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>deletes all his csgo videos about csgo gambling websites
>claims he wasn't the owner of the website at the time he made the video/s

is it happening?
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>>343810882
>A graph that shows someone lost 20 subscribers
Thanks OP
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>>343810882
First for Valve is cancer
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>>343810882
old thread

>>343787774
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>>343810882

It'll only be happening if he actually gets taken to court for this.

Anything less than that, he practically gets away with it.
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Lets see how long it takes for the Valvedrone and corporate shills to get here
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>people WILL defend getting kids hooked on gambling, and a shitty, destructive business model because m-muh precious Valve dindu nuttin, they a good company
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>>343810882
Eh he is just grasping at straws now...Syndicate may be safe but this dude is going to jail.
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valve did nothing wrong. they're literally losing money every steam sale because they want to give us, the gamers, something back.
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>>343810882
i hope his ass rots in jail for encouraging the cancer that's been eating away at esports and competitive games in general
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>>343810882
yes
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>>343810882
His twitter got hacked a few minutes ago.
https://ourmine.org/news/2016/07/04/we-got-access-to-tmartn-accounts/
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>>343811094
i gave up on valve

what do i do first?
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>>343810882
I love how people still don't understand how internet operates even though they make their livelihood through it.

>if I delete it, it means it's gone for good
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>>343811241
>it wasn't me
>it was the hackers!
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this thread will probably be flooded with valvedrones because of the autistic CSGO fanbase.

muh skins
muh skins

never mind that over 90% are ugly as shit but

muh skiiiiiiins
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Literally nothing wrong.
It's all voluntary.
No need to participate if you don't want to.
Some people enjoy it despite the losses, who are you to decide.
Don't like it, don't participate in it.
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>>343811518

And some kids under 18 can gamble their money away without question or resistance by valve.
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>>343811518
>this is what ancap retards actually believe
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>>343811518
>Literally nothing wrong

Literally false
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Let me ask you all this:

How would you fix things?
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>>343811518
Its the matter of principle that Valve is trying to fucking scam its own userbase by supporting kikes and making obvious law bypasses

But hey, Valvedrones gonna Valvedrone
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>>343811660

If they have credit cards and fake their identity, Valve isn't held accountable.

Have less shitty parents, america.
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>>343811802
Make microtransactions illegal
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>>343811518
This has almost nothing to due with valve two popular youtubers were caught promoting/using a CS:GO gambling site without disclosing they in fact owned the company.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fU2QG-lV0
>ignore the first ten minutes where he cries about how he lost money and its all valve's fault.
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>>343811905
Yes they are
They're allowing a system in the game that is clearly fucking illegal, in an age where ESRB is clearly unenforced
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>>343811803
but valve doesn't support them?

CSGO doesn't notify me that I can gamble my shit away when I launch it.

And the steam market isn't gambling
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Alright guys, there's all this talk about this guy getting punish or going to jail, or going down.

But has anyone actually filed or is planning to file a case against him?
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>>343812024
there is something filed
but they filed it against Valve
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>>343812023
>valve doesn't support them

They voluntarily allow it. The sites couldnt function without valves permission
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>>343812023
>but valve doesn't support them?

They whitelist bots and sites that allow you to link your Steam account.

By not performing proper due diligence, Valve is negligent.
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>>343811995
trumptards everyone...
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What's the difference between that and Microtransaction games?
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>>343812184
no they don't
all they do is get more bots than they had previously, bots still get cool downs.
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>>343811995
ESRB holds exactly 0 legal power
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>>343812283
you cant make money off of most miscrotransactions.
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>>343812184
no they don't. Anyone can do that you know.

I know about 3 clan websites where they post gore and porn on their forums every day.

They have the steam login as well integrated into their forum.

And what about TF2 stuff? Outpost, Raffle, Scrap, etc?
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>>343812139

Well if its only Valve, then this Tmartin guy gets off scot free.
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>Stupid people lose money
>Assholes lose social status
Nature is working. Just lean back and enjoy the show.
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>>343812509
this was filed way before Tmartin was found as owned of website he is promoting.
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>>343811518
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>>343810882
Now I can understand tmartin and whatever else going to jail, judging by the h3h3 video I've seen they are doing some shady shit.
But does this really have to do Valve? I saw no evidence that they were directly supporting these sites, at worst it just seems like they were turning a blind eye, which is still wrong in its own right. But they don't seem to be affiliated.
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>>343810882
You didn't know who he was until the jewish youtube morality police (who coincidentally have deleted most of their shady and reprehensible videos since blowing up) told you about him. Literally kill yourself, faggot.
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>>343812765

Protip: No one is going to jail if no one files a case against them.

So stop talking like they automatically go to jail if their scam gets uncovered like this.
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Doesn't TF2 have a similar system?

You buy keys and other items hoping they go up in value and sell them
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>>343812872
>Literally kill yourself

It is illegal to tell someone or suggest to someone that they commit suicide.

You are literally breaking the law right now. Please stop.
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>>343812872
This again?

Who would've thought a popular youtuber would raise awareness on an issue.
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>>343813004
all the key and chest started with Dota2
but in all of the valve games you have 3 drops a week.
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>>343813060
No, it's not. The case your image is referencing has a girl literally telling her BF to get back into the car he was trying to suffocate himself in
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>>343813004
Yes
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>>343812872
who the fuck are these two and why are they all over the place recently
i watched some of their videos and it was just yelly reaction videos
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>>343812872

I find it really funny that people like H3H3 try to take the moral high ground when shitting on people like Keemstar for trying to start drama and being content police

But then proceed to try and police the internet by using their fanbase as a hammer to harass and threaten other smaller youtubers or content creators or whatever.

I could give less of a shit either way, but the fact that they do both makes it fucking dumb. I really don't understand how they have a fanbase from making wacky ironic humor videos and being jews.
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I honestly can't believe it's legal to make all these skin gambling sites and that Valve hasn't done something against it.

Not only have skins ruined the CS community but they managed to ruin steam too by getting scammed so much.
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>>343811123
I have a PS4 and a Wii U. I don't own a gaming PC. I've never had Steam installed on a single computer I've ever owned in my life.

You are paying for a CSGo skin when you buy that crate. You get a CSGo skin when you buy that crate. There is no middle ground here. If you're buying it to flip it, that's on you. Valve doesn't regulate the prices or the market for the skins. It's entirely player driven. If you're buying a randomized item to make money off of it, that is your fault. Valve is not selling the possibility of becoming rich off of a $2.50 bet, they are selling a skin. Anything beyond that isn't on valve.
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>>343813148
tf2 did it first you ape
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>>343812218
What did he mean by this..?
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>>343813217
They channeled their ancient forbidden Jew magic and were granted a mastery of YouTube shilling skill.

3 babies were killed in the process.
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>>343813060
No, it isn't. Kill yourself.
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>>343813245
reason being most of their fanbase are impressionable teenagers, i'd wager
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>>343813329
tf2 ahd random drop system and crafting system first, keys came from Doto
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>>343813245
H3H3 is the SJW version of MDE. Just watch MDE
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PLEASE LET THE LONG ARM OF THE LAW FINALLY REGULATE THIS MANIPULATE HORSESHIT, GET YOUR GAMBLING OUT OF MY GAMES.

MAKE VIDEO GAMES GREAT AGAIN.
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>>343813245
They moved to New York from California (before that, isreal) because Jontron followed them on twitter. He has since been leeching from JonTron and filthy franks fanbases. He has changed his content, attitude, and personality drastically to cater to the Jontron and FF reddit-based fanbases. That's why he blew up. He got exposure to them and instantly turned around to cater to them.
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>>343813543
>Just watch MDE

Looks like some emo trash to me.
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>>343812630
According to the source those stupid people are mostly 13 year olds, this doesn't justifies it
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>>343813895
Think you found the wrong channel, bud
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>>343813264
You are correct it is entirely player driven.
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>>343811995
>clearly fucking illegal
See the problem with this, is that you don't know the law. You don't know what you're talking about. You have no fucking idea.It's not illegal in the last. It's a simple microtransaction. The secondary market isn't on valve.
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>>343810882
did fox news make this graph?
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>>343813543

>h3h3
>SJW
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>>343810882

repost.
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>>343811518
are you just listing off every dismissive excuse in existence? check off those boxes
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>>343814252
This video is literally social justice. He's also just a rip off artist who plays it off as "A homage"
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>>343813245

>But then proceed to try and police the internet by using their fanbase as a hammer to harass and threaten other smaller youtubers or content creators or whatever.

Except the people they go after are youtube juggernauts with large followings. Most of them are morally-bankrupt douchebags too.
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>>343813535
No, TF2 crates were a thing before DotA2
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How would you feel if fallout 4 introduced crates?
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>>343814034
Then give me more than an acronym senpai, this is what came up
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>a mortgage broker can't order an appraisal for a house you're buying from a company they're affiliated with
>a doctor can't refer you to a hospital he owns
>a car dealership is required to refund you if your car is proven to be defective

Nearly every other industry has laws to protect consumers so why the fuck is the vidya industry is far behind?
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GUYS WATCH OUT I KNOW A CS GO BETTING WEBSITE WHICH IS TOTALLY COOL

>he owns the company and personally registered it

GOYIM, I DIDN'T KNOW I OWNED THE COMPANY I'M SO SORRY
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>>343814394
Not spoonfeeding your new ass.
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>>343814252
i don't care what side of the political spectrum he sits on, but i'm fucking tired of this reaction video cancer plaguing youtube
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>>343814272

>bot

I only play single player games on Steam. What the fuck is the bot?
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>>343814252
he turned into one to cater to his new reddit fanbase. That gif is from an old video from at least a year ago, when they were still in isreal and had under 50k subscribers. The didn't give a shit then, now they do their damndest to shill and cater to reddit and tumblr because they're the ones that market them for free with the gifs just like the one you posted.

He had a video up when he first started out like 2 years ago making fun of reddit and calling them greasy neckbeards with cheeto fingers and weird facial hair patterns. That video was deleted since they blew up on reddit.

Face it, he's just like every other jew in the entertainment business, except he made it big on a medium that doesn't matter.
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>>343814272
>Leaves his bookmark names instead of just going by icon

What a cancerous piece of shit
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>>343814517
a coded plugin to automatically handle trades and shit
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>>343811802
There is no way to fix it at this point. Valve is too big to fail, they have more money than God, and good luck explaining this shit to a normie judge who has no prior understanding of the online marketplace.
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>>343814398
USE CODE: TO WIN 3 CENTS OFF YOUR NEXT BET
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>>343813535
shut up retard
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>>343814450
>hey you should check out this channel
>I wont tell what the channel name is though
>that would be spoonfeeding
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Wait a minute. There are literally dozens of vidya "journalism" sites out there. Why are some fucking YouTubers doing more investigative journalism than fucking actual vidya sites with dozens of staff on the payroll?
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>>343810882
>>343810995
>>A graph that shows someone lost 20 subscribers


>>343814397
Because it's rather new in videogames.

Sure, the Youtuber is scum and should be punished

>>343811123
>implying Valve has something to do with this shit
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>>343811518
Drone detected
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>>343813921
what 13 year old has enough disposable income to lose over 1000 dollars?

They aren't even old enough to hold a checkings or savings account. And since they are dependents, they can't lose anything; Only the parents will.

but then the question becomes, why are some parents letting their kids throw away 1000+ dollars into some virtual knife and gun simulator?

Is the kid stealing the money from the parents?

Or did the kid somehow convince the parents that "It will pay off eventually, Promise!"

Either way, it's two situations a good parent can easily avoid if they just pay even a lick of attention to what the kid is doing or trying to do.

Because kids are fucking stupid. Kids don't realize that what they thing statistics are is completely wrong.

They don't realize that opening 200 cases isn't a 90% chance to get a knife, it's still 1% or 0.01% or whatever it is. It's called the fallacy of statistics.
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oh boy is the youtube community ruining another youtubers career?
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>>343814386
Literally couldn't give a single shit because I don't play trash games.
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If only it was based idubbbz that covered this.

>told keemstar to outright kill himself
>unapologetically uses gay, retard and cunt
>never backpedals

Instead it was the hypocrite reddit kike
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>>343813264
Actually Valve is partially responsible for it because they manipulate the market through deciding what is and isn't rare. Part of the reason people want specific items is because they are rare. Other people will intentional hoard a specific item to drive up the 'demand' of it or even use them as currency themselves. (Like what happened with Earbuds in TF2.)

If you want a smoking gun of them fucking with the player driven market, just look at knives in CS:GO and how certain models of the red spider web designed knife took over a year after the crates were introduced for one to drop. Or how certain designs still haven't dropped, which drives up demand and value the moment one does appear.

Or reclaimed crates which are crates with an extremely low drop rate and have contain weapons that have an extremely high usage rate in the community so that drives up the demand for them.

Further more Valve brought in a Euro economist to see how he could make them more money, and his first action was to discontinue certain hats in TF2. That's right, you can no longer craft, unlock or buy those hats from the store, thus giving them more value because there is now a set number of them in the game.

Or hats that you must purchase other games to get, in some cases a lot more games to get. Like the HOUWAR. Where to drive up the market value of it after it was dropping in demand, they gave it an animation years after it was released.


They might not be directly conspiring with the people who run the gambling sites, but they certain have created an environment for it to thrive.
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vavlo tricked me into spending $2k on compendium
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>>343815052
Oh no, will someone think of the scammers.
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>>343813245
if the person in the vid doesn't end up being buddies with them, they always attack H3 with takedowns or threats and start drama first. Reaction videos aren't illegal and that's what he does. Even this vid everyone is spamming, he is technically still just Reacting to the owner's videos.

he stumbled across an incredibly sketchy csgo scam and made his findings public
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>>343815120
>people actually spend 2k on compendium
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>>343810882
>Tmartn
Goddamn, this faggot deserves everything wrong to happen to him and only him.
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>>343814397
I don't think anyone is debating that the youtubers pretending they didin't own the site are pieces of shit, the thing that is being debated here is
a)whether the CS GO skin function is gambling
and
b)whether or not its legal.

of course, it's not gambling and it 100% is completely above the books and clean, but h3h3 said it's bad so people who have no idea what they're talking about have to shove their noses in and talk about how it's so "clearly illegal".
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>>343815307
You do get some kind of Silver plaque for it. So at least there is something.
Im at least a little bit down for a lot of dota shit.
I bought a 40$ T-Shirt that came with a dota courier that I sold for 40$
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>>343814386
Don't give Todd any ideas.
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>>343814593
http://www.reddit.com/r/4chan

>people on the 4chan reddit think it's hard to believe there are people from here who don't post over there as well
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>>343815107
They just created their own economy
Valve earns money from every transaction (cards, items), they earn a shitload of money by doing nothing at this point.
I'm pretty jealous.
>>343815120
No, you're just stupid

Do you think that Stickers or TCGs are gambling?
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>>343815580
just fucking buy it!
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>>343815176
oh no who will think of the people who willingly throw their money away for virtual items
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>>343815580
>>343814386
They're just waiting until they can monetize mods.
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>>343815617
No, I know a lot of you faggots post on reddit. Thats the problem with /v/ now. r/4chan is the most cringeworthy thing I've ever laid my eyes on. They take original content posted here and say "Look at this funny comment SOMEONE ELSE MADE" instead of having actual discussion and making their own content. It's fucking absolute cancer. But god knows you can't say it there, because you'll get downvoted and have your post hidden.

You fucking monkeys should stick to lurking.
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>>343814786
Because there is no real "journalism" in this industry, every outlet is just a mouthpiece for publishers/devs.
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>>343814786
because h3h3 isn't corporately sponsored, and hence has no sponsor to lose by exposing anti-consumer bullshit and scams. They aren't regulated by companies the way Kotaku and other blogs are.
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>>343815916
im op and i never post on reddit
been here since 2004
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>>343814957
Kids luck out all the time.
I know a 12 year old shitkid who lucked out unboxing an unusual and then did what they call a "spycrab", which is a form of in-game gambling to win another unusual item of equal value. From there he went on to waste over a year of his life trading and he has thousands of dollars of possible money into the game now.
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>>343815064
i dont think idubbbz likes doing youtube anymore, he has too many fucking faggot redditors who just regurgitate the jokes HE made back at him. you can see in every passing video since the hair cake video that hes gotten less and less into it every time.
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>>343814957
>but then the question becomes, why are some parents letting their kids throw away 1000+ dollars
because the parents don't fucking know until after the fact. the son asks them to attach a CC to their steam so they can buy games, then they don't monitor them at all.

a friend of mine, his younger brother bought $400 worth of SimCity Mobile cash just by pushing in-game buttons, and the dad didn't find out until almost a month later when he got the bill.
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>>343816103
Did you do it? Did you find happiness yet?
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>>343814593
>He had a video up when he first started out like 2 years ago making fun of reddit and calling them greasy neckbeards with cheeto fingers and weird facial hair patterns. That video was deleted since they blew up on reddit.
>h3h3 just happened to have an opinion that coincided with your own
>your proof is a video that can't be proven to exist

You're pathetic. A liar and pathetic.
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>steam isnt gambling

fuck off autists

stop excusing gabe being a corrupt piece of shit
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>>343816342
yes
just scale the shitposting back and cover current events and everything is hunky dory
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>>343815107
Yes, and none of that is illegal. They are selling a product that you are buying. If you're trying to make money from that from a secondary market, that's on you. Not them. Bottom line.
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>>343816225
>possible money
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>>343814786
Hello buddy. I am the owner of "Shady Corp.". Can you not say stuff like that anymore? I see that you need lots of good boy points, how about I give you all the good boy points you want!
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>spending money on cosmetic items

you retards all deserve to be scammed.
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>People who think crates are totally random

They aren't. Each one has a list of items and you will get one of them. You are saying those little toy dispensers at Grocery Stores or Pizza shops are gambling and need regulated.
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>>343815916
>They take original content posted here and say "Look at this funny comment SOMEONE ELSE MADE"
are you seriously not aware of the overwhelming irony here

like just consider what our content is like, and read that sentence again.

>twitter screencaps are more common than threads simply to talk about a game
>every webm thread or filename thread is the exact same jokes and images and shit reposted ad nauseum

you perfectly describe this board itself, while describing the 4chan subreddit, and you don't see the irony
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>>343810882
Man I hope these false faggot scammers get fucked really hard.
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>>343815107
You know who the Euro economist was? The person who went on to become Greece's fucking finance minister. His name is yanis varoufakis and I read his blog on TF2 economy. I was really surprised when he became a goddamn finance minister.
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More evidence that e-celeb "content" "creators" are worthless.
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>>343815269
>he stumbled across an incredibly sketchy csgo scam

No, he even said in the fucking video that he ripped all the info from some smaller youtuber. He just did it in a way that makes him look like a good guy helping out the little guy by saying "hes great! his videos are great check them out!" so the smaller tuber can't be mad when he rips his entire video's info and content off.
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>>343816731
You are saying slot machines arent random because sometimes it doesnt dispense a sandwich, or the meaning of the universe. What the fuck argument is that?
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>>343811518
I'm sure this is bait but there are people who think like that. Imagine that.
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>>343816731

I wish some richfag would buy like $10,000 worth of crates and statistically verify the drop rates.
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the 3 levels of cancer:

1) league

2) minecraft

3) fps communities
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>>343816923
Slot machines are random. You either hit the jackpot or you don't. You win or totally lose. Every time you open a crate you DO get something and there is a list of possible items to get. Just like these. You never don't get something
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>>343816993
You forgot SJWs and pixel indie shit.
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>>343816993
5 levels of cancer

1)dota type games
2)minecraft
3)twitch communities
4)cartoons
5)anime
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>>343810995
>Nvidia bench marks
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>>343816993
DOTA 2 should be at level 1 but good list.
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>>343814593

Where are the proofs?
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>>343816901
>he even said in the fucking video that he ripped all the info from some smaller youtuber
Uh, he listed a different video as one source for some of his information. and whoever had that video obviously didn't have millions of subs in order to spread the word, whereas H3 did

why does he HAVE to be the bad guy to you no matter what?
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>>343816901
he refers to him as "my friend" at least once in the video

he's a kinda decent entertainer turned absolutely mediocre but it's not like he's the devil or something
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>>343816765
that's why it's so apparent. the regurgitation of jokes was usually kept to "best of /v/" threads or dedicated screencapping threads, now since reddit started coming here a few years ago, everyone who gets a chance to use "I wanna fuck that horse" throws it around without it even making sense in the context.
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>>343816993
>2) minecraft

I don't count Minecraft as cancer since it's mostly literal children so I give them a pass. It's fucking annoying though when actual adults (legally, not mentally) act like fucking complete sperglords.
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>>343816993

the real 3 levels of cancer

1) e-sports

2) speedrunners

3) fps communities
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>>343817176
https://youtu.be/NOB2CLEdzyY?t=36

There were more videos like this, reddit used to be his IM ETHAN BRADBERRY for recycling jokes
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>>343816993
so basically once it becomes popular it's cancer, in other news you won't believe it but the sun came up again this morning.
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This case isn't claiming that crates are gambling. This case is saying that Valve was complicit in an illegal gambling operation by allowing then access to Steamworks.
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Are blind bag toys gambling?
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>>343817456

no, plenty of popular stuff isnt bad

those 3 in particular attract the worst people: 8 year old autists
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>>343817546
Is that similar to loot crates? I know a few normalfags into that.
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>>343817313
it's not "since reddit came here", it was GG. redditors settling here was just a side consequence of GG which attracted all the worst possible attention from all the most insufferable types of people.
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>>343817712
You buy a toy, you see a list of possible toys that can be in the bag, you open it and find out which one you got. Exactly like crates
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I got 24h ban for making a thread about this with 3 sources. Apparently I broke the rule about mod feelings. Goodspeeed to you.
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>>343813921
shit ass parents need to fucking teach their children to fucking not gamble at the age of 10, just like not playing with fire. The moment you give your child money freely, they don't know its worth, aka being stuck in a cubicle for 8 fucking hours a day. But parents these days are doing a shittier job of being tough on their children, and if the children dont get the punishment, then of course the parents are going to be the ones to suffer for it. And of course until they start being a bit tougher on their children, their going to continue to suffer.

I have csgo and play on community servers. Fuck buying skins, just extract the skin textures, change the directory file, and you can have whatever skin you want. Valve can go fuck itself however, it has shit taste in textures. Theres a workshop with 20000 fucking p90 skins and you only get to chose 20 shitty ones that valve placed in game already.
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>>343812872

>You didn't know how these people died until the Jewish News Morality Police toold you about him

yeah, that's kinda how things work in life.
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heres an idea, guys

dont let your fucking 10 year olds have your credit card!

you fucking retards.
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>>343817909
NO, we need more government regulation
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>>343817384

This.
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>>343817724
cause and effect, the regurgitation of jokes is from the reddit community trying their damndest to fit in here by reusing old shit they saw here before. The redditors came because of gg. It just seemed more appropriate to the conversation to say "when reddit got here" because GG wasn't relevant at all, but yeah, you're right.
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>>343814272

You really need sound to appreciate just how fucking stupid he is. If you notice, he goes to log out. In the middle of talking, he just loses all energy in his voice and starts talking slower. He realizes he fucked up hard, but he couldn't go back cause it was live and him logging out would have drawn attention to something most people would gloss over.

Also "similar name to your friend [CSGOLOTTO] Bot #02", kek.
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>>343817808
posting sources is considering advertising
i am being serious
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>>343816993

OFFICIAL VIDEO GAME CANCER POWER RANKINGS

1. F2P gamers
2. ERPer's
3. e-sports fags that legitimately think they're on the same level as actual sports

POWER GAP

4. Casuals who are only into vidya because everyone is into it
5. Console kiddies
6. MOBA shitters

POWER GAP

7. Weebs
8. Nintendrones
9. Anyone that preorders games or partakes in microtransactions
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>>343817384
this is the dumbest /v/ shit i've read today and its 23:41
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>>343817712
not 100%, those toys have a list on them of what you might get. loot crate you don't typically know what's in it until it gets to your door. they have two things in common, they're both garbage and they're both not gambling.
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>>343817083

Slot machines are regulated. Their payout ratios and inspected by government officials.

Crates? Not regulated at all.
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>>343817950

what we need is less stupid people having kids.
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>>343818130
I was pointing towards blind bags being the same as crates which they pretty much are. People even resell what they get from blind bags
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>>343817384
This. Video games used to be fucking fun. Now it's SJW arena for autists and faggots and most cancer comes from those three. Even /v/ is full of fucking cancer that would defend this shit.

See autist nr 1 >>343818114
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>>343818217
Why should they be? Are you saying that blind bag toys and toy dispensers like in that picture need regulation?

Do you actually know how crates work? You always get something and there is a list of things to get.

YOU ALWAYS GET SOMETHING, UNLIKE SLOT MACHINES.
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>>343817603
love these sweeping generalizations you have absolutely no awareness or evidence to back up, just like every comment saying "[whatever] is cancer"

every single popular thing fucking ever has been referred to as "cancerous", every large fandom, every series, every Thing that has ever been popular has been decried as shit or cancer on this board.

you don't like sharing your thing with a crowd of different-minded people. and i'm not even saying that's a bad attitude to have. but you gotta stop singling out specific fandoms like it's not a different fandom every week. fucking overwatch has only been out for a month and people already call it cancer. people STILL recoil in disgust at the very mention of undertale like they STILL can't accept that it was really popular.

history revisionist shitposters love /v/ because if they spam shit that isn't true, it eventually becomes fact among the hivemind.

for example, everyone on /v/ will now swear up and down they never liked borderlands because it became annoyingly mainstream, but everyone fucking loved it when it first came out, hence why it became popular in the first place. but of course shitposters have spammed the narrative that "people never liked borderlands and it was never good" which is blatantly wrong.
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>>343817879
No dude, if I don't like the source of a particular news piece, it's shit, pandering, sjw, tumblr and autistic (((kike))) crap.

i am superior to everyone for not caring
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>>343817909
Just because kids lie and say they're buying games with their parents credit cards while they buy skins to gamble instead isn't on the parents

>but the parents should know what the kids are doing!

The parents barely know how to operate fucking email and Facebook, how the fuck can they distinguish their kids saving up skins and steam credit to gamble it all away instead of actually buying games with it?
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>>343818217
because crates don't have payouts. they have skins.
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>tmartn will be rich his entire life
>h3h3 will have money but will always be paraded by the same reddit fags he claimed to hate
good shit
I'd rather have entrepreneurial integrity than shill out to dumb cunts.
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>>343818350

>why shouldn't there be any verification of a product you're sold with a certain stated drop rate actually have the drop rate verified by an independent third party?

Jesus Christ.
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>>343817603
also this really goes without saying but minecraft became popular on /v/ way before it went mainstream

notch fucking posted here before he ever made real money off MC.
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>>343818229
exactly, and the crates, just like lootcrate and the blind bags, are not gambling.
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>>343818378

/v/ is cancer today

can you really defend it?

seriously?

look around you idiot

popularity ruins good things

/v/ has been dead since 2008
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>>343811518
TmarTn please go
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>retarded dudebro makes a video game gambling site and lies about having nothing to do with the company while encouraging kids to take mommy's credit card and gamble on his site
lol

This is the PC master race in action, a bunch of fucking children more retarded than CoD players.
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>>343818518

Claw machines are also regulated like slot machines.
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>>343811505
Spoken like a true normie that hasn't spent $750 to make your knife look pretty.
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>>343818378

these 3 things I listed are bad because of the fanbase
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>>343818597
Are you just as out raged about blind bag toys as this then? Do you go to /toy/ and push for government regulation of them?
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>>343818507

maybe parents shouldnt be fucking retards then?

thats another problem, most parents these days are idiots.
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>>343818698
Claw machines aren't like crates. Toy dispensers at stores and blind bag toys are, show me their regulation
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>>343818696
>guy makes money
>every one is mad
FUCK h3h3
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>>343818507
How fucking old do you think people are these days you dumb nigger? Maybe if it was grandparents, but someone who's 26 right now was born in 1990 and grew up with computers their whole lives.

And how hard is it to go into your kids room and complete the transaction for them? That's what my parents always did, for everything. Whether it was WoW, runescape, Xbox live gold, DLC, whatever. They'd always come in and look at what it was I was buying before entering their information and watching me hit submit.
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>>343818652
not /v/ specifically, gaming in general peaked between 2004-07 (the meat of 6th gen) before a combination of cancerous shit slowly infected the industry, then the 2010 tf2 update happened and things really kicked into second gear
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>>343818228
get to work
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>>343818597
feel free to hire an independant 3rd party to investigate
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>>343818597

I don't get it, there are always people happy to shill for greedy cunts.
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>>343819123

lol fuck getting married in 2016, it's financial suicide.

if I was a girl maybe.
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>>343818698
Claw machines don't have a guaranteed prize every time you enter a quarter, either.
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>>343818005
well gg started on /v/, people didn't bring it here. it was /v/'s own self-destroying movement
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>>343819207
>Less stupid people should have kids
>Having kids is stupid

Paradox of "Smart" People
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>>343819207
don't need to get married
just find a nice girl (dude) to live together with and adopt
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>>343817909
>your
>implying people on /v/ have kids
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>>343819382
>adopt

Literally cuckold
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>literally who does literally what to literally kids
I literally could not care less
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>>343818070
What the fuck? I got banned by rule 3. This i though was to delete furries, mlp and apparently now links to youtube, which question how fucked the cs;go gampling system is.
It's pretty fuckwd. Utube/wargod1283.
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>>343819317
debatable, either way it drew more people into /v/
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>>343819709
it's not debatable, it started on /v/ first and anyone who claims otherwise is trying to push a revised narrative. this board isn't getting out of accepting that this is the future they chose.
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>>343819352

we need smart people having kids.

however, im not getting fucked by divorce. that is stupid.

>>343819382

im not raising someone elses stupid kid.
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>>343818652

I've just been lurking, but truthfully this place hit it's all-time low in 2009 and 2010, it's when I actually went to Reddit for awhile. I've come back and aside from the SJW shit it's mostly better. But yeah, I miss those pre-2007 days. It really was like a secret club.
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>>343818070
my post which was asking humbly for source got deleted just a few hours ago too

is this some new thing that mods are cracking down on? haven't seen them this fervent over anything in a while
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>>343819435
I'd adopt a kid but only if she was a cute loli and I didn't have to get married to do so.
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>>343820009
This is why they don't let pedos adopt
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>>343819557
mods delete shit seemingly at random, the only thing guaranteed to get deleted on sight is outright porn or nude pics.

viral marketing threads (like for, say, Overwatch) blatantly get allowed to stay and max out replies while mods indiscriminately delete other non-OW threads with impunity regardless of activeness or post count
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>>343813543
Do people actually think this is funny?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1yrH4qS2RA
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>>343819910

/v/ was better before it turned into nintendoGAF

there are occasional good threads but yeah
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>>343819910
you can't seriously say this board is better now than it was even just pre 2014 (gg). it was never, ever as fucking awful and devoid of worth as it is now.
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>>343810882
what happened?
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>>343820087
H3H3 does seeing as he has ripped off Sam's videos https://youtu.be/cc5wkQm6B44 https://youtu.be/1ufw9tDaJ-w
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>>343820186
You know that's said every single year, right?
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>i watched an h3h3 video now i know that Valve is literally evil

Fuck off you pathetic commie faggots, like any of you bernouts actually give a fuck about muh underage gambling anyway. Is there anything more pathetic than virtue signaling on 4chan?
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>>343820040
I'm not one, stop thinking the only ones on the Earth that can find little girls cute are pedos. You're literally falling for a Jewish trap to only let women adopt kids, because any adult male needs to be treated as a potential sex offender for being within 1000 feet of a child that isn't theirs.
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>>343817153
This made me chuckle.
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>>343819549
>I don't care about thing so I got to make sure to let everyone know I don't care
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So how is VALVe to blame in all of this? Aside from them making the crate system I don't see any reason they would be drawing flack.
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>>343817153
kek
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>>343820373
You are a pedo. You used the pedo term for a little girl.
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>>343820415
...What?
>if you use a certain word on 4chan you're a pedo
Okay pal. Fucking sue me, I want to have a cute daughter but I don't want to have to marry any ugly succubus.
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>>343820406

marketplace and selling of hats

they enable this shit
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>>343820323
I'm so sick of this handwave. I was here, I saw it prior to GG in 2014 and not just this site but everything was still better. I mean it was always going downhill after 2007 or so but it really barreled for the abyss in the last 3 or 4 years.

it's been worse than ever and I'm wondering if shit will be able to balance out any time soon
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I always thought they guy seemed like a scumbag. The tone of his voice or maybe it was all the clickbait youtube videos. Don't trust any of them.
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>>343810882
wow wtf i hate TmarTn now
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>>343820226
I didn't know h3h3 was a """""""comedian""""""" I thought he just made shitty drama videos
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>>343820593
It's just as shit as it always was, anon.
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>>343814394
million dollar extreme
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>>343820543
Using that word of all things and on 4chan? You're a pedo. Also enjoy your fucked up kid if it ever happens. Kids need two parents, especially ones that were just fucking abandoned by their real parents. You pedo cuckold
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>>343820730
nice revisionist history, you cynical faglord
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>>343820215
Apparently the basic story is like this

Some youtube "celebrity" made a video claiming he "found" a betting site for cs:go skins and he won a little bit of money on the site. The thing is the guy apparently founded and owned the site so there was no chance of him losing to begin with. After someone discovered his ties to the site(as well as several other youtube guys) he started claiming that he always disclosed his ties to the site. Then people brought up his original video where he claimed that he "found" the site and he deleted all his videos.
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>>343817163

>Dota 2 over League

Read what you type before you post.
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>>343820784
>buzzword buzzword
Maybe once the government isn't full of affirmative action niggers and women I'll actually get to have a cute daughter.
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>>343811271
the fuck is that comic? Is it meant to be funny? Sad?
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>>343813060
Iirc the guy actually killed himself
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>>343821126
You are a cuck for raising another persons kid. You are a pedo for using that word to refer to little girl.
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>>343816901
But hes giving that smaller youtuber literally all the attention and info that person wanted to get out whilst being listed as the source and credited in everything they did.

literally whats wrong with that, had he stole that shit and pretended to have found it all himself then he'd be an asshole but as it stands hes just more spreading awareness about a few scumbags much like how a bunch of people reshared the same info about keemstar or onision being actual sociopaths.
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personally I don't fucking care that kids lost their money over gambling
but I think it's funny as shit that this guy is L I T E R A L L Y doing something illegal by not disclosing his association to a website he is advertising, which he actually OWNS
there are even kid fans in the shitstorm videos by HonorTheCall and h3h3 that are still giving Tmartn the benefit of the doubt and saying he isn't cheating on his own website

for fucks sake, here's a video someone saved of him in one of his lotto videos (which he has deleted, by the way) where he is actually logged into a lottobot account on steam (one of the accounts that actually holds the skins themselves used for betting)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYnLUUMBZJg
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As I get older the more I realize that a lot of the problems in the world can be solved with less shit parents.

When I was 13, my dad would barely give me 10 bucks if I didn't justify it to him first. He would NEVER give me his debit/credit card. Not even now as a trustworthy adult he wouldn't give it to me because there's zero reason for me to have it. If I wanted something, he would go get it. Period, end of story. He was always the middle man so his card would never reach my hands. Why are parents giving their kids unmonitored access to their money? Are you fucking kidding me? No amount of convincing should EVER get you to the point where you're like "Yeah just take my card. I trust you 13 year old that clearly wants to use it on games and shit."

What the fuck man. I'm not defending Tmartn, I've never watched his videos and he's clearly a shady fuck and I don't really care whether what he's done is illegal or not. All this talk about taking advantage of kids though, where are the parents? Kids by design don't have any money, you as a parent would have to have gotten involved or not involved in this case.

Again, this guy is a scumfuck but the parents are useless piles of trash. If you can't even stop your child from spending your funds away then you shouldn't have kids. That's the bigger issue here than some obnoxious Youtuber trying to make shady bux.
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>>343820784
I'm starting to think /pol/ users need to use a quota of buzzwords daily or else they will die.
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>>343821285
if it was about spreading awareness he would have made a 30 second video saying "WATCH THIS GUYS VIDEO, IT'S IMPORTANT" and put it out to his million+ subscribers, and he wouldn't have monetized the video. This is about him taking content and reusing it in a low effort hackjob and then saying "this guys super cool go check him out" so everyone thinks he's the good guy just giving shine to the little guy. and apparently, from the responses my post got, it worked.
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>>343810882
what happened?
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>>343820576
Well yes, but no one has been bitching about the TF2 hat economy and hat barons so far. What has changed apart from the scumbags that were running these sites?
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Did he do something illegal? No.

Fine now kill yourselfs.
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>>343821524
>that long ass pause and facial expression when he realizes he's still logged into a bot account
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>>343821246
You worry me for the future of your generation. All you know is buzzwords and memes. Everything is black and white in your mind, you're either with us or you're against us.

Hypothetically, would you become a cuck if your best friend died and he had no other family members so you decided to raise his kid?
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>>343821767

it shouldnt be there in the first place

it's a huge grey area
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>>343821781
>Did he do something illegal? No.

he kind of did
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>>343821626
you do realize that if he did that fucking little to nobody would watch the original video right? Some people would but not as many as they have through him reiterating the info.

your just trying to find something to bitch about in whats a natural flow of information, its always worked like this, twhen a big youtuber is going to spread info they always summarrize or water down the general gist of it instead of just linking the original post cause they know their subs are only there to hear what that person they are subbed to has to say and only a small portion of them will actually click the original video, this way the person gets credited and the info spreads around faster.
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>>343821781
>Did he do something illegal? No.
Yes, multiple things. It's not legal to lie about not owning a gambling site and then advertise to people how much money you can win on it because you, the owner, rigged it to win thousands of dollars.
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