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Where did the "japanese audio is too expensive/legally complicated!" meme come from?
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penny pinching jews/dubfag pleb fanbase
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Depending on how poorly though out the licensing deal is for the JP recordings, it's not really a meme.

I'm not buying that it's impossible for Atlus to do anything about it, though
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Licenses aren't even a thing. If your company made something you can use it everywhere around the world.

You pay your composers for music and the voice actors for voices, once you have those in the game you're free to use them worldwide
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>>343734406
Atlus US are cheap fucks and has a fanbase full of dub apologists
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>>343734406
The company itself.

We're looking into dual audio. Aw shucks, guys. Looks like it can't be done.
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>>343734406
Shills and normies
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Do Americans watch foreign movies dubbed?
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Why is everyone on /v/ so retarded? It's just a fucking excuse not to include it. It's better than saying "Fuck you, we don't want to".
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>>343734406
They've realized that the general public who purchases their games don't care about dual audio.
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>>343736786
They don't watch foreign movies.
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>>343736786
>Do Americans watch foreign movies
No
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>>343734406
It's not. Voice acting take that big of a chunk of game production in terms of money in Japan to begin with.

The whole licensing fees are small compared to revenue from sales anyway.
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>>343736875
Source? Evidence? Citation?
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>>343734406

It's a lie you autist.

They just don't want nips buying games from America, since vydia is more expensive in Japan
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>>343736795
Well why don't they? They already charge us 10 dollars more than anyone else for handheld games.
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>>343736436
I don't even know why they bothered saying that when it's clear they won't even try
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>>343736786
i remember there were quite a few complaints in the theatre when i went to see crouching tiger hidden dragon and people realized it was subbed
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>>343736953
Mostly It's because the only people who make a shitstorm about it are autistic people like you on /v/.
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>>343737098
Source?
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>>343736962
>implying nips will wait 8 months to import the game cheaper
by then they can get it used for 100 yen
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>>343737171
You're posting in one of those threads right now.
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>>343736786
No, they buy the rights to them and make butchered hollywood versions of them instead.
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>>343737198
Source that this is only happening here?
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If a shitty jew studio like Idea Factory can afford dual audio, a juggernaut like Atlus should be just fine.
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Someone made it up and in true 4chan fashion, everyone just repeats it as fact even though it has no basis or source to back it up.
It's the same shit that makes /m/ and /lit/ two of the worst boards here.
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>>343734406
>Where did the "japanese audio is too expensive/legally complicated!" meme come from?- 18 posts and 2 image replies shown.
when complete braindead idiots like AtlusUSA don't have any balls or sanity to come up to Atlus and ask to include being able to sell JP voices overseas in contract when Atlus hiring VAs.
AtlusUSA is too busy masturbating on their own shitty English VA they found in nearby hobo association.
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>>343737270
If you care so much about it, you can look it up for yourself.
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>>343736912
>Voice acting doesn't take that big of a chunk of game production in terms of money in Japan to begin with

Fixed.

>>343737098
/v/ is pretty big.
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>>343737328
Hey buddy, the burden of proof is on you.
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>>343737098
What? There's a ton of people complaining about it on youtube, the announcement page, on twitter, plenty of people care. The problem is that the same retards will buy the game anyway.
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>>343737329
>/v/ is pretty big.
/v/ isn't the target audience.
Plus they're probably not that big.
>>343737373
i don't give a shit.
Hell, i was one of the few people who liked Ashly Burch as Rise.
>>343737381
Exactly.
Nothing will change.
So why care?
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Don't believe Hardin's lies.
There's one of two reasons Atlus USA is still using English audio only:
>Atlus Co Ltd is mortified of reverse-importation and won't allow it no matter how long an embargo
>Atlus USA gets more budget overall to produce a dub than it would w/ JP-audio only, and can't/won't compromise because it'll mean lay-offs

It's shitty business practices either way and we the (foreign) customers get fucked in the ass for it.
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>>343737329
And autists like you are a pretty small segment
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>>343736212
This isn't true. Voice acting is done through agencies and there are contracts. It isn't done in-house, at least not for most companies.

Now, most publishers these days make it so they can reuse audio as much as they want without permission or extra charge, but Atlus presumably isn't doing it for some reason.
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>>343737438
That's not how it works anon. If you say that /v/ is the only community in the whole internet that cares about it, then I expect you to provide proof that corroborates that. If you're, however, unable to do that, then the least you could do is admit you're wrong and move on.
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>>343737438
/v/ doesn't need to be the target audience. It has enough people to sway public opinion.

Lots of sites have been affected by 4chan and its boards. /v/ is no expection. Heck the whole Gamergate started in /v/ (/pol/ as well but it was spearheaded in /v/).
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>>343737490
There's nothing more autistic than repeating things which you are doing.
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>>343737447
The first reason is why we won't get dual audio. Jp only is unthinkable because personafags are all the people you find in college anime clubs who watch anime dubbed.
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>>343734406
Are people really stupid to believe this?

It's a ATLUS game, how the American subsidiary is going to have a problem with licenses?
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>>343737646
Then why did Xenoblade Chronicles X sell so well despite /v/ talking shit about the censorship?
>>343737568
I don't care
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>>343737447
>Atlus USA gets more budget overall to produce a dub than it would w/ JP-audio only, and can't/won't compromise because it'll mean lay-offs
This can't be it, because Japanese-audio-only would never be on the table. Few people would buy their games if it were so. It's either English-only or dual audio.
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>shitty garage publishers translate and sell weeb VN and include JP voices
>Atlus USA, a 25 year old publisher who have turned a steady profit for much of that time, somehow cannot afford to pay a little extra for moonspeak
Bullshit.
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>>343737776
So you're admitting you are wrong? Okay, have a nice day.
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>>343737715
That was my First post this thread bud
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>>343734406
From history. It was a lot more true a decade or so ago, but most companies have begun negotiating international rights from the outset now eliminating the problem. Atlus and Atlus USA specifically seem to be the most behind the times.
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>Persona 4 Arena has dual audio
>Persona 4 Golden does not

?
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It's really simplre.

There's only two reasons and that is the majority of people prefer dubs and it prevents reverse importing because the playstation is not region locked.

Only reasons. There might be some other small thing like english VAs being in contract for guaranteed work that isn't placed in direct competition with JP VAs but that reasoning seems shaky at best.
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Why do weebs care so much about Japanese audio? Just play the fucking games, you goddamned degenerates. I think Russian sounds cool, but I don't change the audio to Russian for the games I play.
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>>343737914
If it matters so much to you, then sure, I admit defeat.
ya' daft cunt
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>>343737797
>Few people would buy their games if it were so. It's either English-only or dual audio.
Now here is a meme I would like someone to explain.
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>>343737921
They're behind the times on everything really. No PC ports, P4 Golden is still Vita exclusive even though a PS4 port would print money, and it took them until April of 2014 to put Persona 4 on PSN for PS3.

They're way too conservative for their own good.
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>>343737954
Do you watch foreign films dubbed?
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>>343737954
Not even for the Metro series?
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>>343737954
Why do you want to play a game set in Japan in English you dumb cunt?
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>>343734406
from people at localization companies who want to get their friends jobs
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>>343737951
There's no way in hell the people Atlus USA hires have the pull to make those sorts of demands. They aren't even union productions outside of Catherine.
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>>343737954
Consuming media in its original language when possible is preferable, no matter what its original language is. Even if you need subtitles or whatever to understand it.
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>>343737930
>Persona 4 Arena has dual audio
ArkSys localized the first P4A game.
As a result, Atlus shat itself and made it the only region-locked PS3 game in history.
Part of it had to do with being launched at almost the same time as the JP version, but you can't ignore that Atlus has some fucked-up policies in play.
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>>343737921
Don't kid yourself, if they didn't negotiate int rights the persona anime would have been dub only. The contracts allow for international usage I'll bet my bottom dollar. Atlus jp has just told the US subsidiary it ain't fuckin happening because:

1. We are filthy gaijin peasants and our sales mean jack shit to their moral moderator to protect the children of Amaterasu from our subhuman ways.

2. The imagined terror of reverse importation

3.who gives a shot about filthy gaijin anyway.
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>>343738059
Why are you so obsessed with hearing a language you don't understand you dumb cunt?
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>>343738157
I can kinda understand the logic behind being worried about Japan importing cheaper 'murrican copies of games... but how many Moonlanders would actually fucking bother? It would have to be even less than the amount of westerners that import Japanese games.
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>>343738157
Oh, I completely forgot about the whole region locked on PS3 thing.
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>>343738274
Because I'm not afraid of other countries cultures like the dumb american you are
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>FFXV has quad-audio
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>>343738450
Preordered the collectors edition even tho it might be bad
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>>343736876
this and this>>343737210

>tfw I love american movies yet none of them are made in jewhollywood so no one's seen them except art house nerds
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>>343738342
>not listening to gibberish makes me afraid of other cultures
You weebs are next level deluded
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>>343734406

Not a meme.
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>>343738630
Youre playing a game where they use Japanese honorfics in an English dub
And you're defending it
You're the fucking weeaboo here.
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>>343737954
>he didn't play the Witcher series in Polish
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>>343738630
Yes, that is what it means.

You would have to be terrified of other cultures to watch a Russian film dubbed in English, and a videogame is no different, especially when it's actually set in the country its made in and revolves heavily around that fact.
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>>343738279
Japan invented region-locking, after all. They probably reason that retaining even one sale is worth the investment.
Maybe things will change in 5-10 years when Sega puts someone new in charge of Atlus, but absolutely nobody at Atlus USA is going to support JP voices when it most likely means other employees will be laid off.
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>>343738686
>No you
Good to see you people haven't mentally moved past the 3rd grade
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>>343738816
>absolutely nobody at Atlus USA is going to support JP voices when it most likely means other employees will be laid off.
I don't see why this would be the case. The presence of Japanese audio would not impact the English dub in any way.
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>>343738852
He's got a point you know.
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>>343738808
>video games and movies are the exact same thing I swear
Kek
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>>343738816
Plenty of games have Japanese audio AND dubs. Even OTHER GAMES published by Fatlus.
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I'm glad atlus did this. it finally opened my eyes to how shit they and their games are. I shan't be purchasing another title from them in the future.
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>>343734406
Most people outside the internet prefer dubs to subs. If the game had subs it would sell less in america. This is objective fact.
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>>343734406
It came from contracts to protect the rights of acting workers. Localizing branches don't get as much as you think they do, and there's a lot of overhead that goes into releasing a game. If you don't like it, work on that moon.
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>>343738919
You're right, I better go watch as much subbed animes as I can to get all the weeaboo off me
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>>343738960
>Kek
Fuck off
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>>343738960
They are the same for the purposes of this argument. You're replacing one performance and set of actors with another, that happens to be inferior as well.
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>>343738960
What difference does it make in this context?
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>>343738816
Sega are also the ones who black listed the sale of the steam version of Valkria Chronicles in Japan so they would be forced to buy the more expansive PS4 remaster though
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>>343739069
Sorry, didn't realize that was your trigger word
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Turns out in Japan, most VAs have agency
these aren't small agencies either, most of the popular ones are large enough to have wikipedia pages
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>>343737954
>not playing stalker in Ukrainian

Get a load of this casual
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>>343737920
Sure. Keep telling yourself that.
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>>343738893
It would as a transition to JP-only.

>>343738980
>OTHER GAMES published by Fatlus
Name one first-party Fatlus game with moonspeak.
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>>343738013
>no PC ports
This is a good thing.
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>>343739102
>video game characters and real actors are the exact same thing I swear
KEK
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>>343738808
A video game is very different. A film is at most 3 hours. A game can last upwards of 20-30 hours. I don't want to hear someone yell japanese every time I make an attack or an enemy does something for 30 fucking hours.
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>>343739205
That #FE game that just came out?
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>>343739170
If you want to, go ahead and quote me and every post prior and I can screenshot it
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>>343739268
But you want to hear English actors say GO GET EM SENPAI and other shit like that for 30 hours?
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>>343737776
Because /v/ isn't always influential?

That's like saying I'm saying France is an influential country in the world, and you're pointing out cases where France hasn't won. Well no shit, even the USA fucks up.

/v/ isn't always influential but all it needs is one big example to show that it is. Influential doesn't mean it always is.
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>>343737181
No, this is an actual issue. This is why for a while anime Blu-rays were either not released in the states or were released years later. Whether it actually happens or not, companies are worried about Japanese people importing from America.
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Since some of you Americans hate Japan so much, don't play their games.

Go ahead and play exclusively American made games. That way you're being a patriot and helping your fellow American with sales.

You guys are some of the most inconsistent retards.
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>>343739383
At least I can understand that shit
I wasn't annoyed by "Behold my demons!" In SMT IV. But "yay su katsu bats ai" would have pissed me off
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>>343739205
>It would as a transition to JP-only.
Nonsense. The majority of players will always prefer English dubs no matter how worse they are. English dubs are going nowhere.

>>343739268
That's the worst possible reason you could give for them being different.
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>>343739482
I can understand importing a game to get it early, or if it's not coming out in your region at all, but who would import it from another country months later in a language they may or may not even understand to save a few bucks? Prices for games in Japan usually nosedive hard after a few weeks unless they're super fucking popular.
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>>343739379
I don't want to and I don't need to.

And you're showing how new you are to this board and site. Welcome to 4chan, lurk more and stop being a faggot.
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Why haven't you learned Japanese yet?
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>>343739585
Nice try but there's a difference between hating Japan and wanting to understand a language being spoken to you
If anything you weebs should learn Japanese since you're so obsessed with Japan
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>>343739585
Theres no reason to jump to extremes.
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>>343739710
playing backlog which has dual audio is more fun than spending years to learn language instead of playing videogames
if new game doesn't have it, that means I saved money for other game which has it.
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>>343739710
>learning japanese
What a waste of time. If I was going to learn a language I'd learn german or french or russian.

I am perfectly fine watching jap stuff subbed since it's such a stilted language anyway.
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What angered me most is that they charged 10 dollars more for their 3DS games yet they still never gave us dual audio. They claimed that for SMT4 it was more because of the speedy localization, but then what about every other fucking game after that? They just do because they know they can get away with it plus they have a retarded fan bases that defends their decisions.
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>>343739759
Grow some balls and admit you dislike that country. Stop being so politically correct. Since you hate something, just voice it out. No one believes your bullshit.

You can understand a language by reading the subs, retard. That's literally what subtitles are for.

Your claim about learning Japanese is a Red Herring.
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>>343739692
Oh ok, so you don't want proof you just want to pretend you're right because the possibility of you being wrong is too scary. Isn't that just like a libcuck
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>>343739710
Well anon, I'm left with three options:

>pirate all their shit, undub to fix it (free option, least effort)
>learn Japanese, buy from Japan (not free option, most effort)
>pirate all their shit, learn Japanese (free option, unneeded effort)
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>DUDE MORE OPTIONS ARE BAD LMAO
/v/, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>343739936
Oh so whenever I see subtitles I'm fluent in that language? Good to know
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>>343739941
You wouldn't know what proof is if it was shown in front of you.

>libcuck

Funny considering the idiot who's so weak and indecisive about the claims he's making.

Next time instead of saying "do X if you want to" don't be a cuck, just say "do X". There is no want. But you're too feminine to know this.

When is your bleeding day going to stop?
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>>343739156
Ys VIII is using literally whos for their VAing, I'll bet my left nut XSEED still will cite "Contract issues" as an excuse to force their shitty dubs on that.
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>>343740065
You're doing a strawman argument. Being fluent is more than just understanding a language. Fluency implies speaking or writing a language easily.

Of course for some idiot like you who's never learned another language, you can't tell the difference.
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>>343737754
>he doesn't watch anime in Russian dubs whenever possible
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reminder that dual audio in Atlus games considered to be a bloody miracle by AtlusUSA themselves.
that's the power of their denial.
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Why are dubfags tolerates here on /v/ but nowhere else? On /a/ and /tv/ I constantly see mods delete dubfag posts, why won't they do it here? Another proof that this is the worst board.
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>>343739384
if you think /v/ can do anything influential you are one stupid fucker
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>>343743486
well if you talk about dubs or anything thay dont like on /a/ they go and throw bitch fits
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>>343738502
Same, senpai.
I just want closure.
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>>343737954
dumb feelposter
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>>343737773
Because Atlus Co Ltd. is a completely different company than Atlus USA, even despite the fact that both are owned by SegaSammy, it won't negate that contracts don't float over.

Plus contracts that Atlus Co Ltd. have for the Japanese VOs aren't covered for anywhere else but Japan, which is short sighted and smart at the same time. Short sighted that it will stop some from buying it iof it doesn't have dual audio. Smart in that it stops importing as Japan sells games at extreme prices and they want to stop importing as it'll cut into their bottom line, this is a case where region locking benefits a small company like Atlus as they won't see money gained from imports.

Simple stuff if you don't think in basic black and white.
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>>343734406
Falcom apologists.
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>>343739607
So your ears have cancer.
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>>343737954
Triple A japanese actors vs niche non-union chicken feed paid actors.
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>>343734406

I don't know, but who gives a shit. I have CFW on all my consoles where it matters.
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>Persona 5 announced for China since video game ban relinquished there
>Atlus announces a Chinese Persona 5 will release close to the japan release
>jap dub with chinese subs instantly

So why can they do this, but not cater to English fans who want the same thing?

What underlying real reason is it? AtlusUSA just smug pricks they don't cae and "MUH DUBS ARE GOOD" immature backlash to people wanting subs or not enough time?

What is it? The only reason Persona 5 is delayed for English audience is for them to make their english dub for people. Okay, I get that. But why is it literally "Impossible" according to AtlusUSA to have a Japanese Dub in the games options with English Subs? What's the real reason?
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>>343747880
Of course, why not find an even smaller company with even less budget to bitch about? Sky's the limit right?
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>>343738008
There are a very large amount of literal retards who won't play a game if it's JP audio only. The common excuse is that "My ears will bleed" because apparently every single Jp voice actor is a screeching banshee like all the JAV porn they watch
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>>343749492

And some of you people want to back to the days of Nintendo/Early Sony holding games hostage to the Gaijin West
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>>343749892
Back then VA wasn't a thing in videogames. If it was you'd the same amount of bitching as today.
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>the localization sells the best by a landslide
>Oh sorry, we can't match the original voice budget because plebs will buy trash dubs anyway. So eat up!
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>>343738502
>>343738450
I played the Platinum Demo and only that demo because I missed the one before, and aside from the archaic nature of the combat and tedious open world running around as expected of the open world meme, once you get good its actually really good.

The animations are top notch and whenever the game doesn't have an evade/ dodge animation because its locked into doing an action you queued up prior, Noctis phasing out of reality still manages to be a convincing evasion maneuver because you can continue an attack combo after he phases back in. A shame about spell casting though. I didn't know I'd be manually throwing firebombs dark souls style.

I played on Japanese dub and it fit Noctis better for me because he looks Asian. And that I also expected the boyband to appear but they didn't.
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>>343749492
China has way better taste than Murica in games, they fucking love Falcom and SRW.
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>>343750357
Small note: the "bomb" magic is just one type of magic. There's another type that is tied to some spoilery stuff, so they haven't shown it in action yet.
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>>343734406
I'm not even a native English speaker but outside the western realm it is very rare to see a Japanese RPG have good English voice acting that is not cringey

Few exceptions like the souls series and Nier , lost odyssey

Everything else is Steve Blum or yuri shekelhawl , overly annoying girl a , trying to sound normal but upset girl a , overly annoying girl b and "I'm trying to sound young despite being in my 40s" boy a


Give
Me
Japanese
Audio
At least then I don't know if it is bad or good and not care because it just sounds right to my ears
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>>343734406
I think this is a result of a lot of the strikes for Voice Actors.

Though I don't remember the exact details of them.
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>there are people that refuse to play Persona 5 because they aren't given the option to hear a language they don't speak

If that's seriously what's going to stop you from playing this game, then you obviously weren't that bothered in the first place.
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>>343737070
because as the PR guy, john hardin says things to hype people up even though he know's there's 0% chance of it happening
it's also possible he's so mentally challenged that he doesn't realize how unlikely things are like the rest of AUSA does, like when he insisted P5 would be out 2015
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>>343749892
>holding games hostage to the Gaijin West
I have a feeling if they did do that we would get Japanese dub.
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>>343750856
>what is integrity and standards for $500 Alex?
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>>343734406
>Where did the "japanese audio is too expensive/legally complicated!" meme come from?

From butthurt sjw who hate anime and want weebs to suffer.
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>>343736962
>They just don't want nips buying games from America, since vydia is more expensive in Japan
this was an issue with P4U and P4U2 because they had simple menus regardless of language and you could easily play a foreign language version if you didn't care about the story
so they region locked P4U and in P4U2 they made the japanese audio almost insufferable to use
P5 is a lengthy game that requires lots of reading and cannot be played just from understanding menus; even with complete japanese audio, it would not be nearly worth the effort to import and play with english text
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>>343738157
>ArkSys localized the first P4A game
P4U was still localized by Atlus jewSA, they just localized it earlier in development because ArcSys cares more about releasing their fightan with translations than Atlus does
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>>343749492
THE YELLOW PEOPLES WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO FILTHY WHITE GAIJIN
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>>343749492
persona games are localized and published by sony in chingchong land because they know it's popular and makes them mad cash
atlus USA has less people that put in less effort and have lower standards
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>>343734406
stupid ass contracts. It's the same reason you almost never see music from a movie or series in the games.
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>>343734406
>Where did the "japanese audio is too expensive/legally complicated!" meme come from?
I've never heard of this Atlus related meme before on my Nintendo console.
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>>343739482
That's what happens when you charge 8000yen for 3 episodes of a show. The niche market life is hard
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>>343752123
Well if Nintendo have enough money to force devs to alter their game completely, what's a bit more budget for those weeb bucks right?
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>>343734406
aside from full motion video, Audio is generally the largest consumer of storage size in a game.

having multiple audio languages in a game can increase it's overall single-language size by upwards of 60% per language.

traditionally, storage size for physical games has just not been there to accommodate that.
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>there are "people" who think the nips don't dub shit
It's okay when Japan does it, I guess.
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I get HARD. I get absolutely soaking WET when idiotic weebs get ASSMAD over people enjoying the English voice options in video games and Anime. They are made for a reason, for people who enjoy understanding the characters and contain many passionate performances. OH NO MY WAIFU SEIYUU FROM JAPAN WHO WILL NEVER EVER CARE ABOUT ME OR ISNT IN THE GAME ANYMORE PRE ORDER CANCELLED!

And every SINGLE ONE OF YOU is like it too you look DOWN on people for making a simple perferential CHOICE that does not AFFECT YOU at all! Friends invite me to watch Anime or play a Japanese video game and I ask "Is it in English as well?" and you can always just hear the DISAPPOINTMENT in their voice as they say yes as if I RUINED their lives or something. The Spite FULFILLS ME.

You spend so much time DEFENDING an industry that does not give TWO FUCKS about you on an anonymous IMAGE BOARD. Japs don't give a FUCK what you think or what you think yet you throw your money at a over glorified voice acting industry thats over SATURATED with the same 4 voices that they use just to launch MUSIC CAREERS to take more money from all you neet SHUT INS. Go die of dehydration after you fap to your voice actress shrine one too many times please. PLEASE.
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I really didn't know how to feel about this.
I usually don't like dubs and never bither with them, but I actually enjoyed most of the atlus game dubs I played(DeSu2, p3/4 smt4).
The only one that I really disliked was the first desu, but all in all I liked them.
I actually enjoyed Yuri the most in p4, I don't get why people have such a hateboner for him I thought he did a great job and was a good fit for yosuke.
Hell I like him more then his jp VA, although I only know Yuri as Yosuke and have not heard any other of his work since I don't bother with dubs much.
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>doesn't understand japanese
>Holds the opinion that Japanese va is superior

Weebs ladies and gentlemen. I hope anime and this weebshit company get destroyed one day.
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>>343753897
I know Jap and think that Jap VA -> dub VA.

Then again I play the jap version so I'm not one of those faggots constantly complaining about dub only while doing nothing about it.
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>>343753403
I enjoy Japanese dub because I enjoy understanding characters and really enjoy the CV's passionate performances.
I don't have a waifu seiyuu but Kyon-kun denwa's brother is closest to that.

It affects everyone of us because >>343753821
2/3rds of year hoping we won't get Ashley Burch or Yuri Lowenthall again.

No anon, the industry does give two fucks about us anonymous buyers, because these days most Japanese third parties reach out to the rest of the world to buy their games to offset a limited population's demand at home.

Seems as if English Voice Actors are being used to cover the 8 month delay. Right Hardin?
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>>343739660

>Prices for games in Japan usually nosedive hard after a few weeks unless they're super fucking popular.

And Cyber Sleuth is still 80 dollars somehow.
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>>343753403
While I do agree that a lot animefans are elitist for no reason especially on /a/.
I do think it is a bit hypocritical to say that.
I mean how many times a day do you see shit like.
>kek nintoddlers
>pcucks
>sonyggers
>>343753897
Saying it is a weeb only thimg is bullshit.
I live in the netherlands and literally noone bothers with the dutch dub.
The only reason why we even have dutch is for children who can't read or can't read fast enough to follow.
Also the reason why I dislike eng dubs of jap games is because the eng voice actor still try to talk like an anime character, but that usually never works out because talking like an anime character in english sounds weird as hell.
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>>343755162
I bought cyber sleuth last week for like €44
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>>343755395

Well, we were talking about Japanese prices, so it should go without saying that I was talking about the Japanese version's pricing. English copies are certainly much cheaper, but I'm trying to avoid them because of the shit localization.
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>>343734406
Japanese people barely understand how to code, the idea of taking someone else's existing code and adding an additional option is asking for way too fucking much.

Props to Sony for realizing this and getting Mark Cerny up in their shit. Counter example: Nintendo
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>>343737954
>no cheeki breeki
end yourself
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>>343755469
>trying to avoid them because of the shit localization.
Yeah I was kinda suprised how many memes, typos and blatant mistakes there were in the localization.
In the game tou sometimes choose you're characters dialogue, but sometimes the options were just 1 one sentence divided in 3 parts.
Also I don't know if this was also true in the jap version, but sometimes you get the same response no matter what option you pick even if it doesn't make sense with the option you choose.
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>>343755919

>but sometimes you get the same response no matter what option you pick even if it doesn't make sense with the option you choose.

I assume that was a programming error in localization, I've never seen any bitching about it in any of the stuff I've read about the game from Nips, but I never went out of my way to look for it either. Unless you know Japanese, there's probably even more mistakes than you know too, like "Galacta Park". I don't mind playing games in English as long as the localizations are good, but damn.
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>>343749492
Many reasons, but two big ones are

1. It's Atlus themselves making the port, not Atlus USA. Different company and thus they hold the contracts for things like Japanese VOs that likely contained language in there for things like a Chinese port.

2. China, if you haven't heard, is the big Golden Goose for all media companies right now. A massive population that, until recently, haven't gotten a chance to get all the frivolous products that we enjoy. Disney, NBC Universal, UFC, WWE, Nintendo, Sony, and many many more are trying to "put their flag on the moon" first and become the hot product for the Chinese Population that will rake in tons of money. So they will invest as much as they can to gain as much profits as possible. Basically, other countries can go suck a dick in the eyes of investors.
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>>343739023
But if it had dubs and subs...???
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>>343755324
>I live in the netherlands and literally noone bothers with the dutch dub.

It's the same in Sweden, only children watch things dubbed, pretty much every foreign movie or tv show is subbed here.
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