>play competitive
>lose Round 1
>someone on my team leaves before round 2 even begins
>guarantees loss for the entire team because we won't win 5v6 and leaving when someone else does means no penalty but still a loss
>play competitive
>win all rounds
>someone on the enemy team leaves before the match is officially over
>skill points for winning are now less than 10% of what they would've been
>win a dozen matches like this
>a single loss wipes out all those matches
Why the fuck do they insist on punishing everyone else when someone quits?
Also, general Overwatch Competitive complaint thread
No content the game.
>>344311295
>no content
It's a fucking 6v6 class based FPS with 21 heroes and 4 game types, what do you want?
>play Hollywood
>absolutely rape them on defense first round
>they barely cap the last point in time
>sudden death
>only a minute and a half to capture the first point
>lose
>>344311476
>4 game types
It only has 3. It needs more maps, my god the starting number is just pathetic. Another symmetrical game type would be really nice too.
>>344311476
more maps, bigger maps, less emphasis on chokepoints
>>344313642
>less emphasis on chokepoints
This so much. When half the fighting on maps is done at two different chokepoints the maps get older so much faster.
>>344311116
>Be the support for my premade team of 6.
>Win all of our placement matches.
>End up 5-10 ranks lower than the rest of my team, because healing<damage.
>>344313482
>more heroes than launch TF2 with more to come
>more maps than launch TF2 with more to come
>more gamemodes than launch TF2 with more to come
>won't be getting imbalanced weapons
Ranked is full of raging, screaming man-children. Every game I join is 2-3 people shouting at each other. Rank 50+ is so unfun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1CBpB5EII
>>344314702
I have never encountered this, is this a console thing?
>>344314964
Yep.
>>344314563
>B-but TF2
Is tour game THAT shitty that you have to point (subjective) flaws in other games to feel better?
>>344314702
>Rank 50+
More like at any rank. If you want to win so badly, form a group and fuck off instead of airing your mental break down over the mic That said competitive mode has sucked away a lot of the dickbags from quickmeme.
>>344314964
I played about 30 or so matches in competitive mode, about half of them had at least one person anointing them self team douche on my team. That number goes up to like 24 when you see the douche from the other team all chatting about how garbage his team is right before he quits.
Video gamers need to be gassed.
Heres another one
>"durr lets make king of the hill first to 3 instead of first to 2!"
>play 5 fucking rounds
>takes almost half an hour
>fucking end up losing
Huge waste of time to play that fucking long for literally nothing, less than nothing in fact because it deducted from my skill rating. I don't understand what's wrong with ordinary best of 3 koth
>>344313376
Does sudden death happens in an already ongoing round?
Or does a new round start?
If it's mid round it's fucking retarded.
Is anyone else having a problem with the matches just ending all of a sudden? Doesn't matter if team is winning or losing. I dont see anyone from my team or enemy team leaving it just cancels and i get back to main menu. No points lost or gain.
>>344311116
>wallhacks and aimbots: the game
>competitive
your game isn't competitive
its designed with actual retards in mind
>>344314272
You were getting carried what do you expect?
M-muh feelings!
>>344311116
At least the developers are talking to the community and directly making changes based on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA0bgE2P1oA
>>344315340
Not him but I played TF2 at launch and had much less content than OW does.
Didn't cared then don't care now.
Why people bitch so much about "content" when it has plenty and more on its way is beyond me.
>>344311476
>4 game types
>payload and kotl
thats 2.
>doing very well as defence in Dorado
>almost run out the clock
>fucking infinite overtime because they keep contesting
>reach checkpoint, run down the clock again
>overtime again
>next checkpoint
>run down the clock
>overtime, they reach the end
>our turn to attack
>they're running a stupidly annoying defence of Bastion and Torbjorn in hard to reach locations
>somehow manage to run it into overtime still on the first checkpoint
>I die killing Bastion so my team can get to the payload
>have to watch as they let the overtime clock run down, none of them even attempting to get on the objective
With no overtime, that match wouldve been a draw, but instead is was a heavy loss
Just fucking remove overtime completely, it's utter bullshit. Any fucking team can win if you just give them an unending amount of additional time, provided, unlike my team, they actually get on the fucking objective.
Overtime should be reserved for when it's actually close, if we have to have it at all. when a team is at 99% and the point is about to be captured, or when the payload is just a couple metres away from the final checkpoint, it shouldn't occur every time time is up and someone happens to be on the objective.
Personally i think there should be no overtime at all, if you cant win in the time you're given, then you didnt fucking win
>>344321887
Are you....are you an actual retard? Or just one of those people that likes to complain on the internet about how bad a game they've never played is?
Theres defence maps with 2 points 1 team has to capture, there's control (koth), there's escort maps (payload) and there's hybrid maps where attackers have to capture one point and then escort the payload
Is rank 56 any good? I just finished my last placement match.
>Absolutely stomp a hybrid map, running onto the point and pushing payload without even stopping
>Enemy team takes absolutely forever, getting trashed until overtime each time
>Sudden death
>Coin flip
>They're attacking
>Lost cos of a fucking coin flip
This is the one thing they need to patch out with a hotfix. Instantly.
>>344322093
thats some poor bait nigger.
>>344321537
>implying support isn't a vital to the success of the team
Let me know how that straight DPS team works for you.
>>344322116
It's not terrible. But be prepared to lose all your ranks. I started at 59, now 48. Almost every win I've had has had some cry baby on the enemy team ragequit near the end, and it reduces the xp you gain for winning to less than a tenth of what it should've been, so you can win a dozen of those matches, then lose one match and it will wipe out all the progress you made
>>344322126
They will, see >>344321790
>>344322281
>Hold mouse
>Don't have to aim
>Let team do everything else
I am not saying support is not important, dumbass. I am saying it takes no skill to be a healer.
>>344322467
exactly the same happened to me. just be positive and you'll climb back up eventually
I like how people are actually saying it's okay for support players to be less ranked than dps.
>>344323297
None of the top 500 players is support. Go figure.
>tfw rank 42
Whatever happened to Widowmakers and Hanzos? I almost never encounter Widowmakers and only run into a Hanzo every 3 games or so.
>competitive Overwatch
This meme has to die.
>>344321568
>autist
>autistic
>you've done nothing all game
>you're useless
>shut up
>stop typing
>go back to playing with lego
I've said all of this in the last few days. Only ever to people who are being obnoxious little shits though, I never start shit, I'm purely reactive.
>>344323908
Widow no longer ruins games with body shots alone and Hanzo players are probably tired of being yelled at by everybody.
>>344323908
You are incredibly lucky. I've never been in a team that didn't have one of either.
>>344322116
Yes it is good, but staying there might be hard, nearly everyone drops, some by nearly 10 places.
>>344322887
I think you're just confusing Mercy with everyone.
And you're still wrong.
>>344323908
You're in the sweet spot where you're too good to be with shitters and too bad to be with people who actually know how to use the classes
>>344313376
>Play Anubis
>Close game 2/2
>round 3: our team only has 3 mins to cap to cap the first point, they have 5
>somehow manage to win it back to 3/3
>Overtime attack
>Win with double Winston double Lucio
I felt really bad for the other team. That was by far the closest game I've ever had and no doubt they all lost a rank from it.
>>344324429
>Zennyatta
>On comp
ayy lmao
>>344324631
I played a match where we had SIX FUCKING ROUNDS on Anubis. That was literally hell.
>>344325332
How does it go on that long?
>>344311116
The games are too long to lose. I don't care about my rank just the comp points for the gun. Games take like 30-40mins and thats a majority of them. Which means for an average joe it will take about 250-300 hours of playtime to earn a golden gun.
Comp points should be an experience bar you get enough xp to earn 1 point if you win and bonus for how well you do. That way even if you lose if you got 4 golds and were a team player you'd get something towards your next comp point. Leavers and non-contributors will get nothing/less.
>>344325241
Even if Zenyatta is the weakest Overwatch hero hes still the funnest
>>344321857
>>344314563
TF2 was a side game packaged inside of the Orange Box
It had less content on launch but was also considerably cheaper, it also didn't have microtransactions at launch
>>344325425
If both teams cap both points, it starts new rounds until the 10 mins runs out.
>>344325332
It was super close. Both team capped all the points every round, so it just kept going on. Round 5 and 6 only had 2 minutes for each point. We managed to cap both points round 5 with plenty of time to spare, but they only got their first point at 1:59 so we won in the end.
>>344325528
>it also didn't have microtransactions at launch
>muh microtransactions
Not this again. There is literally nothing you cannot unlock purely by playing the game (except 5 origins skins with a physical copy of the game), there is literally nothing you can buy or earn in game that will even remotely affect gameplay, everything is purely cosmetic, new maps and new characters will be completely free. You can earn 1 loot box per hour just by playing the game regardless of how well you play, i really couldnt give less of a shit if people want to pay real money to earn loot boxes, filled entirely with cosmetic junk, instead of levelling up, and you really shouldn't care either
>>344326032
>there is literally nothing you can buy or earn in game that will even remotely affect gameplay
Wrong. Hanzo has a skin that is objectively stronger than the base skin due to changing the voice line of his ult into one that is much quieter and less distinct.
>play overwatch
>don't suck
>actually help teammates
>win
You guys are doing it wrong.
>play competitive
>its just quick play with higher stakes and nobody's happy when its over
>>344326334
>due to changing the voice line of his ult into one that is much quieter and less distinct.
Please, for the love of god, tell me this is irony
>>344326334
>Loud ass AWOOOOOOOOO when it goes off.
>Quieter
>Play with group of friends
>They routinely pick Hanzo and Mei
Solo Q is looking preferable right now
>>344326656
>>344326720
It starts a bit quieter, that's what is important. Either way, it changes the gameplay since vocal cues are a big part of avoiding/mitigating ults.
how's that 20 tick working out?
>>344326457
I'm not remotely claiming Im particularly good, but my win rate is 60% and yet I've dropped 11 ranks
>inb4 you must be the weakest on your team
I just finished a match with 50 eliminations and 36 objective kills
>>344326935
Awful
With TF2 Competitive maybe working in the next month it doesn't feel like there is an incentive to play overwatch. Might come back to the game when it's not shit.
>>344326904
Oh so an Ult "starts a bit quieter" and this is your proof of an effect on gameplay? Incidentally, how does this tie into microtransactions even slightly? You could get that skin in your very frist loot box, you could save up for dozens of levels and buy it when youre closer to level 30, the microtransactions themselves wont even have much effect on your chances of getting anything specific
>>344326009
How the fuck do you find opposition so shit at defending that you can cap 2 points in 2 mins, yet so good at attack they can do they exact same thing to you?
>>344327168
>Oh so an Ult "starts a bit quieter" and this is your proof of an effect on gameplay?
You said no effect, a tiny effect is still an effect. With microtransactions you can get it sooner. Yes the effect is absolutely tiny, but when you deal with absolutely, as you clearly did, even the tiniest itty bitty contradiction makes you wrong. If you had said "virtually no effect" then I would have no argument, but you didn't.
>>344326937
I bet you autolock offense/defense without looking at your comp.
>>344327459
>You said no effect, a tiny effect is still an effect.
Smells like autism
>>344326748
>Play with a group of friends
>They are just shit
Feel like my skill rating has a heavy anchor pulling it down.
>>344327751
>ad hominem
Sounds like you lost.
>>344318112
sudden death happens if both teams got the same number of capture points on attack.
It happens after the mirror match
>>344326748
>>344327797
I know that feel
Player 1
>only plays Mercy and Lucio but bitches constantly about having to play healer
>if someone else offers to play healer he tells them off and says that he'll do it
Player 2
>plays Widowmaker and Hanzo 90% of the time
>bastion when he doesn't
>absolutely horrible with both snipers
Player 3
>only plays D.Va
>ever
>gf of player 2 and the most annoying person on the planet
>LOL GUYS I JUST GOT A DOUBLE KILL, IT WAS SO AWESOME YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYY!!!!!!!!!
Player 4
>plays pretty much everyone, but Zarya/Reinhardt the most
>actually pretty good
>but takes the game way too seriously
>gets really mad really fast
>sorest loser in the world
Player 5
>player 4's brother
>below average, but not terrible
>never says anything
>mostly plays Reaper, Torb, and Bastion
I need new friends.
>>344318112
You are confusing sudden death with overtime I think.
Sudden Death is an extra mini-round at the end of a match to decide the winner. A bullshit fucking coin toss decides who wins, because whoever gets the coin attacks the first obj or has to push the payload to a certain point. The defending team is usually in a huge disadvantage because the obj A was designed to be easier to take because the attackers usually spawn close to it while the defenders usually spawn a fucklong distance away. Nubani or however you spell it is the only one that is kinda even.
Overtime happens at the end of a round if time is up but attacks are still on the payload/obj. It goes until the defenders clear the attackers or the attackers pass an point and get more time/win the round. It is BS because if you clear off the attackers a 10 second time bar empties to signal the end of a match, but if any attacker gets within range of the obj for even a second it completely refills, allowing characters like Tracer or Genji to force the match to keep going by stepping on the obj then running away only to return to refill the bar.
>>344311116
>tfw you realize your best friend is the shitter keeping you down
I was always gold gold gold gold gold gold or something but we kept losing with like a 40% winrate overall, I had no idea wtf to do I thought we were just having mad teammate luck.
but then I noticed that every time my mate went offline and I did a couple of games alone, I would easily carry those games and get like huge win streaks. happened exactly like this since comp came out.
I think my teammate might just be so fucking bad that he pull the entire team down and that's why I'm stuck at rank 55 with him instead of getting higher (I get to 60-62 every time after just a couple of games playing alone, but next day I mate up with him again and get lower).
>>344313376
>not just going double winst/lucio/mercy/pharrah/reaper and owning every trash pub team that can't deal with it.
I suggest this strat every time and I think we cap the first point in the first push 95% of the time.
>>344328837
>no characters left
don't know what to do about it. he's one of those stubborn guys who get instantly annoyed when you implie that they might be bad and he gets super frustrated when he tries new stuff and doesn't immediately own everyone. so now he keeps playing one of those reinhardts that focus more on doing damage than shielding teammates.
>>344314272
>6 man premade
you have it better than most people so shut up
>>344327459
So... cant you learn both voice lines and know theyre both for the hanzo ult?
I play ranked for the points, not the rank. It's broken. Can't wait for my murika mustachio Stuntman 76 with a golden rifle.
>>344328581
>Playing Reinhardt on attack
>Put up shield at chokepoint and walk forward to let my team get to cover/doorway
>Idiots keep jumping through my shield to attack the enemy because they think it blocks friendly fire, get sniped and constantly dying.
>Complain about noob Rein not doing his job.
I sometimes wish I could strangle them through their computer, or maybe just force them to DC before that 1:30 mark to auto cancel the game.
>>344311116
>"competitive"
>in rock,parper,cisors: the game
I also have the trouble with bad teammates,nok maybe they are not bar, but their average at best.
Which is the problem.
I am aiming to get to 60 by the end of the season, I'm level 52-53 right now and I've been doing a pretty good job when it comes to healing.
My most played is Lucio, but I fear that I can't get anywhere with him.
Not that I'm bad, but I most of the team rely on my team, yet I think everyone who's been placed 50-59 knows you go down quickly.
A lot of the team I am earning golds yet I always go Lucio on sudden death/final attempt.
Out of the three 3 coin flips, we won, 2attack, 1def.
However, constantly playing Lucio means I don't earn enough golds to rank up as first, even though in many games I have gotten potg and even caped points by myself. It doesn't reward supports proply and that's the problem. The worst part, is my friends really are not e same level on ranked or just to be honest below average. Sometimes.
I can't rely on them too much but they help me keep awake with my new punishment system for losing overwatch comp matches. To make it worse, the "best" plays hanzo and genni the most.To be far though, I main men and bastion though
>>344330794
>rock,parper,cisors: the game
You could say the same thing about Starcraft, but yet that clearly is with millions of dollars and fame on the line.
I keep hearing the "it's just a game!!!" and "you're so salty" when playing comp. I mean, I play comp to win, and those seem like copouts that shitters make. Why not just do quickplay instead if you don't care?
or am i actually just salty
>>344311476
You mean capture the flag (this is one mode)
-capture one flag and defend it
-capture two flags
-capture a flag to get a car which you "capture"
Most heroes are useless and the maps are boring. After a couple of hours you know every map and than it gets boring.
>>344332317
This is the thing that always pisses me off. Quick match is 'just a game'. You want to go bastion on attack in QM? Fine. You want to main genji when all the enemies are playing aoe or spray enemies like Mei? Fine. It's QM, I am going to do my thing while working with the team, and you can do yours.
But Comp is different. It is a competition to see who is better. They have a ranking system and you get shit based on how well you have done.
I am not going to salt in your ear, and I hate people that start bitching and salting in other people's ear, but why the fuck are you picking bastion on attack in Comp mode? Why are you doing that 'genji main' bull when their heroes counter you?
>>344332780
>Most heroes are useless and the maps are boring.
Sounds like someone's salty. Did mommy not buy you Overwatch like all the other kids? :(
>PLAY PC
>Rank 58
>Fuck this, time to grief on PS4
>Rank 68
Also is ps4 overwatch dead? Keep seeing the same 3 groups of people everytime. I think ps4 overwatch is battledore tier dead, I only bought it for my pleb mates as well.
>>344332780
They had a CTF game mode but Tracer decimated it so hard, that they scrapped it.
>>344335029
Nobody is stupid enough to buy a FPS on console. Only CoD faggots do that.
>>344314163
Except then flankers would be overpowered
Thank god we don't get /v/ to design balance
>>344335537
>Only CoD faggots do that
That's because cod is dead as fuck on PC anon. It's also fun to shit on consolefags
>>344335617
If anything flankers are the strongest on chokepoints because everybody is packed on a point, so when you get behind you just don't pick one but two.
Why do you think reaper is used so much on defense?
Thanks god we don't h have you to design balance.
>>344327459
>>344326904
>>344326334
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745434425?page=7#post-136
They've already addressed that issue and are fixing it.
>>344332780
>Most heroes are useless
Only one doesn't see tournament play. Even if you call those used infrequently "useless" - which they are not - you still have over a dozen heroes left.
Does this game not have team death match?
>>344336508
Gosh no. I would like the mode just to have it, as long as it isn't included in the random gametype rotation.
>>344335976
Reaper is not even a flanker, he's more of an ambush and really unique in his role.
Flankers are tracers and genjis. If you have everyone in one place they can't single anyone out and do nothing.
>>344336330
Up to 3-4 heroes don't see play if there is hero stacking and only one if there isn't.
>>344336826
>If you have everyone in one place they can't single anyone out and do nothing.
>What is Tracer's mine
>What is genji's ult
And Reaper is definitely one, his TP can easily place him behind enemy lines, and can pop his ult unchecked.
This isn't a problem for TF2 and Dirty bomb, it wouldn't be a problem for OW as well.
The "smooth" sections of payload are by fast the best moments (Like the end of King's row)
It's just the general level design is complete crap
>>344333127
youre right son
comp is needs to be taken seriously by everyone for it to work
>play nepal
>win the first 2 rounds
>everyone on the enemy side starts playing winston and junkrat
>losses
>>344336508
that would probably suck
>>344337196
>koth
>win first 2 rounds
>enemy finds a team comp that works
>rapes you with it
I absolutely hate how many times this happens to me
>placed 63
>37 hours later I'm 61
>briefly hit 60
>got matched with sub 50 shitters
>constant disconnects, bastions, hanzos, torbs
>if I lose more I'll be stuck in shitter hell worst than quick play
send help
>>344321568
i remember back when i was playing wow were people were at eachothers throats all the time.
have people really gone so soft.
>>344336612
Wait. You can't even choose what game mode you want to play?
>>344337768
Unfortunately yeah
Blizzard isn't helping by facilitating it either
>went from rank 52 to 34
im not a bad player. its the others im playing with. they the ones keeping me down!
>>344337154
>do nothing until ult
>ult takes forever to charge
Well that sure is credit to team
Lots of ults can destroy chokes, not just flankers.
The difference being they aren't useless without ults in chokes
>>344338075
What are the teams like at the 30s
>>344320046
its called competitive mode faggot , jesus how stupid are you? nice reaction image btw XD welcome to teh 4chan friend
>>344338276
Winnable with battle mercy
>>344337785
Sadly no. But there's so few types and so few maps it would feel even staler faster if you could.
>>344338603
sometimes, it feels like im playing a set of stages more than others. chosig what map you want to play or control how often you get set map would be a blessing.
>>344338501
Ive gone from 59 to 48 because faggots quit when they're losing and it decimates any possible progress. I would like to play Mercy more but worry my team will go to shit without me on the front line. I constantly see people not getting on the objective when they should be, several times I've kept the enemy team back more or less by myself with my death being the only time the enemy makes progress, got 50 eliminations with Junkrat earlier today, I think we still lost
