>What's goo-ing on in this thread? (Slurp)
Heal slimes are the best DQ slimes. Prove me wrong.
>>342843254
As a DQ and musou fan, i loved this game.Good online co-op musou when?
>>342845642
I loved DQH and played for around 40 hours even though three "normal" Musou games bored me after playing an hours each.
It even convinced me to try the main DQ games, finished 1-6.
Also, Terry is the best character.
Wish I could do 4k on DQH
I'm about 5 hours in.
Game has been extremely boring so far.
Does it get better or should I stop right now?
>>342846456
It does when they stop doing the tower defense missions towards the end
Overall it's not amazing but I still got 30 hours out of it
>mfw finding old nintendo powers with strategies on DW1,2, 3 and Monsters 1&2 for the gbc
>>342846921
Nintendo REALLY wanted people to get into DQ like the Nips. Sadly DQ1 was too little too late in 1989. I still have all 4 NES DQ games and played and beat them all. Mostly thanks to Nintendo Power.
>>342843254
THIS IS DRAGON QUEST.
IT IS MADE OF CONSISTENCY AND SOLID GAMEPLAY.
>>342847212
It was strategies for the gbc games actually and it really is a shame they waited so long on DQ for over here considering how much of a success it was in Japan maybe it would have been better recieved if we got it a few years earlier.
>>342848416
Dragon Quest wasn't a major hit right away. It snowballed. Even Horii said it wasn't until Dragon Quest 3 massive success that they knew they captured the masses there which came out in 1988. And Enix spent a ton of money getting the NES games over here. And after that failing horribly they didn't want to waste money again. Which is weird considering Enix published other SNES RPG over here but not DQ. They was word of DQ6 coming over here but never happening.
I'm just sad we never got the SNES 1-3 nor 4 for PSX.
>>342848416
Not like they really could've known, it didn't explode in Japan until Dragon Quest 3 in 1988
So it makes sense that they didn't try to bring it over until after that
When do the 3DS ports come out?
>>342849818
Just know DQ7 and Builders. Still no official release date for DQ8.
>>342847212
DQ1 was creepy as fuck. Legit terror inducing.
>>342850118
DQ2 is even more horrific.
I loved the sense of adventure, progression and feeling strong after so much battles in Dragon Quest I, is there another DQ that's like it?
What's the best way to play 1 to 3?
Is there any portable way to do so? I travel a lot, and would love to play them.I have a PSP, is there a good emulated version of them on that, like a SNES remaster or some shit?
>>342850529
All the later Dragon Quest games give you a party instead of being solo but otherwise the gameplay hasn't changed much since then, which is a good thing.
>>342850678
There's also 3
>>342850739
Going solo was the best, every achievement felt personal and very rewarding (rescuing the princess), every connection with you ancestor felt mythical and you could feel the pressure of being the descendant of such a legendary hero, everything you found felt a huge victory, every battle felt life-threatening and tense, each level felt like a huge gap of power.
DQ should return to that.
>>342850281
>Final area in the game is harsh and unforgiving
I liked Rhone.
>>342850678
Still annoyed SE hasn't released NES and GBC on VC. It's not like it would take any effort.
NEW ROCKET SLIME FUCKING WHEN
>>342851179
Fuck this guy. Gave me more game over than other bosses combined
>>342846047
>pssh Nothing personnel Terry
>best
Pick one
>>342849940
>DQVII
>DQ Builders
>Pokemon Sun
>MHX
A good day to own PS4/3DS
>>342843254
Is the english version full of puns like that?
I remember something similar in Rocket Sliime
>>342855802
Any monsters that talk usually have some kind of verbal tic like that. It's not always puns though.
>>342853714
He's not that edgy though. He just doesn't give a shit about anything other than getting stronger. Also, he has some amazing voice acting in the Japanese version. Any weeb would recognize it.
And he's just nice to play in DQH with his moveset, skills and the ability to do those three consecutive spinning jumps that can be used to get somewhere faster.
>>342855802
It sure is.
>>342856952
>Also, he has some amazing voice acting in the Japanese version
there's no japanese version anon this is dual audio, also I recognize Kamiya when I hear him, and he has that Edgy vibe all aver him
>>342851819
I dont care about anything else. DragonQuest can burn in hell if they wont give me it
>Just started playing through DQV
>Think Pankraz is going to be a badass party member and top tier father when my character grows up
I honestly didn't ask for this.
>>342859335
Buckle your ass up
>>342859583This is probably one of the rare times a game made me sad. All he wanted was to reunite his family.
For some reason I always lose motivation to keep playing DQ8 after killing Dhoulmagus. I know almost half the game is left, I've beaten it twice before, but now in replays I can't help but feel like the part of the game that I love is over and there's no point in going on.
Fuck off, Honeywood.
>>342861089
Really? I always liked the parts of the game where things really open up after getting the ship and being able to go almost everywhere. The only part that bugs me on replays is Godbird Isle since it's big and fucking empty besides some treasure chests.
Holy fuck do they still make dragon warrior monster games? like with similar mechanics and everything?
That game was the first I ever played and I played to completion, breeding my dudes over and over to get the "god" monsters was so fun.
>>342861158
Aw come on, it's not so baa-d
>>342861250
I didn't like how the villain for 90% of the next section of the game is a dog
>>342861417
Yes. They haven't been released outside of Japan since Joker 2 on the DS though.
Playing DQVI, I'm at the point where you have to go up the tower to defeat a mage that is holding a princess in a mirror.
This game is getting SO FUCKING BORING. The whole class system is shit, the whole "ADVENTURE" feel is almost nowhere to be found. This guy has hardly a reason to fight at this point, he is just going around solving problems or shit just to get a new ride to the next area with a problem. This is getting boring so fast, things started getting so much worse after the defeat of that lizard guy in the dream world.
>>342852089
God what a cunt. Only reason he was easier than atlas was because his spells did less damage giving you some breathing time and, IIRC, he only acts once per round.
>immune to ailments
>can cast healall even in non-NES versions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
>>342853239
>stopspell
>sleep if that doesn't work
Eyyy lamarr.
>>342861650
Fuck, is joker 2 (and I'm assuming joker one) playable?
>>342861419
>filename
>>342861510
Yeah but then the game lets you beat the faggotry out of Marcello
>>342847934
tl;dr
>>342861769
I can't help it, I love bad puns.
>>342861767
Yeah. The servers for the online tournaments are long dead though, but that part was totally optional. They're pretty good, although I liked Joker 1 more than Joker 2.
>>342861853
It's a series that lets you actually feel like you're going on a real adventure, without being tied down by the angst and cliches of modern jrpgs.
It always throws me off how relatively reliable status ailments and instant death abilities can be in this series. Cast Thwack on a group of enemies that aren't immune to it and it'll usually kill half of em.
Should I wait for DQ7 on 3ds or emulate ps1 now?
>>342862079
Wait for 3DS. It improves on pretty much every aspect of the original.
>play dragon quest viii
>only dragons I ever run across are sea dragons
huh
>>342861741
>This guy has hardly a reason to fight at this point
WAY TO NOT READ
>pre-game Prince wants to rid the world of a terrible demon, despite everyone telling him not to because he might get killed
>shit happens, he does so
>literally gets told that there are other demons in the world just as strong, and some even stronger
>fuck that shit, world ain't safe yet, time to make it so, does so
>then hears that there is an even bigger demon ruining shit across fucking dimensions
>goes to the biggest demon's home turf to put that shit to an end, DESPITE THE VERY WORLD SAID DEMON LIVES IN SUCKING AWAY HIS VERY LIFE FORCE
>finds a way to keep that shit from happening
>kills said greatest demon
>goes back home, knowing shit's gonna be alright, then proceeds to do Kingly shit
Best Prince, fuck you.
>>342861874
shit boy looks like Igot some games to play, shame we won't be getting more though. Cheers!
>>342862338
You forgot Thorn Dragons
And did you forget to do the stuff after the final boss?
>>342862338
Did you actually finish the game?
>>342862072
Welcome to JRPGs that aren't FF.Actually, even in FF some statuses are extremely good. For example the third fight against seymour in FFX is extremely easy if you know that he is weak to bio, just like the death wall in FFIV. Status effects are so underrated.
>>342861769
>marcello doesn't stab himself in the arm anymore
>david doesn't eat dogfood anymore
>turns out the real dhoulmagus dindu nuffin
GAAAAAAAY
>>342862418
Well we're fucking FINALLY getting DQ7 and 8's 3DS remakes, if we're lucky we might get Joker 3. Fingers crossed.
>the Dragon Quest Monster Encyclopedia has pages just about monsters that debuted in Terry's Wonderland 3D and X
It's not fair...
>>342862338
>play dragon quest
>there is always a dragon that is at least partially relevant to the plot
>ALWAYS
>>342862338
You didn't get the True Ending.
>>342862679
I NEED -SCANS-
AND PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN
Why are dragon quest monsters the most appealing ones in video games? Pokemon are nice and all but DQ monsters manage to have some level of Digimon weird going without going full on belts and bullshit
>>342861853
Stick with Final Fantasy if you're too lazy to read.
>>342862906
Because Toriyama is a master at making good monster designs.
Not so good at character designs.
>>342862906
Because Toriyama is happiest when he's making monsters and machines.
Even some of the throwaway mecha and vehicles he's made for literally single page instances of dragon ball are cool looking.
>>342863023
>>342863074
This guy comes up with a surprise attack and double crits you in the anus
What do you do?
That's a trick question, because you're now dead.
>>342862506
In FF Tactics 2, statuses were really useful. And there are some (time magic and stuff) that even late-game enemies aren't immune to.
>>342862389
Too bad that nothing like that is told AT ALL after he kills the big bad in dream world. They literally tell "uh yeah you should find yourself or something if you feel to" and that's it. The whole "there might be more big bads around" gets told just after you defeat that guy eating the lazy people, but nothing more. At the point I am, he is literally just stumpling around randomly killing random evildoer no.23422 without any kind of true objective in mind. Being swept around by the events is cool, but this is too much. And the whole poor job system isn't making this any funnier.
The fact that he just happens to "hear" that there is a interdimensional dude fucking shit up is shit by itself, it just feels like the developers noticed that there was no true final objective -a true QUEST- and put a completely random final boss.
>>342847934
i read this and now i am going to play dragon quest.
>>342863023
>Not so good at character designs.
Sameface is a bit of a problem but as long as he keeps making all these grade A semen demons I don't give a shit
>>342862079
DQ7 is a fucking long game, ~200 hours. Just wait few months.
>>342863358
>The fact that he just happens to "hear" that there is a interdimensional dude fucking shit up is shit by itself, it just feels like the developers noticed that there was no true final objective -a true QUEST- and put a completely random final boss.
Wow, much like every other DQ ever, even the first.
>>342863907
But that's wrong
>>342863907
You start off the game that you have to kill a dragon. They literally tell you in the very first minutes what is your objective.
You end the game by killing said dragon.
Fuck off.
>>342864308
Why would The Descendant show up to the castle in the first place then? Was he just visiting? He didn't even have proof that he was The Descendant.
They also locked the door behind him.
>>342843254
I'm playing DQ2 on the NES right now, trouying to find the 5 crests. I've got three so far but I feel like this is rather ridiculous. How much more do I have to go? I want to finish 1-6 before 7 comes out on the 3ds.
>>342864674
>How much more do I have to go?
YOU JUST SAID YOU FOUND 3
OUT OF 5
COME ON MANG
>>342864838
I meant in the game as a whole.
>>342865039
Depends.
Which crests do you have?
You have likely missed one really obvious one or you still have one kinda tough one to get.
>>342865134
>really obvious
Sorry.
I mean "really NOT obvious". My bad.
The only obvious thing is how many people miss it.
>>342862906
Because you have seen them a thousand times and you're too fond to their designs.
Also, even toriyamas monsters feel same facey.
>>342865134
I've got the water, sun and moon crests.
>>342865270
Quit only knowing about the slimes.
>>342865327
Go get the fire crest and you're set.
Then you have to go to rhone, fall in a pit near the beginning, and find it in a chest.
Before you go to rhone though,
I HOPE YOU HAVE THE EVIL STATUE/EYE OF MALROTH
>>342865672
>find it
I mean the life crest.
Fire crest is in the torchy/warp island.
YOU DO HAVE A SHIELD OF STRENGTH FOR EVERY CHARACTER RIGHT?
>>342862962
But all Final Fantasy games are deeper and more complex both gameplay and story wise than any Dragon Quest game.
>>342847934
This image is so fucking awful. It's just blatant jacking off to the series.
>>342866564
You're cute.
>>342862906
>monster
looks like a perfectly normal bat to me.
>>342863023
Monsters are characters as well.
>>342866747
They really are. You can't name a single Dragon Quest game with deeper gameplay than Final Fantasy V for example.
>>342866879Dragon Quest VII
>>342866564
You're right. I think most DQ fans accept this, because more complex does not equal better anyway. But there are some who feel threatened by FF and its fanbase and will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to make it out at the objectively better series.
>>342867062
Dragon Quest 7 didn't handle its job system nearly as well as FFV though.
>>342867062
>DQ7
>deep
Nah.
Literally grind to win, and I love DQ7.
Monster class system was just an altered version of the normal class system, but with extra perks such as element and ailment resistances (and weaknesses).
>>342866879
>Abloo bloo
>If it's more complex then it's better
Like Lulu's belt dress, right fag?
>>342869635
I'm just pointing out the irony in saying
>Stick with Final Fantasy if you're too lazy to read.
When you like Dragon Quest.
>>342869635
>Character designer Tetsuya Nomura gave Lulu numerous belts to test the graphics developers to see if they could get the exact combination, number of belts, and overall design correct every time.
why is Psaro such a bitch in heroes
>>342862906
Toriyama is better at designing monsters and robots in all honesty. I like the DQ monster design as they have a great balance of cartoony and deadly. Although goofier I also enjoy the monster design in the mother series.
Even the simples NES sprites have so much character and charm.
All I want for Christmas is a DQXI localization
>>342843254
The fact that so many anons still name Dragon Quest "the greatest or most significant or most influential" RPG ever only tells you how far the genre still is from becoming a serious art. FPS critics have long recognized that the greatest first person shooters of all times are Duke Nukem and DOOM, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Puzzle games critics rank the highly controversial Bejeweled over classical games that were highly popular with kids around the world. RPG critics are still blinded by commercial success: Dragon Quest sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. FPS critics grow up playing to a lot of FPS games of the past, Puzzle games critics grow up playing a lot of classical Puzzle games of the past. RPG critics are often totally ignorant of the RPG's of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that Dragon Quest did anything worth of being saved.
>tfw you're sort of glad that X was never localized because that game would destroy your life
342870970
Nice pasta my friend, not getting the (You) though.
Can we all agree that that personalities were the worst thing about the Dragon Quest 3 remakes? That and making all the best armor female exclusive.
>>342859867
It gets worse.Hero had a hard life.
I picked up DQH last night for 15$ and started playing. Didnt spend too much time last night, but i was loving it.
I remember getting 8 when it came out, and beating it, but that was it.
My question is that I really want to get into this series. A friend is giving me his N3ds in a few weeks when he buys the MHG N3ds, and im gonna homebrew it.
My question is what versions should i get that i could play them all on the N3ds hacked?
>>342870654
>monsters
>4 humans
The strangest part is that I can imagine them appearing in a Monsters game and being a breedable monster.
>>342871270
I didn't like the personalities, no. I thought about playing the FC version next time because of them, but the SFC version is just too good.
>>342871257
maybe next time :^)
>>342846047
Terry is a fucking edgelord disgrace, I bet you like Jack in Mass Effect faggot
>>342871294
DQ5 is pretty good.
>>342870654
>all those color swaps
disgusting
>>342870264
Because he was always a bitch.
>>342871284Pankraz reunites with the hero's mom as ghosts and got to see his son and grandchildren succeed in his original goal. At least he had a happy ending.
>>342871495
>I thought about playing the FC version next time because of them, but the SFC version is just too good.
I know exactly how you feel. Maybe one of these days rom hackers can remove personalities from the game. Probably not though.
>>342871270
>>342871495
No, it was one of the best things, you pussies.
Worst thing was NOT FIXING THE FUCKING EQUIPMENT AS ITEMS RESTRICTIONS
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS STILL SO STUPID AND RETARDED GODDAMNIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHs_CVwYd8Q
>>342871879
NES man, often that was a easy way to save space.
>>342870970
That's because those anons are retards that never played Ultima and Wizardry.
>>342872291
>No, it was one of the best things, you pussies.
All it did was make characters hugely unbalanced. Seriously some personalities like Sexy and Hyper were just straight up overpowered.
>>342850529
>>342851034
you can attempt a solo run on DQIX but i you may need party members to unlock certain classes. still fighting pic related was thrilling
>>342871284
The absolute worst parts are
>going back to the past the first timethen going back the second time even further and just accepting it
>>342871270
They are annoying but I would still call the sfc version definitive version.
>haven't played by III sfc save in over a month
Shit should I start that up again? I remember I got the sword to destroy the volcano and a few of the spheres.
>>342872417
That's because both Ultima and Wizardry were pc exclusives for their best, most innovative games. Games Journalism has always been skewed towards console games.
>>342871380
They are.
Even these eggheaded fucks.
>>342872831
Wait how does that even work? DQ is such a fucked up world.
>>342870215
Really? That's kinda neat.
>>342872091
>bianca
>normal metal sword
Way for the artist to show they never played the fucking game
>but anon, Bianca can use two swords!
Yes, and neither are NORMAL nor do they look like that. On top of that, they're more like rapiers.
>metal slime death star
but why
>>342843254
>Just started playing DQH last night and then see this
Nice. I really want to jump in and play all of the DQ games because DQH really rekindled my love for the designs of the monsters and characters.
What is the best way to play DQ1-3 though? Would it be emulating the NES versions?
>>342872464
Then don't use them. You can still win
Also, despite what the percentages say online, sexy isn't actually all that good. It's only perk is that it has no "weakness". It just makes your party a pinch more evened out. Mages will always be shit for physical, fighters will never gain MP, and so forth.
Hyper isn't even noteworthy because the only way you're getting it is by having an accessory that is insanely OP to begin with, and that's because Agility is still running on outdated NES rules in any version of DQ3. Even DQ2 revamps change agility.
Several of the other personalities are better for particular stats.
>>342873372
super famicom
>>342872721
What is your party? The last time I played my party consisted of Hero (Male) + Fighter (Female) + Thief (Male) + Sage (Female). Out of curiosity is a Thief viable throughout the entire game or should you just class change one once you get all the skills? I think Thief has some sort of passive for stealing but I'm not sure.
>>342873035
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.jpg
>>342873035
They're just some dudes that want to breed with monsters
>>342873262
Giant flying king liquid metal slime was worse in terms of silly shit.
Bad enough he runs away at the speed of fuck you, but now he can FLY.
Death Star is probably one of those fuse-only monsters like Gold King Slime was (before DQ7)
Game was fun outside of the voice acting. Both types were garbage, don't even start with that japanese have more passion bullshit.
>>342873919
>They're just some dudes that want to breed with monsters
Aren't they able to have a female gender though just like all other monsters?
>>342873642
Thanks, anon. You're the best.
>>342873372
See if you can't find the GBA remakes, either that or the SNES versions I guess. The oldest games are super hard to go through on the NES due to it's age.
>>342873372
DQI and DQII- sfc or gbc
DQIII- sfc
DQI-II on sfc has some nasty bugs but has the best graphics and music, up to you.
DQIII is best on sfc, don't let people tell you the monster metals are cool. They add nothing to the game.
>>342846047
Nintendorks cant handle the fact that Terry is just the non-faggy version of Link
>>342874002
>>342874027
Thanks, anons. I appreciate your help. It sucks to emulate the games, but I sure it will be fun.
What are the bugs for the SFC version of DQ1-2?
Why isn't this game on sale? Fuck you Square! I wouldn't mind 30-40 but 60 is too much.
>>342873675
My party was hero, martial artist, theif, and a sage. Theif actually is a viable class as they great offense and speed and whips are always useful weapons. While turning a theif into a sage is a good idea theif is a good class and perfectly viable.
Pic related, my very exact party.
>>342861741
I don't really get your complains, probably because I like DQ the best when it let me go around at my own pace, exploring and finding things without a big quest dragging me along, and VI is fantastic in this.
The world is huge and the 3 (4) different planes of exploration lead to some really clever level design, it's full of things to find and side stuff to do, finding the (not yet) zenithian stuff is more cryptic than usual, there are events in which you can just stumble upon and at any time you want.
Sure the job system isn't the best, but the huge variety of skills added is appreciated.
>>342874491
Holy shit you had the SAME exact party as me? That's strange. And speaking of which who's the artist? Google search leads me to a search about used cars.
>>342850989
>that cover
What the flying shit
>>342874590
that dread realm shit was legit depressing
>>342875038
it's literally where dreams go to die
>>342874357
Its less than $25 physical for ps4.
>>342874491
never expected my car to be a dqmobile
>>342875247
I don't have a ps4 yet. I like jrpgs and got a ps3 but I'm waiting for more games for it. When Dragon Quest 11 comes out though, I'm definitely getting one.
>>342874739
Not, sure pretty sure I found it ontumblr.When you said fighter I wasn't sure if you had meant the solider or martial artist, the names for the classes are different in every version. Yeah though its a solid team. Sorry I don't know the artist.They're are a surprising amount of DQ blogs that post fanart, its pretty nice.
>>342873675
Thief has passive for stealing all the time and gains MP every level. Thief's primary issue, much like the Dealer, is having their mid-game gear being kinda shoddy. You can keep a thief all game though (be it the same one or a class changed one), because there's never a disadvantage to having one. Dealer just gets less viable, but depending on if it class changed or not. If it did from something with spells, then you might as well use it. Some of the Dealer's late/end-game weapons and armor are actually pretty damn solid and always getting MP per level is nice.
Is it nice enough to bother keeping a dealer over a warrior or a fighter? No, but you could consider keeping them over a sage if they class changed from one. Sage is kinda shoddy when it comes to physical stats (HP, STR, VIT, and I believe their agility ain't too hot without the boosting accessories), thus they can die a bit easier than other classes. You have no reason to have a Mage or Cleric after mid-game though.
Choosing between them, a Thief is better mostly because items are better than money, but, as I said, depending on how you class change or play, a Dealer shouldn't be totally disavowed.
I think Hero ends up lacking, outside of equipment and healusall, once post-game starts.
Fighter will always be useful as the crit-master class, especially because crits pierce defense.
Warrior has value though in being able to use the element swords to clear out trash randoms, as well as having the most HP, VIT, and almost 1st best STR. As well as all of the shields except the hero shield (very helpful vs magic).
I believe that one of the online sources got the falcon sword wrong (the use of which is good when you reduce an enemy's defense to zero), since I recall the Warrior being able to use it. Don't quote me though. I remember for sure that at least some sources got some of the equipment wrong.
>>342875656
Yeah Fighter is pretty much Martial Artist. Sorry for the confusion.
>>342875681
Alright thanks.
>>342875901
Yeah, I remember doing my Ed, Edd, n Eddy run.
Eddy went from thief to dealer and I was surprised at how solid the dealer actually was in terms of stats and equipment, but not having a good magic background made him lacking without any magic-equipment or magic-items like the sage stone.
The only thing that sucked was the because he was a male dealer, his best equipment was the magic apron. Female dealers get further female-only armor, some with extra resistances.
Also, to an extent I will take back the sage comment, because I forgot that they can wear the dragon robe, which reduces breath damage. Insulate is great and all, but having dragon robe and insulate is better.
>>342874491
>>342873675
My party through DQIII was Hero, Mage, Cleric. Gets you almost all the skills in the game, keeps characters differentiated, and a tiny bit faster than with a full four. The action deficit is kinda painful when the later bosses start actually being able to break through buffed up characters between beefy multiattacks and dispels.
Never really tackled the bonus content though.
>>342876716
Also thieves get extra good stuff for no good reason.
Whatever.
>>342876885
>not using all 4 slots in a normal
Hmmm. Sounds kinda neat.
I know for a fact that experience is divided in DQ3, so I wonder how much of a difference it is between just 3 versus 4.
>>342843254
So why does Joker have the best commercial of all time?
>>342876716
>Ed, Edd, n Eddy run
That sounds hilarious. Now you make me want a stick of truth like game with the ed boys.
>>342876885
Interesting you only used three slots. Sounds like it would be difficult.
>>342843254
where should i grind at in dq4? i'm up to the palais de leon right before i'm able to recruit Ragnar
>>342878138
Wherever you can find Metal Slimes or Liquid Metal Slimes.
>>342878138
did you get to the royal crypt? there's a shitton of liquid metal slimes there
>>342878138
I remember that boss killing me once or twice, grinding is a good idea.
How come after Dragon Quest 1 all the final bosses are demons instead of dragons?
>>342878569
Because there are a lot of good dragons now.
I legitimately tried to like this game. I put probably 25 miserable hours into it thinking it would surely get better.
I play all DW games, I guess because it's a bit like gambling. It doesn't take skill, but it's fun to watch and you always feel like your progressing towards some goal, whether that be new weapons, mounts, story progression, etc. all other spinoffs have been similar: gundam, one piece, samurai, even FOTN.
This game however, this fucking game, just lacks all of that. You never fight large hoards, you don't earn many pick ups, every level is too big and feels unpopulated. How did it all go so wrong...
>>342878569
The games got larger in scale and some kind of Turbo-Satan is usually a bigger threat to the world than a dragon that's fucking with one kingdom. Dragon family enemies are usually pretty prominent in endgame areas though.
>>342878569
The final boss of 10 is a saiyan ape.
>>342878798
Because it's not a straight up musou.
>You never fight large hoards
You sure you beat the game? There gets to be some pretty big clusterfucks on a lot of maps.
My Cannock got sick. Middenhall and Moonbrook can manage fine but I feel much better with him there.
>>342877815
Because they wanted to actually throw some money at dragon quest marketing for a change
>>342879090
find a yggdrasil leaf
>>342878936
Nah, I didn't beat it. I spent some time grinding. I just got really bored. I wish I could recall the last thing I did, based on trophies, I'm probably a couple hours off.
I get that it's not straight musou, I just don't really get what it was. It never really felt fully realized.
>>342879420
Found it and he's better.
>>342879428
It feels like they got a better idea of what they wanted to do towards the end of the game. I've heard the sequel is a lot better, and from what I've seen of it that seems to be the case, so I guess we'll see if that actually comes out over here.
And I totally admit that a big chunk of the reason I liked it was tearing entire maps apart with pretty much just Jessica and Yangus
>>342877815
CASTZESPHELL
>>342849940
>Amazon still hasnt fixed the date fuck up and it's still digital only
Step up Amazon holy fuck
>>342846047
I really like Terry character design.
>>342880431
They nailed all of the old characters' designs
I even like Alena's new design
I'm looking for a cheap and cheerful Bluetooth controller for my phone since I'm planning on emulating the mainline games from the start on my commutesince I finished the Hannibal books last week.
Any recommendations?
Or should I look at getting a flash cart for my GBASP?
I'm also looking for a copy of DQM:J2 in the UK if anyone has any idea where to get it reasonably priced?
Argos UK shows it for £5 but isn't in stock anywhere, I do check every couple of weeks too.
am I the -only- person who thinks every character drawn by this artist has the exact same face?
Girls have all the same face, boys have all the same face.
>>342872808
I guess Wizardry is still really popular in Japan. They're perfectly playable even with nice graphics (eg. the SNES port of I-II-III).
Ultima did some really neat things but I don't really like the looks of the games
>>342877905
For most of the game it's not hard because most enemies can't do much against a buffed up team, and some of the gaps in individual spell lists can eventually be covered up with items that can cast spells for free. The bad equipment list for the basic caster classes is a big letdown though, especially when it comes to magic/breath defense.
I hear that going solo is also a surprisingly not horrible idea for a good chunk of the game, as well.
>>342881484
Guys are all Gohans and Vegetas while women are all Bulmas or 18s. You're not alone. People says that's the charm of Toriyamas style. I kinda agree.
>>342849940
>that smug bitch on the cover
I might have to give it a shot
>>342881175
I preffer her old design but the new one is good.
>>342881484
Many people feel this way. Anyone have that "Good morning Crono" picture where everyone including the sun is Vegeta? I know I have it but I don't feel like searching for it.
>>342881175
The only character that looked off to me in Heroes was Jessica. no idea why.
>>342851337
You act like SE wants to promote the series in the west.
>>342845642
2 has online co-op. Dunno if I'd call it good though. you can't swap who you're playing as online and I think the host is stuck as their MC. It also scales to whoever is the highest level or an average, but either way someone being even like 10 levels ahead makes everything tanky as hell for anyone lower. Though maybe with 3 or 4 people it's not bad
>>342882462
I also intend to try it for her.
He's hot as fuck, too.
ALL I WANT IS JOKER 3 AND TERRY'S WONDERLAND
FUCK DQ8 MAINLINE SERIES HAS ALWAYS BEEN MEDIOCRE
I NEED MONSTERS. I'LL SHOVE MY GAMEBOY CARTIDGES OF DRAGON WARRIOR MONSTER'S AND DRAGON WARRIOR MONSTERS 2 TARA'S ADVENTURE UP MY ASSHOLE AND TAPE JOKER 1 AND JOKER 2 TO MY NIPPLES.
GIVE ME MONSTERS. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>342883660
we need a DQ thread bingo card
>>342883660
JUST
IMPORT
>>342883660
I remember hearink joker 3 was not all that great actually. Anyone know what the nips thought of it?
>>342864308
Literally the only DQ that doesn't pull a 2nd act and real final boss out of the pocket is the first one
will dq 7 have preorder bonuses
I need a slime plushie
>>342879428
>I spent some time grinding
Why would you do that? Outside of finishing quests there's pretty much no reason to specifically go out and grind until post game.
>>342884943
just buy one
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dragon+quest+slime
>>342885123
I wish there were more alt costumes
I guess they must've gone straight to working on the sequel instead of pumping out DLC for it like some of their other games
>>342872335
Fuck off Chen.
>>342864307
god damnit!
>>342886123
>playing VI
>inexplicably encounter normal metal slimes in the last dungeon
>suddenly more show as I attempt to kill them
>they merge into a metal king
>next turn
>the metal king has fled
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>342886446
>DQ8
>Grinding up a couple of levels before I do the Dragovian Sanctuary since I was only like level 40 when I beat the game
>In the Dragon's Graveyard, there's one enemy group that can show up with two King Metal Slimes and a bunch of flies that can cast Kerplunk
>I actually managed to kill seven King Metal Slimes in a single encounter
>>342886915
I don't think I've managed to kill more than four or five metal monsters in a single encounter. There's always that little bit of regret when some get away.
>>342882115
>DQ1 hero is now a blond faggot
why
>>342890374
Nothing wrong with blond hair but I don't like that redesign at all either. It would've been better as a party member or protagonist for some other game.
>>342890374
In what game? And was his hair ever shown in any of the old artwork? Everything I've seen has his hair covered with his helmet.
>>342878138
Southwest of Endor is a late game dungeon with liquid metal slimes, you can only access the lobby area though. I just finished that fight earlier in the week
>>342890740
how come she becomes blonde in game? purple hair is superior
>>342891070
It was that weird jap only remake of the first game that had early motion controls.
They used the character design from that for him from then on.
>>342891296
I have no clue.
>playing DQ IV
>Zinthia Castle is smack dab in the middle of two dungeons and yet its priest doesn't let you save and there's no inn inside the castle for some dumb fucking reason.
It wasn't a complete bust since my party's overleveled and filled with mp, I just want to complain.
>>342891296
She has purple hair in the original, blonde in the SFC remake, and what hair color is used switches back and forth after that. A Japanese wiki actually has a chart to keep track of her hair color. Seems she's blonde in more games than she is purple, but she has purple hair in the majority of fan art.
>>342881827
we gotta work on that image. it could be trimmed down and simplified in a chart that goes game/accomplishments/flaws/ recommended versions
that way we give new comers two clear choices. chronological or pick the one that fits your tastes
would do it myself but have only played 3,4,5,6,9. only finished 9&5 tho going thru 1 right now. could become my favorite
>>342892096
Might not be a bad idea, though not everyone will agree on what's great and what's a flaw, so good luck with that. I'd also add in the PSX version of IV for people who can into Nip, as it's a pretty good version.
>>342891543
how did you get those costumes anyways
>>342893383
It was all DQ IX DLC if I remember right. You had to get on some network service that was built into the game to get them. You can still get the stuff if you have an Action Replay or R4 card, but otherwise you can't get it anymore.
>>342893838
>>342893383
It was Tag Mode bullshit, which was just as bad. You need to have your DS/DSi in sleep mode with Tag Mode enabled, AND JUST HOPE SOMEONE DID THE SAME.
>>342894602
Still not as bad as TWEWY's mingle mode. I carried that shit with me for weeks and even in the city I never got a single person.
>>342886915
Is that even more efficient than just grinding on the slime hill
>>342894602
The fuck? I guess that's not a terrible thing for Jap players but how many people over here got to play them? That's lame.
>>342894890
I thought so. Slime Hill is okay for an obvious grinding spot but I think that uncharted island in the southwest corner of the map with Liquid Metal Slimes, and Dragon's Graveyard with Metal King Slimes, are both better.
>>342894602
Wrong, you just needed to connect to DQVC.
>>342895135
Well, DQIX sold well in the West, very well infact. However, much like Streetpass, it's aimed primarily towards the Japanese and won't really amount to much unless you go to cons.
Tag Mode is a big reason I'd like DQIX to be remade or at least remastered in a way. Just make all of the DLC and Tag Mode shit post game.
>>342895381
Slime Hill is pretty fucking good in the 3DS version because of the on-screen enemy thing.
>>342895530
I think Horii said he wanted to remake it too
>>342895564
Yeah that'll probably change things. In the PS2 version I prefer Dragon Graveyard, although I don't do any major grinding at all in DQ8. Just getting to level 3 or 4 before going into the first dungeon, and going from 40 to 50 really quick before the Dragovian area.
>>342895449
See, that still doesn't really help western players.
>>342893383
Streetpasses + the wifi shop
Wifi shop updates would add a previous DQ character to your Inn occasionally. Then every 10 or so streetpasses you got the characters would give you one piece of their outfit and then their hat/a wig of their hair. Think it takes 50 streetpasses for them all, and if you streetpassed somebody with characters or shop updates you don't have you would get them.
>>342895530
I'd love a remake of it. Making those hidden grottoes accessible post-game without all the tag nonsense would be great.
>>342891296
>the first time i played i played dq3 i my whole team was female
>only the hero was male
>i tought of a lot of porn ideas in my mind.
>>342869768
Dragon Quest
>Talk to people and read the dialogue to progress through the game
Final Fantasy
>Flashy cinematics with voice acting pointing you to the path
>>342896793
>i tought of a lot of porn ideas in my mind.
Well at least it wasn't in someone else's mind.
>>342896793
Females are statistically better then males, in some cases the females will have be 30-50 points higher then the male version of the class.
>>342873035
>>342873262
This is why people want the Monsters games. They go all out with the monsters. Joker 2 vanilla still impresses me. The current game goes to 800+ monsters, and I'm wondering if Joker 3 will push for an even thousand.
>>342897245
And every monster is endgame viable assuming they kept that whole Monster X, Monster XY system from Joker 2 Prowhich I'm still salty that we didn't get
>>342895657
what for? X basically does improves and expands every feature that made IX stand out. sure its the only DQ that could use a re-make given how limited it was by the DS but i'd still say its too soon.
>>342897245
I just thought of something. You know how almost every single enemy you fight in DQ will inevitably become a monster you can breed and raise in the DQ games? What about Terry? He was a boss fight remember. Just imagine Terry's Wonderland 3DS where you can breed an adult version of yourself.
>>342896819
but thats exactly what makes dragon quest great. probably the best example that less is more.
>>342891296
>>342897714
What are these from?
>>342897558
I think you can do just that. I don't have the site on me, but they listed just about every one on there, and adult Terry was one of them.
>>342897714
I was saying that in favor of Dragon Quest.
>>342897997
Wait, nevermind. I realized after asking that Googling it should help, and it did.
>>342866637
No fucking shit? The entire point is to point out a gem of a series that needs more of a following what the fuck did you expect?
>>342898052
>I think you can do just that. I don't have the site on me, but they listed just about every one on there, and adult Terry was one of them.
No way I don't believe you at all holy shit.
>>342898215
Nigga you could get the fucking Schleiman Tank as a "monster" back in Joker 2. Nothing's off limits.
>>342898385
Before you know it you will be able to breed every single NPC in existence as a monster.
>>342897245
I can't tell you how much autism filled time I spent on Dragon warrior monster 2 colbis adventure. Somehow I failed to ever beat the final boss because all I ever did was breed new teams.
Question for all the Monsters Fans, what are your favorite mechanics from the games, what are your least, if you could add change or remove something what would it be?
Im trying to make a monsters game and want ideas
>>342872591
fuck that instant knockdown shit
and FUCK disruptive wave
Need help in III on snes/sfc.
At the town where the merchant becomes mayor, I'm at the part where the villagers are complaining about the mayor but can't get the next event to happen. How do I get the mayor in jail to get the yellow orb? Online walkthroughs aren't really helping.
>>342898215
Found it!
http://dqm23ds.ffsky.cn/montou.htm
http://dqm3d.ffsky.cn/monsters.htm
Have fun!
>>342898985
How come his mom let him have two swords?
>>342899031
>all these cute monster girls
>will never ever come to the states
FUCKING WHY
>>342898698
>a shit ton of monsters
>the more customization the better
>ALL monsters are viable end game, even if you have to jump through hoops to make them viable (in dragon warrior monsters 2, every time you bred a monster, it got a small increase to its maximum stats, so you could chain breed one to get it to the point that it had max stats letting you use whoever you wanted)
>some kind of replayability (dwm2 had randomly generated post game dungeons)
>>342886915
You are kind of right on how to handle the final grinding area. However Those flies actually can resurrect fallen allies. So what you want is multiple flies and a Metal King Slime. Kill the Metal King Slime and have one of the flies resurrect the Metal King Slime and kill it again and repeat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_exvh5pm_V8
Don't know if the 3DS version has something better however.
>>342899638
>>ALL monsters are viable end game
Joker 2 Pro (and the later games, I think) Lets you upgrade any monster to the highest rank (with better base stats and abilities) if you keep fusing high level copies of the same monsters together.
I think it was like, for example
>2 level 20 Slimes
>2 more level 20 Slimes
>Fuse the result of those two together to get a Slime X
>Then do it again with Slime X's (at a higher level, I think 40?) to get a Slime XY
>>342899996
Yep, two slimes made a strong slime, and then you did it again with two more slimes, then you'd get Slime X and then repeat with two Slime X'es to get Slime XY and so on until you got a maxed out slime. A struggle, but it's there.
>>342898985
Anyone?
>>342899638
>>342899996
Late game viability is something ive been thinking one. Personally I dont want to do the synthesize route for monster creation since i get attached to my monsters and then essentially sacrificing 2 for 1 new one feels weird. So i need to design a new system for upgrading.
I am mad that some characters mostly yangus are only in DQH2 as DLC and not playable in the main story and only challenge levels, why not at least let me use them in the story after I beat the game or something
>>342900435
so do a breeding system instead of fusing
fusing always seemed weird anyway
>>342850678
Go to emuparadise and find the SFC remakes of 1 2 and 3 with the translations.
>>342900635
Yeah i'll probably have some sort of breeding system in, doesnt really help with getting particular monsters up to late game though Since at that point it isnt your slime you have had since the first encounter, but his 32 generation descendant after careful eugenics with a ancient demon lord
>>342898985
Keep waiting I guess.
>>342862338
Those fatass yellow ones that carry jars around are dragons
>>342845520
>Not slime knights
Everyone who's played V will tell you Goodian/Pierre the slime knight was one of the best recruitables.
And in VI, even if recruitable monsters weren't a big point of the game, Goowain was easily the best choice to do the entire slime arena. He can even do it rather early if you complete the paladin class on him.
They fucking KNEW he was good when compared to all the other slime allies, he was the one with a unique set of equiptable items.
>>342900896have a sacrificing system for boosting monsters past their normal maximums
>>342901502
Goodian will carry your ass with his multiheal until you can get a Golem or some other strong endgame monsters (or just your family).Especially if you cheese the casino for Metal King equipment early
>>342901502
I loved Pierre in V. I even named my Slime Knight in the monsters games after him.
>>342845520
liquid metal slimes
>>342879749
seriously. what the fuck is taking them so long to fix it?
>>342901502
My headcanon was that Goodian became Gotha's head knight after the events of V and that Goowain was his descendant.
>>342902886
But VI takes place before V
>>342861650
I can die happily if this gets released outside of nip land
>>342903173
Shit man, I only just got the legendary equipment, don't spoil it for me like that.
In which case it's the other way around now.
I've been grinding the casino in VI for hours, is it even possible to get a 77777?
>>342864307
oh, I get it
>>342903323
It'll be very obvious to you very soon, don't worry
Are the android and ds versions of V the same? I really want to play it but I can't find a DS copy
>>342903505
If you're talking aboutliberating the Zenithian castle from Dhuranthen yeah I suppose it should have made sense.
>>342903637
yes, but you can buy new copies on square's online store IIRC
you could also try the ps2 version
>>342903637
Just emulate it dude
>>342893838
anyone have a code list for that shit?
Question regarding VI
I have the dragon slash move from the gladiator class, but I was wondering, which monsters exactly are counted as dragons? There's no family or other classification in the Big Book of Beasts.
I know those axe wielding dinos and the inflation fetish dragons count as dragons, but anything else?
>>342898985
simply walk out of town and use the night lamp to make days go faster. eventually the your friend gets in jail and tells you to get the orb at her house.
>>342905149
Use it against anything lizardy is my go all solution. Isn't 100% accurate but works well enough.
>>342905149
Literally just damselflies, flythons, gasbagons axesauruses, and all palette swaps of them.
Yeah I know it's shit because the damselflies and flythons aren't obviously dragons.
At least you recruit the only remotely decent looking dragon.
>>342846047
I agree. terry a best.
Then again I'm a little biased because Dragon Warrior Monsters 1 was my first DQ game
>>342905594
Ok but no matter what every time I try he is never in jail. Walkthroughs online say all I do is talk to the guys by the jail at night then simply wait for day. I talk to the group, they say they are going to rebel against the mayor, I go to the inn to sleep and wake up and he still isn't in jail.
>>342906132
try to no sleep in the town after talking to them. i played some time ago but irrc just use the lamp to switch from day to night then wander on the boat until day comes up. if its really not working maybe its a bug and you are basically fucked.
>>342847934
This is so down to earth and coherently written. good shit
>>342905958
As much as I love VI, it's monster designs in general were shit. No wonder monster taming wasn't as big a deal as in V where everything was cute or cool looking.
>>342903637
easy to pirate in pc/ds/android. square will only pay attention to the sales of the new tittles. so thats where you should invest if you wanna support the franchise.
>>342906519
I use the lamp, it becomes night, I talk to these guys, go to the inn and make it day. When it becomes day nothing changes.
Shitty phone picture. Do I do anything other then talk to these guys?
>>342891296
The anatomy of that priest is fucked up.
>>342906985
Can you not screenshot with your phone?
>>342903779
It's definitely still available on the square online store.
>>342907153
Wait I'm retarded ignore me
>>342907153
It always gets fucked up, in my gallery the picture was normal but uploading it it turned upside down.
>>342906715
If by down to earth you mean dumbed down for 16 year olds on /v/, then yes, I agree.
>>342906985
ah i see. you are playing upside down silly
>>342906849
Better update that since VII and VIII 3DS are being brought over to the West. Heroes II is also coming West side as well.
>>342891296
>>342897714
Hoo, that doujin's nice. Translating. Been awhile since I've done a fan-translation of DQ porn.
>>342846921
Rocket Slime 2 English release WHEN
>>342907623
We got Rocket Slime 2, but not 1 and 3
>>342906849
Don't forget Joker 3
>>342906849
>removing the ghost of Iwata
shit list
is anyone else interested in builders
>>342907618
much appreciated.
>>342849940
Huh, Art style is similar enough. Can Toriyama decide to regress to some of his older styles at will?
>>342906734
You talking shit about Axesaurus?
>>342909412
People are good at imitating his style, this was by a different artist.
>>342909412
speaking of art styles. its always cool how even tho they all go in different directions the creativity of toriyama still shines thru. even with a realistic approach there certain cartoony quality to it that makes it charming.
>>342909412
Anyone have that image that points out each of Toriyama's different styles?
>>342909412
His style changes every 5-10 years. The new designs for DQVII look different from the old ones.
>>342851034
I went through IX mostly solo and loved it.Specially for playing a qt angel waifu
Getting many skills and wiping enemies solo was very satisfying, specially because of all the customization options. What made me mad was that many sets were incomplete. Such a small thing, would have made a big difference.
I would also have enjoyed making the main character more unique, both in skills and appearance. Such as getting back wings and halo through the adventure.
>>342864674
I love the Dragon Quest series but goddamn I hate DQ2
>mandatory items are fucking invisible
Absolutely inexcusable.
>>342843254
I loved this game, but everything about the dialogue and written notes were absolutely ridiculous. In a good way, but goddamn. Every quest description and item had alliteration.
>>342910872
Early>famous=transitional>contemporary
>>342911187
Think of it this way. DQ went away from invisible items and hidden walls in its second game. Final Fantasy is still doing it well into the DS/PS3 era. And even then, DQII really only has the seals and the world leaf which requires you to look at a guide. I had to look at a guide half a dozen times just playing FFVII for fear of missing a materia. And this is the most expensive JRPG ever made.
>>342897474
Anon... It's been 7 years (soon to be 8) since IX last came. I think it's fine that he remakes it. Especially now that WFC is dead, and most features are forever lost.
>>342911310
That's modern SquareEnix for you.
>>342911452
I agree with that other guy. I'd rather they just put that money into bringing over Dragon Quest X. Which is better than DQIX in every way. Even single player story and quests. Even if they remade DQIX to have the graphical standard of Dragon Quest VIII and on, it still wouldn't fix the major problems of the game. Tied to grottoes, multiplayer locked content and ruining the alchemy system.
>>342899284
>Jojo's Quest
>Part 3
>See >>342891334
Clever.
>>342910872
early toriyama all the way
>>342911452
>It's been 7 years
damm i kept replaying it so it hasn't aged in my memory. if we do get a remake ill go for a solo run.
>>342911351
>there's no invisible item bullshit beyond II
Is this true? Even for the gbc version of III?
>>342911727
I love early Toriyamas humor except for the random toilet stuff.
>>342911310
>>342911507
Is there a fanslation to take the terrible accents out of the DS games?
>>342911507
>Modern
Man they've been doing it since the beginning
>>342911905
gbc version had hidden items
>>342911905
The only other invisible item I can think of is mini medals in Dragon Quest III. And that's only the GBC version as you said.
>>342911727
Post more, early toriyama is the best.
>>342912009
Nay, boyo. You bes' be gettin' back tae tha official localization noo.
>>342912321
we had a great toriyama thread on /ic/ awhile back. maybe we should start a new one.
>>342911727
Early Toriyama is much more expressive, its great.
>Dragon Quest thread lasts this long
Is there hope?
>>342912539
There's a really good piece he did during DBZ, early DBZ. It's Goku and Gohan on a mechanical walker. It just shows that Torriyama REALY knows his mechs. He's also said it's his favorite piece.
>>342913082
He's done a lot of other stuff. I'm curious why he doesn't make a manga focused on crazy capsule designs. Though that's kind of what Dragon Quest Joker is doing.
>>342845520
Only because of DQ4's Healie
>>342913082
Why hasn't Toriyama made a Mecha series yet?
>>342881827
I know this is a dragon Quest thread but is there an equivalent version of this for the final fantasy series?
>>342912985
once VII, heroes II, and builders are out we may et enough buzz for a general and grow from there.
>>342913421
>his wish became true
>>342895530
I also wouldn't mind if they put some content inbetween the end of the game and the post game instead of 50 levels of grinding.
Is the west gonna get Heroes 2? I enjoyed the first one decently enough.
Also glorious HD Jessica tits goddamn.
>>342913460
Because it would end up as a cross between GT Gundam 79.
>>342913913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErJMYlmR80
I fucking love DQ4. Absolute favorite.
>>342913809
>General
/vg/ and /vr/ shouldn’t even exist.
>>342913542
It would be too big. Also, there would be endless arguments over which version of each game is best. Not to mention people bitching about half the games not even deserving to be on the list.
DQ is really one of the few series that you can make a list like this. Because all the remakes are good and the fanbase doesn't try to be contradictory over every little detail.
>>342914005
>GT and Gundam 79
How so?
>>342912985
DQ threads often go over 300 replies. Possibly because they are rare. Or because they don't have shitposting. Though I'm sure FFXV Kun will be here soon enough.
>>342914087
I would agree with you if /vg/ didn't contain the tripfags and make it easier to collect information in one spot (pastebins upon pastebins goddamn) and if /vr/ wasn't a better, if slower, browsing experience than /v/.
If anything, /vp/ is the /v/ board that's too specialized.
>>342912009
Why would you want to do a stupid thing like that?
>>342914134
True
>>342861741
DQ6 has severe "lack of clear objective" issues.
And yeah, leveling up the classes is so easy that it kinda doesn't matter what you're using and with which character.
It's a gorgeous game. And it has some great moments.
But yeah. It's not among my favorites.
>>342914080
>every english version has some flaw
>IV is my favorite DQ
>will never be able to play IV with improved graphics, good script, and party chat
Kill me
Should I stick with minstrel for MC on IX or is there a better option? I like the class because it can do magic and decent physical damage and decent speed, but I don't know if I'm wasting my time with it or not.
I'm at level 30 right now, and I'm at the part where you fall off the train into Wormwood
>>342915319
>every english version has some flaw
Same can be said of FF IV as well. It was so good playing the SFC hardtype version in Japanese. You should consider studying Japanese too if you really like a lot of Japanese games and are sick of shit localizations or no localizations.
>>342915319
the mobile version of 4 has party chat.
>>342915663
are you going solo? if not re-classing its not really necessary to beat the main game. its better to wait until you can farm metal king slimes so grinding levels its effective.
>>342915920
it's also the mobile version, though.
That's a big flaw.
>>342915792
>>342915920
IOS also has the shitty script of the DS version. Also fuck playing mobile.
Someone was making a hack of the DS version that uses the NES script with some minor edits in the case of censorship. Maybe someday.
>>342915752
Well, FFIV DS was fine in gameplay. Its flaw is the bad story and voices. Which the Japanese version also had.
>>342910872
Why in the flying fuck does this image still have the GT picture of Dragonball? It's been floating around for like 4 fucking years and people still post it when it's wrong
>>342843254
In what order should I play the DQ games?
>>342916485
>Is it lunch time yet?
>>342916537
Either
>Release order
Or
>Start at III, V, or VIII
>>342916537
Release order is a good idea. Though you might lag at 6... and specially 7.
>>342916106
I'm not going solo, but what is a viable class for that?
>>342916537
I started with V on sfc/snes.
>>342871284
>that pic
FUCK
>>342917167
Didn't notice until you pointed it out.
>>342917268
Puns and visual cues is all this franchise has for story telling. And I love it.
>>342917167
>>342917268
Dumbass here, what?
>>342917798Hero and Wife of Choice get turn to stone, their kids grows up without them to raise them, and then get kidnapped.
>>342917798The picture is a statue, and you get turned into a statue in V.
>>342917982
>>342917982
Shit, can't believe I didn't realize that.
>>342871284
>>342919238
I can't parse the rest but I'm pretty sure the Daughter is saying "Mommy is cool!" or something like that.
>>342859335
You don't even know, senpai
>>342920304
Your file name says yet another thing about him.Protagonist. Not the Hero.
>>342920384
>all official art of him has him wielding a staff instead of a sword like other DQ protags
it's the little details
>>342861650
Hold the fuck up, there is a DQM:J 2 let alone 3? How the fuck have I not known this?
>>342919386
"Huh?"
"This was she standing in such a Pillar Man-like pose?"
"Mommy's so cool!"
>>342920772
2 was even localized
the problem was that around the same time the localized version launched an updated version called Joker 2 Pro was released in Japland and that wasn't brought here
>>342847934
>Mentions the hairdo trope
>Akira Toryama hair designs
I hope the creator of this burns in a small pan fire caused by spitting fat landing on a kitchen towel, but there's a sink nearby and the water's running so after a short panic and some singed fingers everything will be resolved and a lesson about the administration of proper kitchen safety will be served.
>>342920981
>Huh? This was
Let me try that again.
"Huh? Was she standing in such a Pillar Man-like pose?"
"Mommy's so cool!"
>>342920981
Hah! Thank you. I shouldn't have given up so soon.
>>342921039
That is a very appropriate and sound justice anon.
>>342913542
There are a few flowcharts floating around in FF generals that are pretty useful for beginners, but I don't have it on me.
>>342913542
GBA remakes for 1+2
DS for 3 and 4
GBA for 5 (with sound patch)
SNES for 6
That's all you need to know. The rest you can either do original system or PC release or PSN or whatever, not a big diff.
>>342921810
A sound patch exists for 6 too, and it fixes a few glaring gameplay bugs like magic resist doing nothing.
>>342921810
>GBA remakes
>That awful DS version of III
>That very different but not recommended for first timers DS version of IV
Disgusting.
>>342921982
It's not that great. The sound still doesn't sound as good as the SNES version's.
>>342921982
Yeah, but I feel like the GBA remake didn't add much. 5's remake has the extra Jobs, at least.
For 1 it was just a matter of preference, but anything other than the original works. I mean, I've played it several times... but some things can be hard to get used to. Loading times for text, for one. And lack of re-targetting when the monster died.
For 2 anything that makes the game not SaGa is good. Keep SaGa in SaGa.
>>342922295
Well unless there's a patch for the SNES version that fixes some really blatant bugs I can deal with slightly worse sound.
>>342922392
It's not just slightly, but hey, up to you. And I think there is a bug fix patch for the SNES version. Don't know why someone would care though, I never really run into undesirable bugs. In that game. Aside from the blind status just being a pair of sunglasses, any other glitch I have to initiate myself.
>>342922589
It bugs me when there's stats that literally do nothing. It's like they never even bothered testing the game.
>>342922589
>I never really run into undesirable bugs
EVADE DOES NOTHING
>>342922723
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. FF VI is such an easy game I never really notice. But yeah, I remember now, evade was fucked up in that game and Magic block was fucked in FF VII.
Just finished V . Really damn good i had to say. Feels like an adventure.
>tfw you'll never go on a journey with your twins children to save your wife
>>342922895
>TFW after eight years of being a rock, I give my son a sword and daughter her mother's old sexy bustier
>>342911727
So it's not rape if you throw money at them afterwards?
>>342922895
I love the original, but I also had a great time in the DS one, getting all possible Party Chat dialogue. Just doing a world tour with the family!
I also allowed myself to pick someone other than Bianca for the very first time.
>>342901502
Get outta here you Slime Justice Warrior!
>>342922895
I don't know why people say not to use both your wife and daughter, they don't have that many overlapping spells. And the ones they do both have are pretty fucking good ones.
Goodian, Mason, and Archie were real MVPs for me at various points though
>>342911727
Haha. No idea how they handled the pun in that translation as I can't read French, but it was funny in Japanese at least.
>>342922978
>>342923186
You and your wife doesnt age a bit makes it pretty sad. Seeing everyone grow old while you still the same was pretty harsh.Dat part when you were force to see the kid from the guy who bought you grow up. He was about the same age as your son.That shit really makes me feel sad.
I just realized I never did the bonus dungeon in DQV
Welp time to go hammer that out real quick
>>342925779good luck with the last T'n'T board
>>342925830
I've got a gorillion extra TnT ticketsworst case I'll savescum the everloving fuck out of it, I didn't have too much trouble with the other boards
>>342926071
>using tickets
you didn't beat the board in the dread realm
>>342926185
I might've? It's been a few years since I beat the game.
I might be a bit pleb in asking this, but I don't want to overgrind early on.
Are there guides that tell what level I should be at certain points of the game?DQ IV btw
>>342927052
If you just fight enemies as you see them and don't go out of your way to fight, you'll be fine.
>>342927052
Don't run from fights and you should always be at the right level unless you're hopelessly awful at RPGs
>Get to the end of the bonus dungeon in DQV
>Estark
I suddenly feel very, very underleveled for this
I assume I'm gonna get my ass raped considering my family is only level 35-37 but it's worth a shot
>>342920304
>>342859335
>>342859867
>>342859583
>>342860004
>>342923995
You know how we could make DQV even more depressing?Nuzlocke run
>tfw love the DQ designs and the history behind the series gives me these nostalgic comfy 80s/90s anime feels
>Makes me really want to get into the games
>Always hear they're kinda light on story and character and it's about "the adventure" and just letting you go in the world
>Sounds like it's just grindy RPG gameplay
Tell me I've heard wrong. Give me somewhere to start with the series /v/. I really want to get into this series. I love the designs so much and have a hard on for stuff like this that branches out in so many different directions with spinoffs and sequels but keeps a coherent style and world.
>>342928515
Give them a shot, they're not that grindy, earlier ones aside. Even when you do need to grind, you can just hunt Metal Slimes and other metal monsters which give a lot of EXP. They run often and are hard to kill, but there are ways to take them down somewhat easily in most of the games.
Start either with the first and go from there (if you emulate it, and emulator's turbo function will drastically decrease the annoyance of grinding), or play either III, IV, V, or VIII (though maybe wait for the 3DS version of VIII).
>>342928515
Dragon quest did storytelling right. You only know stuffs from what you learn from talking with npc and adventuring. There are no secondary views telling you what the fuck going on at the other end of the world and you just don't fucking know where to go unless you read and explore.
>>342928351
That went about as well as expected
I think I'll get 5 or so levels and try again
>>342929374if you really wanna pull your hair out,you actually get a knick-knack for beating him in I believe 17 turns
>>342929495
Oh goodie. I think I need some better monsters to be able to swap my family out for, the only one I have right now that seems to be worth anything against Estark is my Archdemon.
>>342929323
See that's what kinda worries me to be honest. I love the IDEA of that. And I know you're all gonna think I'm a faggot for not being able to enjoy it but I just kinda get bored and lost in those situations. I need some kind of flair and theatrics to the story. It's why Final Fantasy pre-IV is hard for me to play through as well.
I know I'm the cancer killing RPGs but while the idea of having to actually explore the world to learn about it is appealing to me, PLAYING that is just a dull experience.
>>342871380
You think that's weird?
In DQV you can catch another monster tamer.
Yes a guy with the same job as you, you can catch him.
>>342929696
Not entirely related, but it reminds me of SMT I. WhenChaos Herowanted to fuse himself with a demon, Law Hero was against it. However, no one cares if you give some jewels to a religious nut and fuse him with a Lamia.
>>342929696
>Still can't get owlbear in any version of DQV
I cri
>>342929692
Just go play V or VIII faggot
If you still don't like it after those then you don't like it, no big deal
>>342914134
>They gave Luida a southern accent in the English version
It figures. Oh well, at least it wasn't British, the British VAs sound pretty awful in DQH.
>>342874080
>Link
I think you mean Trunks.
>>342928515
Outside of 1 and 2 you don't have to grind. The idea being that if you aren't a guide following retard you'll need to explore which means encounters and finding chests and such which will get you to sufficient levels. Though you still don't need to grind even if you do know where to go since the games aren't typically that hard outside of the midstory boss and final areas
Will DQ Heroes 2 have changable outfits to unlock? I really missed that in DQ:H.