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>>342635785
Learn how to blankpost
Time to get this over with
>>342635843
>not liking the single dot and how imposing it is
Tsk.
>>342635785
I want to crumble up that paper toad and use him as my condom and then throw it in the trash after I exploded on him
I don't understand Nintendo's fetish with toads.
>>342636341
Won't you get a fungal infection?
>>342636463
They're cute, simple in design, and marketable.
WHEN THE TOAD CAME HOME
>>342635785
I remember him
>yfw Paper Mario has more shitty games than good
>>342637363
More like it's balanced out. First 2 are great, Super is a mixed bag & SS/CS are shit.
UNIQUE RARE TOAD
>have a tropical themed Mario
>don't go with Piantas
>>342638214
>Piantas are from Delfino Island
>game takes place on Prism Island
>WOOOOOOW THERE ARENT DELFINO ISLAND INHABITANTS ON PRISM ISLAND BRAVO SHITENDO
>>342638214
this, seriously what were they thinking?
>>342635785
THREE
OUTLINES
T H R E E
>>342635785
What sound do they make again?
>>342638565
>browsing the Peeka page when the screenshot was taken
good man
>>342638565
Good picture.
>>342638846
HAW HAW
>>342638807
Makes them look like stickers
>>342639281
But this new game is about cards, not stickers.
>>342639281
LIKE PAPER LMAO
DUDE PAPER MARIO WITH PAPER GET IT? ABSOLUTELY DANK WWEW WFUCKING EBIN WEW LMAO PAPER PAPERPPERPAPAPER MARIO PAPER WITH THE STICKERS LMAO PAPER FUCK CHARACTERS AND STORY DUDE PAPER P A P E R PAPEPRAPPAPEPEPAPER
Since Draggadon is confirmed will we be seeing Captain Toad?
>>342639527
Woah slow down there bucko.
>>342639507
You're tearing me apart Anon
Reminder that PM64 had zero paper gimmicks.
>>342639527
>>342639618
We'll see Toadette for sure.
>>342639527
Possibly, I wouldn't mind Captain Toad since he's actually a more unique Toad than the others.
>>342638565
Nintendo became jaded and lazy after Miyamoto forced them to make shit like Wii music.
It's the only explanation.
>>342638531
Foreigners?
I mean, even beanbean had a toad town.
>>342639732
it had some gags but yeah it was just Mario Story
>>342639803
The lava in the first two games looked better than that.
DUDE PAPER LMAO killed Paper Mario.
>>342639938
That was more like a "wall" community to keep all the smelly fungi out of based Beanbean Kingdom.
Like a "Little Mexico".
Plot twist
The Shy Guys are actually the natives of Prism Island and have been reduced to a minority because of Toad colonization.
That's why they team up with Bowser.
>>342640056
>bean
>Mexico
Pottery.
>>342639803
>even the average fan who abhors Color Splash say this Paper Mario has the best aesthetic yet
I'll never understand. In addition to "DUDE PAPER", every character has like 2 frames of animation.
>>342640163
BUT IT'S PAPER DUDE
>>342640096
>implying it's not just "Bowsa took da Princess" with no deep meaning to anything at all
they're just mooks anon
>>342640026
>>342640229
Hey guys, the ground is made of cardboard!
>>342635953
HELP ME GUYS I AM ABOUT TO BECOME ONE WITH THE TOAD
>>342640348That's actually clever
>>342640259
RAWR
>>342640348
Those trees are awful, even if you like DUDE PAPER.
So did you start writing letters to Nintendo complaining about the game and asking for TTYD HD?
It's literally the only way to make them listen.
>>342640449I think it's the best thing to come out of the paper bullshit honestly.
>>342639507
>Break stone bricks in Paper Mario
>They crumble into pieces with a satisfying sound
>Break stone bricks in Shitter Star
>They just turn into paper, and fade away
>>342640556
>TTYD HD
>noose removed from Rougeport
>Flurry has no tits
>other unimaginable faggotry
I don't want Nintendo to touch TTYD.
>>342640348
I liked it better when it was called Tearaway.
That said, Nintendo is probably so far up their own ass that they've never even played- no, never even looked at Tearaway. What a shame. They could really learn some stuff from that. Also, Puppeteer. That game had some great aesthetics, whether you like the gameplay or not.
>>342639803
Holy shit, that poor fire bro.
not everything has to be fucking PAPER
>>342640948
>didn't burn to a crisp upon entry
>literally drowned in lava
>>342639803
>>>>175 HP
>>342635785five guys
>>342640874
HD ports are not remakes, dumbo.
>>342638531
they were in TTYD
>>342641142
You also lose a shitload in bosses.
>>342641246
Implying they wouldn't.
Implying they fucking wouldn't.
>>342641305
>that "animation" when Starchild gets jumped on
Are you kidding me?
Just fuck my immersion up senpai.
>>342641305
>solution to this boss fight is to use a fucking fire extinguisher powerup to summon a realistic fire extinguisher
Fucking stupid ass shit. Imagine if the lava piranha's weakness wasn't Sushi's water moves, but some weak ass Bucket sticker that summons an IRL bucket of water
>>342641343
Did they remove anything in WW and TP HD?
>>342639803
Oh that looks fu- *sees collectible card
Never mind.
>>342641305
>>342641609
>gimmick bosses again
Just fuck my ass.
>>342638531
>Introduce a new island
>Should we inhabit it with previously established tropical creatures?
>DON'T BE REDICULOUS JUST SHOVE MORE TOADS ON IT!
>>342641716
They didn't have a ghost with giant naked tits.
>>342640874
>>342641343
The game is already fully translated
They don't need the fucking Treehouse to touch it
>>342639732
>Fall off a cliff
>Gently flutter down like a piece of paper.
>Happens again with the Koopa Bros trap
SS and CS are going overboard, but don't pretend it was never a thing.
>>342641926
The Treehouse is the one who translated it in the first place.
>>342641037
I loved the watercolor background aesthetics of the first PM.
>>342641982
The Treehouse didn't exist back in 2004 anon
>>342641881
FUCK OFF
How does this make bosses fun? If I could beat the Crystal King with an electric heater he would be the shittiest boss in the game.
>>342641926
Who in the holy mother of fuck do you think translated it in the first place
>>342641881
Might as well dumb these again.
Hypothetically if Paper Mario went back to more 64/TTYD style, but they kept all the paper gimmicks from sticker/color would you be okay with it?
>>342642184
I'm desperate so yes.
>>342639732
>fluttering to the ground
>rolling up into a tube to go down pipes
>when you destroy the goomba kings castle the windows fall off because they were just glued together pieces of paper
There's probably more I'm forgetting.
>>342642184
I'd buy it.
>>342642176
Why is the Panthernon at the background?
>>342642176
>summoning a realistic battery
Jesus christ
>>342642093
>tfw you didn't use a giant fan to blow away huff n puff to instantly win.
>>342642184
Most people complaining about the LOL PAPER are only complaining because it's in these shitty games.
If it was LOL PAPER in the first 2 games no one would be complaining
>>342642176
GREAT GAMEPLAY
AMAZING
>>342642070
Same, I also really liked the transparent water they had for 64. In TTYD it was all opaque.
>>342642303
There was also a bridge that you raise on Pleasant Path that unfolds itself after popping up. But nothing nearly as bad as Dude Paper Mario, especially since they fucking love throwing realistic objects into battles.
>>342642283
That's actually pretty alright until the cat gets in it.
>>342642379
dude zeus lmao
>>342641869
>giant naked tits
You mean like Midna?
>>342642608
The realistic items being in it is what kills it for me.
>>342641881
This is so terrible to watch. Are there even any action commands for these ridiculously long sequences?
>>342642176
You don't even do anything?
At least with the crystal star moves there was some degree of gameplay.
>>342635953
>That very last statement on the bottom right corner
I-is Miyamoto mocking the fact that when story elements are added to a Mario game that it somehow makes it childish...? Am I interpreting that right?
>>342642970
Sticker Star had them but they sucked
it was just "hit the button at the right time which isn't indicated at all"
>>342642945
>>342642970
>>342642981
Sticker Star gave Thing stickers action commands but there was literally no indication (at least that I noticed) of when you press it. Maybe Color Splash will be the same way.
>>342643019
I think he just means people who do try to add story usually fuck it up & make it too childish.
>>342642090
They existed since the original Donkey Kong Country.
>>342643193
>no enemy selection
I don't understand. Are they trying to make it kid friendly?
PM64 was hard as fuck for my dumb kid brain, but that's why I loved it so much.
>>342643319
By the way, I can make more webms from the demonstration if any of you have requests.
>>342643319
>Instead of a Shy Guy partner, we just get a bland disposable one
Miyamoto must step down. He's lost his marbles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onScwrHP2g0
>>342643424
What masterful gimmick do you have to use to get Morton of the pedestal?
>>342643319
>>342643424
make a gun and shootme, I can't take any more of this
>>342641881
The presentation is fantastic but this really fucked over the bosses in Sticker Star.
If you didn't have the correct Thing on-hand, like you couldn't carry it or you had used it elsewhere by mistake, you were fucked during these boss battles.
I could conceivably seeing them addressing this in Color Splash by doing something like this though:
>Thing Cards become a permanent addition to your deck
>But you can't use normal paint for them, they need a special paint that is in short supply
So you can always use a thing sticker if you NEED to, but you can't abuse them.
It would allow you to look at your recovered things when think which one could possibly solve your problems during battles.
But it still fucking sucks that they design bosses as puzzles with no depth to strategy.
>>342643732
Well at least you have some SLIGHT incentive for battles now
>>342643732
>>342643641
You actually use a normal card. In this case the KO Hammer.
I'm not going to lie, this game looks hilarious as fuck.
It seems like they're putting so much effort into it.
But I'm nothing but disappointed and frustrated with almost every decision.
>>342644128
>MORE TONS PEDAL STOOL
>FIVE GUYS LOL SHUFFLEGATE
hilarious
>>342644114
I don't know if that's better or worse. Or the same.
There's still no strategy there, aside from "don't jump on it dumbass", which is the same as the very first areas of the first games.
>>342642945
he's not gonna make it...
>>342644308
They're putting effort into all the wrong areas.
DUDE INNOVATION LMAO.
DUDE GIMMICKS LMAO.
But everything else is lazy. Aside from DUDE PAPER LMAO, there's no imagination in there.
>>342644114
>>342643424
>>342641881
Did Morton talk like a retard in Paper Jam too?
>>342644515
No, he didn't.
Up until recently the Koopalings were silent roles in the games too.
>>342644515
He hardly talked at all. Honestly Iggy, Lemmy, and Morton got shafted.
>>342644128
Same. It has that light-hearted charm that gives me a good chuckle with every little visual gag.
The problem is that the game is a farce if that's all it has. There seems to be no engaging narrative to hold these moments of levity. I don't want a game of 10 levels each with nothing but the occasional comedic moment, I want a compelling story with charming characters and moments of comedy interspersed.
Notice how none of the jokes here involve reading?... Notice how you don't feel compelled to learn about any of the characters you see?...
It's just a muted tone of visual humor.
>>342642628
>L goes backwards because they just flipped the sprite
BRAVO NINTENDO
>>342644243
Paper Mario: The Fifth Dimentional Warp Hole Epidemic Crisis
>>342644716
Kids don't want to read, sirry whitu piggu.
>>342644961
>>342644675
>>342644678
Fuck
I don't even care what personality they give him, I'm just asking for consistency, Treehouse.
>>342644730
Holy shit that's fucking lazy.
>b-but it's p-p-paper...
>>342635953
I miss it when game developers were virtually anonymous.
Other M set a really bad precedent with Nintendo fans and how they discuss developers.
>>342639803
>175 health
paper mario had a good health system with low numbers that didn't need to be changed
but you know HIGHER NUMBAHS MORE EXTREME LOL YUGIYOOOO
>>342636463
Toads are easily flexible for any position except being bad guys, though they did that whole shufflegate joke
They want them them to be the new minions
>>342644316
>>342645186
The paper excuse doesn't even make sense there since right after he gets out of the vortex thing his L is corrected when turning.
>>342636464
He's fucking paper
>>342639873
>still blaming Miyamoto
>Make a paper Mario game using the Mario world
>>>Tanabe: Okay I'll make toads the only NPC'z
>make WORDS WORDS WORDS: The Game
>fans get kinda annoyed at extreme amount of story and mention they want less story in a survey
>THAT'S IT, NOBODY WANTS A STORY IN A MARIO GAME EVER AGAIN!
why
>>342645551
Miyamoto sperged out over Rosalina and her backstory.
Paper Mario 1-3 still keep him awake at night.
If you think he didn't influence the direction of SS you're pretty naive.
>>342645103
To be fair this is only his second speaking appearance. I guess being a dumbass is their idea to separate Morton from the other big guys.
>>342641881
>>342642093
Hey fuckboi's
How about stop comparing games with two different design philosophies
Sticker Star/Color Splash is heavy with puzzle elements
The entire game is a giant puzzle game
>>342642850
Really curious what this entire segment is with the pirate ship
Traditional Giant Blooper boss or bust
Paper Jam gets a pass because it still followed M&L tradition of Wiggler boss
>>342645819
>puzzle
>find the dumb object so you can press a button to kill the boss
wew
Just wew.
>>342640874
>>Flurry has no tits
that would be a good thing, she's the worst character in the game and her braless tits are part of the reason, next to her body fat and complete lack of a personality other than OMG I'M A THICK BEAUTIFUL MOVIE STAHworst partner of all time, even the pixls were better
>>342635953
Miyamoto needs to die or let fresh blood take control of Mario already. The fact that he dislikes stories in a mario game is ridiculous. They should be attempting to do what the Kirby games have been doing for the past 3 games, slowly making lore in the background of things while having the main story happen relatively unaffected. It keeps things relatively simple while adding depth and character to the games. Something like the Rosalina story was a step in the right direction, but Miyamoto as we know is not a big fan of that
>>342645726
Im not denying his influence
But representing the Mario World in an RPG/Action Puzzle game can do more than simply Toad NPC's
>sperged out at Rosalina
That's a meme
Miyamoto doesn't hate story, he just doesn't want story to be the focus point of a Mario game
But Color Splash's negative reactions aren't going to go unnoticed, but that's for after, they aren't changing the current game
>>342646083
is something the matter anon? you seem to be irrationally angry over this
>>342639527
That's too unique.
I don't mind the paper asthetic and inflated numbers.
But yeah, bring back an actual RPG with partners and proper characters.
>>342642090
Treehouse has been around since the SNES. Though I will say they weren't nearly as shitty in 2004.
>>342635785
Okay hold the fucking phone.
Is that a black outline
over a paper outline
over another black outline?
Jesus.
>>342646391
Say it with me.
DUDE
PAPER
LMAO
>>342646391
Yeah, there's apparently a big story behind the choice of doing that according to >>342635953 I'm really curious what story is.
>I dun want Paper mario 3DS be a TTYD rehash
Remind me again how miyamoto was perfectly fine with Color Splash being a Sticker Star rehash after going on the record with his previous statement.
>People still blaming Miyamoto
>Still using the meme that he hates story
>Going to reply saying HIS INFLUENCE
>Ignoring that we could've had a great RPG with great gameplay and great Mario representation if Tanabe didn't choose this garbage design
>>342646496
>big story
I'll tell you what happened.
>How can we make these characters look more like paper?
>Put a white background behind the sprite.
>But now it looks shit against the backgrounds.
>Put another outline over it then.
>>342642850
Color Splash has some pretty cool ideas like the pirate ship minigame and enemy HP bars replaced by their color draining.
>>342635953
>"his kid has recently been really into painting"
Was Splatoon not good enough for the kid?
>>342646815
Color Splash is essentially great execution of a shitty idea
We are going to see some good flexibility with the style
>>342646726
Man I didn't even think of this. You make a good point
>>342642116
>>342646380
They only got bad when it came to a few instances in games (leetspeak in Mario & Luigi PiT and TW101), 2015 and onwards was when their decline happened.
>>342645485
I just realized when making this webm that the game will be more linear again if the Big Paint Stars unlock the next area unlike Sticker Star.
>>342646815
It's possibly too soon to say this since we don't know how many there are but honestly I hate the fact they're doing (possibly many) mini-games. The originals had a couple but I don't want it to be the main focus like how Mario & Luigi can be at times (not that M&L is bad, it's just that aspect is big killer to me in the series).
>>342647094
>2015
Nah, the memespouting really started around 2012/2013.
>>342635785
>game studios don't need "Idea Guys"
This one did.
>>342642418
I admit it, I actually laughed. This was only because the expectations were low, thinking the fan was just gonna pish the ship to the island. What sold it was the toads freaking out and Mario just standing there, possibly enjoying the fact he was so close to drowning a toad.
>>342645939
Fuck. I really wanted a Gooper Blooper boss fight. With 3d and Paper Blooper playing Patty cake and high fiving and shit.
>>342647191
>You got a BIG PAINT STAR
Wow, that's great...yeah... I beat the koopaling guy I guess...
I can't wait for the refinements Color Splash will bring to the table. Sticker Star already did a lot of things right, but it's not perfect. I've been liking what I saw from the treehouse streams, so I am quite optimistic here!
>>342647948
Here's your (You)
>>342647948
You're a dirty coyote Cody
>>342647948
Oh boy it's this guy again
>>342647948
Just fuck off already.
>>342642184
It wouldn't be as good and I would complain, but I would still buy it new.
>>342646462
DUDE
PAPER
LMAO
I hate Sticker Star, but since Color Splash looks to be finally doing a different thing instead of being a bastardized transition phase like Sticker Star was, I don't think I can say I hate the way it looks.I'd still prefer an old fashioned Paper Mario title, but Color Splash looks okay given the vibe it's going for.
>>342645948
There's a lot of objects anon
Your supposed to know which is the weakness
>>342647948
If you're going to shill, why even post that picture?
>DUDE BOWSER LMAO
>DUDE HE HAS NO PERSONALITY LMAO
>DUDE HE CAN'T EVEN SPEAK LMAO
>DUDE STICKERS LMAO
>>342648149
>some fag posts a shitty opinion
>"AUTISM! XD"
Every time. You guys are more autistic than diagnosed autistics.
>>342648831
He's an attention whore
He wants his presence to be known
I'm surprised he isn't a tripfag yet
>>342647639
The beach didn't even get a real boss outside he mandatory koopalings pairing
Missed opportunity there
>>342647948
Look I'm looking forward to Color Splash too mainly because of the graphics and puzzles
But you don't need to do it with the same goddamn image and sound so pretentious
Just be a namefag, it's easier than posting that
>>342648878
Not him but he posts this every time there's a Paper Mario thread
>>342648878
No, he's autistic for posting the same shit every thread. He also apparently does this shit in Star Fox & Metroid threads I heard.
>>342649042
>Shills Nintendo on /v/
>Shills Nintendo on Metacritic
>Shills Nintendo on Miiverse
Would you believe he posted a screencap of his own Miiverse account yesterday?
I feel people are forcing themselves to hate the Artstyle
They nailed the Paper Mario aesthetic
They just need to tone down the usage of Paper and be more unique with the artsyle and add other details to make them look less generic
>>342649323
If the DUDE PAPER shit was cranked up to 11 in 64 and TTYD, no one would be complaining about its presence here.
They're only complaining because it's in the games that they don't like.
>>342638807
That's actually an M&L:PJ toad art, everything has black outlines around them. Merely a coincidence
>>342649447
And to give Color Splash some credit, it's using the "Paper" them really well. I would have loved to see some of this shit in 64 or TTYD.
But it's stuck with these mediocre messes
>>342649447
the DUDE PAPER also never actually affected battles in any way, they were usually overworld effects and often used as rare gags. Mario floats down through the air, the paper curses from the black chests, and the goomba castle you destroy for example
How to fix CS's battle system
>cards are not one time use
>every card is unique but you start out with jump and hammer
>cards you pick up are variations on Mario's normal moves
>you set up your deck with cards you find and those are the abilities you can use in battle
>cards have level requirements and special cards use FP
>>342649323
If the game looked like this, but played like an RPG, I'd be totally fine with it. The problem is that the game looks boring, and they can't go ten steps without showing off the fact that everything is paper
>>342648904
A trip would make him easier to filter
Anybody got the screen cap of the mansion filling up on the map screen?
I really hope we get to fight Paper King Boo
>>342649042
>shokio
Ah yes, the nintendrone who defends NoA and criticizes nintendo games for all the wrong reasons, and attacks others who make critique (while performing the most insane mental gymnastics to look at their arguments in the most absurd ways). Went from hero to zero, what a fucking shame.
Reminder that even fans can think up millions of different character while Tanabe and company can only think of Toads and an object with eyes
>>342650686
>defends NoA
Considering he's the brother of BBC I wouldn't be to surprised that he's flabbergasted by how people are mad about the localization
>>342640750
ok this is pretty silly.
>>342650686
Shut up BlackB0nd
>>342650810
It's not that they can't, they aren't allowed to
>>342650810
Literally what the fuck is stopping anyone from making a Paper Mario fangame. No one is taking down the guy who's updating the first Paper Mario, so really.
>>342650972
No one cares.
>>342650908
Who isn't letting them?
>>342642303
Those are visual gags (or gimmicks if you prefer) and not mechanical gimmicks, though.
>>342650978
Making an engine and sprites, besides a good story is really hard
Else you get an edgy/cliche'd mess
>>342650972
>"look mom I posted it again!"
>>342647265
I thought it began with Partners in Time L33T speak?
>>342641716
FUCKING TINGLE TUNER, FUCK
FUCKING FUCK FUCK I WAS SO EXITED TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE ELSE BUT NO, FUCK THE GAME PAD, THE FUCK WE NEED THAT PIECE OF SHIT FOR? LETS JUST ADD SOME FUCKING MIIVERSE SHIT
FUCK
>>342650978
There's potential in us getting Paper Mario-esque games eventually. There's PaperBugDev working on one, an another Anon making a fangame with a mafia Gloomba, another unnamed one from twitter & Yacht Club Games seems to be interested in making a Mario RPG of sorts. Plus hacking Paper Mario while still has a long time to get made is starting to shape up a little more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w4FGwguIPA
Lets look at it this way
It already got the massive negativity that Nintendo can't simply ignore but can't do anything about he final product and a lot of you aren't going to touch it anyway
And it's a shame that this shitty idea is still getting great execution
So I'm just going to give myself the expectations of what I already experienced with Sticker Star and look at the positives
>Color meter exp and psuedo partner enemy cards give you a reason to go into battles
>No more needing to bring a 3D Object, back to town to transform into a sticker
>The world in general is more creative than how generic SS was
>Music already sounds better than sticker star
>The execution is even better and funnier than the random moments in Sticker Star
>A personal nitpick of mine, Shy Guys are actually wearing spike hats this time compared to Goomba's folding themselves to be pointy
>We might see Kamek again, who was by far the best thing to come out of SS
>>342652786
>psuedo partner enemy cards give you a reason to go into battles
The "partners" die in one hit, and do fuck all for damage
>>342649161
Did he really?
>>342636464
don't worry anon. i got it.
>>342652786
>psuedo partner enemy cards give you a reason to go into battles
I disagree with this part, they look pretty useless based on how weak & easily wrecked it gets in >>342643319
>Music already sounds better than sticker star
Sounds about on par, which is still good mind you.
I agree with the rest I guess, I can't be optimistic in the slightest though regardless.
>>342652341
That was an isolated incident.
>>342653024
It appears so, in was in a Federation Force thread
Archive's not working but he posted a screencap of this
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHlMGSFkdg
saying that he'll use it in Metroid threads from now on to let his presence be known.
I did some digging and from what it looks like it's his actual Miiverse account
See >>342649042
His first post of Sticker Star's final boss was on April 7th 2016 where he asked for help on said boss.
On the same day he beat the game
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHlE0cRTmg
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/CodyCoyote64
>>342635953
>new kind of paper-based theme we haven't thought of
Can't wait to Toilet Paper Mario
>>342653412
He actually bought Style Savvy?
>>342653701
Maybe?
Also the exact Metroid thread in question
>>342558845
And his Metacritic account
http://www.metacritic.com/user/CodyCoyote64
If you're still not sure that could be him look into his play journal and see
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/CodyCoyote64/diary
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHlHZVj6SA
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHlEWmijZA
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADV0Z4AL5HgQ
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHlEraQhyQ
>>342654030
Has he bitched about PM64 on the Miiverse for it? Or anywhere aside from here?
>>342654030
>nearly 3000 posts
Why though? It's nothing but literal underage.
>>342654117
Nope but he did say this
https://twitter.com/CodyCoyote64/status/743225098358820865
Anyways we're moving off topic and lets leave it as that
>>342654468
idk man this threads getting kind of slow.
>>342654662
So are you 100 percent sure it's the same guy?
I remember seeing this post pop up on /v/
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHksV9m_Fw
>>342654190
Remember he's an attention whore and a drone
>>342635953
>People liked the RPG elements, colorful characters, puzzles, and humor from the first two Paper Marios
>So let's remove the RPG elements, change the colorful characters into identical Toads, and keep the puzzle solving and humor
>>342655687
>humor
The earlier games had more than just "LOOK I'M PAPER :D"
>>342654662
Holy shit it is him
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADV0Z6uWDLbg
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADV0Z7XbL0rQ
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADV0Z6XUfvCA
>>342655808
Only the original game had that. The "LOOK I'M PAPER :D" shit started with those stupid fucking curse gimmicks in TTYD.
>>342655883
Hell they even advertised that in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDzjy4j0ZI
>>342655883
>>342655983
The difference is that using Paper abilities are curses and other characters have no idea how the fuck they work, because they're unaware of their existence as paper.
>>342655814
Christ I thought he was just a shitty troll but turns out he's actually serious.
>>342656128
Exactly this, they're totally aware of how they're paper now just based on Huey's comment alone in >>342645485
I want to cum all over Starlow.
>>342656509
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>342639281
I forgot the series was called sticker mario.
>>342647191
>how can we rehash the sunshine shine sprites?
>I KNOW
>>342656647
CodyCoyote64 is a Miiverse thread goldmine
>>342643486
>Miyqmoto Miiyamoto its all his fault!!!!
No it is not.
>>342656128
There's little difference. Both ways are acknowledgements of the art style being more than just an art style.
The original Paper Mario game didn't call attention to the paper, it was just presented as a story book. TTYD and the later games moved toward "hey, what gimmicks based on paper can we insert into this game so that we can acknowledge the paper aesthetic?"
>>342647191
That's a BIG paint star.
I honestly hated Super Paper Mario for a lot for a lot of reasons, but one thing I hated the most about its aesthetic besides lolfloatingmath is how everything was a bunch of literal fucking shapes.
Goddamn that was some ugly ass shit.
>>342657534But they were fun.
>>342638531
>Toads are from Mushroom Kingdom
>game takes place on Prism Island
>WOOOOOOW THERE ARE MUSHROOM KINGDOM INHABITANTS ON PRISM ISLAND BRAVO SHITENDO
>>342647191
>mfw overworld map
>>342645819
>Not telling the player how to use consumable items is considered a "puzzle"
>>342648831
PRETENDO
>>342635953
Not directly related to Paper Mario but...
>that stern 4-hour "talk" Miyamoto had with Koizumi where he shit on his ideas of the importance of story in games. The man who brought us the back story of Link To the Past, the full stories of Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask, and the optional backstory of Rosalina is now apparently doomed to just making mario levels.
So is the combat actually WORSE than in sticker star?
Coloring and flipping cards make everything more tedious and slow, and the insane amount of damage dealt by bosses and Things makes impossible to beat them the "hard" way.
I never played Sticker Star, but could you actually combine different stickers into mixed-abilities?
Such as loading up a fire flower and hammer to make a fire hammer?If not, then what a fucking waste.
>>342659230
of course not, that would require actual creativity.
>>342659230
That would be creative and interesting.
Of course you couldn't do that.
>>342653131
What if you get an enemy card of a stronger enemy then? You have to remember a Shy Guy..... well he's a fucking Shy Guy. I wouldn't judge an entire system based on one dinky low-level mook
>>342659218
4 Hours?
>>342639803
>characters are literally 2D objects with very limited animation
>stage has minimal geometry and very rudimentary lighting
>still runs at 30FPS
So this is the power of the Wii U.
Will there ever be TRICK moves in a Mario RPG ever again?
Loved alternating B and A in TTYD
>>342639803
>175 health
B R A V O
R
A
V
O
>>342659218
>four hours
Is Shiggy autistic or something?
>>342659523
Yeah, it's in the Mario Galaxy 2 Iwata Asks. Apparently, Miyamoto wasn't paying attention to the story elements that were being added to Galaxy 2. Because he didn't like the story elements in the first Galaxy, he then had a long talk with Koizumi to get rid of those elements.
>>342640750
That's.. an alright gag, I suppose.
>>342660708
Damn
>>342660619
Maybe the game is just that long, it's been in development since 2012 after all :^)
>>342640750
The bucket should've stopped with "WHAT?!" but still good
>>342645819
Brainless puzzles though
>>342644243
>This hole... it was made for me
>>342660703
He's old and wants to feel like he has control with his most prized creation
>>342641530
That's actually from them fucking up the timed hit with spring jump
>>342660708
>tfw you wish your video game hero would just retire/die already
One of the problems with Color Splash is that it has a few decent ideas, but they're executed horribly.
>>342642628
>Luigi leaves the game because it sucks
>>342662515
I'd say it's the opposite. Terrible ideas executed perfectly.
>>342656623
Noted.
>>342642628
He just walks off on the ocean, lookit him go!
>>342662614
What I meant is that there are a few decent ideas in this shit pile that could be fixed, like the card system, as this anon >>342649827 pointed out. Things should be removed altogether, though
>>342662350
They'd respect his wishes and desires for the series.
Japanese honor or something
>>342643424
>BRING MORTON PEDAL STOOL
>>342643732
>Paint meter is a barrel AND a hammer for EXP
huh
>>342644316
>>342645485
>that slight vignetting
the cheapest, shittiest of visual effects to put in any game
Well?
https://www.strawpoll.me/10580854
>>342652758
Give me links to all of them
>>342664396
Here is for paperbugthing http://paperbugdev.tumblr.com/
Don't know about the other ones, but the anon making the one with the mafia goomba comes now and then on /agdg/ and PM threads
>>342664396
Top-left: https://twitter.com/adamgryu
PaperBugDev: http://paperbugdev.tumblr.com/
The bottom-left one is Anonymous & are only shown on here I believe.
Yacht Club Games are the people who made Shovel Knight, you should be able to easily Google them.
>>342664337
>pirate it
but how
is it going to be for the 3ds?
or have they managed to break into the wii u already?
>>342665171
You can pirate games on the Wii U now. I don't know how it works so go to the Homebrew General on >>>/vg/ for details or something.
>Color Splash is able to be pirated from Day 1
>Almost everyone playing it pirated it
>hundreds of thousands playing it
>sales only amount to like 1000
>yfw
>>342661218
Remember, this game IS for children of all ages, they need to spell out the joke at bare minimum.
>>342641881
>Not only does it use a special one item boss shit
>It makes it so it is nigh impossible to win without it because boss deals Two hit KO moves.
>Grass world
>Desert world
>Beach world
>Purple swamp forest world
>Ice world
>Jungle world
>Cliffs world
>Cloud world
>Volcano world
modern Mario is such fucking cancer
it saps the creativity out of everything it touches
>>342664396
>>342664932
Aye, I usually lurk PM threads when I see them for any inspiration/ideas of what people are looking for, but I won't be making any kind of blog to avoid C&D shit.
Also, my stuff is probably the least far along, since I still have to redo some of the base coding/logic that I have for the structure.
Making the thing in Unity cause it's what I know how to use, but slowly learning about important code things I should have used from the start like dictionaries and other shit.
>>342665892
>It makes it so it is nigh impossible to win without it because boss deals Two hit KO moves.
git gud
>>342641881
OH COOL ITS EXACTLY LIKE STICKER STAR
REMEMBER HOW NINTENDO DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A SEQUEL TO TTYD CAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO SAMEY? I GUESS THATS NOT A PROBLEM ANYMORE
>>342642283
>>342640348
>>342642418
This game is too pretty to be such a bastardization of the paper mario rpg series.
fuck nintendo
>>342665953
I'd suggest making the Lava Bubble green, since that's is a color that fire can be, and not something people ever really think of, but you've already got the Jungle Guy or whatever it's called
>>342666167
Nah m8, Miyamoto said the game was literally the same as TTYD, and Tanabe and the other fuckups took that to mean SCRAP EVERYTHING
>>342666273
>MIYAMOTO DINDU NUFFIN
dont start this argument
only fags start this argument
>>342645819
Hmm let's see
Fire Extinguishers put of fires
Fans blow things away
Heaters FUCKING HEAT THINGS UP
OH GEE FUCKING WHIZ BATMAN I THINK I FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO USE BASIC FUCKING OBJECTS
WHAT'S THAT? THAT WAS A PUZZLE? THEN CALL ME FUCKING HERSHEL BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE EASIEST FUCKING "PUZZLES" I HAVE EVER DONE.
I HAVE LITERALLY TAKEN SHITS MORE ENGAGING THAN THIS, WHEN HAVING TO CALCULATE THE EXACT ANGLE OF SHIT PELLET EXTRUSION TO AVOID SPLASHBACK AFTER EATING SOME FUNKY FOOD.
tl;dr FUCK YO SHIT NIGGA
how could you fix these games other than a decent story and partners?
>special movies created by certain sticker/card combinations like a fire flower + hammer = Fire Hammer, or some combination that damages enemies and heals you?
> skip your turn so you don't waste moves on untouchable enemies
>EXP that increases either your defense, effectiveness of stickers, or learning new sticker combinations
>gear that can increase chances of finding shiny or flashy stickers or increase coin drops
>different sticker books that have various effects like one can make all stickers the smallest size possible in exchange for slightly reducing their attack power, or increase the power of attack or healing stickers
>>342666273
>I'd suggest making the Lava Bubble green
Not him but here's that. They're called Phantom Embers in TTYD.
>>342641881
WHAT DO THE KIDS LOVE?
THEY LOVE LONG, NON-INTERACTIVE BATTLE CUTSCENES RIGHT?
THEY LOVE BRAINLESS PUZZLES THAT TURN THE BOSSFIGHTS INTO A JOKE, RIGHT?
>>342666754
Well shit.
>>342641881
I don't understand how Nintendo could be so out of touch
Its not like Sticker Star sold particularly well, and the scores were substantially lower than every other PM game. Why do they think anybody wanted a sequel that was exactly the fucking same? Isn't that why they made Shitter Star instead of a TTYD sequel?
I need to stop trying to understand Nintendo. Everything they do is such a colossal fuck up.
>>342666273
>Miyamoto said the game was literally the same as TTYD
and that would have actually been better accepted than the final result
>>342665953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored_fire
If the Lava Bubble is a girl, you can make it Violet, Purple, or Dark Red
>>342667105
They mentioned in the Iwata Asks interview that they "worked hard to make [Sticker Star] the new standard for Paper Mario."
>>342667181
nah man, shit's dumb
Sticker Star I can forgive as a fucked up experiment. But doing the exact same thing twice? It's just insulting.
>>342667105
Because right after they finished Sticker Star, they instantly started making Color Splash because some fuckwad said his nephew or son liked painting.
The interests of 1 kid is apparently the interests of them all.
>>342665953
if your making a PM game
would >>342666643 have possibly made sticker star any better?
>>342665696
Kids are not that stupid.
>>342667105
This is said a lot in these threads but keep in mind they started development on Color Splash right when Sticker Star was finished (read >>342635953 for more information) so they didn't get to see feedback before it was too late or they're still totally unaware of it. Also while I admitted don't know much about sales they were about on-par with the rest I think. This is posted a lot when sales are brought up anyways.
>>342667351
>We worked hard to shit all over a franchise
>>342667418
Wanna bet?
>>342667459
>they started development on Color Splash right when Sticker Star was finished
why?
is it ok to make brainless, samey sequels as long as its Tanabe's shitty idea, and nothing like classic PM?
To the FanDevs in the thread, will you include any jabs at SS and CS?
>>342667642
THICK
>>342659501
>>342659515
Okay.
I had a feeling.
Guess "Program Advances" are out then.
>>342667384
I actually didn't play sticker star, but from what I've seen of it, EXP definately would be a start.
Combining stickers would also be pretty fun.
One anon in a past thread suggested brining in the stickers as a kind of alternate badge system, with the badges being abilities while the stickers are passives/buffs, working like the Subspace Emmisary's sticker stuff.
Once I get further into the programming, I'll definately be looking at ways to tweak the gameplay enough so it's not just TTYD over again, but it's still Paper Mario as an RPG.
>>342662737
QUALITY AAA DEV TEAM
>>342667515
What makes you think they're too stupid to play videogames?
>>342642481
Like is Paper Mario in a world within the real world now? I don't understand.
>>342668486
Any lil nigga can push a button.
Understand what they hear?
That different.
>>342668034
>That Toad
>That Phanto GirlPORN WHEN
>everyone complaining about the paper details that they would've praised if the game had turn based battles
admit it, you just decided to hate this game
>>342666869
>THEY LOVE LONG, NON-INTERACTIVE BATTLE CUTSCENES RIGHT?
>THEY LOVE BRAINLESS PUZZLES THAT TURN THE BOSSFIGHTS INTO A JOKE, RIGHT?
I like how everyone gives games like Final Fantasy shit for this, yet when its in nintendo, it's perfectly fine because "lol idz funii joek".
Not saying that's the sentiment here, but rather of lots of people elsewhere.
So if it really was a Watergate ref, then it was about
Five Guys:Burglars and Spies
>>342667351
Sticker Star had the potential to be a great game, but how could they completely fail to address any of its flaws?
You've still got no EXP and no customization
You've still got no characters, making the world feel incredibly generic
You've still got no real reason to get into fights, because your only commodity is coins
The old guard at Nintendo and Intelligent Systems need to go the fuck away. They have no idea how to make an engaging video game at this point.
This could be neet if they actually fix the problem with fighting in sticker star.
>>342668825
the game does have turn-based battles
Daily reminder Sticker Star was a bigger success than the first 2 games
>b-but that's because there's a lot of 3ds owners
the previous game didn't have turn battles at all, people bought the game without expecting exp and grinding
>>342668621
Actually, the Phanto girl (who I'm intending as the main villain) got most of her design with the help from a porn artist in a shygal thread over on /trash/.
The toadNaz T.is planned for later into the game.
Bad thing is I have way more plans for the future than I've had progress with the engine lately. Really need to get my real work done so I can get back to getting the basics of the game's code finished up.
>>342668885
5 guys arrested for shuffling papers
>>342668825
No, I found the paper shit annoying from the first chapter of Sticker Star
>>342635953
>DURR IT'S ALL MIYAMOTO'S FAULT THE BASED IS DEVELOPERS WERE BEING OPPRESSED BY HIS IDEAS!
Daily reminder that at no point did Miyamoto ever tell them to remove partners, remove the level-up system or only use Toads. That was all IS.
>>342669164
>expecting exp and grinding
Are you talking about SS or SPM? Because SPM did have experience and leveling up.
>>342669164
>sold less than SPM
>lowest attach rate out of any PM game
>worst critical reception, nearly 10 points lower on metacritic
>>342669347
>MIYAMOTO DINDU NUFFIN
Star Fox Zero should be evidence enough of how out-of-touch Shiggy has become
>>342669164
Right, so when this game ends up being the worst selling Paper Mario game (attach rates or not) for being on a dead system, where will they go from here?
>>342669319
liar
>>342668905
But this is being headed by a young girl.
>>342670113
then I guess everything is fucked
maybe its time to grow up and quit vidya
>>342670113
No, Tanabe is still the Producer. Tabata is just the Assistant Producer.
>>342642510
>If it was LOL PAPER in the first 2 games no one would be complaining
But the dude paper lmao moments were in TTYD, and they were horrible.
>>342635785
This and Toad Party has me convinced someone at Nintendo REALLY likes Toad.
>>342669758
>Literally forcing a control gimmick because he felt he had to, not because the game needed it
It hurts
>>342667893
YES THICK
>>342669174
Villain or not, I still think she's a semen demon
>>342641037
I never noticed it before, but the original PM uses a really similar art style to Yoshi's Island. Hell most of the enemy designs are lifted straight from that game
>>342668825
No old PM didn't have real world objects and weren't aware they were paper
>>342670113
GO HOME GAMER GURL
>>342670381
no they weren't
>>342650810
>that piranha plant girl
CUTE
Wait, did people really not like the paper segments from TTYD?
I thought they were a decent break from the usual action. Maybe a bit dull at times, but not outright bad.
>>342647948
If you're not b8ing, what do you think Colour Splash actually improves?
It looks like they've ported over every single flaw in Sticker Star. From the fundamental shit like having a combat system with zero customizability, down to the little annoying things like "thing" stickers activating long non-interactive cutscenes.
For all the high-handed shit they fed us about "not wanting to make a TTYD clone", it looks like Colour Splash is mechanically the exact same game as SS.
Reminder that the original Paper Mario had the better partner designs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M9Uyc34qCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdAa-06-0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqnWoJrlMzc
>PM: Storybook
>TTYD: Storybook
>SPM: Storybook
>SS&CS: Arts & Crafts
why?
>>342673004
They really didn't fully grasp why people enjoyed the early Paper Mario games
will we ever see another pit of 100 trials?
>>342671282
That makes sense actually if you look at the beta images, it just shows how much of it is really based on that game.
>>342646114
The newest Kirby games haven't established much lore compared to the older ones. Adventure, Dream Land 2, Super Star, Dream Land 3, and Kirby 64 each added A LOT more substance, depth, story, lore, character development, and subtext to the Kirby universe than the newest games. And that's with subtle, minimalistic storytelling, too.
But I agree with what you meant. Mario needs to be given depth like they did with the Mario setting in SMB3, SMW, SML, SML2, SM64, and SMS. I leave out SMG because it was generally a retread of previous Mario games but in planetoids, besides Rosalima, Lumas, and the wood guys which I loved. SM3DL and SML3W were vastly worse.
>>342673349
>tfw Poochy will never be used outside of YI
If they ever make a real PM game again I hope Poochy is a partner
>>342673826
autism
>>342672257
I agree. They're simple yet distinct, each with plenty of personality. TTYD made all the NPCs a little overdesigned compared to PM64, which added plenty of variety and unique NPCs without going overboard with the character design.
>>342674284
describe Koops' or Watt's personality
>>342673979
okay
>>342673826
Kirby games do introduce new stuff but it's buries under endless references to,older games. Like for example a giant conglomerate that considers uncivilized planets lesser lifeforms? lolnope it's just notNOVA again here have some Sectonia and Galacta Knight for no reason.
>>342674387
plucky and brash
clumsy and immature
>>342674284
I thought the Yoshi's design was pretty good. Other than that, they can be kind of overdesigned.
>>342674469
I agree, and how Magolor turned out to be notDark Matter and Sectonia only did anything because Amazing Mirror makes her crazy
Not saying they don't introdude anything new or interesting, because they certainly do. Just not as much as before.
>>342673826
This is actually something I haven't considered but makes perfect sense.
Minimalist storytelling/lore/setting is what adds "soul" to a game.
It helps to separate it from previous titles, make the player remember it for its uniqueness that it introduced, and just generally make the whole game "deeper".
Without it the whole experience is just bland.
>>342674469
The ting is the references don't actually change or add anything.
Star Dream being Nova means nothing, just that he copied the design.
Same thing with Dark Matter Swordsman, it's just a replica made purely for being a reference, it could be anything else and not change a thing.
>>342674857
I actually like the Master Crown and the Amazing Mirror.
The connection between Magolor Soul and Dark Matter leads to speculation, and Sectonia having the mirror both gave her some backstory and expanded upon the lore of the mirror itself.
They are of course references first and foremost, but they add to the story and lore.
>>342642283
what the fresh fuck am I looking at
>>342649827
So basically like Chain of Memories
>>342650978
Because making a game with the length and sheer dialogue of a Mario RPG would take more talent and effort than a fan workforce is capable of putting out.
>>342650978
>the only fanbase with the kind of dedication to make a game real is the touhou fanbase
>2hu Paper Mario will never EVER be a reality
I think it's time to just give the fuck up on this series.
>>342678905
>mfw I've made notebooks full of shit for PM styled games based on other series
>but I'll never get anywhere
Would you?
>>342680596
Nah, I think of her as a friend.
>>342680596
I guess
>>342680596
Yeah, sure.
>>342644114
this pose desu
Remember when Paper Mario combat actually gave you options? All the puzzles played out organically, and you had to fight enemies strategically because you were limited to a 2D plane of movement
Sticker Star combat is so mindless. You can only use items. You can only attack the first enemy. Every puzzle amounts to "USE THIS THING STICKER AND WATCH THE CUH-RAZY CUTSCENE"
Who thinks this is fun?
Why is everybody at Intelligent Systems so retarded?
>>342682435
b-but anon, if you want strategic battles, you best purchase Mario & Luigi: Dream Team™ on the 3DS for the low price of $39.99
I mean, how could we-I mean, Nintendo, have two concurrent RPG series involving Mario?
>>342674818
Compare the wizard guys from PM compared to how they look in PMTYD
>>342684114
... magikoopa?
>>342642283
These are pretty damn funny.
>>342665953
>>342668034
I'm not sure, shy guy looks really weird and overdesigned, same with the stone thing
Maybe you could simplify some of it? Also that phanto girl looks pretty cool
>>342684373
Merlin and his sisters or whatever
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