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Why do people hate the vita?Seriously it has such a diverse and vast library I don't


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Why do people hate the vita?
Seriously it has such a diverse and vast library I don't understand why more people aren't interested in it.
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>>342709283
Nintendofags angry about any sort of competition.
Casualscum switching to mobile.
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>>342709283
Smartphones killed it.
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>>342709283
I don't think anyone hates it, it is just irrelevant.

It isn't completely dead. Japanese games often come as PS4/Vita pairs.

But it isn't truly alive. It has no support from Sony, and I can't imagine its selling much at all anymore. That said, as long as games keep coming who gives a shit either way? Owners can keep playing, nonowners aren't missing much
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>>342709283
Jewish memory card prices in an era of cheap as fuck digital storage, shitty weeb and indie games is almost all it has, smartphones.
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I enjoy my Vita, but the usual complaints I hear from friends that sold me it or people online is

>Niche games people aren't interested in and general ignorance of the platform's library
>Lacking western support
>Lacking support from Sony
>Shitposting 3DS only faggots
>kusoge or low quality "anime games"

Finished Ray Gigant recently. Hope that Va11-hall-a gets ported soon, it was pretty nice on PC but I generally enjoy VNs on handhelds more often. Waiting on Shiren the Wanderer
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>>342709659
There are still plenty of high quality Japanese games on it.
Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Ys, Trails of
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>>342709283
cause you can't hack it to play vita "backups" yet
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I like my Vita, but Sony really should have known better than to challenge Nintendo on the handheld front. PSP getting bitch slapped by the DS wasn't enough I guess, they had to come back for more.
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>>342709739
Except most Westeners don't give a shit about weeb games. Including myself.
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>>342709689
Even if I like my vita more I like both handhelds and think they're both great devices with solid libraries. I hate how handhelds are dying to smart phones though
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>>342709786
>PSP
>getting bitch slapped on any front
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>>342709798
>Japanese games I don't like are weeb games
Eric meme I love this weeb buzzword.
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>>342709283
because vita has no game
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It's a meme and people like to kick it when it's essentially down from Sony basically openly abandoning it.

It actually has a great library.
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>>342709739
>DQ
>vita
minecraft is not Dragon Quest
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Haven't played in like 2 months.

The dungeons in P2 was pissing me off and was a fucking chore.

Maybe i should continue FFX on that or start GR
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>>342710124
Builders isn't Minecraft and it also has Heroes 2
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welp, the first couple of dumps made with the blackfin thing are making the rounds now, so we'll see if anything comes from it soon enough.
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They don't like Japanese games very much.
I love my Vita to pieces but if I weren't so into niche Japanese titles then the system would have very little content for me that I couldn't find better elsewhere. I can list off what games I enjoy on the system and what I'm looking forward to and they'd glance over them as low quality weeb trash. Just as well, because I don't give many big-name western games a second glance, and I'm sure I'd enjoy at least a few if I just gave them a chance.
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>vast library
In Japan, maybe, America and Australia got shafted. That and the DRMemory Cards were fucking trash - disabling the ability to go out and purchase 128GB+ SD cards for much cheaper, and getting licenses for the fucking thing would've helped this along.
But no, Sony are greedy pricks who are out for all the money, and even if it does decently, they will drop it like a brick if it doesn't sell 'well'.
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>>342710203
>musoushit
>DQ
everything vita has are shitty spinoff
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>>342710292
Everytime I see someone comment on the memory cards they have absolutely no idea how bad it was for the PSP.
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>>342709283
No games
Jew memory
Locked down system with only shitty tough to setup PSP cfw
Uncomfortable to hold for any dual analog games without a grip
Weeb reputation-reminder that only a small percent of people in the us actually are weebs. Even then most don't want a vita because they have a 3ds.
N o g a m e s
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If you love Japanese game so much, you should buy 3DS
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>>342710382
>No games
Quality meme
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>>342710392
I don't want a 240p system though.
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>>342710392
Why not both? I have both and I love them both.
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>>342709283
>I don't understand why more people aren't interested in it.
Not enough Western games. Which is funny because Japanese games are predominantly popular here. Also, lack of recognizable titles. Most IPs on the Vita are new or continuations of unpopular games.
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>>342710292
EB Games and JB have stopped selling PSV games. They don't even sell accessories.
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>>342710432
then I should play on PC
PC also have shitty weeb games like vita has
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>>342710484
I know. It's pissing me the fuck off. I adore what the Vita has in it, but right now, I can do the same shit on a portable emulator for a helluva lot cheaper. It's a real shame. It's the infinite disappointment machine.
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>>342709283
I was a late PSP owner, I had bought a DS first and was happy I did since I wasn't jaded about graphics while I was exploring some of those titles.

After getting a PSP there was lots of great games to catch up on, but overrall the library was kinda small, still no regrets because it introduced me to Patapon.

Vita I've been cautiously avoiding due to all the talk of how badly its doing and that developers or sony weren't making games for it. That effectively says to me that they're just killing their own console or planning to release another one.

I was mad jelly about games like Gravity rush, but that's on PS4 now so I still don't have a strong incentive to buy one. I feel bad for it.
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>>342710507
pc doesn't have portability though
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I love my vita!
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>>342710575
what is tablet PC
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>>342710678
>tablet
No.
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>>342709283
I don't hate the vita and already have all the vita games I cared about (on vita itself or on other systems in case the game is multiplat).

To be honest I just want a native vita hack other than rejuvenate to emulate older systems.

Nowadays I just use my vita to emulate GBA titles.
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>>342710426
Its because its true. Ask any normal person if they'd be interested in playing some of the Vita's flagship titles like titty ninjas or moeshit RPG #72, or some mediocre indie game better enjoyed on their phone.
Almost the entire library of the vita is already on other platforms. Indies on PC and ps4, vn's on PC, and rpg's on PC and ps4.
Nobody needs to buy a vita, so why should they?
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>>342710817
Because it's portable.
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>>342710817
Kill yourself nintendrone
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>>342710716
You can attach KB or controller to them.
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>>342710859
>>342710842
>D-DELETE THIS
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I can't pirate games on it.
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>>342710842
Sos my cock. Wanna suck it now?
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>>342711087
sure
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>>342710913
Kill yourself nintendrone
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>>342711087
It depends on how big it is.
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>>342710737
It's pretty nice that VHBL still works on 3.60.
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>>342710878
That's great, it doesn't mean the same thing as a hand held system.

If it did, people would use it in the same way. But it doesn't, so they don't.

Maybe one day this will get off the ground.
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>>342710913
Fuck off nintendrone.
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>>342711138
>MY CONSOLE SUCKS SO YOURS DOES TOO
>DELETE THIS
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>>342710434
I have both and I don't love vita desu
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>>342711138
>>342711241
>b-b-b-b-b-but Nintendo! WAAAAAAAAAAAAH DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW *cries*
Heh
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>>342711307
i have both and I love vita desu
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>>342709283
It's shit, that's why.
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>>342711457
I don't want to interrupt your falseflagging and shitposting but the Vita has gotten more games than the 3DS for the past couple of years now.
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>>342711456
sup autismo
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this game will be my 3rd vita game
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>>342711553
That's right vita bro, you tell him!
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>>342711646
Shocker.
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>>342711757
I guess that means you won't stop shitposting then. It's fine I guess, not that I'm expecting anything else from /v/.
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Add another tally to the shit thread count.
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>>342711646
What's this game about anyways besides the obvious waifus?
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>>342709283
>Why do people hate the vita?
I don't, i'm just too poor to buy one so I shitpost about it.

I mean it's 450 bucks with an 8gb card where I live, shit's fucking impossible m8.
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>>342711646
right is obviously best girl
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>>342711924
Buy a 3ds and hack it. Ez pz loads of games and fun. Full backwards compatibility, and emulators with hacks that run great. Toss in a cheap DS flashcard and you got the greatest handheld.
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vita games too expensive here.
every used copies cost 30+ bucks
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>>342711646
>Choosing anything other than Blue Ocean

>>342711904
You can't waifu the girls in the cover
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>>342712028
>3DS
No.
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>>342712014
>>342712050
>not liking blonde Finn girl
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>>342712029
>>342711924
You've gotta get the fuck out of Australia. Or get a US friend that can mail shit to you.
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>>342709283
>diverse and vast library

Post some
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Vita probably the platform I enjoy the most. There not being games is a meme.

However, the games being very specific in their target audience is not a lie. If your not a weeaboo you wont enjoy the vita, but that doesnt mean that it somehow has no games.

Its just that the majority of them only suit the tastes of weebs.
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>>342712143
>>>/vg/146499091
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>>342712245
>If your not a weeaboo you wont enjoy the vita,
I'm not a weeaboo, and I enjoy it.
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>>342709283
-Most of the games are weeb shit. I have a high tolerance for weeb -but, shit is shit, and weeb shit is the worst shit.
-Price was always a problem. Even bigger problem was the price of the official memory SD cards.
-Eats battery life to play it normally.
-Hurts to hold it in your hand for long periods of time. Had to buy a special grip thing to get it to not be a chore to hold.
-Years later, the 3DS - a system with far inferior graphics and screen quality - has better games, is easier to hold for long periods of time, has better battery life, and had MUCH better redesigns.
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>>342712028
I'm not interested in the 3DS though, Vita has like a hundred games I want to play and SMT is probably the only thing I care about in the 3ds.

Also emulator will be playable in a year or two
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>>342712143
Durr, weeb game #472 is on vita, that's like, all you need of course.
Its being ported to PC but it doesn't matter because vita is portable.
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>>342711646
Is this the Waifu version of Pokemon? Gotta catch 'em all? Can you trade waifus too?
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>>342712412
Localization when?
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>>342712412
Then stop being poor
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>>342712379
>Most of the games are weeb shit
Seriously think we're getting the fanbase mixed up with the game selection. Either that, or I don't know what "weeb" means anymore.
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>>342712429
waifu version of Pokemon Snap
You can be JAV directer
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>>342712125
>preferring cowtits over modest chest
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>>342709283
Becaue it memory stick/cards are expensive as hell and there's literally no reason for it to be that expensive.

the lack of third party memory sticks is also really fucking sad. I want a 64gb card but they cost a fortune.
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>>342712379
>Most of the games are weeb shit.
This argument is so misused that it means absolutely nothing anymore.
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>>342712485
2017
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>>342709283
>
WHY ARE THE MEMORY CARDS SO EXPENSIVE.

It makes no fucking sense, don't they realize they kill the sales of the console with that? You can get a 32gb card for like 15 dollars, meanwhile sony charges 10 times that for less, it's just retarded
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>>342712873
>don't they realize they kill the sales of the console
Sony literally doesnt care about sales of the vita.
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>>342709283

Because I can't pirate and not enough sales
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If Sony don't care enough to even try and salvage it why should Anyone else?
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>>342709283
>Seriously it has such a diverse and vast library
I see nothing but weebshit. I don't see any racing sims, any long puzzle games, any great fps's, any good multiplayer games.
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>>342713670
>racing
NFS
>Puzzle
Didn't Zero something just release?

>fps
Killzone

>multiplayer
No idea I don't play multiplayer
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>>342713670

>racing sims
Do you hate fun?
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>>342713670
Maybe look at the library before posting retard. You can literally find all of those by typing "PS Vita genrename" into google.
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Smartphone and generic niche weeb shite
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>>342713851
zero escape?
it's vita/3ds/pc maltiprat
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>>342713851
>>342713950
I said "good."

also
>No idea I don't play multiplayer
And that is why the vita failed, weeb.
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>>342713670
>Racing sims
>on handhelds
Why would you expect this? Wouldn't it be better to have that on PC, so you can use your steering wheel peripherals?
>Puzzle games
What constitutes a "long" puzzle game? Can you give an example? There are the likes of Puyo Puyo and Lumines on the Vita.
>FPS
>handheld
See my earlier statement. FPS games on handhelds don't happen often, and they seldom succeed.

>nothing but weebshit
Nonsense.
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>>342714071
>>342714096
Oh, and Killzone Mercenary.
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>>342714071
You actually only said good multiplayer games and that also doesn't have anything to do with still being able to find everything on google you illiterate nigger.
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>>342714096
>What constitutes a "long" puzzle game?
The Witness
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>>342714167
Why would I want to buy a Vita for Killzone Mercenary when I can play 2,3, or Shadowfall?

Also
>1 game

Alright where are the rest? I need at least 5 big multiplayer fps's. I play games not visual novels.
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>>342714284
That seems pretty expansive. I would expect that on PC, not a handheld.
>>342714405
So you're complaining that a handheld doesn't have games that are primarily released on PC. Alright.
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>>342714405
>I play games not visual novels.

Then you're shit out of luck, because that's all the Vita has. The hilarious thing is, they're not even good visual novels.
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>>342714009
Sure but if there's that then you can find other puzzle games.

Also Vita has JRPGs and Rhythm games, among other things the 3DS doesn't have or barely has.
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>>342714405
I found a simple solution to your problem. Don't buy a vita. The vita is at the end of it's lifecycle, and it's also heavily supported by a niche audience that you are not part of. Neither sony nor them will miss you.
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>>342714484
>JRPG
3DS has SMT4 and EO
Vita has shitty moe panty quest
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>>342714460
Steins Gate, F/SN, Hollow Ataraxia, Higurashi among others.

I'd say the Vita is fine when it comes to VNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtmdnB95Uxc
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>>342714567

Vita has plenty of good DRPGs like EO

It has nothing to compare to SMT though. Persona trash doesn't even come close to 4, 4A, DeSu 1 & 2 and Soul Hackers.
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>>342714567
>SMT4

Well I should've said good ones. My bad there.

>>342714679
Persona>>SMT, there's a reason nobody cares about it anymore.

I agree DeSu is great though, the others are shit.
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>>342710352
Memory stick duos were always a fairly respected medium. It was at a time where people were still battling to make the "memory card". Unsurprisingly SD won. The same argument could be made by making the PS3 with a bluray drive. It's a battle for the win.
The battle is already won, Sony had no ground for making another medium but greed.
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>>342714650
Those are all, quite literally, dog shit though.

Call me when it gets some quality VN's that have translations that aren't riddled with memes.
Pic related is an example of a quality VN with an elder god tier translator.
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>>342714787

Persona is terrible, it fails as a JRPG and it fails as a VN. It excels at nothing but drawing in entry-level weebs.
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>>342714798
> I hate handheld posters. They're literally love mobile games but only if they're japanese. Seriously fuck off all of you.

To be fair, it's not like westerners are making quality handheld games. So it's mostly just japanese that are still making good handheld games these days.
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>>342715017
> Persona is terrible, it fails as a JRPG and it fails as a VN. It excels at nothing but drawing in entry-level weebs.

It succeeds in beating the shit out of SMT in sales, in popularity as well as review scores. Stay salty.
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>>342711456
>2 project divas
> Danganropa 1 and 2
>2 toukidens and soul sacrafice
>2 ateliers
>Buyers remorse

Why are buy the sequels and updates if you regretted buying the originals?
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>>342715238
Cause it's not even his vita screenshots. He just took it and added buyer's remorse words on it so he can repost it over and over and over for the past 2 years.
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>>342715164

>Sales and reviews are the sole indicator of quality
So how're you finding Uncharted 4, senpai?
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>>342711301
>>342711336
Epic posts, guys
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>>342715310
Personally, I found Uncharted 4 to be very very good. I loved it.
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>>342715164
>sales
retarded casuals
>review scores
goobergate
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>>342710382
>Locked down system with only shitty tough to setup PSP cfw
In what way? Let's ignore the CFW nonsense and the only leg you have to stand on is you can't have JP DLC on a US system on a US account, it's tied to the region account and that region only..
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>>342715382
>>sales
>retarded casuals

Since when did sales mean being casual or not?

>>review scores
>goobergate

If it was just high review scores from gaming journalists, you might have a point. However it's gotten really good reviews from gamers as well, so your entire point is now moot.
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Cause Dark Alex is a faggot now and wont hack it.
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>these salty vita fags all pissy bc it has no games anyone wants to play
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>>342709851
I'd say it got bitch-slapped by piracy pretty hard
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>>342715457

>Proprietary memory cards that work only in Vita
>Forced to use content manager
>Content manager doesn't let you backup save files (but PS+ does)
>Content manager does not let you delete DLC
>Cannot use more than one PSN account on one memory card.

Everything about digital games on the Vita is frustrating. It's as if they don't want me to buy content just because of the chore that comes from managing it.
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>>342715824

Too bad game sales for the PSP were still better than the Vita.
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>>342715634
Every vita thread is a circlejerk of vitafags defending their no games by saying
>BUT NINTENDO
>YOURE A NINTENDRONE
>ITS JUST FOR WEEBS, YOU WOULDNT UNDERSTAND
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>>342714787
>Persona>>SMT
>DeSu is great though, the others are shit.
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Vita could have been great. Legitimately great specs, a solid form factor, decent UI.

Sony fucked up by making proprietary memory cards and making it too fucking expensive.
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>>342715945

Sony fucked it up because they had no games normalfags care about

Where the fuck is San Andreas Stories?
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>>342715861
This guy gets it. Sony, in an effort to curb piracy, curbed usability of their system by not allowing proper affordable sd cards, and made transferring stuff a drawn out hassle
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>>342714484
>Vita
>Good JRPG's
My favorite meme.

>Good 3DS JRPG's we have localized right now.

Bravely Default
Bravely Second
Stella Glow
Legend of Legacy
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth
Pokemon ORAS
Pokemon X&Y
Rune Factory
Monster Hunter 3
Monster Hunter 4
Monster Hunter X
Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance
Tales of the Abyss
Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Etrian Odyssey IV
Etrian Odyssey Untold
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Zelda: Majora's Mask
Fantasy Life

>Good Vita JRPG's we have localized right now

???
Can't think of a single one tbqhwy
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>>342716198
this is some home brand bait
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>>342715927
And posting games sometimes

I agree there's way too much "UR A NINTODDLER" bullshit instead of actually defending it
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>>342716141

>muh reviews
Think for yourself faggot, don't appeal to authority.
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>>342716282
You're comparing mainstream AAA games to JRPGS.

I'm comparing niche JRPGS from the same company that are pretty much the same since one is a spin-off of the other.

Persona does everything better than SMT
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>>342716392

Persona isn't niche, it's completely entry-level. Casuals can play it, but they'd get rekt in the first hour of any SMT game.

Don't be retarded, the only reason Persona scores better is because it's more accessible.
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>>342716282
How the fuck else can you support the idea Persona does or is better?
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>>342716392
>Persona
>Niche

Top kek, stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>342716482
>SMT fags think their games are hard

pls go
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>>342716530

They're not difficult, they're merely not babbified.
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>>342714567
Are you seriously trying to make a point of vita not having enough quality JRPGs?
Come on, even shitposters should realize how stupid that is.
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>>342716482
>Persona isn't niche
It appeals to a particular crowd. It is niche.
>it's completely entry-level
This changes nothing.
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>>342716530
They're harder than your school dating sim which was created for dribbling autists like yourself, that's for sure.

>>342716674
>It appeals to a particular crowd. It is niche.
You clearly don't know what niche means.

FPS games aren't niche because they appeal to the FPS crowd you stupid cunt.
Neither are platformers, or RTS's or any other genre. Certain games in said genre are what become known as niche, not the genre itself. Persona is a well known casual magnet series and is babies entry level JRPG.
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>>342716814
>All this salt

nigga you saltier than the Dead Sea
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>>342716890

not an argument
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>>342716890
Nice comeback autismo. Try actually refuting anything I said.
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Waiting on Romancing SaGa 2 and performing a sacrifice for SaGa Scarlet Grace.

Who would have known that the Vita would become the JRPG machine it is.
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>>342716929
>>342716949
>Implying I'm arguing

y'all are arguing at each other
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>>342716981
3DS factually has more and better JRPG's than the Vita.

Straight from metacritic.

3DS has 29 games with a green (75+) rating.
Vita has 16
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>>342717230

What does the 3DS even have that's worth playing out of SMT? Bravely?
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Mainly the memory cards, I love my Vita that I got 2 or so months ago, but fuck these memory cards.

It wouldn't be so damn bad if they held more memory since the cheapest viable option available (8 GB) gets filled up pretty fast. Hell, that can only hold a whopping 2 games and DLC.

Then there's the problem that certain games either 1)only see a physical release on PS4 (Digimon Cyber Sleuth) or 2)only see an English release on PS4 (Nights of Asure and the upcoming SRW:MD)
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>>342717285
Careful, he might make the argument that zelda is a jrpg.
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>>342717337

Cyber Sleuth only got a western PS4 physical release?
I had no idea.
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3 days left
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>>342717285
List has already been posted.

>>342717373
Don't use my reaction images you little bitch.
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>>342716198
> localized

>He plays japanese role playing games
>localized
>>342717230
>Metacritic

You mean english only games?
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>>342716198
>Tales of the Abyss
Why play this if you can play Innocence and Hearts
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>>342717391
Yep. It's available for both, but here (in the US anyway) only the PS4 got a physical release while the Vita is digital only.

It does have an Asian physical release with English subtitles IIRC.
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>>342717603

Monster Hunter isn't a JRPG. Neither is Zelda.

Pokemon has been getting worse since gen 2 and trash since gen 4.

Persona Q and Etrian Odyssey are better described as DRPGs; and the Vita has tons of quality DRPGs.
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>>342716530
>He didn't play Strange Journey
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>>342717713

That was on the regular DS, though.

So much fucking better than IV, too
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>>342717710
The only bad gen was 3
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What games are you getting next?
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>Vita has games
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>>342717772
I think he was talking about the SMT series as a whole being harder.
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As someone who actually likes playing games regardless of their exclusive system, I'm not put off when vita does get multiplats.

If a neat game were to be a vita exclusive, people make it a point to shitpost in those threads religiously. With a game like ZTD coming out, the amount of shitposting should be rather low compared to ronpaul threads when they were just on the vita.

Also tiddie games are nice to have as a grown up who has to deal with people for a living. Ridiculous things makes me smile the most.
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Thanks guys
I was going to get a vita tomorrow but this thread changed my mind
Dodged a bullet here, 3DS here I come!
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>>342717603
I don't see your name on them, grandma.
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>>342717640
What Japanese games did I miss? I am Setsuna? Which also bombed in Japan because it's shit.

>>342717702
Because Tales of the Abyss is better.

>>342717710
>Monster Hunter isn't a JRPG. Neither is Zelda.
Except they are. ARPG's, DRPG's, IRPG's and whatever other ones that I'm missing are just sub-genre's of RPG's. Both MH and Zelda are quite literally JRPG's.

>Pokemon has been getting worse since gen 2 and trash since gen 4.
Gen 6 got me back into Pokemon though, so you're chatting shit.

>Persona Q and Etrian Odyssey are better described as DRPGs; and the Vita has tons of quality DRPGs.
Vita DRPG's are confirmed garbage though.

Demon Gaze? Shit. DT2? Censored shit.

>>342718012
I'll let you off since I steal all mine anyway.
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It's funny that the vita has more upcoming releases than both the 3DS or Wii U
http://imgur.com/x1qRE3Y
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>>342718114
>Both MH and Zelda are quite literally JRPG's.

No, they're not.
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>>342718114
>Because Tales of the Abyss is better.
Not really but that your opinion i guess
>Censored shit
You can always play the jp version
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The vita is my most played system this generation and I own everything but a xbox one.
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>>342718206
Yes, they are.

>>342718263
>You can always play the jp version
I could, but it would still be shit anyway.
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>>342718206
Idk, MH is kind of an ARPG. Zelda, not so much. Hell, the only Zelda that was closest to an RPG was Zelda 2, and that was close to 30 years ago.
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>>342718114
>zelda and monhun jrpgs
Dude, call of duty has more rpg elements than those games, you're going to tell me that they're wrpgs now? Zelda's more akin to puzzle platformer I'd argue. Monhun is now it's own genre since it sparked so many hunter clones. If shit's going to be so damn vague with you then might as well just call everything a jrpg because there are roles and they're from japan.
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>>342718403

How are Monster Hunter and Zelda like Persona, Final Fantasy, or Star Ocean?
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>>342718403
So just say the game is shit
You don't to say is censored shit
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So what game are you playing right now? Going through my second run of Cold Steel while waiting for GE and ZTD since I finished Odin Sphere not too long ago.
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i hate weeb games so i hate the vita. simple as that
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>>342718574

I've heard mixed things about Cold Steel. Not sure if I should take the dive since I haven't played any Trails game either
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>>342718403
I'd like to know what makes EO better than DT2 in your opinion. As someone who played both, i don't really get why one would be better than the other.
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>>342718496
Call of Duty is an FPS.

ARPG is factually a sub genre of RPG's, just like the rest of the RPG sub genres.

>>342718504
>Play a character which you can roleplay as
>Kill shit and get things that make you more efficient at killing other things.

They're JRPG's no matter how much you dance around it.

>>342718567
But censored shit is a better description for it than just shit.
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>>342718669
Better not get a 3ds then. That things full of weebshit.
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>>342718813

according to you Dark Souls would be the exact same genre as Final Fantasy 10.
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>>342718669
Then you should hate handhelds in general because they're dominated by japanese games.
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>>342718574
Estival Versus, on Ryoki's final hearts mission.
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>>342718875
It is. It's just a more action oriented JRPG. Hence ARPG.
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>>342718813
I see you have alot of fun in those threads anon
Keep going
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>>342718813
But it's got more rpg elements than zelda, you can level up and play roles and even get stronger as you level up. It's more rpg than zelda, a puzzle platformer. So if zelda can be a jrpg then call of duty can be a wrpg by your definition of what an rpg can be.
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So what weapon type are you going to main in God Eater Resurrection?

I'll probably main the charge spear.
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>>342719093
It's decided then. CoD 4 is a WRPG.
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It's surprising people don't just use the report function when the regular shitposter comes in, but would rather get into the same arguments each time.
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I like my Vita but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I can understand the indifference to it but I don't get the hate.

>>342719195
Charge spear. Want a fresh experience since I used Short swords throughout GEB.
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>same shitposter has been at it for 4 years
FOUR FUCKING YEARS. I thought the reisen guy was autistic but this has to be the worst poster on /v/.
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I own one and the major thing that I hate about it is how it's potential is held back by a shitty walled garden approach to memory, file management, and accounts.

>have fun spending 2 to 3 times more than you should on proprietary memory!
>want to manage your filesystem just by slapping your card in your PC? TOO BAD, use this in system management program with terrible UI as a middleman instead!
>oh, and you can't have content from multiple accounts on the same card, so enjoy buying more, and having to go through system format every time you want to switch

This thing would've been perfect if data and accounts worked like the PS3 did.
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>>342720996
>oh, and you can't have content from multiple accounts on the same card, so enjoy buying more, and having to go through system format every time you want to switch

Worst thing was that this wasn't even a thing at launch but was added in a firmware update later on. Fuck my life.
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Vitabros help me. I have 50€ on psn but i do not know what to buy. Odin Sphere + Persona 4g or soul sacrfifice + gravity rush? Or one piece and other games too, what should I buy???
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>>342721393
First combo will keep you busy for a fuck load of time.
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>>342721393
Odin Sphere + P4G seems fine
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>>342721289
Oh yeah, I know a few people that got screwed over by that and lost a lot of save data. I have no idea why they did that because it neutered the hell out of the Vita's region free capabilities. My Vita is tied to a JP account for imports, so I can only easily play english releases with physical skus
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>>342721479
>>342721501
thank you, anons.
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I love my Vita and thats all that matters.
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>>342721634
The Oreshika and four seasons themes are my favorites, so comfy.
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>>342720996
Wait, I gotta deal with this bullshit when I eventually upgrade to a 16GB?

(going up to 16 because I'm trying to go physical as much as possible.)
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>>342722082
You'll have to backup your current memory card through Content Manager assistant, then insert the new card and use the backup on it.
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>>342711456
Gladium at it again, why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>342714974
>i don't like it so it must be littered with memes in the translation
steins;gate official translation is one of the best translations in years
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>>342722082
Yes you will, I had to do it myself yesterday, also, it's better if you pick one game to transfer a time.
Also, when you put the new card you'll keep all your circles, but they'll be empty of data, which makes the whole thing even weirder.
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Because it doesn't. It's best "exclusive" is literally an enhanced port.
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>>342724248

You better not be talking about Persona.
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>>342724285
I hope he's talking about Innocence R, but we know he isn't
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>>342718114
>DT2? Censored shit
Nintendofags are going full retard today or maybe they're just salty about Fates?
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Vita games.

Sony:
Freedom Wars, Soul sacrifice Delta, Wipeout 2048, Sly Cooper 4, Touch My Katamari, Gravity Rush, Uncharted G, Tearaway, Little Big Planet, Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines.

Third Party:
Odin Sphere, Persona 4, Ar Nourge, Digimon Cyber Sleuth, Trails Of Cold Steel, Superbeat Xonic, Ys: Memories Of Celceta, Toukiden, Danganronpa, Superbeat Xonic, DJ Max Technika Tune, Exist Archive, Steins;Gate, Corpse Party Blood Drive, IA/VT, Yomawari, htol#NIQ, Gundam Vs Force, Gundam Breaker 3, Sword Art Online, Tales Of Hearts R, Dead Or Alive Extreme 3, God Eater, Dragon Quest Builders, World Of Final Fantasy, Hatsune Miku, Persona 4 Disco, Code: Realize, Norn 9 Var Commons, Amnesia Memories, Atelier, Dragons Crown, Ys: 8, Ragnarok Odessey Ace, Lost Dimensions, Grand Kingdom, Deception IV: Blood Ties, Dynasty Warriors Next, Root Letter, Pyscho Pass, Muv-Luv Alternative, SD Gundam G Generation Genesis, Summon Night 6.

>no games

And even if some of those games are on different platforms so what? Why would you build a PC and buy a PS3 just to play games designed to be played nativelyon a vita only to miss out on half of them? That's stupid.

The more games the vita gets the more dead it becomes apparently, so it's just going to keep on dying which at the moment means the direct opposite at this point as funny as that is.
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>>342724669
>all those fucking ports available on better hardware

Vita cucks are pathetic.
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>>342718669
>weeb trash
>indie shit
>shovel ware
Way to go champ you just proved how shit the vita is
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>>342712050
>cant waifu the girls on the cover
what the fuck is the point then?
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>>342725090
Meant for
>>342724669
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>>342722259
Neat.
First I'm dj_tomato, then i'm rugarrel, then i'm shin and now i'm gladium.

>>342724669
All of those are quite literally dog shit though.

Let me know when the vita gets some quality games made for it instead of actual shovelware.

3DS alone has more JRPG's than everything you listed, and since it has masterpieces like Bravely Default and Bravely Second which put the entire vita library to shame, that's just adding insult to injury.
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>>342724669
>Why would you build a PC and buy a PS3 just to play games designed to be played nativelyon a vita only to miss out on half of them?
Because you might already have a PS3 and prefer better controls?
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>>342709283

Handhelds a best.

Vita and 3DS are literally the only consoles worth owning this gen. Only people who don't think so are console war kiddies and frame rate slaves tied to tier PCs in the basement.
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>>342709283
Kinda related, but should I buy a PSP or a Vita?

I want a PSP mostly to play PSX games on the go, and also to play the games I missed.

The thing is that I'm not sure if I can do the same on Vita, and it only has a few games I would like to play, in comparison with the PSP.
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>>342709283
Because the only fucking games on it are weeb RPGs. The only fucking game I have more than 10 hours on it is MvC3 and even that is more fun to play on any other console.

I just wanted PSP 2 is that so much to fucking ask?
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>>342726231
if you want to play psp games for the most part, why are you even asking which one to get?
psp will mean you get to play everything for free on a cheaper handheld without needing to buy overpriced memory cards.

you can play psp games on the vita, but you'd need to buy them unless you got lucky and found a low enough firmware vita available.

psp route sounds logical if you're not into vita games.
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Where the fuck do I get the aqua blue Vita for less than $200
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>>342725256
Whos polish on your Dador Moms side? So I can know who fucked who to give you your identity problems and persecution complex.

Put your trip on so I cna address you directly, stop being a little rodent gladium.
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>>342726814
>This post
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>>342726626
>you can play psp games on the vita, but you'd need to buy them unless you got lucky and found a low enough firmware vita available.
That's why I asked: I wasn't sure about the Vita's homebrew scene.

Oh well, time to find a cheap PSP.

Thanks for your reply, Anon!
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>>342726231

PSPs are very cheap. It wouldn't take a big hit out of your wallet to get a PSP. You can pirate them all and use a cheap memory card (micro SD in adaptor) to have a shitton of PS1 and PSP games.

Vita still has the same support, but unless you hack it (dependent on firmware version) you can't pirate PSP or PS1 games and are otherwise reliant on the online store. Also have to use proprietary memory cards which get pretty pricy. It's a nicer feeling device in general, the d-pad is incredible and the better analogs make a difference in plenty of games.
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>"Vita has no games"
>someone posts either a list of games or points out a game from a series that got a release on the Vita
>"D-Doesn't count for [REASON]"
I think everyone is just in on some shitty joke. It's library is fine.
Weeb is just some shitty buzzword that means absolutely nothing in an industry dominated by two Japanese companies and one American one.
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>>342727183
I don't know why, after all these years, people still keep falling for the list trap.
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>>342727183
The term "no games" has always meant no good games.
Posting a list of shovelware which I have played, as seen here >>342711456 and pretending to yourself that they're good just isn't going to work.

I have quite literally played every flag ship title for the vita. They are trash. No amount of damage control you come up with will change that fact.

When the 3DS with its little chibi games is blowing vita games the fuck out in every single aspect besides graphics then you know there's a problem. Fortunately, the people do acknowledge this problem seeing as the vita is dead everywhere besides Japan, where it is still selling less than the 3ds.

3DS is full of exclusives that are only available on that platform.
Vita consists of ports with the vast majority of its games having definitive versions on the PC or PS4.

Tl:dr - Cry more bitch nigga lmao.
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>>342717821
I want Project Diva X.
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>>342714071
The vita failed because he doesn't play multiplayer

on a handheld

ok
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>>342727990
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>>342727990
>The term "no games" has always meant no good games.

That's bullshit. Vita has lots of good games and you know it.

What the term really means is "I'm shitposting out of my arse because I hate your console".
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2016 vita games we got so far and what's coming out later:

MegaTagmension Blanc + Neptune VS Zombies
Neptunia vs Sega Hard Girls
Atelier Escha and Logy Plus
God Eater: Resurrection
God Eater 2: Rage Burst
Shantae: Half-Genie Hero
Mighty No 9
Grand Kingdom
World of Final Fantasy
Digimon Cyber Sleuth
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
Gal Gun Double Peace
Attack on Titan
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
Toukiden 2
Danganronpa V3
Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme VS Force
Moero Crystal (asain version has english)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 (asain version has english)
One Piece: Burning Blood
Muv-Luv
Salt and Sanctuary
Trillion: God of Destruction
Stranger of Sword City
Samurai Warriors 4: Empires
Senran Kagura: Estival Versus
Aegis of Earth: Protonovus Assault
Root Letter
Root Double- Before Crime * After Days
Shiren The Wanderer: The Tower of Fortune and the Dice of Fate
Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness
Criminal censored Girls 2
Yomawari: Night Alone
Croixieur Sigma
Gundam Breaker 3 (asain version has english)
Zero Time Dilemma
Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization
Atelier Sophie
SD Gundam G Generation Genesis (asain version has english)
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X
Skullgirls 2nd Encore
Ray Gigant
Trails of Cold Steel 2
MeiQ: Labyrinth Of Death
Mystery Chronicle: One Way Heroics
Dragon Quest Builders
Fate/Extella
Super Robot Wars V (asain version has english)
Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers (asain version has english)
The Asterisk War
Steins;Gate 0
Summon Night 6
Touhou Genso Wanderer
Fault Milestone One
Rabi-Ribi
Caligula

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>>342729094
>"I'm shitposting out of my arse because I hate your console".
>your console

It's my console too.
It's shit, and no it doesn't have a single good game.
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>>342710575
>laptops
>game streaming with shield/tablet
>micro ATX
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>>342729424
>doesn't have a single good game
Doesn't sound like you like videogames, anon.
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>>342730685
Considering I've been playing them for all my life (I'm 26), and I'm still playing them daily, I would beg to differ.
There's a very distinct difference between not liking video games and not liking shit video games.
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>>342729898
Not that anon but you have to be kidding me if you think streaming games is viable enough to be considered portable.
Nigga i wanna go on a rowboat to fish and level up anime tiddies, that's why 3ds and vita is a thing.
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>>342709283
>vita
>vast library

>>342709417
>vita
>competition
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>vita has no games!
>weeb games don't count!
>PC PORT WHEN
Every single vita game thread is like this
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>>342730985
If you can manage to play them every single day in your 26 years, you must have put many hours into trash because if the quality of vita games are your cut off point then you must have hated the whole ps2 era and early ps3 era.

Your use of smug anime girls doesn't help your case of hating weeb games either.
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>>342731679
Who said I hate weeb games? Didn't I just tell you that I hate shit games, aka the shovelware that is the vita's library.
I play a fuck ton of weeb games and enjoy them greatly. Vita games however, are literal weeb garbage. They feel more like mobile games than anything else.
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Apart from MHX, does the 3DS have anything being released soon? I was thinking of getting one to complement my vita.
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>>342732386
Naw anon. Can you please explain what makes what you like better than what you've played on the vita? You're being too vague and no one's taking anything you say seriously as a result.
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>>342733002
If nobody was taking anything I say seriously, then you all wouldn't be so shitter shattered whenever I post.
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>>342732671

SMT4 apocalypse
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>>342733550
So are you not going to tell me what makes one weeb game better than another? Are you going to ignore it?
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>>342733830
I've already answered it. Vita games are reminiscent to the same shit you'd find on mobile games.
Gameplay in them is shit.
OST in them is shit.
Story in them is shit.
Graphics range from okay to very nice.

Why do you think dog shit like Ray Gigant was being shilled here for months before it's release? Comes out, and what do you know, it gets something pitiful like a 62 on metacritic.

If you want something more in depth, then you're going to have to ask me why a certain game is shit because your question is too broad.
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Anyone getting the DRPG NIS made? From what 2chan says people are surprised they managed to make such a good one on their first try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiYkJzw51Cg
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>>342730985

or you might just not have taste.
I know people who've been playing all their life who still like pokemon.
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>>342734610
I asked for examples and comparisons, anon. What's a weeb game that you actually like and why is it so much better than a vita you played? How am I supposed to ask for specifics if i have no idea what you've even played? All i know is that you say you own a vita and hate everything about it.
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>>342735176
My taste in vidya is quite literally perfect though.
You're the one trying to defend games that are universally agreed upon to be shit. Only a select few vita owners who are suffering immense buyers remorse say otherwise.

Funny that you mention pokemon though since it's still far and away better than anything on the Vita.
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How is Japan receiving Caligula?
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no games
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>>342709283

I like the system, there's just a dearth of interesting games. I know Japanese, so I thought it'd help, but I don't care for fanservice games, so it hasn't yet. Thinking about selling it, but Muramasa Rebirth just went on sale, so I might buy it since it's only 7.50. Kinda reluctant to put anymore money into a system I might sell though.
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too many games
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>>342709283
It's a weeb system. Weeb = niche, of course it would get a lot of hate.
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>>342735220
>How am I supposed to ask for specifics if i have no idea what you've even played?
See >>342711456
I'm not doing any unnecessary typing. Be arsed with that shit, especially when I'm busy tending to other threads.
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>>342709417
We are happy to know that Vita was killed by their own creators and it's a failure in comparison with 3DS or even the PSP.

This will assure that Nintendo will have the only handheld console in the market the next generation.
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>>342736060

>Weeb = niche

I can't tell if you're serious or trolling. In any case, weeaboo lost all meaning a long time ago.
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>>342735617

'm-my taste is perfect though!'

funny you say that when your taste in anime girls is so shit :^)
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>>342736415
>weeaboo lost all meaning a long time ago.

How did it go from ''people who literally want to be japanese'' to ''thing from japan I don't like''?
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>>342736451
Tell me more.
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>>342735617
>>342736451
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>>342736086
>no moisture in panties
why
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>>342709798
Then why are you here? I'd say you do care about them.
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>>342736752
That's the funny thing about it. A weeb like me doesn't care about being called a weeb. It's not really an insult unless you're actually not a weeb. I think the aim is to convince others not to explore japanese vidya culture and games, and it's largely driven by SJWs who find such things "problematic."
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>>342709283
I love the kind of japanese games that come out for it, however I know that more "normal" people wont like them, so while I do like the Vita, I dont go around recommending it because I know the types of games are for niche gamers.
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>>342736867
A missed opportunity, to be sure.
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>>342737038

Not everything is the result of SJWs. You're overthinking this. It's just an insult like any other.
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>>342709283
Lets see the list

>Games ported to it are rather shitty
>Memory Cards in general; price, reliability, extended use
>Games going to the west more than likely go digital
>Western games so few and not good, relying on PSP games to make up for it It doesn't work.
>Games are mostly Japanese weeb pandering
>Little to no point in owning one when streaming is becoming more popular

That said I enjoy mine, especially since I hardly have time to be around my console an PC.
Still haven't updated the pic. Just got Stranger of Sword City and Odin Sphere.
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>>342736086
If that's actually your list of games (i don't believe it's actually yours since it's outdated as fuck), i want to know what are the games you actually like so i can ask for specifics. You still haven't given me specifics about the "good" weeb games. Why are you dancing around this so much?
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>>342737617
Hope you enjoy Odin Sphere. Plenty of the new minibosses are fun to fight like the dwarven airship.
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>>342737617
What the fuck. I could have sworn I've seen you being extremely pro vita before. I know you mention that you like it in your post, but I could have swore I've seen you implying it was flawless.
Could be getting you mixed up with somebody else but that pic is awfully familiar.

>>342737652
Well tough shit, it is mine. I've been in vita threads since their very inception.

>You still haven't given me specifics about the "good" weeb games.
Because you haven't given me any specifics as to what type of weeb games you want to hear about.
Platformers?
JRPG's?
Shmups?
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>>342726231
vita does everything the psp does, you can even transfer saves, (which pleasantly suprised me.)
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>>342738209
Why do i have to be so specific? Are you too incompetent to pick a game you've played? How am i supposed to know what games you've actually played that aren't vita games? Can you please pick something and tell me why is it so much better as a weeb game than something you've actually played on the vita?
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>>342738224

Too bad you have to buy games again (or for the first time)
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>>342738780
I can do this all day tbqh.
I'll answer you when you be a good boy and answer me.
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>>342739097
How am i supposed tp ask questions if you don't give me what i asked for? I want to know games you like. Pick games you like. Give me examples of games you like. Quit being a nigger.
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>>342739447
You don't need to know which games I like to name a genre.
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>>342709283
Is it possible to hack one to play pirate games, I got one from a friend which asked me to do this, and I have been looking on the internet and forum's, people claim it can't be done because of the Sony "SD card".

So a questions to the owners of this handheld console, is there a working hack like on previous PSP or not?
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>>342738209
>I could have swore I've seen you implying it was flawless.
Probably did. I don't remember things when shitposting.
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>>342739653
You don't own a vita, anon. You don't even play weeb games. Go back to /b/ you double nigger.
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>>342739850

>Is it possible to hack one to play pirate games
Minimal Vita piracy. PSP piracy and PS1 piracy if you're lucky. The only way to pirate is with the Blackfin which is not worth it.

>people claim it can't be done because of the Sony "SD card".
That has nothing to do with it.
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>>342739850

No.
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>>342739906
gg easy.
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>>342739969
Thanks for the info I'll just give it back and say he has to pay for the games.
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>>342739653
It's Obvious as fuck you don't even have a Vita, fuck off.
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No piracy.

Overpriced, proprietary memory cards

Shit library of bad ports and weeb shit
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>>342740202
Why are you samefag replying to my previous post?
Are you that shitter shattered that you got ruined? Calm down, it's just game.
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No piracy.
People hated the PSP and said it had no games and shit on it near constantly here, then after the pandora battery when there was easy CFW for all hardware and firmware along with a PC emulator it suddenly had tons of good games and people said that /v/ always liked it.
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>>342740916

A similar thing happened with the PS3.
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>>342740441
>shit library

But that's wrong, frank
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>>342739868
Nice collection.
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>>342740148
Says the guy who lost. I've proven you're all talk and can't even name weeb games unless i give you tags to google for. Since you don't play weeb games, you can't actually tell me why some are better than others. You lose homie, if feel otherwise then let me know the last 5 weeb games you've played and maybe take a picture for good measure to back up your claims.I'm sure you'll love the chance to redeem yourself.
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>>342741267
Name a genre lmao.
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I've only recently begun doing remote play on my Vita for my PS4.. Now I can play Sophie and NepsVII on my comfy bed when I'm tired of playing in the living room. It's pretty c00l.

Can the 3DS do remote play for the Piiu?
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>>342740983
Yep, and if the Vita ever gets hacked or there's a Vita emulator in the future the same revisionist history will happen to it too.
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>>342741397
What was the last genre you played? Because i choose that one.
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>>342741514
What would be the point of a Vita emulator when most of it's games are getting ported elsewhere?
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>>342741781
To quiet autism.
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>>342737617
Odd that those are the last two games I got for mine as well
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>>342741781
In fact, what's the point of a Vita emulator when it has no games?
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>>342742063
n-no games!!
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>>342741781
Most isn't all.
Also there's lots of Vita/PS3/PS4 multiplats and a Vita emulator would require a ton less overhead compared to those other two.
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>>342742063
>All that shovelware
>All those japaweeb games

l-lotsa games!!
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>>342741520
Last genre I played was sandbox (Terraria), but I'll let you off since I'm feeling generous and go one back which actually is a Jap game.
ARPG.

Ys Origin (Playing through as Hugo this time)
Not as good as Oath in Felghana but it'll serve it's purpose here.

So then, the question you asked is what makes the weeb games I play better than the dog shit on the Vita?
Well luckily we even have a Ys game on the Vita, so let's just compare our PC one to the god awful Vita one.

>Memories of Celceta -
>Butchered gameplay to appease to casuals, when Ys has history been a series with a moderate amount of difficulty.
>Bosses no longer require any semblance of skill to beat, you can either just brute force them due to the sheer amount of health items the game showers you with, or abuse the ever living fuck out of the glorified "quick time events" that are Flash guard/Flash dodge
>Game allows you to revive characters
>You can grind to victory, not that it's needed since the game is piss easy (like all vita games), but it just adds further insult to injury.
>The glorious music that Ys is known for is gone and replaced with bland as fuck arranges that get outdone by their previous counterparts from MoTS/Dawn


Compare that to the likes of Oath and Origin which have tight as fuck combat, the ability to jump, no healing bullshit, amazing 10/10 OST's and just overall solid gameplay.

This is just one example of a series going to the vita and being butchered.

As somebody who makes 90% of Falcom threads, I can say with confidence that it's universally agreed that Celceta is by far the worst game. It even dethrones Kefin. That's how bad it is.

Celceta is the only Ys game in the entire series that I dropped 3/4 of the way through because I just couldn't deal with how fucking shit it is.
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>>342742741

don't forget the ports!
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>>342742546

>Also there's lots of Vita/PS3/PS4 multiplats and a Vita emulator would require a ton less overhead compared to those other two.
Compared to the PS3 probably.
Compared to the PS4? Not at all. More is known about the PS4 than anything at all in the Vita.
The PS4 got Linux in a matter of days after a hack was found because it's all stock hardware; I don't think the Vita has it at all..
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>>342742741
>>342742830
Hey man when you work security, something has to have your attention during the downtimes
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Not a Vita owner or 3DS owner, so I'd like to say I'm pretty neutral. Can someone explain to me what's wrong with multiplats on a portable system? Isn't that why people were clamoring for shit like the SteamBoy and the Nvidia Shield? What's wrong with some anons wanting to play some console weeb games in bed?
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>>342743581

Some people benefit a lot from having games in a portable environment, others don't. Neither understand the gripes of the other.
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>>342743680
Thank you for the kind response anon.
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>>342709283
I fucking love my Vita
The only bad thing about it is that it doesnt have a hole so I can fuck it because I honestly would
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>>342743818

Out of all my consoles, the only one I would fuck is my Dreamcast because it's not black
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>>342743818
>Tiny dick faggot has shit taste and loves shovelware
Woah, what a twist.
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>>342743818
it's only for jerking off.
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>>342744056
what game
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>>342744056
This reminds me too much of the shake thing in South Park.
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>>342744038
Stop fishing for replies.
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>>342744137
>>342744223
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ITT: faggot who thinks smug anime girls make up a convincing argument.

Leave while you can, everybody.
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>>342744056
Is that the card game with monster girls?
I wonder if its good cuz last time I checked it was kinda cheap and I love any game that lets me interact with character and pet them.
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>>342744264
It's quite literally true though. Nobody has managed to prove me wrong, yet again.

Maybe one day somebody will be able to challenge my authority and actually out debate me.
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>>342744137
Moero chronicle
Also known as pantsu quest
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>>342744396
That one's Monster Monpiece. The Webm is pic.
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>>342744492
Calling another anon a tiny dicked faggot doesn't sound like you're instigating a worth while debate. It just makes you look like a waste of time and energy for getting so triggered by someone liking games and a console you don't.
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>>342709283
it doesn't have pokemon and marios.

that's all. no one buys a handheld for "serious" games anymore.
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>>342709283
#1 I demoed it at the store
#2 Its load times were slow as fuck
#3 Its not much different from regular PSP.
#4 It has no killer app or mascot game.
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>>342742827
I thought Ys wasn't weeb though. Are you talking about just Japanese games and just calling them weeb just because? Shit's gross.

I never played the Ys exclusive to the vita, played one of the ones on pc and i can't particularly say that they stand out very much. There's a lot of running around and just bumping shit. I'm sure it was nice on the psp but I can't say that it holds up.

I'd like to hear more about actual "weeb games". You ask for me to list genres like you've played everything there is to play so I'd like to hear more about maybe the Atelier enhanced ports or maybe why you don't like rhythm games. Can you tell me where lost dimension messed up or if any of the blazblu tutorials taught you anything you didn't know. We're talking weeb games off all different genres now i guess so i have to cover all the ground i can.
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Fuck the Vita slim. The d pad sucks and feels awful to use.
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>>342745515
If you hate the Vita dpad then which system has your favourite?
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>>342744929
I respect your opinion Tyrese, but you must understand that I was merely stating facts.
If he wanted to engage in sexual intercourse with his Vita, that would imply that has dick is indeed miniscule.
If he enjoys Vita games, then he has shit taste.

It's pretty self explanatory to be quite honest with you.

>>342745310
Why are you considering games like Atelier weeb but not Ys?
And I didn't mention Atelier games because you specifically asked me to talk about non vita games.

Atelier games are fucking shit anyway from what I've played. The "alchemy" system I heard so much about is just crafting. There's quite literally nothing special about it.
Combat sucks and is never difficult (I fucking hate easy games, which is yet another reason why Vita games do not appeal to me) and the time limit adds fuck all to the experience.
As far as I'm concerned, the Atelier games are a joke.

>>342745718
Not him but the Japanese Sega saturn pad has the best D-pad by far.
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>>342745515
On a scale of 1 to 10, how cool are you? I need to know so i can know whether or not i can make a your mom joke.
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>>342745515

I didn't realize the dpads were different. I can't remember which it was, but when I tried the Vita the dpad was really tactile and responsive.
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>>342745012
No one ever did. We learned that with the Game Gear and the Lynx over 20 years ago.
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>>342745871

They had deeper flaws.

The PSP still sold very well and was a non-nintendo handheld. And smaller systems like the Wonderswan and NGPC still carved out markets for themselves.
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>>342745817
bitch stop talkin like you at a high school socratic seminar it's annoying as hell. you're on /v/ dude lax up a bit.
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>>342710124
Good for us that DQ is on ios and android too
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>>342745959
Haha sorry! I am not well versed on /V/ culture yet friend. I expect I will learn the appropriate posting conduct in due time. Fingers crossed!
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>>342709283
>hate the vita?
I don't care 'bout VITA. it worse, didn't it?
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>>342745841
Both have the same dpad.
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Does the Vita even exist still in retail stores? The only Vitas I've seen brand new are on eBay for ridiculous prices.
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>You will never be able to go back in time and stop yourself from falling for the vita meme.
Lads, how do you deal with this?
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>>342747341

I've seen more PSP games on sale in retail stores than Vita ones in the past years.
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>>342745818
Definitely a 2.
>>342745841
It works great but it's uncomfortable. The edges in the middle make using it unpleasant. Maybe mine is a defect
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>>342745817
I started asking about vita games because you never game me any non vita weeb games. I understand if you didn't like the Atelier games but it's a overly complicated visual novel that's got really basic exploration. You challenge is to actually get the endings you want and manage the time or crafting the 1hit ko boss killing items. I can get that it's not for everyone, but it's pretty stupid to call something a bad game just because it's not what you were looking for. I started including everything Japanese since that's what you're considering weeb now i guess. Having to humor a dumbass just to get an answer requires me to stoop to your level.

Got anything else for the rest of the games mentioned? Lost dimension opinions? Blazblue on vita and such?
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>>342747787
> a 2
Oh ok. Uhh i guess that's around "ur mom suks and feels aweful to use lol". It would be worse if you were a 1.
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>>342747341
Seen a few Vitas at Walmart. There were also about 15 copies of FFX/X-2 still on the shelf after 3 years.

GameStop still has the Vita Section, though at the very back and are often on sale.
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>>342748238
>I started including everything Japanese since that's what you're considering weeb now i guess.
Ys is well known to be a weeb series.
Atelier is well known to be a weeb series.

You apparently do not know what the of weeb is if you disagree (well, technically neo weeb since it used to mean something completely different).

What do you think is weeb then? Because all I'm getting here is that you think visual novels are the only things that count for weeb, which is retarded as fuck.
I've played a good share of Jap VN's too though, so even if that was your only definition of weeb, then I'd have that genre covered too.
I play Touhou and Cave games, which are shmup weeb games.
Bunny Must Die and Rabi Ribi, which are metroidvania weeb games.
Ys which is ARPG weeb.
Trails in The Sky which is JRPG weeb

How are these not weeb you fucking retard?
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>>342749360
>What do you think is weeb then?
JRPGs.
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>>342749859
>Jrpg's are the only things that count as weeb games
Well at least your stupidity makes things piss easy for me.
I'll even narrow it down to just a few JRPG's on nintendo's handhelds.

Bravely Default, Bravely Second, Stella Glow and Radiant Historia handily destroy any JRPG on the vita.
Persona 4 is a joke of a game that has no redeeming qualities.
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>>342750517
>your
I just going around. I don't have vita, and even nevr see one.
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>>342750517

SMT4, the worst mainline SMT, destroys Persona 4
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>>342709283
Who cares? You and I enjoy it. That's all that matters.
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>>342751004
Devilish.

>>342751102
It really does. Persona 4 is such utter fucking shit.
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>>342718114
Tales of the Abyss is garbage compared to Hearts. I beat both. Hearts has insanely better combat
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As someone who owns and likes both 3DS and Vita, the Vita version of Virtue's Last Reward was superior to the 3DS version (whether it's a weeb game or not, is something I'm not getting into), due to not have a glitch/bug that deletes your save file.

http://www.aksysgames.com/2013/02/08/zero-escape-virtues-last-reward-saving-issue/
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Count another one for the emeory cards. They're the reason I didn't get a psp and the reason I waited so long in getting a vita.

If Sony ever does a new handheld they need to stick with sd like every other device. As it is, SS Delta is on sale and staring me in the face but I have no room on my 8 gig so why bother?

The vita has a better online system than the 3ds but with the expensive proprietary cards that means jack shit.
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>>342750517
>>342751416
>persona 4 is a joke of a game
Lmao you are such an autistic fucking edgelord kill yourself you shit taste shitposter
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Wondering if there's any dev group working on hacking the Vita, as I'd probably wouldn't mind helping out and getting some use out of this crap. Sony's consoles have been easier to crack with the start of the PS3's Linux OS, I'm finding it hard to believe that this is taking so long.
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>>342751950

Hahahaha
They put more effort into making the Vita secure than the PS4.
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>>342751814
>Persona 4 apologist shits the bed
Pottery.
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>>342751950
>>342752053

Black Fin is actually on the verge of busting the thing wide open.
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>>342752180
lmao are you actually this retarded? you repeat the same words and jokes over and over like a bot. I bet you're stuttering right now because you have nothing good left to say after shitting all over the thread LMAO
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>>342751950
>>342751950
Just because it uses Linux doesn't make it easy.
It's the reason why the PS3 still hasn't been able to use CFW above 3.55
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>>342752428

Is it ever actually going to lose the network requirement?
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>>342709283
I just bought a PSP because piracy gives it value, even in 2016. It's a great platform when you can amass a library of games that were otherwise difficult to get.

When Vita is jailbroken then it'll become one of the best platforms ever.
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>>342752849
>literally advocating piracy
Please no.
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>>342752563
>crucify some persona shitter
>He goes full damage control mode to save face
Holy fuck gif related is literally me right now.
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>>342709283
>vast library
Well, I was only interested in one game, and it got ported on PS4. I don't hate the vita, I just don't give a fuck.
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>>342752925
>cared 'bout piracy
You sissy, or something?
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>>342753106
>literally me
You're a middle aged man with a receding hairline?
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>>342750517
>3DS has such a small library that you gotta pick games from the DS to shitpost

KEK
I own both 3DS and Vita, and both are shit compared to their previous systems but the 3DS is the worst one by far.
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>>342750517
>bravely second
>good
Better yet
>neo-square enix
>good
Now that is what I call some top tier bait. Guess you're excited for I am Setsuna right? :^)
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I have both a Vita and a hacked 2DS, but I find playing my Vita more enjoyable. I take long 3 hour commutes to and from work, so it helps for killing time on the go.
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>>342753545
Kill yourself nintendrone.
The 3DS is fucking garbage.
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>>342753575
>square enix
>good
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>>342753575
The Bravely series is literally in the top 5 JRPG's of all time.
It's not even debatable.

>I am Shitsuna
Nope. I'm glad it bombed too, it looks like shit.

>>342753694
Mate you need to calm the fuck down. I recommend you practice your breathing exercises in your safe space until you've recovered.
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too lazy to read through the thread, what good games are there on the vita? I bought a vita a while back and have only ever used it for Persona, now I feel swindled.
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>>342753797
>square
>good
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>>342753545
>LEL LEL I TRIGGERED YOU BY SHITPOSTING LOL XDD

You have done nothing but make yourself look like a retard, my buttflustered smug animu posting buddy.
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>>342753901
>s
>good
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>>342753874
>top five JRPGS
no
there are way better ones on the goddamn SNES and PS1, you have to be kidding yourself
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>>342753971
>good
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>>342754049
>g
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>>342753874
>The Bravely series is literally in the top 5 JRPG's of all time.

AHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NINTENBABIES ARE THIS DELUSIONAL HOLY SHIT
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>>342725256
>All of those are quite literally dog shit though.
>Trying this fucking hard
I hate the vita, but you have some shit taste.
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>>342754134
>I've played quite literally every good JRPG there is.
And this alone ruined your entire argument, good job.
Thanks, now keep posting smug anime girls for my shitposting folder.
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>>342754134
>If you don't have anything nice to say
...then you need say something, because it's valuable strategy in that pretty dispute you have here.
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>>342754150
>
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>>342754173
>>342754042
The key thing is that the Bravely games are better than literally every Vita exclusive. Whether they're in the top 5 is debatable. That they outclass the Vita library singlehandedly is objectibe fact.
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>>342754134
>Anon anon anon. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all! Capiche?

Oh the irony.
You cant be THIS much of a retard, can you?
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>>342754408
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>>342754464
uh, no they don't
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>>342754464
Sure kid.
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I couldn't afford a memory card
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>>342754828
>I took over this thread
Since when? And since you don't look look Pinochet or something...
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>>342754828
>I took over this thread

kek
He took over the threehouse you guys.
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>>342753893

Freedom Wars if you get it on sale. Not worth more than 10.
Soul Sacrifice Delta
Tokiden Kiwarmi
Muramasa Rebirth
Dragon's Crown
Persona 4 and Dancing All Night.

If you like fighters, it has Ultimate MvC3, Mortal Kombat 9,Blazblue CPE, Injustice with all the dlc, Skullgirls 2nd Encore Dead or Alive 5 and Guilty Gear Accent Core Plus R.

There's also the ps1 classics and some ps2 ports.

Don't get Bolderlands 2, the controls are terrible and the dlc vouchers have expired for physical copies.
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>Everybody gone silent after getting blown the fuck out

It was just a prank guys, no need to get so asshurt.
I'll even let you get the last word in since I'm going out for 15 minutes.

:^)
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>>342756818
i'm busy playing my vita tho
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>>342756818
I think most Vita owners are way too mature to keep giving you attention, silly boy.
Go on thinking you have achieved something here though, I guess that's all some people have to be proud of in their life.
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>Nintendo babies this salty everytime a Vita thread is made

Only men of true taste can handle the Vita!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqDirhUJr3I
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Is there a marked difference between the screen quality of the original vita and the slim vita? I kinda want to play rpgs in bed.
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If the Vita had the Monster Hunter series it would have been perfect.
Though Toukiden is fucking great too.
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3 days!
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>>342709283
The Vita has games?
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>>342759182
Is God Eater 2 getting localized?
Thought it would never happen holy shit
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>>342759608
Resurrection on Tuesday for US.
Rage Burst on August 30th.
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>>342758804
Heard many times that the original Vita has a better and more vivid screen but I guess thats all the Slims loses on.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/126891-ps-vita-slim-vs-ps-vita-what-s-the-difference
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>>342759608
Localization plus PC port.
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>>342709868
Personally I just hate anything from the Final Fantasy mold. Turn-based combat, long strings of unvoiced dialogue, pandering anime artstyle. Fuck those games.

Plenty of great japanese games though. Just can't stand turn-based anime game #352352632623
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PC is the master race. Handhelds are trash.
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>>342760281

This baka desu senpai,
>>
>took literally hours for mods to off the rampant shitposter
If you get on it quicker next time, i might even thank you, stupid mods.
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>>342759826
>Ressurection is a remake of the first game

Fuck thats actually nice.

>>342760083
Might get it for PC too, maybe it will revive the multiplayer.
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>>342761062
Not gonna take my pc fishing, loser.
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>>342709283
desu the only vita game that interests me is P4G

Also I bought a 3DS because I'm poor and 32GB SD cards cost $10
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I want to take lewd photos of Alisa
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>>342761372
Only $20 too for people unacquainted and want to give it a try.
Vita and PS4 are crossplay. PC is segregated and both release on August 30th for PC.
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>>342761750
Why doesn't PC have crossplay with the Vita and PS4? That makes no sense.
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>>342761750
To be honest I dont really like that it is being released for PS4 and PC now because it means the Vita is losing yet another exclusive.
But then again both games are so old that I guess it doesnt really matter now.
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>>342762920
>it means the Vita is losing yet another exclusive
So what? Vita pretty dead platform anyway.
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What's better, predator styles or blood arts?
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>>342762920
The game is still for vita, and it will be cross play with ps4. Thats honestly fantastic
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>>342762920
Not that guy but I'm afraid we're gonna have to give up the vitafag title if we're going to live happy lives playing our vitas. I've become more of a fan for the games that it gets than I am of the thing itself, so when they get ported to pc or console I become happy as opposed to bitter and cynical.

Thanks gravity rush 2, you've destroyed me and made me live my days out pretending to be a different man, eyes glazed over and screaming "yaaay" with small tears in my eyes.

I'm also buying broken ps4s and fixing them to resell because fuck sony
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>>342762920
It stopped being an exclusive ages ago when they made the games Vita/PS4 in Japan.
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>>342762775
They need extra time to port it to PC which is why it's releasing later, and PS+PC cross play would probably hold back the other versions too.
Also I bet Sony requires extra certification for games that have cross play with PC which Bamco either doesn't have time for, or doesn't want to put money and effort in to.
It sucks for both parties because it splits the playerbase. I personally think that the fractured playerbase plus releasing later will pretty much doom the long term PC players on it. Doubly so if there are any issues with the port.

>>342763170
If it were a dead platform then they wouldn't keep localizing games for it anon. Games keep getting announced for localization too.
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>>342709283
>Seriously it has such a diverse and vast library I don't understand why more people aren't interested in it
Most people don't like weebshit and indie games.
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>>342763170
>>342763828
Was it ever considered exclusive since it was a psp game first?
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>>342763960
True, GE2 vanilla was a PSP/Vita game, then when Rage Burst came out it became a Vita/PS4 game.
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>>342763170
I know you are pretending to be stupid, but consoles/handhelds are not "dead" as long as games are released for them.

>>342763772
It's not that I don't like Vita games coming for PC.
I have a Vita and a pretty buffy PC, and everytime a Vita game comes out for PC I get less reasons to buy Vita games.
Of course I could buy the Vita versions of the games, but if I have the option to get the PC version that is most of the times cheaper and runs at better resolution and FPS I will obviously get the PC version instead.
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>>342709283
should i buy a vita just to play castlevania: Dracula Chronicles x?
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>>342712412
>caligula getting LOLcalized by atlus jewSA
rip
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>>342764615

What? No way. It emulates fine and is inferior to the TG-16 version anyway.
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>>342764495
>games
Since when vita has games?
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>>342717447
>dub only
into the trash
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>>342764830
But the Vita has a nice dpad.
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>>342765052

You're right about that, I guess.
>>
>2016
>still no Soul Sacrifice sequel

How is this possible
>>
>>342764615
>castlevania: Dracula Chronicles x

Isnt that for PSP?
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>>342744320
The vita is literally for degenerates
>>
>>342764615
sure
You can play other castlevanias within it as well
>>
so how does the vita work? Are all your games up in a cloud where you have to login to play? Do you always need wifi? Or do you download it straight to your SD card?
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>>342765852

> Or do you download it straight to your SD card?
Or you put cartridges in, yes.

It's just a regular handheld m8.
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>>342765932
cartridges? really?
>>
>>342765852
You download your games to your proprietary memory card, you can also use physical cartridges. Save data for Vita games is tied to install data, so if you're going to uninstall a game to make room on your memory card it's recommended you back it up to your PC first or upload the save to the PS+ save cloud.
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>>342765543
>degenerates
Define.
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>>342766053

Cartridges.
They tried discs on the PSP; that didn't work out.
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>>342765165
>How is this possible
Sony abandoned their handheld.
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>>342766125
PS+ save cloud, holy shit you're kidding me. At least i can do it for free on a pc.
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>>342766053
yes but there are plenty of digital only vita games.
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>>342765852
How do people keep jumping to these weird conclusions about the vita? Why isn't it a default "shit goes in and you play it"?
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>>342766236
Yep, tying the install data to the save data was yet another anti piracy measure sony took to prevent save file exploits, shit's locked down tight.
>>
Two words:
Memory Cards.
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>>342766298
It's mostly the fault of the absolute lack of physical presence it has in most stores.
>>
>>342766374

That makes zero sense

Save encryption is what secures a system against save file exploits, not tying it to game data as some weird package.
>>
>>342763772
You are pathetic
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>>342766053
You do know that cartridges are better, right?
At least for the loading times.
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>>342763772
>I'm also buying broken ps4s and fixing them to resell

What the actual shit
>>
>>342766704
I honestly didn't know vita used cartridges, i thought it was all digital.
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>>342766925

You were probably thinking of the PSP Go.
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>>342718710
Play FC/SC first
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>>342709283
>Vast library
Vast library of weebshit dating sims and VNs, sure.
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>>342766606
You're simple and lack imagination.

>>342766824
What's up? With as many ps4s being sold there's plenty to fix and flip.
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>>342767156
>VNs
You assholes make it sound like there's a ton of them yet every time i look, there's still only like 3 or so. I want more VNs on vita you niggers, so stop being retarded.
>>
What game genres should I play?


I am someone who only plays video games rated E for Everyone by the ESRB


and I hate violent games
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>>342767156
>Vast library of weebshit dating sims and VNs
>implying thats a bed thing

Those are better than most shit we be getting lately.
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>>342767717
>I am someone who only plays video games rated E for Everyone by the ESRB

Play Nintendo games then.
>>
the more i research and look for prices on line about this VITA. The more it seems like its a gigantic jew scam.
>jew memory card
>majority of good games only digital
no thanks, i'll stick with my iPhone and 3DS
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>>342767967
And what Nintendo Console be the best for me?


remember that only plays video games rated E for Everyone by the ESRB
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>>342768178
Google it.
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>>342768178
3DS
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>>342768178
N64.
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>>342719526
Actually, the Wizardry series is often considered a WRPG. By that logic, Dungeon Travelers, Demon Gaze, Strangers of Sword City, etc. are WRPGs.
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I love my Vita every thread
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>>342768262
I prefer the 2DS


So what video game genres should I play?
remember that I only play games that are rated E for Everyone by the ESRB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mezZQlE6alo
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>>342767853
>bed thing
>>
Would you buy a Vita if Suikoden 6 was released on it?
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>>342768556
play the "I'm a massive faggot: Kill Yourself" series
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>>342767853
>implying thats a bed thing
but I like to play with my Vita on the bed
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>>342768501
Thats a cute little vita.
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I love my Vita so much that I'm going to sell my WiiU just to buy more Vita games
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>>342767967
Name a Nintendo game that is nonviolent.
>>
Is trillion actually good? I know it's a princess maker kinda game with some basic roguelike shit thrown in.
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>>342769258
Mario's missing. In fact all of the Mario learning games.
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>>342769261
I couldn't tell you, you gotta choose which waifus have to die and the easy way to save them all is to just not play.
>>
who existed for loli-pirates? I hope it get localized
>>
Please don't overly spoonfeed the niggers. They can find shit themselves via Google.

It may be better to not spoofeed them at all
>>
Reminder that PSVR most likely killed off Vita's first party support.
>>
>>342769383
>Bowser decides to flood the Earth
>(...) Luigi then lies to him saying he threw the shell off the balcony; then, when Bowser leans over the railing to look for it, Luigi kicks him off and he lands in the snow

Very educational.
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>>342769624
*excited
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>>342769714
Hey you have to answer history quizzes before you kick turtle ass off a rail.
>>
You know, I'd like franchises (series) game that all their games are always rated E for Everyone by the ESRB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMguSriiu3U
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>>342769698
Pretty sure it was the ps4 that did that.
>>
>>342769258
Nintendogs
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>>342769624
Never heard of it but the lolis look nice.
Why Vita has so many cute lolis
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>>342769943
Make another thread then or Google it. Your relevance is shaking.
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>>342769258
Animal crossing
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>>342770089
I prefer cats
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>>342770219
Because nintendo isn't a loli haven anymore. Since sony doesn't care anymore, they won't stand in the way because no one important will stumble across the loli games.
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>>342770229
and what I put in the google search engine?
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>>342770438
I hope the mods free up your evening.
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>>342771156
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