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Zero Time Dilemma


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>10 months
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>they were nobody
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>>343318196
>b-but Nona
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>>343317897
>the brutal implication that Sigma and Diana had to kill their babies and themselves or starve everyone to death
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>>343318196
Just random twins. Not espers or anything. Why do you assume they would be interesting?
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Delta in the payoff ending thinks he's so smart, but there's another Delta in some other history who's in ultrasmug mode because he realized he can sit on his ass while Payoff Delta did all the work for him.
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>That biscuit? That was the last one...
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This is the 3rd game right? How do I play the other 2 games if this is the only PC release?
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>>343318429
Sigma and Diana SHIFTed back to the force quit box moment, anyway. Didn't matter.
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So why does Zero hate team C?
>Killed them in 215 universes
>Kills all of them in the timeline where monty halls fucks them up
>Kills everyone but Akane in the 9 timelines were they win the monty hall
>Everyone gets poisoned and have to solve a puzzle quickly or they die
>Executions and acid showers on top of that
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>>343318612
To help Carlos control his SHIFTing
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>>343318429
They completely missed an opportunity there though. Imagine if the dialogue was a little more like this:
>we have food for about 10 months
>you didn't forget about Gab, did you?
>Of course not, we eat him first
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>>343318561
Pirate the DS one.
YouTube the 3DS/Vita one.
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>>343318561
Apparently, they're hinting at a PC release for the past 2 games.
You could also emulate 999 at the very least.
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>>343318612
He hates forced romantic subplots.
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>>343318561
desmume and citra
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>>343318715
>Apparently, they're hinting at a PC release for the past 2 games.

Shit, seriously?
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>>343318725
Citra is playable? Holy, last time I saw it they could launch the menu system in OoT.
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>>343318612
Junpei is whiny and edgy, Akane is hypocritical moralfag and Carlos tries to get his way with Junpei and also a siscon
they deserved it lad.
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>>343317897
wtf is with the system requirements, isn't this a handheld game?
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Did they just have sex in the transporter?
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>>343318975
at 320x240 resolution
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>>343318797
Tweet they sent out mention steamship and that it was vital, so presumably steam and vita ports of the games that aren't on those platforms.
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Who loves gab here? and who else constantly blamed him for various murders for the heck of it
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>>343318458
Nah they are all espers. They all work at the same place Alice and clover work according to vlr
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>>343319054
I hope so. Hope its soon too.
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>>343319084
delete this
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>>343319035
Yes.
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The decision games like the execution vote and the acid button press would work better if the first time you played them the decisions of the other teams were picked from the steam save data of a random player
Voting aganist people that you control is just bland, and replaying the votes to rig them boring
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This game is going to tie up all plots and explain everything right? Or is it going to pull a danganronpa?
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>>343319196
Why are you asking?
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>>343319196
I'm sorry anon.
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>>343319035
no, the fucking babies just appeared 9 months later
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>>343319196
I'm gonna be terribly honest, the ZTD ending is fanfiction-tier.
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>>343319316
MEME FIELD
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Reminder
DECision game
X Door
10 months
10 people
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How do you logic out who Zero is?
I beat the game but when I got to the part where Sean is forced to reveal Zero, I only knew the answer because 4chan had spoiled me. Are you supposed to put the part were Zero talks about him and his sister being sent back in time together with the Sigma and Diana having twins timeline and realize that his name is Delta... or is there a more straightforward way?
Also I did the Force Quit Box in reverse chronological order D, Q, C. I really liked that, I might be kind of stupid but it took me 90% of the way through Q's force quit section before I understood why the box was suddenly open for them.
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>>343318721
Good to see I wasn't the only one who disliked all the AKANE!! JUMPAY!! romance in the C team fragments
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>>343319428
Such wasted twist, I'd take second trap Phi over what we actually got
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>>343319347
Fanfiction would utilize the universe the previous games had built more.
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>>343319181
you realise there wasn't anyone else in another room right? They were all in the same room at different intervals. If team-C voted to kill team Q and D got killed without being given a shot at the button themselves, same for team Q and D afterwards. If team C voted not ot kill they'd put them to sleep and put team Q in the room to vote, etc.
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>>343317897
How do I fucking unlock the Q fragment that lets me see zero's face. I've already unlocked most of the Force Quit boxes
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>>343319446
Zero tells you who he is during C Ending.
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>>343318975
they're bullshit requirements.
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>>343319196
it's another training arc, I'm so sorry anon
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>>343319347
>fan fiction tier
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>>343319035
I need doujins of Diana and Sigma having awkward alien pod sex now
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>check out quest files
>Dcom is owned by Free the soul
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>>343319446
On the C ending, Zero tells you who he is and you can figure out you're supposed to type Delta because of the anagram.
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>>343319623
yeah Brother/Zero/Delta owned the place, did you pay attention
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Hold the fucking phone

Delta was there the whole time but no one decided to bring it up? Was he with th teams in every timeline he wasn't killed or what?
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So Zero's butterfly badge ended up being nothing at all?
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>>343319446
C-END 1 basically tells you who Zero is without saying his proper name, if you've seen D-END 2 you can use both ends to put it together.
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Alright im stumped

100% - 35% + 570 =

Rook Bishop Queen doesn't work
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>>343319797
why didn't he make it a snail
or maybe it's supposed to be a shittily drawn bird
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>>343319537
Do you know Zero's real identity? Input that during the fragment with Diana, Sigma and Eric trying to shoot Sean.
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>>343319539
that's what i was thinking
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>>343319446
I mean how straightforward can they get, in that conversation with Amanda and jumped zero says he was born in the facility, that he was sent back in time though the transporter, that he has a sister and when akane guesses the anagram she says she couldn't find where to put some of the letters. Whichspell delta

If someone doesn't get it from that they weren't paying attention
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>>343319786
He was with them all for 5 days in the dcom experiment and after that all the time with team Q
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>>343319786
Fourth Q team member.
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>>343319849
It's not a queen.
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>>343319849
one of those numbers is wrong and lose the percentage sign
It's not queen
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>>343319961
There's still only 3 Sean robots aren't on a team
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>>343319849
how can you fail at the chess puzzle, come on
you have every piece explained in the files too
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>>343319849
It's Rook, Bishop, King.
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>>343320009
>>343320032
Oh shit im an idiot
Thanks anon
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>>343319786
they told them he was handicapped (deaf/blind/mute) and old as fuck, when you're in a room with a person like that you'd avoid them and pretend they weren't there as well.
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>>343319961
robots aren't people
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>>343320047
Oh, I mean from player perspective, since you're lead to believe Sean is Q the whole time.
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>>343319879
Because of the twins thing I know that he is Delta, but theres no fragment that has sigma diana and Eric shoot Sean. I've already done the entire Carlos Shifting segment.
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>>343319446
I guessed he was Delta right away when Diana named her son because I knew it was gonna be something silly like that
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>>343320098
Was there anything that suggested a man being there? I don't remember them ever calling the robot kid Sean or him ever saying his name was sean, and the room pans always made it looked empty.
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>>343320197
fucking this, that's the downside of "everyone is related"
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>>343320239
there was a mention of some guy in a wheelchair
someone mentioned Q couldn't hear or see
someone else said Q had a "Handicap"
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>>343320298
It's the kind of cliché Uchikoshi is so fond of.
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>>343319786
He was with Q team the entire time, as he IS Q. Sean was never referred to as anything but Sean. This knowledge makes replaying Q's section a lot more interesting.
It also explains why Q's portrait in the Status screen is never visible, even when playing as Q Team.

They ignore him for the most part, as they believe him to be Deaf/Blind/Crippled, and therefore it's basically pointless acknowledging his existence. He cannot respond, he cannot see what's unfolding in front of him and he cannot get up and interact.
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>>343319786
He was with Q-Team all along as well, check for shadows in Q-Team scenes, you'll be able to spot it in almost every fragment that Q isn't dead.

He was referenced in some way by almost every team as well.
For example, Eric asks the 'old man' what he thinks, with Mira responding that it's meaningless to do so since he wouldn't respond. The camera pans to Gab though to mislead you here.
When Q-Team is announced to have been executed, Junpei mentions how horrible it is that Q died saying 'he couldn't even see or hear when...'.
I think Sigma also mentions his disgust that Q was even brought to play this game too, but I can't remember exactly what he said.
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I sure loved how Phi did fuck all and went missing for half the game.
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>>343320239
>>343320349
Whenever someone mentions an old guy in the Q team they usually show Gab. They're not talking about Gab

Likewise, Gab wasn't the only one in chains in the Q team shower ending
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>>343319931
I forgot about the Anagram, because like I said I already knew the answer from the internet so that information kinda went into my mental trash pile. However later looking back on how someone was supposed to figure it out on their own I was confused. It all makes sense now.
Also don't worry, when I got to the the "Who's Zero?" question even though I knew the answer I didn't give it until I completed more stuff so I wouldn't spoil more stuff for myself.
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True mastermind of the series here. Don't click unless you want to be spoiled.
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So you're telling me Diana and Sigma fucked after only 1 month and a half in D-2 end, but never ever fucked for 3 years in the VLR timeline?
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>>343320647
Diana never got that desperate in the VLR timeline
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>>343318725
>citra
>to run it you have to buy the games, then you need to dump them, but in order to do so you must have a 3DS
So what's the point again?
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>Think the ending is gonna be shit since /v/ shits all over MUH DELTA MUH AYYLIENS MUH CLIFFHANGER
>Is actually pretty fucking good and the only bad things are maybe Zero's identity being a bit forced and it ending a bit too soon,

Game of the year for me. /v/ is always full of shit.
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Can someone tell me how I unlock the rest of these?
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>>343320239
there are quite a few hints . Iirc in the timeline where Q team blows up junpei mentions that Q couldn't see or hear what happened. Plus you can see his shadow in the Q team sections

Sean to!d them off screen, there was never a moment where Eric and Mira didn't know his name. Try never say his name because it would give the twistt away. I think they start calling him Sean in the cuts ends immediately after you reveal zero
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>>343320193
You need to have seen Q team's execution. Then, I think in the timeline where Carlos kills Akane, he sends Q team the hint to check behind the portrait. Then a new fragment in Q team shows up which is them investigating the door and getting the Twins' Birthday hint. Finally, with D team, you must solve the ayy lmao puzzle and transport to the other timeline, solve the showers puzzle and input the twins birthday as the password for the yellow door. That'll reunite Diana, Sigma, Sean, Eric and Carlos.
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>>343320526
she went the way of the Jew
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>>343320693
I'm sure she wanted to fuck him anyway, she was all over him in the trash disposal room
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>>343320710
Come back later
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>>343320526
She comes back and does a karate chop though
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>>343320710
Play the game.
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>>343320526
She did a lot in most of the D fragments. Thing is that in the D fragments where she survives everyone dies, and shit goes down in the timelines where she's dead.
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>>343320749
Did that already. I just don't have the continuation after the Get Back fragment
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>>343320349
Additionally, every time another team realizes Q team got executed they always say "They even did that to Q? How horrible." But whenever they see Sean they don't know who he is.
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>>343320818
>Top tier
>santa
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>343320647
VLR-sigma is a boy, ZTD sigma is a man. an old man in a young virile body.
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>>343320526
And they said Quark wouldn't be in this game. :^)
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>>343320526
Is this the scene where Phi thanks Sigma for staying with her til the end?
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>>343317897
how do you even get that ending? I think my game is bugged, even though I've voted and seen every team executed, one team execution in the global flowchart isn't lit up.
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>>343320846
other teams did not know about Sean
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>>343320818
She Cannon Strikes an old, crippled man who happens to be her blood brother.
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>>343320948
I was stuck on this as well
Is it the C-team? in that case you have to go to D team vote and Q team vote and vote C on both (even if you already did those), it won't work unless you do both of them with no other things in between
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>>343320710
Ambidex Game.
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I kind of feel bad, because after Phi and Delta were sent back, I put his name into the 3-way shootout and accidentally spoiled myself, making a lot of the ending have a lot less impact.
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https://mega.nz/#!95lSTJ5R!tmUL5emhwthMNpgmSntEnk4qr8xGI6o9l5guI7nnzRM

Soundtrack and art book from buying through Steam, for all you Vita/3DS players.
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>>343320892
I replayed the 999 and he was fucking genius in his acting
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>>343320949
That's what I mean, the player is lead to believe that Q is Sean for a while, but these people are expressing sympathy supposedly for a kid they don't know exists.
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>>343321105
you should've realised zero was delta straight after delta got name-dropped for the first time desu, unless this is your first visual novel
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>>343321174
>we could have had santa instead of carlos, junpei, akane or eric
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Blue Bird lametantion and Morphogenetic Sorrow play so often that they barely make me feel anything anymore.
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>>343321174
>and he was a terrible character
Fixed.
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>>343321169
could you upload artbook without OST please?
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Just started the game. How the fuck do I go through the story as neat as possible? It looks like a mess. There's no telling where I should go next.

Also, is there any tension at all when I directly control everyone's decision? I'm pretty bored so far because I know exactly what the other teams are going to do.
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>>343321278
I kept hoping zero would be either diana or akane
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>>343321174
>and he did fuck all until the last 20 minutes
ftfy
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>>343321360
That's the point

I guess start with pantry in C-team or something
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>>343321278
I did, but I hadn't figured out the 4th member stuff yet.
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>"Go ahead, shoot me. Don't worry. I won't die. Even if my body disappears, my consciou-"
>Eric shoots him
>he dies
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>>343321308
>Blue Bird lametantion
it felt OK in all the D-team fragments but in any other scene it was just too much
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>>343321174
All because of that single snail. The world is truly unfair.
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>>343321424
I liked his comment about Clover and the stairs.
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>>343321360
>I know exactly what the other teams are going to do.
Sounds like you are too dumb for this game. What the other teams choose is pretty irrelevant because you need to make every decision.
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>>343317897
>Tfw just got to this part in the game
This is funnier than it should be
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>>343321497
would have been great if he shot him before he could actually jump
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>>343321330
Got bamboozled
>>343321424
Not like the others did much either until the last part
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>yfw you find out Mira killed Eric's mother, and are respectively, the murderer and jogger in Zero's story
Life is simply unfair.
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So, are the stories that Zero tells (long time ago..) have anything to do with participants? Like, people who died are someone's parents or something?
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>>343321596
That probably happens alot. It is just not one timeline that we can see.
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>>343321661
Yes. It's practically a hidden subplot. Pay attention whenever it comes up.
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>>343321661
Yes
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>>343321169
>It's legit
I was kinda hoping for dolphin porn since I lost it two years ago.
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>>343321308
The one thing in the entire game that actually got me to squeeze out the starts of some tears was Sigma calling Diana Luna when his arms got blown off and he realised what was about to take place. All while Blue Bird Lamentation kicks in at just the right moment.
Nothing else got me in the same way, or even close.
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>>343321661
if you still can't figure it out after the end the epilogue notes recap them
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>>343321778
>>343321308
Sigma getting ready to lay Diana was the most touching moment in the game for me, I cried a little
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>>343321541
I'm just tired of seeing everyone freaking out saying shit like we need to kill them before us or what if it's a trick and I'm just here like calm down you little bitch I'll make sure you all live. At least in VLR I felt some tension because I had no control over what others do.
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>>343321659
it's those fucking snails
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D-Team best Team
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>>343321661
Mira killed Eric's mother, Akane's father was charged for the crime and executed, Akane's mother took her own life out of grief, the cab took a doctor who I think was going to operate on the original Sean. The cab crashed, the doctor and driver died, and Sean died from not receiving the surgery in time.
Fuck snails and fuck Mira.
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>>343321778
It was force quit box D for me. But i guess it was more of a happiness feels than sadness
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>>343319961
Why wasn't his picture up there with the rest them for that one puzzle in the study?
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> Reusing VLR's Pantry theme for ZTD's Study
Did the budget for the soundtrack run dry too?
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>>343321778
the way he returns to them was too fucking funny for me
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>>343321659
I never understood this part correctly
Doesn't Mira kill Akane's parents and Sean?
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>>343321895
DONT CLICK ON THIS PICTURE
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So this is the end of the Zero Escape Games... but is it the end of the universe? Are there going to be novels or an Action Adventure spinoff game or something else set in the universe? I want more story.

Also I want more gameplay, is he going to make a new puzzle game that isn't related to Zero Escape. I don't want this to be over.

Do the Never7 games have puzzles or is it just a gameplayless visual novel?
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Is the art book (there is one, right?) uploaded anywhere yet?
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>>343321045
no it's Q team (green), but I'll try doing that as well with the votes for both teams with nothing in between,

this game has the worst locks in the series imo. and the fragmented story doesn't help
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FUCK
THE D-END 2 KILLED ME
WHY DIDN'T AKANE HELP THEM
THAT DUMB WHORE
I'M TO SENSITIVE FOR THIS SHIT
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>>343322109
This is explained late game. Akane's parents are the accused murderer and his wife.
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>>343322109
Indirectly, yes.
But the real culprit was the true villain of the entire series.
Snaily the Snail.
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I guess I finished all the puzzle rooms? So anticlimactic to have the last room be the locker room
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STOP BLAMING AKANE YOU SHITFUCKS
SHE HAD A HARD LIFE
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>>343321553
what was funnier to me than it should be was when Sigma walks out without arms in the VLR ending
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>>343322246
At least you got to see Diana and Sigma make sweet love to eachother, and find true happiness as parents, even if only for a short while and they all starved to death afterwards
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>>343322123
DELETE THIS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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How many puzzle rooms are there in this game?
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>>343322259
>>343322109
How is Akane's Father accused of murder if Akane was japanese and Mira and Eric are from Nebraska which is in the middle of fucking US of A?
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>>343322353
t. Akane
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What's the twins birthday again? I already forgot it
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>>343322475
Like 3
I was wondering the same thing, I honestly think it is the least, but I am probably wrong.
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>>343321904
C- team fragments were better lad, the melodramatic romantic tension, Zero fucking the shit out of them with the Decision games, Carlos always talking about MARIAH and randomly being really gay to Junpei was the cherry on top for me.
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I still don't understand what he snail thing means
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>>343322568
11/16/2029, I think
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>>343321968
>fuck Mira.
Literally, I had a HARD time trying not to have my eyeballs gravitate to her enormous tits.
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>>343322568
November 16th, 2029
61404091
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>>343322142
The infinity series trade puzzles for story.
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>>343322641
Thanks, I wrote it down as 26 for some reason
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I dunno.
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>>343322246
Grief makes you think irrationally, I mean the love of her life was hacked to pieces and her blame for Carlos caused him to kill himself, and she realised it couldn't have been him.

She just wanted out at that point, I don't really blame her either.
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>>343322618
it means life is unfair anon
also parasites
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>>343322142
Never7 and Ever17 are just story with branching paths. There's no puzzles, but the stories are hella good for both. I heard Remember11 was a great story with forgettable characters, though.
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>>343322672
>>343322641
I better mark this date in my Calendar.

I hope I'm alive in that date to tell my children all about it.
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>>343322537
COMPLEX MOTIVES
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>>343322739
>Diana got to feel up his chest
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How come Eric was ready to shoot Sean even though he wasn't a registered player?
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>>343321778
for me it was diana hugging phi in the dcom room
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>>343322748
How does fucking nobody suspects there is not only a 4th person in their wards, but a whole fucking staff of people overseeing them. Someone has to be changing stuff up, setting up traps and moving them around in their sleep.

>>343322872
And his dick
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>>343322926
Because Eric is an irrational person. Why are questions like these asked so often?
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>>343322537
He had to go to the USA for some work related thing?
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>>343322926
because eric is dumb
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Where is Card 1 in the control room? It's the only quest file I'm missing, I somehow never found it.
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>>343322926
eric was both a dumbass and quick to lose control
dumbass in the worst way, not like carlos
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>>343322937
That got me too also it made me 110% sure diana was her mom
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>>343321778
For me it was the whole D2 ending. And the Force Quit Box as a follow up with Phi, Diana and Sigma embracing each other crying as Blue Bird Lamentation plays.

That song is really top tier.
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>>343322926
He was in the way.
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>>343322769
Never7 is shit. Not even when shit gets real with them realizing the power of the shrine it gets good.

Ever17 is only (incredible and amazingly) good for the last route, the rest is just chicken sandwitches.

Remember11 is great up until the ending, which is fucking trash (inb4 memers come saying that is supposed to be that way when the writters actually wanted to expand the story for the PSP version but didn't because they couldn't remember what they wanted to do with it).
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>>343323157
D-team truly was the best team and family
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I want to give her a creamphi.
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>>343323056
Why did they suspect a random chink to do that?

I was also expecting the "snail" to be a metaphor for something else. Not to be a literal snail.

Who the fuck interrupts their daily jogging routine for a small bug on the road?
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>>343322475
>>343322571
999: 16
VLR: 16 (with two solutions for the Gold and Silver files)
ZTD: 13
Seriously fuck this game.
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>>343322618
A snail literally got in the jogger's path and made her go the other way.

Small decision, big consequence.
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>>343323297
I guess he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

She had a snail phobia.
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>tfw Phi's fucking orange eyebrow is an actual plotpoint
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>>343322926
Eric isn't the picture of mental health, Anon.
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>>343323297
snails are gross anon
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>>343323297
Maybe it wasn't a a literal snail
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Stuck at Study. I have C and D parts and handgun and tried to open birdman box but the password won't open.
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>>343322618
Zero can read minds, so he knew that the reason that she didn't use the left path that day was because she was disgusted with the snail, which ended in her death,
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>>343323509
snails are CUTE
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I hate Eric so much. Most of us would be him in this situation. "Yeah, 'the morphogenetic field', I don't know who you fuckers are or how you know I know about the Zero Escape games, but fucking let me out right now!"
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Ok why the fuck is Eric allowed to handle the Shotgun?
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dead-Sean was Left
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10631889
http://www.strawpoll.me/10631889
http://www.strawpoll.me/10631889

Carlos needs you all to vote.
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>>343322259
>>343322537
I thought Akane and Aoi were orphans?
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>>343323542
I'd run away from that shit too. Worst girl
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>>343323556
>disgusted
she was afraid of harming the snail
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>>343323546
Did you get the note about the poses?
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>>343322937
>>343323157

> Tfw I never ever felt anything whenever Phi was involved.
Didn't like her much in VLR and I don't like her much now. I think I preferred her in VLR because the Sigma/Phi bants were top notch at least. In this game there were maybe 2 decent back and forths?
In my opinion it was blindingly obvious months before pre-release that she was Diana's daughter, I remember the theories shooting around the second we saw her awkward red eyebrows.
One of only two things I thought were too obvious,the other being Mira as the heart stealing mass murderer.
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>>343323613
>snails are CUTE
>>343322603
>>343322123
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>>343323546
You need to shift each number of the password according to the statues in the desk. There should be a few documents telling you what each doll stance represents.
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>>343323168
>Never7 is shit
I liked the part where they reveal that the point of the experiment was to make the protagonist think he had a power of precognition
other than that it was a mediocre VN
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>>343323718
Only the confirm and deny poses.
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"Not much phases me. I'm just not that type."

This triggers my inner grammar nazi
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>>343323674
>no funyarinpa
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>>343323823
Did you open the glass case?
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>>343323680
That's how they got orphaned.

>>343323823
Go upstairs.
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>>343323542
worst snail. cant even do its job properly without cosmic powers going apeshit on her
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>>343323680
The father got the chair because 'Murrica and the mom kills herself because of it.

>>343323728
It kind of depends on who you are. Some people feel very personally the "Sean lives happily ever after" ending, probably because they had shitty childhoods.

Some people like me are deeply moved by the D team shenanigans because we, or at least I am, a very family-focused kind of guy.
It's also not about the twist itself, but the execution of it all.
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>>343320846
>>343320949

I just realized that too.
Maybe it wasn't an asspull then, but then you consider that the whole team Q could be MINDHACKED any time.
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>>343323680
you become an orphan by having your parents die or abandon you, there's still someone who needs to give birth to you
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>>343323314
>Seriously fuck this game.
Life is simply unfair...isn't it.
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>>343323670
Different age and cause of death.

Deeper insight into FTS is probably the biggest dropped ball in ZTD. I still like it, but it's kind of a shame.
Nothing that I can't get a satisfying answer from a Q&A though.
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>>343323823
NIL
EXIST

Come on, one safe has 3 letters, the other safe has 5 letters. It was painfully obious. Here's a hint for you:
Birdman = MIND
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>>343323917
No flower key or whatever that is.
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Am I the only one that really wanted to see that FTS meeting that Akane and Junpei were invited to?
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>>343324059
>brat bullshit on the rise again
I am not sure if I hate or love the dank new memes of VLR.

I love how Uchi himself acknowledged 12 inches, and improved on it.
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>>343323651
Because the other options are a kid who can barely hold it and Mira.
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>>343324271
Did you try shooting it open?
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>>343322978
it was the sean clones nigga
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>>343324007
just wait for the Q&A and the powers of Zero that werent mentioned in the game.

>>343324059
joke's on you Uchi, I did not pay for it
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>>343324291
I'm a huge fan of that damn brats bullshit.
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>>343324271
if you have the gun and the crossbow, examine the portrait with the dolls.
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>>343323639
>eric in one timeline: "I'm sorry I lashed out at you before Sean, my dad has abused me and murdered my brother in my childhood and I have anger issues because of it. I hope I didn't hurt you."

>eric in almost every other timeline: "I'll murder each and every one of you until one of you confesses to killing mira even if there's proof none of you did it"

I seriously hope this guy got a therapist at someone's suggestion at the end.
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>>343324278
Fourth Zero Escape game, with special guests Akane and Junpei for the fourth time ;)
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That sucked

Who gives a fuck if groups weren't awake at the same time. It's not like it changes our perspective on anything that happened previously. Same with the layout of the the facility. Who cares.

Oh no there's a serial killer on loose! What does it matter anymore since we know about shifting already. If anything dying is a good thing since you learn something new. It takes all the tension away from the game. You only learn about that shit at the end of VLR.

Another masked man mystery, throwing in the robot twist (again) doesn't make it any more exciting.

Akane going completely insane when Junpei is killed even though she doesn't give a fuck about him in VLR.

Awful animations

Ayy lmao and mind hacks because why not

free the soul + brother/left stuff completely brushed aside

complex motives

Man that was underwhelming. Worst zero escape by far. I disliked it.
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>>343324352
Yes, they even told me it won't work.
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Man, not really digging the extreme fragmentation of the story.

There is no lead-up to anything, no build-up to any deaths. It's what made the death scene of Luna in VLR for example so great, and brought me to tears. But when Sigma dies in Diana's arms I just didn't feel anything because it was so sudden. And in the next scene everyone is alive again anyway.

It all just feels a bit off.
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>>343320818
In D-End-3 I really thought Phi and Aoi were twins and Aoi was Delta, since I don't remember Akane saying in 999 or VLR that Aoi and her were blood related.
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>>343324074
>Nothing that I can't get a satisfying answer from a Q&A though
Yeah, we're guaranteed to get answers, of course!
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>>343324461
Every protagonist and the female companion has been returning onevery game

Junpei and Akane. Sigma and Phi, for the hypothetical 4th game, it'd be Junpei, Akane, Sigma, Phi, Carlos and maybe Diana.
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What if there's more to the game we haven't discovered yet?
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>>343324623
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>>343324386
Shot C-team with the gun, don't know what to do there.
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>everything in the lounge is fake
I call bullshit Uchikoshi
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>>343324523
> It's not like it changes our perspective on anything that happened previously.
It does. It reveals the fact that Junpei and Mira could've been killed by someone else and that technically everyone has access to everything.

>>343324824
Do you have the hint for that? You get it from the acrophobic chair.
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>>343324789
I really hope it isn't extended to a fourth game. I've lost any interest in whatever he produces.
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>>343322003
Because that would have given it away immediately
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>when Sigma dies in Diana's arms and Phi says "This may be affecting me more than you"

I was fucking laughing my ass off holy shit
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>>343324958
>alien playing cards can block needles
Really?
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>>343325025
Can't power on.
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>>343324523
remember al those crazy theories about the myrmidons and horus's something or another? yeah, fuck all of that
instead let's discuss the shadows in the Q team scenes
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So was there anyone here actually surprised when Phi was revealed to be Sigma and Diana's daughter?
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>>343325207
I honestly can't notice any shadow. Do you have some screenshots?
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>>343325301
Not at all
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>>343325201
Get the safes man. They're the easiest thing. >>343324107
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>>343325025
true but the twist could just as easily have been tunnels or something which would not have been surprising at all

>>343325207
that was the only moderetly interesting thing that happened all game
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>>343325301
Me.
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>>343325301
No, but that's 'cause I am a faggot and I already had most the game spoiled from spending too much time in these threads.
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>>343325316
Maybe the shadows only show up after the reveal?
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>>343317897
Her exhusbandjust asked her for money and sex
Definition of a scum
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>>343325301
people had been saying that since uchikoshi told people they would never be a couple. The moment we saw her redesign it was basically a done deal
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>>343325316
no idea, I was playing on a regular 3DS so it's a miracle that I was able to even solve the puzzles.
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>>343325207
VLR fucked up by introducing too much whacky shit and promising it would follow up on it when it realistically couldn't. As did Uchikoshi in the Q&A for that game.
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>>343325301
I was more surprised by the fact that there was only one lounge.
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>>343324623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5HkuhSEnPQ
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>>343324107
FFFF I thought that was just an example.
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>>343317897
Is the trilogy worth playing? Or does it have tons of unfinished plot arcs and dumb nip with writing that'll just waste my time
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>>343325301
>15 minutes into group D fragments phi starts talking about how she dyed her red hair because it embarrassed her

>next fragment they hug and she remarks on how familiar this feels or some shit


Not at all. They couldn't have made it any more obvious.
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I know the characters don't have the flowchart screen so I have no problem with them being surprised... but was anyone surprised that there was a two hour delay between each teams' watches? I realized that was going down as soon as I looked at the First Come, First Saved, the far left, flowchart
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>>343325621
DELETE THIS
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>>343325575
Only play 999. VLR ruined everything.
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>>343318516
Stop it anon
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>>343325575
the plots are only unfinished if you finish the third game
You just have to stop playing when Steve Jobs is shown on screen for the first time
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>>343320710
wew lad.
You have to the puzzle room with the reactor, beat that, and then make your decision.
Then you have to go back and pick the other decision, which leads you to a 3rd path that explains why both of those reasons were stupid.

Which in turn leads you to unlocking those 3 scenes.
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Oh my god the flowchart changed
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>>343325715
This was probably the funniest part of the game.
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Just finished up with 999, starting on Virtue right now. Shame I won't be able to speed this one up for multiple playthroughs, anyone know the average time it takes to get every ending in Virtue?
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So who do you guys consider to be the most main character of the leaders?

Carlos, Sean, or Diana?
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There is a person who uploaded some of the endings if you want to check them again.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCepjupXEZaAsPlgJQUGXNFQ/videos
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>>343326040
40 hours
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>>343326040
I needed 31 hours.
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>>343326040
~30 hours
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>>343326040
almost 20+ hours
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>>343325715
So its safe to say that Carlos will probably get the most memes from VLR?
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>>343325207
Remember how all the theories turned out better than what we got in-game?
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>>343324545
I agree, VLR did the flowchart much better.
ZTD just throwing the whole thing at you right off the bat ruined a lot of the mystery, even if it was up to you to fill it in.
You always knew how many options everything was leading up to, and 9 times out of 10, you knew if a path would/could end in death before you'd even done it, as it'd split to a single solitary fragment that just ends.

I liked ZTD, and believe a lot of the criticisms here are just complaints for the sake of complaining, but it could have been better.
Could have been a lot worse though.
I feel like they're trying to leave things open to player interpretation, but in a slightly poorly handled way.

>>343325508
This is kind of true. In a way, I blame VLR more than I blame ZTD. ZTD was funded by hopes and dreams. I remember being somewhat put off by how quickly VLR got stuck in to the MORPHOGENETIC FIELD side of things, whereas 999 had been fairly grounded until a few late game bits.
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>>343325621
No ultimate end where you, Blick Winkel, travesl back throgh time and kills the snail, thus preventing anything from happening, but also making everyone live worse lifes because they don't meet each other
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>>343326087
>3DS version
why bother?
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>>343326205
>lifes
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>>343326089
>>343326090
>>343326101
>>343326126
Damn, thats gonna be tough. I was able to get through 999 since I could emulate it, but any games on my DS I really have to force myself to play.
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>>343326205
Mira does travel back in time to kill the snake tho
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>>343326205
Did you read the post-game files? Because Sean and Mira make that happen
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>>343326175
yeah, what unsolved mysteries or hidden messages are left to discuss?
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>>343326334
NOT SNAKE JESUS
I MEANT SNAIL
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>>343326070
It's a split between Carlos and Diana.
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>>343326040
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=11556
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>>343326349
Post your face when shitposters will consistently defend Uchi's behavior and act is if promised reveals outright did not exist, expecting us to accept this game as some magical conclusion that ties up everything.
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>>343326070
Q
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>>343326205
>we could have a Coco route from Ever17 but no, Uchi will count on the fanbase to beg for another game
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The epilogue file for Q team is so shit
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>>343325890
>we'll use our bodies to shield you from the bullets, and we'll die
>THE FUCK?

he had some great moments
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>>343326070
Carlos. He was a lot more active in doing things himself and trying to fix things even if he was an idiot that sat around for 10 months. Sean just got bullied/shot by Eric a lot. Diana just panicked and really Sigma did most of the work for D-Team.
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>>343326070
But Sean isn't a leader.
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>>343326334
Poor Snake, I bet he didn't even see it coming.
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> Oh no guys if we shift we'll kill our other selves even though we've being doing it all game with no reservations
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>>343326483
Post your face when shitposters will constantly hate on Uchikoshi by pretending that actual answers outright did not exist, expecting us to just ignore 90% of the small details in ZTD and ignore the actual answers and conclusions they did get.
I'm not saying that everything was answered, but y'all acting like they never talked about anything from 999...
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>>343326739
yeah i don't know what the fuck was up with that
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>>343326739
Been*
Fuck me
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>>343326739
>>343326819
2complex4u
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>>343326070
Carlos, he made the coin flip decision and he's the one given the gun to decide what to do with Zero.
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Where's that one guy who would always push for Phi/Sigma? I want to see his tears
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Never forget.

Why is Akane such a sadist? She places bombs in the 9th Man and Nagisa Nijisaki.

Nagisa Nijisaki is one of the people who killed her in an alternate history... She's the sort of woman who'll do whatever it takes to achieve her goals. Even though she seems like a nice girl, she's always plotting rather cold things. She'd easily kill someone if she needed to. Her personality is a result of what happened to her 9 years before... Perhaps there were things that happened on that ship that couldn't be shown in the actual game.

Fuck Akane.
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>>343325806
thank you
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One of the X-Passes is virgin.
Whose X-pass was it?
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>>343327019
Akane is so moe!
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What do you get for collecting all the files?
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>>343327124
Mira
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>>343327124
Mira
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>>343327124
mira
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>>343327019
She had to. She had to do everything she saw through Junpei's eyes or else she would die/not exist in the first place.
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>>343327124
Mira
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>>343326739
>and I myself have fucked with the reactor just to have enough danger to shift
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>>343327124
Mira
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>>343327019
JUMPY HOW COULD YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN SURVIVAL
YOU HAVE CHANGED
HOW
COULD
YOU
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>>343327136
Trophy/Achievement.
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>>343326513
As someone who has been defending the game a lot, I can't help but agree with that.
It's like something out of fanfiction. Bad fanfiction.
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>>343327136
The joy of 100% a good game
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What are the choices you have to replay due to randomized choice? The only one I know of so far is the Trash Room.
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>>343327168
>>343327173
>>343327174
>>343327183
>>343327196
Fuck that pathetic virgin
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>>343326739
MY MOTIVES ARE COMPLEX!

Also, Delta did use his mind hack bullshit to realize just what they did and how it was exactly what he wanted them to do all along, because it still sets up Free the Soul and the terrorist either way.
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>>343327285
dice roll
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>>343327285
dice, incinerator, lockers
maybe something else I forgot
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>>343327285
Monty Hall.
I did the swapped -> wanted to get the bad ending -> didnt swap -> good ending again.
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>>343327125
this
>tfw no mastermind gf
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>>343327124
Diana
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>>343327285
Trash/Gun, dice rolling, mask in the lockers, coin flip.
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>>343327237
That's it? No bonus content?
>>
Why do Akane, Junpei, Phi and Sigma so often act as if they don't know anything? They should all know about the virus, saving humanity, and why they're all there to begin with, right? All the deaths, and sometimes dying themselves shouldn't really faze them as much as it does, or am I seeing that wrong?
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>>343327265
>good
correct, not great, not amazing, just good
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>>343327486
Nope.
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>>343327506
Junpei doesn't know
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>>343327463
Coin flip isn't random
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>>343327324
she never got to do the vertical tango
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>>343327506
They probably did know.
But they couldn't say anything for 2 reasons

It would jeopardize their mission in coming back from VLR
And even when they tried explaining it, Eric almost blew their fucking heads off with the shotgun. You could even say there's no point because they shited to that time-line, saw what happened, and didn't even bother.
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What is his problem
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>>343327650
Ah, assumed it was because another anon claimed having to do it three time because the result changed.
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so how was sigma unable to fend off mira in that one ending? is all that muscle just for show?
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>>343327486
that would cost money to make
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>>343327842
That was me and it was the gun
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>>343327759
>because they shited
Thanks, F key.
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>>343327735
Horizontal bruh
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So did nothing happen with the ? guy who was in Kyle's body at the end of VLR?
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>>343327589
Exactly
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>>343327867
She had the chainsaw and he had the axe.
Or it was done while they were sleeping.
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>>343327953
oh yea wasn't kyle supposed to be there too
where was he?
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>>343327953
from now on, the answer is the dog
but why would he do that?
>>
Akane can solve anagrams, but can't unscramble LDEAT?
>>
I'm glad I didn't have the same amount of hype for this I had for VLR, yet I still managed to feel let down.
>>
I wish there had been a final puzzle room with everyone or something. Thr puzzles are so front loaded in this game that by halfway you've done all of them
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>>343327867
Retard strength. Also he was just trying to hold her down, she was still armed though and could've gotten a good jab into him to get him to release her.

>>343327953
Nobody knows. Could be Carlos given showed that he's ridiculously powerful at shifting and the reason he may not be around for VLR in his body is because he became sick from Rad6 or something.
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>>343327953
Coming up next: Final Puzzle DLC
Only on Steamâ„¢
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>>343328132
she also had complex motives, as always
>>
>tfw Sigma, Diana, baby Phi, baby Delta, and Gab all starved to death
>tfw there was a pantry stocked with food and could have lived, or use the bomb in the work room to blow up the door in the contamination room if only they knew they had access to the entire shelter the whole time.
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>>343328297
You know what? I wouldn't even be mad if there was DLC for this game.
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>>343327953
Blick Winkel is the player is the morphogenic field. Underwhelming.
Kyle is a dropped concept :-)
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>>343328509
Wasn't the bomb disarmed on that timeline?
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>>343328568
Yup. But they didnt need to starve, the healing room had just what they needed to avoid that.
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>>343328545
Kyle is Gab
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>BUT KILLING PEOPLE IS WROONG!!!

>oh by the way, heard about that time I put bombs inside people and watched them go off?
>or that other time I held a death game where everyone killed each other? BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WAS ON OTHER TIMELINES :)
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>>343328509
>>343328568
>Wasn't the bomb disarmed on that timeline?
Yep. Diana says "I really love balls so I remember where they are and there definitely were balls in this thing before."
and Sigma is all "maybe you remembered wrong"
>>
>>343328640
In your headcanon, yes.
>>
>>343328613
Oh, that pantry.
>>
the steam *team leaders* card is misleading, since it shows sean instead of Q
>>
>The part where the discuss Back To the Future and don't say Marty's name
Nothing can throw off my suspension of disbelief faster than "craftily" avoiding lawsuits.
They also mention The Matrix and call Neo "The One".
>>
>>343328509
10 months and they never thought about slamming something against a wall?
>>
>>343328665
COMPLEX
>>
>>343328665
The point was that Junpei, as one of the two person's she really cares about, should not become like her. She wanted him to stay the way he was, because she liked him that way.
She changed him and she knows it. The moral speeches are just an attempt to undo the change SHE initiated.
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HELP ME
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>>343328819
I thought it was cute.
Especially bringing up Marty and Back to the Future in Junpei's presence.
>>
>>343328857
D-end 2
>>
>>343328857
Did you see the scene where Diana and Sigma have sex yet, anon?
>>
Why did the Carlos ending have to be the VLR ending?
>>
>>343328857
Play the game
or
Brooch and Music Box
>>
>>343328857
Do you really have the needed endings? DO YOU?
if yes
Brooch & Music Box
Do not listen to blue bird fags
>>
>>343328857
I got this way earlier than the other two force quit passwords since this one is really easy to guess
>>
>>343328510
even if it was the true end dlc?
>>
>>343328857

watch me fuck up spoiler tags because I suck


BROOCH and MUSIC BOX
>>
>>343328665
>HOW COULD YOU EVEN SUGGEST KILLING THE OTHER TEAM, JUNPEI?!
>And then she fucking confirms she starts up the AB game in one of the endings
>>
>>343328568
what about the blue button?
>>
>>343328857
Have you done the howisbabbyformed Ending?
>>
>>343329159
Too powerful, blows up everything
>>
>>343329039
uchikoshi should do it just to drive home that life is simply unfair
>>
>>343329207
Avoids starving.
>>
>>343328817
It's not steam's fault
>>
So at the end of the day Delta was the only character innocent of murder going by the game's logic, right?
>>
I have to say despite the story being less than ideal I enjoyed the puzzles for the most part. Only slightly worse than VLR's puzzles
>>
>>343329253
>not noticing Q's shadow
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How did you react?
>>
>Nobody calls Mira out on being a serial killer almost purely responsible for starting the entire chain of events
>But Delta who did nothing wrong is the worst guy they've ever met
>>
>>343329338
>What the fuck is this ninja shit
>>
>>343329338
PENALTY
>>
>>343329338
before or after he went full naruto?
>>
>>343329338
I was just confused to be honest. I still thought that he was just a clone.
>>
>>343329338
Literally the one of the two moments I went "WHAT THE FUCK?!"

The other was when Carlos 'raped' Akane
>>
>>343329338
it all went down the drain when he started with DBZ shit
>>
>>343329338
Unsurprised. I'd already seen robot Sean.
>>
>>343329295
since he can't shift, yup
>>
>>343329338
i knew something was funny when he started tossing eric around and never bled
>>
>>343329338
"Why is he dark? The red eyes make sense but no one else in the room has turned into a shadowy form. Seriously what?" That was my reaction.
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im fucking stumped
i swear i've gone through almost possible combination
>>
>>343329338
this is when I realised he had to be a robot
>>
I hope Carlos blew Delta's brains out at the end
>>
>>343329295
Who cares he's murdering SHIFTERs. You can't apply conventional morals to them.
>>
>>343329509
I realized he had superhuman strength early on when he was shown lifting the FQB even though Sigma couldn't
>>
>>343320696
But that's how EVERY emulator works anon
>>
I just watched the scene where Carlos sends the message to Q team about the painting but it didn't unlock anything new and I'm stuck. Did I miss something I should know? I have the code I got in one of Q's endings that I haven't used but it doesn't work anywhere I can enter a code.
>>
>>343329572
Start with the blue laser.
>>
>>343329663
have you let time run out when asked who killed mira?
>>
>>343329371
eric is fucking whipped as shit for still going after her
>>
fug
>>
>>343329572
Solve Yellow first, it is the hardest one in my opinion. I tried doing it last and I was trying for like ten minutes, I hit restart and did it first and everything fell into place after.
>>
>>343329572
Hit reset, start with Yellow, work from there.
>>
>>343329663
All execution?
if yes:
Let the timer run out on the question who killed mira
>>
What's the code for the locker room after you solve the room?
>>
>>343329663
check the global chart for exclamation marks to click.
>>
>>343320476
Yeah, but isn't that automatically suspicious?
>>
>>343329338
I got the fragment where Zero Shows Sean the computer room and tells him his helmet code so I wasn't too surprised.

I was more shocked at the part where
Carlos, Akane, and Junpei shift in and out of timelines in order to get x-passes, and then the last two didn't fucking work
>>
>>343329572
You tried all 11250 possibilities?
>>
>>343329572
If you think about where Yellow and Red MUST come from to reach the center, it's quite easy.
>>
>>343329572
Try the yellow one to fit, then the blue one. The other two should come easily after that. That is how I did it anyway. Don't remember the exact arrangement.
>>
How do i do this creature case puzzle as q team in the bio lab? are the ice blocks ment to come outside the case/cover the X's?
>>
>>343329851
How did you possibly not notice that there were multiple different X-passes per character?
>>
>>343329796
You find out later.
>>
I wish we had seen more character interactions in Dcom before all this shit went down. We get that one scene with Diana and Phi and that's pretty much it
>>
>>343329752
Giving up on someone just because they have a mental illness. She never used violence of any kind against Eric in this timeline and she agreed to turn herself in where she would get proper mental health treatment.
My GF has her own mental health issues so I really empathize with this.
>>
>>343330006
Read the book
>>
>>343330006
>Everyone playing pranks on Q/Delta because they think he can't do shit about it.
>>
>>343330076
>My GF has her own mental health issues so I really empathize with this.
I bet your gf didn't kill your mom.
>>
>zero made a puzzle where the solution is to blow up the glass with a fucking grenade launcher
>a fucking GRENADE LAUNCHER
>>
>>343329963
Look at the pills.
>>
>>343330006
this desu
>>343330101
it's like 2 pages
>>
>>343329963
>>343329963
pls help
>>
>>343330179
Not him, but what were the pills supposed to tell me?
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>>343329796
Even if I told you, you wouldn't be able to access the other fragments.
>>343329968
I did notice.
I even tried doing x-passes from other time-lines for opposite teams.

I was shocked that zero caught on to their time travel shenanigans MIND HACK and cock-blocked them from escaping that way
>>
>>343330247
The order that the specimen jars go in. The pills are shaped like numbers
>>
>>343330247
wait a minute, those pills look like numbers
>>
>>343330169
did they roll up the wheelchair for this or did they just leave Q down there?
>>
>>343330278
>Even if I told you, you wouldn't be able to access the other fragments.
why is that?
>>
>>343329963
>>343330179
Sorry, misunderstood what you meant by "creature case". Only thing that should cover Xs are the Xs from the puzzle blocks. Nothing should overlap.

If you need a hint on how to arrange them besides that:
Start with the largest/most awkward block first, it'll usually only fit 1 or 2 ways, then move onto the next largest/awkward block.
>>
>>343330190
No, the ice blocks don't go outside the case or overlap either.
>>
>>343329851
>I was more shocked at the part where
I loved the lines the computer speaker lady said, although I don't remember them exactly something like X-Passes are locked to the timeline they originate from
>>
>>343330359
>>343330362
FUCK, thanks.

>>343330393
Beyond that door lies a scene that is the center of different events you must see first.
>>
>>343330368
FUCK
plotholes man
>>
Why were his eyes purple?
>>
>>343330539
Mindhacking
>>
Who cares about some senile old fart?

>>343330539
M I N D H A C K
>>
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>>343330368
Son of a bitch I never noticed that.
>>343330359
>mfw I never noticed this either, got frustrated and just swapped the fucking jars until I got lucky
>>
>>343330539
he saw some shit
>>
>>343330539
he killed madara uchiha
>>
>>343330539
he's a targaryen
>>
>>343330539
because he was copied hundreds of times in the alien machine
>>
>>343330539
oculus rift usage
>>
>Grenade Launcher
I was really hoping one of the stand off endings was Eric firing it and the explosion killing all 4 of them
>>
I'm gonna play VLR again.
> Tfw going from Vita ZTD to 3DS VLR.
> English voices to forced JP voices.
What's the room that breaks the game if you save in it? Chances are I won't be turning off the game anways, I think I had my Vita on for the entirety of my ZTD playthrough, but it's just to be safe.
>>
>>343330663
which one?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ54_GZd8_Q

best song coming through
>>
>>343330862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLTEIEEV-is

one of my favorites
lets you know you're in for some shit why'd you fuck up the coin toss
>>
>>343323297
Murrican police aren't well known for their competence.
>>
>>343330748
Same.
Couldn't help but think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhEH6MvNWIw
>>
Can someone please explain to me the math behind the injection of Radical-6?
>>
Because I have autism I don't want to boot the game again.
I played on the 3DS and it keeps track of how long you play for and how many times you booted software, my average play time for ZTD is 7 hours and if I boot it for just a minute it will drastically reduce that number.

Is there anywhere I can easily re-watch scenes online? Like a specific Youtube channel.
>>
>>343331003
?
>>
>>343331003
75% chance of death is lower than 100% chance of death.
>>
In the ending where Q-team tries to all kill each other, aside from Mira, Eric, and Delta, what's the last option you can pick?
>>
>>343330627
>>343330473
imagine him just sitting there and thinking "i didnt think this throug when designing this puzzle"
>>
>>343330978
same here, shame that japs dont play good pc games
>>
>>343331342
"nobody"
>>
>>343331342
Nobody
>>
>>343331342
Try using "NOBODY"
>>
Is there any significance to the numbers in the Q team related passwords?
>>
>>343331342
I had trouble with that too. No One or Nobody
>>
>>343331292
Doesn't matter anyway cause both endings are shit
>>
>>343331003
If you don't inject R6 there is a 50/50 chance of being infected with the other one, which will kill you 100% of the times. So it's 0 or 100 chance of living.
If you do inject your ass with that, if you WEREN'T infected, then there's a 25% you'll live. If you WERE infected, there's a 100% chance you'll live, because the two cancel each other.
>>
>>343331003
If you have the other disease and inject you live for sure 100% survival rate
If you have the other disease and don't inject you die for sure 0% survival rate

If you don't have the other disease and do inject you will maybe live 25% survival rate
If you don't have the other disease and don't inject you will for sure live 0% survival rate

It's like Pascals wager except not dumb
>>
>>343330775
Pressure room I think. Should replay it since my save data got deleted on my vita.
>>
>>343331417
61404091
>>
>>343330775
PEC
>>
Anybody have a picture of diana being drunk and angry, i need it
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They laid this on pretty thick
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>>343331070
there will probably lots of lets plays on youtube, good luck finding one with no annoying commentary
>>
>>343331514
I know what the numbers are, I meant if they had any significance
>>
>yfw in another history ZTD is flawless
>>
>>343331514
Reading comprehension, anon.
>>
>>343331609
brb gonna put myself in danger to find out
>>
>>343331609
WHAT DOES THE BUTTERFLY MEAN
>>
>>343331417
No, not really.
>>343331348
Yeah, especially that pod room puzzle, and where he placed the exit key specifically.
>>
>>343331609
Which character is this? really digging that plague doc mask and hat.
>>
>>343331732
Nothing.
>>
>>343331609
I'm gonna go play in traffic to shift to that timeline.
>>
>>343331609
>$40 coin flipping simulator
Thats the world I want to live in.
>>
>>343331609
Life is simply unfair
>>
>>343331717
Do it anon!

You won't REALLY die :^)
>>
>>343331732
he has a sense of style :^)
>>
>>343331582
Wasn't it already heavily implied in VLR? I don't remember much of it, but for some reason even from the beginning of the game I was just really sure Diana and Sigma were going to be Phi's parents even though I wasn't spoiled or anything
>>
>>343331732
He's constantly mentioning the butterfly effect except he uses a snail as an example instead
>>
>>343331795
>>343331823

FUCK YOUUUUU
>>
>>343329338
my dick became so hard
>>
>>343331609
Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Uchikoshi reprehendere
>>
>>343331732
Butterfly Effect.
>>
>>343331732
It's complex
you wouldn't understand ,':^)
>>
>>343331846
Well, we all know that snails turn into butterflies eventually.
>>
>>343331003
do you believe a man who claims to have clairvoyance that he injected you with a disease no one has ever heard of before and do you inject yourself with a disease that has a 75% mortality rate or do you say "only a retard would inject themselves with radical-6 or believe this man has clairvoyance and this made-up disease" and walk away.
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>>343331609
>yfw in another history
ZTD doesn't fucking matter because he just looked at all the other histories when everyone shifted back in the true ending which is what he needed all along
>>
Seriously, guys, what if there's more to the game?
>>
I cleared all the dots, hoping for a secret end to pop out. But nope.

Is payoff 2 the true end? That's it? Did I miss something?
>>
>>343331846
>>343331917
Why does the wear the Plague Doctor mask?
>>
>>343331837
I don't remember any specifics, but people were fairly certain Sigma and Diana were Phi's parents, yeah. Phi's orange-ass eyebrows are probably the biggest clue in VLR.

I really wanted this plot point to come up and for Phi to say something like "uh are you retarded, I grew up with my parents in Brooklyn, what the fuck is wrong with you"
>>
>>343332054
He's an old guy
>>
>>343331003
What really bothered me about it: Alright so we may be infected with this HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS virus, also the antidote is another HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS VIRUS.
3-vials.
Did nobody worry about the old guy catching it, too? I get that Q wasn't pricked with the needle, and the virus probably had not gone airborne yet. But, it should be worth a mention.
Like, didn't they worry about spreading Radical-6 to him if they injected, or if it maybe was implied that 1 of the 4 had to die.
>>
>>343331837
4 years of speculation will do that. The scene wasn't dimished but it was a pretty popular theory on /v/ especially when Phi's red eyebrows were shown
>>
>>343331732
LET ME TELL YOU AN OLD STORY
SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO A WOMAN WAS MURDERED
DUE TO HER DEATH, A FRIENDLY LEPIDOPTERIST AS MURDERED
THIS PREVENTED THE MURDER OF A LITTLE BUTTERFLY
LIFE IS SIMPLY UNFAIR DON'T YOU THINK?
>>
>>343332028
That's it
You're done
Nothing more to see
except to read the epilogue files
>>
>>343332054
he played a lot of bloodborne just before he was making the costume
>>
I'm completely fucking stumped. I got no where to go, can I get some assistance?
C-Team: Done most of the fragments, and went on Carlos Wacky Fun Shifting Adventure: Hostile Body-Blocking Ninja Edition. However, after jumping into the Kill Akane timeline, Carlos wandered off, and I didn't get anything else. I can't progress because I have no idea who killed Mira, and I don't know what the Force Quit Password is.
Q-Team: I've seen the Crossbow ending and I know he's a robot (and his helmet code), but i have no idea who killed Mira.
D-Team: What's the code for the Locker Room hidden door?
>>
>>343332054
Because there is a dangerous virus down there. It's a precaution.
>>
>>343332007
just like in MGS5?
oh wait
>>
I got the twins birthday hint but I don't know what it refers to.Should I have gotten it already?
>>
>>343332195
Have you transported yet?
>>
>>343332249
Depends, have you seen the twins get born?
>>
>>343332054
it looks cool
>>
>>343332249
You'll know when you get it.
>>
>>343332229
>>343332138
>>343332093
>>343332076
Why does he have a cane, we see later that he doesn't need one.
>>
>>343332249
It's obvious what it refers to once it happens, just play more D team.
>>
>>343332195
> I have no idea who killed Mira
let the timer run out
a lot of people stuck here.
>>
in the beginning, team Q doesnt question why delta/q wasnt with them for the coin toss
>>
>>343332362
No but I can't figure out how to unlock anything else.
>>343332378
>>343332428
Except I'm at a dead end and I can't find any other !, new fragments or choices I haven't made
>>
>>343332527
Their memory gets erased.
>>
>>343332471
>stuck here for 30 minutes trying random shit
>type in "I dont know" out of frustration
>mfw
>>
>>343332471
I answered Dunno
ANSWER ACCEPTED
>>
>>343332293
Yeah, I did the transportation. I've seen three timelines: transportation to the D-Team death timeline, staying in the original timeline timeline, and the choosing to not transport timeline, but the game has locked me out of progressing down "the stranded pair"
>>
>>343332669
Do you have all skulls lit up in the global flowchart?
>>
>>343332195
Type delta in the triangle
>>
>>343332573
not while the toss is going on
>we're all here?
>yeah, everyone except Q...
>>
Phi's adoptive parents are old researchers. Are they supposed to be Diana and Sigma or 1904 Phi, it said she became a scientist and lived into her 100's or someone else completely.
>>
>>343332938
Look at the files when you played through the game.
But it was old 1904 Phi.
>>
>>343332938
yeah it's the 1904 phi, it should be in one of the files you get near the end.
>>
>>343332938
Phi pulled a Bayonetta
>>
>>343317897

>Dianan is an extremely used, dumb slut

WHY DID THEY DO THIS

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
>>
>>343333250
Because Luna is pure
>>
>>343332550
at the top left of the flow chart make sure all 4 bubbles are filled (all teams survive, D dies, etc)

I was stuck too until someone told me
>>
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POST

>yfw delta enters the scene

The game literally shoved it off on my face and I STILL didn't know
>>
>>343333250
Because you have to start with something flawed in order to create someone as perfect as Luna.
>>
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>>343333381
>>
So this whole game is just Carlos's Magical Shifting Adventure to go back and open the force quit box?
>>
>>343333381
Also what's the code in the premium booklet to see the stuff online?
>>
>>343332769
Yes, and i've done all the timelines for the Decon Room, killed and spared all the teams. I now have like 3 new fragments for each team, and have only done C-Teams. Should I do them all? They all seem to be for inputting the Force Quit Box passwords
>>343332856
What Triangle?
>>
>>343333571
No it's let's kill a bunch of people without any qualms only to suddenly say killing people is wrong at the very end
>>
>>343333657
Force quit is literally the last thing you do
>>
> Q-End 1
Huh that was kind of underwhelming. That was Quark ending-tier.
>>
>>343332527
They didn't know that he wasn't there. They couldn't see into the other cells.
>>
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>>343333381
>"So this was the big twist?"
>>
>>343333708
>Quark
>Quar
>Qua
>Qu
>Q
no shit my man
>>
Can SHIFTers shift to their transported bodies or can the transported minds shift into the original bodies? With all the jumping I can't remember if it happened.
If they can Akane and Junpei got butthurt over Carlos sitting on his ass for 10 months. How about Phi going back to fucking 1904 and giving them a 100+ YEARS of planing.
>>
>>343333571
No, it's Carlos's Magical Shifting Adventure to wait and do nothing for 10 months.
Carlos shouldn't have known the password for the box, but Akane did (Junpei got wiped), so maybe she told him at some point after the VLR ending.
>>
>>343333708
>witness maniac homicide tear a guy's chest apart and pull out the heart

>oh. Well, guess we should leave now
>>
>>343333804
>Akane told him
He knew the same way that him and the other protags knew about the execution of the other teams. Blick Winkel.
>>
what was delta's relation to sean anyway
>>
>>343333571
Yes.

And it was fun as fuck.

The fact that he just keeps getting smugger and smugger every time is also priceless.

>Pff a shotgun just shot me
>Oh I'm so lucky, everything is exploding!

Also his dumb face he makes when akane tells him he could have just stopped zero before the game started and now he has killed 6 billions
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