Breath of the Wild
Here I go again on my own!
Post your hopes and wishes and lore theories.
Definitely seems like there will be some space themes, with that mountain that looks like a comet or crashing spaceship ripped a chunk out of it.
Also that airship floating around the map could be aliens.
Maybe something about the shiekah being aliens or spacefairing people.
gamexplain got some direct feed footage, doesn't really look that much higher quality to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpyFrsKUrvU
>>342863117
>Also that airship floating around the map could be aliens.
>>342863343
Spaceships dont need propellers
>>342863682
where do you see propellers?
i see what looks like a space engine on the lower back of it
I wonder how long stasis lasts for.
It's actually a good thing that the game pauses for you as you search the menu, rather than utilize a real-time system like Skyward Sword. This allows for more depth in combination with stasis.
I want to see if you can suspend a bomb, and while it's suspended, use the leaf to blow a bunch of gusts so that when it blows up, the hot air is buffered and blows forward away from you. But that means you would have to be able to suspend wind too, which is unlikely. Unless there's another Sheikah power for that.
I just want a collection of towns that feel alive and have quests that reach out to other towns like how you had to help bring the milk to clock town.
Shit was so cash
Can some one dsump the webms?
Couldn't save them n my pc last time.
shameless bump
Only have a few
thanks
>>342869609
Is the saturation too high on that tv?
I hope the Gerudo are in it.
Posting it again since the old thread is about to archive.
>>342863117
>hopes and dreams
Music
That's all
>>342873021
This is completely retarded in so many different ways.
How can you have a timeline convergence when the splits are mutually exclusive?
>>342873380
Introduce a constant?
>>342873380
Sheikah Ayylmao Technology Magic anon, that's how.
That's right, the technology has always been around, just cycling back around, it's Zelda, I ain't gotta explains hit.
>>342863117
>gamexplain got some direct feed footage
How did they even manage to get their hands on that?
Gamexplain are rather scummy. I have a hard time believing companies would cooperate with them that easily.
>>342863117
>Definitely seems like there will be some space themes, with that mountain that looks like a comet or crashing spaceship ripped a chunk out of it.
Someone in the treehouse said the shrines were very space like, so I definitely think there's more than meets the eye to them.
Question for the sake of new discussion: Are there any items you don't want in the game and/or are there any changes to past Zelda items that you think would be interesting for this game?
>hookshot now works with the physics
>e.g. attaches to enemies shields and drags them to you if they are lighter, drags you to them if you are lighter
>>342873380
Probably means no matter which path you follow it'll end and begin with the Era of Calamity like the Age of Dark in the Souls games. The hard reset for the universe.
>>342873021
>Minish Cap
>After Skyward Sword
The Hyrule Historia is a joke. But I guess that's nothing new.
>>342873678
>Twilight Portals are Warp Portals
>Twilight Realm is in a random place in Space
>Twili are Sheikah
>The Sheikah were the Goddesses and are coming back to the Planet
>Sheikah eye inside the Triforce is the Illuminati
IDS HABBENING
>>342873719
I hope we get double hookshots right away since we can already climb everything. Also hoping for some different arrow types.
>>342873834
>A game with the Kingdom of Hyrule after a game without the Kingdom of Hyrule
HMMMM
>>342873719
i want a spiky shield that effectively works like the spinner but you can shield surf anywhere with it
>>342873771
>A future game will have you break out
>A true evil arises
So anyone find it kind of strange that BoTW is the first time ever where Link is actually named "Link" and not whatever the player decided to fill in for the dialogue while relying on some generic title like "hero" in voiced cut scenes? I'm sure we'll be able to name our save files, but that's probably all it'll ever extend to.
But on one end, it provides more justification that Link is becoming his own character. Could it have something to do with the plot or the gameplay?
>>342873976
>shield has spikes on the front end instead of sides
>try to shieldboard
>get stuck in ground
>>342873859
They showed you can just walk to a brazier with your arrow and light it on fire.
>>342874118
meant around the outside
>>342874114
It means you aren't the actual hero and you're just a robot, a Link to the hero. You'll probably meet the actual Hero of the game at some point.Old Man
>>342873970
>A game explaining the origin of the hero's hat after a game where the legendary hero already wore that hat
HMMMM
>>342874203
I know, it just gave me a funny image of one with it on the front getting stuck in the ground.
>>342873607
>Gamexplain are rather scummy. I have a hard time believing companies would cooperate with them that easily.
They do almost nothing but jerk Nintendo off, and have been to a number of exclusive Nintendo press events.
>>342874289
Well it's been retconned, deal with it. Besides that story never made sense anyways, OoT Link wears a hat because all the Kokiri wear the same hat. WW and TP Link are the only ones that wear a hat because the Hero of Time wore it.
>>342874230
But old man is all but confirmed to be the king.
>Har har har laugh
>Hyrule Castle Jingle
>pic related going on with the beard
>>342873607
>I have a hard time believing companies would cooperate with them that easily.
They actually get direct footage for Nintendo games very regularly.
>>342874362
Gamexplain steals footage. They edit footage. And sometimes even flat out misrepresents footage.
>>342874485
King Link
>>342874485
Implying the old man isn't Zelda.
Hopefully this game will unify the three timelines.
>>342873607
>Gamexplain are rather scummy. I have a hard time believing companies would cooperate with them that easily.
Why is it so hard to believe?
Youtube channels and e-celebs have practically replaced the purpose of game journalists and sites as marketing and ad revenue now, and GameXplain does nothing but relentlessly shill for Nintendo on their channel. It makes perfect sense.
>>342874485
TFW he becomes a boat again to travel the ocean.
>>342874485
That and the presence of the Koroks who evolved specifically to suit the ecology of flooded Hyrule.
>>342874552
When have they "stolen" footage?
Of course they edit footage, so does everybody else.
When have they "misrepresented" footage, beyond their own borderline retarded trailer analysis, which is always admitted to be speculation.
>>342873678
>with that mountain that looks like a comet or crashing spaceship ripped a chunk out of it.
Yeah. I am definitely going there.
>>342874684
Implying he isn't the deku tree
>>342874821
How long did it took you to notice this?
>>342874980
reading comprehension, buddy
>>342863343
At least post the webm brah
>>342874980
I've noticed it years ago m8, I'm just pointing out the obvious for someone else.
>>342874913
thats a cloud , not a hole
>>342874869
>evolved
Here we go
>>342875091
yeah, sorry i made the gif a while ago for cellphone people and sites that don't do webm
>>342875094
Anyone with a brain could figure who shills and who is objective and this derails the thread.
>>342874869
>When have they "misrepresented" footage
Just recently they recorded Bloodstained on the E3 floor. And then went "woops we couldn't get good sound, so we slapped onto this terrible sound ourselves!". Which they admittedly with a line in the video description, but it still sounds terrible and now tons of people think that's how the demo actually sounds.
And they have done this and things like it many times before.
I don't have any real beef with gamexplain but they do seem to do whatever is easy for them and don't seem to put that much care into their product.
>>342874869
Evolution is a meme even IRL anon. Just stop it.
>>342875123
you're dumb
>>342873021
But this LITERALLY can't be a thing because Link, Zelda, Ganon/dorf, and the Master Sword were not a thing until Skyward Sword.
Fuck y'all need to use your heads, god damn.
Hopes
>grappling hook
>different companions
>different mounts
>own-able property you can store stuff in
>happy mask salesman
>lots of swords from previous games
>npc interaction like what was intended for oot
>a town that feels alive like clocktown
>fist weapons
>a dark link battle
Dreams
>a bear companion
>a flying mount
>customizable property
>fierce deity mask
>master sword from lttp with red hilt
>dark link works nemesis style from shadow of mordor
>friendly deku npcs
>>342873719
I want mask but it won't happen.
>>342875318
>I don't have any real beef with gamexplain but they do seem to do whatever is easy for them and don't seem to put that much care into their product.
They're just a shitty youtube channel, that gets some early Nintendo scoops.
Why would you put trust in their judgement or the quality of their work?
Clearly you were able to discern what was going on and are an informed consumer.
If you don't like them, then just don't watch.
This has to be the most boring gameplay ive ever seen
literally just walking around a shadow of the colossus empty world while occasionally fighting 2 or 3 goblins
>>342875224
Its ok, have agif poop
>>342863343
>>342875091
>airships
>>342875609
It's just bothersome to see people link to gamexplain when gamexplain either gets things glaringly wrong or misrepresents stuff through their videos themselves. With people not realizing it.
And there is sadly far too many people who don't realize it. Even when disclaimer are provided.
It happens far too often. I mean, yeah, they essentially just another shitty youtube channel. But they have a surprisingly large audience so you'd wish or rather hope that they would step up their game and do some more thorough and polished work.
>>342873719
The fact that we can craft out own elixirs and potions makes me wonder if there'll even be bottles to find in BotW.
I hope there still are. Maybe at the end of shrines or something and they're like Shiekah magitech bottles or some shit.
>>342875412
That's what they want you to think, turns out they were always there, but became something less so they could become something more.
PARADOXES
>>342863343
Please let that be a dungeon
>>342873834
You're retarded, and should probably replay both those games
>>342876312
The hero didn't have a green cap before Minish Cap. At the very least not until they retconned it with Skyward Sword.
>>342874869
>That and the presence of the Koroks who evolved specifically to suit the ecology of flooded Hyrule.
But they do terrible outside of their Sacred Grove.
>>342876509
nah that's stupid and doesn't make sense
he can wear a green hat whenever the fuck he wants, and there's literally no way the minish cap existing can mean otherwise
>>342875513
Hopes:
>fishing akin to TP and OoT's fishing, but anywhere and everywhere
>dual blade/axe/mace-wielding
>hook shot is just as crazy as free-climbing for maximum cuhrazy effect to occur
>optional Bethesda-tier companions
>romance system makes a return after getting scrapped from OoT
>Final Boss isn't calamity Ganon
>farming and housing implemented in towns, we can make our own cottage, complete with a garden and stable to grow and raise stuff
>different mounts aside from horses, like deer, boars, wolves or maybe something even crazier, such as dodongos
>timeshift stones to return as a gameplay mechanic for puzzle-solving
>crafting for weapons and gear
Dreams:
>mindfuck plot
>darkest Zelda game since MM, if ever
>transformations forms, something akin to the masks from MM
>co-op mode as multiplayer
>timeline conversion theory is true
>npcs operate on a time system that extends to a week instead of 3 days, but their activities are less specific as a result
>Link is fake/robot/artificial/clone theory is true
>guardian amiibo unlocks guardian companion or mount
>overworld music, just great music in general
>true final battles is fake Link against the real Link
>>342873607
multiple sites have gotten direct feed footage
>>342874869
Actually if you look at the facing direction of the Temple of Time based on the maps we have, Kokiri Forest appears to be surrounded by a lake and water and chasms. They'd need to become Koroks in order to survive and fly.
>>342876123
That's the beautiful thing about youtube shit in comparison to professional work like gaming sites and the like.
You don't have to step up your shit, you can just be a lazy person with semi-competent editing skills and get thousands of views regardless.
>>342874913
Death mountain already had a hole in it there before in OOT. You had to climb up there.
>>342874485
It would make no sense for the old man to be the king seeing as how the this game takes place after zelda 2
>>342875774
As opposed to what?
>>342876686
Minish Cap outright showed you that the previous heroes didn't have the cap. And by the end of it Link became famous with Ezlo and the cap became tradition.
Hopes
>First Nintendo H game
Dreams
>Ditch the 300 similar weapons in the inventory gimmick
>>342876971
gameplay vids of games that arent boring and empty? its so dull
everything about this game is so fucking boring
>>342876961
There is no concrete evidence for this game being anywhere specific on the timeline, at least not yet.
>>342876705
>Link is fake/robot/artificial/clone theory is true
>Final Boss isn't calamity GanonFinal Boss is calamity Link. The real one.
>>342877025
>there's no way any previous incarnation of link could ever wear a green cap
>>342876961
There is still a Zelda, two actually by that point. That doesn't mean they can't have sons that inevitable end up as king. Hell they'd have to for Daphnes to be King and not Prince.
>>342877036
You can only hold like 10.
>>342863117
So are you guys going to bite the bullet and get the NX or play the shitty version on Wii U?
I guess I'll play on Wii U since I don't really want to buy a console at launch and I'm sure it'll have droughts just like Wii U did.
>>342875513
Sadly, your companion dreams have been dashed.
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_legend_of_zelda_breath_of_the_wild/b/wii_u/archive/2016/06/24/eiji-aonouma-on-zeldas-new-look-and-why-nintendo-wasnt-inspired-by-skyrim.aspx
>no companions other than wolf link(verbiage is a little weird, but I don't think he was trying to talk around anything)
>shiekah slate runes, hp, and stamina upgrades obtained through shrines
>players have a different reason for going to dungeons than to shrines
>a lot of items(maybe most) that are crucial to traversing the world are given out early, are upgraded throughout the game to increase your capacity for exploration
>>342877025
Or you know, the tradition from SS was lost to time, and as someone pointed out, the Hero of Time doesn't wear a cap because of MC Link, he wears it because of the Kokiri (who are not the Picori mind you). Then from there everyone just sort of wears it, WW/TP Link as that anon said directly thanks to the HoT, not MC Link.
>>342877276
Probably get the NX. I'm just hoping that Nintendo learned from most of their mistakes and we're getting a competent console this time around.
>>342877134
It's in the fucking Adult timeline.
There's fucking koroks.
What the fuck else do you need?
>>342874869
>>342875170
Yeah here we DO go motherfucker
>"Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes." — Great Deku Tree
EVERY FUCKING THREEAD
It's all unnecessary back and forth speculation of course, but if you want it to that quote can imply that they were Koroks before "taking on human forms"
And just to get it out of the way a little early, no the ancient sea salt you can find doesn't have to mean this is after WW. There was an ocean in the distant past of SS in Lanayru before it became a desert
>>342877250
It was the only thing in the game that i didn't like.
>>342877473
It's in the Downfall and Child Timeline.
There's fucking Sheikah.
What the fuck else do you need?
Koroks denote a change in geography for the Kokiri, it is not Great Sea dependent. Besides Kokiri forest is underwater in BotW anyways.
>>342874913
I think it's pretty obvious what happened there
>>342875513
>>342876705
I'm hoping for deeper combat and more difficult enemies. Hopefully we get sword techniques ala TP but only useful this time, with enemies that force you to actually git gud. And not just techniques for swords but your other weapons as well. I'm hoping you get some badass fist weapons as well.
In addition, I hope there's a sizable water-based area that forces us to use a boat, as a homage to WW and that one bit in SS. I want open-world sailing done right.
I want timeshift stones to return, since that shit was awesome.
I want towns to be massive and lively, with each town to have its own distinctive culture and 'feel'. I want good music in these towns to set the mood too and I want good music period.
I NEED several good humanoid one-on-one boss fights that really take advantage of the improved combat.
Plot-wise, I want the time loop theory to be confirmed true, with the game being set simultaneously at the end of the convergence of all timelines and before SS, with you playing as Hylia's champion. I want them to go full meta on it, make the game's narrative some kind of commentary or analysis about the relationship between the devs and the player or the player and the series. Some really cool, crazy shit like that.
Not green-text but who gives a fuck?
>>342863117
>hopes
Flanged maces.
More mounts than just horses.
Weapon and armour upgrades.
Dyes for armour and cloth.
Whetstones so you can repair weapons on the fly.
Barber shops to change hair styles, colour, and maybe even facial hair.
Wildlife have a random chance to be possessed by Calamity Ganon, increasing the stats and speed.
Some bosses break out of the dungeons and you have to fight them in the overworld.
>Dreams
Masks.
Some form of musical instrument.
Online functionality to play with friends.
Cutscenes are voice acted and it's not just the voice from the shieka slate.
New game +.
>>342875513
Do you just WANT MM 2?
>>342877652
Shiekah are in all timelines you dumbo.
Koroks are a specific form of the forest elves that developed after the flood.
>>342877776
No, they are not. They are extinct in the Adult Timeline and no longer exist.
>>342877147
>Real Link is reincarnated to activate the latest reset button
>Though just a fake symbol of hope, you give your life to stop him and flip off the gods
>>342877901
Guess whose back in the adult timeline nigga.
>>342877704
>Cutscenes are voice acted and it's not just the voice from the shieka slate.
Also on that note, I fucking HOPE the voice acting in this game isn't shit.
Like, for fuck's sakes Nintendo, get some decent VAs for this shit. Get some notable ones and if they're not huge, then get some new, qualified VAs that are comparable to the big names.
I don't want them to skip out on the voice acting. It'd be fucking embarrassing if this game, their big return to form for the Zelda series, had shit-tier voice acting. Like, come on. If Platinum can get actual voice actors for W101, then you get do the same for BotW.
>>342877901
How would you know? Maybe you just never run into them. I mean, you never actually enter the Kokiri Forest. The Lost Woods aren't the same thing.
>>342877276
I know the Wii U isn't popular but it's unironically my favourite console of the generation.
I bought my Wii U very late, but I am very prepared to buy an NX at launch. It has to be a really poor deal for me to reconsider.
The Wii U not only strengthened my faith in Nintendo, but also strengthened my faith in the Wii after I had essentially dropped the Wii due to all the awful shovelware.
The Wii really did get dozens of gems in the latter half of its lifespan and I missed almost all of them. But I have since played most of them on the Wii U, and I've also gotten almost every Wii U exclusive and loved those games too.
Not to mention the multiplats that are actually better on the Wii U thanks to the gamepad.
The Wii U may not have been a success. But it's a really solid console. If Zelda is in any way better on the NX I'll likely pick one up at launch and then just see what comes to the NX later. And unless the NX somehow ends up not even managing to match up to half of what the Wii U was, then I'll likely be happy with it.
>>342876705
Gardening and stable keeps are definitely logical extensions I could see happening, what with stuff like fruits, vegetables, and wild game already abundant in the overworld.
>>342877473
>OoT Temple of Time
>TP locales like the Bridge of Hylia
>SS Goddess statue instead the Temple of Time
>Master Sword shrine like ALTTP's
Nah, this shit is very wishy-washy.
the only important hope/dream is a Fist Ring. i want to beat the shit out of ganon using my fists
>>342878057
Nintendo actually got the VAs for W101. Platinum programmed the gameplay, Nintendo did everything else.
>>342878057
Zelda's voice actress is pretty lame.
>>342877994
Guess whose in the child timeline nigga.
Koroks and the Sheikah don't mean shit to where it fits in the timeline. We need concrete proof and right now the Temple of Time is our only proof. Hyrule Castle was built over it in the Adult Timeline, it no longer exists. It fell to ruin some time in between OoT and ALttP in Downfall and sometime in between MM and TP in Child.
>>342878057
Anon Aonuma already confirmed voice acting will be used sparingly, there's going to be very few voiced lines in the entire game, time to let go.
>>342878076
Because it's implied they were the Pirates of the Forsaken Fortress, who are no long around and are dead.
Also you do enter the Kokiri Forest, the Forbidden Woods is the Kokiri Forest.
>>342878276
I like it. But at the same time, who says it's Zelda? It could be Impa, speaking to you through the Sheika Slate to get you to Zelda to protect her, like the royal babysitter she is.
>>342878251
True, but I'd assume Platinum had at least some influence, since all of their games have quality voice acting and a Nintendo game actually having quality voice tracks is pretty damn rare.
>>342878276
She sounded so emotionless in the trailer. Hopefully they fix that shit in the final release.
>>342878351
Even if it's used sparingly, it could still have a lot of impact if it's done really well.That's how I'd want a Metroid game to be done as well.
>>342877559
Reminder that there is no evolution in Zelda.it doesn't even exist IRL, it's all a meme
The Zoras became the Rito were transformed by Valoo so that they wouldn't die in the Great Sea.
>>342878542
Why would Zoras die in water?
>>342878542
>it doesn't even exist IRL, it's all a meme
For fucks' sakes....
>>342878306
>Hyrule Castle was built over it in the Adult Timeline, it no longer exists
When was this ever demonstrated or proven?
>>342878276
I like her.
I found no real issue with her voice.
>>342878276
It's better than her moeblob Japanese variation, at least.
My only real concern with it is that it sounds too old and deep for Zelda.
>>342878542
There are sea water Zora as evident in the Downfall Timeline, it's likely they were transformed so they couldn't get to Hyrule.
>>342878626
Freshwater vs Seawater
>>342878542
>we have literally seen a species of iguana evolve to have live birth within our race's lifetime
>>342878728
Why did Zoras go feral and turn into monsters?
>She's a princess so she has to be British?
>>342878707
>My only real concern with it is that it sounds too old and deep for Zelda.
Oh fuck off you moefag.
That voice sounds just fine for something like OoT Zelda, TP Zelda, or even her SS version. I mean, if we're talking about voice types.
>>342878531
>t could still have a lot of impact if it's done really well.
Yeah, actually that was among his intentions, same with the overworld music Aonuma said a few bits of voice acting here and there for important scenes could strike well.
>>342878940Is that british?
>>342878542
what the fuck am i reading
>>342878626
Not enough food., as in no food.
>>342878884
Seems to be two evolutionary paths or factions.
There are good ones in...Oracle of Ages I believe? And good ones in ALBW as well. Likely some were corrupted by Ganon or took to magic/fireballs and trying to usurp the Triforce themselves. Hyrule does have a bloody history of greed and hatred.
>>342879030It sounded Scottish to me
>>342878884
Presumably, shit went really bad when Link failed.
>>342874114
Technically it's possible for them to record 2 versions of whatever lines mention the player, one where they say "Link," and one where they don't. But Nintendo's probably too cheap for that.
>>342878973
Not him, but it doesn't sound like I imagine TP Zelda to sound, the rest sure. TP Zelda, definitely not though.
>>342879148scottish is british
>>342879096
Wasn't there also the big zora in lttp that gives Link one of the medallions?
>>342874684
>First time you hear "Zelda" speak the old man is the only person nearby, sitting outside.
>The second time "she" speaks the old man flies down immediately after on a paraglider
old man has a falsetto, wake up sheeple
>>342879478
he give link the flippers
>>342877090
How do you mean?
>>342879478
Yep Queen...Oren? She was one of the Sages, which is an entirely different story all together.
>OoT Sages=1 Sheikah, 1 Gerudo, 1 Kokiri, 1 Goron, 1 Zora, 2 Hylians
>ALttP Sages=7 Hylians
>ALBW Sages=5 Hylians, 1 Zora, 1 Hylian/Goron Hybrid
>ALttP are descendants of OoT Sages
>ALBW is only like 2-3 generations at most from ALttP and are descendants of ALttP Sages
That means that at some point a new Gerudo male was born and didn't breed with the Gerudo and bred with Hylians who eventually diluted the Gerudo gene.
>>342875979
CRASHING THIS AIRSHIP
>>342877090
thats just the demo, which doesnt have anything in it other than a few shrines and goblins. its to demonstrate the game mechanics, thats all
>>342878663
I think because it's missing in Wind Waker, and you go under the castle under the Link statue to find the Master Sword in it's pedestal
>>342877090
It's a demo that consists of nothing but an open space with nothing special aside form a few mini dungeons.
And honestly. Should a demo really show anything more than that?
>>342878728
>it's likely they were transformed so they couldn't get to Hyrule.
I've seen this before, what do you mean and why?
>>342880792
Good shield.
>>342876705
>darkest game since MM
Fuck that would be great. I can just imagine the large world being home to a whole bunch of fucked up shit.
>>342880809
seals and shit
>>342880792
Those special effects look sharp as fuck.
>>342880614
doesn't really mean the temple of time was destroyed
Time to play the oracle games for the first time. Which one is considered to be better?
>>342881168
ages
>>342881168
neither one is better than the other. ages is more puzzly and seasons is more actiony. play them both and form your own opinion like a normal person
>>342878663
>Both have the same arched grating
>OoT ToT has it as well
>OoT ToT also has the same window on the outside of the Temple of Time looking inward as you enter
>All 3 contain the Triforce Symbol on the floor and the Master Sword (well with the exception of TP, it's still there just in ruins)
>Hyrule Castle was destroyed in the Adult Timeline and had to be rebuilt
>The road to Ganon's Tower in WW has the same tree you talked to the owl in OoT and a very similarly leading path up the hill/road
Pretty obvious, especially with the fact that the Tower of Gods works incredibly similarly to the Temple of Time in TP and the Tower of Gods/Hyrule Castle is virtually in the right spot to be near Death Mountain/Dragon Roost and Kokiri Forest/Forbidden Woods.
Video tour of the LoZ: Breath of the Wild demo theater at E3
Pretty freaking amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHuB1nArSYI
>>342881316
Oh a pic of that window and archway too.
>>342881307
I find Seasons far more annoying due to the 4 season switching constantly compared to Ages just two switches.
>>342880792
Jesus, this, the two handed weapons and the fire rod has me way too hyped.
it's going to be SO DISAPOINTING
>>342877147
is this Zero 3?
>>342877669
Please define deeper combat. Not being hostile but I legit don't know what people mean when they say this.
I want more magic
Let me be more magic link
>>342881951
Does fighting Wizzrobes in the forest as you shoot fire at each other and it burns down magically enough for you?
>>342882078
I need more
>>342877776
Koroks are just another form of the kokiri, its not dependent on a flood
>>342881826
i think they mean combat that isn't mash B until you win
>>342881951
The Fire Rod is looking to be a step in the right direction.
Speaking of class builds, I wonder if thief Link can be a thing as well, now that sneaking and stealth has been confirmed.
>>342882385
>class builds
oh no... it begins
>>342882483
>axefags
>>342877276
Only way I'll play Wii U is if I can use hacks to make it harder, like if hero mode is locked from the start
>>342881058
Well it does seem to imply that the basement of the Castle where you find the Master Sword in it's pedestal is what's left of the Temple of Time.
>>342882597
limit yourself to make it harder. play naked link with a stick and dont pick up anything
>>342882759
not sure it implies that either
mastersword doesn't have to be in any specific place
>>342882893
It has to correlate to a temple.
>>342882829
I've never liked doing that (or 3 heart runs), I want to explore and find treasures because I actually need them.
>>342882597
Some enemies are already taking off like 6-7 hearts a hit, how much more harder do you need it anon? The game doesn't need to be AoL levels.
>>342882893
Except it does. The Master Sword chooses who can pull it from the Pedestal it rests in, it has a will of it's own. In fact so far it's always been located in a Temple outside of a few instances.
>WW, ALttP, ALBW, OoA/S, FSA
Historia confirms that ALttP and ALBW that there used to be a Temple there, likely the Temple of Time. OoA/S and FSA are non-canon as you just get the Master Sword from upgrading the Noble Sword and Four Sword, both of which aren't the true Master Sword.
So that leaves WW as the only occurrence of it not being in the Temple of Time, barring obviously SS where it would later come to rest in the Sealed Temple/Temple of Time. Considering the general layout of the castle and the fact that if you look up, it has the same shape as the Temple of Time, it's safe to assume it was once the Temple of Time.
>>342883047
nah
>>342883391
no you dont
>>342882893
It doesn't have to be, but between the choices of a new pedestal to house the sword was built under the castle, or the castle was simply built over the top of the old pedestal, I just go with the latter.
I hope the final game has INVERTED CONTROLS for the camera!
>>342877276
I'll buy a physical Wii U copy so that way I'll be able to get most of my money back if I decide to sell it and get an NX.
>>342884025
Disgusting
>>342884025
i hope left and right are inverted but not up and down
>>342883404
>Some enemies are already taking off like 6-7 hearts a hit, how much more harder do you need it anon?
Only for attacks that are extremely easy to dodge. Regular attacks in the demo were only doing quarter hearts when wearing the regular hylian shirt/trousers. Besides I wanna wear sweet armor and look super fly.
>>342883556
yes I do nerd
>>342884212
Those are also all beginning enemies. Besides would you rather ever enemy be doing like 1 heart at most like recent Zeldas have been, even if it's extremely easy to dodge?
No, you wouldn't, in the off-chance you do get hit, you're either dead or barely living.
>>342884212
The blue bokoblins did alot of damage.
>>342869246
reminds me of that MM moontear fall thingy
>>342884907
As always.
>>342884624
It should at least be as difficult as The Legend of Zelda.
Anyone have screens of the ruined Castle Town gate and Market from OOT?
I've only seen good shots of them in one video, I figured there'd be more fan wankery over that than just the Temple of Time.
>>342885190
I mean, they're kind of there.
>>342884624
I just want more attacks to do more damage in general (at least in hero mode). Especially considering how generous the healing system is.
>>342873167
I hope it's not going to be nothing but ambient piano, at the very least.
>>342884907
I was gonna say, it looked like they did at least 3 full hearts per swing. Every time a journalist was fighting one I was waiting for them to die.
But any intelligent player will gather a few mushrooms and meats and boost their hearts up anyway. Though I prefer the threat of an instant death so early on.
>>342873719
I want the Hookshot to work like Batman's grapple gun and bat claw from the Arkham games.
>pull yourself up any mountain side, or at least get a good head start on the climb upward
>double tap the button to sling yourself up, which you can follow up with a paraglide ( you'd probably die otherwise )
>Can pull items in like classic hookshot
>Can grab enemies and pull them over ledges
>>342880792
>the light reflecting on the water and walls
>>342874289
>Ocarina explains the heroe's clothes to be adopted from the kokkiri
>Minish explains the heroe's cap to be Elzo
>Skyward explains the Heroe's Cap to be knight school uniform
>BoTW will probably explain the Heroe's clothes once again
>>342874485
Still holding out on him being Ganondorf.
But knowing Nintendo, it'll probably end up being the owl.But we won't actually learn that until an interview years later
>>342886268
Makes me wonder if they'll do puzzles based off of water and light reflections now.
>>342875513
>>npc interaction like what was intended for oot
What do you mean?
The NPC's with all the gossip and urban legend telling were my favorite thing about ocarina of time.
What were they going to do differently?
Let's talk some core gameplay mechanics.
Assuming the demo actually just fluffed bottles for gameplay purposes, and that you'll have to actually have available bottles in order to cook elixirs and stuff.
Would bottles being required be a positive or a negative?
>>342886268
>Not noticing the constant frame rate under all those reflections
>>342876705
>>fishing akin to TP and OoT's fishing, but anywhere and everywhere
Fishing was so pointless in TP. Breath of the Wild would be ideal to bring it back since you could actually eat the fish.
>>342877134
It at the very least has to be after Ocarina of Time with the ruined Temple of Time and Market Place.
>>342887570
what
>>342877276
I'll get NX most likely.
Don't know how good it's future library will be, but it'll probably have Smash Bros and a few other 1st party staples, and that's enough for me.
The only reason I could see myself getting the Wii U version is if they released it several months earlier than the NX version, and my impatience will get the better of me.
>>342887824
fishing was relaxing in TP, you could do it for hours and forget all of life's worries
>>342877669
>Zelda by Hayo Miyazaki
Isn't Zelda literally everything Miyazaki hates?
>Video game
>Good Vs. Evil
>Male protagonist
>>342887485
It would be too much of a pain if bottles are reqired to make elixirs, as the cooking is farily experimental,so you could unexpectedly make an one and not have a bottle for it. There's a limited number of food slots anyway, which would be enough of a limit.
I'm a bit worried about being able to stock a ridiculous number of food and cheese the game.
>>342888421
Speedrunners use that glitch but that guy fucked up
>>342886772
Me too. Only because it would be a neat story element for him to have separated from his cursed Ganon self and is now trying to help destroy it. It would also be cool if the Old Man had always been human Ganondorf
>>342884025
Is there a reason that wouldn't be an option? I can't play without inverted.
>>342878626
The Zoras didn't evolve, they were changed by the gods, because nobody was supposed to know about the existence of sunken Hyrule.
>hope: that this game never happens
>wishes: that its director dies in a horrible olane crash
>lore theorys: link is homosex
>>342889567
>>342889747
>cliff overlooking double mountain
Oh shit
>>342878940
Didn't you know? "Medieval" fantasy only has two dialects.
>>342888831
You could do that in past zelda games. Just go to a faoru fountain stock your bottles with faries and you're all set.
At least here you have to go out of your way to scavenge for food and I dont think a couple of mushrooms and a steak is gonna do it later. If you really want to challenge yourself you can just skip the starter enemies and venture to the great beyond where everything will one shot you. Eitherway this will probably be the hardest 3d zelda game, though zelda has never really been about difficulty.
>>342889169
DELETE THIS
>>342890073
Seriously why do you want to bum me out that much
>>342881469
Now I'm just convinced that this was meant to be the Temple of time in the game, but was changed to Hyrule Castle at the last minute, or at whatever point in the game that they decided to not have Link age, as was shown in the concept art.
>>342881469
I wish they'd stop using arches.
The Hylians seem like the kind of people to use more rigid architecture.
>>342889778
I am down for all of this.
I think this is going to be another TP in terms of reception honestly, it'll garner relevancy for the Zelda series again, but people are hyping it way too much to the point where they'll be severely disappointed.
Regardless, this game doesn't fee like Zelda to me, it feels soulless, like all other Zelda games since TP.
And Link is so effeminate they might as well give him gay options if they ever bring up that scrapped OoT romance concept after again.
People need to accept that we'll never get another revolutionary game-changer like the OoT, MM, ALtTP or the original LoZ ever again. We could've if nintendo attempted the open-world genre last gen, but not anymore. And we'll be lucky enough to get even great or good games with the current shit Zelda team composed of Aonuma, Fujibayashi and their neo-Nintendo mentalities.
>>342890426
Yep, look at the window above the arch in the Hyrule Castle of Time and the arch between the two itself, now look at OoT's Temple of Time.
Also Hyrule Castle has a very similar structure going up to the top of the ceiling that the ToT does as well.
>>342890580
Homies love their arches man.
Is this going to be like TPP where you play as Punished Link and the final boss will be real Link?
>>342891228
You'd like that wouldn't you upstart, to paint me as the villain and not the hero.
>>342891102
Not all the time, here look
>>342887570
What happened to that Webm
>>342891518
To be fair that's Gerudo, Twili/Sheikah, and Goron, not Hylian.
>tfw no ocarina remake built in the TP engine
>>342891646
yeah but they still had Hylian hands in the construction.
>all you nigtendo fags sperging over interactive fire
Farcry 2 did it 8 years ago
>>342891802
Fair, I guess the arches are just a product of the times mostly.
Since you posted TP Castle, I posted this last thread. Anybody have any idea what these are?
>>342888910
>it would be a neat story element for him to have separated from his cursed Ganon self and is now trying to help destroy it
More like try to get it back so he can be young and powerful again.
Not like Ganon's a stranger to being in two places at once.
>creates his alter ego aganihm and puppets him from inside the dark realm, breaking the seal on his own
Can someone post the webm of calamity ganon pls
>>342876608
Better than kokiri do outside of lost woods
>>342891814
Then why is it so hard to come by now?
>>342889567
Is that Spectacle rock?
Does that mean we can bomb it open and find the entrance to death?
>>342891968
They might have been in the game as a puzzle and removed later.
I think there's been a lot of that in the last three console Zelda's.
>>342891067
Well with a cynical attitude like that its hard not to.be disappointed? Also what makes it soulless? Are you saying the developers aren't putting any effort into the game?
>>342891067
>ohhh look at my post
faggit
>>342892087
I dunno, but if I keep hearing shit about how original and groundbreaking nintendo is for crap like this I'm going to kill you all
>>342891102
>warp pad in OOT is where you do the sliding triangle puzzle in TWW
oh shit
>>342892352
Hey whoa we got a badass over here guys
>>342863343
just finished watching castle in the sky for the first time in forever. what if its an over grown city in the sky that you can explore, even a dungeon? Everyones always comparing BotW to Mononoke, but lok at the inside of Laputa compared to the shrines and the guardians. And I also thought about the similarity in the arms of the robots and the guardians as well, long multijointed and tendril like.
>>342892131
Well based on Death Mountain's location, it would roughly match up with it, but who knows.
>>342892164
Possible, I was trying to see if there were more but the Throne/Boss Room obstructs whatever else is around it. They're pretty damn far away and to my knowledge you can't see them anywhere else in the game but those stairs right before the final boss.
Did a rather extensive rundown of TP last night in some of the threads, still can't figure out what those are or where they're supposed to be, since I have no map access in the Dungeon.
>>342892131
Nothing in that picture jumps out at me as being spectacle rock. In OOT, it was inside death mountain crater, so it wasn't even visible without being in the volcano.
>>342891802
Man the TP castle looked like ass.
Once concern I have for this game, is the story. At E3, they said you learn about the story by exploring the world. That great for your first playthrough, but once you know the story and go for another playthrough, what's the point of exploring, since you can just go straight to the final boss?
>>342892414
It's there in TP as well. Just outside the Guardians where you start the jumping puzzle.
Though WW's variation of it appears to be backwards from what I can. That arch is supposed to be on the other side opposite of the window above it.
Please announce the NX already
I want to see what the cartridge for this game looks like.
>>342892571
Too many of the textures are overused.
>>342891968
I look at them and I see Tingle.
>>342892664
>cartridge
So not only is nintendo stealing old ideas but they are going back to cartridges? Is there any end to their unoriginality?
>>342892083
That was a lie that the Deku Tree told them so they wouldn't meet up with humans and pedophiles.
Mido was moping at the Lon Lon Ranch party at the end of the game, remember?
>>342892736
I can see it, but why would there be 4 of them? I can take a look at it later tonight to see if I can find anything else about them and compile all the stuff I found earlier that was interesting somewhere so I can post it here without clogging the threads up.
But for now, onto WW.
>>342881469
>>342891102
Cool. Thanks anon.
Hope you don't mind if I pirate these finds of yours.
Unless you want to make a name and take credit when I popularize them.
>>342892786
There is no need to be upset
>>342892531
Doesn't Spectacle Rock change location from game to game? Pretty sure it was in Zora's Domain in TP.
>>342892352
Bringn it on bitch, ill fuck up your scrawny ass.
>>342892786
(You) upset me now! I love Nintendo and I will NOT stand for this kind of slandering anon!
Post more webms please.
Specifically the ganon one.
>>342892867
Feel free to do as you please. I was gonna compile everything interesting I found in TP anyways, to which I'm going to go through WW now to see if I can find anything.
>>342892352
I've never heard anybody claiming BOTW is doing anything that hasn't been done in video games before.
I just hear bitter folks butting in with "lol welcome to 2006 nintendon't"
>>342892993
Nope, it's been on/in Death Mountain every game so far.
>>342892993
You're thinking of the Mother and Child Isles.
Which is similar but not for certain the same thing. Although it could be that Spectacle Rock from Breath of the Wild BECOMES Mother and Child Isles.
Although, it's probably just an easter egg in Twilight Princess.
>>342892864
>I can see it, but why would there be 4 of them?
>Tingle
>Ankle
>Knuckle
>David Jr.
>>342892993
No, it was not in Zora's Domain. There are two tall rock spires visible when looking directly out from in front of the high entrance to the Goron's dungeon, assuming it is in the game at all. The games have no been especially consistent, but they are always in the mountains.
>>342892786
Cartridges are a good thing you know.
>>342893167
And then some of those posts are genuine, and the rest are people who get a kick out of seeing fans rush in on white horses to defend the game.
People gushing about this shit though are excited about these mechanics being in a 3D Zelda, not acting like Nintendo has done something never seen before.
>>342876705
You're gonna be in for some disappointment, anon
>>342887363
Dating and shit to where you can build up relationship with the npc
>>342877764
I think mm did a lot really good that I hope the build off on with the towns, schedules and npcs. As for happy mask salesman I really like him and want to see him again. Some mystical figure that transcends time and dimensions seemingly at will and holds possession of insanely powerful items like majoras mask. That said I also don't want to see him explained, just have a role like he did in mm or even oot.
>>342893494
First time I noticed the odd circles on those pillars sealing Ganon are the same as the ones all over the inside walls of the Sheikah Shrines
>>342889169
Fuck man now I'm sad.
>>342893036
>>342892864
This anon here, something interesting. WW's Hyrule Castle, and every instant of the Master Sword Location actually all face South, except for one, OoT. Meaning it's the map that needs to be tilted as it faces West.
>>342892439
I thought the same thing as soon as we saw all of the Sheikah-related tech from last week's E3 reveal, honestly.
I think it's safe to say Nintendo is turning towards many Ghibli films for influence; the guardians give me god warrior vibes as well.
Artificial entities created by who knows what, destroyed society in the past and in doing so, nature began to overtake everything in due time.
>>342893484
not for publishers or consumers. they're more expensive than discs. so you'll have to pay more.
>>342893895
I wonder if the reason the voice is telling Link to remember is because he had something to do with the sealing of him, because he's a Sheikah. Which is why hes got a Sheikah Slate and it says it looks familiar to him in the description when he gets it.
>>342893658
I know.
That's why there are two categories though. One with likely ideas and one with pipe dream ideas.
I'm glad to see the framerate isn't choppy at all, it's been a long running problem with the series and it looks like they're finally recognizing it as one.
>>342893721
>Dating and shit to where you can build up relationship with the npc
>I could have accepted Ruto's advances instead of watching her slip away
Pls give me another Zora qt that I can romance, Nintendo.
>>342891067
Neither LttP nor MM are revolutionary nor game-changers. They're very good games, but they're mostly just refined adventure games building on the previous titles. OoT changed the game for 3D games, LoZ revolutionized the adventure genre, but they're the only two to really claim that title.
Guys i think theres going to be a high teck iron boot that make traveling under water on foot possible is this a bad theory?
I can't believe Mrs. Breast of the Wild got a youtube channel. She's really mega milking for fifteen minutes of fame.
>>342873771
The age of dark isn't a reset, it's just another era. The age of darkness will be followed by something else.
>>342894318
dont mind paying more for good games
>>342892993
How does Spectacle Rock end up so far away from Death Mountain in BOTW?
>>342894318
Cartridges have no load times and an internal RAM, so you can get bigger drawcalls out without wait for a laser to search for the spot where that thing is.
What the hell would I care if it costs Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft $1000 to give me my $60 cartridge?
CD's are a cancer and always have been. In an ideal world, the N64 would have killed the PS1 and all disk-based media until the 64DD was out.
>>342896070
It costs you too, though.
And at the time of the N64, cartridges were legitimately inferior. Yes, they had no load times and graphics were a little better, but CDs were easier for third party developers to work with. That's why the N64 had so few third party games.
>>342894318
>you'll have to pay more.
For something that lasts longer.
>>342894690
Kichukuou Link
Redpill me into the possible placement of BotW into the Downfall timeline.
>Hopes
For it to be half as decent as what it looks
HD Malon lookalike milk jugs.
A absolutely fucking massive Deku Tree
Shadow of the Colussus style boss battles
>Dreams
For it to be as good as it looks
Twili to somehow be in
Proper towns that feel alive, like in OOT.
>lore
Fuck if I know, I struggle with keeping up with the lore already.
Hopefully it'll explain the Sheikah.
>>342896515
What is redpill?
The timeline will sync up with the downfall timeline if and only if Hyrule is given credibility beyond Ganondorf's rule. The Hero of Time is going to be a huge influence since Link's been asleep for 100 years, so ironically, it probably will be the downfall timeline.
>>342896297
Resident Evil 2 proved that was a lie though..But it came out in 2000 so had little swaying power by then.
>>342896297
Not that guy. But CDs were only "better" because cinematic experiences became a huge trend around the beginning of said generation.
Otherwise CDs were pretty darn bad. And I honestly don't think people even remember just how horrible the load times were on the PS1 what with the PS2/PS3+ and emulation nowadays and so on. But it was real bad. Even the difference between the PS1 and the PS2 is like night and day.
Actually the biggest reason the N64 lost was because Nintendo was a bunch of faggots back then who had really strict policies and guidelines that no one wanted to fucking deal with. The fact that N64 cartridges couldn't hold as much space as CDs was only the cherry on top.
I think they relaxed somewhat with the Gamecube, but by that point the damage was done. Coupled with the fact that the PS2 was a surefire seller due to being the cheapest DVD player on the market at the time and it was the obvious choice for most developers.
Nintendo learned their lesson a bit better with the Wii in terms of restricting third party developers, but waggle was another turn-off. Not everyone wanted to build a game around that.
>>342896720
What did you mean by all that you said? I'm sorry but I reallyd didn't get it. Explain in detail if possible.
>>342896515
Some fans are putting all their chips on the Koroks, and saying it has to be post-TWW.
Other fans think the NES games hold the secret because the world is the same as you can see >>342889567
Still other fans such as myself, think it takes place in a whole new timeline. Please note that I made this before Breath of the Wild's exhibition, so I had no idea about Calamity Ganon. What this means now is that if Demise from the past survived, then one became Ganondorf and one became Calamity Ganon.
>>342892786
With modern flash memory, cartridges could make a comeback
You'd have to ask a storage engineer tho
>>342897742
>Wanting two prequel games in a row
Doing my trek into WW and came across some interesting things. Mostly up for debate, some are likely just nothing at all, but interesting for discussion at least.
>>342898803
Link to the Past is a prequel to Legend of Zelda, and Ocarina of Time is a prequel to that.
>>342894793
Gonna need the channel's name there bucko
Hey guys What if it's post hyrule warriors where all the world got jumba fucked together
>>342899268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH4WT1otbGo
>>342899609
>hawt one in the link
>>342899491
>Hyrule Warriors
>canon
I do think Aonuma got some ideas from the game and that this is a new timeline that has resulted in the previous 3 converging in some way or another, though.
>>342899137
I meant like SS, where it's supposed to be an origin to the whole series.
>>342899030
>mfw Aonuma and co. have been planning this ancient ayy shit for years.
>the clues were always there, and they've been piling it up slowly with each and every installment
Now it looks like it's all starting to come together.
>>342877669
>I want this, I want that.
Shut the fuck up. The nice thing about Zelda games is getting surprised by things or getting gameplay experiences that are unique. You seem to just want the same shit over and over. FUCK OFF.
>>342877276
I'm getting the Wii U version day 1, digital. I'm sick of fucking discs.
>>342899883
A small part of me does kinda wanna see some sort of nod or acknowledgement of that game's existence tho.
Even if it's something minuscule like one NPC girl with her hair in a ponytail like Lana's, or bodacious bewbs like Cia's.
>>342900120
Possible, I'll definitely compile everything a bit better together, and that includes my TP ones I did last night for the threads. But for now to finish WW and it's mostly not gonna be much as most of WW is just rinky dink islands with jack all of them.
I did note that Jabun is no longer in the cave behind Outset Island, he just seems to disappear from the world for whatever reason. Guess he sunk back down to Hyrule.
>>342878156
This man gets it.
>>342900525
I really hope Cia gets to come back, hell they can cover her up for all I care (please don't though), I just really enjoyed her character and cocklust for Link, plus she was cute as hell with short hair.
You're also now aware that she let the Hero of Time fuck everything up because he was cute to her.
>>342900525
Please consider suicide.
I hope Zelda is young in this game like in SS.
TECHNOLOGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch_i9ovV2KI
>>342900757
But anon if I off myself how will I ever know if Cia's bombastic bozongas make it into BotW?
>>342886052
Oh fuck
I NEED IT
>>342901352
Even when you don't see her boobs, you should know that they are there, watching.
>>342881826
I don't want a complete overhaul but >>342882226 is basically right. I just want to actually need to use sword techniques, I want to be able to approach any situation in however I want to, I want good enemy design, good AI, and so on.
>>342888781
You can't always please your heroes, anon. ;_;
>>342900189
I'm legit not quite sure why you singled out my post there, out of any of the others that were similar.
>>342877660
I love you.
>you first encounter Zelda, while she's naked and drenched in liquid, inside of a pod of a stasis chamber similar to the pod of Link's resurrection chamber.
>>342902181
More like res-erection chamber
What are the odds that BotW Link wakes up and eventually meets his grandchildren?
>>342902343
>he meets his grandkids
>they're redheads and farmers
>>342897742
I have no idea what you're talking about lorebro64
>>342863117
The voice in the trailer is Zelda, you can hear Zelda's lullaby very slowed down, meaning Zelda is still alive agree the calamity
>>342902847
I read that as redeads and became worried.
>>342863117
I don't know where I'm going.
But I sure know where I've been.
>>342903032
well they did rape oot link multiple times
Can I beat this game with no armor, a bow and a club?
>>342902343
So Link is their GRAND DAD?
>>342903015
Hopefully she'll be Queen Zelda in this one. And hopefully she'll be a MILF.
I would love to be playing this game, and recognizing places seen in the other games. I don't mean simply recognizing the various domains, I mean I want to see something familiar. For example, say Link wanders through a tunnel, and in front of him in the next clearing is clearly an old overgrown Kokiri Village.
>>342903408
Yes, no, and no. Shitty weapons break.
>>342903408
It should be possible according to the developers.
>>342903543
We don't know how the endgame will be, it might be possible.
>>342903642
We know enough. It'll be filled with strong monsters you won't be able to kill without breaking your bow and your club in the process. Maybe there's some mighty club out there, but I doubt it.
>>342903408
I doubt it. Even though it will probably be possible to find Ganon without preparing yourself, I fully expect him to be immune to anything but the Master Sword.
>>342903321
I need this so much
I need to be able to have a place like that to stop by and be fed and sleep, to skip a night and get healed.
I need them to tell me rumors they heard in town so I have a way to adventure.
>>342875091
>>342863343
IT'S
SKYLOFT
>>342903820
This.
They said you can reach him straight away, not kill him.
>Ganon can only be killed by weapons with stats for magic.
>Master Sword is defunct.
>Game has weapons customization features.
>Can build magic stat on any weapons.
>Build your own new Master Sword/Bow/Club/Staff/Stick/Whatever.
>>342903808
We know 1%, plus, there's always some crazy fuck out there who figures out some way to do it.
>>342904010
Maybe?
Skyloft was static, was it not?
>>342904275
It means it's crashing slowly
>>342904713
No. :(
>>342904010
This is how you kill Ganon. You drop the island on him.
>>342904865
The Planet of Hyrule shall fall, all to calamity
>>342904010
No it fucking isn't. Look t it.
>>342904713
I don't buy it.
Sell me, elevator pitch, go.
>>342904010
If it is Skyloft, it doesn't seem to have its waterfall island above it anymore. Maybe it's there, but too hard to see, but maybe it's just gone.
>>342878884
I think the evil Zoras are just the ones under Ganon's control. ALBW has friendly versions of those green monster-like Zoras, so that means they're not all like that, and their change in appearance has nothing to do with whether they're evil or not.
>>342899932
Thanks to that non canon manga in Hyrule
Historia, all the skyward sword fags have been begging for another prequel with caped Link and the war between Hylia and Demise.
>The Distant Nebula is spoken of in the game's prologue and within the Book of Mudora. It is stated that according to ancient Hylian scrolls, the Distant Nebula was once home to the three Golden Goddesses. One day, however, they left the Distant Nebula and descended upon chaos, creating the land of Hyrule and its surrounding realms.
>Although never referred to as a "nebula", the Great Deku Tree speaks of the heavens from which the Golden Goddesses descended when he is telling Link about the Triforce.
>Lanayru tells Link that the Golden Goddesses left the world and returned to their home after finishing their work in Hyrule.
Are you ready for Ancient Aliens and Sheikan Reptilian Illuminati?
>>342878884
In TP. they seemed to wear battle masks. Might be a retcon that the monster ones were actually normals in a mask. Can't be sure unless a 2D references the idea.
>>342905094
It's almost to the ground now.
>>342905195
It's bound to happen eventually honestly.
>>342905342
You failed. Get outta my lift.
>>342902902
Fine. let me re-explain a little better.
The final battle in Skyward Sword takes place only a few years AFTER Demise was just defeated by Hylia.
Then Link, Zelda, and Groose return to the future. But in the future, they had already wished on the Triforce, and Sky Keep had already fallen and killed him. Fi and Ghirahim both confirm this.
What I'm saying though, is that Demise from the past, who could not be completed destroyed by the Master Sword lived on in that timeline, because Link leaves in the pedestal for Impa to guard and reunite the timelines.
That means Skyloft never had to exist for more than a short time, which means there's a whole timeline with a different procession of events we have yet to see, up until they re-converge at the ending of Skyward Sword where they return and Impa dissipates into blue light forever; leaving behind the bracelet Zelda gave her.
But what if, now follow me here, they didn't reconverge. What if Impa split into two and was just returning to the timeline she remained in? The Breath of the Wild timeline.
Make sense?
>>342905342
No it's really not. The Zelda games drop all sorts of plot points in their game that they never reference again. We're not getting a game where you fail to stop Ganon and flood the world, we're not getting a game about the time when Link was asleep for seven years, we're not getting a game about a sorcerer putting Zelda to sleep by a greedy prince's command. Just because OoT did a very liberal interpretation of the Imprisoning War does not mean that every mildly interesting even that the games (or a manga not actually part of the games) mention will have a new game about them.
Any predictions for 100% rewards?
>Master Weapon: Max damage, Infinite durability, can change into any weapon
>A special dungeon opens up that is a 1:1 recreation of Dungeon 1 from Zelda 1 (Remixed or exact music included)
>Can play Zelda 1 from the main menu
>>342905554
No, not at all.
>>342902181
>implying she hasn't willingly sacrificed her mortal human form to become a super AI so that she could combat virus-Ganon some hundred years ago
>>342905554
Given the tech in SS, I would love to see a prequel that was full on sci-fi. Something unexpected, like Hylia was just a computer AI that ran all the tech in the city.
>>342904240
Maybe they're going back to the old ways.
Any weapon can damage Ganon.
But only the Silver Arrows can kill Ganon.
>>342905883
Could be, but that was before Nintendo invented the Master Sword. Now that it exists, they may feel compelled to use it.
>>342905715
>100% rewards
I doubt there'll be any.
NG+?
>game looks like absolute shit
D R O P P E D
>>342903408
To reach Ganon? Maybe, though you will definitely have to use and upgrade your Sheikah slate to an extent.
To beat the entire game's story mode? Doubtful.
>>342906076
>someone on /v/ hates it
B O U G H T
>>342905715 100% rewards
A picture of the Triforce next to your save game.
>>342905225
Yup.
I've been waiting for it all these years.
I can't believe it's finally happening. Or well, that it might be happening.
>>342874114
Open your eyes...
Wake up, JERRY.
>>342905738
Did you play Skyward Sword?
Ghirahim went back in time which created an alternate reality.
Link put back the Master Sword where it belonged because it controls time, or because Zelda does and she has no reason to go back to sleep now (take your pick). Meanwhile, Zelda gave Impa a bracelet.
When they show up again, Impa is still wearing the bracelet and the Master Sword has been sleeping for thousands of years and has shrubbery starting to grow around it.
How can this happen without one of the universes being erased from history? This is how Demise survived. Because he wasn't killed in one.
Get it, now?
>>342905715
>Any predictions for 100% rewards?
A sparkling save file.
Nintendo doesn't really do completionist rewards... Especially EAD. The only one that even comes to mind is the super triple jump and 99 lives from Yoshi in Super Mario 64.
>>342906336
Or she could just say, you know, something generic like "hero" while the voice acting's being implemented and all.
>>342905991
The first game yeah, but A Link to the Past had the Master Sword and you still had to finish Ganon with the silver arrow.
>>342906475
Wake up, ANON.
>>342905878
Have you seen the Flash?
It would be cool if they pull off a twist like Gideon in that show.Wait, why will you always follow any commands I give you?Because, you created me.
>>342904713
How many projected survivors?
>>342906368
Ghirahim went back to revive Demise, which gave Demise a chance to cast his curse that he would return. His return was the emergence of The Imprisoned that Link had to keep thwarting in the future.
When future Zelda goes back to the past, there is a still a sleeping Zelda in the back room.
No new timeline, but instead a clean time loop.
>>342906368
This timeline talk needs to stop. The timeline isn't set by just 3 split timelines.
Majora's Mask, SS, OoX, AoL and the entire concept behind the downfall timeline are direct proof that the Legend of Zelda is more or less a multi-verse. There are split timelines everywhere, we just happen to know 3 of them.
There could be a separate "what if this Link died" split timeline for every single Zelda game in the series, for example.
>>342906763
No survivors.
The Skyloft rises, sister.
>>342906763
Probably long since abandoned.
>>342906368
Neither the Master Sword nor Zelda are ever implied to control time in Skyward Sword, and nothing in Skyward Sword ever says that Ghirahim going back in time causes an alternate reality to sprout.
>>342906847
>His return was the emergence of The Imprisoned that Link had to keep thwarting in the future.
WRONG.
The Imprisoned was the rsult of Demise trying to reform himself via the weakening seal of Hylia. That's the backdrop of the game's story.
>When future Zelda goes back to the past, there is a still a sleeping Zelda in the back room.
No, there isn't. Link puts the Master Sword back right there at the end. There is only ever one Zelda at any given time in the game.
>>342906878
I didn't understand anything you just said. Please rephrase.
>>342906878
fucking this, I don't get how people can get so mad when you suggest this.
>>342907014
They didn't have to say it. You're missing the big picture.
Why do you believe that young Impa didn't go back with them to the future? She had to remain to protect the Master Sword. Why? Because Demise's remains were still in it.
But wait, didn't the Triforce destroy Demise? Therein lies the paradox, unless there's another timeline that converges or splinters from the main SS timeline.
>>342907250
>There is only ever one Zelda at any given time in the game.
That's not true at all, you can barely see her sleeping form right behind the door throughout damn near the entire game.
>>Why do you believe that young Impa didn't go back with them to the future? She had to remain to protect the Master Sword.
She was there to protect Zelda, not the sword. That was the whole point of the scene, her dedication to Zelda.
>>342907250
The second you don't have a clean time loop, you have a split. They are the only options that exist.
>>342906878
>>342907640
Oh I see now.
The reason it's stupid is because in those games the time-travel is competent.
Basically all you two are saying is: "Time is too complicated for me. I can't fathom how people get angry when I say that ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN is a legit excuse when it comes to time-travel."
Did you never watch Back to the Future? The only way you could possibly accept such a lame and nonsensical take on time-travel is if you don't care anyway. In which case, why are you butting into a convo with people who do?
>>342907716
>Why do you believe that young Impa didn't go back with them to the future? She had to remain to protect the Master Sword. Why? Because Demise's remains were still in it.
>But wait, didn't the Triforce destroy Demise?
No, it wouldn't do that for eons until Link's wish came true. That was the whole point of Ghirahim retreating into the past to resurrect his master, and why Impa also protects the Time Gate. The Time Gate never creates an alternate reality, every time is a clean loop. Unless you really think that by planting a seed, Link also created an alternate timeline that must be explored.
>>342874485
Guys, what if the music is just a red herring like most of the games have been?
To tease everyone that go into theory digging?
>inb4 someone draws me as a nintendo worker behind this message
>>342907250
>I didn't understand anything you just said. Please rephrase.
There are split timelines everywhere. The ones we see in Hyrule Historia are just the ones that we know of so far. In reality, the splits are unending - aka a 'multiverse.' Think Rick and Morty if you've ever seen that show.
>>342908392
That would be fairly elaborate for very little reward.
So apparently ALttP's Hyrule can fit west of LoZ/AoL's, anybody have any reference material for this?
Never heard of it before.
>>342908842
and what reward would that be?
I think they will pull something like this:
Link goes back after OOT, sees zelda (credits roll)
then goes to termina, does his thing
eventually finds his way back to hyrule where a dark power has awakened
he gets bonked on the head by impa and wakes up 100 years in the future
>>342908181
Except the splits aren't just bound by time or created from the effects of warping it.
There is literally a separate timeline created from OoT Link just happening to die to Ganon. No timey-wimey shenanigan shit happening there.
Whose to say that the same can't happen in any other game? What's seperating OoT Link from being a special case in this regard? Because we know nothing so far.
>>342909051
TP is 100 years after MM, at least the last comment I remember Aonuma saying over it back when the game was coming out.
>>342909019
Tricking some nerds on the Internet into an incorrect theory. I don't think Nintendo's going to stuff a demo with content they don't actually plan to use just so someone on a fansite gets the wrong timeline placement. They really don't care about that.
>>342909051
Except he doesn't look or sound anything like OoT Link.
But if this game does take place in the timeline, between OoT and ALTTP, then I'm expected some lore or talk about him either way. Hell, maybe they pull a Hero's Shade and he returns as a ghost again for this round.
>>342909051
No, because the whole point of the hero's shade was that Link led a generally uneventful life, but had longing regret over not being remembered as a hero or passing down his skills.
If he fought Calamity Ganon, he'd be remembered.
>>342909051
You forgot to put Lorebro in your name.
>>342907819
>That's not true at all, you can barely see her sleeping form right behind the door
Yeah, I meant outside of the Temple of Hylia. That's just an Easter Egg anyways. Like the fact you can see the bracelet on her, and that old Impa and young Impa never meet, even though young Impa knows about herself. And the way that the tree you plant inside the temple was always there to Groose even though it wasn't.
Sealed Temple is a ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey goop.
>dedication to Zelda
She specifically tells you she is staying to guard the Master Sword, not Zelda. You are getting this confused with the Easter Egg of her protecting Zelda behind the door for the first half of the game.
>>342908141
I know? Where are you getting otherwise?
>>342908229
Time Gate is real time-travel. Unlike time-shift stones which are just pocket field in spatial-time, or something according to Fi. So A. There is a loop. But B. Those thousands of years in between still happened. Any of which could be the center of a new Zelda game. In fact, you only see that the Sealed Temple remains standing in the main SS universe. Anything could have happened in the past. Keep in mind that without Demise, the populace would have moved back down and begun civilization again. Impa says "countless eons" passed between the past and present in SS. And like I said, we only know what happened to the original granny Impa. The young Impa from the end of Skyward Sword might not even be her now that you mention it (did her mind get rewritten? Or did she aggregate her young self's newly gained knowledge to what she already lived?)
The only thing that pins the two timelines together definitely is the Master Sword. It is the only reason a loop has to exist.
>>342908469
See above.
>>342894318
Cause you know the price it's gonna be smartass
>>342889567
not going to lie, that mountain ridge looks like a unsettlingly large jawbone.
Why is Hyrule Castle covered in Sheikah technology lines?
>>342909734
Okay, but this still doesn't explain why a hero's random death could result in a canonized split.
Not to mention that the Master Sword isn't the only thing that fucks with time on a grander scale. The Ocarina of Time does it, the Gate of Time does it, hell, it's even noted in the backstory of SS that Demise manipulated time for the hell of it, ergo Hylia having to sacrifice her immortality in the first place.
>>342909135
Because it's not canon. No game supports a fork timeline and we still have no idea who even came up with that. There's also a disclaimer on the last page that says "story subject to changes." A game's story doesn't just """""change"""""" from one day to the next. Neither does OoT's.
It's like saying the RE7 with the magic moving mannequins is demo is canon to Shinji Mikami Resident Evil about zombies. You can say it all you like, it doesn't make it true. And when you dig deep enough, you realize that series ended with RE4.
>>342909051
Good theory anon. I approve.
Why do the resurrection towers, which rose out of the ground to earthquakes and frightened EVERYTHING, have a flabby pulsating center, squishy sound effects when you walk on them, and H.R. Geiger architecture?
Why?
What the fuck, Sheikah? Impa, did you approve this? Is this what you did with all the leftover skin from the Shadow Temple?
>>342910239
>hell, it's even noted in the backstory of SS that Demise manipulated time for the hell of it, ergo Hylia having to sacrifice her immortality in the first place.
Extrapolating that Demise's wound on Hylia has something to do with his ability to conquer time itself is a giant reach.
One I don't disagree with. You get an APPROVAL! too. But I don't think it says that anywhere in the story.
Post more cute link in the next thread please
>>342910481
The Sheikah have some weird fetishes
Do you think you ever get paraglider and boots(jump power) upgrades in the game?
>>342911978
I think so
Personally, I just want a lot of fluid movement options.
>>342875513
>Dark Link is the online element
>works like invaders from dark souls or old monk boss from demon souls
>>342909192
>they
That would imply they don't care enough, I mean they "had" to make Hyrule Historia, why not some fake shit too.
Guys I'm getting a little tipsy and I just had a crazy idea.
Okay, what if
what if
okay stay with me here despite how ludicrous this is gonna sound
What if BotW is the last game on one of the timelines and it represents the next stage of evolution for the three triforce wielders and the cycle at large?
All of the games that we've played take place in the "mortal stage" where the three of them had to give give away their divinity in some way or form to prolong the cycle.
>Hylia reincarnates into Zelda, abandoning her divinity in an effort to stop demise
>Demise reincarnates his hatred into Ganon(dorf,) abandoning his divinity in an effort to haunt Zelda and Link
>Link is debatable, but give or take all of the "hero's spirit" and "Hylia's chosen hero" talk, it wouldn't surprise me if he was a divine being in his past life as well
But what if BoTW is entering a new cycle, where the 3 wielders aren't even that anymore?
Aonuma confirmed that the guardians were hostile because they were corrupted by some evil force - most likely Calamity Ganon, whose now some giant formless, Giygas-like virus entity.
Then we have all of these crazy theories about Link being a clone or a robot on account of his introduction.
We don't know what Zelda's deal is.
Here's a crazy idea - what if all 3 of them actually died 100 years ago and someone out there is prolonging the cycle by making AI "copies" of the three? What if the three of them are just sentient AI now? It fits well with the tech theme.
It would also explain why the introduction feels so fucking cold. Link has no friends or family, just wakes up with Zelda telling him to go fight off the Calamity Ganon who is now conveniently trapped in Hyrule castle. Awakening these resurrection towers and complete these shrines that have been made specifically for him.
It feels like someone out there figured out the cycle, and that they don't even happen naturally anymore. It's almost as if it's all... manufactured now, in a way.
>>342912659
Shut up
>>342912659
sounds neat
>>342912659
That's like that story to a movie I saw.
>>342863117
I get a hardon every time I see that title iconography, it's so good.
>>342875513
Hopes
>dual swords weapon type
>happy mask salesman
>lots of neat cloaks
>masks
>a spooky shadow dungeon
>hookshot
>roc's cape
>hiding your identity in towns like in LttP
>a sense of fun and levity to offset the obviously dark undertones
>overtly dark undertones
Dreams
>sword beams
>big, screen width spin slash like in twilight princess
>a final boss that's just legitimately difficult, akin to thunder bird, shadow link, LttP ganon
>a lot of neat technology underground
>computer triforce
>robot link
>robot link because the last link fucked everything up
>another dungeon inside a living thing, or at least made out of living material
>final boss' first forms are giant super bosses the size of a village and it all ends with a dope as fuck sword fight
>combining all the Hyrule Maps into one
Hyrule might be the most fucked up place geographically ever.
>>342914016
> but 'time is convoluted in hyrule' Dark Souls meme
>>342914016
>>342914169
>people still think anything is in the "right place" in BOTW
>>342914169
Nah, I'm actually done with it, drew it myself, literally over-layed everything, connected things based on general distance and size, connected all the lakes, etc.
Hyrule is legit massively fucked up, I'll post it in a sec, I'm touching it up right now.
>>342869375
I hated watching this fucking video. I know it's probably their first time playing but this person is so fucking bad.
>>342914602
No offense, but Hyrule's geography has always been massively fucked up because Nintendo doesn't care about consistency in this regard. And if you actually believe that Nintendo's consistent with the geography in their games, then you need to calm down on the autism.
Nintendo never gives a shit about Zelda geography, with the exception of environments being found in the same general cardinal direction (death mountain is always northeast, the desert is always west, the forests are somewhere south, etc.)
>>342871025
I love that Link can just go flying.
>>342871025
What exactly is the difference between the square bombs and the round bombs anyway?
I'm guessing the round ones detonate automatically while the square ones can be detonated manually? Seems kind of pointless to split one item into two for that reason alone, regardless.
>>342915170
Not only this, the whole idea of Zelda "lore" is retarded too. They make a new story and world each game.
>>342915170
Oh I'm aware, I was just curious how fucked up it actually was. I definitely don't believe they're consistent with it in any way. They're a little more consistent between the 3D games sure, and the 2D games are relatively consistent, but together, pfft.
Pic related, every Hyrule combined in some way shape or form. You can see just how fucking stupid it gets. Granted I took a little bit of liberty with how things should logically connect and disconnect, but good lord, the rivers alone fuck up everything on such a level that it's just stupid.
Speaking of the desert always being west, if you actually line up the Temple of Time's entrance properly, it's also north, granted we don't see all the desert in OoT for instance, one thing not blocked off by mountains.
>>342915636
Care to explain what's what?
>>342915593
they're both remote bombs, dunno where this "only square bombs are remote bombs" meme came from. you can hit L to detonate either type
you use round bombs if you wanna roll them down a hill or square bombs if you want them to sit still. depends on the application really
>>342915636
>It actually looks like everything north of the US/Canada border.
Hyrule=future earth confirmed.
>>342915629
The timeline is retarded at times, but it's undeniable that some games are directly connected to others, such as WW being a distant sequel to OoT, TP being a distant sequel to OoT, and OoT being a prequel to ALTTP and so on.
>>342915739
I wish I could anon, I really wish I could.
The east is basically LoZ/AoL. The center is basically the majority of the 2D games and their rivers connecting with OoT's Zora River and stuff. The north is Lanayru Desert, connecting all the way to the west with Gerudo Desert in OoT, the bottom left is Lake Hylia in OoT.
Honestly it could be far far worse had I bothered to include the entire ocean around FSA.
It's just so dumb that it's ridiculous. I'm sure you can overlay maps on it to find how things have changed. I could include a little dot on where the Temple of Time is, since that's typically where the Master Sword is, even in ALttP/ALBW (Historia said the Lost Woods was once a Temple now in ruins).
>>342916065
Well of course it's dumb, you're copy-pasted dated geography from dated games that are likely going to have fucked up rivers like that, it's to be expected.
>>342916227
That was the point actually, I wanted to combine every Hyrule, I was curious just how dumb it could be.
It's not meant to be taken seriously. Just a neat little "Look at nothing matches up whatsoever" or "Look at how drastically geography changes over the games". It's nothing more than that anon.
>>342912659
That's retarded, And queer.
>>342912659
Man, I'm never going to stop hating the shitty origin given to the triforce wielders in Skyward Sword.
Since we're on Hyrule, is this all we have.
>Light World Countries
Hyrule, Gerudo, Ordona, Holodrum/Subrosia, Labrynna, Calatia, Hytopia, First, Second, and Third Continent, Skylands, New Hyrule.
>Alternate Realms/Dreams
Sacred Realm/Dark World, Twilight Realm
>Parallel Lands
Termina, Lorule, Koholint Island, Wayaway, World of the Ocean King
>>342875513
Hopes
>many different cloaks
>hover boots that offer limited flight
>rupee sinks
>a portable cooking pot or a cooking stick of some sort
>a fucking bow staff
>a super dense forest that is huge and easy to get lost as fuck in
>cool sword fights
>dynamic quests to escort people or shit, nothing big but something to keep the world interesting even after you beat the game
>a tent you can set up to sleep in without getting attacked
>weapon augmentations a la fable
Dreams
>facial hair option
>amazing mini games that differ from town to town
>seasonal changes
>npcs in towns react to weather
>dual wield swords
>>342889169
>>342878156
>But it's a really solid console
idortwise, wii u is a terrible console that barely justifies it's existence
the problem is other consoles are so much worse than that it's not even funny
>>342917841
>idortwise, wii u is a terrible console
That's the opposite of what it is.
If your computer is shit and you've got no other console, then the Wii U really wouldn't be so hot.
But if you've got a great gaming PC then the Wii U is the one machine that expands your range of new games the most.
The game can't be set in a previously visited land, it's just too big and different from all previous maps.
If it's a prequel it doesn't makes sense, if it's a sequel it also doesn't make sense.
Koroks are from WW, ToT has OoT design, Ganon is a new version, tech being so advanced more than any other game, sheikahs are almost gone, there's too much shit on this game that can't be explained.
My bets are that this game is an alternate version of a previous zelda, or it's placed on another timeline, or its in another universe
>>342918295
>yfw it'sHolodrum
The evidence for the ruins being the remains of OoT's Castle town is really starting to pile up...
>>342915629
I would actually buy that if it weren't for all the games in the adult timeline actually doing a good job of connecting to the games that came beforehand ( unlike every other game that's not a direct sequel ).
>>342918965
At this point from everything we've seen I don't see how people can deny this is set between OoT/ALttP and we're the failed Hero of Time.
Only other explanation would be between MM/TP, that would still match up just fine.
Either way it seems BotW is 100 years after OoT and we're the Hero of Time.
>>342918965
>>342919369
>>342919228
>people still trying to ignore the starting clothing
>the koroks
>the sea salts
>fucking bokoblins
>>342919369
I still don't think we're playing as the real Hero of Time though. He looks and sounds nothing like him. Plus, the right-handedness when the Hero of Time was left-handed.
This Link might be an altered clone or something, but it isn't THE real deal.
>>342918295
>it can't be this because that
Nintendo don't care.
Nintendo will throw logic out the door when designing the next world map.
It's basically a second Mario series to them. People just don't want to think of it like that since it's not cartoony.
>>342919570
>bokoblins
>being proof of anything when they're in the child timeline as well
This is either a post OoT game that fits in either the downfall or adult timelines - or this is Hyrule suffering from a timeline convergence catastrophe that might've happened ages ago (hence the koroks and sea salts.)
There's no other explanation for all of this.
>>342919810
>logic
>zelda
>logic
>fantasy with tech
>>342919228
I've got more for you actually. Castle Town/Castle aren't the only things that match up.
>>342919908
There are always other explanations
In a few more months.
>>342919570
Bokoblins exist in other timelines and sea salt means jack shit, we've seen seas in the other timelines as well, could have easily blown around.
As for the Koroks, depends on how the Kokiri Forest is, considering the rough layout of the Temple of Time and where Kokiri Forest would be, there is a large wasteland and lake right near it with a huge chasm, they'd need to be Koroks to fly.
>>342919625
Well the Seiyuu is likely busy honestly, and as for the right handedness, most of the Links are ambidextrous, they use certain items with their right hand when they're supposedly left-handed.
And people change with time, look at how much he changed to become the Hero's Shade for instance.
It's definitely possible.
>>342906763
You don't get to bring friends
>>342919570
1. It's not the starting clothing. You get it later. And I don't remember Wind Waker Link wearing Gerudo Gauntlets, which are confirmed to come with the blue top.
2. We've been over the Koroks, they don't have to be exclusive to the great sea timeline.
3. There's more than one sea
4. Bokoblins were invented in Wind Waker, but they've been a staple in the series since. They were found in the other Timeline in Twilight Princess, and at the beginning of the timeline in Skyward Sword. Bokoblins mean about as much as Moblins do.
>>342920150
Huge chunks of sea salt with specific "ANCIENT SEA" doesn't just blow around anon.
>>342920150
That doesn't explain why this new Link doesn't look like the Hero of Time.
On the other hand, when watching footage and hearing some of Link's voice clips, he does sound somewhat similar in tone, but the pitch is totally off.
>>342919570
Didn't the kokiri change to koroks because they no longer had the forest to protect them and koroks are better at living away from said protection? If that is the case the sea is not the only way they lose the protection of the woods
So all you can pick is your shirt, pants, and a hat for armor? I wish boots and gloves were separate.
>>342919625
Not that I think we are playing as the Hero of Time or anything, but that's not a very sound argument, considering Nintendo is no stranger to redesigning Link.
>ALTTP Link and Oracles Link are the same
>ALBW Link and TH Link are the same
>ALTTP Link made way more animu in the GBA remake
>NES Link being bishonen adult in HW
>>342920365
Lanaryu Desert used to be an ancient sea. Also yes it does actually, the wind can carry sea salt quite a good way, even on Earth, and as evident by FSA, Hyrule is a huge continent on the sea, also backed by ALttP Link traveling on the sea in the LA intro, and the fact that Zelda/Impa travel from Hyrule to Labrynna and Holodrum as well, and Labrynna being east of Holodrum to the linked pirate ship crashing in the east.
Sea salt doesn't mean much honestly. Besides if it was in the adult timeline, the world would look like Thousand Needles from Warcraft, you'd have huge mountains rising to the sky everywhere to form the old Islands.
>>342920367
Stylistic change probably, likely to fit more in line with SS's depiction of the Hero, or maybe his hair has just changed the way it parted with age, mines done the same thing as I've gotten older.
>>342920363
I am talking about the starting clothing, you know, that they SPECIFICALLY SHOWED OFF WITH INTIMATE DETAILS ON THEIR AGE TOO.
You can't be over Koroks, there are still more to find out in this game then just what they showed in the demo.
Like I said, Ancient Sea.
Then what happened to moblins? Too generic of a name or mob these days?
>>342920517
There are multiple forests in the game guranteed, so there are another reason for the Koroks to even be in the game.
>>342920669
Go look in the videos again and notice how there are multiple climate areas that shouldn't be near each other but are, why is that?
>>342920601
To be fair on NES Link, I think that's supposed to be his AoL look, he is like 16-17 in those games, and it does fit with the art, or at least damn close to it.
>>342920825
>Go look in the videos again and notice how there are multiple climate areas that shouldn't be near each other but are, why is that?
Because Hyrule. Hyrule never made sense.
>You can catapult link though the air
YOU CAN FUCKING WILE E COYOTE YOUR ASS INTO THE FUCKING AIR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch_i9ovV2KI
I'm sold.
am I the only one that thinks he looks like the hero of time here, albeit with longer/less kept hair (which if asleep for 100 years would be reasonable)
Personally, I hope it is hero of time, and it turns out that he was defeated as a kid when ganon was chasing the princess. Ganon was peeved, misjudged his energy blast strength and put him out or after link opened the door of time ganon fucked his shit up there. Both make more sense than him losing to ganon at any other time
>>342920941
So then tell me which timelines this game is supposedly set in, or maybe this isn't set in any of them hmm?
>>342919101
>Literally two non-direct-sequel games
I'm not saying they never have any interest to it, but it's pretty much a secondary point and usually thrown in.
>>342919908
This is either going to be third timeline split taking place prior to windwaker, in which "Era without a Hero" is subverted and ganondorf is either resealed or killed, or post windwaker when Hyrule was unsealed following the defeat of Ganon and his energy/spirit was released and haunted the castle as the flood waters receded.
It doesn't fit in the "ganon prevails" timeline as it wouldn't explain "Spirit Ganon" unless it was post LttP as the only time he goes that route is after being killed, up until the sealing war he would have had a physical form.
This game either takes place in a similar plotpoint of Zelda 2 where the revival of Ganon is prevented pre WindWaker creating another split, or take place (more likely after) he was revived and killed once more in Windwaker, releasing him from physical form pending reincarnation as the flood dissipated (causing all the koroks/ rusted master sword/ seasalts/ etc.
>>342910481
Did I miss a meme or something? I see absolutely nothing geiger-esque about these pillars.
>>342921109
He could be a middle ground between OoT young Link (10) and OoT adult Link (17) and he's somewhere around 13-15 here, but that's stretching it.
>>342921426
Doesn't explain the goddess statue, the TP bridges, the ALTTP placement of the Master Sword, the confirmation that the ruins are indeed OoT's castle town and the Temple of Time; among other things.
>takes place in hero fails
>you are the hero
>failed as a little kid, before pulling sword, ganon punks you when you see him leaving castle
>never pull the sword (since its rust at never being used)
>zelda and the 4 sages (hence 4 temples in this game) that were already set/met (rauru, saria, ruto, darunia) only had enough power to seal him in the castle not the sacred realm
>you gradually learn who you are from the sages you rescue saying shit like, you look like a boy I knew long ago
>>342921118
Considering some of the stuff Aonuma said and chuckled about during E3, the Child timeline, between MM and TP and Calamity Ganon is him trying to escape the Twilight Realm before he finds Zany.
The Hyrule Castle looks the same, the Temple of Time is in ruins and failing, there are chasms and bits breaking apart from each other, Eldin Bridge, the OoT ruins, etc.
>>342921836
Where are these said confirmations on the ruins?
>>342922048
How the fuck is this even before twilight princess? Look at all bigger part of the map.
>>342921836
you can age while in sleep, hence oot. could be they needed him to not only recuperate but also to come of age
>>342865987
But the real-time system was one of a few good things of Skyward. Now you can literally receive damage and pause to heal up, i hope every major boss one-hit you no exceptions
>>342920565
hat's haven't technically been confirmed. The traditional green hat might even come with the green tunic as one item, like how shoes are included with trousers.
>>342922345
Honestly this bugs me too but I am going to limit myself to only eating when near a fire and when not near using only elixrs and more portable food (like apples) and no healing in battle/mid climb
>>342922831
thankfully, its a self-controllable feature and you can do exactly that, self-imposed limits can be good if the food/inventory suffers from what i like to call: Skyrim Syndrome.
>>342922171
>Temple of Time
If it's any timeline, any it has to be between these spots.
>OoT/ALttP
No Temple of Time exists in ALttP, it's the Lost Woods by that point.
>MM/TP
Temple of Time no longer exists in TP, it's the Sacred Grove by that point.
>OoT/WW
Hyrule Castle is built over top of the Temple of Time in this timeline and no hero showed up between these events anyways. In fact, we can also knock this one out because we see a Hyrule Castle not on the Temple of Time grounds already.
>After OoT
Ganon exists.
It can literally only be in those spots, it can't be anywhere else due to the Temple of Time still standing.
>>342921109
Doesn't look like it to me, but I'm a huge faggot for Link and have a weird Brock-like-ability to pick out the differences between all of them beyond their art styles, and I don't think Nintendo shares my autism.
Especially after seeing how wrong OOT, SS, and TP Link looked in Skyward Sword.
>>342922345
The golem does at least 3 hearts and the Gardian lasers do 8. Hearts are taken instantly so if an attack does more than you have then you get no chance to heal.
The person who makes the next thread should add some sort of gimmick or open ended discussion prompt, this thread got pretty slow
>>342923216
Fuck, I meant Hyrule Warriors.
>>342923203
People are also forgetting about the castle town that Calamity Ganon currently inhibits - it looks an awful lot like the Castle capitol from TP.
>>342875513
>bear companion and flying mount listed as separate dreams
>>342923203
>>342923327
Why can't it be a new timeline or an off shoot?
How can you just trust what someone didn't even say on the timelines, Aonuma himself.
>>342923327
I mentioned it here actually >>342922048
I'll be amazed if it's not the Child Timeline. Aonuma was wearing a TP shirt as well when he pointed at it and said something along the lines of "This might mean something, maybe not" and chuckled. Not exact words, but close enough.
Another thing of note, is that Hyrule Castle is north of the Temple of Time in BotW, same as it is in TP.
>>342921836
Why wouldn't it? Hyrule is only reformed in the LttP timeline, not child/tp timeline. The events following up to the windwaker timeline (in which ganon is revived and no hero appears) hyrule is sealed and flooded, which is the same hyrule from OoT.
Post WW makes sense as the sword wasn't sealed back into the pedastle in the temple of time, allowing power to seep from the sacred realm and him to gain power without reviving and forming calamity ganon.
Post LttP wouldn't make sense as Hyrule was completely rebuilt after the sealing wars destroyed it, and prior to LttP it wouldn't make sense as ganon would still have a physical form.
The only places the timeline would make sense is pre/post TP or pre/post WW, pre TP doesn't make sense because Ganon wasn't released from being sealed until during TP, and wouldn't explain calamity/spirit ganon at all, post TP wouldn't really make too much sense unless it was drastically in the future and the Kokiri returned.
All structures/ruins remaining where they are more favors a Hyrulian flood, which followed a period of decline already marked in the hystoria, and would make sense in the prospect and advancement of the sheikah during that time period in an attempt to stop Ganon during a period of time where there wasn't a hero (which would also lead credence to why link seems to have the possibility of being "created/clone")
Keep in mind that LttP timeline would imply that TP would never have happened as well, as TP happened in one of the branching success timelines.
>>342923216
Still looks like it to me. Same eye color, same stern look as in oot concept art, and in this art even the hair looks similar style
To be fair, I really want it to be hero of time so maybe i am looking for things where there are none
There is no way this is in the Adult Timeline.
Because:
1.-IT CAN'T BE BEFORE WW, because ganondorf is sealed after OoT and when he escapes, the goddesses flooded hyrule, unless Aonuma asspulls something.
2.-No post-ww either, The king of hyrule literally wished hyrule to vanish under the sea and gave the kids a NEW FUTURE.
3.- The Temple of Time doesn't exist in Adult TImeline because Hyrule Castle is built ON it
4.-Koroks doesnt mean shit, we can see that Ritos existed before TP. Koroks is just Kokiri's natural form ,not evolution.
5.-The Master Sword is not existent in the Adult Time Line because it was flooded with Hyrule at the End Of WW.
6.-Like some anons stated before, salt from an ancient sea doesn't mean jack shit because reasons.
>>342923439
It's possible, but I think Aonuma wants to get away from trying to make Zelda more complicated that it already is. He made a comment on HW already too in that it was it's own timeline because it's a spin-off game and not a main title game.
>>342923573
It could also make sense in between TH and LoZ, considering people live in caves in fear of Ganon in LoZ, granted he's the boar demon in LoZ and there is no Temple there either.
>>342909394
why didnt he just married zelda? he died as a glorified bodyguard, even being the hero of time
>>342920367
Well you have to consider that the HoT wouldnt grow up to be the same person just because of the way time treats him
>>342923203
>Temple of time no longer exist in TP, it's the Sacred Grove by that point
It can be before TP because the ToT wasn't destroyed in OoT, we don't know why they rebuilted the Temple and when it was rebuilted
>>342923890
>Literally states that when Calamity ganon fully revives the world will end
>Implying this couldn't possibly be in reference too the goddess flooding hyrule
HURR
>>342921020
You fucking what
>>342924179
Because they don't all need to marry Zelda, which HW kind of argues against that, but still.
HoT likely just became bitter as fuck the older he got and with how pathetic Hylian Guards were, so he just threw himself at enemies trying to make a name for himself and showcase his skills, losing an eye in the process and never actually being remembered. He became reckless.
>>342924357
That was kind of my point. It only still stands before TP and before ALttP but after OoT and MM. The only two places it does, where Hyrule Castle isn't built over top of it that is.
>>342924375
We aren't ever going to have a game where Link fails, just not possible. We can have off-shoot timelines to explain other games, but actually playing a game where we fail, not happening.
>>342924375
It can be, but remember that Hyrule Castle in WW was Frozen in time, WHEN ganon attacked the castle not after. In Botw there is 100 AFTER ganon appears.
>>342924629
100 years*
>>342922567
Doesn't the black cloak thing basically confirm some kind of head wear?
>>342924797
good question
>>342924797
it did not appear at all in any of the trailer or E3 footage, it may have been scrapped.
>>342918965
Seems to be a lot of giant skulls laying around. Did they build forts that way, or was there something large that died?
>>342924614
It doesnt have to be a failure you retard, it means a subversion of the WW timeline, we have a failure off shoot, why not an off shoot that takes place in which the sheikah manage to "clone/summon" a hero to save the day before the events leading up to WW happen?
>>342924629
Hyrule was flooded WHEN Ganon revived, he hasn't revived yet in BotW, he is spirit ganon preparing to revive, there is a whole TIME PERIOD in which the hero doesn't exist before this happens causing the goddess to flood hyrule which she does because no hero appears when ganon actually reincarnates.
