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Sum up your reaction to the ending with one picture.
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>>343736065
Fuck, beat me too it
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TWO CARLOS
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>>343735846
THREADLY REMINDER
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REMINDER:

CARLOS IS GAY, ONE OF YOU WILL ASK UCHI ON TWITTER. ONE DAY ONE IF YOU WILL HAVE THE BALLS.

IF I'M WRONG I WILL WRITE FAGGOT ON MY FOREHEAD.
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>>343735846
Is that a rat?
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post jumpy
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>>343735846
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>>343735846
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when they are asking Q who zero is the first answer is i dont know and the second answer is delta?

i just spoiled myself yesterday by looking at the wiki about sigma's babies so i already know. should i put in the answer right now? or just skip to another fragment
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Is it true that the voice actor of Delta is the same as Wesker from RE5? >>343735846
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At least Sigma and Diana remembered to put their clothes on for pillow talk
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>go to some random popular youtube channel
>find out that he's playing ztd
>he's never played 999 or vlr
>look at the comments
>see this

Operation Bluebird was a mistake.
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>>343735846
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>>343736490
Don't put in the answer until you actually figure it out in the game, trust me.
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>>343736490
no dont do it you nigger and stop browsing the wiki/these threads
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>>343736490

There's no fragment where Q is being asked that and you don't already know who it is.
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>>343736529
It's D.C. Douglas, yeah.
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that's practically blasphemous
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>>343736549
It annoyed me so much they couldn't be assed to take their clothes off and just have the scene shot from the chest up.

It would have been so much better and felt more organic.
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>>343736608
wtf I like ZTD now
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>>343736549
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Sigma worst dad.
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>Akane oganized a Nonary Game in the past
>she planned everything
>can easily obtain information thanks to the morphogenetic field
>acts like this is the first time she was in things like these
>always ready to snap and go full Clover on Carlos even in scens like the Pantry

And people consider this "in character" and good writing and label you a shitposter if you point it out
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>>343736639
What's awesome about this is that Uchi actually remembered that Akane was not in the room when he was talking to Lotus and Santa about the picture, so she wouldn't know what he was talking about.
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Reposting the patch from the anon in the last thread.


Hey guys, I finally made a redhead patch for Phi in python 3.
All you need is to extract the .rar in a folder with the file 00000000.cfsi and run the script.
Don't forget to back up the original 00000000.cfsi too.
Good night guys.

Download like for the mod: http://moe-desu.com/download/ZTDRedhead.rar
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>>343735846
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>>343736529
Almost makes me want to replay with the dub, but I can't go without my Chiaki Omigawa as Phi, even if she is dead most of the time

>>343736747
I like to think they actually modeled nude Sigma and Diana and not just arms.
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>>343736556
Ignore those normalfags, please.
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The endings were kinda shit except for C-end and D-end 2.

The rest were lame as fuck.
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>>343736556
>reading YouTube comments
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>>343736782
Her idiocy in ZTD is pretty unbelievable, yeah.
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>>343736556
but they are right this time, they didn't say anything wrong
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I hate this wiki
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I'm gonna miss this threads when everyone stop talking about the game

It's so comfy talking, complaining and making theories here
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>>343735846
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>>343736782
The writing on every character was really out of place.

Would've been better if they said this was a timeline in which 999 never happened or something.
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His motives are sister COMPLEX.
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Why did Carlos threaten to rape Akane?
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>>343736782
Sigma did some dumb shit too considering what he should know.
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>>343737267
Because Uchikoshi was upset that he didn't get to put a rape scene in VLR.
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>>343737226
Phi was pretty on point.
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>>343737267
>Carlos took 1 hour of intense thinking in order to decide to fake rape akane and get punched by junpei
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>>343737226
Carlos was about the only one who stayed in character the entire game besides Eric. Mira acted like a decent human being in some timelines which seemed off.
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I wanna replay VLR so I can laugh at Sigma throwing sexual innuendos at his daughter
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>>343737250
Does Maria get two onichan in the true ending?
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>>343736782
What if going batshit insane was all part of her plan?
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>>343737216
>filename
kecked
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>>343737104
Don't worry friend, I edited it.
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>>343737310
The "I love you two" stuff, her handling of the gun situation, and the complex about her hair felt kind of off.
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>>343737367
>Burst Mars facility
>Finds nothing
>Goes home
>Get cucked by himself
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>>343737267
Rape culture is still strong in 2028's America
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>>343736556
Source on that video?

>Implying the average Let's Play audience can appreciate a Zero Escape game
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>>343737318
>Delta saw through his clever ruse.
>Sat in the Quantum Computer Dome laughing his ass off completely so that he could go out to them and tell them that he saw through it with a straight face.
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>>343737478
they can appreciate other similar games tho
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>>343736162
Aren't chainsaw like super heavy?

How does she swing that thing around?
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>>343737389
>the whole bullshit paragraph gone
My nigga
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>>343737250
can't blame him

>this moment when you realize young sigma in VLR was not only making lewd comments towards young girl while being well over sixty years old, but also it was his daughter

think about it: if phi would be curious about fucking a senior citizen, we'd have pretty solid interdimensional oedipus interpretation
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>Wow, we shifted in to a timelne where we won the coin toss!
>Delta, we know what you did! You're the real monster!
>But we're going to conveniently forget that there is a COLD-BLOODED MURDERER STANDING RIGHT HERE AMONG US RIGHT NOW WHO KILLED US ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS
Do these people have brain damage?
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>>343737604
>not a Carlos version for 10 months
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>>343737612
nice date
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Isn't dio a clone of brother?
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>>343737639
But Akane is one of the main characters they couldn't turn on her
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>>343737697
Dio was a clone of Left.
Not that Uchi bothered to clarify how any of that worked out in ZTD.
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>>343737697
Dio's a clone of Brother's dead brother, who was written out of ZTD.
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>>343737639
it gets less powerful when you're constantly switching between timelines
>diana and sigma haven't even mentioned fact that in timeline they transported to eric and q choose to decapitate them and their daughter
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>>343737570
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zFemhNS4We8
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>>343735846
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>>343737639

And has actually killed people that are still dead in that timeline.

Mira just gets a free pass until Eric asks her to turn herself in. I believe Carlos said it best:
>THE FUCK??!
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>>343737761
He wasn't written out. Brother said he had a brother that wasn't actually family by blood.
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>>343737619
>tfw Phi's is the only one that doesn't look retarded or insulting

Also, there was apparently a "sick burn" relating to Uchi at the AX panel someone from a previous thread mentioned. Does anyone got any more info on that? Might have had to do with reusing twists.
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>>343737570
>Finally find the source
>Check out what else is the guy playing
>Uncharted 4 and Life is Strange

Like I said, let's player audiences cannot appreciate good games unless they're given a 9/10 by IGN or have a big marketing campaign along with ebin reddit memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFemhNS4We8
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>>343737478
>tfw streamed ZTD on a little no-name streaming site with 30 people tops
>people reaction went from "WEEB SHIT" to "IS THIS ANIME SAW?" to "This was a pretty good game desu lad"
I feel like I did a good thing.
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>>343737919
Dio/Left was supposed to actually be in the third game, not be written off as unimportant.
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>>343736302
If I don't laugh I'll cry
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>>343735846
I liked it.
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>>343737969
you want a fucking medal or something dude?

fucking streamer cuck cancer
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>>343738000

Sorry Uchi, I didn't realize who I was talking to.
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instead of making an amry of cloned Left why doesn't he clone Shifters and sends them to alternate timelines to investigate on the terrorist attack?
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>>343738145
It's something that he said publicly on Twitter.
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Ever17 still has the best memes.
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>>343738129
Those words...
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>>343737639
>Akane: Delta, you can't just use your powers to mess with people like this to create a stable loop where you exist!
>Akane: Except, oops, that's exacytly what I did in 999.
Junpei was the one able to call her out on that and he didn't like the passive aggressive bitch he is.
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>>343735846
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>>343738224
>there are newfags present RIGHT NOW who don't know why she was in the washing machine
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>>343738129
Nah, just relaying my experience of how people react to ZTD, man. No need to get all agressive.
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>>343736882
Oh my God this is fucking brilliant.
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>>343738224
too bad 999 is a better ever17
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>>343738294
It all was because of huge fucking tuna.
You can't fit both her and tuna in a machine, so she was forced to stay outside.
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>>343736882
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>>343738386

2 bad ur mom is a better ur dad
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>>343738265
I had 22 hours. I don't know how people got shit like 16/17 hours unless they skipped a ton or missed bad ends. I only spent an hour tops stuck on puzzles total.

>>343738224
I would like to see more but that's the only ending I've gotten since the game so far is boring as piss.
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So I literally just finished it. Are there really no follow up files for Sigma, Diana and Phi? Fucking Mira and co. get a fucking WE GOTTA GO BACK note, but they get nothing?
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Are there any "Let go" images that have been made?
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>>343738386
I'd actually put it like this
Remember11>999>Ever17
Ever17 just drags on for so fucking long.
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>>343738000

I don't get why they didn't just make Sean part of the first wave of Left clones or something.
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>>343736490
Play the fucking game you faggot, get out of here until you're done.
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>>343738475
The hardest puzzles I had encountered was fucking flowers puzzle, got stuck there for solid 1.5 hour
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>>343738475
Oh, the game IS kind of boring and slow paced while playing the regular routes. But keep playing, it gets much better when you go for the true route.
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>>343738237
no one called him out on that in particular though.
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>>343738237

I was really surprised that he never did call her out. I figured there'd be a big scene where he just lays into her for being a hypocrite and playing the innocent dumb girl throughout the entire game.
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made some OC
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>>343738661
The only hard puzzle is an alien numerical system one that is required to start the nucleus. I have genuinely pulled out my notebook to make some notes, because in-game memo has "LOL NOT ENOUGH INK" problem.
Also
>tfw you perfectly replicae Healing Room Diagram only to find out that you just need to make a photo of it
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Literally arguing with an admin on the wiki right now about removing a repeated ZTD artwork of Junpei in the ZTD section when it's already a page at the top.

This wiki is doomed.
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>>343735846
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>>343738661
Fuck that puzzle, I was drunk when I was doing it but I don't think it would have been any better were I sober. I brute forced it.
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>>343738795
>hihg
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Also that ending
>Oh no, is it right for us to shift into our other bodies throwing away their personalities
>Except that's exactly what we've been doing all this time
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>>343738819
>because in-game memo has "LOL NOT ENOUGH INK" problem.
Life is just complex
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>>343738576
My nigga

Remember11 is the most fun I've ever had reading a visual novel. Shame it wasn't finished. Still was a blast figuring our the mysteries though.
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>>343738795
>hihg
ONE JOB, NIGGA
AND YOU BLEW IT
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>>343738870
>he doesn't get the reference
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>>343738870
n-no you fucked up
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>>343737960
tbf Jessie is pretty into it tho
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>>343738819
I actually managed to figure out the number symbols with ease, and wondered for like 10 minutes what the card battle table was used for, like I thought it needed to be used with nucleus opening or something when it was just a place to test the numerical values of symbols that were easily deduced even without it. And that whole conversion thing was the only place where I just constantly went in and out of the puzzle just to see the hints characters said, because I didn't have any idea how to deal with the nucleus code. Then I approacehd the nucleus AFTER getting the symbol hologram and BOOM it opens and reveals the four symbols and the room is completed and I feel like a fucking idiot.
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>>343739048
uh
UH


SHIT

RULE INFRACTION
RULE INFRACTION
INITIATE BACKPEDELING
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>>343738568
Someone should really make a Back to the future edit with Mira and Sean.
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>>343738940
Ka~gome
Kago~me
Ushiro no sho~umen da~are?
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>>343739359
>343739359
R11 fuckign sucks.
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Was there ever a conclusion to the infinity series overall?
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>>343739462
Ever17 is as conclusive as you get, including a timeline with all the events until that point.
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>>343739462
No.
Such is the fate of writers who have good imagination - as soon as they get swept up in the stream of inspiration, the forget all they did before that.
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>>343737956
I can't find it but he said he reused the Ever17 twists because they were important to him and since it didn't do well in the west, he figured the twist would do better in a fresh title like 999.
To the Anon who was asking about the Notes Software pic, I didn't take a picture for some fucking reason. Looking back on the RPG Site image you posted, I never knew Michael J. Fox was there taking pictures for them.

I would've asked for an autograph.
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>>343739615
Well shit. Alright. I'd love to find a mindfuck harder than ever17

>>343739642
Not sure what you mean by this. Elaborate further.
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>>343739359
Iitsuu iitsuu deeyaaruu~
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>>343737562
>Be Delta
>It's team Cs turn
>Look into Carlos brain
>"How can we escape? We need a plan. Maybe I should rape Akane."
>Look into Junpei
>"I still haven't asked Akane. Damn, the fuck am I doing here? Oh Akane."
>Look into Akane
>"What exactly happened to Jumpy during the last year? Oh my Junpei, I'm so sorry (lol)"
>Lame, back to Carlos
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was future Akane lying and working with Delta from the start?
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>>343736882
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I'm playing VLR, and my only real complaint so far is that it's difficult to understand why certain things change between timelines. After picking the yellow door, Tenmyouji picks the opposite choice as you no matter what you choose. And what caused the events of Clover's ending to happen when they did? Are these ever explained or is it just bullshit to add more interesting story events to different paths?
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so, was it even directly said that Mira killed Eric's mother?
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>>343739914
According to the headcanon of some people, yes.
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>>343740030
Schrödinger's Cat
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>>343740030
Blame Schrodinger or something.
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>>343740064
no but heavily implied
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Post Ever17 memes, I must've missed the boat and my folder's empty. Help an anon out will ya?
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>>343740064
It's pretty obvious if you connect Mira's and Eric's flashbacks with the story Zero told.
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>>343740064
Mira is Eric's mother. That's why the people aren't freaking out about her killing people.
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>>343740307
>>343740307
Naturally I know the hacker
Washing machine
Shat bricks during Coco path
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>>343740030
Schödinger's Cat

Keep playing but if you want quick answers go through the Cyan doors, all of those have story locks, though. The best thing you can do right now is go through the Magenta doors and betray Luna.
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My ZTD is updating on Steam, 582 MB. Is the DLC that I "downloaded" hours ago finally starting or is something else happening?
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>>343740382
Was hoping pics desu.
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>>343740507
It's accessing the Internet morphologic fields to download the True ending from an alternate Steam.
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>>343740307
LIFE READING:
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Was Q an Emil reference? Hot tits even rest her arms on his head at one point.
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>>343740382
>know

also who kicked the can
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>Beat ZTD
>Everyone's left the shelter
>this appears
g-guys...
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>>343740810
>SHIT WE FORGOT GAB
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hey. what do i do now? the last fragment i finished is when i typed Delta then Q shot the delta with an arrow. now what? i have 3 fragments still locked and i dont know what to put on the Q and D force quit box.
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>>343740759
Someone should ask Uchikoshi if he could do something about Ever17 getting a Steam release.
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>>343740810
You wish. That really took me by suprise first time I completed a route.
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>>343740876
See all executions.
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>>343740909
uchi isn't part of KID anymore

that said, root double did get on steam so anything's possible
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>>343740876
Transporters. Door of Truth.
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>>343740810
That always creeped me the fuck out.
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Here's a full list of the X passes with timelines:

If C Team presses the button: Q=self, Mira=rip, Eric=lake, Diana=bird, Phi=twin, Sigma=old
If Q Team presses the button: Carlos=dream, Akane=key, Junpei=quark, Diana=mom, Phi=dear, Sigma=arm
If D Team presses the button: Carlos=shift, Akane=six, Junpei=ring, Q=age, Mira=heart, Eric=love
If C Team loses the vote: Carlos=fire, Akane=crash, Junpei=five
... if Q Team injects Radical-6: Eric=ice, Sigma=dad, Phi=time
If Q Team loses the vote: Q=eye, Mira=kill, Eric=fool
... if Phi incinerates: Phi=future, Carlos=hero, Junpei=hate, Akane=hex
... if Sigma is shot: Sigma=fate, Diana=moon, Carlos=save, Junpei=doll
If D Team loses the vote: Diana=blue, Phi=red, Sigma=milk, Junpei=jump
... if Carlos suicides: Carlos=fight, Eric=poor
,,, if Carlos kills Akane: Akane=june, Mira=virgin

There are plenty of other deaths in scenes which never reveal the x passes.
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>>343740876
Have you seen all the executions? Open up the Global Flowchart and look at the top left for a thumbs up and three skulls. They should all be lit up. If they aren't then do the acid votes again
for example
>if D execution is missing then go to Q and C votes and vote for D
>after both have voted you should immediately see the execution
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>>343740985
Yeah, but KID is dead so it's the one you probably want to ask.
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>>343736417
I really wonder if they intended this expression to be comical

I can't help but laugh every time I see it
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>>343741020
>Mira=virgin
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>>343738819
That one was easy, the answer is already on the cards, then just put them on that card fighting thing, it just takes a while
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>>343741146
Well, not anymore in one of the bad endings.
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>>343740975
>>343741070
thumbs up, red green blue skulls are already lit up. since yesterday.
>>343740995
already finished those
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>>343740876
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>>343741203
which one was that
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Where the fuck did Delta come from in the Transporter room

Why did everyone start calling Q Sean out of nowhere

How did Q shoot Delta with an arrow
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>>343741083
I've sent a message to Nakazawa, hope he speaks english
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>>343741251
Interesting... In that case, look on the Global Flowchart for any exclamation marks ( ! ). If there are none then you must have missed a password or something. The scene which unlocks the entire endgame involves Sigma and Diana.
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>>343741020
I feel dumb for not paying more attention to these as the game went, every twist was in those passes.
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>>343741269
If you shot no one, her and Eric get away.
Days later, they are fucking in a big bed, until Mira rips his heart.
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>>343741386
Q was always there, you can see his shadow in several scenes, and he might have been invisible to his own cameras (the truth is invisible).

And Sean was always Sean, he was never called Q in the entire game.


Delta pretty much came out of nowhere in that one room, maybe he wheeled there without nobody noticing.
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>>343741416
Oh, yeah. Never connected the fact that they had sex.
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>>343741014
The unsettling feeling is one of the best parts of games like these. 999 had it. VLR had some of it. I wish ZTD had more of that eerie feeling.
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>>343741386
Delta was always on Q-team, you just couldn't see him because he was always off camera (his shadow is visible sometimes)

He went by Q, Sean never went by Q, you just assumed it was his name
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>>343741149
I started doing that then thought "there's no way something so tedious could be correct, I must be missing a hint." I wasn't missing a hint at all, I just had a retard moment and didn't know the symbols were literally numbers even though it said so in the book. I just thought they had values relative to one another, so I was trying to figure out the relationship between human, moon, and star. It was only when I was at the breaking point and arbitrarily assigned numbers to each symbol that I figured it out. I blame the fact that I was playing nonstop and low on brainpower.
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>>343741386
>Where the fuck did Delta come from in the Transporter room
He was there the entire time just conveniently never in shot.

>Why did everyone start calling Q Sean out of nowhere
No one ever actually referred to Sean as Q and this was the first time he was called by his real name.

>How did Q shoot Delta with an arrow
Q is Delta, you mean Sean, and again he was there the entire time.
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>>343741492
>he was never called Q in the entire game.
He called himself Q in a way near the coin toss
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>>343741621
Watch the scene again
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>33/33 achievements
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>>343741492
>tfw never saw his shadow
can i see a screen cap where i can see his shadow?

also, they just called Sean by his name. that was just abrupt.
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>>343741727
someone post the Q foreshadowing master image
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Q team got four people all this time? dafq
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>>343741683
>As evidenced by the name, the leader is Q.
>M-me?
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>>343741695
>31/33 achievements because I missed a couple quest files
i-i still have a reason
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>>343741509
The issue with ZTD is that, to some degree, you what you're getting into, though the violence did get upped to compensate a bit.

I think another part of it is the series becoming more openly sci-fi. Contrast with 999, which built up the appearance of reality before smashing it to pieces at the end.
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Wait a sec
>Time device was confiscated by Americans AFTER world war 2
Does that mean hitler could´ve copied himself? Does this imply that he might be the religious fanatic?
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>>343741851
Yee
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>>343741931
Q doesn't know anyone's names at that point, he assumes it's him
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>>343741938
http://zeroescape.wikia.com/wiki/Files_(Zero_Escape:_Zero_Time_Dilemma)

Not for long...
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>>343741998
then, why they are not suspicious at all that they are the only team that got 4 people
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>>343741851
>silent old man in a wheelchair wearing round tinted specs
>one extra team member in a game where teams usually contained three
>nobody suspects a thing
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>>343741968
What makes you think Delta didn't have the device on lock once he mastered MINDHAX?
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>>343741851
No, Q is always with the team that's awake.
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>>343742117
They are though, why do you think Eric is so suspicious of Sean.
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>>343742015
And nobody corrects him or points out that there is a guy who's actually called Q who happens to currently be missing?
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>>343741407
The only Q passes are "age", "eye", and "self". All three of those keywords could in a sense apply to both Sean and Delta, which doesn't really say much about either of their twists.

The biggest reveal that is made obvious by these passes is that Phi is a twin and the child of Sigma and Diana.

>>343741851
Three people and a robot that handles all the decisions for them.
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Am I the only one that looked at Q-Team different than the other teams? I mean not looking them as complete protagonists like C or D

It's like, uh, when you see a Pokémon episode centered on Team Rocket, and in Q-End 2 it's like when the protagonists team up with Team Rocket to defeat something bigger
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>>343737349
I think Diana was consistent too. She had a large range of emotions, but they all seemed like normal human reactions given the situations.
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>>343742146
How am I supposed to know anon?
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>>343741968
>traveling through time to defeat hitler
oh that always turns well
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>>343742179
IIRC the scene cuts away, so he obviously got corrected

>no actually this guy is Q

in the voting scene eric actually complains "I know the leader's supposed to vote, but..." and earlier he says "IS THIS A JOKE?" when Q is selected

it's a misdirection but it's got tons of foreshadowing, I wish someone posted the image again
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>>343741998
More
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>tfw i went up and down the stairs in the library just to fuck up with wheel chair guy
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>>343742280
>tons of foreshadowing
It's really subtle. The only way you can really tell is when Junpei and Akane transport to the VLR timeline
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Would the game have been better if Delta was different? How would you redesign him? Motives? Appearance? Personality?
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>>343742398
Motives: Complex
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>>343742398
Make him look 40 and claim it's part of the mind hack mutation or something

I know they were going with the german mad scientist look but it just looks dumb

that or make him snake, I can't believe he got no mentions at all
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>>343742398
COMPLEX MOTIVES. OLD MAN 100 YEARS OLD. MIND HACK.
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>>343742398
delta as clover
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>>343742227
Diana might be the most well rounded character in the series. That surprise past and her mood swings in D ending 2 really added a lot to her.
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>>343736782
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>>343742218
To me they were "Team Literally Who" as compared to "Team 999" and "Team VLR"
being full of new people while the other teams had the protagonists of the previous games in addition to me really not liking anyone on Q team initially. Eventually Sean seemed okay and I found out Mira had jiggle physics but I never truly warmed up to Q team
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>>343742398
Maybe something like this.
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BROOCH AND WHAT THE FUCK IS THE OTHER ONE?
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would you say this spread is similar for these threads?

i'm actually very surprised that sigma had so many votes
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>>343742148
Q is always with Q team, hence the name.
When Q team is asleep, Q/Delta is probably in the central conputer room, viewing shit through his glasses.
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>>343742805
Music box.
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>>343742398
The part that killed it for me was the whole "he was there the whole time" thing
Ushi made it seem like they wouldn't pull a "you're actually 67 years old" twist again with the third person camera and dynamic positioning
It's hard to believe that the entire game the old mute deaf blind dude would only get mentioned like once, that Sean would never be called by name, and nothing else would happen to make it obvious there were four people on Q team
The fact that the reveal is essentially exactly the fucking same as VLR just felt lazy like Ushi wanted to add in a huge twist but didn't know how to pull off another one
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>>343738661
For me it was the heart shaped puzzle pieces.

The other ones with moving blocks on the Xs was fine, but that one had no way of knowing which positions the big blocks should be in. There were so many possible ways of doing it all right except for one block.
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>>343742398
Motives. I like how he is supposed to represent the player, but it feels like he exists solely for that and nothing else, and so everything about him proceeds from that purpose.

And as a result, most of the plot points at the end of VLR get thrown out the window.
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>>343742805
It's Blue Bird. Yes there's a space in the middle. I also thought it was stupid.

>>343742848
literally what
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>>343742218
The others had explainations and SHIFTers. Sean's team was mostly for another perspective and insight into Delta I guess.
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>>343742148
When the announcer says that Q is dead, does it mean Delta or the particular copy of Sean that accompanies Q Team?

The "Q" mentioned by the announcer dies along with Eric and Mira as a result of the team votes and the acid button. He can't accompany the others in those paths and his disappearance should seem suspicious if he was with them before that. Zero outright says that he's dead in some timelines.
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>>343742398
A Phi lookalike in his 30s with longer red hair. Someone more relateable than an old man.
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>>343742880
I used music box too, both works.
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>>343742857
>Ushi made it seem like they wouldn't pull a "you're actually 67 years old" twist again with the third person camera and dynamic positioning
It's not even an original twist anyway, Ever17 did it first.
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what does the force quit box do? bring your memories back?
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>>343742752
I thought Sean was the only decent character on team Q
Mira was an edgy serial killer and Eric was an ugly beta male with a shitty job
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>>343742880
Music box works too you mong
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>>343742398
I like him for the most part. It's only the twist that annoys me about him.
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>>343742953
Announcer always refers to Delta.

>captcha: Delta
2spooky
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>>343742398
maybe instead of using radical 6 to kill one dude he could probably find on his own given his infinite resources, have him use radical 6 to counteract Fanatic Bio R (if it's actually real) which somehow makes its way into the general population, and that way is too complex for Delta to handle on his own so he needs powerful espers.

but i also do not want a ZE4 so stopping Fanatic Bio R should be handled on site, or in a cutscene at least.
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Post Carlos
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>>343742718
>waifufags can't read

Good thing I talked about stuff from the past that should have already have experienced

>b-b-ut is just like a little gurl! this is good you are just a shitposter!
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>>343743046
What the hell are you doing in this thread if you haven't finished it yet? Unless you're stuck, fuck off and avoid spoilers.
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>>343742968
He was always going to be an old man. That was stated in VLR. But it looked like he was kind of handsome, with long hair.
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>>343743041
ever17 did the VLR twist, ZTD was different
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>>343742398
Delta simply cloned himself sometime before the Decision Game, so two Deltas (as Q and as Zero) lets the Transporter become more relevant.
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>>343743067

Yeah, I didn't have a problem with Mr White being the villain. But that "BTW GUYS THIS GUY WAS HERE THE WHOLE TIME BUT YOU JUST DIDN'T NOTICE AND STUFF" twist was the stupidest shit.
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>>343743141
Ever17 did every twist imaginable for this kind of story.
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>>343743141
ZTD is Sharin no Kuni twist.
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>>343743204
if blick winkel had been able to do anything else but look from someone else's eyes the twist wouldn't have happened in the first place
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>>343742126
Eric was extremely suspicious, and always on edge
Mira was in on it
The other participants didn't know
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>>343743173
It's not that bad. It's reasonable that they ignore a deafmute cripple when they're trying to solve puzzles or have a conversation/argument/Mexican Standoff
Probably would have been handled better with more time and funding.
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>>343743173
I'm the opposite. I thought the twist was decent (not great), but Delta himself was a boring omniscient fuck with conveniently ambiguous motives and mind hacking powers.
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>>343743264
is it good and translated?
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>>343743141
Even if they were a bit different, they were still similar. The reveal was that the player perspective wasn't who you thought it was, and as soon as it happened in ZTD, I thought "wow, they're really pulling this again?"
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