your post speed, but your tone, aggressiveness, and overall willful retardation, as well as your defence for this shit is identical.
You're either a legit shill trying to change the narrative through viral marketing, or a stupidly loyal Nintendo fanboy.
>>344748545
You are not going to stop the market from choosing what lives and what dies. If Pokemon Go is to be the new future for Pokemon, then you either adapt to that or you only play your old Pokemon games.
just stop with the pokemans. ni no kuni was everything pokemon should have evolved into. ni no kuni 2 needs to take a huge step forward though
>>344750187
His point was that the dedicated portable console market is shrinking due to kids prefering to play on their parents smartphones or 150 dollar tablet as evidenced by the lower sales numbers.
>>344751840
Gen V and VI were both awesome. Gen IV was pretty alright too.
Honestly Gen III wasn't terrific and it's a shame so many people dropped the franchise there, it really did make an excellent comeback.
Hell Gen III even had a good set of games in FRLG (and the birth of the new-era reboot for Pokemon), it's just Hoenn is a shit region
>>344751840
>everyone knows gen 1 and 2 are great and everything after is retarded shit
is that why XY sold 15 million?
stay butthurt you fucking hipster faggot
>>344751783
Yeah, I meant Clash of Clans.
>>344750905
my mom does
Is animal crossings really that far though? Unless you change the dates on your system, there is technically only so much you can achieve on a certain day before it becomes bland. Are there any quality games on mobile that capture the essence of HM or animal crossings? A quality experience that you can sink some time into each day growing a town, bugs, plants, fishing, townspeople, etc etc?
>>344751947
>heh here's my opinion on why after gen 2 pokemon was horrible and shitty
>I don't think so
>STOP OPPOSING MY DIFFERENT VIEW MY VIEW IS THE ONLY CORRECT ONE
>>344751889
This honestly
>>344752051
>>344752048
go back to your containment board
>>344752051
>le sales argument!
I guess Clash of Clans and Farmville are the best games of all time
CAN ONLY CATCH THE ORIGINAL 151
NEWFAGS AND UNDERAGE B& BTFO
GENWUNNERS WERE RIGHT
THE NEWER DESIGNS SUCK BALLS
>>344752048
>VI
>awesome
That's not how you spell IV.
>>344751654
>HURR WE R SO SOPHISTICATED HERE ON 4CHAN! FUCK OFF NORMIE PLEBS GET OUT GET OUTTTTTTTT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
If this were a 3DS game, you'd get the Nintendrones of /v/ lapping it up while the other half of the board would be chanting "SONY/PC FOREVER, NINTENDO NEVER!", as it always is on this place.
All the hate is from it being a mobile app, nothing more. Prove me wrong.
Also no one here mentioned Devil May Cry reboot, you dumb shit
I don't know what everyone was expecting from pokemon go. It was never meant to be a main series game or anything
It's just a neat little social app that is meant to get people outside again. And holy hell it worked. A couple of days ago I meant about 20 random people all out catching pokemon and shit and i quickly became friends with them. My town had a fireworks display and festival over the weekend and the amount of nice and cool people i met trying to take a gym from me was insane. I met a lot of cool people in just a week. I've read stories about how people with social anxiety or depression or people who never excersise are finally outside walking around and meeting new people for the first time in a while, and catching pokemon at the same time. It's a social app, not a game, and frankly I'm okay with that. It's been a while since I've seen a "game" bring together a real life community like this "game" did. It's simple, /fun/, and brings people together again in this time of social separation.
>>344752106
You didnt post any opinion you posted "LE EPIC IM SO COOL EDGE MEME"
But its hilarious how upset you are for getting called thin skin, here is your last (you) because I know you wont stop replying.
Go on, reply again like a bitch and prove you're mad I called you out on your bullshit.
>>344752123
If "everyone knows they're shit" then why do they keep selling? Seems like everyone likes them and you're just a butthurt contrarian
>>344752001
I would call this gaming. It's more of a social tone, and I agree that it's nothing like the mainline games. The combat shows this for sure.
What exactly don't you find this to be gaming?
It has a lot of aspects of different games and whether you call the gps mechanic a gimmick or not, Nintendo has always been about gimmicks but you have to admit it's an interesting one that's new and refreshing.
>>344748787
>last 5 years
Try 10
>people still haven't realized that everyone copies fucking nintendo
All right, so nintendo will die who fucking cares. Guess who's going to aim next for dem mobile business?
If you guys think Pachinkoshit is bad, then wait until you see the industry in 2 years.
>>344752195
Because the masses are stupid, and things that are simple and shallow always have mass appeal.
There is always an inverse relation between quality and popularity.
There is a tipping point at which where after a certain point, the mire popular something becomes, the worse it gets as it has to be horribly simplified for mainstream appeal.
>>344752327
spoken like a true hipster
stay mad
So what exactly happens after you take over a gym? Do I start earning gold coins from them? I have three at the moment but they aren't generating anything.
>>344750756
>saccing a mon to set toxic off on a heatran
sure is pleb hour around here.
>>344752275
Because this has as much depth to it as fucking Tinder.
>>344752178
kid I'm not even the same goi.
You're getting so blasted right now calm down.
You're the one responding over and over. just relax.
>>344752327
You tell em Anon. We're no sheep. :^}
>>344752178
>Projecting this hard
You're the one getting triggered by getting called edgy for your opinion here friendo. If you have such a thin skin that you can't stand being called out on your opinion you should probably go to reddit or something.
>>344752048
>gen VI
>awesome
Nah. It was step backward in almost every aspect from gen V but I gave them a pass because they bothered to make 700+ 3D models for all the Pokemon + diferent animations for all of them and I bet that took up most of their dev time.
Gen 3 was meh and Gen 4 was also meh but better than 3.
I love the frustration of Sonyggers this is causing. Does anyone have that salty tweet from that Sony-Europe representative?
>>344752361
>>344752361
>speaking the truth makes you a hipster
Give me ONE example of this not being true.
It's happened to literally everything.
>>344752001
I'm probably taking the bait here, but I know the game in all sense of mechanics is shit. People don't like it because they think it's a deep/complex game, in no way would this affect Nintendo's other shitty consoles.
People like it because meeting people with friends and controlling territory is fun. How can't you wrap your head around that without crying buzzwords?
>>344752178
>butthurt
>>344752127
>VI
>not awesome
Come on, anon.
Gen VI did so much right
>new type designed specifically for meta balance
>Megas designed to make UU fan favorites meta-viable again, complete meta shake-up
>Amie making the bonding/virtual pet aspect more prominent and fun
>EV training in skill-based minigames instead of strategy-guide-grinding of specific mons.
>finally went full 3D, but used that really great pixel-art shader
>game hands you a second (Gen I) starter at the end so you can NG+ through it
>didn't do a "slightly updated 3rd game buy me again!" like BW2/Pt/Em/Crys/Yellow
I thought X/Y were great.
>>344752445
How the hell was it a step back?
>muh single player
>>344752375
uh no it doesn't. I think this game could've easily went the other way around and flopped. Hell the game doesn't even have a built in chat (yet)
the social aspect is meting people in a real space and not in a virtual one
>>344752001
Why is it that whenever someone on /v/ finds another that disagrees entirely with their dumbass opinion, the go-to logic to their coming to terms with it is that the other opinion is someone trying to market their product or is just a plain shill?
Do you know how fucking retarded that thought process is? Who in their right mind would come here to try and boost or market their products?
Thank god you autists have 4chan, you'd fucking die in the real world.
>>344751841
exactly so your original point is meaningless then
I still don't understand why they didn't just strap the mainline pokemon battle-system to this app.
It's not like it's hard at fucking all to understand.
>>344752461
If I wanted to meet people using a mobile app, I'd use Tinder rather than waste my time pretending to catch Pokemon only to be part of America's latest fad. At least I actually interact with real people and get my dick wet that way.
Here's to hoping Europe has better taste once we get it. America has always been exceptionally autistic.
>>344752520
>almost every aspect
>>344749401
>Other people are enjoying what I like!!!!!!
>>344752531
You mean like Tinder? An app designed to meet people you don't know IRL?
>>344751116
>literally a fucking seal
>>344752452
Well One Piece comes to mind, it's popular and good.
>>344752582
Passive abilities, equipped items, and four attacks is far too much for normalfags to handle. Pokemon Go is not meant for people who like Pokemon, its aimed at normalfags who stopped playing after GSC. People are already demanding 151-only servers and saying they'll stop if the "fake pokemon" start getting added.
>>344752642
Its just poorfag niggers who can't even afford a 3DS.
>>344748589
FPBP
>>344752565
Except Treehouse has admitted to posting here, viral marketing is a thing, and marketers have already spoken about their tactics being going to forums and spamming threads about stuff they're meant to market.
>hurr, the real world
Yeah, welcome to the internet motherfucker.
>>344752649
except tinder is full of trash/bots and doesn't have spontaneous mass meetup mechanics. You can't see someone walking down the street going "ayyy tinder".
>>344751547
Clash of Clans is actually pretty solid. It's not Dark Souls level depth, sure, but neither is Papers Please and that's one of /v/'s most accepted games.
A lot of people assume its literally just waiting for hours/days/years to see your base grow, but really the combat is well balanced and requires some pretty decent strategy to do well at. If the game was just wars between clans and you started out maxed, I honestly think /v/ would praise the shit out of it.
>>344752372
bump
I really don't see the difference between this and every other 'make fitness fun!' pedometer app aside from pokemon.
I mean is that literally it? From what i've seen it's flicking and tapping your screen once ever 100 meters.
>>344752445
>but I gave them a pass because they bothered to make 700+ 3D models for all the Pokemon + diferent animations for all of them and I bet that took up most of their dev time.
Explain ORAS then. They had every model already. How the fuck did they fuck up that fucking hard?
>>344752717
It worries me. Not that the game is shallow shit, that was to be expected.
What worries me is how low this sets the bar for success. As it stand right now Go is essentially a "walk around and look at nice models" simulator.
>>344748545
>>>said phone game being successful is going to kill the actual mainline pokemon games
wow what a stupid thing to say
>>344752717
Even then it's not the mechanics that get them
It's that with coming-up-on-probably 800+ Pokemon, they don't like the idea of only one mon in every 6 being one they recognize.
>>344752649
So on tinder you meet people using a virtual space. Pokemon GO doesn't show other trainers in the virtual space but instead, lets you make the choice of meeting new people by visiting the space's locations in the real world.
And I don't think GO is an app designed for you to meet people. in fact the game has no social interaction built in. You are the only factor for meeting new people, so you don't have to if you don't want to
>>344752468
Mega's are terrible Anon. Not every Pokemon can meet the indiotic meta that has been instilled by an over obsessed fanbase. IV's were intended to allow for variety and uniqueness in the games, if anything it's our fault for the meta being the shitshow it is.
Pokemon GO is the end
Normies will only play video games if it's on a phone
>>344752702
Manga is OK, anime is garbage. Anime is the mainstream one, also normies in tge west don't read OP.
Try again.
Popular /= Mainstream
When you see that shit plastered on stores and talked about on Western news, it's now mainstream. When some vapid whore like Kardashian is shilling it, it's mainstream.
Anime is pretty niche still in the west, and while OP is popular among anime fans, it's hardly mainstream. Only anime to ever go mainstream in the west has been Dragonball, and look what's happened to it.
>>344752702
fuck off normie
>>344752803
It's a skinner box game anon, and not very good.
>>344752882
Megas are great, the fuck are you on.
Especially with Team Preview.... Shit, that guy has a Gengar and a Gyarados. He sent out Gengar... Can he trap me by going Mega? Or is his Mega on his Gyarados?
Especially with some mons like Zard getting multiple Megas.
It was a great balance choice in a game where 80% of mons have one, MAYBE two roles that they could possibly serve on a team, fuck what you think.
>>344752992
lol
>>344752565
I think you vastly underestimate word of mouth.
If something gets talked about enough it will spread from person to person. This isn't exclusive to the "real world." in fact the internet is the perfect place for word of mouth.
You can spread the word of your product across the country for free just by implanting an idea in someone
>>344753059
Yet you haven't listed a single reason why.
Any game featuring any sort of progress is a skinner box by nature.
Yet WoW isn't seen as casual.
>>344752784
>marketers have already spoken about their tactics being going to forums and spamming threads about stuff they're meant to market.
>HURR NORMIES ARE INVADING 4CHAN TO MARKET NINTENDO GAMES REEEEEEEEEEE
I suppose I'll just take your word for it that marketing companies are trying to get completely dysfunctional autists to play their games. Doesn't sound at all like the new retarded /v/ conspiracy of the month, like how feminists and Kotaku are ruining video games!
>>344752992
isn't Dragonball still good? I thought it's the same thing it's always been; muscly men and punching each other, it never changed to appeal to the masses. And Xenoverse was pretty good.
>Popular /= Mainstream
I agree, I see the difference.
When you put it this way, I can't think of any piece of media that's both mainstream and good. Witcher 3 maybe?
>>344753004
>>344753068
fuck off retard
>>344752452
Why? You're going to shit on anything with a reputable following. Whether it be a cult following of a very niche group or being actually popular, you will shit on anything that isn't so obscure you have to google it and jump to the 8th page to see it.
>>344748545
You can still play the traditional games you know
>>344748953
This. The last time they shook up the formula was Colosseum, and it's clear they're not following that with the Wii stadium game. I didn't even touch any of the B/W games and only lasted a few hours playing X. I'm so sick of just the identical game over and over again. Again, the changes made in Colosseum was enough.
>>344751758
>reasonably normal adults
>browsing /v/
Pick one.
>>344753145
WoW is pretty casual.
Also, I don't gotta explain shit. Literally look up "skinner box" And educate yourself so you understand why it's a skinner box. It's pretty fucking self explanatory if you know about Skinner and behavioural psychology.
There's even a guy on YT who talk about this and how it relates to game design.
If you're asking me to explain, it's cause you don't know what a Skinner Box is. In other words, educate yourself.
>>344753365
if you play pokemon for the single player you are a casual retard.
>>344748976
They only need to add gen II and it will become perfect.
>implying they won't just have GO pander to genwunners and new mainline titles for the core fans
>>344747695
>>344747695
>>344747695
NEW THREAD'S UP AND RUNNING
GIT IN HEYA BROS
>>344753374
i understand the appeal well i did when i was like 8-14 but seriously grew out of that shit pretty quick.i just fap to random shit now
>>344752831
I didn't play ORAS because I didn't like gen 3 in the first place so you tell me.
>>344753380
>I don't gotta explain shit.
You go look up the phrase "Cop out".
Vanilla WoW was the opposite of casual as well. I'm not surprised the average browser here likes to parrots the latest hot youtuber though.
>>344748545
Fuck off OP pokemon as a series hasn't been good since silver and gold.
This is making pokemon fun again for the first time in 15 years.
Now you know how SMT fans feel whenever people talk about Persona
>>344752956
Have you ever considered that pokemon was already popular before the inception of GO?
It's not like when word got out of a mobile pokemon everyone who didn't play games jumped out of their seat.
Go's popularity was spread like wildfire through word of mouth and the already pseudo mainstream gamers. People not interested in games inherently but they think pokemon is cool so they downloaded it and liked it.
It didn't take long for word to spread to their non gamer friends and actual pokemon fans to their gaming friends.
The app is designed to be accessible to the laymen but in depth enough in troubling for the pokemon veteran. If anything, I think that this could introduce pokemon to a wider audience
But I'm not blind I know very well that this could also start a trend where Nintendo takes a new mobile approach to gaming which we can't really know how the quality will turn out
>>344748545
>traditional gaming
You're wrong in so many ways, I don't even know where to start.
>>344753609
>pokemon as a series hasn't been good since silver and gold.
N E W T H R E A D
>>344747695
WE IN HEYA BOYS
>>344753760
>>344753468
Fuck off snd let your shit thread die already
>>344753425
>HURR MLG PRO
Better than a sperging tournie retard
>>344753186
4chan isnt full of dysfunction autistic, this place is literally Rddt 2.0 and one of the most popular forums on the web. A perfect place to shill too, since you're not tied to accounts. 4chan and Rddt have been the center if internet culture since 2008, you can bet anything marketeers come shill here all the goddamn time.
>>344753205
Witcher isn't mainstream, as it's aimed at a specific audience.
Mainstream is something aiming for the least common denominator. Something like Pokemon GO, Candy Crush, Facebook, Tinder, Big Bang Theory, Star Wars Force Awakens, modern Marvel Films, modern Call of Duty, Michael Bay films, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Big Brother, Eurovision, etc...
And Dragonball is no longer good. It had a massive drop in quality after the Frieza saga, and Super, cashing in on nostalgia is a new low for the franchise. Compare this to Dragonball from King Piccolo to Frieza which was top notch, had good fight choreography, and good storytelling, rather than flashy transformations and beamspam.
>>344753935
cry some more
>>344753554
Yeah, vanilla WoW.
If you don't wanna read up on Skinner and learn something new, then suit yourself.
>>344750329
Your post contradicts itself. First you say that Pokemon as a franchise is for collectors and then you complain about Go, while Go is probably the first game where collecting Pokemon has felt somewhat interesting.
Actually going outside, sharing tips with others and actively hunting for Pokemon is so much better than just running through grass. All they did was remove the traditional Pokemon combat and the story aspects.
>>344754015
Are you implying Vanilla WoW wasn't a skinner box? Its literally a treadmill. "Skinner box" isn't an argument. They don't make a game inherently bad.
I haven't played pokemon since red/blue/yellow. I was going to give go a try but evidently you don't actually fight the pokemon in the field? You just throw the ball at them. And even in vs a gym it's some watered down "1 attack and 1 strong attack"?
I guess it wouldn't have such popular appeal if it was basic level pokemon from gen 1 in gameplay but that's a shame that woulda been fun
>>344749553
Who is this brown elf spunk monk.
>>344754197
Well, considering I've never played WoW, I couldn't tell you. Modern WoW is still normie as fuck.
Also, WoW being a Skinner box doesn't detract from my previous argument. It's bad and lazy game design. Probably why I never liked WoW, even when it wasn't normie.
Mobile game are literally nothing BUT skinner boxes, designed to hook you, invest time, and then get you to pay.
>>344754364
Its Princess Allura from the new Voltron reboot.
>>344754474
Awesome, thanks.
>>344754364
She' Allura from the new Voltron cartoon.>tfw no chocolate elf feet to service
>>344754384
Ah the good old review of an entire genre of games you've never played.
You never liked WoW, because by your own admission you've never played it. Same goes for all these mobile games you seem to imagine as literally nothing but a number and an option to spend money to increase it.
Try playing something and coming up with your own ideas rather than parroting /v/, Extra Credits, or anyone elses opinion no matter how much you might agree with them on other points.
>>344754623
I want her to step on my dick and tell me I'm unworthy of being a paladin.
>/v/ acting like they know busiensses
How cute
>>344748545
Id like to see Nintendo release some PC games
Emulation is fine and all, but a HD remake of Majoras Mask or just New Leaf would be nice to see
>>344748545
I really wish mods would ban Pokemon Go discussion on /v/. It barely qualifies as a video game and shit's been flooding the board even though we have a specific board so that this exact scenario of pokemon shit flooding the board doesn't happen.
If it was at least an actual Pokemon game I'd be more lenient but there's nothing to this, it's more of a social app than a game.
>he thinks this will impact future games
Jesus Christ you people make my head hurt some times.
>>344754796
At least we know how to spell business, dummy.
>>344748545
>people are celebrating a phone game being successful
>While /v/ is hating on video games
>walking into work
>lady infront stops randomly with phone out
>look over her shoulder as i walk past
>shes trying to catch a pokemon
Fucking autism reeeeeee
>>344754796
it's funny because you did nothing to prove the legitimacy of your vast knowledge of corporations. The best we can do is speculate based on what's happened to companies before
>>344755186
No, her playing on a DS in public would be
>>344755186
autism because someone else is having more fun than you?
just ignore her no one is forcing you to play or pay attention
>>344748545
This is not a real game though, this is what normies call a "game". This is just a shitty app with AR gimmicks and paywalls.
>>344755292
If she was playing a DS she would be sitting down not getting in the way of people trying to do their jobs.
>>344755416
I disagree entirely. what about this is not a game to you?
It may be a different type of game but it has a lot of valuable aspects that games have.
I agree that the AR is pretty gimmicky however it fits the setting of the "vast openworld pokemon" game.
There is literally no paywalls in GO, you're straight up wrong about that
At least this will kill the wii
>>344749890
Oh, I want them to die but not because of your dumb console wars.
They have been milking the same franchises for 20 years.
Now, I only want the Pokemon anime to continue because it gives me fap material.
Anyone has that webm where Serena is dancing with her Pokemons in a tournament and gets wet?
>>344748545
>Nintendo's stocks up by 24% since Pokemon GO launch
Too late, anon.
The market is all that matters.
>>344748916
But those are going to be actual games. How is that bad? They can make fe and ac looks 100 times better on phones compared to a 3ds screen
>>344751064
DON'T YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT MANKEY
>>344751130
>They're basically Skinner boxes designed to get you to spend money.
Did someone said CSGO?
>>344749591
Considering that Mobile games are far more mature than the entire 1st and 2nd party Wii U and 3DS library.
I don't think anyone has a leg to stand on saying that Mobile games aren't video games and besides a 300 dollar phone has more memory and a more powerful processor than the Wii U and 3DS combined.
>>344748545
I just want an Animal Crossing game like New Leaf. If they can fit an equal or better game on my phone, more power to them.
>>344754737
I haven't played WoW, but I have played Clash of Clans, its knockoffs, and a myriad of other mobile games as I have a long commute to work.
All of them are skinner boxes with no substance. The only one I legit enjoyed was the Magic the Gathering one, but the small card selection left more to be desired.
>>344758129
>mature
means nothing
>>344751064
All those pokemon are great though. The only thing wrong with seel is its name.
>>344748545
Fire emblem died after awakening. Animal Crossing died after its gc release annon..
>>344758502
You don't have to like it, but calling Clash of Clans a skinner box with no substance is straight up wrong.
Until town hall 7+ its admittedly basically a year long tutorial, but high TH8 and above has raids with more strategic depth than any of the Mobas praised today.
Anyone sane saw this coming. Nintendo is going full mobile. I'm finally free
Not here to discuss the merits of a phone game.
But as someone who is nostalgia tripping HARD off PokemonGO. Whats the definitive gameboy pokemon game for someone who grew up with the original Red and Blue?
Should i just get the latest on the 3DS or is it a waste on someone who only knows the original pokemon??
>>344758671
>pokeball with eyes is a great design
>oh wow it evolves into upside down pokeball with eyes
you're a biased nostalgiafaggot
>>344748545
>2016
>liking video games
>>344758717
It's funny how people think a franchise is dead just because they don't like the recent entries, when in fact it's more alive than it's ever been.
>>344758878
I didn't say Electrode is great. But voltorb and the story behind it is great and functions as the mimic monster which is a traditional enemy in jrpgs.
>>344758847
probably best to go with either 5th or 6th gen. 5th because the first two games tried to evoke the same feeling as the first ones by having only new pokemon til postgame, or 6th, because it's the latest gen. Or wait for Sun and Moon, that works too.
>>344759127
is 5th gen the 5th game right?
>>344759156
Black and White on DS.
>>344758847
If you are sticking with gameboy, I'd probably go with Crystal for the most content. If you can get your hands on a ds/3ds though, platinum and black/white 2 are my favorites.
>>344748545
The market has spoken - mobile is the future.
I do not know understand why Nintendo is even bothering with traditional consoles. They should just scrap them and focus on mobile.
>>344759027
what console shall i buy to play these?
>>344748545
Or nintendo will sell 10 million new 3ds consoles and 15 million more copies of Pokemon sun and moon plus other Pokemon games and Nintendo games. This will generate even more money making more spin off games of quality come to mobile which will make more people buy console games.
>>344758847
I wouldn't bother with ORAS. Get HGSS or BW2 instead
>>344758847
Emerald was good.
Platinum was okay.
Back/white were okay... but retardedly easy even for pokemon. One pokemon soloed the elite 4 without any sort of grinding.
Others were shit, or I didn't play them.
>>344759217
>The market has spoken - mobile is the future.
XY sold 15 million and convinced a lot of people to buy a 3DS
The only people getting Go are poorfag niggers who only download it because its free. Nintendo will realize this once Sun and Moon come out and get sales numbers that are average for pokemon games.
>>344758729
So you mean I gotta invest a yearvof my time for the game to get good? Grinding out all that shit is tedious, and has forced wait times to lure you into spending money.
You can cut down the wait, but that costs REAL MONEY. And the entire game is built around this, as raids often pit you against opponents slightly higher level than you, and if you get raided, you lose the resources you were saving up for days to level up.
Yes, you can grind through it, but it's tedious, and since you get that reward feeling from leveling up, your entire purpose is to continuously level up to unlock everything with no end in sight, always with that lure of "you can make all this easier if you gave me your wallet." Since the actual process of unlock is more luck based than skill based once you to level 10.
It's the LITERAL definition of a Skinner box. Quick rush of levels to hook you, once you're in, harsh cut off the rewards, and force the player for a tedium. And for what?
There's no story. Game takes no skill. There are no complex mechanics or strategy like in an RTS. You get nothing out of the experience outside of wasting hours of your life.
At least with the MtG one you learned how to play the game. At least platformers, RTS, or fighters you develop skillsets. At least RPGs tell you a story.
Clash of Clans is a skinner box with ZERO substance. The entire game is designed to lure players into spending their money while tricking them into believeling they're doing something meaningful.
I would know, one if my clients is a German mobile gaming company, and I've been to some of their meeting where they discuss this shit.
>>344748589
Hate to say it but it's true, Nintendo has been been rapidly declining in quality, ambition and care since the Wii's success. It's been nothing but a slow death for the company and the quality of their IPs ever since.
>>344751730
>Pokemon died at the end of Gen 2
And stopped reading right there. I don't give 2 shits about pokemon after Gold version, but I can't deny that it has remained as a sales beast to this day, me liking it or not.
>>344752468
>slightly updated 3rd game
>BW2
Did you even play it?
>>344759416
>nintendo will sell 10 million new 3ds consoles
This will literally never going to happen.
Also the thought that Go will lure casuals into buying Sun & Moon is ludicrous. Not gonna happen either, sorry.
>>344756738
Fire Emblem
>no story
>"stamina" to do missions
>DLC for everything from maps, paralogues, legacy characters, and weapons
>weapon degradation returns, pay the blacksmith to repair your bronze swords in real money
>stat upgrades like Magic Books or Weapon Scrolls for real money
>more grind heavy, less skill oriented
>still censored to shit
Animal Crossing
>you barely get bells now
>everything costs way more
>stamina to do basic shit like pulling weeds or fishing
>see FE for DLC buttrape
>>344759491
>One pokemon soloed the elite 4 without any sort of grinding.
my nigga Scrafty
>>344759491
>one pokemon soloed the elite 4 without any sort of grinding
I've done this in every pokemon game. You don't need to grind if you have just one pokemon.
>pokemon go will kill mainline
What actual fucking logic is this? How?
Its practically guaranteed sales of S&M will get boosted because of this shit.
>>344750752
What gundam series is that?
>>344759535
>The only people getting Go are poorfag niggers who only download it because its free
this shit eats your data. unless you have a gorrillion gigabytes don't bother or you'll be paying by the time the phone bill rolls around. can't wait for parents to bitch at nintendo about this in a few weeks.
>>344750414
I'd play it
>>344760185
> Also the thought that Go will lure casuals into buying Sun & Moon is ludicrous. Not gonna happen either, sorry.
ORAS only didn't sell as well becauwe of Yokai Watch blowing up. With Go pushing the mainstream Sun/Moon is going to do gangbusters now.
>>344748545
Pokémon games are shit, fire emblem is already dead, animal crossing has always been casual and would fit the mobile game market pretty well.
>>344760342
nah, the sales of S&M will be more or less average for Pokemon games, and Nintendo will realize that the only faggots playing Go are dudebros and 90s kids hipsters who couldn't be arsed to actually buy a new Nintendo system.
>>344759535
Which is why they need to go mobile only. Not everyone can afford a $40 game, but they CAN afford $1 micro transactions. Having 30 million downloads, but only a fraction buying a few transactions still is a fuck ton of money. Not to mention the whales.
Stop wasting time, resources and MONEY on consoles Nintendo! Focus on the cheaper, more mass market appeal of mobile instead.
>>344760583
3rd gen suffered a lull in sales compared to previous gens. everyone and their chadbrah friends bought Diamond and Pearl.
>>344760658
>Not everyone can afford a $40 game
clearly they can, 15 million people bought it, lots of people bought ORAS too, and there's a ton of hype behind Sun and Moon.
Stay mad.
>>344760545
There isn't evidence that this happens. Nintendo once thought that Wii Sports would also get casuals to buy other games, now that worked out great.
SM will do fine on its own, but not on the coattails of the kind of people playing Go. These casuals will probably decide that they can get their Pokemon fix from a f2p app without investing on a console and full price game.
>>344760583
put 7th Gen Pokemon in Go as rare mons to tease/advert the game.
bam, Sun/Moon do well now.
>>344748545
Nintendo already killed Animal Crossing with Home Designer and Amiibo Festival, so a phone game would be a step forward.
>>344760350
I wish I knew
>>344748545
if anything this will bring more people to the mainline games since you can somehow connect to it and theyre allowed to advertise for free
>>344748589
LOL So true my fellow anonymous. Here at 4chan I would be glad to see. One of the big three companies die so Sony and Microsoft can have a dick waving contest and extort us for even more of our "sheckels" as we call them here.
>>344760850
they'll just start bitching about how the game is adding "fake pokemon" and quit playing. You really think the kinds of people who stopped playing after GSC would spend money on a 3DS?
>>344760875
Home Designer did well and moonland loved it.
Amiibo Festival can die in a ditch though.
>>344748545
The end of traditional gaming will happen if this shit wins GOTY.
I currently see it as a tie between this and Overwatch. Both games have a wave of support going for them that won't slow down anytime soon.
>>344761085
if your excuse is genwunner syndrone you can say that if they add ANYTHING 3rd Gen onwards.
Also you're insinuating that the 7th gen designs so far look bad.
>>344761226
>you can say that if they add ANYTHING 3rd Gen onwards.
That is what I think will happen. Normalfags will start to drop the game when they add Gen 3 pokemon, and it'll continue as they start adding 4, 5, and 6 ones.
>Also you're insinuating that the 7th gen designs so far look bad.
I don't think they look bad at all but the kinds of people having a nostalgia rush for RBY hate any new pokemon without giving them a chance.
>Video games will stop being video games be a app that's hardly a video game is doing well which is no surprise to anyone
Are you retarded?
>>344761340
I know it's anecdotal evidence but a former gunwunner friend of mine loves Litten and the Alola region settings. They have since picked up HGSS and X/Y.
>>344761029
You say extortion as if Nintendo wasn't balls deep into paywalls already
>>344760850
It's actually the opposite. The more Nintendo adds from SM into Go the less reasons casuals will have to buy SM. Not that they ever will in the first place.
>>344761343
Normies consider this shitty app a video game.
You can sure tell who doesn't post on /v/ when you come to these threads
Pokemon stopped being fun/good as soon as Shadow the MewTwo was introduced.
>>344762116
it stopped being fun in the first games?
>>344748545
>>said phone game being successful is going to kill the actual mainline pokemon games
>Makes claim
>Doesn't have citation
Nice theory you have there. Are you aware it's wrong as fuck since Nintendo wants this to be a gateway to actually playing Pokemon?
>>344749317
>Those salty responses
>>344748545
Embrace the warm love of death.
console warriors are so deep in their mindset that the only thing that matters is 'winning' even if the company puts out nothing but shit games
>>344762101
I feel like it's the users who just spam normie
Why are people from the 90s suddenly Normie's? Because they're publicly playing Pokemon? Seems pretty anti-normie to me.
>Normies liking gen 1
Fuck off with your nonsense
>>344761340
Nice unsourced opinion
>>344762746
It's actually the opposite anon. I can tell you're not from here as well.
>>344762031
No they don't go one Facebook or anything else "normies" use its called a app anywhere other than here actually where it's called a game for some reason since it isn't one
>>344762884
How else do you explain every dudebro and basic bitch suddenly claiming to love pokemon despite never owning a 3DS or even a DS?
>>344762746
People who think Red and Blue are the only good parts of pokemon are definitely normalfag plebs blinded by nostalgia.
>>344760724
>there's lots of hype behind sun and moon
kek. Sun & moon will be pirated to hell and only /vp/ kids care about it. Go is your future, pokefag
>>344763312
you're delusional, pirates are a very small portion of 3DS owners, the game will still sell upwards of 10 million. 4chan is not equivalent to the rest of the world.
>>344748545
I don't really care. This Gen of Consoles is terrible, i remember having more fun with my PS3 Slim at this point. And i've been waiting for the Main Line of Pokemon to move to Mobile since last year. Going around with a Fisher Toy looking Machine isn't cool anymore.
>>344763312
Pirates have only been small for large companies, yheyre a problem for indies
>>344763393
>hype for shit & moon is less than XY and ORAS
>3ds piracy is as easy it was on psp, ie every kid on /vp/ and reddit will be pirating it
>shit & moon sells worse than XY and ORAs
please understand, mobile is our future
>>344762969
That's funny I've been on 4chan since 08
>>344763192
Is that really true or just something you pulled out of your ass?
Let be honest the >normies haet gen3
Is a full retard argument. They'll leave before we hear about the gen 2 drops, because they're fucking normies. Everyone who thinks they'll last past the end of next month is just a shit poster bandwagon hating because they can. Or they're fat either or t b h.
>>344763676
>yheyre a problem for indies
Only if you don't let them pirate your shit.
>>344763805
No I agree with you, this is basically like a mini version of the pokemon craze in the 90s. Everyone and their mother will be playing Go until they add Gen 2 and 3 Pokemon, then they'll all lose interest and it'll mostly be the core fans left while the rest forgets it was ever a thing or goes back to ridiculing people who enjoy Pokemon.
>>344748545
>implying that we don't want the mainline Pokemon games dead
They're basically soulless, idealess husks of their former selves. You could argue that the series died after Gen 2, and you can quite clearly tell their hearts just weren't really that in it. Emerald was the last real hurrah of the Pokemon series, 'cause they cram packed that game with so much end game content that no Pokemon game after it comes close. Since then it's simply been graphical updates, the removal of great features, and the inclusion of questionable/bad features, all the while adding hundreds of Pokemon that just aren't that fun or interesting.
These days, Pokemon is just a vehicle for Nintendo to make money and manipulate the youngsters into believing their favorite Pokemon is actual personal choice. Odds are, if you like a specific Pokemon beyond Gen 3, it's been tailor-made to suit your specific tastes, or the specific tastes of very specific groups of individuals. They're not retarded, they definitely know what they're doing.
Although I'd have to say Pokemon GO is the most brazen move they've done in a long time. On paper, Pokemon GO sounds like a spectacular idea, but in execution it's basically just an extremely watered down, lazy clone of Ingress with a Pokemon overlay (by the way, I'd like to mention that whenever I pointed this shit out, you guys would do nothing but defend it because muh nostalgia, fuck you), and it doesn't even have all 151 Pokemon in it. I can only imagine the playerbase will hit a quarter what it is in a month when the honeymoon period wears off and people realize the game was released years too early.
So, nah, I hope GO kills mainline Pokemon.
>>344763758
>>3ds piracy is as easy it was on psp, ie every kid on /vp/ and reddit will be pirating it
its funny that you're this delusional.
Get off the internet every once in a while, your opinion has no basis in reality
>>344748545
>this will happen to Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing in time
Nigger FE is already dead. It's nothing but waifu pandering "babby's first JRPG" now. Even the story is garbage of you can even call it that. So glad i hacked my 3DS
>>344764436
Doesn't mean people in spades are pirating DS games, anon.
In fact many peoeple still buy games
Because if they didn't every franchise you pirate would die because you're a cheap whore.
>>344764346
Why do gen 2-3 pokemon cause such revulsion in the normie?
>>344764808
the fuck are you talking about retard? I'm not a pirate
why don't you read the comment chain before jumping in next time
>>344764816
They grew up and realized Pokemon is for kids but they want to hold on to their nostalgia so they pretend that Red and Blue are somehow way different from the later games even though its all just creature collecting beat the 8 gyms etc.
>>344748545
As long as i can play the Mainline of Pokemon Games in my Smartphone, i don't care if Handheld Gaming dies.
>>344748545
ETERNAL DARKNESS 2 NEVER FUCKING EVER
>>344750282
>next SMT game will be a mobile app where you walk around recruiting demons in your own city
I might play that.
>>344748545
This game is the closest we have to playing Pokemon in the real world and it's fun waling around and finding the different things set as stops or gyms.
>>344764743
>Implying it wasnt garbage
Literally the story of the first one is Marth has blue hair making him the legendary hero.
>Implying Tiki wasnt my first waifu
>>344764816
>>344764346
Average people still know about Gen 2. It's gen 3 that would cause people to drop it.
The first pokemon movie was out in the 90s. There was a short before it that introduced all kinds of gen 2 pokemon. All the "90s kids" who have nostalgia for gen 1 also have nostalgia for the hype/excitement over seeing these "new" pokemon.
If they do decide to add post-gen-1 pokemon, I think gen 2 would do fine. It's gen 3 onward that would kill the game - no one would want to walk around and catch "literally whos."
>>344765543
IMAGINE
>>344756504
>They have been milking the same franchises for 20 years.
If they consistently make good fun games from them then this is literally not a problem
>>344764947
>Taking it personally and missing the point
Spot the pirate.
>>344760350
Kinda looks like 8th MS team? I remember they played up more than just the giant mecha and irregular ways of fighting back against mecs.
>>344760709
>3rd gen suffered a lull in sales compared to previous gens
Why was this?
Well, I have a theory. Gen 2 was still part of the craze. The kids who first played RBY would have likely tried 2. But, those kids were growing up - and pokemon was starting to become "uncool" as they entered middle school (many people wrote articles during the craze stating that it was fading because kids were seeing their younger siblings/etc. "into" pokemon, so it became "uncool." No one wanted to be seen playing Pokemon next to their toddler brother who was swaddled in a Pikachu blanket). Certainly, those middle school gen 1-2 kids wouldn't be caught dead playing gen 3; it was left to the toddler siblings to pick it up - but the craze was gone, and it wouldn't be able to sustain itself on the aging toddler crowd.
Diamond and Pearl, on the other hand, were a bit of a resurgence. A whole new crop of kids was ready for it. It's wasn't the "craze" as the 90s were, but it was now fresh, and didn't have the stigma of "toddlers with pikachu blankets" to make it fade.
>>344764816
It's not revulsion casuals who don't play Pokemon don't recognize much past gen 2 since most of them stopped playing Pokemon or games around its release
Thank Jesus, only fucking normalfags play Pokemon anyway.
>>344748545
>kills traditional gaming
They're going to use this shit as a platform to advertise the actual games rather than scrapping them entirely you fucking retard.
>>344748545
Does it really?
I think most people that play phone games would otherwise just not play video games, and the remaining people who would or already play a lot outside of mobile simply use mobile games to distract themselves on the bus (i.e. what most mobile games are designed for)
Also fuck Pokemon anyway, I'd love it if it was reduced to a shitty phone game.
>>344748545
Thank Jesus, only gay nerds play Pokemon now anyways.
>>344748545
Fire Emblem doesn't work with AR.
But, some sort of Card game with generic units being free and named commanders being freemium pulls... The Outrealm lore already has characters in cars as einherjarls. Shit writes itself.
Animal Crossing I could see it.
>>344764360
>'cause they cram packed that game with so much end game content that no Pokemon game after it comes close
Yeah, playing a 6 different ruled battle modes over and over again to get TMs you want sure is expansive content.
>>344767949
fag
I don't usually like phone games, but I think pokemon go is pretty brilliant.
It's not much of a game in itself, but the fun is to be had with the location aspects, and the social aspects. I know this sounds stupid - but the game is a unique phenomenon because of this.
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