New zero time dilemma thread
Fucking off if you've not finished it should come without mention
But in any case please spoiler your shit
>they didn't make that bathroom music box song play anywhere else at all
>orchestral bell morphogenetic sorrow from the trailer nowhere to be found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbCB5TvjH4M
>that song at the end of that same trailer nowhere to be found, except the credits sound like a remixed version of it
These are my only dissapointments
Other than that, I just feel empty, this was a huge part of my life these past 7 years,knowing we may be saying goodbye to these characters is sort of depressing
>>343407246
Ultimately I wonder if that's why the ending didn't sit well with a lot of people. It just kinda...ended.
This is still the best game i've played this year though, and I think I may have liked it more than VLR, though not 999.
DECISION GAEMU TAIM
1) http://www.strawpoll.me/10638133
2) http://www.strawpoll.me/10638134
>>343407481
DianaSean
>>343407481
There is an option missing in the second poll
So, Sigma gets the pleasure ofgetting ejected from his body by Young Sigma back to a future where his waifu is dead, right?At least he still has Phi, I guess.
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Why are the puzzles in the booklet significantly more difficult and more poorly explained than those in the actual game?
All decision games should have been like the button one
Timed and with other party members screaming at you while the camera zooms into either your face or whatever you are using to choose
>>343407481
>100% Diana
Perfect.
>>343407661
that would be a spoiler
>>343407707
No, not right
Only the VLR timeline has that
The only problems I had with the endings were
>files instead of cutscenes, or at least narrated still images with music
>no files for D- team (seriously wtf ?)
>>343407865
>for one Sigma, 45 years of hard work, all wasted because of the temptation to press a button.
Why does Akane suddenly have purple hair??Where is Santa
Not finished yet so not really browsing the thread but does the game point out in the flow what parts you get passwords? VLR did it for the bombs.
I forgot to note down all I got so far and can't really remember which scenes had the ones I missed.
So maybe i'm completely retarded and off base with this, if I am feel free to correct me, because I want to know,Was the one inhabiting Kyle's body at the end of VLR Sean/the Quantum Computer as it was born?
>>343408232
Why is Junpei an entirely different character after one year while 40 years of solitary bitterness only had a minor impact on Sigma?> Where is Santa
Helping from outside is all the explanation you get.
>>343408401
Because Sigma takes things in stride better I suppose.
>>343408283
Nope. Take screenshots of anything that seems important.
>>343408469
Shit.
>>343408283
IIRC all the important ones are:Q's head's password: Reality fragment bad end
Force Box C: C-end
Force Box Q: Q-end-2
Yellow door: D-end-2
Can't remember if I missed any.
>>343408530
I think they come from endings with unique icons so check those out. Which passwords are you trying to find out?
>>343407352
So let me get something straight,Zero/Delta engineered Radical-6 and released it on 8 billion to counter the effect of the terrorist's virus? Why is this unnamed terrorist's/religious fanatic's identity and motivations never expanded upon, is it due to Delta's lack of ability to shift?Seeing as it is the major conflict to be resolved in the game, I really expected more.
As far as mindjacking and SHIFTing is concerned,is the entity ? from the last game who possesses Kyle, the same person as the entity controlling the decision making process in ZTD (I understand that the player was meant to be Kyle's consciousness at the end of VLR, but in ZTD it seems like Delta is the one mindjacking the decision-maker sometimes. Is it a combination of both the player and Delta over the course of ZTD?).The alien technology aspect of the plot also bothered me a little due once again to how it seems merely brushed over
Why does the game do detailed exposition
>>343409132
>terrorist virus
No virus just a random isis dude, one in 8 billion who manages to cause instability leading to war
He isn't that important since there's loads of theme even in our own world, 9 shifters and crash key could easily find him
I don't even understand how to interpret or answer the questions 3-6 in the booklet.
Or what you're supposed to do with the digits being over 10 in 1 and 2, and the numbers = letters in the corners.
Why the fuck is this allowed?
>>343407352
It didn't sit well with me because there wasn't a single puzzle room in the "true route", just slapping in passwords from other scenes and a shitload of cutscenes. And then it's just another cliffhanger for a sequel with zero sense of resolution.
It also only took me 20 hours to get 100%, compared to 30 hours for VLR, and I didn't skip anything in ZTD at all while skipping through most of the text in VLR as fast as I was reading it (ie not waiting for the voices to finish), so it's a pretty significant reduction in content there. And the lack of budget is painfully obvious with this new system of presentation.
Forgot to spoiler my post
>>343409132>Zero/Delta engineered Radical-6 and released it on 8 billion to counter the effect of the terrorist's virus
No, the blood-eruption virus was never relevant. It was just 'a terrorist attack that led to nuclear war'. The other virus probably couldn't have killed many people anyway since the incubation period is very fast and 100% fatal, so it wouldn't spread very well. The terrorist was just one random asshole who probably detonated a bomb in the middle of the road right when the President's limo drove over it by sheer luck or some shit
> is the entity ? from the last game who possesses Kyle, the same person as the entity controlling the decision making process in ZTD
The only one mindhacking the teams is Delta, ? is never mentioned in the game. It's possible that ? is Sean's consciousness when he was first created, but the honest answer is we don't know until either 4zeroescape or Uchi puts up his answers page like 999 and VLR had.
>The alien technology aspect of the plot also bothered me a little due once again to how it seems merely brushed over
Agreed, it seems like it's basically only there because Uchi wrote himself into a corner and needed a magical time travel machine as an out. They could've at least explained it as some shit like it was built by humans accessing the morphogenetic field to pull blueprints from the far future or something. ANCIENT ALIUMS is just weird.
That's exactly what he did.
How does Delta even know about the extinction of mankind in the future if he can only read minds and not access the field? He couldn't have read the mind of someone who came back, because everyone is dead.And how the fuck is he walking around and pulling off shit like this when he's so goddamn old?
Well it didn't wrap up everything and had some issues.
But it wasn't Corpse Party Blood Drive, and I got some answers I wanted and some great character moments, so i'll take it.
Who here /complex motives/ ?
>>343409742
>The only one mindhacking the teams is DeltaBut he wasn't there for the non-Q decisions, like the decontamination room ones. And pic related also implies that he wasn't manipulating them and is aware of the player / ?.
>>343409742The FBR virus doesn't exist, it was a metaphor. "Fanatic Bio R" with a 100% death rate refers to the religious fanatic who causes the nuclear war and ends humanity (100% death rate, 8 billion people), Radical-6 is its counter since it kills the fanatic before he can act and only has a 75% death rate (6 billions).
>Akane and co SHIFT like a 100 times in the game but suddenly at the very end Akane's preaching about how wrong it is
>Akane going all moralfag on Delta even though technically she's done the same thing he's done before
>Was hoping for Junpei and Akane to clash over their different values and morales, instead they spend the whole game flirting with eachother and then live happily ever after
>Carlos lives happily ever after with his little sister, too
>Q-team go back in time to unmake Mira a serial killer and then she gets married to Eric. But you can't unmake someone a psychopath, who's to say she won't murder someone in the future
>Nothing on what happens to D-team
>NO KYLE
So that was an ending I guess
>>343410043
Damn, that was a good one.
>>343410191That Akane thing pissed me off, they flirted with the idea of Junpei having it out with her over the shit she pulled, but never did it. Akane had no right to take the high ground on ANYTHING.
Be honest, did you likeDelta's reveal? I feel like I couldn't appreciate it like others may have because I missed every single hint
>>343410043
>The FBR virus doesn't exist
It must exist because otherwiseMirawouldn't be able to go on to kill D-team in the ending where Q-team injected themselves with Radical-6.
>>343410191
I haven't played VLR since it released, but I was rather confused by the mechanics of it all in ZTD. In the previous games, weren't they basically just pulling memories or information out of the field, which then merged with themselves? Such that it was less a process of overwriting them, and more that of combining with them? Whereas in ZTD it's described as straight up forcing the old mind out to let the new one in. Have I misremembered or misinterpreted the previous games or did they just change it this time?
>>343410191>Carlos 10 months ago
>On the way to the hospital to visit his sister
>Wondering what kind of flowers he should pick up
>Suddenly the world turns white
>He wakes up staring at a damage console sparking with electricity
>The last thoughts that go through his head are the memories of his past self yelling OH BOY! THIS IS MY CHANCE! HOW LUCKY!
>>343410191
>>343410316
>thinking Uchikoshi would screw his waifu over
>>343410397
I thought it was okayI thought most of the twists in this one were weak, but it had a lot of great character moments so it kinda balanced out
>>343410397
It barely had any hints at all, it was bordering on Heavy Rain with how shit a twist it was.Sharin no Kunidid the exact same thing but with far better foreshadowing and execution.
>>343409868I'm guessing due to the immediate sense of danger, any number of people with latent ability could have shifted and he inadvertently mind-hacked one of them. They didn't even explain how exactly his mind-hacking works? Can he perform it on any person he's familiar with at any given time? Is it something he can only use on someone he is in direct visual contact with through his sunglasses etc. What are his limits?
>>343408401
Because Junpei immediately lost the girl he had saved through spacetime who left with barely a word, failing to get closure AGAIN, then joined a detective agency where he apparently only ran into the scummiest of cases and became an alcoholic. Sigma jerked off with Diana for a few years in solitary and then made a robo-harem to keep company.
Jumpei still jokes around a bunch, can be airheaded, and is equally untrustable like Tenmoldy. Life is simply unfair.
>>343410191>Q-team go back in time to unmake Mira a serial killer and then she gets married to Eric. But you can't unmake someone a psychopath, who's to say she won't murder someone in the future
when does this happen??
>>343410549
you get files after the ending
>>343410397
I hated it at first, but now I've seen a lot of the foreshadowing and it was pretty well done, but I just can't break my suspension of disbelief about the ridiculousness of the twist.
>>343410501
>It barely had any hints at all
There were like a dozen. A couple of them are very on-the-nose, too.
>>343410316
>they flirted with the idea of Junpei having it out with her over the shit she pulled, but never did it
this really made me angry
UCHI GOT NO BALLS
>>343410418
Not necessarily? Radical-6 doesn't necessarily slow your brain down that quickly. Heck, it took Phi three months and a half to get frozen after contracting Radical-6. Zero also would've wanted to make sure Mira died afterwards due to her sins.
>>343410528
>and then made a robo-harem to keep company.
After 25 years of solitary work.
>>343410427
Jumping/SHIFTing worked the same in ZTD as it did in VLR, it's just that because Phi/Sigma had no experience with it that they weren't able to keep their memories most of the time when they jumped until they start to get better at using it over the course of the game, where they start to remember more and more.
I wonder what Sigma felt like when he saw his waifu from like 50 years ago again, even though she's technically not the exact same diana of his timeline
>>343410826
He felt liketapping that ass and making some bootstrap babies
>>343410649
The only ones I can think of arethe mention of there being 9 people in the experiment but nobody knowing who Sean was at the start, the old man comment in the decontamination room, and sometimes being able to make out a blocky shadow if you look very hard.Compared to the other game this is fuck all and it's easily missable, which makes the reveal feel like it came out of nowhere rather than something being in your face the entire story and acknowledged by the characters in a way that deflects your attention, as in SnK.There are also several times where characters blatantly referred to Sean as Q in dialogue, so the file saying they never called him anything else is full of shit.
>>343409868His superior greek alphabet genes were caused by his parents' extreme living conditions
>>343410191
Akane and Junpei could be written off as both of them still having tons of feelings for each other (she immediately accepts his proposal) and they do clash a few times since he's the devil's advocate of the team.
Q-team's shenanigans only makes an alt timeline where Mira isn't a killer, which is super fucking doomed: Mira saves Mira, Sean lives, Delta never needs Sean-bots, Mira likely never meets Eric unless she molds her life to meet him in Nebraska from Cali. The survivors we know are probably moved to execution for attempting a prison break, since they're not actually transported.
>>343410838
Did uchi purposely do this and memento mori? what the fuck.
>>343409868
It's pretty complex, you wouldn't get it.
>>343410948When you try to shoot Mira with the crossbow, she fires two shots (Q, Delta)
If you try to name Q during the Mexican Standoff, it says 'please enter Q's real name' but if you name "me" it says 'you cannot commit suicide'
If you guess Zero's identity wrong when Eric is psycho, he kills Q then fires three more shots (Sigma, Diana, Delta)
>>343410826
Pretty bad.
>>343410316
Agreed.
>>343410397
I had no idea what the fuck was going on at first. Then I thought back on some previous scenes and it made sense.
>>343411023
DELETE THIS.
>>343410948
Just a few obvious ones
>In the three-way standoff, if you type Q, it says input Q's name, but Sean gives an error
>If you tell Eric Q killed Mira, he says that's impossible even though he just said you did it
>If you tell Eric Sean killed Mira, he says he knew it was you, meaning he knows your name
>Eric mentions the old man in a wheelchair
>When Q dies, Sigma says he had no idea what was going on, he couldn't see or hear
>>343410838
It's "I'm Delta, I'm Me, Zero" You have it backwards.
I am you
Will be me.
>>343411023
UN-FUCKING-FAIR
>>343411213
>>In the three-way standoff, if you type Q, it says input Q's name, but Sean gives an error
This is annoying
There's "suicide is not an option" message for "me" or "myself", but not for Sean.
>>343411154
>If you try to name Q during the Mexican Standoff, it says 'please enter Q's real name' but if you name "me" it says 'you cannot commit suicide'
Oh, right. I noticed that one, but forgot to mention it.
>>If you tell Eric Q killed Mira, he says that's impossible even though he just said you did it
>>If you tell Eric Sean killed Mira, he says he knew it was you, meaning he knows your name
I got that first one and had a laugh thinking it was a fuckup, now I feel like an idiot. Didn't think to try the second.
>When Q dies, Sigma says he had no idea what was going on, he couldn't see or hear
When was this?
All the shot ones are pretty easily overlooked as just them being savage cunts.
>>343411087
They hardly clash at all, Junpei's just acting like a tough guy most of the time, and those few times Junpei's proposing they kill the other team all she does is go "THE KIND JUNPEI-KUN I KNEW WOULD NEVER DO THIS HOW COULD YOU" but doesn't seem to care about it 5 seconds later
>>343411023
GET OUT OF HERE
>>343411324
Sean's full name is Sean 729 but you can't input numbers.
Well, it's a weak explanation but it's something.
So Gab related,why did Delta shoot gab in the ending after the boxes? Seems pointless, even if he was an old dog since the place was about to blow up anyway. Also why didn't they just jump to before Phi kicked Delta to stop her once they knew what the box was for?
>>343411125
What about memento mori?
>>343411162
oh god what the fuck, why is this only in the booklet? if i had known this before playing all the D-team fragments would have been even betternow i'm choking back tears too, goddamn it
>>343411535
Dogs are too simple-minded for our complex overlord.
>>343411486
Considering "Sean" gives a response when Eric asks who kills Mira, it just seems like a bad oversight.
>>343411162
fug dude
So in one historyZero says Carlos has already killed him, but I can't recall that anywhere and my flow is full. Did they just gloss over that?
>>343411535
He knew too much
>>343410397
No, it felt stupid
>>343411535
Some theorize, weirdly, thatKyle's mind is in Gab.
>>343411738He's talking about the timeline where Q-Team is executed.
>>343411535
What is not explained and not answered either is why when Sean is left all alone in the shelter Gab is in chains. What is the purpose of this? Gab is seen escaping in other timelines so why not this one? There has to be a meaning behind it.
How do I get this last one?
>>343410493
This is kind of how I feel about the game
VLR had the better plot, but had like four characters who weren't characters at all or could've easily been merged
999 is the better game than both, though
reminder the ending is the happy ending everyone was wanting since vlr
>>343411535
There's a lotta theories if I have it right
>Gab was Kyle, Kyle needed to jump but none of the 9 would've known to help him
>Gave Phi the time to kick him while he explained nonsense, pissed Eric off enough to go trigger happy again
>MIND HACK
>Just to be a douchebag
>Mira had done it at some point for fun
Preventing Phi from kicking Delta was pointless because they needed the place to explode to put them all in danger at once to jump simultaneously together to bring Eric/Mira for whatever reason.
>>343411023
DELETE THIS
>>343411162
Damn.
>>343411162
Man, I wouldn't even mind if Uchikoshi rewrote ZTD as a novel/LN if we could get things more wrapped up and less new-to-the-series friendly.
>>343411535
gab was the true mastermind and had to be eliminated
>>343411805
The better question is why did they just spend ten minutes fondling a huge iron chain with their bare hands instead of looking for a single tool that could help them? What exactly did they hope to accomplish?
Your face when Akanesmashed the fuck out of Carlos for killing Junpei?
Best waifu.
>>343412026
I feel like just getting to know a little bit more of what all the characters were thinking/feeling would have made the game so much better, but i guess its hard with the cinema style
>>343411535
It was to prove a point to the espers who just swapped with consciousness to get them killed that Gab was still dying in other timelines. Like when Akane lets the reactor blow up. She didn't even consider it was going to kill Gab.
Is this still the best bad ending in Zero Escape?
>>343412146
I was kinda laughing honestly.
And nah, best waifu is Diana.
>>343412026
I think the main drawback of ZTD is that it doesn't have narration. The writing in 999 was absolutely brilliant, having a dialogue-only driven plot loses some of its charm.
>>343411683
Because Eric only knows Sean as that, without the numbers. I do agree it's an oversight though.
>>343411824
Use the team selection instead of the flowchart.
>>343407172
>playing handheld games
This board is for adults.
>>343412252
That's notQ's head or submarine.
>>343412264
They could've easily added narration too. The bottom screen was black 90% of the time.
>>343411805Delta is chained to Gab around the sink so that neither can escape a la Clover and Tenmyouji in VLR.
Sigma VLR > Carlos > Junpei ZTD > Sigma ZTD > Junpei 999
>>343411840
>VLR had the better plot, but had like four characters who weren't characters at all or could've easily been merged
Quark is the only one in VLR that I felt was pointless.
>>343411848
It's not even an ending though.
>>343411390
If you fuck up the vote for D team, he says it in one of the fragment cutscenes
>>343412205
This is what I surmised.
>>343412252
Is this Axe or Syringe?
>>343412321
It's locked
So regarding Mirais everyone just ignoring the fact she's a serial killer, and unprovoked kill them in several timelines?
>>343412264
999 had too much unnecessary narration.
VLR nailed with Sigma's monologues only narrating the important stuff.
>>343412146
I thought it was incredibly stupid
I mean she had just woken up, couldn't have known exactly what was going on and didn't even confirm if junpei was dead
>>343412252
The bad end to "Reality" whereSean removes his headkinda got me.
>>343412146Insane Akane is quite the spectacle. Stay away from her man, man.
>>343412146
>>343412392
Alice and Clover could've easily be one character, they don't serve different purposes, and K is a literal non-entity
>>343412205
I liked how when Carlos blew up the transporter chamber they totally ignored that he just blew up Akane and Junpei with it.
I'M HAPPY WITH THIS ENDING BUT
>not even a mention of light field
>only a passing mention of left
>carlos only looks like him due to coincidences
>999 is completely irrelevant to the plot except for making junpei butthurt
>>343409426
Pretty sure it's impossible to finish in 12 hours because of the cinematics.
What a giant faggot
>>343412472No because she turns herself in. If she didn't they probably would've brought her to justice themselves.
Wait a minute... what if Kyle shifted to our consciousness while we were about to play ZTD in the future? Then Blick Winkel/? in VLR is actually ourselves before we got the chance to play ZTD, so naturally we wouldn't have any idea about what went down.
Kyle is literally us, right now.
>>343411840
999 had more useless characters than VLR.
Snake did nothing but go missing half the game and go full edge in one bad end
Santa did nothing but being a cunt all the game
Lotus did nothing except help in a puzzle in one escape room
Clover was Snake's luggage
9th man died 10 minutes in
Seven was comic relief
>>343412146
I realized she couldn't be trusted because of how she reacted when she grabbed the chainsaw, and her comment in the moon ending.
>mfw this fucking picture ended up being relevant
>>343412379
>Liking edgelord Junpei
>>343412540
I wish I had shop skills. A high res image of that with Akane's face and a extinguisher would be perfect.
>>343412507
You could see her stirring during the talk before, so presumably she heard everything.
>>343412157
>>343412264
The implication that the view the player sees is literally the cameras Zero set up isor even possibly we're seeing the events from the POV of Delta from his real eyes, MIND HACKING, glasses monitor, etc.makes sense for there to be only narration through dialogue, but yeah, it really didn't lend as well to the emotional impact. VLR and 999 were much stronger in that regard.
Even if we didn't get text, I wish we had gotten CGs or something, whether for the post-game files or the explanations of thought experiments. They really helped set the mood for the first two games. It's funny that fucking still pictures can be so effective sometimes.
>>343412146
Akane is one of the few characters who'd make me consider filing a divorce with my husbando.
>>343412739
Better than no personality Junpei
>>343412574>>999 is completely irrelevant to the plot except for making junpei butthurt
This is what bothered me. I was under the impression that Akane would have a personal grudge with Brother even after getting her revenge, but ultimately it seemed like she doesn't.
>>343412439
How did you even get there without seeing that? That's thezero reveal
>>343412698
All of them have pretty distinct personalities, which is the main thing. Saying Snake, Lotus, Clover, or Seven were useless is kind of a stretch, though. 9th man isn't a character at all.
>>343412681
Woah that'sstupid and unnecessaryl
>>343412146
>>343412851
>All of them have pretty distinct personalities, which is the main thing
So do VLR characters.
What, you think Dio and Luna are the same characters or something?
>>343412574>999 is completely irrelevant to the plot.
Bro, if Delta had never been born in ZTD, 999 would never have happened... And if Mira hadn't killed Eric's mom, then Akane's dad would never have died and she would never be kidnapped, causing her and Santa to recreate the escape games.
>>343412734
The artist must have SHIFTed back in time.
>>343412734
>tfw this picture didn't
>>343412489
I don't know man, the gruesome descriptions of murders and such felt much more vivid to me than 3D models awkwardly gushing out blood. Even if it was well animated I think I'd still prefer narrating, it was just so well-written.
So where the fuck did the brooch actually come from
>>343412791
Junpei made lots of dumb jokes all the time in 999.
>>343412779
>only narration through dialogue
Except there are also instances where we get to hear Carlos' thoughts.
>>343412917
>Carlos sucks at flirting
Moe as fuck.
>that scene whereCarlos tries to rape Akane for literally no reason
What the fuck?
>>343412942
I literally named the characters I had problems with in the post before that one, keep up. Dio is arguably the best character in VLR as he's the only one who creates any tension at all.
>>343412917
I wasn't convinced because everyone knows Carlos is a siscon
>>343412698
with this logic every character is useless other than one that player controls
who murderedjunpei? I'm assuming the same person who killedmira, but you never know
>>343413020
Fucking Gab
Thats exactly whyDelta killed him
>>343412998
>>343412734
Fuck, wrong one
>>343413105Mira kills Junpei. She also kills Phi, Sigma, and Diana. You can see her black nailpolish.
>>343413048
why not?
>>343413105
keep playing
>start game
>pickblue
>oh, finished already, they're kinda lucky i guess
>at the end of the gameyou absolutely fuck them off
This fucking game man. Your face when?
>>343413029
Oh yeah, whoops. Was Carlos the only character to express his thoughts?
If I were on Q Team, I would bemaking constant mean jokes at the expense of the blind and deaf old man.
>>343412950
All because of a solitary snail
>>343413048
Man need to satisfy his desires
>>343413241
Yeah, can't remember anyone else.
>>343413014
P A R A D O X
>Q team execution scene
>Very blatantly see blood pooling out from under Sean's body
I double checked after the reveal, that's just bullshit.
>>343413014
I think that's called the bootstrap paradox, something to do with it having no point of origin or some shit
>>343413212
I figured it was going to happen. The fact that timeline existed in the first place was a dead giveaway thatthey were going to jump there at some point.
>>343413212
Zero's explanation in Payoff 2 was even more bullshit.
So what did eric contribute to the story besides being a giant baby and also crazyshotgun wielding baby? Mira at least gets explained well, Eric just tagged along with her and did shitall besides be a cocksucker or whine
>>343413014
Closed paradox.
>Phi gets it from Diana, transported to 1904
>1904 baby grows up as a rich scientist, nabs a Phi to send to 2009 herself
>Phi grows up with Brooch and meets Diana, dies in whichever timeline it was to let Diana pilfer it
Repeat forever.
>>343413328
Snails are dicks. Fuck snails.
>>343413346
Well he is the character that decides the coin toss andwhether to shoot Delta or not
How did Mirafind Junpei and kill him, find Junpei alone, or get into D ward and murder everyone in D-team? Wasn't she supposed to be sleeping.
>>343412698
Clover was cute though.
>>343411738
That was the timeline where Carlos went against his letter and voted off Q-Team
Why did Mira kill Junpei?
How did Delta know she was going to cut him up?
Why didn't she take his heart?
Don't just say "she's a psycho", there were a ton of occasions where she could've murdered people and didn't, being alone with someone isn't an excuse.
>343413573No she wasnt, Delta explains that iirc
>>343413241
Yeah.
Eric kept having his weird fucking panic attacks or going crazy. Mira never really said anything until the apocalypse ending. Junpei and Akane never bothered because they were getting help from the outside, and Sigma might not have said anything because of the paradox.
The game's revelation ends in a fucking dud.Brother isn't really that much of a dick at all, and ended up sacrificing himself for the greater good.New characters, Diana, Sean and Carlos are alright but I thought Eric and Mira were poorly written.In hindsight I wish that Delta was an asshole with shift abilities just fucking up timelines and the player as Kyle would try to foil his plans. Also wish they put a limit on SHIFT. Lots of the emotional reactions that I would normally have seeing characters I like getting slaughtered just isn't there with this game because of death feeling so inconsequential because you shift to the next alternate timeline like nothing happened.
>>343412998
Why did they remove the Jumpy Jacket?
He looks so much better with it on
Do firemen really wear their helmets on top of their gas masks? Carlos looked ridiculous
>>343413736
Too hard to model
>>343413573
>>343413657
Lern2read: Zero let her wander around on her own, either telling her to do that or just watching it. Her bracelet didn't have the sleeping stuff, she was just pretending since she can't use memory fields.
She didn't really want Junpei's heart because his smile was shit.
>>343413573She was working with Zero and never gets injected. All of the wards are the same area, too.
>>343413615
>you will never date Clover
>you will never have to convince her not to axe murder someone out of her intense love for you
why even live
>>343413657I think the timeline where she killed Junpei was also the one where she killed Eric? She said she had only been looking for a similar heart to her first victim's (which belonged to Eric's mother) so I guess she felt at ease with that or didn't get similar vibes from the others in the bunker.
>>343413853
That doesn't answer any of those questions except the heart thing
>>343412779
>pic
So, SFM when?
>>343407172RABBIT-KILLING MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS
Delta's reveal might have had more punch if he didn't look fucking stupid.
>>343413521
Well.He was sort of the wild card just like Mira. Maybe he's only relevant because Mira convinced him to enter the dcom facility so she could kill him
And the funny thing is she looks mad as fuck in one of the endings where they both escape.
Is there any good reason why the memo system has an ink feature, and why erasing not only doesn't return, but seems to take up ink?
>>343413573
You'll find out. But if you really want to knowThere is only one ward and Mira is never given amnesia juice. She isn't even put to sleep sometimes so she can fuck around and create randomness
>Vote ally and he votes Betray
>Vote Betray and he votes Ally
Getting really tired of your bullshit Uchi
>>343414005I know there was only one ward but I must've missed the part where she never slept
>>343413313If Eric and Mira made around 100 cripple jokes Delta would've snapped and revealed himself. Sean would tell them to stop at first but eventually he'd join in and that would be the final straw
>>343411023
Oh fuck, better go the other way INSTEAD OF FUCKING JUMP OVER ITEric's mom was dumb
>>343414070
QUANTUM
MECHANICS
>>343414070
It's properly explained. Though, it made more sense to me because I picked betray first. I also expected him to go betray the first time because of how pessimistic and cynical he is in general this time around, so i was surprised.
>>343414070
>vote Ally to be killed by Grumpy Jumpy
>vote Betray to be killed by Citizen Akane
I remember why I got so pissed off at VLR now.
>>343414070
>He even says the "Last time, there was no last time" line
I liked Eric.
>>343413979
I get the feeling she actually liked Sean even if she didn't realize it herself. She was always siding with him and even got mad at eric a few times when he went retard at sean.Maybe an AI with fake emotions connected to her better to her than any normal human could?
>>343413521
Nothing. The only more worthless character in the game is the dog.
Nipple sizes differ
>>343414258
Eric needs a hug. One that doesn't end with a scalpel in his back.
Literally did nothing wrong.
>>343414274
TAKE THAT BACK
>>343414115
its whenzero reveals he killed her
>>343414181>Eric's mom was dumbThat was Eric's mom? Man I missed that. Also how the fuck is Eric okay with that after he found out about the killings she did.
>>343414070
It was a funny jab for everyone who played VLR
>>343414217
you ally and they betray
>kek why would u believe a stranger faggot, get fucked
vote betray and they ally
>WAAAAAAAAAH YOU ASS HOLE HOW COULD YOU WAAAAAAAH
fuck the AB game. same shit happened in VLR
>EverytimeSeangot strangled byEriche was justPRETENDINGto make those noises
God damn it.
>>343414390
>after he found out about the killings she did
he never does
>>343414419
DAMN YOU BRAT
Where the fuck is the booklet in the PC version?
So is the PAL 3DS version not getting a physical copy?
>>343414070
>But you voted Betray last time!
Never gets old.
>>343414258
The absolute worst example of writing in this game is during the teleporter revelation when Diana, Sigma, Carlos and Sean are trying to appease him proving their innocence of Mira's murder by dialogue-in-lieu-of-narration.
>>343414490
No, now go buy it digital.
>>343413657
>Why did Mira kill Junpei?
Mira is the kind of person who wants to see the world burn! There are lot of moments where she starts acting like a full psycho just for fun, like when you inject radical 6 in the whole Q team, the "reward" she gives to phi, she pretty much just killed jumpei only to see the reaction of the other two!
Anyone have the mega for the booklet + soundtrack? Got it on 3DS like an idiot.
I waited 4 years for this?
Literally had a deadbeat ex-husband who she kept giving money and sex too.
Hot.
Porn when?
>>343414418
Alice was a shit.
>How dare you betray me, I should get to pick what room I want to go in next since I'm at the biggest disadvantage. Don't hang out with me during the next free time either.
>lol, you're dumb for choosing Ally. Also, I get to choose the next door because. Also, I'm going to hang out with you during free time and remind you that you're a shithead and then try to kill you after you save my life.
>>343413971
>Changed Akane's sleeves because it was too hard
>Removed Junpei's jacket because it was too hard
>Didn't make Eric asymmetric because it was too hard
Just make a damn novel at this point, they really don't have the budget for this shit.
>>343414578
Man, such shitty characterization
>>343414273
Fuck.
That makes a lot of sense.
Except for that partWhen she "killed" Sean because he started talking about the serial killer and kept looking at her nervously
>>343414590
>https://mega.nz/#!95lSTJ5R!tmUL5emhwthMNpgmSntEnk4qr8xGI6o9l5guI7nnzRM
>>343414717
thanks man
>>343414214
How do the conversations go when you pick betray first?
>>343414782
>>343414717
No problem! Thanks to whoever uploaded them originally.
I wish there were a few more notes in there though. There's no details on ZeroAKA Delta.
>>343414467
>he never does
You didn't read the files after beating the game.
>>343414419
quantum computing
I swear half of my time playing this game has been me trying to figure out how to unlock fragments.
So I'm stuck at the door of truth and the fq boxes. Apparantly I need to get C team to go through some sort of SHIFT phase that occurs after the AB game in the boy and ring fragment. Problem is that I have no clue how to unlock this fragment. Currently, C-team has 4 [?] fragments, Q-team has two [?] fragments and D-team has one [?] fragment.
I have the thumbs up and skull marks highlighted and have went through all the execution options multiple times.
Ás for the global flowchart, there's a string of question marks below the don't press cinematic. Two question marks below circle of fate (1). More question marks under the drink cinematic, but those are from the boy and ring fragment I believe. There's also 4 locks under Anthropic Principle, the 99.537 reality, I don't know and Carlos' sin.
Please help.
>>343414630
>tfw thought she was going to be a loli in this game ;_;
>>343412552
I was cracking up at that because of the diana WHOOPS gif
That one cutscene where theSean clonewas trying to murder team C was fucking horrendously animated. Was the game this low on budget?
>>343414480
In the game folder, idiot.
>>343414636
Who was worse. Alice or Dio?
Dio was a dick in every fucking segment he's in
Alice stopped you from escaping and made sure to bitch and moan whenever possible
>>343414859
>"I wanted to protect Diana and Sigma because I thought you'd pick Betray to protect Akane. But the shield to protect ended up becoming a spea-"
>"Motherfucker, did I just hear you killing Junpei in here?"
>>343414630
How old is she in ZTD?
>>343414258
I came to appreciate him as the only person in the vlr universe without an encyclopedic knowledge of probabilites and philosophical conundrums
>>343414636
alice was definitely the worse about it. but the rest save luna were cunts about it as well (not really counting DIO since he doesn't even pretend to anything but a douche)
shit it makes me think if i had the ability to shift i would become incredibility bitter, just one betray and the smugness that came from the other characters makes me not care about their deaths
I think what's kind of funny is thatyou can get to the sigma half of the VLR ending pretty quickly, but then you spend like half of the fragments just getting Carlos to it while he thinks he's doing good and saving everybody. Then his fucking face at the end
So what happens regarding Sigmaand original Sigma back in VLR? Get fucked, I saved the Earth and have a bitching wife?
>>343412572
He think it's a teleporter, that's why he ignored it
>>343414717
Booklet answers when? These puzzle explanations are terrible.
>>343415223
Go watch Back to the Future
>>343414717
>>343414935
Neat, thanks
>>343414636
but the titty be big
>>343413191
>>343413185
>>343413105
I've seen all the fragments and read the files, I still don't know when it's revealedmiradid it
did she figure out theroom trick?
ohhh waitdelta did say something about mira being a collaborator, right?
How the FUCK do i access the premium booklet, any time i try to download it launches my game instead.
So can we all agree that Junpei is the best ZE dad?
>>343415298
>name of the gif
Fuck, you got me.
>>343415054
Alice. Dio may have been an asshole, but you could always trust him to be an asshole. The consistency was refreshing.
>>343414636
>mfwthey pulled the exact same shit with Carlos/Junpei
>>343414992
Answer I don't know when Eric gets the shotgun
Do the reactor puzzle and pick both decisions, it should lead you to a 3rd. Make sure you also did the rec room puzzle and repeated the "decision" at least 3 times.
Also, pick both decisions after you do the biolab puzzle on Q team.
>>343415005
Were you not tipped off by the miniscule number of animations for anything at all combined with the camera showing random environments every time the characters had to do something they didn't have an animation for?
>>343415456
This
He also wasn't self righteous as fuck.
DON'T WORRY, I WON'T D-
>>343415054
Alice. Dio was a dick with a plan. Alice was just a moody cunt.
>>343414992
Have you triedwaiting when Eric asks who killed Mira? Also check the fragment after the puzzle room with Junpei bits and press the buttons for those. At some point the kill Akane choice updates with more stuff to advance the carlos line
>>343415005
The budget was probably a few beers and some doritos
>That Junpei and Akane "conflict"
>Dog is killed off for no reason
>Next to nothing on Left, Free the Soul, "?", Kyle
>Eric forgives Mira for killing his mother
>No one reacts to Mira killing them in other timelines
>THERE WAS AN OLD GUY OFFSCREEN THE WHOLE TIME LMAO
>>343415613
>Eric forgives Mira for killing his mother
Eric's mother also forgave Mira for killing her
>>343415054
Alice is my waifu so I believe that it's the radical-6 that's making her act like an inconsistent bitch.
>>343415230
We know why Carlos ignored it, but we know that he still just blew up the other two.
>>343415613
stupid frogposter
>>343409992
>But he wasn't there for the non-Q decisionsI don't think he needs proximity to mind control people, he can see everything with his glasses so he did control people, like the time Diana says she doesn't know why she voted
>>343415394
Delta explicitly tells you that Mira killed Junpei in the reveal scene.
Reminder that Marty McFly is a murderer.
>>343415425
I wonder what happens to Quark in the non-ZTD and Mira notbeing a serial killertimelines.
>>343415124
The change in the threads' perception of Eric from reveal to post-game is marvelous. From creepy ice cream man who can't be trusted tothe sole normie of the series.
Well? Which one was it?eric and mila were shit tier, I mean zero
>>343415613
I don't even remember who Left was by this point. Uchikoshi probably forgot too.
I liked the moments where Akane was suffering seeing Junpei's state in the early game.
>>343415946
Elder god tierToo complex for mere mortals to understand
>>343415946
Elder God tier
Literally did nothing fucking wrong
I don't care what you all say, Mira is still a sex goddess. Hard to concentrate on Q cutscenes due to how sexy she was.
34 when?
>>343415124
Eric confirmed for a representation of the player
i honestly havent heard of half the stuff they talk about
>>343416025
Wouldn't that make him meh tier?
>>343415739
That doesn't explain the comment in D's execution though.
Alright someone explain some shit to meWhy did no one mention the fucking Old Man that was with them at any point? Why didnt they find it weird that they talked about 3 groups of 3 but there was actually a group of 4? Is the ending REALLY just a cliffhanger on whether they let him live or not? No extra scene for 100%ing?
>>343413014
ayylien magic
>>343414602
it wasn't really that bullshit, we've always knownbrotherwas the most powerful esper
>>343416105
Meh tier is if their plan is insane and incomprehensible. His plan is merelycomplex
>>343414630
she was in an abusive relationship and got beaten and raped you fuck
>>343415981
Delta's adoptive brother who got murdered leaving Delta in despair so he founded Free the Soul to make a better humanity by removing what he considered filth and using the morphogenetic field to ascend to a higher state of being.
>>343416203
They did mention him, play the game again.
>>343416047
She's too much of a whore, there's nothing attractive about that.
It's like playing a game on easy, there's no satisfaction when there's no challenge. A pure maiden on hard mode like Diana is far more attractive.
>>343416152
They mention him all the time
>>343415223
Sigma has to go through building VLR in order to get his years back with his family
>>343414602
It was already established that Brother had the ability to read minds and shit -- it would've been more subtle if they just said Brother had the ability to implant ideas or notions into people's minds rather than lol I MIND HACK U
>>343414992
remember you can always let time run out at decisions
remember evil things have to happen
most of the passwords and answers come from clearly marked endings
>>343416152
Pretty sure he's dead, based on C's epilogue from the notes.To me it seems like they sort of wrote Phi out of the game in a way. I understand the focus was on Sigma and Diana, but the end of VLR really foreshadowed Phi playing a massive role.
>>343416047
I wonder if she can even feel good during sex
>>343415613
>forgetting ayy lmao
>>343416152
>Why didnt they find it weird that they talked about 3 groups of 3 but there was actually a group of 4?
That's exactly why Eric is so paranoid.
>Why did no one mention the fucking Old Man that was with them at any point?
So we can have a twist,DUH. Also they do mention him.
>Is the ending REALLY just a cliffhanger on whether they let him live or not? No extra scene for 100%ing
Open ending, not a cliffhanger. You get some files.
>>343415803
I completely missed that, probably freaking out overshit character design
>>343415494
>Answer I don't know when Eric gets the shotgun
>Make sure you also did the rec room puzzle and repeated the "decision" at least 3 times.
>Also, pick both decisions after you do the biolab puzzle on Q team.
Done.
>Do the reactor puzzle and pick both decisions, it should lead you to a 3rd.
I have no idea what reactor puzzle is. Do you mean gun and incinerator?
>>343416090
Honestly, childhood trauma aside, the way Eric acts is probably the way most people would act in that situation.
Uchikoshi is about to start up a new IP and he's doing a cinematic style game again like ZTD.
He has unlimited funds -- which company should he work with to help make his game? Pic unrelated but best boy.
>>343416152
>Why did no one mention the fucking Old Man that was with them at any point?People mention Q but this is explicitly used to refer to Sean at several points, likely in error. The only explicit mention of the old man is in the Q decontamination room scene which is pretty bullshit.
>Why didnt they find it weird that they talked about 3 groups of 3 but there was actually a group of 4?The non-Q teams didn't know that Sean was with Q team until they met up. But it still isn't really addressed.
>Is the ending REALLY just a cliffhanger on whether they let him live or not? No extra scene for 100%ing?
That's correct.
>>343416419
Which is weird, cause in the VLR timeline she shouldn't have known what she was, which is implied at the end of VLR.
>>343415613
the dog was killed so Delta could prove he was mind-hacking eric
Is there any way to get the full soundtrack?
>>343416423
>This was also foreshadowing
More couples need to be doing the horizontal tango in life or death situations
Was there any post ending files for D team?
I didn't get any besides the original two Post-Apocalypse ones.
>>343416228
She already had the divorced, Diana gave in when the ex came back asking for money or sex.
>>343416152Nobody outside of Q team knew about Sean being a part of the team, which is why they're all confused when they meet up later. They thought "Q" was referring to the old man.
It also didn't help that Q team was the short bus team.
>>343416482
Reactor is a team C fragment
>>343416446
>Open ending, not a cliffhanger.
It'd just be an open ending if there wasn't a new crisis regarding all of humanity that now has to be resolved.
If Zero really was the big bad and had no greater goals and the only remaining question was whether he was killed or not that would be an open ending. As is, it's a cliffhanger / sequel hook.
MIND HACK
>>343416152
It was mentioned though.
It was just really subtle.
In one cutscene, Eric refers to some wheel chair bound old guy.
In another cutscene, Sigma talks about how it was unfair since "he had that disability, couldn't see or hear anything"
And after that when Eric starts referring to the kid assean
Also, in the library fragment. If you pick nobody, Eric shoots and there's an odd shadow. And if you enterQ and then Deltahe dies, and Mira asks why you shot him...
>>343416537
>He has unlimited funds -- which company should he work with to help make his game?
Spike Chunsoft, why would he change? The Danganronpa openings are really well done, just expensive.
>>343416537
Diana was such a beta that she continued to allow her husband to beat, rape, and berate her in such a way that every single one of Diana's coworkers knew about it
>>343416796
you sure that's not just the mini-soundtrack? I own the game, I just want every track
>>343416537
Level-5
>>343416757
Welp, I don't even have the reactor fragment.
>>343416906
Yeah, it was the mini-soundtrack, damn it.
>>343416775
>a new crisis regarding all of humanity that now has to be resolvedDelta just letting them go most likely means that they will solve this crisis. He knows this becauseMIND HACKbullshit. It's stupid, but not really a cliffhanger
>>343416906
It's 12 tracks, I guess that's the mini soundtrack? no idea where you'd get the rest, sorry
>>343416832
Spike just publish the game. ZTD was developed by Chime which I've actually never even heard of prior to this game. Judging from the amazing animations, I'm guessing they are quite low budget.
>>343416423
Speaking of that pic, why was the localisation so shit this time? That there was them rewriting "sex" into "horizontal tango", but all around the localisation was arse and full of grammatical errors.
So, what are the chances thatMira and Eric are Akane's, or Eric's parents?
>Sigma and Phi spend the whole of VLR developing their SHIFTing ability
>practically never fucking use it in ZTD other than like right at the end even though it would have helped them numerous times
>Team C uses the ability a bunch of times
>>343416775
They don't have enough content to make another game. There is nothing more to resolve, crash keys can deal with any fanatical terrorist.
>>343416537
Vanillaware
Namco BandaiFrom Software and Platinum Games :^)
>>343416228
Diana is an even bigger beta than Eric. Literally let her husband beat, rape, and berate her in such a way that every single one of her co workers knew about it
Do I need to power something first in the control room before aligning the knobs? I'm kinda stuck here and the knobs feel like the only puzzle I have clear hints for but I can't seem to get it right.
>>343416671
You know what else is foreshadowed?
>Sigma and Diana are trapped in shelter
>Deceased Participants on Status Screen: Carlos, Junpei, Q, Mira, Eric, Phi
>Sigma and Diana have twins
>Deceased Participants on Status Screen: Carlos, Junpei, Mira, Eric
>>343410316
He literally joined detective forces to find her.
He might disagree with her methods, but he still loves her and love is stupid like that.
>expected ending to wrap everything up
>instead we've got a room for ZE4
What the fuck Uchi?
>>343416537Quantic Dream
>>343417121
Though I heard the PC port was chunsoft, so maybe you're right.
I really didn't have any problems besides the animations, it was quite well programmed. The launcher hasn't worked once tho.
>>343417183Teach I expected Phi and Sigma to be the master shifters, not C team. In fact were there ever any instances where old Sigma's knowledge came in handy? It didn't seem like he was much better then young sigma at escape games
>>343417103
That's a pretty shit attitude to take, you may as well say that we didn't need to see ZTD because we knew Sigma would succeed after VLR, or that we didn't need VLR to find out what happened after 999's closure-lacking ending.
>>343417186
If crash keys could deal with it then there would have been no reason for ZTD to even happen. The entire point of ZTD was to get these 9 people together to be able to save the world.
FUCK AMAZON. Last time I buy anything from those fuckers.
>>343417270
What the fuck
>>343416812
>And after that when Eric starts referring to the kid assean
This was stupid as shit, they never call him by name once for the entire time and then suddenly throw his name around every time they refer to him. It wasn't natural at all.
>>343407481
Phi was really cute like when she got Diana to hug her.
>people really think that it was a cliffhanger ending
>>343417270
Fuck you, no way
How many times a week?
>>343417313
You are literally the sort of person who'd say 999 ended in a cliffhanger, when it was self contained
Refer to>>343417103
It ended, no need for 4th game
Although it wont stop uchi for expanding on it and making one if ztd succeeds
>>343416419
"Phi is important" ended up being "her brooch is important".
>>343417493
Dude, I hear you, the whole situation with the watch edition is bullshit.Spent the 10 bucks they gave me with Prime savings and essentially got Tokyo Mirage Sessions for 40 bucks though, so eh.
>>343416275
But I guess that wasn't his motive, and the shit you learned about brother in VLR was a lie :)
>>343417537
>Mira is supposed to be some sex goddess
>her ingame model makes her look like a crack addicted whore (albeit with very huge tits)
Lotus was much hotter
and so was Alice, but she's a bitch
BUT WHO WROTE THE NOTE WITH ANAGRAM ON IT? WHOOOOOOOOO
>>343417270
This is rather ruined by the screen being completely blank when visible in the background for the several intermittent scenes. All the names are wiped.
Do you think Delta loves his parents?
>>343417432
>That's a pretty shit attitude to take
I just don't want more power creep in this series. We went from, saving a single girl, to saving 6 billion people to saving humanity. Clearly the terrorist will be anAYYthat wants to save the galaxy by destroying earth.
What the hell am I doing wrong with the stungun, am doing 154263 but it says failed, holy shit.
Stuck near the endI have 1 locked fragment in c and d teams and 3 locked in Q team
Last thing I did was the force quit part of C team where carlos 'tries' to rape akane
I dont know the password for Q team quit box
Things left on the flowchart:
Q team quit box and the last part of that timeline
Second timeline after you dont press the button
Forth timeline 'get back' after carlos makes eric shoot him to shift
No ! marks on the flowchart only ? On the simplified flowchart I see all the unlocked parts all cleared
>>343417779
No. Just his mom.
>>343417736
if you use the japanese voices she's not too bad
So for 10 months there were TWO Carlos roaming the earth?
>>343417671
999 :^)
>>343416537
Platinum Games
>>343417270
It's almost too fast to even notice.
Had to rewatch them.
>yfw diana took all of sigmas 18 inches
>>343417736
Lotus was easily the best of the fan service females.
>>343417696
>You are literally the sort of person who'd say 999 ended in a cliffhanger, when it was self contained
It did, you dipshit. The ending offered no closure at all, it ended with Junpei chasing after Akane and teasing about All-Ice (which then got thrown out).
It was in itself a largely complete story but saying the ending wasn't an unresolved sequel hook is just plain bullshit.
>>343417432
I just said "crash keys" as a placeholder for whatever group of shifters/espers Akane has teamed up with for now including Carlos and possibly his sister. Radical-6 is not an issue anymore, in ZTD we have found that timeline in which Radical-6 is not a thing anymore.
The point is not the thwarting of the religious fanatic, but the creation of the possibility through the game's events. That's why Zero forfeits his life to Carlos at the end. His purpose is complete.
>that ending
They played us like a damn fiddle!
>>343417816
far left means you start with that one
>>343417732
Why? His aim was never to kill all of humanity. Nothing of what he does in ZTD conflicts with that.
>>343417808
>I don't want more power creep in the series
I think that was one of the things that detracted from the experience in ZTD was that shifting and jumping was way too prevalent and it really reduced the gravity of the situation when you know you can literally change your decision 10 seconds later.
It was cool when they first introduced it in VLR, but by the time the third game rolled around, it was already getting a bit old.
That being said, I really enjoyed C-team's SHIFTing shenanigans. Carlos and Junpei gave no fucks and just threw their lives away and it was very entertaining
>>343418058
He is starting with that one. Based on the numbers he just gave I have no idea why it's not working.
>>343417139
Zero.Mira just caused the deaths of both eric and akane's parents
>>343417905WRECK
>Still no 999 Vita port
ITS NOT FAIR
>>343412808
Why would she has grudge with Brother?
>>343417589
>That fucking image
I don't really see how it was a cliff hanger.Since he figured everything out by mind hacking someone in payoff 2, and explained that he got what he wanted without even doing anything
Also in the end files, it explains a lot of things.
>>343417406
Nope. And after 45 years of planning he goes back into the past and starts blurting shit about the future and 6 billion people dying as soon as he gets into dcom like a retard. No wonder he could never find the right timeline that fixes things
So what exactly was the point of Q-team? They do absolutely nothing besides sabotaging the other teams.
>>343418162
That wasyoung Mira.Old Mira jumps into past, and I dunno it could make some sense.
>>343414630
I want rule 34 of her. She's delicious.
just finished the game
the ending was shitwhy does fucking Mira get away with everything
>>343418380
READ THE NOTES
>>343418198
Didn't he tease how there's gonna be a "vital steam boat" or something like that which was basically a confirmed port for vita and steam?
>>343418294
I agree, I'm implying people who thought that are morons
>>343418151
Left the room for the time being, I'll try later
>>343417406I suppose Sigma had to go back in time and fuck Phi into existence, but I agree, it seemed like the AB game was ultimately pointless since C-team kinda did all the work.
>>343410701
Any grouchyness that you may have instantly goes away once you have a harem.
>>343417838
Who the fuck would not use the Japanese voices, really?
This dub was so budget that it only has 2/3 the size of the Japanese cast, and 3 of the dub actors are literally just family members of the guy who owned the recording studio they used.
>>343418314Eric sabotaging everyone was important to know the secret of the lounge
Can we make sure to add to every new thread
>READ THE FUCKING NOTES AFTER YOU BEAT THE GAME
>THE BOOKLET TOO
>IF YOU'RE STUCK LET THE TIMER RUN OUT AND MAKE SURE TO CHECK EVERY FRAGMENT FOR ! AFTER DOING EVERY DECISION
>>343418426
They broke her out, she still pretty much got away with it.
>>343417910
I think we can all agree there
>>343417743
Kyle :^)
>>343418142
>>343418142
>I'm posting this every day until you like it!
Is there any character that can defeat Uchiha Sean?
And I'm not talking about stock factory model Sean.
Hell, I'm not talking about Sean 729 after having merged with the quatum computer that controls the timeflow of infinite timelines.
I'm talking about Dark Super Saiyan God Sean, a GAULEM that has orders to kill SHIFTers, can run like Naruto, has red eyes ,a dark purple color palette and is able to exterminate ANY snail in a seventeen year radius with a mere thought
>>343418679
C O M P L E X Wesker
>>343418137
>Carlos and Junpei gave no fucks and just threw their lives away and it was very entertaining
Oh yes, it was. Too bad Sigma and Phi never really tried to stop Zero with their power. I thought that in the scene where Phi tells Sigma to kill himself to see how the X-Passes work, he would just do it. In the end they did nothing really.
> shifting and jumping was way too prevalent and it really reduced the gravity of the situation when you know you can literally change your decision 10 seconds later
I really disliked how every character could SHIFT in one way or another in the end. Would have been great to have a non-SHIFTer that calls them out on leaving him behind or something like that, as it would certainly add an extra layer to the last decision.
>>343407481
Phi.
She Dive Kicked a 120+ year old dude. She's a keeper.
>>343418679
mindhack to kill self
>>343418142
HE HATES IT
>>343418286
Because Ace was a member of Free the Soul. But I suppose making Ace kill his cohorts and then bringing him to justice was enough for her.
>>343418832
Such a well made video game robot
>>343418772
>>343418832
How can you mindhack a machine? Checkmate atheists.
>>343418913
He was mindhacked to press the yellow button
>>343418142
DAMN BRAT.
I HATE IT.
>>343418875
To be fair he was only part of FTS for the funding. Though now I wonder why they had FTS robes in 999. Did Ace use them in the 2018 game?
>>343418679
Sigma "18 Inches" Klim
>>343417779
>shoots sigma himself
>leaves diana alive while she's freaking out and calls her mama
One of them at least
>>343414992
I figured it out. I still needed to off Sigma in the gun vs. incinerator part. Had to replay the scene 11 times before it happened.
PUSH THE BUTTON DIANA
>tfw realizing all that time in vlr thatsigma was hitting on his own daughter
incest doujins when?
>>343419071
IIRC Uchikoshi said they were there because Ace ran ceremonies in that chapel.
>>343416947
>Level-5
Zero Escape but with shotas and lolis?
>>343418973
But anon, that was the result of the player interfering with the character.
![[Anime-Koi] GJ-bu - 04 [h264-720p][8B0017F2].mkv_snapshot_09.03_[2013.02.01_19.36.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HMizt5X.jpg "[Anime-Koi] GJ-bu - 04 [h264-720p][8B0017F2].mkv snapshot 09.03 [2013.02.01 19.36.25]")
>>343419195
>Phi wanted her dad's dick and got NTR'd by her own mother
>>343417671
Won't she get really wet?
>>343416812
I wish people would make a collage of all those subtle moments where delta is referenced, as I missed most of them and i think it'd be fun to see.
>>343418832
>But the knob that made me decided I needed to have one of 'em what's it called....
>"PUR-SO-NAL-I-TIES"
>and they decided to do that with an accent.
Wankers.
Literally the best character.
>>343418198
>yfw they port 999 to pc and vita
>it's the ios version
>>343416537
Quantic Dream.
>>343418823
How the fuck did he not die from that? People half his age can do serious damage to themselves just from tripping over themselves. I'm surprised his ribcage didn't cave in.
>>343416868
>not knowing how a abusive relationship functions
How would a dog do it?
>>343419456
MIND HACK
>>343412510
I felt really sad on that ending up until the part whereheads began to roll.
Like, there's no reason for him to still be there but he is.
Can someone upload the booklet without the soundtrack?
>>343418554
The other thing about Lotus was that she was a decent character.
She was very cold and calculating, but everything she said made sense. Sure a lot of people got butthurt over some of her choices and decisions, but each of them were literally the best case scenario (i.e. least amount of people die).
Alice was just a bitch and Mira is lol im crazy and i touch hearts
>>343419425
People in their 120s are generally not even alive. Hell, there's only even a record of one person living to over 120, ever. And yet Delta has no explanation for his fitness at all. Why even make him that old? Why not just send Delta and Phi back to 1950 instead? You get the same concept but with less ridiculous ages.
>>343417743
Wait what note?
Please god fucking save me, the booklets instructions are so fucking bad.
>>343419602
https://mega.nz/#!FJg1EBYI!dvlA4guPBLPhzPkHbZn5uwKoQn6ICwVmgiuC0l8yh04
Get to work on those bullshit puzzles, matey. And enjoy your painfully low resolution.
>>343419845
Thank you anon.
>>343417103
Mind hack was not bullshit, it was hinted at in VLR.
>>343419825
Here's the codefatass
>>343418163
I already did all of that, that other guy had left 2 Q team fragments, I have 3 left to unlock and I'm more advaced
From left to right the fragments I have to unlock for Q team are
First row second
Second row first and second
I can't find any decision to imput something new I can only think of some bug in the game at this point
>Sigma sobbing naked in the shower because of diana
jesus christ
>>343417743
Gab, duh
>>343411162
Fuggggggg, being Sigma is suffering, def nmbr 1 in my heart tho.
>>343419825
I know, right? I have this shit done but I can't even fathom the rest between the cryptic nature of the puzzles and the god-awful instructions.
>>343419961
The mind reading part I can buy
But getting someone to turn a gun on themselves? pls senpai. At MOST it should've been the power of telepathic suggestion, not an outright control
>>343419696
Anagram
>>343411162
>a grown man, with an even older mind at that.
>crying in the shower
What a pussy.
>yfw that timeline where Eric upgrades from a shotgun to afucking grenade launcher
>>343419987
>I can't find any decision to imput something new I can only think of some bug in the game at this point
the boxes don't show up in the flowchart for some reason
click on every single fragment, as long as you don't have a lock in everything that means you're not stuck
What are the anagrams?
All in all, I liked how it ended. It could've been much better, but I didn't really expect everything to be tied up nicely. There was just too much shit to take care of. At least it's finished plot-wise and thematically, both as a series and a standalone game.
What I liked is that the amount ofDeltaforeshadowing is fucking enormous when you replay the fragments. Almost every Q fragment and bunch of others provide clues.Heh, my motives are too complex, kid.
*Mindhacks behind you*
>>343418679
regular sean is as strong fyi, when carlos tries to list the force escape box he's like "shit fuck this is heavy" but sean lifts it easily as if it's an empty cardboard box.
>>343419961The ability is mostly fine. Bullshit as in how it was used to justify most of his actions without further explanation. For example, who gave him the information about MUH8BILLION before the decision game?
>>343420086
But in VLR it was said brother could control people.
It's only as bullshit as shifting or seeing your future like Akane does.
>>343420232>fires a grenade at Sean at point blank range
>somehow has enough time to run halfway across the room and take cover
dont those things have a minimum distance before they arm as well? i just thought that scene in particular was super dumb
>>343418314
Mira spreaded thr Radical-6, so I guess thats important
We absolutely needed Eric manning the shutgun, we had no one else for that job.
Sean's existential crisis single handedly opened the FQB, which was better than destroying the world and faster than making babies.
>>343420047
You canswitch the 8s and 5s in the middle column in Junpei's puzzle
>>343420047(you can switch the 8 and 5 in the middle boxes around and get a working answer as well)
(You then take the A from Save to see A=10 and if you put 5 in the top you get 2+1+5+2=10=A meaning if you want to pick save you pick 5 there.)
(Then, K = 20, so 3+5+6+4+2=20, which means if you want to pick kill you put the 8 in the bracelet slot.)
(Then you solve for Akane's bracelet slots using either 8 or 5 getting yourself the two answers for hers.)
(To get your fucking letter after all that A=10 B=11 C=12... and so on.)
FUCKING GOD BLESS.
Then you can start figuring out the fucking absurdly complex reasoning and bullshit from the other puzzles! enjoy!
>>343420409
It was never explained if he had to be in the presence of someone to read their minds, so I imagine he just gets his information from the morphogenetic field.
He also has lived for 124 years, so even if he does need to be in the presence of shifters to read their minds, there is no reason to think he couldn't have learned of the terrorist beforehand. You're overthinking it man.
The whole "complex motives" shit really feels like Uchikoshi had no idea why he even did half the shit in the story and wanted a quick out.
It's no better than FF8 dismissing the entire subject of Ultimecia's motives with "there may be reasons but it doesn't matter".
>>343420275
zero time dilemma = me? I'm zero. I'm delta.
>>343419825
>>343420047
What's that, I don't remember it from the game.
>>343420685
The complex motives were:
- setting up Sigma and Diana so they could fuck in on of the timelines and Delta while Sigma had superpowered Jizz.
- Training the shifters and "getting them in the right mindset" (whatever that means) so they can catch the terrorist.
They aren't complex at all, but they actually were explained so your complaint and comparison are invalid on that regard.
>>343420773
Woah, you're right.
Neat stuff.
The answer was there all along.
>>343420275
They all mean something so I'll spoiler themThe truth is invisible
Together with me, we are ten. LDAET left over which makes Delta
What you choose can materialize us
>>343420418
>But in VLR it was said brother could control people.
>It's only as bullshit as shifting or seeing your future like Akane does.
Right, but the morphogenetic field was mention constantly throughout 999. Shifting was a fucking gameplay mechanic. It wasn't something a single character had. BOTH were an important part of their respective stories. MIND HACK is a Mary Sue power, that only Delta the Oldhog has for some reason. Oh also it's only used when he feels like it. He wants specific outcomes, but he wont abuse it to get the outcomes he wants? pls. Meanwhile Shift and Morphogenetic field is abused to hell, as it should be. Just a poorly written power
>>343418137
That's essentially the point!
Delta is pissed that no one cares about what happens in each timeline, ala Junpei from VLR. To the SHIFTers they're just immortal, but to the people who can't SHIFT they're fucking everyone else over in that timeline. That's part of the point of Akane getting so upset at Junpei about his plan, because it was horrific (and led to the thing they were trying to prevent in the first place, ultimately).
Delta's whole deal is not really that he had a grand plan, overall he's just trying to make a point.
>>343420965
Another complex motive: Getting the radical 6 released so VLR can happen, and Old Sigma and Phi can SHIFT into ZTD Siggy and Phido
>>343420047
>Killing Akane
Asshole
>>343420654
>there is no reason to think he couldn't have learned of the terrorist beforehand
Then why didn't Akane too?Look I know it's a bootstrap paradox. Everything has to happen the way it does because it happened like this beforeI'm just saying it feels like bullshit because it's not even hinted at at all how he got the information. For all we know he could be lying.
>>343421340
Akane can only see vision of other Akanes in the timeline, while Delta can see everyone's if he wanted, perhaps?
>>343421173
That's just part of his plan to watch his parents fuck, not a whole new motive.
>>343420047
>>343420590
>Sigma's puzzle
>Think "hey I get to play VLR /tg/ edition"
>The rules doesn't explain what to do if you reach the goal early or what to do if you get a mixed color and a neutral color.
>>343421340
>I'm just saying it feels like bullshit because it's not even hinted at at all how he got the information
Well, he did say he finds out information about other timelines through the shifters. It's not a big stretch to say he found out about 8 billions that way.
>>343421038
>It wasn't something a single character had. BOTH were an important part of their respective stories.
You seriously didn't suspect anything when characters said that something made them push the yellow button? It was hinted during the story that something could control their actions. And in VLR it was said that Brother could control people.
>He wants specific outcomes, but he wont abuse it to get the outcomes he wants?
Except he did, he used it to get all the outcomes he wanted. He needed them to experience all timelines before going back.
>MIND HACK is a Mary Sue power, that only Delta the Oldhog has for some reason.
That's like saying Akane's ability to see future timelines without shifting is a Mary Sue power, it isn't.
>Just a poorly written power
So because it isn't used a lot it's poorly written? That's stupid, it's used only when it's needed, which is when Delta needs an specific timeline to happen.
>>343421512
Well if Akane is able to stop the terrorist in the true ending timeline, then she should be able to live long enough to die in the 8 billion one.
>tfw noblick winkel
>>343421609
Maybe that timeline didn't exist until now.
>>343411824
Do you have all the executions?
>>343417270
someone post screenshots. i tried to find it (checked all the cutscenes that lead to d end 2) and in the spots where the board appears all names are blank
>>343421774
This screen, Anon.
>>343421874
Hory sheet
>>343421874
Huh. I never checked the screen more than once or twice and I never realised that the portraits changed when the characters died.
>>343421737
If it exists now, then it always existed for her past self.
>>343416670
sleep tight writer
>go through all that shit as Carlos
>make advance after advance, figure you're closing in on the major story elements
>everything you did sets up the VLR timeline
>every carlos has to have done this considering akane and junpei die in that timeline so he has to replace them
>>343421874
Eric and Junpei's dolls will always look the weirdest to me
>>343421038
> he wont abuse it to get the outcomes he wants
who do you think made carlos, diana and sean press that button that made the other teams have acid showers?
>>343416812
I think there was also one fragment where Sean finds some mysterious spots in the lounge, and implies that he forgot about Delta or something.
The Q death-ticks only going off when Sean died were kind of bad too, unless that only happened when they all died, I can't remember.
So let me get this straight:Because Mira Killed Eric's mom:
Akane's father was convicted for the crime and her mother killed herself
The Surgeon that could have saved Sean's life died in a car crash because the Taxi Akane's father called went to the Surgeon instead of him
then the events of 999, VLR, and ZTD take place
Did I get that right?
>>343421874
Holy shit, that's awesome. Pretty good foreshadowing.
>>343422036
does anyone have screenshots of what the rest of them look like
>>343422140
>Tfw Akane and Junpei from VLR aren't the originals from that timeline but 3D clones from another
Knowing this makes me think differently about VLR suddenly
>>343422274
Eric literallylooks at the camera (Delta) and says "What do you think old man?"
>>343422069
Following that logic, she should've known the answer to the sudoku in 999.
>>343421552
But consider this:The bunker was a black box and no SHIFTer jumped to before the time they were trapped there. He had no way of knowing that he needed to construct the bunker for the game, who needed to take part and all that other stuff.
>>343419124
I want to learn to draw solely so that I can make porn.
>>343422365
also eric's dad started becoming abusive and murdered his brother chris, causing eric to be his unstable self he is in ztd.
>>343422140
>That pic
I wonder what happened to Phi after that event. How did she lived with herself after that.
>>343422365
Yup
>>343417126
It wasn't "localized". It was made with English in mind.
I'm not disagreeing though. I noticed a good few errors with grammar and such. 999 and VLR also had it pretty bad
spoil me on the second game guys, i ain't ever gonna play it anyway
>>343421874
>Q has no image here
>Sean's image in the library is a matryoshka doll
fuck im retarded
>>343407481
Diana is cute! Cute! Phi is second best.
Also Carlos is based.
>>343419625
And she warms up to Seven by the end so hey
>>343412917
>That entire cutscene
I was so completely confused.Then it made sense.
>>343422545
Yes, she knew the answer. Do you think she didn't?
>>343419353
Only down there
>>343416670
sleep tight writer
>>343419825MURDERESCAPE
>>343422596
She was probably willing to die at that point since she knew that there wouldn't be a Rad-6 outbreak since Sigma and Diana died
>I'm a completely normal boy, my life is great and my parents love me very much!
Why?
>>343422804
If you want to go into theory territory, then I think she knew about the terrorist and simply helped Delta set up this whole thing.
>>343415946
Objectively great(he needs to have Diana give birth to him after all)
Subjectively elder god
>>343422365
All because of a single snail
>>343422654
I never thought of akane as hot until this game
>>343418198
Uchikoshi was asked about it at AX, and he said to look out for the Aksys panel on Sunday. Have hope.
>>343422651
this game will be shit if you don't play VLR
>>343412917
>>343422773
>Hot
>Fired up
Did this nigga really make fire puns because of his career as a firefighter?
>>343422773
Exceptit didn't matter because MIND HACK
>>343414274
TAKE THAT BACK
THE DOG IS WORTH SOMETHINGoh wait
>>343423014
her lip texture is subtly a higher resolution than almost everything else in the game
pretty hot
>>343422654
>>343423014
she was such a cold bitch in the previous games,seeing her going full yandere when junpei dies really took me by surprise!
>>343423014
>Akane has purple eyes
>Deltahas purple eyes
Is it a powerful esper thing?
>>343423046
well i'll have to take the master race option and play it on youtube then, eh
>>343422958
Isn't hinted at in the game, but who knows. It's just anotherBOOTSTRAP PARADOXanyway.
>>343416047
VIRGIN
>>343422365
If Akane's mom killed herself over her father getting executed she probably still would have killed herself over her dad dying from the accident that the taxi would get in.
>>343423075ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN
So Carlos went back to 10 months before the game started right? Doesn't that mean that he would be around somewhere in every possible ending? Because he showed up before any of the game's branches. Is there an extra Carlos running around somewhere trying to save Akane and Junpei in the coin flip ending?
>>343411535
Complex motives.
>>343423310
dying in an accident and getting executed as a murderer are quite different
>>343417126
Lack of Ben Bateman.
What gets me is that Akane stopped calling Junpei "Jumpy" even though she calls him "Junpei-kun" in the Japanese audio.
>>343423014
Who is the hottest her diana or clover or phi or mira?
>>343423342
COMPLETE
GLOBAL
SATURATION
New thread pls
>>343423425
Punctuation is the hottest:
>>343422596
>pic related
JUST SMILE
>>343423349it's possible he existed only in the timeline VLR happens so he could save them, or knowing how Zero is a fucking deus ex on everything he could easily dispose of the extra carlos so others timelines would happen, specially the one where sigma and diana gets stuck
>>343423685
>Eric, your face was kind of scary before.
Now it all makes sense.
>>343423465
>all those timers
>No "Seven minutes"-tier speech or something like that
You've got Wesker's VA and you didn't do this? Why, Aksys, why?
>>343423349
no, that's what akane wanted him to do. He went to the timeline where they pressed the button to acid shower the other teams. Akane and Junpei walk out of the door but Carlos stays behind. Carlos Shifted to that carlos and then waits 10 months to use the transporter to go to the VLR timeline.
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