Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353/r
/v/ officially likes ZTD Edition
>Favourite Character
>Favourite Tune
>What twist from the series was the most shocking for you
>Sigma
>Chill and Rigor
>"Find the door with a q on it"
>>344151882
mfw Chill and rigor doesn't appear in ZTD
I don't get it, the transporter only transported baby Delta and Phi to one other timeline. How come in all the timelines, Delta exists to set up the Decision Game and Phi exists to be a participant?
>>344152046COMPLEX MOTIVES
Just one question I have left overEveryone is saying that Delta mindhacks all the decisions that are made. But what about all the decisions in timelines where Delta is executed?
>>344151625
>tied between VLR Sigma abs Carlos
>that one song that repeats for the entire game
>Mindhac
>>344152046
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTSTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX
>>344152046
The transporter works differently, the body is created for all the timelines
There's also 2 Carlos and 2 Mira/Eric in all the timelines
>>344152046
It transporteed them to a point before the timelines diverge, so they appear in all the timelines that split off after the point they were sent to. In this case, every timeline in the series is after that point. The transporter is different to the SHIFTing
>>344151625
>Was sigma, now it's time cop carlos
>senary game
>999's twist of why I have to play different routes and upside down sudokuand as I played the game I thought zero was Ace, and then after that I though it was Santa. I was wrong twice
>>344152035
Are you fucking serious ? It's everywhere
>No quietus remix that plays during a ZTD bad ending
why live?
Requesting a Hydra Cap edit with Delta saying My motives are actually pretty simple or some such shit.
>>344152131I don't remember now myself but some people are saying that on the timelines where Q-Team was executed, the decision games were all luck based. Like with the rec room, the monty hall problem and the AB game.
>>344152131
In the timeline where Delta is executed, all the decision games revolve around a probability game
>>344152248
Seconding this
>>344152280Forget about the AB game I'm retarded.
>>344152283
>>344152280
That's actually pretty clever. Say what you will about Uchi, he definitely tries to think of everything
how the fuck is this supposed to be the series finale
literally none of the hanging threads from VLR were addressed and there's a terrorist that's gonna kill 8 BILLION PEOPLE for some reason
it's time.post 'em.
>>344152370
he definitely puts effort in everything he does, but I still can't wrap my head around why he chose to drop Kyle's plot entirely.
>>344151625
>Akane
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWYdW5JPQ7c
>999's Zero and the reasoning behind the whole thing
>>344151625
So Uchi wrote D-team's story and the other two writers wrote C and Q? Means it could've been much better if he just wrote everything by himself,or worse
>>344152428
>there's a terrorist that's gonna kill 8 BILLION PEOPLE for some reason
He's not.
>>344152370
Honestly it's not perfect because there's the "do we drink this antidote?" for team D and you can argue that the AB game is not luck based
But i don't know if we have to think that Delta had the need to mind hack all the decisions
For example, he can't mind hack Sean at all
I think he uses mind hacks in the cases where some choices are not meant to happen normally
Like Carlos and Diana going against the characters and executing others
Holy shit I think the only thing to actually piss me off is how fucking bloodthirsty Akane is. The second something bad happens to Junpei, just tries to murder you. The AB game probably me rage the hardest.
>>344152490
>Best character wasn't written by Uchi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7-sK3icMSE
Best song in the entire game. Too bad it's only used in the credits.
My favorite character(s) is Carlos and Sigma.
The shock that got me wasDelta being Phi's sister, and Phi being Sigma and Diana's daughter.
>>344152607
It was needed for her to be super fast about it because she was soon gonna die by poison, but for story reasons Carlos had to be put in immediate danger in order to shift again
>>344152467
Not as good as yours, but a mix of them would be perfect. You got your Akane mixed up
>>344152607
Really? It made me like her even more.
Why does Junpei have such a potty mouth in this game?
>>344152490
What ? Of course not. The sub-writers were simply there to assist him and question dialogue, inconsistencies, foreshadowing, etc.
>>344152706
>Phi being Sigma and Diana's daughter.
Honestly was anyone surprised by it? The eyebrows were a giveaway.
>>344152839
Don't you remember him in 999? He sweared costantly
>>344152872
I think everyone guessed it months ago where we saw the colored artworks, me included. I didn't even doubt it.
Still wish Phi was trap Santa or alternate timeline Santa. I would've liked that much more than D+S=P+D
>>344152732
I get that, but when Junpei kills you, she like"Meh" Carlos was way too good for those people.
>>344152872
I just thought they were twins initially because Phi had the TWIN xpass + was a redhead
Realized it after i got MOM and DAD xpasses
>>344152872
>>344152949
I thought Diana would be Phi'ssister.
This makes more sense though yeah.
>>344152739
that chart is awesome. Props to you.
>>344152872
yeah it was kind of obvious. I'm sure everyone realized it sooner or later, no way there's someone who understood it only when it was explicitly said
>>344152907
Did you expect her to fucking kill Junpei? Her entire character in ZTD is about trying to redeem him for what he's done because of her.
>>344153058
Butz joins the police or something? Shit man, I'm only on case two of the second game. Good to see he reappears though
>>344152839
He was the exact same in 999.
>>344152467
As much as we all like to rag on Alice for the AB game, literally every character would have done the same thing. She's just the one that got shown.
>>344153218
He reappers like a billion times
>Only one cat pun from Sigma all game
Why did Delta kill the doggy? Literally for what reason?
>>344153218
No, he just finds a part-time job as a security guard. Don't worry though, he shows up many times, and he's a fucking idiot in each and every one of them.That's why we love him.
>>344153218
Yeah it's from the third game and Larry is the culprit in the second case there.
>>344153256
Noiyce
>>344153265
Gab was trying to mind hack him.
>>344151625
>Junpei
>Morphogenetic Sorrow
>The answer to that is easy. He knew because I knew.
We never got an escape room with
>Only Carlos & Junpei and Junpei & Akane
>Only Sean & Mira and Eric & MiraWho wuld want that
>Only Diana & Phi and Phi & Sigma
Speculate on how they would have been
>>344153342
>>344153345
I gotta keep playing to see this shit.If only I could put down Infinite Space
We need sitcom about Carlos' everyday life and his shifting.
"The shifting life of Carlos"
>>344153486
I just want to see his kawaii imouto.
>>344153412
I think the second column wasn't doable because you're supposed to "play as the leaders"
The first column would have been cool
>>344153479
Second game you said? The last case of justice for all is probably the best case in the whole saga. Keep playing, get through that shit that is the third case, and GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE before someone ruins it for you
>>344151625
How the fuck do i unlock this shit?
>>344153486
It starts with Time Cop Carlos shooting Carlos at the end of ZTD
>No final Q room divided in three parts where you alternate between controlling Junpei, Sigma and Carlos.
They really missed the fanservice boat in this game.
Also, in C ending, I kept expecting Zero to tell Junpei about how he's meant to take care of the one who'll take over Free the Soul or some shit, just to tie Quark into all this.
>>344153412
I really, really wish we'd gotten an escape room with only Junpei and Akane. I eventually got sick of them pussyfooting around everything. I wish we had an escape room where Junpei could outright talk about how her being Zero affected him and Akane could defend herself.
>>344151625
Junpei outside of 999 or Sigma
Honestly ZTD had the best characters in the series. Every one of them was a flawed asshole with complex motives. Characters in other games are just onedimensional anime tropes.
Ambidexterity
Zero's identity in VLR and PERCEPTIVE-END in ZTD
>>344153553
There were a couple scenes with only Junpei and Akane, specifically the apocalypse ending before Carlos arrived.
>>344153590
Third case of the second game or the third. I wanna know when the tough times come
>>344151625
>Sean
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYpTV5-UHpk
>the upside-down sudoku puzzle
>>344153634
>Junpei is now happy with his wifey
>He'll never think to adopt Quark again
Shit that's sad
>>344153634
>The one who'll take over FTS
Was Quark ever meant to do that? This i don't remember
>Quark is related to Carlos
>>344153690
I wish we had an escape room where they outright fucked.
what the fuck are these threads and why are they here instead of /vg/
fuck off
>>344153601
You have to clear everything that happens before opening the yellow door in the other timeline.
>>344153837
No one knows what he was supposed to do or be, so I just wanted Zero to go "Oh yeah, Junpei, you are meant for great things. The one you'll protect.... will become the next Brother" or some other stupidity.
>>344153786
Third case of the second game. It's widely considered one of the worst cases of AA along with the third one of the fourth game. It's totally worth it though, as I said, the last case is absolutely insane.
>>344152195
It isn't in ZTD, sadly
It was used in both 99 and VLR, but not a whiff of it in ZTD
Another dissapointment...
>>344153876
'cause it's actually discussing the game and it's not only avatarfagging and waifufaggotry
>>344153876
>Game just came out, 1 thread
>Meanwhile there's like 4 OW threads
You just hate fun man
>>344153820
I'm sure if Quark is actually born, he'd a. have loving parents and if he didn't, Sigma or Phi would probably make him aware and he and Akane would adopt him.
>>344153947
Which one is the third one?
The circus case?
>Junpei and Akane are written with japanese romance tropes, including Yandereness, desperate love confessions, and limite on-screen physical contact
>Sigma and Diana are written with western ones, including drunk sex and past dysfuntional relationships.
>>344153947
Nice. I'll have to get back into it. Another question... Are games 4 and 5 as awful as people say, or are they more like the ZTD of the series?
I'm going to marry carlos!
>>344153953
Trepidation was in it far too much though. They could've substituted that a few times. And that's my favorite tune in the series.
>Recollection is never used anywhere in the game.
Really pissed me off. The one song from 999 I expect to hear again, aside from Morphogenetic sorrow.
>>344154050
You can bet your ass it is.
>>344154085
I enjoyed all of the AA games, no exceptions. It's just, some games are just worse than the others. Apollo Justice is bad compared to the other AAs, but I think it's still a pretty good game with enjoyable moments and characters. Dual Destinies is not that bad, just way too easy, also >DLC case
>>344153601
>>344153890
You probably also have to get Q team executed in the vote.
>>344154085
4 is okay and 5 is great, don't fall for people's shitty opinions here
>>344154085
>4
It's a weird take because after 3 games you're so attached to Phoenix you can't like Apollo that much
The best cases of 4 do not hold a candle to the best cases of the fhirst 3 games
>5
No idea there
>>344154204
Cool. Because the way /v/ blows things outta proportion, I was half expecting a complete omnishambles. Sounds like you feel the same way that I do about ZTD in Zero Escape rankings
>>344154204
AJ also has one of the most insane and terrifying villains in the whole saga in my opinion. I cannot hate it just for that alone.
>>344154085
They're both fine. Apollo get shit on for not having enough Phoenix, while Dual Destinies gets shit on for having too much Phoenix.
>>344154204
Ienjoyedthe circus case because it was so stupid
>>344153590Why was the only likable character in the 3rd case Acro. Moe was bad until he admitted he knew people thought he wasn't funny, then he was just sad
>>344154085
4 has the worst plot twist in the entire series and has the worst most contrived overall story too. Two of the cases are awful, and the other two are decent. It's not a good game.
5 is fine.
>>344154335
I didn't hate it nearly as much as SUGAR SUGAR blind kid shenanigans case, but I admit it was pretty bad.
>>344154360Acrois wasted potential at its highest. Fuck them, he could've been so much more.
>>344154390
First case of Apollo Justice is awesome, what are you smoking?
The third case on the other hand... Jesus Christ.
>>344151625
I've never played the 999 series, but that OP image is fucking awesome. Movie poster quality.
So wait, Junpei liked Akane as kids, and in 999 she says that he meant a lot to her as kids.
She then vanished for ten years, right?
Did he know she went to America and followed her there? Or did she see in her vision from the future that that's where he'd be moving, and stayed there to set the whole Nonary game up?
>>344154184
>>344153953
Oh shit I mixed up Trepidation with Chill and Rigor my bad
>>344154537
Yet i do not understand the symbolism
>>344154584
Nope. He didn't know what happened to her until they met in 999 again.
>>344154584
?
Junpei had no idea where Akane was until Zero kidnapped him and 999 happened.
>>344152142
He should be The Sorrow, they even look kinda similar
>>344152467
That's odd, why'd you post the wrong version?
>>344154693
>>344154753
So after the kidnapping, Akane just stayed in the America while her brother set up their company using the stock market?
>>344152142
thumbnail looks like he's wearing a sexy latex dress
lewd
>>344154827
Most likely since in just a year she was gonna partecipate in ZTD and so had no time to go to Japan again i guess
>>344154204
I still don't get why people hate the Circus case
>>344154827
Which makes no sense because muh fragmented information. Delta was helping them even as kids.
>>344154826
that's perfect.
>>344154947
no good villian, annoying witnesses, doesnt add anything to character development
>>344154947
Because AA isn't suppose to be silly
>Proceeds to Channel something
>>344154208
I have everyone executed.
All this did was unlock that Q shit with zero where he gave the pass for his helmet.
What was the purpose of Delta following around Q Team?
Was getting caught part of his plan?
If Akane wanted to help and stay with her beloved Jumpy so much, why did she run away at the end of 999?
Didn't she know he'd become a pissed edgelord just to find her? In VLR, there's the implication that it was because of what would happen in the test site, but in ZTD, she clearly says she doesn't really know what's going to happen because all her visions from the future are fragmented and incomplete, so why did she just leave him behind?
Is she just retarded?
>>344154947
method of killing more retarded than usual (considering AA standards that's really something), badly handled killer, annoying as shit witnesses and defendant. I didn't despise it but fuck me sideways I didn't like it one bit.
>>344155157
Of course.
>>344154947
Because it has one of the worst logic leaps in the series
>>344155175
>Is she just retarded?
Yes
>>344155175
Maybe she didn't want to burden him with her crusade?
Which is stupid cause apparently Jumpy is able to take down terrorist HQs
>>344155146
Have you got the left ending when Eric asks Q who killed Mira? The answer isto let the timer run out / I don't know
>>344155225
is that the part wherethe bust falls on his head, then somehow the cape transfers flawlessly onto the bust, and the court immediately accepts it as fact?
>Phi is best character. Can't say no to a snarky meganekko
>Also hard to argue against how powerful of a song Morphogenetic Sorrow is, despite how it was overused in ZTD. Clarification from VLR is another favorite though
>Probably going to go with Sigma being and old man and Zero Sr. for the twist that blew my mind the most
>>344155356
>The answer is actually to stop bullshitting him and just tell the truth
Fucking magical
>>344155331
>Junpei and Seven did more to stop FtS than Akane ever did.
>>344155331
>R6 is about to kill 6 billion
>buh bye Jumpy
It's clear Akane only cares about the non-fucked timeline Jumpy.
>>344155424
I disliked the overuse of Blue Bird Lamentation. It's still an awesome song, but eh.
>>344155441
>fts still exists in VLR meaning that Junpei and Seven changed nothing
>>344155356
Ohh damn i was stuck on that shit thinking i had to get an answer from another fragment or something.
>>344155496
>R6 is about to kill 6 billion
>Instead of enlisting Junpei, Carlos and Maria, hinted at to be a powerful esper, and using the Transporter, a magical alien tech device that doesn't even respect the laws of causality and relativity
>She just follows a bootstrap and does VLR again and again, trapping herself in a failed timeline.
Akane is a complete retard.
>>344155157
everything is part of his grand plan
>>344155157
He's a complex guy.
>>344155553
It wasn't overused
>>344155646
There is a timeline where this happens. We just don't see it
>>344155723
For Q.
>>344155741
why did he do it again? I played this a long time ago and I barely remember this case
>japanese kid that can't solve a sudoku
>turns out to be a retard
Why are people surprised?
Just finished it
So Free the Soul is literally nothing? It was just a back-up plan to kill 3/4ths of the population because of a terrorist? What the fuck was Zero/Delta/Brother doing?
>>344155792
He wanted to kill Regina because she accidentally killed his brother by bringing some pepper into a lion's nose who bit his head off. Not even joking. Regardless, he's a genius and managed to kill her father instead.
Action Spin-off featuring Junpei and Seven going on buddy cop adventures, when?
Fuck, it doesn't even have to be an action game. Can we get the people who wrote Hotel Dusk to do it?
>Think that with a cinematic approach and a cast with a lot of recurring characters can shield me from the twist of "Zero was among the partecipants all along" or at least see it coming if it's one of the new characters
>I don't see it coming
>The cinematic approach was key to it
OH MY GOD THEY DID IT AGAIN AND I FELL FOR IT
>>344155796
You should replay the scene because the probem is not that she can't solve a sudoku
>>344155646
I think the whole thing is that it's already fucked in that timeline. They do say the roof caved in "some time ago" and that there's sand everywhere. Carlos showing up with help didn't mean anything when the whole world got fucked. She also seems to know she needs to make the AB game to get Sigma down into the shelter, which is likely the other reason she does it.
Yes, her having done it once would mean Siggy and Phi can show up, but only if it had already been done, and there's no real way to know if you're in a timeline in which it doesn't matter...right?
>>344155796
>has to solve it within a time limit
>literally her first time seeing a Sudoku
This meme needs to stop
>>344155902
I am never touching the ZE series ever again after the disaster it was, I have better games to play now
>>344155891
On that note, how good is Hotel Dusk?
Better/Worse than Ace Attorney/Zero Escape?
>>344155887
Oh, right. I think this wasn't as bad as AJ's one
>>344155943
>live in Japan
>never saw a sudoku before
>>344155750
No there isn't. Akane was a retard in every single timeline which is why Delta had to step up.
>>344155848
Saving the world, duh. Akane kept allowing the terrorist kill 8 billion.
>>344155949
Figures, but anyway :
"The only thing i can see on the screen is my reflected face covered in tears"
She literally cannot see the sudoku
That is why she needs Junpei to solve it for her and you have to tilt your screen
Does anyone have that one pic of 999 junpei looking high as fuck
>>344151625
> Would say Akane as she's somewhat both cute and crazy, and the mastermind behind 999 and VLR
> Aside from the obvious ones (999 & VLR main themes, Morphogenetic Sorrow, Blue Bird Lamentation, Chill & Rigor...), I would say Pantry from VLR. So glad it was used in a trailer and in the Study room.
> Morphogenetic fields were the purpose of the multiple routes in 999. It breaks the fourth wall in such a perfect way, allying player gameplay and experience with story narration. Way more effective thanever17's 4th dimension
>>344155969
It and Last Window aren't much in terms of puzzle solving compared to AA/ZE/Layton, but it's comfy as fuck
>>344155929
Here's how you solve it:
>Have Phi and Sigma there as usual
>Also take Junpei, Carlos and Maria to the moon
>Now everyone except Eric and Mira know the drill
I'll never understand why Akane never used Junpei and Carlos in her plans. I mean, I get none of this game was planned around the time VLR came out, but looking back, VLR Akane is just a complete idiot.
>>344155969
it's pretty chill. I liked both games and Kyle is pretty dope
MINDHACK
>>344155969
I dunno. But I have it on my R4 ready for once I've finished AA. ZE still the best though
>>344155969
Love both games. Noir as fuck, and both feel comfy.
>>344156124
Daily reminder that the spiritual successor Chase is getting localized and released this fall by Askys games
>>344156038
She had like a few minutes to solve a sudoku puzzle. I doubt I could do that under pressurebut then again I'm a retard who is shit at timing games
>>344156094
>better than Ever17 twist.
Agree 100%. For all the talk about licking Uci's balls, people need to realise that that twist had nothing on some of his other stuff.
Man, I wish I hadn't done every choice early. This fragment thing is annoying me because I want to be able follow what decisions I made instead of clicking one and finding out it was for another choice. Is there an easier way to do this?
>>344156038
What's your point? She's a child
After finishing ZTD I am glad the money is going to Danganronpa instead
>>344156285
>>344156094
To be honest, the morphogenetic field is just another coined term for the same fucking thing, more or less.
Uchi has quite literally always used the same pseudoscience in all, all of his games.
>>344156331
Yeah because THAT conclusion won't be bullshit.
>>344156331
>Danganronpa good
My money is Junko is the villain in the next DR
>>344156285
FUCK Ever17
>>344152131
He mind hacks some of the decisions where the participants questions why they did that.
>>344156214
Let me know when it gets a pc port.
>>344156172
>Quark, ZTD Akane
>God Tier
>Mira
>Awesome Tier
>Zero Jr
>Fucking Funyarinpa Tier
I know this is all about opinions, but that is an objectively awful placement
Akane is denser than a collapsed star,Why would she be mad at Junpei for coming up with a plan that got them seven X passes by just shifting? She got them all killed with the nuclear implosion and did the exact same thing, except that had no benefits until Junpei had an idea, She was even fucking joking around like nothing was wrong with that whole scenario.
So Delta is a "good guy" right? I was mildly looking forward to this being the first time that the games were created by someone with actual malicious intent. Delta just wanted to create one of two timelines: one in which 6billion died to save 2billion (the more likely scenario in his mind), while also creating the potential for a timeline in which he makes 6 super powerful espers to find the dude that sets off the nuke. I'm getting that right, right?
>>344156324
>>344156234
>>344155949
>>344155943
>>344155796
Stop perpetuating this meme, go back to scram COMPLEX
She's a retard, yes, but for other reasons
"There was a monitor, a keyboard, and a cross-shaped device of some kind.
Something about the machine scared me, but I forced myself to walk up to it.
I was terrified.
Tears poured down my face.
I wiped them off, even as more took their place, and forced myself forward.
Finally, I reached it.
I looked at the screen. It was blank.
All I saw was my own frightened face staring back at me from the glass,
drenched in tears."
>>344156331
>I did it for the despairz
>gonna be the bad guy in every fucking game
Both dropped the ball hard.
>>344156214
is it going to be the same art style or will it be 3d?
what was the puzzle people said you could play wrong?
>tfw Sean-kun LITERALLY went to Gensokyo
I still think the best twist of the series is:Junpei's perspective was the top screen.Akane's perspective was the bottom screen.
>>344156558
It's different when you have to see and feel the dying bodies of your friends on top of you before shifting away though.
>>344156558
>Junpei: We're going to shield you with our bodies
>Carlos: THE FUCK
funniest goddamn moment in the entire series
So Eric realizes that Mira killed his mother, right?
>>344156558
She hates seeing Junpei dead.
She's OK with everyone dying as long as she doesn't see it.
>>344156643
I never understood that that was the twist until I read about it 3 years later.
I thought Akane was the bottom screen only in the last scene, after the screen flashes white.
>>344156331
Maybe I'll take Danganronpa seriously when it takes itself seriously.It fails even when it does try to be serious, though.
>>344156605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6eFqA-HIJc
>>344156558
never forget that she killed D-Team in coldblood in that scenario
>>344156410
Well it makes so much more sense thanepic 4th dimension being being tricked in two points of 3 dimension space
>>344156974
Yeah. It may be the same twist, but it's refined and done better.
>>344156871
Neat. I miss the old style but at least it's not full 3D like VLR and ZTD
What is this series' equivalent of NANOMACHINES?
>>344157212
MIND HACKS
>>344156974
>>344156410
>>344156094
Explain what 4th dimension is without using wordComplex
>>344157212
You're seriously asking that? There must be someCOMPLEX MOTVESbehind thisMIND HACKof a question
>>344157256
it'scomplex
>>344157256
it's complicated.
>>344156643
I swear the 3ds was created just for that
>>344157256
It's one hell of aMIND HACK
>>344157393
You mean the DS
Oh god, I made it.
Listen, I am from the nearfuture, exactly 2026.
Hiro decided to sell 4chan to Facebook creating the biggest mistake in the history of mankind.
Please save humanity.
>>344157256
It's convoluted
>>344157507
>10 Years
Yeah that's fine
So, aside from too much Bluebird's Lamentation and not enough Chill and Rigor, we can admit that ZTD has the best soundtrack right.
>Perfect remixes of previous God-Tier tracks
.>Punished Junpei's theme
>Trash Disposal
>Interminable Dilemma
>This gem of a decision tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlVT234OA0o
Pretty much perfect right?
>>344156580
What are you on about? She couldn't solve it
I cant find a good screenshot of diana trying to lick the alcohol
>>344153756
ZTD had great characters but you never got to see them interact
It was really sad, the teams should have been shuffled like halfway through. I wanted to see more of Boss Phi and her interactions with edgelord Junpei and Mira/Eric but they just stuck her with Sigma the whole game which was just them picking up right where VLR left off
Precurex Zero Escape
The game was handled poorly.
The urgency of decision didn't weight in as much because you could SHIFT into other one right after.
They should've locked you into decisions for the first playthrough.
>>344151625
>Phi
>Lots but I'm partial to VLR credits
>Delta twist was pretty good desu senpai that or 2074
>>344157831
The decisions were shit to begin with
It was either, Game over instantly or Progress with the story
>>344157831
>completely missing the point of the game
>>344152739
I tried to do a mix of both as you suggested.Why do I lose my time on this shit instead of doing something productive?
>>344157789
I want a webm of Gab eating from the dropped can. That animation was fucking hilarious.
>>344157948
there should be a Delta version of that picture
>>344157212
Aliens
>>344157695
Blue Bird Lamentation sounded really fucked up in this version too, in the climax right there's like a harpischord or MIDI piano kind of low in the mix and it's really out of place and ruined the song for me
Why is Junpei so gay in ZTD?
Y-you guys got any more of those D-Team e-epilogues?
>>344158149
for carlos, obviously
Screw you guys I enjoyed blue birds lamentation every time it played
>>344158149
Carlos is literally perfect though, I understand Junpei.
>>344157974
Well, that's definitely worth a saveafter I switch the 999 and ZTD Akane places. And who really cares about productivity. It's 12:42 in the morning where I am, and I don't care
>>344158095
Yeah. It was kinda disappointing.
>>344158298
I would agree with you if ZTD version wasn't shit
>>344157974
All the fucky animations in this game were so ridiculous
Like I couldn't take any scene with Diana seriously because every one of her faces is so stupid looking it was great
That chart needs shuffled around tho ZTD Akane does nothing but murder you whenever something happens to Jumpy and drone on about Back To The Future for half an hour
Lick or don't lick?
>Q Team epilogue
>Eric literally forgives Mira instead of being upset or even breaking up with her for MURDERING HIS GODDAMN MOTHER AND PLANNING TO KILL HIM
>Mira, after killing like seventeen people, suddenly becomes nice and decides to go turn herself in
>Q then proceeds to headbutt her out of jail so they can go stop her murders
Okay I liked Mira but what the fuck was this epilogue
I wanted to see Eric reject her and finally fucking grow some balls and learn to live for himself instead of for a person who clearly doesn't respect him and wouldn't even if she wasn't planning to rip his heart out
>>344158298
It was still good, just a bit overused as far as I'm concerned
>>344158353
>>344158514
you know, now that I think about it, I honestly have no idea as to why she isn't one tier below. No way I liked her as much as Luna andTHE MIND HACKER
>be trapped in a shelter for all your life
>have couple months left with food/drinks
>hmm lets have babbies and make them suffer too
Literally retarded. This is what niggers do in africa for fuck sake.
>>344158791
I think the twist should have been Eric is Zero and the Decision game is revenge against Mira for being the snail that fucked over so many of these character's lives.
>kodaka said over and over again that as a friend of Uchi he knew the ending and it was so out of this world
>full on expected BlickWinkel to come and create a new universe or some other Eva shit
>the ending is just the faggots shifting to a timeline where they didnt have to play the game and then an old guy """""explaining""""" some shit
Was Uchi forced to cut the ending cause of budget ?
>>344158824
Yeah. She's good. But not that good. Although I may be biased as far as June goes.She's my forever girl.I'd be down with her kidnapping me, faking a bomb implant, forcing me to solve random puzzles in order to save the 9 year old version of her.
>>344159052
I like to think he was definitely forced to cut a lot of things. Like, not even a final puzzle room for the true ending route? Come the fuck on nigger.
>>344159063
she's not higher in my list simply because I consider the character we interact with during 999, and as far as that goes she's not anything special. If I were to consider her being Zero she would rank up quite a bit.
>>344159052
I think he's just easily impressed, and he wanted to shill his friend's game.
>>344159221
Yeah. Fair enough. Before the twist she is pretty passive and not very atypical
>>344152153
Wait, when did Mira and Eric get transported?
>>344154420
I liked his confession though. The lines were really good to me.
>>344159342
Epilogue
Sean: " I know where the transporter is", proceeds to break Mira out
I think it's assumed Eric goes with them
>>344159394
that's why I'm mad he was mishandled so badly. He took it like a champ, no bullshit, no hysterical breakdown or anything. He's the hero 2-3 needed.
>no the choice is made meme template
Take this visual novel cancer to /vg/ where it belongs.
Some of you guys are cool. Don't shift into the Mars Test Complex tomorrow.Night /zeg/. Catch you in the morning
>>344159480
The case definitely did not live up to the tragedy of the event and confession.
>>344159532
What kind of person do you actually have to be to come into a random thread and just fuck shit up because it doesn't fit your notion of what something should be?Probably just a regular 4chan user, I guess
So how long after Mira gets out of jail do you think she'll start murdering people again and have Chris dispose of the bodies in a lake?
>>344159532
He's got a point guys, we're bumping off the 6th Overwatch thread, we can't continue this
>>344152142
>no Uchikoshi in the portrait
Really?
>>344153947
The third cases of both DanganRonpa games are considered the worst in that series.
What is it about Case 3?
I've finished this game three times by now, I was actually wondering if maybe anyone of you knewof a fun playthrough to watch on Youtube or Twitch. I want to see someone's reactions to it, but I don't know anyone who isn't an obnoxious fag
>>344159796
NicoB is tolerable
>>344159532
It's a puzzle/adventure game and a lot better than shit like the "cinematic experiences" people play on PS4 nowadays.
What if the terrorist is Chris?
>>344159668
a hundred thousand hours in paint.
>>344157256
In a layman's terms, the fourth dimension is that of spatial relativity to the notion of time, or space-time.
The flow of time itself has been verified to be able to be minutely altered already, through single-byte information and lasers and stuff, which is neat.
All prior three dimensions interact with one another in some way, and the fourth dimension is no different. Atrophy, entropy, degradation, yada yada.
Tectonic plates shifting, the rotation of our planet around the sun, the tidal waves and the coming and going of seasons are all based off of space and time affecting our planet.
A popular concept of a breach in the fourth dimension is that of travelling through time, however the most fundamental part of that is to also travel an equal distance through space, lest you end up in outer space as opposed to in your chair because of how the planet moves through the universe.
So, let's say you can move through space and time, and you end up in another era.
It's still the same three-dimensional area you know as earth, but wildly different.
Without something external affecting it, you would have the exact same earth, stagnant and unchanging, frozen like a framed photograph.
At that point, you would technically become a being belonging to that of a fourth dimension compared to the earth that is stagnant and unaltering, aside from your influence upon it.
It's a bit of a simple and half-hearted explanation, but the concept shouldn't be toocomplexto grasp.
How long did it take everyone to realizethere was a fourth member of Q-Team?
>>344160097
i honestly didnt realise it until the reveal
I kinda knew something was up though, in that scene where Eric is holding you up with a shotgun and asks who killed Mira. I answered Sean (cos I got the ending for him already) and he said 'I KNEW IT WAS YOU'
>>344159796
A guy namedblick-winkelon hitbox is planning on streaming ZTD friday to sunday for us, he'd previously run through 999 and VLR as well in the wake of ZTD's release date.
>>344160097
Literally the reveal in Q2 end.
>>344160097
I did notice the shadows, but I dismissed them as 3DS graphics errors. It was when I say extra blood or smoke or heard another gunshot that I became suspicious.And knowing a character named Delta appeared somewhere I put the pieces together
>>344160097
when he stood up, cause i'm a maximum retardI knew Delta was zero right after the baby ending though, I just thought he was lurking around or maybe mind hacking/controlling someone in the game, like dumbass Eric
Why is the Mischievousness soundtrack so based
https://youtu.be/X-ZyHcR2mPQ
and why isn't this track in the album that comes with the steam purchase, damnit chunsoft
Why the hell they placed epilogues in the files instead of doing these scenes in the actual true ending? Even if it was stactic pictures like VNs.Who's the Other Phi? Why there are files for CQD-2 Ending of all characters minus the Team D?
Were there any hints or foreshadowing at all in VLR aboutPhi being Sigma's daughter?
Reminder that Delta did nothing wrong
>>344160097There was a moment where I assumed one of the Mexican Standoff options was to shoot Q. I tried Delta after the twin ending, expecting that to be his name possibly.
Then the kid spins around and blasts the player in the face, Eric calls the kid Sean, and then Delta speaks.
Makes me wonder why the trio didn't just shoot him when the option presented itself. A little disappointed that it didn't go meta with its trippiness though
>>344160752
damn brat aimed at Mira
>>344160752Wait, people could see Delta in the Team Q? I was thinking he was using somekind of camouflage.
I like to watch this webm while listening to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy8tcJbtCxQ
>>344160987
>camouflage
He was literally pretending to be retarded while evading all the cameras like a champ.
>>344160987everyone knew about Delta/Q. Only Team Q knew about Sean
>>344159447
>>344159342
>>344152153
>>344152046
You guys are fucking retarded.
The transporter only creates a copy in a single timeline, but Delta and Phi were sent to 1908 so fucking obviously they are in all the timelines we have seen since none of them diverged earlier than at the time of 999.
Why was Zero 3 a rabbit?
>>344161591
Because Akane is retarded.
>>344161591
So that that the real Zero the third doesnt find out he is zero
>>344161132
He was invisible in the cameras, he didn't need to avoid them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpObv60u1gc best track
>>344161915
>invisible to cameras
>but not his shadow, no sir
Nah.
Porn when?
Akane gets my jollies going.
Pretty stoked for my boy, Junpei.
>>344161659
>>344161725
but why a rabbit? I don't remember if it was explained in VLR or not
>>344162236
Because rabbits are associated with the moon in Japan.
>>344162236
It's symbolic of the rabbits from her childhood as well as the moon n' shiet.
>>344162236
I thought it was because Akane likes rabbits
>>344162236
Akane got a rrabbit killed as a kid.
>>344162236
Akane loves Rabbits
Jumpy and Akane became friends while tending to Rabbits
>>344156643
How does that work in the iOS version?
Speaking of which, didn't the iOS version have no puzzles? I hope the upcoming ports for 999 put the puzzles back in cause I really like them.
>>344162407
>>344162413
>>344162475
but Sigma created Lagomorph
>>344162669
Sigma made the AI, Akane had design.
>>344162669
Akane designed the furrybait.
Sigma the sexbot.
Delta the army of husbandos.
>>344152046
made a quick picture to explain
One of the more depressing aspects of the game is realizing that even thoughcopies of Phi and Delta were transported to 1908, the real versions of them AND Diana and Sigma still slowly starved to death.
>>344157256
A world where people see objects as a collection of 3-dimensional shapes, where 2 dimensional shapes give the impression that they are looking at 4-dimensional objects. To contrast, our world is where we objects as a collection of 2-dimensional shapes, where lines and edges give the impression we are looking at 3D objects
TWO CARLOS
The Biolab was really pretty funny when you think about it
>Hey guys you know that murder virus?
>The one that half the people in this goddamn gsme are here to stop from getting out? The one that literally wipes out 3/4 of humanity? Yeah it's here
>There's this other virus that you may or may not have and they counteract each other because LOGIC
>You'll be fine either way so whether you really CHOOSE to inject deadly murder virus or not doesnt make a difference lmao
>And then they fucking do it anyway
I know the whole thing was supposed to represent Zero's plan but jfc
>>344163995
You're talking about the Euclidean 4th dimension, he asked about time as a dimension. Which is, uh, time, but as a dimension.
>>344163886And don't forget Gab.
>When Sigma tells Gab that the biscuit he gave him was the last one.
;_;
Why was everyone so attached to gab? From the way they spoke about him I was expecting a twist concerning him
How does delta hanging around work? There are 10 contestants but he's never actually mentioned, everyone acts like he just doesn't exist
Okay, so what was the deal with the numbers on the Lounge anagramsprominent on the middle column? For the entire game I thought they were supposed to be put together by the whole team to escape (every anagram had different digits in different positions), but they're not brought up at all, was it cut content, a red herring or am I looking too much into this?
>>344164986
The worst part is that it's perfectly logical. Both choices are perfectly logical answers to a the problem.
>>344151625
>/vg/
>>344165635
because they lived on the mars facility with Gab and the others for a few days and dogs are cute and lovable
>>344165814
>he doesn't know how to hide threads
look at the new guy
>>344165635
Delta was introduced at Q at Dcom. He faked to be mute and deaf. It's Sean who's existence is a surprise to anyone.
Everytime Q is mentioned, they're talking about Delta, not Sean.
>>344165909
blind and deaf*
>>344165386
That fucking killed me because I knew what was coming
Saddest moment in the game desu
>>344165635
Yeah it was hilarious that when people died everyone was just kind of like "damn..........." but when Gab dies everyone lost their SHIT
Also the thing that got me about Sean was that he was in the prologue with the coin flip right? So how did nobody but Eric and Mira see him then? And did NOBODY think it was suspicious that Delta disappeared right as Zero showed up? And then at least Eric and Mira should have noticed that he came back to go through Q Team with them?
>>344165635
>everyone acts like he just doesn't exist
They talk about him and look at him all the time, we're only lead to believe Q is Sean based on camera angles
Still the way they start namedropping Sean CONSTANTLY after the Delta reveal is pretty grating and the game just being full of itself, "look how clever we are"
>>344166080
I think the funniest thing with Gab dying is that it's probably Delta who felt the worst about it. And after that he was pretty much just mocking and leading everyone on because of the decision he was forcing everyone to make.
>>344166080
>And did NOBODY think it was suspicious that Delta disappeared right as Zero showed up?
I like to think he just stood up and changed his clothes and nobody gave a shit
>>344164986
Fanatic Bio R =FaBRication
>>344165909
No I get that, but q team had 4 members (as far as mira Eric and Sean knew), right? I don't remember them ever properly referencing the deaf, blind, mute, wheelchair-ridden old man tagging along with them
>>344166483
>I don't remember them ever properly referencing the deaf, blind, mute, wheelchair-ridden old man tagging along with them
They do that exactly once and the game brings it up in a Reznov-style flashback in the reveal.
>>344162475
>loves rabbits
>nicknames best friend Jumpy
How do you guys feel about all the cutscenes instead of the usual "click the button with an arrow on it"?
>>344166483
What I don't get is that it's plausible up to the point of Sean having a bracelet
Like isn't he not really a participant in the game? So why would he have a bracelet? Did they not notice that everything indicated that there were three people but there was also a fourth person who seemed to be bound by the same rules they were but didn't show up on any of the screens like the one at the X-Door?
Also how was NOBODY ever suspicious of Q/Delta. Like he just looks so fucking shady and out of place from the start. Idc if you tell me he's a corpse in a goddamn wheelchair Weekend At Bernie's style if you put them all in a lineup at the beginning and ask me who Zero is I'm picking him every time
I wish DC Douglas would get more work. Wesker, Legion, and now Zero. Great performances all around.
>>344166801
I actually like manually advancing text on visual novels and would have preferred that, but the change didn't bother me too much once I got used to it
>>344166801
To be honest I don't really like voice acting in VNs since it fucks with my reading pace, I'd rather have bleep bloops. It was weird how switching to Japanese made all the awkward pauses bearable, since we're used to them in jap storytelling, English-language movies are generally much more tightly cut
And I just now realized why, in the ending where Mira cuts out Eric's heart, Mira says it's just like when she did it the first time.
so complex
>>344166597
Junpei brings it up at one point when Q dies, saying something along the lines of "He couldn't even see or hear it when..."
>>344166943
>Like isn't he not really a participant in the game? So why would he have a bracelet?
He was the tenth participant.
>Did they not notice that everything indicated that there were three people but there was also a fourth person who seemed to be bound by the same rules they were but didn't show up on any of the screens like the one at the X-Door?
This is literally why Eric was so fucking mental and constantly suspicious of the kid.
>>344155356
I was so mad at this until i realized I was stupid for not recognizing the non-ancillary purpose of a timer if he was just gonna shoot me anyway.
>>344155356
The game recognizes "donno" which is just fucking magical.
>>344166963
I wish Zero's voice filter from the early scenes could be dropped as an option after the reveal. I want to enjoy constant smugness.
>>344167181
What you're saying actually makes sense - Eric is a nervous wreck, while mira is a robot which probably justifies her reaction to Sean or lack thereof, but why didn't he suspect delta when mira was killed? If a kid wearing a snowglobe could choke his waifu the fuck out, who's to say the centuey old cripple isn't suspicious in that environment?
And how did delta even move around if he's deaf, blind and wheelchair-ridden?
>>344167110
It also explains Q teams anger when Q is made team leader.
>>344167618
>And how did delta even move around if he's deaf, blind and wheelchair-ridden?
Who told you that? The Dcom Operator.
And Dcom is privately owned by Free the Soul, which is led by Delta.
>>344166801
it was fine
the only issue that ZTD is that the animations are godawful and it really ruined my immersion sometimes when it's supposed to be a super serious scene but all the animations are goofy as fuck and the lip syncing is completely off
while i ended up getting used to it, i would've preferred VN style with such a low budget
Any speculation on what the Delta/Junpei/Akane "wear these black red robes and meet me at the cult rally to meet the true God" deal could be? Thought it was a cool thread of dialogue.
>>344156643
I'm not gonna say some bullshit like I guessed the twist before the game was over, but halfway through the game I started getting suspect of the fact that the image was the same on both screens, even though they could have put something like a toolbar down there. I just chalked it up to usual DS weirdness though and didn't realize what it meant until the end. So fucking satisfying. Also,Akane fucking having a fever whenever you start to go down a bad route because she's cooking in the furnace.
>>344167804
After the reveal it's obvious that he's fine, but how could he possibly move around during the decision game without immediately breaking his cover?
How close am I?
>>344168095
the screwdriver goes left, the blade where the screwdriver is and the cross where the blade is if I remember correctly
>>344168012
Narration changes from first person to third person pretty obviously
The two screens aren't needed but they sure add to the experience
>>344168095
On the right rack, reevaluate what could fit in that empty space.
>>344168263
it's not a screwdriver but well, whatever, the one on the right that occupies 8 squares
>>344152995
Man, when Phi said she was naturally a red head, I just assumed that was a silly nod at the Phi=Santa theorists
I wasn't prepared
>>344168263
>screwdriver
Do I buy Ace Attorney trilogy for the 3DS? I remember playing the first one and it was pretty cool, hated the third case iirc tho.
>>344167841
Yeah holy fuck like every time the camera zoomed in on Diana or Carlos I wanted to die their facial expressions were so bad
I hope this game gets a remaster someday it would immediately improve the quality 10x
>>344167962
I was also super disappointed this didn't happen especially since VLR ending implies Akane went after all.
>>344168095
hahahahahahahaha how the fuck is that puzzle real nigga like just use your brain hahaahaha
>>344168419
s-sorry anon-kun I corrected myself
>>344168420
Why not?
>>344166943
>if you tell me he's a corpse in a goddamn wheelchair Weekend At Bernie's style if you put them all in a lineup at the beginning and ask me who Zero is I'm picking him every time
That's the point. To the player he's incredibly suspicious, to the characters he's not.
>>344168420
yeah, it's a good series
the third case is the obligatory filler case that most games have -- fourth and fifth case are MUCH better.
second game is mostly terrible but it's at least worth trudging through for the amazing final case
third game is overall quite solid. even the filler cases aren't too bad
>>344156643
How will they even pull that off in the voiced remake? Will the narrator be voiced? And what about on systems that don't have two screens?
VLR was my favorite all the way up until the clusterfuck ending desu
Luna's ending is still favorite in the series and all the spooky shit with the anagrams and tu fui ego eris really got to me even if they foreshadowed the Zero twist pretty hard
Plus AB Game was great and Alice gets 10x less shitty when you realize the whole point is one person always picks Ally, one person always picks Betray and one person is always the opposite of you
>>344168558
>>344168703
Is the 3DS trilogy version superior in every way to the DS games? As in, did they mess anything up?
>>344167841
>the only issue that ZTD is that the animations are godawful
It really surprised me since in 2016 it's no problem to do performance capture on a shoestring budget, you just need a well-lit room and two webcams with depth sensors
They didn't even put spline smoothing on the camera/character motions which is a rookie modder mistake
Anyone else get kind of annoyed at how Diana never seemed to close her mouth? I don't mean she talked too much, just every time they zoomed in on her face her mouth gaping open like a moron.
>>344168629
How is he not suspicious to the characters either though
They just take his disability at face value? They just take him leading Q Team at face value? They aren't even remotely suspicious of how he disappears right as Zero shows up?
I guess I liked pretty much everything but the very end; it felt like it should have gone an hour longer after you SHIFT as a group.
There's no excuse for not having a final puzzle room, I kept waiting for that thinking I was going to find out even more about Delta. I just can't comprehend thinking the same people responsible for the first two games' awesome endings thought "Six billion or eight billion?" was a big enough climax to end on.
Also Phi was criminally underused especially after the reveal, like what the hell they could have done so much more there.
>>344168868
Not that I know of. I think it doesn't use sprites anymore. Take that as you will, I love sprites so that's a downside to me, but it's still worth buying because the game themselves are awesome
>>344168805
Either the narrator won't be voiced or they will be after the reveal.
>>344167841
>the lip syncing is completely off
There's no prepared lip syncing though, it's just "if audio above threshold, play mouth-moving animation". Screams look fucking hilarious.
>>344168967
>>344168967
Phi was much better in VLR overall and her banter with younger Sigma was funnier. I feel like she didn't really contribute much at all in ZTD
>>344168831
Even though VLR was way less tense than 999, the slower pace made it almost as spooky for me, if not spookier. Bad ending scenes are 10 times more powerful when you're not expecting them at every corner like in ZTD. For example, the part where you found almost everyone dead in the infirmary, or when you see Kyle in Q's armor in one ending. Those were some crazy moments that ZTD didn't match for me. And those weren't even the biggest reveals.
>>344169005
no, they still do use sprites -- they just 'touched them up' a bit (i.e. they drew over them and they look kinda worse).
the new games use models but they are actually amazing. i think they are actually much better than the old sprites.
>>344162232
literally never
there's like 10 porn pics of the whole series so far and it's mostly Clover
the first Akane pic I've ever seen was made a year ago and that was only after I repeatedly requested in the drawthread for 3 months straight
>>344169005
"Sprites" means any 2D assets. The 3DS trilogy doesn't use pixel-art traced images, but raw downsampled versions of the original drawings, like the smartphone version.
>>344168028
Maybe he was wheeled around by Sean, who was his designated helper.
Nothing is known about his day-to-day treatment in Dcom, either (who would take care of him, feed him, wheel him around, etc.).
>>344169178
DD models are awesome. Unfortunately I'm a sucker for sprites but there's no denying that they're done extremely well.
>>344166597
It was when Mira was talking about memephysics or whatever right?
>>344168940
Zero informs, at least at the start, that his messages are pre-recorded. At the very least, they only would need to be when Q-Team is awake, and Mira isn't running amok (I'm not sure if it was made clear that it was always the case that she was allowed to not be injected).
>>344152872
I kinda expected it since that moment where Diana says "So you don't know where your parents are?" or something and the shot pans over Sigma and Diana
Uchi loves that shit
>>344169131
Yeah the K ending made my jaw hit the fucking floor that was great. Sean not having a head wasn't even close esp since you already knew he was a robot
>>344166721
>tfw they never once called eachother Jumpy or Kanny in ZTD
>>344157393
That and that Hotel Dusk puzzle
It's pretty funny that they let you put in "Snake" as an answer when Eric asks you who zero is.
>>344169382
What about in the coinflip scene when they're all in the cages? Nobody noticed that he was gone there? Or that Sean had just appeared out of nowhere? Like apparently nobody saw him there because they never recognize him after that except for Eric and Mira
>>344169382
For the coin flip, he is physically there.
>>344169309
yeah i think they captured the animation style that people like about sprites while still making use of models
really good stuff. Guilty Gear's transformation from sprites to models was really good as well. i only wish i could say the same about KoF...
>>344169594
>>344169568
that is why Carlos seems to notice at the end that something is off and stutters 'you... you are' before collapsing to the ground. My assumption is since they couldn't see all of the inside of the other cells they simply assumed he was with the others, it's not like he was going to do much talk anyway
>>344169568
Carlos realized it.
Also, they are all in separate cells, so they could have assumed Q was in another cell.
What I don't get is te galsses, that should have beena give away.
This hole twist was just too poor.
>>344169418
Yeah my first thought when I saw the kid was "okay there's definitely no head under there"
>>344169763
>This hole twist was just too poor.
Not as poor as your spelling.
>>344169763
>can mindhack people to do things against their will
>can't do the same thing to make people see illusions or turn things invisible
You were a single logic step away from a sensible twist, Uchi.
Why was Qauark an Xpass and I thought we were going to find out who his parents were.
Why were their so many dangling plots points left by this game. Where the fuck is Kyle?
>>344169873
It's a twist with holes, so it's a hole twist.
>>344169389
>Seven saying "Zero could be watching us right now" with June looking directly at him
every time
>>344170158
Or a twist regarding a hole. Like, it was just a regular hole and Wonderland was a dream.
>>344170030
quark was junpei's x-pass and a hint the villain could mindhack into the future
kyle is either gab or a dropped plot point
>have several opportunities to beat the fuck out of eric and remove the shotgun off him
>have someone as big as muscular like sigma
>no one fucking does anything
I hate when people are so retarded.
>>344170030
one interpretation of VLR's final scene could mean that Kyle wasthe player
>>344170401
Let's see how tough you are when a gun is pointed at you.
>>344152229
Demise is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkTmE6zyW9Y
>>344168703
I like filler cases the most. They're just fun self-contained mysteries.The overarching plot always tries too hard IMO.
>>344170401
It's comic book storytelling which assumes every line of dialogue takeszero time, never works as well animated.
>>344170501
"Go ahead, shoot me. Don't worry, I won't die."
Sigma was an even more talented shifter, and did nothing to get the shotgun.
>>344170361
>mindhack into the future
He said he was oly aware of future timelines due to mindhacking people who were shifters. He does not mess with timelines directly.
Also:
What is the point of the transpoter when Akane could aleady transport her whole body? Fuck, he said Brother could too but Delta can't even shift.
>>344152131
Kyle
>>344170645
Investigations 2 had the best filler cases sinceevery part of them tied into the overarching plot, like when Person of Interest became good
>>344170765
It's a jokey exaggeration, I know how his complex ability works
and no, I have no idea where you got your last line from
>>344170501
There was fucking moments when the faggot had the gun down you retard.
I wonder if Sean 729 is a reference to User 927. Uchikoshi loves his 4AM Wikipedia sessions.
>>344170857
The VLR Q and A, says that brother and Akane can trasport their bodies through time.
>we're gonna shape the future with our own hands!
>now that's an idea I can get behind, Carlos
>the future is doomed? Screw that!
>you're right! Nothing has been determined yet
>>344171152
citation needed
>>344169298
Sean isn't designated as his helper in the game, nor did anyone know who Sean was prior to the decision game in the bunker, so most likely they had to help him out during the five days in D-Com.What a snarky shitbag, getting spoonfed and taken care of for five days by merely pretending.
What the fuck.
Spoilers on pic
Sigma and Phi didn't really use any of their extraneous knowledge in Dcom which makes me question old Akane's plan a little, it wouldn't make much difference if it was just two random schmuck shifters that could only jump under pressure
>>344171387
get the fuck out
>>344171387
>color-coded gender
REEEE
Well?
When the fuck was all of this explained?
>>344171387
>those babies models
I couldn't help but laugh and feel ashamed at the same time.
>>344171529
It's a known fact that using a pink blanket on a boy makes him gay
Be careful
>>344171387
also that's a MASSIVE shoe size difference
>>344171736
If your dick size is half your foot size, sigma must be rocking size 36s
>>344171646
I still think the transition to Telltale knockoff made them cut a lot of content. That or Uchikoshi can't keep track of all the bullshit he comes up with.
Why the fuck did Brother want to save the world if he was an old, cynical asshole who only saw the worst in humanity? Did Uchi bullshit us in VLR?
>>344171646
>strange ceremonies
it's called a BBQ
>>344171940
"Fuck you guys. Here's how you can all survive."
>>344171940
yes he did.
Anyone else feel bad for Delta when Sigma and Diana put him in the pod that they fucked in?
>>344171940
retconned.
Brother in VLR had a god complex and wiped almost all humanity to achieve his new world order goals.
>>344169279
>mostly clover
all I can find is shit of that fucking rabbit.
It'd be funny if I wasn't so goddamn mad
>>344171156
That and pulling shifter resonance out of your ass to justify non-shifters escaping to the golden ending
What happened to stakes and sacrifices
>>344172351
>delta hates sigma because his cradle was full of his cum stains
>>344171882
The latter. Zero Escape has not made sense since 999.
>>344172351
They put Phi in that pod.
Delta and Phi were some dreamcast lookin babies.
>>344172351
The smell should be gone after nine months even without cleaning
Uh, not that I'd know
>>344152194
I played all games but.. why do you need to play different routes in 999 (story wise)?
>>344171387
I've lost control of my life.
>>344170941
729 is just 9*9*9.
>>344172612
If you are going to meme at least meme properly
I liked Alice.
>>344172662You can't get the true end without getting the safe end. If you don't do that first, you'll get stuck at Coffin.
>>344172534
Anyone got a screencap or something? Could've sworn it was Delta but I'm probably just misremembering.
>>344172872
Don't worry, that just means you are a horrible human being anon. There's no shame in that.
>>344170941
What's User 927?
>>344172428
You could sorta excuse that as the official story since the reason they infiltrated Dcom was because no one knew what exactly happened during the experiment, so they couldn't actually know Brother's goals
I'm still bummed that Brother didn't turn out to be Phi, Uchi hinted at that heavily (the Eye of Horus)
>>344173023
Well shit. Poor Phi.
>>344171287
I need drawfags of everyone pampering Delta during Dcom while he hides his cheekiness.
>>344172872
They never explained how Alice could do massive prime factorizations in her head. Was she a quantum computer or some shit? She could break today's encryption like nothing.
>>344173026
The creepiest profile of the AOL database leak in 2006, could be a fetishist, murderer or both. There was an off-Broadway play made about him.
>>344173153
It explains her daddy issues and interest in what's in his pants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHsHJn7lH3g
>the part at 1:30
>>344173269
She was just a human calculator.
More believable than time traveling espers.
>>344173269
That's your regular Japanese storytelling hyperbole. If someone can do a thing, they're a child prodigy and can demonstrate their skill with absolutely ridiculous feats.
>>344173269
why not?
there are people who can do 5 digit multiplications in a matter of seconds
>>344152194
I know that, I just thought there was a significance in needing to play multiple routes to the story as he worded it after the Akane bit.
>>344170450
Isn't it "?" that's supposed to represent the player?
>>344173298
God bless it.
>>344173637
Factorization is a different beast, it's hard if you're not a tool-assisted organic brain
http://phys.org/news/2014-11-largest-factored-quantum-device.html
>>344173637
>solving intractable problems instantly
>why not?
>my motives are very complex so I did X and Y
>well what about Z?
>my motives are complex
I am upset we never got to see if Akane went to that FTS ritual shit to find out about the "true god" of the world
>phi is a copy of a copy of the daughter of alternate versions of her parents
>>344173750
Yup, it was Blick Winkel, and apparently both him and Kyle went to Dcom to observe the unfolding events. Maybe one was the camera and the other was Gab.
One thing I've wondered about was the "188 pounds" message in the incinerator. I just assumed it referred to Phi's weight, but she seemed more confused about the message than reactionary towards it.
>>344152467
Kyle and "?" was what I was most hyped for.
>>344174297
it'smoney
>>344173839
I need more.
The lack of an epilogue has me biting for anything.
>>344174532
It's Sigma's weight, and it refers to how he needs to sit in the death seat.
>>344174532
>Phi's weight
>188 pounds
Are you for real?
>>344174532
Sigma was asked his weight shortly after finding that. How did you miss it?
>>344174908
It was referring to Sigma
>>344174532
more like 18 pounds without clothes
>>344174720
>>344174802
Out of all the things in the game, Sigma being only 188 pounds would require a massive amount of suspension of disbelief.
>>344174908
Figured it would have been a puzzle piece within the incinerator itself, not outside.
>>344174941
I missed it.
>>344174908
He could be an Eurofag, I can't be arsed to convert properly so I just divide by two and assume it's 94 kg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
if you check the status page after the twins are born, Q and Phi are shown as alive
Clearly, Phi weights 188 pounds because of her massive breasts.
>>344174908
D-Cups
>>344175136
Turn "Skip Text" off, pressing it often skips more than one message at a time. AFAIK it doesn't apply to puzzle rooms though so no idea how you missed that
So im kind of stuck.Just sent Phi and Delta back in time, then came back to the present and opened the Force Quit Box for D team.
Then tried the Q team force quit box using the code for his helmet and it didn't work.
And i have no info on what would the C team Force Quit Box password would be.
Carlos shifted around and was going to find out who the fuck was Q and have no idea where he is now
I also wrote Delta everytime someone was asking for a murderer and i got an arrow to the face and latin words came out and i was extremely confused and also got a message saying "He is not here" and i was confused too.
At this point i can sort of less guess whats happening but i cant really advance in the story when the Global Flowchart shows no new fragments to jump into.
Is there something am i missing?
I've seen all the executions too, but no idea what im supposed to be looking for right now.
>>344175526
>Snake is Sigma's dick
oooooohhhh
>>344175538
Never had it on the whole game. Suppose I need to redo the puzzle room to see for myself.
>>344175606
do you not remember the door of truth password is the twin's birthday?
>>344175606
Go to every fragment before a (?) and see if you can input something.
>>344155891
>Funyarinpa Another Episode: Ultra Escape Boys
>>344156643During the flashback with Junpei getting captured, the line "Huh, that's weird. Did I leave that open?" is on the narration and isn't in quotes. Akane is referring to how she forgot to close it in the future when she was capturing Junpei
>>344175774
>>344175736
Oh yeah, i was expecting the Birthday number to stand out a bit more when it was shown. Good going im on track again, thanks.
Some of you guys are alright, don't go to the Mars test site tomorrow
>>344152484
999 made me bawl my eyes out
ZTD and VLR not so much
VLR got me with Luna's "death" but nothing in ZTD got me whimpering really besides making all the D team incineration/revolver death happen back to back so I could unlock all executions, I had to stop playing for a bit after that
Is Delta even fucking human anymore?
What the fuck is up with his eyes? Are the prosthetics?
>>344177019
This will be revealed in the 4th game. Please look forward to it!
I don't like the decisions games besides the first one. It's literally either some stupid thing about luck or you ust gotta die.
The number doors and the AB games were much better game mechanics.
>>344168095
Oh wow, the 3DS arbitrarily splits the puzzle between both screens with a need to constantly swap the contents of them.
And people unironically prefer it.
>>344177019
MIND HAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>>344176919
Doing the acid bath 3 times in a row is what took the most out of me.
Everyone shifting out of the Force Quit bomb timeline would've been the perfect spot for a final puzzle room.
>a vast expanse a la the sky background in the Healing Room
>everyone asking each other what's going on
>Kyle's voice infodumps that they entered [?]'s perspective of the Morphogenetic Field when they decided to help non-shifters escape their designated timeline
>a mix of interlinked puzzles from every other room leading to a final exit
>Kyle is about to say goodbye to Sigma since [?] is about to return him to his body in the post-VLR timeline
>Instead, Sigma drags him along to the exit, and Coin Toss Sigma is occupied by two minds: Force Quit Sigma and Kyle
You know what people,
We've been wondering what the point was of that button that just make the entire facility explode.
In retrospect, pressing the button is the correct choice.
If you don't, whole D team gets murdered by Mira and she's the only one to escape after going on a killing spree. Sean & Delta remain in the bunker.
If you press the button you prevent the release of a dangerous serial killer.
>>344177495
It was the same scene recycled and I was reaching dead ends at that point. I was getting all the bad ends with the shower and because the scene was the same every time I would just do it, set my 3DS down and come back to it after the scene was over because I couldn't skip. Those just felt tedious to me.
>>344177672
Were Junpei's AB game lines similar to the ones in VLR?
>>344177958
The dialogue is different each time.
>>344177672
Delta is a fucking asshole.
No, seriously. That's the twist. Delta is just a huge douchebag with a fucked up sense of humor.
>>344176919
Tenmyouji's reveal and his interactions with Akane got me the most in VLR
999 had me in tears but ZTD only made me feel emotional about Sigma and Phi
>>344178657
Only slightly, the jist is "I can't remember anything, *look around*, oh hey what's that sound from the shower *stares at shower head*, *various screaming sounds*"
>>344179446
And you literally couldn't sit through that? This fucking generation
>>344177658
Yeah the whole thing felt very unfinished desu
I guess it wasn't bad and *technically* it worked but there was too much that got left open or brushed away and the ending just felt like a cap off to the game, it didn't really have the sense of Sigma and Akane's decades-long plan finally reaching its climax or anything
>>344178836
>he didn't cry at Force Quit: D
Shit was heartwarming
>>344179816
Yep D was the only sympathetic group in this game.
It was a shame too
>>344179816
I was more confused the first time and it kind of ruined my experience.
I hadn't unlocked much of their story yet (only got the Q crossbow ending) so i was just confused since it had no build up and was completely vague to me.
>>344160042
>posts picture from Remember11, where the entity is literally 0-dimensional
Also
>to also travel an equal distance through space, lest you end up in outer space as opposed to in your chair because of how the planet moves through the universe.
There's no universal frame of reference. You can't just "travel". You only "travel in respect to something else".
>>344179816
It's hard to take that shit seriously because of how bad all the models/animations are.
The Twins ending when he tells Gab "that was the last one" fucking got me though because I knew what was going to happen after
>>344180104
How did you open the Force Quit D box without knowing about the music bird?
>>344180415
Anyone who's played VLR knows about it already.
>>344180104
>I only have the Q crossbow ending
Dont you need to reboot the quantum computer to get to this part of the story
>>344180415
It's really, really easy to guess if you've played VLR since the Blue Bird is such a huge motif over the two games
I'm more confused as to why he knew about the brooch and also why he would skip to literally the second to last fragment in the game after getting one ending
>>344156331
B E S T B O Y
I have but one complaint about my going through of 999.
Someone please tell me how the axe ending even works? I understand that clover getting an axe was foreshadowed but how she uses the axe makes no goddamn sense.
How the hell does one girl with an axe overpower a group of 3? Especially if one of them is seven?
>>344180552
You're not given any kind of order for the fragments. You can easily get one of the "last" ones early.
>>344171287
>What a snarky shitbag, getting spoonfed and taken care of for five days by merely pretending.
>yfw Delta actually enjoyed being taken care of by Diana (who is the most likely to do it, since she's a nurse) for five days.
>>344160741
School swimsuit that was lost in translation maybe? And all the latin stuff.
>>344180518 nope
>>344180552 I didn't know it was that since it doesn't tell you, i just thought it was another story fragment
>>344180370
The travel of time-space is always anchored in both seriesthe quantum computer superposition lockingandthe input/output ayy lmao pods
>>344180620
She probably backstabs Seven first
Then goes ham on the next
>>344179816
>Sigma's hands
How the fuck could anyone cry at this shit.
The cinematics mostly looked like dogshit
18 INCHES
.../v/, whatever happened to Diana? No one says she's great besides a specific cult of waifufags, there's barely any new content about her and one of the few new memes about her, "USED GOODS", is entirely derogatory. She used to be so much more popular than Carlos, especially in terms of fanart.I never liked her. This is just interesting to me especially when I've seen Carlos being said to be the kindest character of the trilogy next to Luna. I'm pretty sure that Uchi intended Diana to be in that spot, too, "her kindness is a sin" and all that.
So wait if Sean Mira and Eric make a timeline that stops Mira from killing anyone as the epilogue suggests.
Does this make a timeline that stops every game from happening?
what theoretically would happen to Phi and Delta?
>>344181880
I don't think anything would happen since Phi and Delta exist in the timelines where Sigma and Diana don't experience the horizontal tango. But I don't know.
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