Zero Time Dilemma
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TEN MONTHS
http://www.strawpoll.me/10642144
Vote for best boy.
I really like Q's designBoth of them
>>343449159
Reminder that there are2 Carlos in every timeline
>>343449159I-I just wanted to save my friends
>>343449232
uchikoshi does it again
I've been really enjoying discussing, theorizing and funposting in these threads with all of you fellow ZEanons over the past few days. I'm glad we could all band together one more time.
Q(the 124 years old one)
The biggest surprise in the game is how Akane has great hips and ass. Fuck Mira and her eye candy shit
Reposting cause thread died
Blick-Winkel here.
Friendly reminder the ZTD stream will start next Friday the usual time
>>343449336
Shut the fuck up.Same, anon. It really has been fun.
>>343449232
Yeah, but what does Virtues Last Reward mean?
>there are people who didn't like hot dog joke
>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times
Are we just gonna continue pretending Akane didn't organize the death of 3 people in cold blood in 999 and was ready to fly off the fucking handle if anything hurt her Jumpy in ZTD?
At least Mr. COMPLEX was a smug shit to her about it.
Is carlos gay?
>super handsome
>muscular
>blonde
>'no time for love life'
>loves his little sister
>interested in Junpei
>>343449052
I really liked Zero's monologues. It was the most eloquent bitching and whining I've ever heard.
>IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS!!! SEAN WAS MEANT TO LIVE!! HE WAS A GOOD BOY!!
I want to FUCK Carlos
>>343449434
How did you like the game?
>>343449349
It's a best boy thread, not a best girl thread.
>>343449521
The biggest homo
H-How did she survive anon?
>>343449521
Definitely.
>>343449432
I unexpectedly loved Phi's ass too, great outfit choice to emphasize it. If only she realized what goodness she has down there instead of focusing solely on her fluctuating-sized boobs.
>>343449515
I stopped after three times what did I miss? Does Sigma start crying or something?
>Your decisions can materialize us
>materialize us
>us
Reminder that old Phi helped Delta organize the decision game.
Reminder that one of them is Akane and Aoi's grandparent.
Maybe even both of them.
>>343449528SEANWAS 12
HE LOVED TO READ THE BOOKS
>>343449515
>>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times>tfw Sigma and Diana probably had lots of sex in that shower
Violence with children makes me very uneasy.So the whole Q is a robot makes me feel much better about the whole thing.
>>343449673
>she didn't even realizeshe was giving birth to twins
>18 INCHES
>>343449673It's okay, her insides can expand to the size of the moon.
>doesn't have anyone to go to prom with
>goes with his cat
Why is this man so based?
Just finished it.
What a shitty ending, senpaitachi. Hold me.
Can someone explain the Q / Sean shit that went down? I beat the game and went through the files, and I still don't get it at all.
Question regarding something that always bugged me in the VLR Q Room:
How was I supposed to find the squares that released part of the walls with the shitty cube? I literally guessed and they all came out after some trial and error. It seemed like Minesweeper, but not at the same time.
>>343449852
Read the files amd stop using ebonics if you dont want your post to be ignored and discarded
>>343449528
There's something about this Zero, man
>Goddamnit fucking shit Akane why are you such an hypocrite bitch, Mira go chop Junpei to pieces and bring them to me, let's teach her a lesson
In another timeline
>Holy fucking shit Junpei propose to her already, shit, Sean time to set the four gatling guns we prepared
In another timeline
>I can't handle this melodramatic romance, where's that gas mask
>>343449956
It was minesweeper without mines and not counting diagonals I believe.
Just started this. God the animation is awful, but the banter is tip top.
>you're getting there in age, sigma
>Hey sigma, try dying.
>oh, a vent. Phi, you're up.
>I won't repear myself. My breasts are D cups.
>Akane's glare when junpei tells her to access the m-field
>someone likes cake too much
>chop your arm off, asshole
>Junpei still cracks awful jokes
>turbo hitler literally say "you could have prevented this"
I bet Mira is the heart ripper.
>>343449852
read the files faget
>>343449825
Sexual assault with children makes me very uneasy.So the whole Q is a robot makes me feel much better about the whole thing.
>>343449825>no blood on Q/Sean whenever he died
>I thought it was simple censorship since he was a child
>nope, he's a super-tough robot who was faking every death and can only be damaged by alien metal
>>343449904In 2011, Sean was a kid who was dying, but who was very, very smart. Delta kept visiting him in the hospital, bringing him books, and the boy would tell him what he thought. Delta offered to give the boy a job after he was cured, but he died because of the Mira / Akane's parents / Eric's mom shenanigans.
can anybody upload the premium booklet to some filesharing site or at least post the story portions?
Holy shit what was with all the packing puzzles and cube puzzles?
>>343450039
Which team do I follow?
GIVE ME
SIGMA AND DIANA
DOUJINS NOW
>>343449159
>YEAH, but then I wouldn't have met you guys
>>343450149
sigma and phi doujins WHEN
FBRdeath rate = 100%
Radical 6 death rate = 75%"Fanatic" Bio R
75% of 8 billion is 6 billion
FORESHADOWING
I just ended the game, why the fuck Mira killed Junpei? I don't get any of that.
>>343449232
fuck me
>>343450149
>not diana and her drunk wifebeater husband doujins
>still no porn
Some Anon in the last thread asked what the best moments were:
Serious:>Phi alone at DCOM
For fun>Shoot me
>>343450337
do not bully the diana
>>343449478
i still don't know this
i get the japanese title though
>>343450161
>doesn't even get a thankyou for being a meat shield for a girl he hardly knows
Carlos had a hard life
>>343449521
Definitely. Best husbando.
>>343450161
he just wanted to hang
>>343450295
Maybe cuz she's a literal serial killer.
well?
>>343450101>>Delta offered to give the boy a job after he was cured>there is an alternate timeline where the snail didn't fuck everyone's shit up
>Sean got better
>Delta gave him that job
>Sean became a Free the Soul cultist
>he was the one who killed Alice's father
:^)
When's the game with the actual conclusion?
Instant fucking refund.
>>343450386
Get creative and make it yourself.
>>343449515
>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times
What happens if you do? Any screens?
>>343450295
Use spoilers tags anon.
It's becauseshe's a psycho killer,That's all there is to it, I think.ques ca se
>>343450387
Best moment was clearly pushing the "Do not push" button
>>343450386
never say never
>>343450295
because she is theHeart Ripper. BTW why was the whole team cool with her being the killer in Payoff 2 ending? She really fucked up some lives beside killing them in different histories for fun
>>343450101
I get that part, but I don't understand whyEric and Mira called Sean "Q", yet after the reveal, you're given a file that states that everyone has always called him Sean, and that Q is what they call Delta.
Also, how doesDelta even fit into the story? It seems to me that you're playing as him (like when you make decisions for the characters), but how come he appears in person in a few scenes? Do the characters see him coming and going?
>>343450501
No Gab, you are a dog and that is bestiality.
>>343450507
Delta doesn't exist if the snail doesn't exist.
>>343450546
I've already fapped to both the pictures more than enough
>>343449598
Just as much as everyone else it would seem. I liked the ride, but was disappointed with the destination.
>>343449904
Read the files.Delta was there the whole time. Nobody never referred to Sean as Q.
And there is a SHITLOAD of foreshadowing to it, including:
Saying "Sean" to Eric
You can see his shadow sometimes
Mira referring to "old man", but the camera pans over Gab
Announcer saying Q is dead, while Sean is still seen alive
Gab's medicine was for him
Orher teams scream "Eric! Mira!"
"Who would anyone kill Q?"
People not questioning when announcer says Q, but freaking out when they see his body
"Together we are ten. Delta"
Mira shooting twice. You can even hear Q fallinf out of chair.
>>343450387
Serious
>D2
For fun
Anything with Carlos, really.
>>343450161
6 BILLION CARLOS
Best boy. No question.Thanks god he had no face "animation"
His VA(both) were too feminine though and when I saw his portrait in the study room I was afraid he would be a reverse trap.
>>343450392
I want to punch and fuck Diana in front of her friends!
>>343450532
Sorry, I forgot. I'll delete the post.But my question was how she wasn't sleeping, and how she found Junpei.
>>343450584
do they actually call him Q? I don't think I recall that, the player just assumes he's Q because he is the 3rd Q team member
>>343450161
>It's just a prank bro
>>343450584when they where talking to Q in every scene they were talking to the old man
>>343450714
>"I'm interested in you, Junpei"
After finishing the game, I feel bad for Diana remembering that she chose tolet her daughter burn to death.
>>343450542
I only thought Sigma in that scene was pretty funny.>Maybe there is a bomb and pushing the button will disable it!
The setup itself was meh.
>>343449478
>>343450435
"Will you prove your Virtue and choose "Ally"? Or will you choose 'Betray" and send your companions to their Last Reward?"
THE FUCK?1?
Why is no one mad at Mira at the end? Why arent they immediately subduing her?
She is at fault for all this shit.Also how come Delta got live a 124 years, why do we get so little info about him
>>343449515
>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times
I'm sorry, what?
>>343450802
>Akane is actually Carlos and Junpei's daughter
>>343450724
I could have misinterpreted it but didn'tDeltasay she wasundrugged? Or was that only the amnesia one.
Finished the game, ending felt pretty flat but the adventure, with all its twists and turns, was great.
I hate this feel.
Who else spoiled theDelta is Zero and he was always standing theretwist bygetting the Perceptive Ending by accident?
>>343450876
Too complex for you to understand.
>>343450838
>setup itself was meh
But that's exactly it, seeingDiana do this really fucking derpy face as she presses the button, goes "HEH?", Phi's expression and suddenly a big nuclear explosionwas just too fucking hilarious that I couldn't stop laughing for the next ten minutes.
>>343450661
Correction.Sean's body
Also, when Zero says Q is their leader, Mira says "Are you kidding me?"
And the camera sometimes panned in a really strange ways in Q fragments. Like when they're cutting chains.
The game never contradicted itself. It simply made you assume
>>343450582
They weren't cool with it. Read the files.
>>343450876
This, and does fucking Eric not know that shekilled his mom
>>343449478
Virtue refers to what one has when they are virtuous which is to show high moral standard. To be ethical. To be a good person.
If one is Virtuous in the AB game then they will get betrayed. They will die. Their last reward is death.
Virtue's Last Reward refers to the death one receives should they choose to ally. It's a subtle hint to the player what will happen most of the time they ally as well as a way of naming the game almost literally "Death".
>>343450981
how do you even get it by accident without getting spoiled on the internet?
>>343450714
>Carlos is Dianas husband
>we know he has rapist tendencies with akane
>>343450981I actually thought Delta was supposed to be me the player so Zero would have been the player.
>>343450802
"The more you resist the more I want to put it in"
what did he mean by this
>>343451059
Read.
The.
Files.
>>343450661I never noticed Sean still alive when the announcer said Q was dead. That said, did any of the characters realize or address the fact that Sean wasn't even on the board? And why is the status screen of Q just a picture of some circuits?
How's the PC port, guys?
>>343451054
OK senpai
>>343451075
No it isn't, the last reward is the good ending
>>343451092
I thought Delta may have been Q's(Sean) real name.
>>343450708
I was so convinced he was going to be a young Phi. His voice was feminine and also the way he acted, especially when Eric tells him and Mira the story about his mother. The decal on his helmet also looks like the hair clip Phi wears in VLR.
>>343451092
Dostranded pairand just enterdeltafor shit and giggles.
>>343451130
He has rapist tendencies
>>343449850
I don't understand
>>343451110
This would be a good twist actually.
>>343451176
>carlos say's if he dies from shifting he'll kill jumpei
>get's shot up by machine guns
>doesn't kill jumpei
I really thought he was going to be the one who dismembered him
PS TV support WHEN
>>343451176
didnt have any issues with it
>>343450760
Oh that's right, I completely forgot about that. I think he said he has amnesia, so he never really says his name. You're right, I just assumed he was Q
>>343450876
It's not her fault. It was the snail's fault.
>>343451275
ME TOO.I already knew that he wasn't young Phi because I got spoilered early on with the name "Sean", but I really really wanted it to be true
Somebody for the love of god tell me what happens if you get into the shower more than 10 times I don't want to replay another goddamn puzzle room
>>343450981
I went to get that ending immediately after D2 and just didn't know what to make of it. I thought it was a joke ending.
>>343451276
This is what I did and I didn't understand what just happened. I assumed they hadshot the player and that it'd get revealed elsewhere that Delta got shifted with ??? or something like that.
>>343451092
First, I tried "Q",thinking that was Sean's name. The message said something like "That's not Q's full name".
As soon as the name Delta appeared, I tried to input that in the decision, and I got that spoilerific ending.
>>343451317
One of the famitsu pages said he went to prom with his cat.
>>343451152
>That said, did any of the characters realize or address the fact that Sean wasn't even on the board?That's precisely why Eric is SO suspicious of him throughout the whole game. Also EVERYONE is suspicious of him during the initial coin flip but none of them remember that and 99 percent of players forget that when everyone on C and D starts talking about how they know Q.>And why is the status screen of Q just a picture of some circuits?Because it's Q as in Delta. He doesn't have a doll on the wall in the study just like how Sean doesn't have an X pass and thus isn't on the status screen.
>>343451131
how? the menu after the ending doesnt let you access the files
>>343451152
Because otherwise you would'verevealed who Q is. Even Crash Keys twitter omitted Participant 4
>did any of the characters realize or address the fact that Sean wasn't even on the board?
Eric was constantly saying thatSeanis suspicious as fuck. And the names always appear after a character died.
>>343451276
I also did this because I was stuck and trying everything.
>Open the status menu afterthe twins are born
>Q and Phi are alive
>>343451682
just pick a part of the game and enter it
>>343450030
Don't forget the way he talked when Mira was present
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I_5si-fDcos
>>343451128I also thought this. I also thought it meant Sigma was my dad and thus god or some shit...
>>343451545
Nothing. It was a joke, damnit.
But still, do it.
For Diana.
>>343451578
I actually thought the ending was a 4rd wall breaking one myself. A blick winkel type moment for this game.
>>343449052
I'm 12 hours in and I think its the worst zero escape.
The other games grabbed my attention and didn't let go till the end. Here I'm just going through the motions and waiting for real shit to hit the fan. Also Q team a shit, the other 2 games had meh characters but here I'm forced to stick with the 3 worst characters for 1/3rd of the game. Not just that but Carlos is lame, Junpei is an asshole now and Akanes a bitch.
>>343451968
Also thought this.
But then he says something in latin (don't remember what is was)and I just thought:
Did I just spoil myself? What the hell.
>>343449528
>>343450030
>IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS!!! SEAN WAS MEANT TO LIVE!! HE WAS A GOOD BOY!!
>>Goddamnit fucking shit Akane why are you such an hypocrite bitch, Mira go chop Junpei to pieces and bring them to me, let's teach her a lesson
>>Holy fucking shit Junpei propose to her already, shit, Sean time to set the four gatling guns we prepared In another timeline
>>I can't handle this melodramatic romance, where's that gas mask
Sounds like something that pic related would say.
>>343451176
Does it run on toasters?
When 999 and VLR come out on Steam I may buy all three of them.
>>343452064
>Carlos is lame
Keep playing fuccboi
>>343452064
Well you should get out of this thread before someone SNAKE IS ZERO
Zero is Delta
Phi and Delta are the children of Sigma and Diana, who were sent back in time to 1904 using Alien technology
Phi was then sent to 2008
Zero/Delta trapped everyone to cause the circumstances under which he would be born and to instill in them the beleif that the future can be changed in order to prevent a terrorist attack in the future
Mira is a Serial Killer and killed Eric's mother, who took the wrong path because of a snail, which caused Akane's parents to kill themselves due to a wrongful accusation, which prevented Sean (the helmet kid) from being saved by akane's dad.
Zero/Delta visited the genius Sean in hospital and recreated him in a Quantum computer after his death.
I really loved the game despite it being really crap in the animation and graphics department. Can you emulate the older ones on PC or some shit?
>>343451959
Fuck you I thought there was going to be some kind of bonus dialogue for being persistent
>>343452231
See that's the problem. I have to keep playing and despite being half way through the game he's still meh.
>>343452275
Yes?
How the fuck did Delta even know he was born in that facility? This knowledge alone triggered the events of this entire game, but the fact that he knows is kinda strange.
>>343452198
Would explain his eyes. Bet he was a whiner the whole 124 years of his life.
>>343452373He mindhacked Sigma at birth
>>343452275
Volume 4 confirmed
>>343452275
>which prevented Sean (the helmet kid) from being saved by akane's dad.
The surgeon was somebody else. He boarded the cab instead of Akane's father who got arrested.
>>343452097
Yeah, the latin was the true spoiler.
What pisses me off is that it didn't need to show that possibility in the flowchart. It's just an easter egg.
>>343450501
I wonder what it feels like to watch a clone of yourself get laid while you're stuck in a dog
>>343452373M I N DH A C KProbably just meme field shenanigans
>>343452373
probably muh mindhack somewhere along the way. Or maybe the transporter researchers could tell where/when he came from
Do Sigma, Diana and Phi get a happy ending? Didn't see anything about them in the files.
Did you support the games devs or did you pirate it?
>>343452286
Your fault for hyping yourself up.
See? That's the problem with /v/. People set up really specific expectations and then get disappointed when game doesn't meet them.
>that cringeworthy scene with jumpei beating up carlos to bond like some shit from persona 4
>that cringe ending scene where all the characters do a one liner in response to the world being doomed "8 billion people die? SCREW THAT"
>>343452198
>>343452387
/r/ edit of that wojak with Delta.
>>343452373
It's socomplexthat he had no time to explain.
>>343452460
Do you or anybody remember what he says? Iam too lazy to start my DS now.
>>343452579
that ending scene was really bad.
>>343452575
stop ruining my dreams anon
>>343452373
COMPLEX
>>343452556
I this sells even 100,000 copies i'll eat my hat
Deltain a nutshell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wisHcuBzTCM
>>343452614
Audentem Forsque Venusque iuvat.
"Both love and luck help the bold".
Why was Zero so intent on bullying Diana, but not Sigma?
>>343450273
oh shit nice catch
also, want to hear everyone's theories on where the fuck Kyle is. Most solid one so far to me is that he'sGab, and the player character, who previously inhabited Gab, was set free and allowed to act as the morphogenetic field during the previously unknown events of ztd.
more likeI refuse to believe unca uchi just discarded that plot point entirely just fuck my shit up
>>343452556
Took part in Operation Bluebird, you bet your ass I wasn't going to pirate the game we got from it
>>343452556
I pirated it. Glad I did.
>>343452579
I bet Kazutaka wrote that scene
>>343452556
I bought it on steam myself
>>343452556
Well they got my $40 on release.
But at this point, people pirate purely for cost instead of things like DRM and shit.
>>343452779
Because it's fun to bully Diana.
>>343452556
I pirated the PC version and am still awaiting my watch version due to Amazon.
>>343452765
I like remembering latin phrases, but fuck that one.
>>343452724
S-SNAILS AND SHIT
>>343451756
That's pretty neat
>>343452696
No. Get down to Earth and accept harsh reality. I bet you were one of those "I'll off myself after playing the greates game that will ever be made : MGS V!" people.
>>343452923
Checked
>>343452579
>that cringeworthy scene with jumpei beating up carlos to bond like some shit from persona 4
are you retarded
>>343452387
>"Left, why do you look so much more handsome and trustworthy than me, as if people would pick ally just by seeing your face?"
>"Why am I named like a goddamned Greek letter? What kind of faggot fratboy must my father have been?"
>"THEY KILLED LEFT, IT'S NOT FAIR! I'LL CHANGE MY NAME TO SOMETHING LESS RETARDED LIKE BROTHER AND FOUND A CULT TO CREATE A BETTER HUMANITY!"
>"I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS TERRORIST IS, BETTER KILL OFF 75% OF HUMANITY INSTEAD OF MIND-HACKING THE PRESIDENT INTO CARPET-BOMBING SYRIA OR SOME SHIT!"
>"MY MOTIVATIONS ARE COMPLEX, DON'T QUESTION ME NORMIE REEEEEEEEEE"
>>343452937
Many keks were had during this game, I just forgot them cause I marathonned the shit out of it.
>>343452779
because she is a used up whore
>>343451130
Wait a second, at what point did Carlos say this? I've played through most of the game (and know most of the major plot twists).
And why did he do that to Akane? I mean, I never thought Carlos would be the one reviewers were talking about when they were complaining about an "Attempted Rape" scene...
>>343452556
Bought the 3DS version and loved it, but I think I'll pirate the PC version whenever I'll feel like replaying it. I'm not such a saint as to double-dip.
I thought ZTD was pretty neat
>>343453097
>reviewers were talking about when they were complaining about an "Attempted Rape" scene
Who would have guessed?
>>343452990
>MGS V
God damn I will never forget the disappointment this game brought me. I was disappointed in how Delta turned out, but the rest of ZTD was really satisfying. MGS V just repeatedly was not satisfying
>>343452813
>Russian coat of arms
Every time
>>343453017
I know it's a jap trope. But it actually happens in persona 4 with MC and youske
>>343452556
Supported it so much, I bought it twice, Once on 3DS (Fuck playing on it though, hurts my eyes) and again on Steam.
Please refrain from discussing ztd until I have a chance to play through vlr, thanks.
>>343452937
Best sequence in the game. Felt like 999 again, with Jumpy protecting Akane, and her acting all damsel in distress.
I'm really pissed that there were no "Jumpy" and "Kanny" in this game by the way. Apparently they are in the japanese script, but whoever localized it took it out.
>>343453097He was just fooling around
>>343453220
but that's not what the scene in ZTD was about at all
>>343453243
Edgy
So was the secret ending from VLR just basically retconned out of existence? Like, we just pretend it never happened, since every single plot point that was brought up in it ended up being dropped?>Kyle never went back with Sigma
>Clover and Alice never mentioned again
>Phi being an 'X-factor' and being unable to tell ? what happened at the test site because it would cause the future to be locked (despite there only being one possible, extremely specific set of circumstances that leads to VLR's timeline which is the only one where they could be standing on the moon in the first place)
>? going back or existing whatsoever, because the manipulator forcing people to pick crazy choices was eventually revealed to be MINDHACKS with ? never showing up either
Honestly it makes me sad to think of all the aborted plot threads from VLR. I thought this one was meant to clear everything up.
>>343453243
Is there any significant meaning to the matryoshka alongside thetruth is invisbleline?
Should have thrown a lot of red flags given the status screen.
>>343451478
diana has a lot of greek in her
>>343453289
There was Jumpy (Junpei-kun) from Akane, but no Kanny from Junpei.
>>343453243
Oh dear
>>343451756
>it's true
UCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>343452556
I supported it and bought a copy
>>343453029
>"How could she KICK me, she was supposed to be afraid of my MIND HACKing powers"
>"You can't shoot me, I DINDU NUFFIN, REALLY. It's not like I'm the leader of some evil cult"
>>343453097
Healing room
When he was not talking about his sister he was talking about Junpei, and when he was not talking about Junpei he was gonna be murdered by Akane.
>>343453405
I think ZTD's Apocalypse ending (where R6 is released) ends a month or two before VLR actually starts?
It wasn't necessarily retconned, just wasn't the goal of this game.
>>343453289
Bad localization from 999.
Jumpy and Kanny were literally Junpei-kun / Akane
>>343453405? is Blick Winkel is the player is the morphogenic field.
-Some tweet I don't have saved
Everything else was dropped, though, yeah.THE DOCTOR WOULD NEVER ABANDON KYLE!
>>343453405
The only dropped plot point was Kyle
>people honestly believe Uchikoshi meant for Clover and Alice's story to go anywhere after VLR
What's it like to have autism?
>>343453310
Yes it was, he even says shit like now we are even, and we were doing some bonding when they ask him why he's all beat up.
Who else was disappointed at Eric's backstory having no relevance in the story?
>>343453405
>>343453542
To expand, you have to realize retconning in this series is basically impossible with the timeline shit. Nothing is lost, just a different perspective.
You may be trying to imply that given ZTD's plot VLR doesn't NEED to happen.
That's up to interpretation.
>>343453542
???
ZTD starts on 31 December.
Sigma gets abducted on christmas.
Alice and Clover 2 or 3 days before.
>>343453405
I have a lot of thoughts about how ZTD might not even be the end of the ZE universe's problems...but, for now I'll cut all that shit out and just say that I like to think that the "VLR" that ZTD leads up to isn't the same as the one we know, which explains the lack of continuity in some places.
>>343453682
I seriously disliked that dude, was pretty happy to find out he had literally no importance in the plot.
>>343453523
>I DINDU NUFFIN, REALLY
Well at that point he hadn't legally done anything wrong. Just having a cult isn't a crime as seen with Scientology.
>>343453682
i thought he was gonna be brother
nope apparently hes just some annoying douchebag with a traumatic past
>No final puzzle room
Biggest letdown of the entire game, though at least it wasn'tdice
>>343453717
I mean regarding where you go back to Akane in VLR, that's after the Apocalypse ending.
>still no Vita TV compatiblity patch
Is there any other glitches in the vita version I should know about?
>>343453669
he was joking, autist
>>343453682
There's always one faggot/whore in each game that's there for no apparent reason so I wasn't surprised
>>343453682
I cared so little about this character.
I don't really know why, I think I was just interested in other characters way more and felt like whenever he talked he was wasting my time.
>>343453243
Was there any meaning to all the different artstyles here?
>>343453807
Zero mentions the date for that in the Apo. ending. can't remember though.
>>343453652
>THE DOCTOR WOULD NEVER ABANDON KYLE!
SIGMA IS WORST DAD. WORST!
>>343453243
So what's the meaning behind the toys?
>Phi is a paper doll because she'sso flat
>Carlos is a Barbie accessory because he's handsome I guess?
>Q is a Matryoshka because he canremove his head
>Junpei is a voodoo doll because he gave one to Akane in 999's past
>Eric is a DAMN BRAT because he's a massive manchild all game
Anyone else figure out the rest?
>>343453303
Ah, that's good. Was that really what SJWs were complaining about though? What the fuck.
>>343453524
Christ. Maybe he has some minor sadistic tendencies.
Sigma holy shit, you had a hard life ;_;7
>>343453786
I think the Force Quit Box was supposed to be the final puzzle room, in a sense. In VLR, the Q room was the culmination of the entire game, and it's where Sigma is able to utilize his knowledge learned from different timelines.
They couldn't really do much more than that in ZTD. Everyone has already shifted a shitload of times so there wouldn't be much impact.
>>343453780
They at the very least killed Alice's father. Yeah, it was probably through some company they were in the shadow of like Cradle Pharmaceuticals, but they're definitely still criminals.
>>343452581
All I'm willing to do.
>>343453848
The entire Q team is worthless and unnecessary. They only fill up a quota of having a cast of 9 characters.
>>343453964
Akane is moe!
>>343453682
He's effectively the Lotus of the game in the backstory is connected to the events that brought things to this point but has no real relevance.
>>34345405210 characters*
>>343453964
it even says akane is moe in the game
>>343454007
I want to comfort naked, crying sigma in the shower
>>343453964
You forgot to mention Phi is an alien becauseshe straight up was born from an alien machine.
Let me fix the game:
>Kyle jumped to the past months before the game starts
>He warns Seven and Junpei about Free The Soul
>Seven investigates it and finds out it's all true
>Sees that they have files on the Kurashiki siblings
>Warns Junpei
>They destroy FtS and kill Brother
>Brother secretly uploaded a copy of his conscience to the Quantum Computer under the Mars Test site
>All the endings except the True one end with Radical-6 being released
>The Quantum Computer can see and calculate all timelines, like the morphogenetic field
>Zero is a combination of the computer, and the player, who is a fourth dimension being with the power to observe all timelines
>Everything we see is uploaded into the Quantum Computer
>"Zero" is just a hologram generated by AI Brother, who plans to trick the player into changing places with hi by making us experience endless possibilities and jumps until we're lost in time and space, and weak enough to be mindhacked
>The only reason Brother could pull off this entire game was because we wanted to see what happened in the test site, and wanted a third ZE game
>>343453964
Carlos dolls eyes are a little fucked up, he's meant to be a one dimensional action figure, hence >>343450161
and Mira is a barbie doll that looks like adams family shit
Reminder Carlos literally saved the world and without him VLR would not even exist.
>>343454007
where is this from
Let us settle this once and for all:
Why didGabkill Mira? What was his motive?
>>343454247
>"Zero" is just a hologram generated by AI Brother, who plans to trick the player into changing places with hi by making us experience endless possibilities and jumps until we're lost in time and space, and weak enough to be mindhacked
sounds dumb
>>343454018
it's not much of a puzzle when they just flat out tell you the answers in different timelines
>>343454247
>He warns Seven
And dropped it right here. I want nigger lovers to leave.
>>343454007
I'm not gonna lie, I don't understand that much.Is Sigma crying because he thought Diana was Luna for a second or because he mistook her for the Diana from his timeline that he fell in love with that inspired him to create Luna and he gets to see her again.
>>343453964
Not sure why Sigma is a Nutcracker and Diana is a Porcelain Doll.
Mira being a Dressup Doll probably means how beautiful she is on the outside.But hollow on the inside
>>343454356
The pussy
>>343454049
>not adding a sweater
>>343454007
How did Diana forget? In fact, wasn't it Sigma who wouldn't recognize her, considering it was his old self who met her first? iirc, Sigma's 22 year old consciousness didn't meet her until he started working in that facility before VLR
>>343454356She didn't give him cheese, so she paid for it with her fucking life.
>>343454391
Holy shit you're retarded
"Reverie syndrome"
>>343454391
He knows he will fall in love with her and she will die basically
Post your pic if you participated in the thread that started it all. Fucking love you all for making this happen, just got my copy today. Can't wait to finish and join my fellow anons in discussion!
3DS or PC?
>>343454391He explains in game that he met and lived with Diana on the moon. They were happy in love and then Diana died.
Of course this is all after the events in ZTD, timeline-wise.
>>343454515
This is what happens during DCOM before Zero fucks shit up.
>>343453243
I've said it a bunch of times but I swear I've seen Akane nendoroid before, or at least the face.
It just looks so damn familiar to me.
>>343454356
That part really fucked with my head. Fucking fake paws on a dog with human hands attached to his front legs instead all along, what the fuck were you smoking Uchikoshi?
>>343454391
That's Young Sigma being with Diana on the moon for 3 years
Her death inspires him to make Luna / Lagamorph and gives him renewed purpose to reach the events of ZTD. So he could see Diana againand give her the 18 inchesagain
>>343454438
I'd imagine Diana is a porcelain doll because she cracks under pressure
As for sigma, fucked if I know, Strong jaw?
>>343454614
PC.
>>343454597
>Nintendo
Disgusting
>>343454619
Really?
>>343454515
Sigma (old) and Diana meet at Dcom for the first time
Sigma (young) only meets Diana after the whole Zero incident
>>343454375
They didn't really tell you C-team's answer, it was more of a throwaway line iirc.
>Tfw I put snake and light before realising I was supposed to type inDelta
was there mention of ayy lmaos in vlr?
>>343454597
I dont have my picture anymore, but I took part
>>343454639
>>343454617
>>343454585
Thanks for helping me completely understand I knew it probably had to do with Young Sigma meeting Diana on the moon in the VLR time but wanted to make sure.
>>343454541
Except you. Fuck you.
>There was an old man who was watching all this time and didn't say a goddamn thing and posed as Q
What kind of stupid ass mother fucking twist is this fuck this goddamn game
>>343454780
Nope.
>>343454763
ooookay but still it was pretty obvious at least for me. A puzzle game without a final one doesn't feel right
>>343454597
I don't have the picture anymore, but I remember mine was fucking blurry as hell.
>>343454840
Dumbest twist in the entire series.
>>343454840
kek , He wasnt watching all the time YOU were watching from his POV
>>343454597
Somehow I still had time image.
>replaying puzzles but this time without collecting the hints and just putting in answers
>characters react differently
>"There was a 1/7,893,600 chance of getting that right!"
>"Heh, just lucky I guess"
>>343454840
From the creator of "MC was old all time along and he didn't notice it and no one asked him about it twist".
But yeah, this one's even more retarded.
>>343454840SEVEN MINUTESCOMPLETEGLOBALSATURATION
I wonder how much self-restraint it took of Sigma to not up and hug Diana or somethung right after seeing her
>>343454620
The part that confused me the most when was Eric and Mira started to fuck right in front of Sean because they thought they would make a psychic baby or some shit.
>>343454840
>stupid
It was foreshadowed through in the entire game
Every time Q team talked about an old man the camera went to Gab
You could also see his shadow multiple times
>>343454708
Yes but I don't think it chaika. Not entirely sure
>>343454840
Damn anon, he's the whole reason why the game is cinematic
go watch Q scenes again, there's hints all over the place
>June 28th
>Game arrives at my doorstep at 7am
>Immediately pop it into the 3DS
>Zero does a coin toss for our freedom
>Pick red
>Get it right
>Suddenly everyone is outside with no knowledge of what happened
>Credits roll
This was my game of the year for those first few minutes alone. I had gotten my hopes up a bit too high in regards to the resolution of the series (I was a believer of theSnake is Brother Theory, and I had wanted to seeAoi's reaction to Junpei proposing to Akane) but otherwise it was a fantastic experience all around.I can't believe Mira got away with killing Eric's mom.
>>343454904
>not diana having a husband who beats her
>>343455052
Wait
Red is correct?
For me, Blue was.
>>343455063
how is that even a twist?
>>343454840
You can see his shadows occasionally. When Eric shoots everyone with the shotgun, count how many blasts you hear and look at the number of bloodstains.
There was a lot of foreshadowing and I missed it completely, but I'm pissed because I didn't see it coming and I still barely get it. It didn't instantly click like it did in VLR.
>>343455124
It's 50/50 odds.
>>343455052
She was send to jail for the murders.Though Q did break her out.
>>343455010
Cool, but what does it change in the story?
>>343453898
ApparentlyDeltalikes Phi, Diana and Akane and thinks everyone else is a tool.
He likes Akane because she's hisgranddaughter. :^)
>>343455148
>luna is actually a used up whore
>not a twist
>>343455172
But then I picked red the second time and it was like "YOU LOSE, TIME TO PLAY GAME"
Here I thought it was like the other choices, Right to branch right, left to branch left.
>>343453964
>>343454650
>>343454438
Sigma as a nutcracker might be a reference to the ballet where the nutcracker was actually a prince trapped inside the nutcracker, whereas Sigma is a 67 year old man in a 23 year old's body
>>343455231
luna isnt
diana is
>>343455124
It was red for me as well because muh boy Junpei said it was. Is there actually odds involved or is the first decision always right?
This game would have worked with regular narration+CGs and without cinematics, right?
What was the 3rd anagram on the wall? I only remember 2 being deciphered in cutscenes
>>343455231
Hey, Luna is a pure waifu. Don't get the two mixed up.
>>343455321
Hadn't thought of that, good catch.
>>343455359
no it would ruin the amazing Q=delta twist
>>343452791
>Operation Bluebird
ty based anon
>>343455359
Nope. Delta is completely lost that way.
>>343455359
How would the Q twist work, then?
>>343455341
a corrupt tree can not bear good fruit
luna is based on diana
>>343455086
>Emulation
>3DS
>>343455369
what you choose can materialize us
the truth is invisible
with me we are ten
>>343455359
Yes, but it was made on literally a shoe-string budget with a different company and main artist. Happy with what we got, they tried their best.
>>343455475
By writing a good twist instead.
>>343455350
It's 50/50. What Junpei says is correct will always be correct, what Mira says is correct will always be wrong.
>>343455007
There was a document in the bio-lab (behind the sink, after you move it) that said accessing the morphogenetic field during climax increases the chance of conceiving a baby with esper abilities. So I guess the idea is they used Sean as a surrogate esper-maker by having him access the field from nearby while Eric and Mira were in the act?
>>343455498
I took this screenshot from another timeline.
>>343455490
diana didnt make luna
sigma made her as an idealized image of her, she's pure
>>343455547
I don't think it was bad, I just think it was handled poorly and not explained very well.
can't wait for the any% speeduns of this game
>>343454763
Every password is pretty blunt about it with zero going "remember this phrase" then spouting it off
>that ending where sigma dies and then diana kills herself
goddamnit sigma look at what you did
>every time Q-Team is put to sleep,you hear the sound of 4 bodies collapsing
>>343455672
There literally already is a WR.
It's really just who inputs the passwords for the boxes first.
>>343455745
But he's in a chair.
>>343455378
There was no scene as good as this in ZTD. They also overused blue bird lamentation and it lost its effect.
>>343454840
Even if there was foreshadowing, it was a fucking dumbass twist that had really no impact whatsoever in the story.
>>343455643
he replicated as best he could and knew she had an abusive husband before hand
there are infinite realities and in every one of them diana is a whore
>>343450981Not only did i get that, but I assumed Sean = Delta because it was the first time I ever heard someone say Sean in the entire game.lol
>>343455559
Mira was right for me.
>>343455547
Q= Delta is by no means a bad twist. What undermines the twist though is that Zero itself is just this old faggot whom we don't hear anything about for the entirety of the game until the last couple scenes instead of a character we knew about.
>>343455710
>>343455773
I'm kinda surprised that scene doesn't have a few variations, having her shoot a few blanks in confusion.
>>343455745
That makes no sense, isn'tMirato not receive any drug?
AlsoQ is in a wheelchair so that also doesn't make sense.
>>343455565
Thas is possible. It was also pretty fucked up that they movedQs wheelchair, removed his glasses and pretended he was seeing and listening to them.
>Ah you like to see that, uh you old fuck?
Why was that shit even in the game.
And don't get me started on the part where Junpei talks about his heroin addiction, I thought this turned into a fucking soap opera.
>Dry as fuck ending
>NO, you see, there are these files that explain what happened to the characters
>instead of a proper epilogue
Did they run out of time?Also, the whole "we can jump to the timeline where Mira hasn't killed anyone" thing is cringeworthy as fuck. As expected from Eric, I guess.
>>343455710
>That ending where Sigma bleeds out while hallucinating that Luna was speaking to him
>>343455350
Decision is rigged to whatever you pick first.
>>343455773
>I'll be joining you soon
>click
>...
>click
>SOON
>click click click click
>distant old man chuckling
>>343455846
pretty sure the old man was mentioned early in the game
>>343450546
source on pic
>>343455894
that's what I thought was going to happen at first
then she shot herself
>>343454990
I could deal with that because it's a matter of respect/socialshit to not bring up someones age but absolutely nobody interacting with him until prompted is just too fucking much.
Like what the fuck. So many questions could've been solved so much earlier if they weren't retarded and remembered there was a faggot in a wheelchair who they knew basically nothing about. From Q's team especially
Why did Delta give the gun to carlos to make the choice to kill him or not?
>>343455052
I thought that her accessing the morphogenetic field at the end would give her empathy she never had.
>>343455774
>>343455909As much as it doesn't make sense, you do hear four sound effects.Perhaps Mira is merely pretending, and Delta is slumping in his wheelchair? He doesn't have to collapse to the ground.
>>343455606
fair enough
So did anyone here fuck up the first coin toss?
>>343456017
I was talking about Delta himself, besides his speeches as Zero and the time he talked to Sean (before the reveal and the ending sequence) you don't know ANYTHING about him, his thoughts, his actions, what kind of person he is, nothing
>>343455378
Did anyone bother to make an edit of this picture with Luna?
>>343455792
I feel like the problem is that it doesn't really matter if he is there or not. If only Q team was getting mindhacked it would have but hes just mindhacking people he's not even near so it doesn't matter.
>>343455530
no, the 1st and 3rd one you gave are from the same anagram, the 3rd one has some letters missing tho.
What is the anagram for
>the game ends where i treat two
or something like this? (I type this from memory so don;t take it to be exact)
>>343455791
That shit made me mad. They'd use it for "dramatic" scenes and it would just stop and they'd play some generic tense song.
>>343456078
Well, his plan was already finished. Guy was fucking 130 years old or something, he was probably on his way out soon anyway, so it's not like he was losing much. And, like he said earlier, he's fascinated by decisions (hence the Decision Game).
>>343456173
I doubt it's possible. Letting players past that wouldfuck up the continuity of shifting back to it.
In retrospect, it's from left field but starting off everybody and their mom had to let people know they just beat the game.
Why were Carlos and Eric in the game?
Yeah, Eric's mom changed the life of Akane and thus of everybody in the game forever, but Eric himself was fucking useless.
Carlos instead has no connection at all with anybody, he is just some dude with SHIFT.Yet Zero says his life was changed by a snail like for the others, the hell?
>>343450661
I totally noticed mira shooting twice but was really confused, somehow I forgot it's an uchickoshi game and everything is accounted for
>>343456292
yes yes
but why Carlos?
>>343456252
>>the game ends where i treat two
wans't that "together with me we are ten, tldea"
I still enjoyed VLR the most. Don't know, felt like a more solid game to me. It had a decent build up, puzzle rooms were top notch, OST was great, and the twists just kept fucking me in the ass.
Dunno, ZTD was underwhelming in comparison, and the ending didn't do it any favors.
>>343456335
Carlos was in it for the BENJAMINS
Wait, so Carlos is the one who kills 6 billion, NOT Diana?I'm almost done with the game.
>>343456257
nothing compares to any of the late game twists in VLR
>>343456412
TEN MONTHS
>>343456356
Carlos was the person Delta offered the coinflip to at the beginning. Hence the speech about 'the lives of you, me, and humanity hang in the balance'. They're bookends.
>>343456418
It was Mira's fault for injecting Phi with radical-6
I thought Junpei was going to get cucked by Carlos.
>>343456335
Carlos needed to dosh the time cancer out of his little sister.
>>343456382
Do you still pretend you can't put that last word together Akane?
YOU CAN SOLVE AN ANAGRAM WITH 20+ LETTERS AND CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH TLDEA?!
>>343456418
diana spreads the virus because she can't kill her daughter phi
Carlos had 10 months and just didn't do jack shit because "I wouldn't have met you guys haha"
>Diana is a used up crack whore
>Mira is a virgin
Didn't expect it.
>>343456418
Carlos just fucked up his one job.
>>343456382
oh yeah maybetldea=delta
>>343456078
To end the game on a cliffhanger. He says the same thing he says at the beginning (so and so lives hang in the balance), but we don't get to actually make a choice because it was Carlos' choice.
>>343456527
I thought Akane was going to get cucked by Carlos.
>>343456418
Not really.Diana killed the 6 million by bringing Phi and Sigma out of the shelter, but Carlos super-fucked up because he could've stopped everything before it even began but instead he stood around with his finger up his ass for ten months before the events of the game
>>343456492
I know, but what is it about all the stuff I'm hearing about Carlos waiting 10 months to only cause the VLR timeline?
>>343456382
Together with me, Delta, we are ten.
>>343456490
Is carlos the main character?
>>343455840
me too
go team red
>>343456597
He needed to break them out without stopping zero so the vlr timeline could exist
>>343456604
>Mira is a virgin
where does it say that?shit Eric is just such a POS loser
>Everyone in ZE's universe can either be an elderly man in disguise or a robot or both
Must be horrible
Tfw only the healing room was comfy
>>343456676
The dumbass waited until shit went down in the facility to rescue Junpei and Akane instead of fucking sending the cops or something to stop Zero from the beginning.
>>343455413
>Amazing
>>343456069
Even if he was suppossed to be deaf, the moment they had to use the grenade laucher to blast the safe in the study, they didn't give a fuck about the old guy in a wheelchair.
Just the fact that there is a wheelchair involved makes everything just harder to get into the twist.
>>343456527
Carlos is a bro and helped him get the pussy. You should always get a gay guy are your wingman.
>>343456762
X-Pass
>>343456604
>Mira is a virgin
I don't remember that being a part of it I assume you mean her saying he was like her first but not like that, doesn't count out she has done the horizontal tango at least once.
>>343456863
it's one of her passcodes when she dies
virgin
>>343456490
It's an ensemble cast, but in each Decision Game the choice always falls to one person, intentional or not. I guess in the coinflip Zero's eye just happened to fall on Carlos. He obviously couldn't pickSean, because he wasn't one of the 'leaders', but I can't think why he didn't choose Diana instead.
>>343456418
Carlos saves everybody, people are just memeing, without him there would be no way to save the 6 billion and the best possible future would be the 6 billions over the 8. Akane and Junpei would also have died in the shelter so VLR would not have happened.
>>343456492
No excuses, Diana knew what it would've happened.
Seriously, does anybody, even just a single person here, can tell me why in the fuck Diana let Phi out of there?
>>343456670
How could he? He wanted to save THAT Akane and THAT Junpei specifically, which only transfered there at that specific moment, Carlos appeared to them like no longer than a hour after they came to that timeline. Going anywhere else, or even just earlier than when they transfered themselves, would mean saving other Akane and Junpei, but abandoning those two he really knew.
>Mira gets away with everything
that's the worst part
>>343456812
anon i was being sarcastic
tfw ywn live with diana in an underground shelter until you both starve to death
>>343456793
In theory there is a timeline where he did stop everything from happening it's just not the one that matters for this game.
>>343457052
That's the best part, where are my doujins?
So,did Sean destroy Akane's womb when he goes full ninjabot-mode and punches her?
>>343456971
intended for
>>343456694
Carlos came so close to being the hero, but then he had to become the ultimate cock block for Junpei.
>>343457052
She went to jail.
Then Sean helped her break free and go back to the time when she was a kid and stop her from killing people.
>>343457092
and have sex in alien pods
>>343457038
he could have saved the world without VLR happening. Warned about the virus, how to cure it, about the game that will happen and where, and about the religious fanatic and nuclear war.
>>343456849
oh yeah. Its really annoying that the xpasses are not filed in files or something, they don't even show you the board for more than a second so you could write it down peacefully
>>343457052
>The snail gets away with it
It's not fair bros.
>>343455846
>Q= Delta is by no means a bad twist.
I would call it artificial. They put everything perfectly in place, like
>the cameras never showing him (except his shadow) for no real reason
>sometimes they show Gab when talking to him for no real reason
>Q-Team not calling Sean by his name prior to the twist for no real reason
>Q-Team never complaining about having to deal with the old fart the whole time
>no one mentioning Q's picture missing on the study
>sending a blind, deaf, crippled man to test an environment similar to that on Mars
Then you add foreshadowing in some scenes and you have your twist. Of course it works within the logic of the game, but it's there for no reason for it to be there other than you not instantly guessing who Zero is. Oh, and to have a "mind blowing" twist in there.
>>343456687
>the dog doesn't count
You're a dick, Delta.
>>343457092
So, what d'you think happened immediately after that end? I mean, the transporter only copies, it doesn't actually send away the original. So, a few seconds after the fade to black, I presume Sigma and Diane pulled the twins back out. Then what? Did they try to last as long as they could and all starve to death, or did they snap the twins' necks so they wouldn't suffer?
>>343457218
Nobody would've been able to find religious fanatic, maybe not even believe him.
>>343457092
>tried to look up her skirt but the camera angle wouldn't let me
I can't let go of this habit.
>>343454356
>>343454620
>>343455007
>>343455565
>>343455919
None of that happened.
>>343457321
They realized that there was a pantry
>>343457192
that's a given
>>343457242
Writing down the X-Passes was when I discovered the log function can actually be useful.
>>343457218
Who the fuck would believe him?
>Average playtime: 24 hours, 31 minutes
holy shit
>>343457161
>Then Sean helped her break free and go back to the time when she was a kid and stop her from killing people.
so he killed 8 billion people then? Did he learn fucking nothing?
>>343457407
so you have any screen of themkissing, anon?
>>343457407
SPOILER THAT SHIT
THIS IS A BLUE BOARD
>>343457258
They briefly mention something is missing in the study pictures.
>>343454780
>ayy lmaos
I laughed way too much about this comment than I should have.
>>343457350
you just warn the terrorist attack will happen and don't go to war after it or change up the nuke codes and shit.
they would believe him if he knew everything else about the game and the virus and shit.
10 months
>>343457407
DELETE THIS
>>343457461
Yeah, I got my plat around there.
>>343457321
Sigma, and Diana get their memories back in FQB ending so don't they shift?
>>343452556
"Our" fans? This game wasn't even made by the Zero Escape staff. What business do they have putting a message like that right after a big list of people who have nothing to do with the series?
>>343457321
They probably didn't show the reactions because they couldn't afford the voice actors to give the best, most gut-wrenching performance of their lives.
>>343457461
sounds about right
>>343457161
I'm pretty sure that's how psychopathy works.
>>343457408
so anyone has all of them for everyone? would be interesting
>>343457440
he had 10 months to convince them
Does ZTD run on Toasters like really bad toasters?
>Diana is frequently sexually abused by her ex-husband
>Gets wet and asks for sex when Sigma hits her
>Gets on all fours to drink alcohol from the ground
I didn't expect Diana to be this much of used goods.
Sigma got fucked over.
>>343457614
It's cute but also weird at the same time
How old was Diana anyway?
>>343457614
god damn
>>343457038
That's a relief.
>>343457395
They could have solved the food problem fairly easilly by duping the food BEFORE themselves.
>>343457649
It ran on my 2DS:^)
>>343457461
I finished in 15ish hours.
>>343457461
yeah I was done at 19.5, but it's really surprising, looks like virtually everyone 100%'d the game
>You're on the trilogy timeline
>>343457649
Ran perfectly on my 2009 Intel HD 4000 notebook with 2 GB ram.
>>343457161
>Eric and Mira go back to the past
>Both searching for child-Mira
>Come to a fork in the road
>"You look over there! I'll look over here!"
>Mira jogs down the left path while Eric steps over a snail passing down the right path
The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
>>343457674
>old man still fucks her when he knows she's drunk
>>343457614
also
>kissing in front of alien energy trees
>>343452556
damn tight on cash so had to pirate or risk getting spoiled before i had the cash to spare. I do go out of my way to recommend the series to people though when i can, did buy the previous two
DAMN
>>343457626
Pretty much.
Stopping her from killing someone doesn't change the fact that at that moment, she was 100% resolved to murder someone in cold blood and tear their fucking heart out.
That's not something that just vanishes if you stop it from happening, that's true sociopathy.
>>343457461
Took me 26:27:14
>>343457754
dedicated fans
>>343457471
Don't worry, Q killed Eric's mom himself so that nothing else was changed. :^)
>>343457806
>risk getting spoiled
Literally how?
>>343457461
Took me about 25 hours and I fucked around escape rooms for a good while.
>>343450161
>>343457909
who's who, i don't get it
>People had trouble unscrambling "nips" in Rec room
>>343457461
>average playtime is about completion time
That's either serious dedication by the player base or some players are just really bad at puzzles.
Hopefully the number of players increases once the sale is over. Launching a $40 title during the Steam Summer Sale with no discount wasn't the greatest idea.
>>343457461
>Gamespot reviewer says he did it in 12
I hate people
>>343457890
because i frequent 4chan too much and am lazy with filters
>>343458004
>thought it was pnis
>>343457860
She is a kid. She can change with help.
Did you ever see that documentary about that violent little girl?
>>343457921
the playtime doesn't say that much about your puzzling ability when most of the game is cutscenes anyway
>everything is pointless because there are infinite timelines with different outcomes so changing stuff is useless
but we already knew this since VLR, this game was pointless
>ZTD wasn't a total flop
it's a miracle.
>>343458096
No, it just starts on a clean slate similar to 999.
Who else got stuck because they didn't get all the executions despite choosing all the betray options? I spent like an hour wondering why the last the Q fragments wouldn't unlock.
>>343458004
I spent an embarrassingly long time at the heart puzzle in that room. Like, nearly half an hour. To be fair it was nearly 5 in the morning and I'd been marathoning the game for about ten hours, but still.
>>343457860
She never really reacts to much in the story. The only time I think she's ever freaked out was when she was about to die from the executions. She doesn't seem to have any emotions.
I was a little annoyed at her ending, because she shows these signs of being a psychopath but in the files it says shit like "a true smile was on her face" and how she wants to repent and shit.
I'm seriously fucking stuck, guys. I've completed pretty much all I could on the flow chart, I'm near the end game. The only fragments I haven't finished are:Q team's force quit box, Q's real name and Zero's real name. I'm sure I haven't seen the password for the box yet, so that's out of the question. Not sure about Q's real name too,Sean gives an error. The only thing I can try isenter Delta as Zero's real name, because he dropped the hint that he was born in the shelter and sent into the future, so the only one who could have been that is Delta. Is that the right progression?
>>343458054
>Thought it was Pins
>>343458054
I legitimate thought it would be PNIS.
VLR > 999 > ZTD
>>343457845
MONTHS
>>343458096
the goal is to make the timeline where things are okay and to exist in it (by shifting and keeping memories)
>>343457514
I'm replaying that part right now. Any idea when this happens? The cinematic before the escape room doesn't talk about it and clicking every picture multiple times doesn't mention anything about something missing.
>>343458258
STOP
>>343458004
I seriously thought it was Snip. I had no fucking clue why it wouldn't work.
>>343458198
Maybeaccessing the morphogenetic field when she SHIFTed finally helped her to understand human emotion
>Akane talking about how special Junepi is to her
>Junpei talking about how much he wishes he could protect her forever
Why don't they just fuck, I didn't expect this romance anime bullshit.
I've read multiple reviews that mentioned the puzzles were fair aside from a single one that kept them scratching their head and some couldn't figure out what the logic behind the solution was even after getting it right. What do you think they were talking about?
>>343449825
Gab getting shot made me more upset than anything else in the game.
ZTD was rather lacking in emotional impact.
>>343458182
me, that shit stupid
>>343458182
me, anon
>>343458210
see if you too
Best/worst/comfiest rooms in 999, VLR, ZTD, overall?
>>343458210
Make sure you have all the execution scenes in the global flowchart I was stuck in this exact same way.
>>343457634
I just quickly put what I wrote down into babby's first paint chart. Maybe someone better with photoshop than me can fix it up.
>>343458367
>I didn't expect this romance anime bullshit.
Have you not played 999?
>>343458004
I spent half an hour figuring that one out
then I spent like two fucking hours doing this >>343458197
Then spent another hour not noticing I had to use the firepick to lift the cover on the floor
And another half hour figuring out wtf were the Q and J cards in the equation, not noticing the middle word was ODDS for some stupid reason
I hated that room the most
>>343458367
>puts a ring on her finger
because their love is pure and they take sex seriously unlike that whore diana.
>>343456409
Is this actual Diana lewd
>>343458378
i was able to figure everything out pretty easily except for the direction of the pink compass in the semen lab
>>343457806
What a hero
>>343458210
You can do it that way, but Q's real name (assuming you're talking about the crossbow standoff) just leads to an alternate easter egg ending. The correct path to take is 'who is Zero'. If you think about it, you should be able to figure out which of the participants is Zero.
Really though, what the fuck was Mira's deal.I'm willing to accept the whole tearing people's heart out to understand emotions, but seriously, why does she do all that other stuff that won't even satisfy her? Just for shits and giggles? That's retarded.
>>343458503
>Diana
>Milk
MEGA
>>343458182
Right here pal. even I went through a shit ton of the cutscenes again to see if the Force quit passwords were hidden in the dialogue, thats a good couple of hours of my life I will never get back.
>>343458503
thanks, that makes sense, too bad there wasn't some puzzle involving them
>>343457394
You sure?
>>343458503
>milk
>>343458503
Mira confirmed for virgin
>>343458503
>mom
>milk
>>343458325I'm pretty sure that's it. She accidentally accomplished what Ace spent almost ten years trying to accomplish.
>>343458182
It was mostly the Q-team questions that got me. I thought I had to wait until I saw the answer in another timeline. Apparently 'Don't Know' was accepted by a gun-toting maniac.
>>343458574That's what sociopaths do, anon.
>>343458378
Transporter room, that bullshit with the cards.
>>343458565
you imply i'm acting like one. i'm just saying i'm 99% asshole instead of 100%
>>343458659
>you will never drink Diana's mom milk
>>343458708
Despite how much time I spent in Transporter, I really liked itpossibly due to children's card games.
>>343458503
You got B mixed up a bit. Swap 'milk' and 'blue'. Milk is Klim backwards, and blue refers to the blue bird pendant.
>>343458616
>>343458641
>>343458659
I-It's just Klim backwards like Luna's password in VLR!Maybe.
>>343458503
>>343458616
>>343458641
milk was meany for sigma KLIM
>>343458378
I don't think I knew which of the wires to cut on the 1st cover in robot room, I thought it was the blueprint but it matches one of the next ones, but I got the 50/50 apparently so I didn't think much of it
>>343458791
I SUMMON ELEMENTAL HERO BIRDMAN IN ATTACK MODE
>>343458708
how was that bullshit? They give you all the tools necessary to solve it and there aren't any ridiculous leaps of logic like a couple other puzzles. I thought it was fun and a good challenge
>>343458503
>The X passes refer to how Zero sees them
>Sigma has DAD, Diana MOM and Phi TWIN
Holy shit.
>>343458667
If only he had a sweet rack, then he would have gotten his happy ending.
>>343458771
I wonder if she has kids with her husband, clearly she doesn't mind getting nutted inside
>tfw you will never be locked with Diana in an underground shelter, where you can lock all food and water away from her, and make her pay for it with sexual favours.
>tfw you will never start with mellow stuff like a blowjob for the lunch, and then scale it to hardcore anal fucking and face fucking sessions for simple bottles of water
>you will never start giving her booze as a way to ease the pain of the endless brutal anal fucking sessions, and hook her up on alcohol, to control her easily.
>You will never force her to drink your semen endlessly every single day just so she can get her daily food, and survive just to choke on your dick another day
>You will never make her beg for you to cum outside, just to cum inside her again and again, laughing about how she'll probably die once she gets pregnant.
>you will never completely and utterly mindbreak her ad turn her into a sex sleeve
why live
>>343458004
>people had to unscramble the letters when there's a note that tell you the order of the letters
>that one faggot that kept blaming the dog
>>343458621
Also I went through the games again assuming it did something similar to VLR. Fuck.
>>343458870
You think he'd allow her to get preggers? He probably punched her in the stomach if she ever said she was preggers
>>343458693But she has a consistent MO, method, reasoning, etc. to it with the heart stuff. She wouldn't kill 18+ times all of them the same exact way, and still want to kill the same way in this game (like she does with Eric) only to giggle at chopping heads off or poking people with syringes for no reason. If she did, she'd have broken her pattern ages ago.
>>343458887
HOW COULD A DOG DO IT?
>>343458848
I liked how Sigma noted the "man+moon" card looked like a fighting game character firing off an hadoken.
Did people already forget about the Two Milkmen Go Comedy! anagram?
>>343449052
Just finished it, so can we agree finally that Phi > Akane on all levels?
>>343458812
>>343458828
Oh, damn. My original chart is in Sigma-Phi-Diana order, but the X-passes are announced Diana-Phi-Sigma. That's probably where I fucked up.
>>343459035
Actuallyyeah, please remind me what it was
>>343458873
Diana's ex-husband please fuck off.
>>343459036
yes, akane is shit because she her primary motivation is saving the world but junpei's is just being with akane.
>>343458873
>sex sleeve
Got me.
>>343459075
Two Milkmen isTwo Klim Men, i.e. Sigma and Kyle
>>343459075
Welcome to my kingdom.
>Akane is japanese, so she's a pure and virginal yamato nadeshiko that has only eyes for her husbando Junpei
>Diana is american, so she's a drunk alcoholic addict that is already divorced and frequently has rebound casual sex with her abusive ex-husband. Physical violence also turns her on
Good one Uchikoshi
>>343449517
Yeah she was really a hypocrite
>>343449515
>>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times
Just checked, nothing happens. Anon is full of shit.
>>343459063
Revised.
>>343458182
That and letting the clock run out for Sean and Eric were kind of bullshit.
>>343458791
I knew I wasn't the only one
>>343458428
999:
>Best: Don't really remember most rooms or their puzzles. The workshop maybe?
>Worst: The engine room.
>Comfiest: Captain's room.
VLR:
>Best: GAULEM bay.
>Worst: I didn't really hate any room in particular.
>Comfiest: The Lounge bar.
ZTD:
>Best: The Pantry.
>Worst: Biolab.
>Comfiest: The Study.
Overall:
Same as ZTD's.
>>343458852
I found the transporter room easy. It as a bit tedious the way I did it by testing all the cards to know the exact position the 3 numbers were on the testing board but I ended up completely not using the wheels because I just googled base 13 converter to get the number in dec. It was until the cutscene with with the 2 rod thing being used to destroy the machine that I realized that was probably an in game way to convert the number.
>>343459205
she's not an alcoholic
she only started drinking after being stuck in the shelter
>>343459036
Phi didn't do shit for the second game in a row
Literally the Quark of this game
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY POINTLESSLY RUIN DIANA BY MAKING HER A USED UP OLD WHORE? IT WASN'T EVEN NECESSARY FOR THE PLOT
>>343458426
>>343458481
I have all the four bubbles of executions completed, but I still have one locked scene in Q team and the situation I described in >>343458210
idk what the fuck is going on
>>343459205
>Junpei is Japanese, so he's a bitter xenophobic asshole who spends his life drowning in a bottle like all salarymen
>Carlos is American, so he's a heroic firefighter who goes out of his way to learn obscure facts and traditions about other cultures in between saving lives, providing for his sick sister, and eating apple pie
Hey, it works!
>>343459220
damn anon, i was hoping for a hidden sex scene
A cane always had a nice ass.
>>343459320
Need one for my nigga Birdman
>>343459075
Welcome to my kingdom
>>343459320
Do you have the full picture with all the numbers?
Do you also have the loss edit?
>>343459308
>Bullshitting Eric
You should have known better.
>that creepy giggle when the birdman card destroys one of your cards
anybody else think that was the spookiest shit in the entire game?
>>343459373
Quark was better. He at least had an excuse being in coma.
>>343459406
More yellow fever WMAF propaganda
>>343459373
B-b-b-ut X-FACTORShe had to die in a timeline so that she could live in another. The meaningful thing she did was dying so she could be born the firstplace. Really makes you think
>>343459510
sorry I used another anon's meme
>>343459373
She had mad banter when Quark didn't. That alone makes her better than most characters.
>>343459373
but phi is cute
>>343459392
>Important plot point
>Not important because I said so
>>343459404
yeah just enter Zeros name, you should have it figured out by then
>>343458641
delta is what happens when you don't breastfeed
>>343458503
I think Akane had aHEXin thetimeline where she died in Anthropic principle. We just barely saw it though because Diana and Sigma escaped on there and we didn't hear/input it, but you could see it on the board
>>343459681
Quark is cuter
>>343459641
>mad banter
>sexual tension with her father
>see me in my suinsuit by boobs are D cups!
>>343459748
Akane is a witch?
>>343449161
This is mildly incorrect.
It's obvious
Carlos > Sigma > Q > Junpei >>>>>>Eric40 votes is prety sad
>That horror look on Sigma's face when he realizes that he tried to fuck his own daughter
>there are timeline in which he did
>>343459698
>important
all it did as give her motivation to enter the game, literally could have been anything else. Could have just been the nurse suggested it.
>>343459607
>Same image twice
You botched it.
>>343459836
Hex = 6
>>343450145
Whichever you like the most.
>>343458210
It looks like you have something fundamentally wrong. Follow along with that last spoiler and you'll figure out what's wrong.
>>343459916
No anon she's a bitch witch
>What?! My hand pressed the button by itself... I didn't want to kill them....
>That's cool and everything, but have I ever told you about Schrödinger's cat?
I always find hilarious how the characters in Uchikoshi's games won't doubt about explaining random wikipedia shit in the least appropriate moment
>>343459749
I'm bothered that Akane seemed to have indentation on her inner thighs where the clothing ends but we never got a good shot of it.
>>343458387
THIS
There was nothing compared to what I felt in the ending of 999 o Lunas's ending in VLR.
Still, it was a nice conclution.
>just realized that if a japanese person tried to pronounce crash keys it would probably sound like kurashikis
damn it
>>343459986
We are about to freeze to death, but have you ever thought about the sublimation point of CO2?
>>343460049
wow good job anon!
>>343459916
>343459916
>>343459836
>>343459303
Add these. This is the timeline from whenyou fail the monty hall problem
>>343459406
Uchi meant Carlos to be an all-American hero. There is no subtlety there
>pic related. I laugh every time
>>343450661
>twins fragment
>before birth: everyone but sigma/akane/diana is dead on the status screen
>after birth: Phi and Q are both "Alive" again
UCHIKOSHI
YOU
MADMAN
>>343459748
I remember seeing that too. Uh, was that the timeline with SAVE and DOLL, right? I can't remember.
>>343456335
Yeah i really don't understand eric's purpose, maybe he was dragged along because of mira being brought?
>phi tells us her hair color is actually red
no shit you have red eyebrows
>brows were black in VLR
what a hack
>>343459716
sure but i was fucking confused when i saw what happened,some random dude in a wheelchair just popped into existence out of nowhere, and everyone suddenly knows him and Q's real name too. Was surprised by that and presumed that I sequence broken into the later parts of the game, but apparently the plot is just retarded it seems
>>343459404
Check D-team's "Transport" fragment. After Sigma and Diana transport and you view that cutscene, there's a bubble in the same fragment directly underneath you can jump to.
>>343460108
i've heard japs have a massive inferiority complex and worship idealized americans since WW2
>>343460129
A single snail could press that button.
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