So anon, would you kill 6 billion people in order tohave a zero time dilemma thread?
Jesus Christ having everything cutscenes gets really dull really fast
>>343182985
yeah, some of the endings really get into Metal Gear Solid levels of length. You can really appreciate that you can put your 3DS or Vita to sleep.
>>343183102
fuck, it gets even worse? I only just started and this is painful already, especially with the stilted dialogue
>>343182985
>>343183102
>Hating Movie-Novels
>>343183140
some of the endings and most of the "real" ending
my total game time was around 23-24 hours, maybe half of that was solving rooms
Most of what we know about Brother from VLR isincompatible with ZTD Brother's (admittedly complex) motives
>>343183140
one end goes on and on and on and on
>>343183221
man, that's awful
why the fuck did they think this was okay
How do I figure out the Control room on C-team
>>343183227
I think that it's the same guy with the same complex motives,he needed to ensure that the ZTD events hapenned, so he went full evil in the VLR timeline
>>343183346
it's a visual novel/puzzle game
Steam release when
>>343183221
So, same as 999 then?
>>343183346
Complex motives.
>>343183434
You don't need cutscenes in a visual novel, 999 and VLR did fine with just having text you can go through as fast as you want
Hell, if you need voice acting, just have that in text you can skip through, like Prof. Layton or something
>>343183440
2 hours.
>>343183425
you can do the knobs right away, then voltage, then containers
I was stuck there for a while too
>>343183346
It's no different that any VN set on auto.
>>343183509
>You don't need cutscenes in a visual novel
Says who?
I know you want to bitch about anything because that's /v/ nature and all, but fuck, this level of retardation is just annoying.
>>343183509
actually if they dropped all the "dramatic" camera angles it would work better with theQ revealyou wouldn't see him, because he didn't say anything
>>343183603
>>343183554
What? You can have voice acting and animations without the need of having it be a cutscene, just have the text at the bottom and press A like almost every VN ever.
In what world is wanting to play at your own pace "retardation"?
>>343183346
>>343183509
>>343183102
>>343183140
>A VISUAL NOVEL/MOVIE WITH PUZZLES HAS A LOT OF WORDS/NO GAMEPLAY MOMENTS?!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Full retarded.
>>343183434
So basically it's the same handwavey shit 999 had? Why did brother do X? Well he had to, to get the outcome he wanted! The only difference is, at least Akane knew what to do through the morphogenetic field. Also it's a lot more forgiving when you do it once, not a second time. How did brother figure out exactly what to do, in order to get the exact outcome he wanted? Was itMIND HACK?
>>343183708
calm down anon
>>343183708
That's not what I said, dumbfuck. Try again.
>>343183729mind hack, quantum computer, alien devices
any combination of these
>>343183530
I dont quite understand how to do the voltage, I've gotten the sunglasses and battery part already
>>343183425
What's the Control Room again? Is it the one with the nuclear reactor?
>>343183873
did you combine these 2 completly unrelated things?
>>343183908
the one with the 10 lockers andone gasmask
>play a movie-game
>bitch about it being a movie game
Sure is summer.
>>343183729
What part of 999 exactly was handwavey?
Be honest with me /v/.
Is the Japanese or English audio superior?
>>343184019
>>343183708
>>343183603
damn son, calm your autism, there's better ways of presenting a VN
>>343183873
Is it the one where you're supposed to connect one side to the other? There are two things with voltage signs, one is the place where you do the actual connecting, the other one is a picture directly behind. Use your sunglasses, go into mode A, track the wires on to that picture there, take note which arabic numeral matches with which roman numeral, then on the actual place where you connect the wires, connect the arabic numeral with the roman numeral.
>>343184073
I'm completely fine with the English voice actors and those are the ones I understand so I'm going for that
>>343183729
>>343183814
Here's my stupid theory. So at some pointafter the true end of ZTD, Phi decides to SHIFT into ayylium transporter version of herself that stayed in 1904 (around the time of Delta's younger age), at some point she runs into Delta, Delta uses MIND HACK, gets ALL THE INFO FROM THE ENTIRE SERIES from Phi, now knowing what he has to do, Delta sets his entire plan into motion in order to save humanity.
It's the only way Brother has any reason to do anything he does.
>>343184073
I liked the English VA more in VLR, so I'm going for the English VA again in ZTD
So... what happened toKyle?Was he the dog?AKANE: I doubt you know how much the doctor loves Kyle. He raised him on his own. Kyle is irreplaceable. Do you really think he would go back to the past and leave Kyle behind here? I know what I told the others - that Kyle was Doctor Klim's spare - but that was not his only purpose. Kyle's consciousness is integral to what we are trying to accomplish. This new mission begins on Christmas, and ends on New Year's Eve, 2028. Its purpose will be to infiltrate the test facility and prevent the spread of the virus. For this to happen, Kyle is absolutely necessary.
?: And that is why he created him?
AKANE: Yes.
?: So now that my consciousness has entered his body, the doctor has achieved his objective. Kyle has gone back to 2028 to participate in his mission.
AKANE: Correct.
>>343184073
The English audio is fine, but the Japanese one is the best I hear in years, they did a pretty good job.
>>343184073
I'd go as far as to say it is the best English voice work I've heard out of a Japan-based game. By far.
WAIT A SECOND THATRING
>>343184338
I don't like Junpei's Jap VA. The others were good though.
>>343184379
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITending stil sucks
>>343184462
Hey theendings which go into VLRwere pretty good they made the game for me
>>343184379
Is Akane a virgin?
>>343184532
that's why I used the singular form - only the last ending sucks, the others were fine
So, no spoilers, but I seem to be trapped? Like, I can't go back to another timeline, and I'm stuck trying to open a door I have no idea for the code for at desicion time. I can't even select another team cause their fragments are all gone.
>>343184693
1) Make sure you have seen all teams' execution scenes (the 4 icons at the top left need to be lit)
2) When asked "WHO KILLED !@#$", let it time out
I find these 2 points are the most common things people overlook.
>>343184693
That's one of the dead ends, you have to start a new file.
>>343184693have you executed every team?
have you made that all the teams survive?
It's all on the global flowchart
>>343184793
Seriously? I have to start a whole new file?
>>343184813
No, but I can't select any earlier fragments, and trying to select anything above them i nthe flowchart gives me a beeping noise.
>>343184121
I still cant get it what the fuck
>>343184693
there is another scene available
>>343184793
>>343184782
these two are to be ignored
>>343184867
>another scene
So there is! Thanks anon, Idk why they made the ! the same colour as the ?, but here we are.
>>343182885
I thought it was kill six billion demons.
>>343184850
you dont need to restart the whole game
so I assume you're trying to open the yellow door? have you tried typing anything?
>>343184860
Nevermind I got it
>>343184860
45 12 23 51 34
>>343184956
>>343184867
>you don't have to restart the game
you guys are no fun
>>343184693
I don't remember anything like that, if you mean the yellow door just input the wrong code or select back.
>>343184985
Great. I was worried there because I literally outlined the steps to the solution
You know the drill
>>343184954
demons? I thought that addingayylienswas enough to shatter my suspension of disbelief
I'm stuck on the teleporter, interacting with the cell, feels like i'm missing some piece of information.
>>343185189
>teleporter
it's actually afax machine
read the virtual book, it has 6 chapter in total
>>343185118
what is CarlosB doing in the timelines not leading up to VLR?
>>343185118
Kept you waiting huh?
>>343185189
Which part? Translating symbols into numbers? Gathering cards?
>>343185274
hugging his imouto?
>>343185257
>>343185306
Figured it out, didn't realise the printer turned on.
What didDelta mean when he assured Akane that she would be attending the Free the Soul meetings in April?
>>343185376
he played VLR
>>343185376
Always act like you're in control over bitches.
>>343185460
Uchi is such a fucking hack I swear. I'm going to do everyone here a favor, and fucking kill him. It won't be because of stupid quantum whatever nonsense. I will obsessively stalk and kill him.
>>343185547
he is actuallyUchikoshi and makes up everything on the spot
>>343185591
Do the Heart Ripping thing if you do go through with it, would love to see the press that would generate.
>>343185591
figure out his daily routine and keep setting snails on his way
Why are the boys sofuckable?
HOLY SHIT 10 MINUTES AFTER MIDNIGHT
>>343185750
it's the shorts, cute voice andno head
>>343185810
>let's just all believe the device we got from the madman that locked us in here
>especially when there's no natural sunlight here and basically no point in tracking time, because you're sleeping every 90 minutes
Do you think theSeanrobots were fully equipped? I wonder how much timeZerospent having creepy pedo-robo orgies.
>>343185921
The one purpose the watches did serve, knowing when they would be re-injected, were typically useful and never wrong
>>343186007Their heads open up into cable sockets, who knows what kinky shit they have for junk
>>343186125
the announcer could provide the same function, but they could't sell cheap chinese watches that way
>that fucking ending
I thought you guys were kidding, that was pretty terrible. I feel slightly less bad about my decision to wait to buy on sale.
>>343186280
>ending
that implies some closure, surely you meant the sequel hook
>>343186369
>implyingterrorist love nonary game
>>343184073
Since english is not my native language, I prefer superior original japanese voices.
>that fucking ending
I thought you guys were kidding, that was pretty good. I feel slightly less bad about my decision to not listen to /v/.
>>343186473
it would be interesting if the terrorist turned out to be a shifter or if we played as a new Zero
but it would be a pain in the ass to write a good scenario with no plot holes - an impossible task for Uchi
Bois, I need help. How the hell do you get the dead pig into the sink?
>>343184328
Speaking ofGabWhy the fuck did Zero kill him before the last SHIFT?
Diana: "Sigma, honey. I think I might be pregnant."
Sigma: "..."
Sigma: "Adios, bitch!"
*Shifts to another timeline*
>>343186739
because fuck you, there was no reason
When did these threads stop being graffix shitposting?
>>343186739
Complex resons
>>343186739So the others won't feel bad leaving him behind to die as dogs can't shift if we go by the name; only humans can.
>>343186819the thing is a sigma would replace the sigma who shifted. Diana will keep getting the 18 dick
>>343186739
Presumably since the dog isn't a SHIFTer
That way the final decision is only for SHIFTers and the crew don't worry about a non SHIFTer and arbitrarily stay behind for a dog
Or maybe it was too complex a motive for me to understand ,':^)
>>343186960
When they started being movie bitching/ cliffhanger shitposting.
>>343186819
>you will never be cucked by yourself from another timeline
feels pretty good, M2 can go fuck himself
>>343186681
Put it on the counter next to the sink.
>people pretending to understand the "plot"
WEW
>>343187120
>people not having to pretend that they don't understand the plot
LMAOing at your life
>>343187008
That seems... plausible. But still stupid.
>>343187120
come on, post your 1000+ word theory on the last ending
Does someone know if there'll be a leak of the steam version?
I want to buy it on psvita when I have the money, but I really want to play it now and I don't think there are any 3ds emulators o psvita emultaros on the net
I just realized that Crash Keys literally means "Kurashikis". It's probably more obvious in Japanese.
>>343186739One of Brother's motivations is to troll everyone, as evidenced in the ending where Diana melts everyone. That timeline was useless in the grand scheme of things but Brother made sure to torment Diana for giggles
Do you guys think the game would have been better or worse if the game had kept the visual novel format of the first 2 games instead of fully animated cutscenes?
I think it might have been better if they had kept them as the animations are just bad a lot of the time and it probably would have made some of the twists work better. However I guess a lot of tension would have been lost in the more life-threatening scenarios e.g. when you have a gun pointed at you.
>>343187451
man, can someone fucking skewer Uchikoshi? that's an awful pun
>>343187427
Steam will relase in about 1 hour
Why would you want a leak at this point?
>>343187560
see >>343183672
It would also be cheaper to make
>>343187560
Better, as the ending could've gotten more closure because there would be no need to animate as many models and the budget could've been spent on more art
>>343187560
A mix would have been the best thing.
Someone pls spoiler me the true ending.
>>343187850Zero was the good guy that was training you to go and save the world from a imminent WW3
>>343187850The real Zero pretended to be retarded and did all that that the ZTD crew become good friends and find osama bin laden the second
>>343187850
You win the coin toss.
Nothing in these "games" makes any sense.
Why do people pretend to like this shit?
>>343187850Zero is Brother who is also a quantum copy of Sigma and Diana's child from a timeline they got stranded in a shelter. His motive was to get the cast in a proper mindset to stop a terrorist from killing 8 billion people in the timeline he doesn't unleash Radical 6. Yes the game that was supposed to be the end of the trilogy had sequel bait in the ending
Did anybody of you alsonot swapat the Monty Hall problem to get the wrong path andended up picking the right locker?
how the fuck does this cube puzzle work in the infirmary? I have no idea what I'm even looking at here.
>>343188294
it's a 50% chance regardless of the monty hall problemwhat was even the point of that room?
>>343188339
Just use the bottoms and sides as a guide.
>>343188415
No the rng of that room is real (it is revealed in the files). SO you have 10 lockers and a 90% chance of being right if you swap.
It was to show you the Monty Hall problem.
Did we even know something about Santa at this point? It's just seems like he doesn't exist at all
>>343188415
go away junpei, it is 90% if you swap
Ya know, something's been bugging me a lot about Phi.We know that the Phi that got sent back was a copy, but there's dialogue towards the end that suggests Phi was sent AGAIN through the machine to 2008. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that make the current Phi a copy of a copy? What the hell happened to the original if Delta was raised in Germany?
>>343188489
But there are 3 peices with yellow on the top.
>>343188415
>it's a 50% chance regardless
It's not
>>343188591the joke is 1908 phi helped raise 2008 phi
>>343188107
it's fun to theorize about stupid shit like VLR's twist failingif Sigma at any point had to take a piss and saw his wrinkled, 70 year old penis
>>343188510
He gets mentioned by Junpei in a scene with C-Team.
He also mentions Ace, Seven and Lotus.
>>343188591It's in a file. The original copy lived into her 100s like Brother and became a researcher who was eventually assigned to the transporter in 2008 and implied to have taken care of the Phi we know and love
>>343188685
Or if he looked into the fucking water in the garden puzzle. Oh wait, YOU ACTUALLY HAD TO DO THAT.
I'm still mad.
>>343188685Old Sigma setting up VLR and cringing once he goes through his clothes and sees his dumb blue vest/spoiler]
>>343188509
>It was to show you the Monty Hall problem
but why? it's not brought up later and both of the outcomes of that room suck
>>343188676
>>343188724
That...actually makes sense
>>343188861
he had other things on his mind :^)
If I had leaked the story of ZTD month ago, would you have believed me?
>>343189042
hell no, we expecteda conclusion to the story, not training shit again
>>343188949
It was mentioned that he wanted to use the Monty Hall problem already in VLR.
He just likes common stuff that seem interesting or mysterious, like the sleeping beauty paradox or the prisoner's dilemma.
Sometimes I had the feeling Uchi just reads random wikipedia articles and says "yeah that sounds cool, I put that into my game".
I think it's funny.
>>343188415
Go be a meat shield somewhere else Junpei.
>>343189362
hey, it worked
>>343188516
At least Junpei has the excuse that they were in danger and there was no time to think. That anon is just an idiot.
>>343188415
Rolling 1's with three dice is also a 50% chance. Either it happens or it doesn't.
>>343189631
>there was no time to think
they're shifters, they have all the time in the world
>>343189930
>they're shifters, they have all the time in the world
They only thought about shiftingafter Carlos had informations from the meme field. Before that they don't even think about just going to the coin toss branch.
>>343190184
give in and read the spoilers
save yourself the disappointment
>>343190060
aren't Akanethe one from the VLR future? even if not, they already came in contact with Sigma and Phi from that future, they should know already about shifting
>>343190421
Does it matter?They still don't do it until Carlos sees both endings of the AB game.
Can someone link me the imgur screenshot dump that one guy posted?
I'mma make an analytical thing off of my theory document to see how much I got right/wrong.
>>343190184
Please for the love of God someone upload the art book when it is unlocked.
Akyss June even said there is a puzzle inside it.
I've seen endless time people wanting a series to end on a trilogy, why do people want trilogies so bad? What's wrong with a, uh, quadrology?
>>343190421
Akane never told Sigma that she took part in the game. Diana was in on the lie as well.
>>343190790
Uchi himself said ZE3 is going to be the end of the arching story.
Anything past ZE3 will more or less be standalone, new cast, new concepts, yada yada.
>>343190865
Well that's clearly not true.
>>343190906
Who the fuck knows before we know?
Okay I just read the files in the post game. Everything was pretty gooduntil Sean, Eric, and Mira. Are you seriously telling me that dick Eric adopted Sean? And Mira turned herself in? And then they break her out and say they're going to stop her from committing murder? That's bullshitbut I believe it.
>>343190985
eric is a good boy
>tfw no ost
>>343190790
Because this game is gonna bomb and we'll never get the answers we wanted out of this game
>>343191159
It's on YouTube.
>>343191259
I googled it, the only playlist was deleted.
Why would you pay $40 for a VN?
Man wait till it goes to $20 like VLR.
Where do I get the manual for the centrifuge? In the biolab clicking on the shelf just has the character go "this sure is a lot of tools I don't know how to use" no matter where I click,
>>343190985
>hey, lets make you having a character development and confessing to your crimes completely irrelevant
fucking brilliant
>>343191559
Search for the magic pixel on the shelf
1 hour
>>343191467
You can't really call ZTD a VN. More like a really long movie. Feels like the puzzle game equivalent of MGS4.
>>343191583
It's not character development, it's just straight up out of character. All signs in the actual game point toMirabeing a medically diagnose-able psychopath, which isn't something that you can just "cure."
>>343191658
Any clue where it is? I've clicked everywhere.
>>343191467
to support the hack
So I'm stuck on Door of Truth. I don't have all the executions, unfortunately, and I can't access any of the other fragments to get to the one whereI have to not answer when Eric asks who killed Mira. Any ideas?
>>343191835
Get the executions
>>343191764
she just needed a good dicking to get healed from theheart obsession
4 minutes til steam release boys
>>343191919
Torrent when?
>>343191919
1 hour.
>>343191919
1 hour 4 minutes*
>>343191835
check flowchart for a (!)
>>343191980
Nah, status updates every hour
>>343191835
I got stuck there as well.
Play the "don't transport" scene, then go to it again on the flowchart, there will be a "!" scene there.
>>343191770
>>343192042
Steam games release at 10, not 9
>get minorly spoiled thata character named Delta exists in ZTD
>put in his name as a decision>Q spins around and shoots the cameraman
I have no idea what is going on.
Why are people complaining about story in a VN?
Is the summer that strong?
>>343192137
Don't read unless you want major spoilersDelta is Zero is Q is the person you're playing as
>>343192056
>tfw I did not miss that note on the shitty 3DS screen
On the other hand I missed one of the clues for the puzzle in the control room, because it was a light color on a light background
>>343192137
>Q spins
>>343192137
well nothing is really ruined for you.
So, what was the point of mira and eric again?
>>343192048
So I need to do the "don't transport" scene twice?
>>343192195
>Why are people complaining about one of the most important parts in a VN?
>>343192259Mira was employed by Zero. Eric is just Mira's beta male(with a pretty fucked up backstory).
>>343188415
>swap twice
>lost both times
Well fuck. And I actually knew how monty hall worked.
>>343192135
ah well shit
>>343192307
>>343192229
I don't have enough anime girls with question marks on their heads to show how confused I am right now.
>>343184073
This is just my opinion, please no bully.
>Akane: JP > EN
Both are good but 'Sawashiro > all' rules applies here.
>Junpei: JP < EN
When the JP screams he sounded like an annoying brat.
>Carlos: JP > EN
Motherfucking Sugita. The English one makes him more like a rash person more than a bro tier firefighter.
>Eric: JP > EN
Ishida is jut glorious. His voices shines when Eric starts to snaps. The english one is pretty bad.
>Mira: JP = EN
I can't really say which one is better actually as Mira isn't that challenging role to begin with.
>Sean: JP = EN
Both are cute. I really can't decide.
>Diana: JP > EN
Too bad Bailey didn't make a return. Her roles as Luna made me solid diamond.
>Phi: JP > EN
The english takes the cool lady type too seriously and as a result she came out with a bland voice when Phi is clearly panicking and and in emotional distress. The JP one captures it better.
Sigma: JP > EN
Ono did his role better easily. I like Mercer's in general but somehow he sounded like he half-assed his job in this.
Delta: JP < EN
Douglass literally wins here despite the recording quality.
Overall, JP >>> EN
Not saying English dub is shit, but there is no way the could beat those JP cast.
80% of the JP's VA are veteran and famous in their Seiyuu career.
>>343191890
Can't get them if I can't access the fragments.
>>343192017
I've done that.
>>343192548
>liking HanaKana
>>343192439
>>343192282
Once you've done it once, go the flowchart, find the "don't transport", there will be a branch in it.
>>343192643
post flowchart
Anyone know what the second word is for D's FQB? I know what the keyitem is but none the words fit.
>Less than a fucking hour left for steam
>>343192259
>>343192410
I think it was to show that evennon-espers can gain the ability to SHIFT if their near SHIFTers in a desperate situation. If not then it was all just complex motives.
>>343192548
But I liked Matt Mercer in this game.
>>343192439
How are you still confused?
You were literally just shown that there is a 4th person on Q-team.
That is a major twist.
>>343192643
>I can't access the fragments
you're in front of the door? try typing anything, the scene should end
>>343192792BLUE_BIRD (with a space)
>>343192695
Hanakana didn't voice anyone in this game.
>>343192792Music box
>>343192845
nono ignore this person, it is just a joke ending
>>343192876
Oh my god I'm retarded.
>waiting for steam
JUST FUCKING RELEASE THE GAME FFS
Do I need to play Virtue's Last Reward first?
>Steam release delayed
fucking incompetent retards
>>343193137
Yes you fuckingSigma is Zero
>>343193148
What why
So when didSean reveal their names to Eric and Mira? I thought he didn't remember but in every ending it feels like they know.
>>343193137
Not necessary as the game explains everything, but you would miss on a lot of cool shit and it would be a pretty stupid move not to.
>>343193137
If you want any understanding of what Sigma and Phi are talking about? Kinda.
>>343193137
not really
>>343193210Every game you play as Zero to set up some shenanigans to awaken new morphogenetic powers
>>343192992
well, the ending IS a joke...
>>343193137
>do I need to play the first two games of the trilogy?
You're probably one of those people that ask if they should play MGS in chronological or release order
>>343193137
Nope, but there are 1 or 2 cheeky references for those who played it
>>343193137
Of course youSigma is 67
>>343193236
When did Eric and Miratell him their names?
>>343193148
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>>343193148
>Amazon has indefinitely delayed my watch edition
>Even Steam is spiting me
ahhhhhhhhh
>>343184379
>still wearing it on her right hand
neat
Anyone gonna upload this shit for us poorfags?
>>343193408
Source
>>343193236
I asked this before and the answer I got wasoff screen.
Have a nice day.
>>343193351
The point is that when asked the kid replies with everything uhhh I don't know, I don't remember, and in the "happy ending" he is revealed he didn't know his name, Zero had to tell him.
>>343193236Off screen.
There is no indication that the scene Delta viewing actually start right after the three wake up from their slumber.
>>343193492
Of course he doesn't know,he wasn't programmed to know
>>343192771
Is this the one where Sigma and Dianatransfer, but come out of the same pods they went into?
>>343193492
Eric knows it when he asksWho killed Miraand he'snot an esper like the rest of the cast
>>343192936
whoa, I thought she was
but then again I hear it all through the shitty 3DS speakers
>>343193441
Look at this. I put in a preorder for a game a year ago. It's now a day after release, the delivery status has not budged, and the bumblefucks at aksys have not sent me the individual game like they said they would do (while they wait for the dirty factory chinks to make new watches).
Zero isSteve Jobs
>>343193760
What does that have to do with Steam being delayed?
>>343193760
http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/28/12051892/zero-time-dilemma-amazon-shipment-delays
>everybody can solve overly complex anagrams in a matter of seconds
What in the fuck.
>>343193776What if Steve Jobs became Albert Wesker?
>>343193876
ayylmao, pirating it 3 days before release was a good decision
>>343194012
COMPLETE
I thought I solved a thing but the answer of "Milf" was wrong.
