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SQUARE does it again

>Retro aspects are also a positive, too - playing with headphones we certainly got drawn in by the MIDI music, and switching rooms or areas also triggers a delicious Bit-based sound effect.

MIDI. Not the orchestral soundtrack.
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OP being a faggot and not posting source.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/07/first_impressions_looking_back_with_dragon_quest_vii_fragments_of_the_forgotten_past

But it's unfortunately legit

WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING
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>>343872782
>fine here's your damn dragon quest games, fucking gaijins
>WHHAAAAAAT? YOU DON'T LIKE THE MUSIC??? NO MORE DQ FOR YOU FOREIGN PIGS.
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>>343873313
They do it on fucking purpose.
They actively do everything in their power to sabotage the series in the west. Why the fuck does Squeenix want to murder DQ in the west so hard?
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>>343873363
Because the Squire side fucking HATES the fact it's way more popular in Japan than Final Fantasy.
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Should have hacked your shit while you could.
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lmao suck it up gaijins
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>>343872782
Why does SE feel the need to troll western DQ fans so hard? Just why?
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>mfw I will have to undub THE MUSIC MUIC
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>>343872782
Does the Japanese version have orchestral soundtrack?
Didn't they do just the opposite with VIII's PS2 release?
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who cares
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>>343873726
PS2 release of DQ8 in the West was improved compared to Jap one. It had some new content, fully voiced dialogue, new interface and fully orchestral OST.
Japan only got those improvements in the 3DS port of DQ8.

But yeah, they are quite literally replacing the orchestral soundtrack from Japan's 3DS version to FUCKING MIDI CHIPTUNES for the Western 3DS version.

Cancerous fucks.

I fucking hate Squeenix.

>>343873512
>>343873651
Seriously fuck them so hard
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>>343873832
Fucking SE, I swear.
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>>343872782
Dragon Quest composer is well known for being quite nationalistic and xenophobic. He probably didn't want baka gaijins to enjoy his music.
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wtf

why are they doing this shit and where do we complain about it
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>>343874019
But we do enjoy his music, it's the same compositions, just instead of live instruments it's fucking chiptunes.
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>>343874065
They are doing it on purpose, alongside 0 advertising, to ensure DQ fails in the West.
They've been doing it since forever, they hate the concept of DQ becoming even remotely successful in the west because Squeenix hates the Enix portion of the company and their product (DQ).
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nintenyearolds think this is ok
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>>343874287
That fucking sucks.
Really does piss me off 2bh.
Does the iOS/Android version of DQ7 have orchestral music?
I think I might play that version instead
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>>343874551
Yes, it does.
But guess what, it's not coming to the west.
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>>343874679
>it's not coming to the west
holy fuck, so they are actively trying to kill the DQ hype in the west

I wonder how much nintendo paid them for the west 3DS deal
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>>343874551
You mean the 3DS port? because no, it's a remastered version of the PS1 version

http://www.woodus.com/den/music/mp3.php?desc=dq7andios

3DS version is the only one with the orchestrated soundtrack
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>>343873363
>They actively do everything in their power to sabotage the series in the west
I love you tinfoilers.

>>343873512
>Because the Squire side fucking HATES the fact it's way more popular in Japan than Final Fantasy.
You too, tinfoil man.
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>>343875360
>blatant fucking proof that Squeenix hates the series in the west
>NUH UH YOURE A TINFOIR MANNU
Get cancer and die
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>>343875135
>They're trying to kill DQ hype in west not releasing a mobile version
>This after the fact that people do nothing but whine about the rest of the ios ports claiming they're shit
Lmaoing @ u
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I don't remember hearing MIDI during the Treehouse stream.
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>>343875135
Yeah man that's why they've already announced Builders for PS4/vita coming west
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>>343875402
By your logic, SE fucking hated DQ in Japan because they gave baka gaijins the better version of DQ8 while not releasing it in Japan.

By your logic, SE fucking hated both KH and FF in the west because they never put out enhanced editions out in the west barring FFX International (EU only) before remasters came around.
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>>343875491
They're just tinfoilers. Even if they released all the games in west they'd still keep on whining about the localisation.
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>>343875476
https://youtu.be/MYjtx8xIsgY

Here
It's literally the ios/Android soundtrack
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>>343875491
they're cashing in on the autistic minecraft audience in the west
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>BLATANT FUCKING PROOF THAT THERE'S >>>LITERALLY<<< ZERO, NULL, FUCKING NOTHING FOR ADVERTISING
>BLATANT FUCKING PROOF THAT THE SOUNDTRACK WAS CHANGED

>HURR

>DURR

>TINFOIR BAKA GAIJIN PIGGU

GET

CANCER

AND

DIE

DIE

FUCKING

DIE

ALREADY
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>>343875682
fuck
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I will just undub it like I undubbed Megaten games.
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>>343875782
>Being this mad

There's fuckall advertising for many games in the west. Deal with the fact, kid.

>>343875745
Builders, beyond blocks, has fuckall to do with Minecraft.
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>>343872782
Based midi
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What the fuck?
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I don't understand.
Was the music in the japanese version different?
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>>343876492
JAPANESE VERSION HAS FULL ORCHESTRAL MUSIC RECORDED WITH LIVE INSTRUMENTS

FOR SOME INSANE REASON THEY DOWNGRADED OUR VERSION TO SNES CHIPTUNES
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6FicbIK0I

so we don't get this glorious shit?
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Japan nationalism wont let the west have a superior or even equal version of a DQ game ever again
Revenge for DQ8
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>>343875245
>port
>remaster
what the fuck
the 3ds version is a remake
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>>343876564
Funny enough Square doesn't seem to give a fuck about nationalism when it comes to Final Fantasy since World of Final Fantasy comes out in NA before it comes out in japan
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>>343876530
We don't.

We get LE EBIN SORETRO CHIPTUNES
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>>343876564
>Revenge for DQ8
Why did the west get the orchestrated version of DQ8, while JP did not anyways?
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At least we get it in the first place. Eventually someone will hack the orchestrated music back in, sadly DQM1, 2, and Joker 3 3DS are never happening. I wouldn't be shocked if 11 never came out stateside at this point
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>>343876530
Nope

We get this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6CkFsgAEwY

>>343876667
It came out over a year later so they had more time to work on it and decided to add features, like with Kingdom Hearts games.
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>>343872782
I like MIDI but come on. If you wanted to just bring over the ios soundtrack, just port the ios game.

I bet they'll do both
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>>343876530
this is fucking fantastic
is there really no hope for a non butchered DQ in the west?
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>>343876667
literally to make it more appealing to the west. Which worked.

English changes for DQ8 included:

>Fully orchestrated soundtrack (Japan uses MIDI)
>more fleshed out menus (Japan's are the classic plain black menus)
>Voice Acting (Japan has none)
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But they said the only reason we are getting 7 is because of all the fan demand

Maybe they had technical issues?
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>>343876764
Also Psych 100 on MC has him go super saiyan.
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What the fucking deal with localization companies? Why is it so hard to translate a fucking game for us? All we want is english text.
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>>343876725
>We get this shit
Ok.
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>>343876872
Just learn fucking Japanese then if you want your honorifics gobbling and epin jokes that only Japanese get.
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>>343876837
It's probably that or an licensing issue.
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WHY DOES SQUEENIX HATE DRAGON QUEST IN THE WEST

WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY SO HELLBENT ON DESTROYING IT

GOD

FUCKING

DAMNIT

I GUESS IT'S FUCKING WORKING CAUSE NOW I SURE AS FUCKING HELL AIN'T BUYING THE BUTCHERED VERSION
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So thats why it was delayed. I wonder if DQ83DS will get the same treatment.
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>>343876837
>technical issues
what the fuck are you even talking about
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>>343876979

Here your (you)
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>>343876872
Protect Ruby
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>>343875682
>Explaining what tsundere is
I will forever love that.

Also I like MIDI personally. I too am sadden we are not getting the orchestral soundtrack.
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>>343876525
It's entirely possible the guy who wrote this doesn't know the difference between a midi and a live orchestra. Not everyone is a musical connoisseur.
You're getting way too upset over nothing. Calm the fuck down. I mean, shit, there are no gameplay videos available for the english version. You're going to take the word of ONE PERSON? Be skeptical, for fuck sakes.

There's a guy in the /vr/ thread who insists the orchestrated music isn't fit for the games. Go get mad at him.
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>>343872782
Enix and Square seperate when?
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I still getting it. Hopefully it will spite them.
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Fucking non Asians entitled to our vidya. Fuck off..
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>>343876872
I'm genuinely curious about this sort of thing too
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>Filthy eops thread

oh im laffin
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>>343877070
>>343875682
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>>343876979
or orchestra music
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But I prefer bleeps to instruments
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>>343873363
It's literally the same shit Japan got you fuck
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>have to wait for the fucking soundtrack undub now

Now that's new
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>>343873108
>Having spoken to disaffected villagers in 'Ballymolloy', which we think is supposed to be Scottish but doesn't quite pull off the dialect
That is more annoying to me than the soundtrack. Fucking hell why do they keep forcing accents in Dragon Quest.
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>>343877163
>>343875682
Yes, because you can totally get a good impression of the game's music WHEN EVERYONE IS TALKING OVER IT
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>>343873832
Are you retarded? DQ8 had orchestral, not DQ7. The MIDI stuff is DQ7 just like in Japan.
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>>343877309
the 3DS version of VII in the japanese version gets an orchestral soundtrack
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>>343875782
There is no blatant proof of any of that. I saw advertisements for DQ7 at EBgames a whole week before E3.
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>>343872782
Compare:
https://youtu.be/VeInFdxmq3g?t=18
https://youtu.be/034-lzmBtyw
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>>343877034
I'm 100% correct though. The moment you ask for "just gib da english text" you might as well start learning fucking Japanese since no product is ever going to do that.

They're not going to leave honorifics unless they're dumb like Atlus USA, they're not going to leave Japanese jokes, they're not going to leave anything that the people who the product is being localised to wouldn't get.
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>>343876983
Yeah it's not like DQ8 only got orchestral OST for NA release first while Japan got MIDI or something.
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>>343877367
no it does not
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>>343877393
But he hasn't seen DQ7 on TV = no advertisement!
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I preferred the MIDI soundtrack of 8 to the orchestrated one.
Not that I prefer MIDI in general, but the kind of soundtrack Dragon Quest games have sounds way too pompous and exaggerated played by an orchestra.
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>>343877492
DQ8 IN THE WEST CAME OUT AFTER JAPAN
THAT'S WHY IT HAD FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS
IT'S NOT LIKE JAPAN GOT DOWNGRADED AFTER THE WESTERN VERSION YOU GOOK LOVING SHITFACED FUCK
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>>343877438

/v/ got blown the fuck out
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>>343877514
Boss battle theme in-game as fucking proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He1c9BQrZ3A

Original version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8uqhDo6NQs

it does
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>>343877438
WHY
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
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Wait a minute
How the fuck do we even know the Japanese version has orchestrated music to begin with? None of you fucks ever played it, I can guarantee that.
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>>343877438
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>>343872782
why the fuck are they doing this?
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>>343877438
i hate this

>>343877674
literally two posts above yours
>>343877596
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHZllU3b81Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWC3wYUVP-U

One good reason to use MIDI.
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>>343877674
You're on the internet right now, use your head
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>>343877674
Ignoring all the evidence in the thread, I was playing the other day. Someone did a menu translation ages ago.
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>>343877674
I actually have the Japanese version
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YES YES WE will give you rocarization we will indeed
HOWEVER
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>>343877596
How the fuck is that proof of anything when you didn't even post a link to the English DQ7 3DS gameplay to compare to? You are talking out of your ass.
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>>343872782
The west pays less for games.
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>>343877831
We got monkey pawed hard.
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>>343877841
Everyone writing articles is saying they're impressed by the retro feel of the MIDI soundtrack and shit.

the only real evidence is hard to hear honestly, because of everyone fucking talking
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I was actually going to buy this but SE fucked up super hard.
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>>343872782
>>343877438
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why this series even popular to begin with?
>boring kiddy story
>plain boring combat
>Dragon Balls art style
>meh musics

you should be playing superior JRPG
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>>343877572
You're not allowed to have such opinions here.
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>>343877923
>everyone
>one person

So you are talking out of your ass.
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>>343877948
You've fallen for the trap.
>no one supports our game in the US
>here you go, have these weird watered down things
>oh you don't want it anymore? We'll stop bothering then
Smooth as butter
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>>343878043
It's not popular in the west for the reasons you listed, it's only popular in Japan because they slurp up casual shit.
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>>343877948
>>343878115
Why do they hate western money?
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>>343878149
>westerners
>not slurpping up casual shit
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>watch the us trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeInFdxmq3g
>compare to japanese trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea4Tjie4ZiM

Its actually true fuck. Guess I am actualy going to have to waste my money importing now. Fucking jews.
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>>343878186

Japan is literally the fucking home of mobile shit you fuck.
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>>343878172
The DQ team is extremely xenophobic. They don't want filthy gaijin shekels.
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>>343878232
That's what undubs are for friend.
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>>343877912
Whoever has the paw, throw it into the trash for fuck's sake.
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>>343878235
And the west is home of call of duty
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>>343877438
Am I just retarded? It still sounds orchestral.
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>>343878232
>trailers
>proving anything

Nigger the main theme all sounds like fucking stock music at this point.
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>>343878318
You are.
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So does this mean 8's getting an MIDI too? That'd probably be kinda neat actually, since there isn't an MIDI yet.
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>>343878305
And CoD is still not as casual as literal phone shit so what is your point? Japan is objectively more casual than the west, why the fuck do you think the console industry is dying while the phone industry is growing there?
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Can we stop boogeymanning and realize that it was probably a licensing issue and se is too fucking jewish to give us the whole game we thought we were buying
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>>343878318
DQ kiddies just want something to complain about because they aren't even happy when they get DQ games.
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>>343878357
I must be. What a shame, though. I loved the symphonic DQ 8 stuff.

>>343878406
That's the opposite of not boogeymanning.
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>>343878406
how the hell could it be a licencing issue

serious question, doesn't SE own all of it
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the first like 4 dq games are borderline unplayable. what versions of them was i supposed to play?
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>>343878406
You mean Sugiyama is fucking everyone over.
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>>343878464
SNES or GBC versions of 1, 2 and 3.

DS version of IV.
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>>343878461
Probably contracted some famous orchestra in japan to do it. Hell, japanese cant even renegotiate va for english releases.
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>>343878464
There's a chart somewhere.
Basically, not the originals.
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>>343878525
>Hell, japanese cant even renegotiate va for english releases.
>Meanwhile, over at #FE...
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>>343878525
But if they commissioned an orchestra, doesn't that still mean that SE has a large share of the soundtrack? I don't get it.
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>>343878558
This, ignore when people say they can't use Japanese VAs because licencing
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You guys are some ungrateful pricks. Be happy that the game localized in the first place.
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>>343877289
Blame 8-4
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>>343878406
Can you really claim boogeyman when SE is trying to fool westerners with a game that only got localized through demand anyway? In the age of the internet, no less, where everyone knows what they should be getting.
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>>343878743
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>>343877289
I don't even care about accents if they're spoken but to hell if you're trying to make me READ a super thick cockney accent
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I'm fairly tone deaf so this doesn't affect me THAT much...but I'm perplexed. Wouldn't it take more effort to make them midi's than just leave the music orchestrated and untouched? Why take the extra effort to downgrade it and piss people off?
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>>343878743
I'll be grateful after they localize the other games
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>>343878743
It's always one guy who is trying to spread this meme that SE hates DQ and doesn't want it to succeed in the west.
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>>343878743
>be grateful they give you scraps with shit sprinkled on top
>EAT IT

No. They literally lost a customer in me and I will do everything in my power to spread around the news of this bullshit to make sure as few people as possible buy it, it's better not to get anything at all rather than get a butchered product.
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>>343879212
What scraps? You are getting the full DQ7, with new translation. You are whining because you are also getting music that was used in the classic game. Fuck off with your drama trying to blow minute shit out of proportion.
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>>343878615
>He thinks it isn't true
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>>343876492
orchestral music, as it should be
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>>343872782
Why is it with DQ that Squenix is NOA tier?
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>>343879354
I want to get the same music as Japan, not be treated as second class customer.
Eat shit and DIE DIE DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE.
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>>343879212
>Midi instead of orchestral which is literally subjective which is better
>THIS MEANS YOU'RE GETTING NOTHING BUT SHIT
epin.

At least as far as /v/'s DQ fans are concerned it's impossible to please you. They announce game Y's localisation? Instead whining about other games or saying that they're shit until they localise it as well. Then that gets announced for localisation? Whine more. Whine about every single bit of change while they're at it.
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>>343879462
I don't see memes and censorship up the ass m8

>>343879463
>Eat shit and DIE DIE DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE.
Are you ten?
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>>343879354
Why not use the classic translation if you were going to use the classic music then? :^)

Not saying it's butchered but the decision to add all this work confuse me. New script? Replacing the music? These are time consuming process and had a lot of time to localization.
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>>343879513
This is literally the truth
No matter what the DQ fanbase is never pleased.
Square announces the localization of Builders?
DQ fans are screaming about them not bringing over Monsters
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>>343872782
How big are the carts? the only thing I can imagine is that they needed to save space.
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>>343879513
>>343879668
>gimping the western release by replacing the original soundtrack with midi tunes
>"geez why are people unhappy about this???"
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>>343879668
Maybe they should just bring the good games instead of remakes, musou and Minecraft. Crazy concept, right?
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>>343879746
>gimping the western release by replacing the original soundtrack with midi tunes
It's down to an opinion which is better, it's not "gimping" it.
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>>343879746
>gimping
>something that is entirely subjective

Some people will enjoy the rustic, retro feel that it creates, other people want orchestral track. The odds are they're saving cart space, possibly because they're using cheaper carts because they expect it to sell less.
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>>343879827
You should be thankful for what you get
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THEY'LL LET US CHOOSE BETWEEN MIDI AND ORCHESTRAL, RIGHT

RIGHT?!
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>>343879746
>wanting to listen to the original soundtrack out of shitty 3ds speakers
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The merge was a mistake.
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Feels good to not be an EOP and importing instead
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>>343879670
>needed to save space
Japan has orchestral music.
3DS allows for up to 8GB carts.
Most games aren't even 2GB.
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>>343879827
There's only two games right now that could fall into that category: Joker 3 and Rocket Slime 3.

Oh and of course, Builders and Heroes would fit in but because you don't like them they shouldn't bring them.

Protip: Builders isn't Minecraft and Heroes is at best musou-lite, Heroes 2 being even less like a musou.
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>>343879902
>The merge was a mistake.
Had they not merged there probably would not have been a single DQ game in the west after VII. And if one came out in the west it would not have been released outside US and on top of that they'd have even less exposure than now.
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>>343879940
Yeah but I imagine bigger carts are more expensive and if they don't expect high sales then using a cheaper cart would keep costs down and then they save space by using MIDI files.
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>>343879842
>>343879854
>should we go with the original JP version's music which people have come to expect
>or instead replace it with MIDI music?

>>343879892
lol nope
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>>343879940
Normal 3ds carts are like 4 gigs you dumbfuck
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>>343880024
>defending them being cheap fucks
>defending shitting on the customer
How does it feel to be a consumerist bitch? Get cancer and die.

>>343880074
Incorrect. Basic 3DS cart is 2GB.
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>>343879902
>Enix merged with Squaresoft to save their asses after the retards made Spirits Within
>pays them back by sabotaging the shit out of DQ in the West to make sure FF is the only big RPG around
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>>343880056
>what people have come to expect

Let me translate that for you. "What -I- expect"

The person who wrote the review in the OP certainly didn't seem upset, if anything they seemed to actively enjoy it. Maybe they were trying to keep costs down, maybe they had some market research which suggested the MIDI music would go down better. We may never know.
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>>343880113
>How does it feel to be a consumerist bitch? Get cancer and die.

Feels good not owning any handheld
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>>343879897
>>speakers
>not using headphones
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>>343872782
>>343877438
It's a good thing that homebrew is a thing.
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>>343877572
The funny thing is 3Ds might have orchestration but since its such a piece of shit you won't have a lossless audio anyway. You're listening to compressed .ogg files through a mono speaker. Is that really better than midi
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>>343880165
Square should have just died with their shit movie.
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>>343880349
>mono speaker
3DS has stereo speakers.
Furthermore don't lump your shity XL speakers with original 3DS speakers.
Original 3DS has much better quality speakers that saw a considerable quality downgrade when they made the XL model.
Die you hambeast amerifat.
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>>343878149
Its because dq was the first jrpg
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So we can expect a rom that fixes this within 1 day of release right?
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>>343880420
That entire dialogue made no fucking sense.

There may have been some kind of japanese puns there that didn't translate at all maybe.
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>>343880424
If you're not listening through headphones than you're a piece of shit anyway. Doesn't stop the fact that its such a piece of shit it can't play lossless audio
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>>343880517
If someone can show me the original Japanese dialogue for that part I could translate them here for you guys.
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>>343880475
yup.

Someone patched in Bravely Second's original outfits in almost no time at all.
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I was gonna buy a physical copy but I just realized that I can get digital or just pirate it and have all the name fixes and eventually dialogue fixes
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>>343872782

Is that any different from the Nip version? I've played it already but I honestly can't remember, I don't really care what music is as long as it sounds good. I actually miss chiptunes and such.
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>>343879887
Companies have to please me, not the other way around.

>>343879954
>Protip: Builders isn't Minecraft and Heroes is at best musou-lite, Heroes 2 being even less like a musou.
Too bad I've played the games myself, smartass.
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>>343880858
Read the thread you shiteating mongrel.

>>343880889
This man gets it.
Companies are supposed to suck your dick, not the other way around.
If you suck corporate dick, then you're a consumerist bitch and should off yourself for ruining the world for the rest of us since you're enabling this kind of shit to begin with.
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>>343880858

Read into the thread a bit. I guess it is. Well that sucks. Not to be condescending, but I really feel sorry for DQ fans who can't into Nip. I just can't understand why S-E hates foreign DQ.
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>>343880889
>Too bad I've played the games myself, smartass.
Then you're a fucking retard because aside from blocks Builders has nothing in common with Minecraft.

And as far as Heroes go, if you actually think it's like a regular musou you haven't played it.

>>343880956
>Actually praising a person who whines about games HE doesn't like being localised and thinks his opinions is the objective fact
ebin
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>>343872782
SO. FUCKING. WHAT.
Music isn't what an RPG, RPG. Gameplay and story makes an RPG, RPG. You can mute the music and still have the same experience.
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>>343881005

hates foreign DQ fans*
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>>343881106
>>343881042
put in some effort at least
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>>343881042
Honestly a good soundtrack can make or break a JRPG for me, it's fine if you don't have that opinion though but dont act like yours is the one that matters.

It's a completely redundant change. It's like being handed a cheap polyester coat when you expected a nice fur coat for the cold.
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>>343878558
>>343878615

They probably thought it was worth it since #FE is too niche for normies anyways
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>>343878043

I like DQ and SMT, what now?
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Meh it's find. I just care more about the text than anything.
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>>343880675

I played the 3DS version last year. I don't recall her saying anything about being a slave girl. The localizers just rewrote things at times, like there's this one bit where Sharkeye jokes about making some guy a slave that wasn't in the Japanese version at all. Nothing even resembling, there wasn't a joke in the first place. I've only seen videos of the PSX version, but it looks like the farther into the game they got, they more they started making shit up (which is what usually happens).
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>>343881271
Contrary to popular belief, people like midi soundtracks.
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90s MIDI instruments > orchestra music
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I literally do not care.

Maybe its because I've never played a DQ game before and this will be my first. Like in the comparision someone posted in this thread of the Jap music and the localized music I don't notice a difference

this seems like something only a complete autist would care about
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Watch the iOS/Android version get the better soundtrack, the mobile versions have been just better versions of the NDS games every time.
We're fucked on DQ8 though most likely but we already got it on PS2 at least.
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>>343881106
>Consumerist

>implying people won't just pirate
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>implying midi isn't schway as drokk
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>>343877438
this literally sound the exact same
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>>343881592

Goddamn it, I'm curious now, but I just can not find it. Did she show up in the past or the present? All I can find are videos of people fighting the yellow cloud guy at her statue.
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>>343877719
>that trumpet in the orchestrated version
how is that not INSANELY better than MIDI

FUCK I had no idea about this and now my heart is broken after seeing this thread
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>>343877059
Give me the timecode. It#s a shame about the orchestrial, but I'm just glad I can play it desu
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>>343881878
>/v/ can't comprehend that others like Midi over Orchestral: The Post
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>>343882790
I did not write desu at the end of that sentence!
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>>343878524
>>343878464
I hate to say it but the phone version of DQ4 is the best version, despite having the worst control scheme. It has party conversations, which no localization of the game had had prior.
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>>343882790
>>343875682
Just listen to it for a minute. And I'm with you. Like to have the orchestral version but I just want to play the damn game. I was one of those that e-mailed both SE and Nintendo about it and to finally be able to buy is all I want.
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>>343883030
lurk for 2 years before posting you dumb summerfag
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>>343873363
BECAUSE FAK YOU FIRTHY GAIJIN

DAT WHY
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>>343882281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6If0OWa_V1s&t=12m56s
Here at 12m 56s
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>>343883269

It's the Japanese version of the scene I'm looking for. For whatever reason, I just can not find any videos of someone talking to her. Maybe it's because I haven't been sleeping well, but it's the most confusing thing right now.
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http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/06/dragon-quest-vii-producer-pushed-for-the-orchestral-score/

The saddest part of all this was that the producer was pushing for the orchestrated soundtrack. It meant a lot to him. Kind of like how the name "Doll" was important to the Xenoblade X guy.
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If only Kircheis was still alive this wouldn't happen
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>>343883580

Wait, I'm a dumbass. I was thinking you spoke to her right after going to the present after solving the wind valley's issues, but it was toward the end of the game.

She doesn't say the slave girl bit, just "This means I'll always be at your side now! Just kidding!"

Here, if anyone else who can into Nip wants to see it.

https://youtu.be/_KC5kE5Rquc?list=PL8NVjOUUv_U0XlJzuQ5UtnGWdBnY3foUA&t=252
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>>343881042

>You can mute the music and still have the same experience.

fuck you, have sex, hit the showers, and breathe air. Great OSTs can bail out otherwise forgettable games and make great games even more memorable. Just ask Xenoblade Chronicles (not X) or Bravely Default.
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>>343884576
Holy fuck that guy reading the text is annoying, but yeah, she says nothing about slaves
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>>343885025
>Great OSTs can bail out otherwise forgettable games
Preach it, brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYd4qdGnms
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>>343883836
>The maestro was able to extract the sounds of each and every instrument from the orchestra and perfectly adjust their sounds for the 3DS, to make a fully orchestrated OST something we’ll be enjoying in the near future.
>something we’ll be enjoying in the near future.
Y-yeah...
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>>343885087
What did she say if you don't mind paraphrasing.
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>>343883836

Doll was a dumb sounding name for mechs and only existed for a plot point. Not saying Skell was better but why called them either in the first place.
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>>343885265
what the other anon said, she'll always be right at their side when called
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Just suck it up you fucking nerds.
Can't hear the difference through the N3DS speakers anyway
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>>343885280
I liked Doll as a mildly creative name for a mech, god knows people try really hard to make their mechs be called something else while trying to remain super cool. Dolls at least manages to sound evocative without needing to be "cool." The mild plot point helps give it that extra bit of character.

It's not a deal breaker for me, but fuck. It used to feel like we'd come so far since the old days of early 90's Japanese videogames and anime with their pointless changes and "Americans need it all to be cool and edgy." Maybe that was all just an illusion.
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>>343877247
>It's literally the same shit Japan got you fuck

Japan has orchestrated bgm
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>>343884576
>>343885087
Sexual innuendo right there.
It's a lost in translation thing.
In here she said ご指名, meaning "pick me", which seem innocent enough.

There are many other more common ways to say "use me" or "choose me" but she used this instead.
That is because this particular phrase is frequently used in a sexual context. Tranditionally this is the term to use in a sexual massage parlor (yes, sort of red light stuff) when picking the girl you like.
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>>343885226
Holy shit. Why do they dump so much effort into this shit?
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>>343876667
Enix actually cared
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>>343885927
her whole character type is about sexual innuendo, but saying "I'll be your little slave" is no innuendo
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>>343886716
Her innuendos are gone in the newer English versions.
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Face it, Microsoft had it right. You guys were just too dumb to realize it and now are forced to eat shit from "gaijin" haters from Japan.
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>>343873108
>Fucking accents. Again
>midi ost
fuck it, not buying. I can't believe I was stupid enough to get hyped.
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>>343885821
Maybe then it's the idiot reviewer who does not know the difference between an orchestra and MIDI instruments. Does nobody think to question the deafness of the listener? I that's a more logical train of thought than 'they intentionally put in worse music'.
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>>343888003
This is the company that released FF7 on steam with worse midi than ps1 and released on DQ8 on phones with the JP midi soundtrack instead of the orchestrated US soundtrack

They do things that do not make sense, don't assume they will use logic when handling their properties, especially dragon quest. Because logically they would be localizing all of them instead of pouring all their money into FFXV marketing. Like they could spend 5% of the ffxv marketing budget and localize all the shit they've been leaving in Japan and make that money back
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So, how hard is it to take the Japanese version of this game, ant put in it all the English text? You still have the orchestral soundtrack, and I dunno if the jap version has any voiceacting.
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If XIV flops will SE finally die?
Fuck this shit, they knew that we basically begged to get this shit localized, yet they're actively trying to sabatoge it.
If they're gonna localize gimped versions with more fucking accents then they don't deserve my money.
Not to mention how they're intentionally releasing the gsme in a month filled to the brim with RPGs, to stabatoge sales so they can have an excuse to kill DQ in the west.
Take to their twitter guys, it's the only thing we have left.
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Nah, we really shouldn't just sit idly by and not do anything about this. We need to send a message that this is not fucking okay and that this is a shit move.

Like, really. This is so fucking disappointing. Why does shit like this have to happen? For fucking what purpose do they think it's even remotely okay to pull something like this?

A HUGE part of the reason I was hyped to play this game was to re experience the soundtrack as its intended, as all Dragon Quest games are intended to be Orchestral. I've already heard the fucking MIDI shit over and over again in my life.

This is not okay. I do not accept this type of bullshit for whatever reason. They should not be allowed to have the authority to make such a fucking backwards and retarded decision.

If they brought it over because of petitions then they will fucking listen to the same fans they are relying on to make money off this.

It is not too late. The game has not gone gold. It's still months away from doing that.

It is CRUCIAL that we speak up now or we will forever be fucked over.
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So where's the petition? I'll sign.
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>>343880019
That's a complete fucking lie, inside the booklet of VII it showed that DQIV on the PS1 was coming. Pre Merge Enix was extremely committed on bringing all the Dragon Quest titles.
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>>343889338
Enix NA was working on it, but they went out of business before it could happen. They were committed to the work though, wonder where those guys are now
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>>343888646
>I dunno if the jap version has any voiceacting.
Played it a long time ago but I don't remember there being any
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I just don't even care anymore. I'll just pirate the fixed version.
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>>343877438
>sounds literally the same
/v/ overreacting yet again
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So is midi orchestra a thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYjtx8xIsgY
Here's the E3 demo. At around 25 mins you can hear a little of the boss battle theme. Sounds the fucking same as >>343877596.

Its just /v/ overreacting again.
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>>343879463
Fuck off to Japan then.
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>>343879746
>gimping

So you are shitting on the original DQ7 now?
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>>343880165
Wow this is literally next level delusion and conspiricy theory. You are the only person that thinks that using MIDI music somehow means they are sabotaging the game when 99% of people who play it won't know the fucking difference or even care.


Can we round up all DQ fans and kill them please? They don't deserve anything.
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>>343888295
>This is the company that released FF7 on steam with worse midi than ps1
Uh no, they relaesed the original PC release that Eidos did and then they fixed the music a day later. And DQ8 already had MIDI soundtrack in Japan to begin with you fuck.

You are the most ungrateful cunt I've ever seen on /v/. You have no fucking clue how games are made, marketed or handled. You don't deserve DQ, you don't deserve anything.
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>>343891368
I think >>343873108 might have just heard sound effects like walking up stairs and other things as the whole thing being MIDI because DQ has always kept the same sound effect for those things in every version.
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I just realized something.

They're using the music from the Wii spinoff games like Monster Battle Road.
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>>343892076
You can hear snippets that are definitely not midi at various points of the video. Pretty sure the article author just doesn't understand what midi is
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