ZERO JUST GOT 2-0'D BY A PALUTENA PLAYER
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ZERO JUST GOT 2-0'D BY A PALUTENA PLAYER
>Zero loses to my secondary
Feels good, man.
>>342611636
Her tits look so good in that picture
>>342612050
It will never be finished.
>>342611636
Lemme guess, Customs.
>>342611636
That sheik nerf really hit him hard, damn
where?
>>342612256
Nope. No customs.
>>342612256
Nope, regular Palu
good
stupid beaner deserved it
>>342612256
DELETE THIS
BEST GIRL PREVAILS
>>342612343
>>342612350
Fucking hilarious.
>>342612303
He lost at CEO. The stream is going on at VGBootCamp's stream right now.
>>342612268
That's why I don't play top tiers, they get nerfed and suddenly their game's all out of whack.
>>342612657
It was needed, Sheik was way too strong compared to the rest of the cast.
>>342612256
Pls post more ryona.
>>342612601
>he can't reverse image search
>>342612946
Here, let me spoonfeed you.
>>342612360
this
everything about zero makes me want to punch him in the face
>>342612916
>instead of helping out anon becomes a dipshit instead
Top Kek m8
>>342612470
wait Scarflard fell from grace? I thought he still had a perfect Sm4sh tournament streak.
>>342612916
it doesn't come up idiot
>>342612601That's the full gif
So now Palutena moves up tiers because he lost to it.
why do we have tiers again?
Here's sauc, only helping because it's Palu.http://pic03.nijie.info/nijie_picture/647_20140612004640_0.jpg
There's no full animated version.
>>342611636
What stream?
>>342612737
I wholeheartedly agree, people who play the 'best' character are the worst kind of person.
>>342613245
He lost a few recently. It wasn't until last week when he beat Nairo in Grand Finals. Before that, he kept getting 2nd place. He lost to Anti, Ally, and Larry Lurr.
>>342613221
>>342613352
>>342612946
Forgot summer was here already.
>>342613463
/vgbootcamp
Match was a while ago, but there's a different Palutena on stream right now.
>>342613373
>why do we have tiers again?
Because people need excuses.
>>342612256
Customs haven't been used in a year
>>342613463
VGBootCamp on Twitch. That Palutena player is doing her justice.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WONDERING
IS PALUTENA THE BEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME
>>342613518
I meant the stream, grandpa.
>>342612050
That's the whole thing, it was never intended to be finished.
>>342613613
>cute
>sexy
>literal goddess
>beat zero
Of course.
>>342613616
>>342612601
>OP post source of your pic u faggot
>meant the stream
dipshit
>>342613403
Doing God's work anon.
>>342613613
AND THE ANSWER IS A RESOUNDING YES!
>>342613730
I'm not him, though?
Why are green hair bitches so great?
>>342613830
now that i realize it
it's a fucking mystery
AND HE'S OOOUUUUT
Is there a ceo melee thread
Here's the video if anyone wants to see it.
https://youtu.be/0ULB1b7Y3M0
>>342613403
>Spoonfeeding
Ya dun goofed
>>342613998
It's Palutena.
Gotta spread the love.
Palutena abest
in b4 everyone saying "I knew Palu was good all along" even though she's still shit and Princeramen is just a god
Palutena's reward will be a Lucina dressed up only in bondage ribbons
I know this is basically a shitposting thread, but it makes me laugh to read some of the opinions around the thread shitting on zero.
He might not be your favorite, but he's legitimately good at the game and he constantly proves it by always finishing in the top 3, so, to me, his opinion on the game and getting gud will always be worth a lot more than the opinion of anyone on this board who plays Smash 4.
I've seen some okay players during the /v/kend tourneys. I, myself, suck ass so I'm not really a personal refference for skills, but it's still laughable that the self-proclaimed best group of circlejerking namefags consider themselves good enough to criticize top play. Nobody here goes beyond being, at best, "okay" at the game.
>>342614415
She's my secondary, but not even I would say she's good. She suffers from some really bad match-ups. Regardless, I'm happy as hell a Palutena player is doing so well with her.
>>342613221
Lurk fucking moar you humongous nigger faggot.
>>342614483
Speak for yourself man, some of us are good in our regions.
GET FUCKED SCARFLARD!
>>342614483
>Shitting on Zero
Nobody is shitting on Zero. He's still the best Smash 4 player and nobody is gonna deny that. It's just hype as hell to see a low tier character like Palutena beat Zero so early in CEO. Zero still has a chance to win this. He's been sent to losers before. I just don't think it's happened this early before.
>>342614483
is this a pasta from /ssbg/
>>342614582
I would say that her up air completely fucks diddy's side b as a recovery, regardless, the guy played amazing.
>>342614716
>He's still the best Smash 4 player
Did i travel back to 2015?
>>342614824
>Thinking anyone else is the best
You're funny, anon.
>>342614415
Nobody's gonna be saying Palu is good.
She's not absolutely terrible, she has some good tools, but she's not good.
Ramen just played well.2 stocks and rage also makes consistency hard
Doesn't this type of shit fall under e-celeb garbage?
Why is it okay when it's Smash players?
>>342614889
Well there is Ally, Larry Lurr, this other guy i dont remember and this Palutena player recently.
Palutena would be great if she could still use Super Speed and Lightweight.
>>342614824
Who would you say is the best? Even when he doesn't win he still makes 2nd.
>>342614952
Because you touch yourself at night.
>>342613995
Thanks friend
>>342614824
Nairo pls leave
>>342613995
thanks bud
>>342614976
They're all good in their own right, but I wouldn't call them the best. They're still hype as hell, though.
>>342614976
Dunno about the best but I think Ally has shot up from top 10 to top 5 or even top 3 nowadays. He's been going nuts.
>got dumped by his fiance
>lost to palutena
What's next for our hero?
>>342614716
ally has consistently pushed zero's shit in
no way in hell is zero currently the best
he's been tilting since earlier this year
>>342615280
>ally has consistently pushed zero's shit in
Hasn't he only beaten him twice?
>>342615258
Did they really break up? What happened?
>>342615280
>he's been tilting since earlier this year
ZeRo's gotten stale. He just rolls and goes for guaranteeds.It's how I 2-stocked his Sheik online. Never gave him a grab
>>342615372
He stopped winning
>>342611636
>Top player loses because he doesn't know how to counter a character no one uses in competitive play
Is this Kusoru all over again?
>>342615368
Thanks flimfam, 'preciate it.
>>342615258
Is she dating another guy already?
>>342612125
>Zero loses to my main
Feels better man. I hope that I don't run into a bunch of shitters trying to play her on FG now though.
>>342613995
Thanks anon. Zero got bodied
>>342615258
He should have put in the effort to learn another OP character instead of sitting on ass and doing nothing if he wanted to keep her.
>tfw it was probably Mormon
>>342615929
With the balance patches he is going to get assfucked so many times he is going to quit smash4.
>>342615368
DELETE THIS
Also is the the cloth covering her nipple attached to the nnecklace? What the fuck is up with that.
Get ready for a wave of new Palutena players online
>>342615756
>literally three clicks to get to the original image
>less than 5 seconds
>still has to be spoonfed
Why are retards allowed to use the internet?
>>342613245
He lost that streak in like October dude.
>>342615792
You will but they'll give up soon enough once they get their shit kicked in enough times.
Does anyone else sometimes daydream in the shower about going to a smash tournament and just annihilating everyone and the ground goes wild as you take down the most known players? I would do it with Palutena and Robin. Do I just have autism?
>>342616013
that's what happens when you're a shitter who only plays "the best character"
Fuck I love Armada. Why doesn't Smash 4 have god-tier players like him?
>>342615929
I think he's been learning Cloud too. Not saying it'll help him or not, but he has been practicing with him.
>>342616206
I hope not palutena is boring as shit.
I'd rather watch diddy
>>342613995
PALUTENA IS TOXIC TO THE COMMUNITY. BAN HER!
>>342616408
Do it, anon. Then say you did it for /v/.
Did they ban Bayonetta?
post more palutena
M2K was right. The difference between mid-tier and top-tier isnt that high.
>>342616013
I don't think that is an option for him at this point. He can't go back to melee and nobody plays brawl so he's stuck with 4.
>>342616408Yes and yes
>>342616408
I daydream about playing a 100% optimal Ryu
>>342616602
Nope
>>342616602
No.
It's just that after the recent nerfs, she's not a free top 8 card anymore, so shitters who pikced her up are getting exposed.
>>342614440
That's a cute reward!
>>342616408
I'd love to see a Robin do that.
>>342613995
I'm glad these commentators actually see Zero as a human player instead of sucking his dick going all like "it's just part of his strategy guys! I swear he's perfect! Just wait he's gonna win!" like others did in other matches where he was having a bad time.
That was a pretty short lived experience, why the fuck aren't tourneys 3 stocks already?
>>342616408I guess I'm not the only one
we have the same mains
>>342616937
The off chance someone wants to play the great stall game or has the worst luck getting a ko.
So he gets bodied hard enough until rage lets him kill Diddy?
Gotcha.
>>342616408Daydreaming allows you to have enough positive vibrations which can be used to change reality if used properly, so keep at it anon and hit training mode as much as you can
>>342616408
I dream of winning a tournament with Pit and Alph.I can't even stay in the winners bracket at my local college tournament because this one faggots Charizard and this girl's Shulk
>>342616704
>perfect shielding jab strings
>spotdodging giant punches like Mac and DK then following up with True Shoryuken
>long flawless combo strings in general
I share your dream anon.
>>342616408
I dream the same, but with Falco.
>>342616937
2 stocks are too short. 3 stocks are too long. There's no balancing it.
I guess this is a good enough thread for it.
How do I git gud with the Puffball?
>>342613995
Good fucking lord, I used to think vanilla Palutena was scrub tier but holy shit when did she become able to body Diddy like that?
>>342616937
From what I've heard from EU, which runs 3 stock, it doesn't really help the situation.
>>342617401
Maybe this will help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVWaY2pm44
>>342617401
>>342617728
Oops. Thought you meant Jigglypuff. So used to hearing people ask how to get better with her. Oh well.
So has any relevant tech been found for Robin over the past 6 months? I've been away from home and want to get back to Levin Uairing faggots.
>>342617264
I picked up Alph recently and I made it to the semi finals in my area by pure cheapness. I just spammed side b whenever I had the chance and then waited for them to mess up. People get pretty desperate when you chip them down to 200% damage and you're still at 13%. I only lost because I got too confident and decided I didn't need alph to win and went olimar. Nah but in all seriousness I got stopped by truly awesome Ryu
>>342617449
She is. Ramen was just able to make her work.
>>342617401
Use Inhale, avoid Copy.
>>342617401
Same as JigglyPuff. Once you're in, go ham. Your smashes are all great and hard to punish. Go offstage as often as possible and got for those sweet gimps (Bair, Dair). Kirby is the best as early gimps. Always try them.
>>342617986
Unless Ramen is so far superior to Zero that he could beat him with any character I dont think thats how that works
I haven't really followed this game. Was Rosalina nerfed at some point?
>>342618131
He's a good player but he just knows what to do with Palu too, he was using a small bit of her moveset throughout most of the match since her tilts, smashes and specials are so situational it hurts.
>>342618341
No. Thank fuck I don't run into a lot of them.
>>342618341
Not that I know, in fact, she got small nerfs every now and then, even as silly as giving luma 5 extra HP.
>>342618341
Im hopping 1.1.7 fuck her with a 10 inches THICC cuck right in dat anus.
>>342618341
She was nerfed hard with the Wii U launch, but she's still Top 10.
>Luma used to be able to act while Rosa was in hitstun
>Repeating jab killed
Truly the darkest of times
>>342619065
Is this a sentence?
is this how /pol/ talks off a keyboard?
>>342611636
That's what happens when you duck a character that was never a tournament threat for months.
>>342618341
>playerbase seemed to forget how nuts Blue Peach was in just the span of a year
Fuck, even EVO 2015 didn't have a lot of Blue Peach. Maybe the game is getting better after all.Hope she's the first on the 5mash chopping block.
Palu's grab range is so fucking LONG
>you will never /ss/ with palutena
why even live
So what happened to Meta Knight?
I have no WiiU so I never played the game
did they really nerf him so hard that he's useless now?
>>342613373
Palutena is only going to move up if people consistantly get top 4 or win with her.
This is just a moment where a high level player got bopped by another high level player using a low tier character.
>>342613221
are you 12?
>>342619509
He was nerfed hard from Brawl to Smash 4, but he's still good.
The last patches did "remove" a certain kill option he had, which involved carrying the other playing with a string of up-airs into an up-b
>>342613373
That's not how tiers work. She'll stay bottom unless she starts topping.
I WANT TO INHALE PAULETNAS FARTS
>>342619674
>she will never sit on your face and shit in your mouth
>>342619621
>they removed it
what the fuck, how and why
killing scrubs like that was fun as fuck in Brawl
>>342619674
>>342619750
Remove fartfags and scatfags.
>>342619762
IIRC they chnge the knockback from up-air to send slightly more horizontal than before.
It's still possible to do it, but it's harder since you can escape it more easily.
>>342612657
Perhaps Samurai could have gotten his head out of his ass, then simply improved the other characters drastically enough to compete.
This is just what happens when your game is technically deficient, and there aren't ways of equalling the ground between characters by mastering techs as the better player. Smash 4 and Brawl are far more divided and broken than melee can ever be.
>>342619824
REMOVE THIS!
*PRRFFFFFFFFFFFTFTFTFFFFFFFFFFTFRFT*
>>342619889
Because neutering a single character is much easier than going through 57 other ones, trying to improve them while hoping you don't create another situation where a character is absurdly strong compared to the rest.
>>342619871
that's just shit
didn't they also remove his gliding in Sm4sh?
>>342616602
She got shit on by nerf's So no.
>>342619889
>Perhaps Samurai could have gotten his head out of his ass, then simply improved the other characters drastically enough to compete
I haven't followed the patches in a long while.
How's my boy holding up, both in balance and in tourneys?
>>342620121
Perhaps they should have made the game mechanically sound in the first place, lol - it should have been obvious from the very start how fucked Shiek and Diddy were.
>>342613995
>You will never be the singular god of this garbage game
>>342620210
Yes, but gliding was removed in general - Pit doesn't have it either.
>>342613245
ZeRo took a few months off from Smash, so he's not nearly as dominant as he was before.
Are there any proZeldaplayers in Smash 4?
>>342620294
Why would they do that? I could understand removing the ability to attack while gliding but removing it all together? how exactly does Meta Knight save himself from getting thrown off-stage with just a fucking loop?
>>342620554
Because gliding was a useless, stupid addition to Brawl and we were better off without it.
Stream is back up
>>342620224
Ryo just got bopped by a Ryu. Most people have switched to Cloud or Corrin, because they can do anything any other sword character can, but better
>>342620520
No one in their right mind would use her for anything pro.
>>342614483
People like seeing the "best" get bopped. it's just a way of human nature and happens in any fucking competitive event, from golf, to soccer, to video games to the Olympics.
Unless you're Humbler than Fred Rogers or are a supreme underdog, there are going to be more people who are rooting against you than for you when you're in the Top Percentage.
>>342620618
It's literally what made the characters worth playing, it was what made up for MK's shit range
i thought about buying a Wii U and Smash but completely fucking characters up is a deal breaker to me, who else got nerfed so hard?
>>342620768
You would say the same about Palutena yet here we are.
>>342620831
>nerfing the only playable character from Brawl is a bad thing
>>342620987
>le brawl is shit xdd
Is Japan good at Smash?I only watch SF, Tekken and BB/GG so I don't know.
So far, two different Palutena players took Zero and 6WX to losers. Holy god.I play both Sonic/Palutena, so it surprises me that she was able to beat a Sonic.
>>342621104
They don't play it competitively.
>>342621104
In a more general sense they're not but they do have some star players.
>>342620987
>it's okay to make this guy shit now because he was good last game
>>342619393
>pls remove this character cuz I don't like it
Literal cancer.
>have a recovery where you need to angle
>angle it to the side
>does side-b and SDs
>have a recovery where it's a teleport
>angle it a little to the side, but not that much
>game inputs it as balls to the wall side and SD
God I hate not having the octagon around the joystick.
>>342614582
You could also say that Scarflard simply wasn't used to that matchup, and the guy who beated him capitalized on that.
>>342619889
because people only use 3 characters in melee
>>342621173
It's all about mad skills m8
>>342614723
Doesn't feel like it, but it certainly could.
>>342621343
Very true. That's certainly a possibility.
>>342619509
They took away his 40% kill and people are too mad to try and use him again, despite the fact that he can still be really good.
>>342621068
It absolutely is though. Brawl's gameplay is literally trash, and so is anyone that defends it.
>>342614952
It's video games, you cunt.
oh shit bidou time
>>342621407
Damn straight. I'm happy as fuck.
>>342611636
please please give me this gif/webm, never seen it animated before
>>342621104
They don't travel like they do for Street Fighter because even if they win, they'd most likley still end up in the negatives due to travel and lodging expenses and that when it comes to sponsors for Smash games, they really only sponsor the very tippy top of players, unlike in street fighter and other gams where as long as you have a tolerable personallity you can get sponsored.
>>342621104
Looks like we're gonna find out now. Nietono is up next on the stream.
>>342613995
>This video is private
>>342615372
The moderately attractive woman realized she was dating a fat ugly loser who wears meme glasses and plays video games for a living.
>>342621564
t. mad melee fag
>>342621497
removing gliding altogether is bullshit though
>>342613152
you sound pretty jealous anon
>>342621939
I think they removed gliding in general to prevent a few timeouts due to it, but that's just speculation on my part.
>>342621939
I'm talking about in 4 anon. He had that shit in 4 but they patched it away thank god. He was A tier for some time and he still could be if anyone feels assed enough to play him.
Gliding is dumb and adds too much mobility to an already extremely mobile character.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY who plays Palutena is not a waifufag.
>>342621848
I wouldn't exactly call Peach, Jiggs and Mario regulars because its really only one player each that keeps them relevant.
C.Falcon is a regular but thta's because everyone wants to be a mememan.
>>342616408
I daydream about playing a 100% flawless Pac-Man.
I wish he was buffed a bit more.
>>342622171
Jokes on you, I've mained her since 3DS day one and she isn't my waifu.
>>342621104
You usually get one in the top eight but they never seem to win.
Fuck if I care. When I perfect my Dedede, Zero is fucking done. The Smash 4 scene will be d o n e.
>>342622171
I play her and I couldn't give two shits about this waifu shit. I just think she's fun to play.
>>342613995
Fuck, someone reupload this video or at least make a webm of it.
They made it private.
>>342620520
Nairo plays her once every blue moon, and I think there's a Zelda player in Japan.
>>342622326
>Maining Dedede
We need more heroes like you, anon.
>>342614483
But he's fat.
Everyone loves watching the fat one suffer.
>>342622326
Girthquake pls
I came to this thread for Palutena porn. I'm disappointed, /v/.
What is it about this character that makes him unbuffable? Don't get me wrong, I win most matches with him because I've played him so long, but it seems like almost every other low-tier main has had a buff to play around with at some point. Actually my secondary, Dr. Mario, hasn't had any buffs either to my knowledge.
>>342622536
What? You dont like Femdom?
>>342622057
Well that'd seem plausible
>>342622119
Time to buy a Wii U and make Meta Knight great again I guess
you guys will be hearing from me ;^)
>>342616408
I daydream about getting gangbanged by Ryu, Mac, and Ganondorf.
twitch /vgbootcamp/v/74250802
1:44:00
>>342619889
To be fair he did improve characters like Ike, Mewtwo, Samus, etc
I mean some characters like Ganondorf and Zelda just kind of have a shit design in general so there's not much you can really do to buff them in patches. GDorf's been buffed a lot but he really hasn't gotten anywhere.
>>342622504
The Smash 4 scene isn't ready for my Dedede yet. I will spend hours in the lab. I am a no bitches boo boo in the ass pizza with my buddies kind of guy. Zero, Ramen, Ben, they all have lives - I do not. They should fear Dedede.
>>342613995
>video private
PLEASE I NEED TO SEE THIS
>>342618341
Rosa's likely still top 5.
She loses to Pikachu, Metaknight, and Cloud, but either goes even with or has the advantage against everyone else.
>>342611636
full pic plz
>>342622830
Doesn't ZSS beat her too?
>>342622958
>it's an anon doesn't read the thread he's posting in episode
>>342622779
Anon, Ganon got his ass bumped out of bottom.
The only character Sakurai hasn't buffed is Jigglypuff. In fact, there has NEVER been any legitimate change to her during the entirety of Smash 4. The only patches that have ever affected her are patches that change variables globally and glitch fixes.
>>342622958
it's literally been posted in the thread, fampai.
>>342622775
Someone make a webm of it.
>>342623059
>Anon, Ganon got his ass bumped out of bottom
has he?
>>342622990
They beat each other with shitty gimmicks.
>>342623203
>Reverse B now has armor
>Nair got a damage buff and executes faster
Don't know what else
>>342623203
As much as he possibly can without changing his play design.
Most of his attacks have gotten damage boots and reduced start/endlag.
All he needs is a real grab range to not be completely garbage.
is there a vid anywhere?
>>342622990
Nope. That matchup's about even. ZSS can start wrecking Rosalina if Luna's gone, but ZSS doesn't have the tools to easily get rid of Luma. If Luma's with Rosa, ZSS can easily get bodied.
Metaknight and Cloud push her shit in because they knock Luma the fuck off the stage with almost every attack, and then she's just fodder for them. Pikachu's actually quick enough and small enough to completely avoid Luma and lay the hurt on Rosa.
>>342623368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cztdpo07_Bw
>>342623027
>>342623062
deleted
>>342623554
Damn this feels so fucking good to watch.nerf diddy's down tilt
TRELA IS NEXT!
>>342623718
Nope, still there.
Hint: it was posted twice, once as an image (which was delted), once as a link, which is still there.
Where the webms at? I want to see some Palutena matches.
>>342622775
fix the link
it doen´t work
>>342623718
>he doesn't have 4chanX or an auto-redirect to the archives.
lol, git gud, you scrub.
>>342612360
>Beaner
He's whiter than 100% of the entire american FGC
>>342624031
Allow us to git gud, but on mobile
>>342624152
That would be nice for a change.
A good tip is to download an imageboard app, because the vanilla mobile sitejust like the desktop oneis garbage.
>>342617248
Just found the least smart person of this thread
DOOD!
>trela ryu beat by Bowser jr
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
>Bowser Jr. made it out of pools
>Jade beat Trela's Ryu
>with Bowser Jr.
CEO is looking nice.
>mechakoopa spike
damn son
Since when did I arrive in Bizarro Earth?
>>342619014
What are you talking about
NEW META INCOMING
is jade a tranny
>>342624376
A favorite for top 4 lost to a girl playing a low tier.
What the fuck is this tournament?
>"""Jade"""
>is just a skinny black dude with a pink scarf
>>342624470
Actual factual female.
Playing Bowser Jr.
Shitting on Trela.
Jade's Bowser Jr just took out Trela's Ryu. What is going on in this tournament?
Since Scarflard had already beaten, when will soniccucks get his shit handed to him in MK
>Tier list
>>342624376
>>342624387
>Ryu
>Top 3 when mastered
>Losing to Mr. Side B Jump Aerial man
What the fuck
>>342624590
>Shitting on Trela.
It was close, though.
>>342624376
meme magic. it's nice seeing top tiers being dominated by "trash" characters.
>Lord Frieza
>doesn't play Mewtwo
>>342624624
A lot of people think Ryu is the best character in the game right now, he just doesn't have the result/players. Zero keeps insisting Ryu is the best, if not in a tier of his own since Bayo nerf.
>>342623554
>just the stock takes
A good Bowser jr. can beat any reee(you)
>>342624717
>tfw trela was a shulk main but fell to the dark side and switched to ryu
>tfw 9B did the same thing
fucking lets get some start up frame buffs sakurai
>>342624776
???
That man just filled his bike with gas
>>342624620
>there's not enough proof these characters are good so they didn't move
>>342624816
MH pls go
>>342624862WAH
>>342613995
VIDEO IS PRIVATE
>low tiers winning
Everyone is tilted by that announcer bitch who won't stop threatening people over the mic.
>>342624891
Well that's how tier lists work anon. Anyone can have a good or bad day. Tier lists are compiled from a lot of tourney gatherings so one guy who has an extremely good day won't cause the lists to fall to shambles.
>>342616013
This is why I'm waiting until the final balance patch before I pick up the game.
>>342625089
I wasn't being completely serious senpai.
>>342624994
Lurk the thread shitstain
>>342623554
Zero disliked this video:^)
>>342615258
I thought they were together again
>>342624326
So I did
>>342613995
>This video is private
>>342616447
don't he play fox now though?
>>342622560
He shitstomps in FFAs by being fat and good smashes. It's not a good reason at all, but it's Sakurai's reason.
>>342625115
>final balance patch
It would be wise to assume the bayo patch was the last one...all i want if a fucking good peach buff or 2 sakurai
>>342625115
Learn 2 adapt
What a bad day to be a top player.
Not like this, Larry Lurr.
>>342625524
START THE /V/KEND
>>342625524
Peach is good anon.
The only thing I can think is shorten the cooldown / startup on turnips.
Anyone has a link to the bracket?
>>342625524
I dont think so, im sure nintendo will let people know which patch is the last one.
>>342625632
*snifff*
ahhhmmmm~
>>342625524
peach needs no buffs
there will probably be a patch once the inevitable NX port comes
>>342622560
Someone on the development team still has nightmares from Brawl DDD, even though his kit has been significantly changed since then.
>>342613682
There is a finished version though.
>>342621104
Some of the top players in the world are from Japan. Ranai is the one I remember off the top of my head, but there are quite a few others. The top Bayo player is from Japan.
>>342625805
Bullshit I heard it was vapor-ware. Where is the "full version" you speak of, Anon?Inb4 spoonfeeding.
>>342625660
>shorten the cooldown / startup on turnips.
That and a moderate buff for her down smash's knockback is all I want.
>>342625808
The top Bayo player is also irrelevant because the character got thrown into the dumpster.
>>342625991
no spoonfeeding
>>342626046
and nothing of value was lost desu.
>>342626046
>tfw Bayo got completely nerfed to the ground
It takes so much effort to even be halfway decent with her. And that's coming from a Palutena main. Did she really need to be nerfed that hard?
>>342612268
well that's what happens when you solely rely on the top tier character to net you wins.
>>342626258
Yes.
Witch time is still a free stock.
>>342613995
Reuploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSNO3go05Eg
>>342626060
After crawling through about 2 Google pages (didn't think it would be that soon) I find out there is no full version.Th-thanks for nothing.
>>342625218
ur mum shitstained the bed last nite
>>342626046
>top bayo player
Pinkfresh shat his pants when she got nerfed...how else would he win?!
>>342625524
Peach has gotten nothing but nerfs since 1.0
fuck Sakurai and his balance team
>>342624490
Who is she and what character was she playing?
>>342625524
Peach is solid, bruh. Jigglypuff needs buffs.
>>342612268
>sheik is now a character with exploitable flaws instead of being a flawless goddess before patches.
let's remember the good times of 3ds and early wii u sheik and her unnerfed fair, up air, back air, bouncing fish......
>>342623554
>people just shoving zero out of the way to hug prince
>that salty walk away
>even one of the announcer is chanting against zero
>>342626574
It's a black guy with a pink scarf.
I thought Vinnie quit?
>>342626440
>Peach has gotten nothing but nerfs
that's not true. her double slap got a tiny tiny buff for whatever reason....yeah....
>>342626821
I think she got a tech nerf involving her turnips. I don't remember the specifics, but Link was hit by the same nerf.
>>342626948
She got infinites removed and a glitch where throwing a turnip cancelled all landing recovery.
>>342626662
everyone needs to fall back to reality eventually. Not hating on zero but it's nice to let someone else have the time to shine especially with a character that the majority had written off without customs
finally decided to play this garbage
it's awful and they gutted Wario's moveset, but they brought back Roy
so the question is, do I main Corrin or Palutena?
Why Does smash.gg suck s much at being up to date with the progression?
https://smash.gg/tournament/ceo-2016/brackets/11789/12882
Isn't it supposed to be the official channel for bracket, what fuck has been put in charge, there?
>>342621712
That's literally it
>>342626948
>>342627006
I missed when floating ignored stale moves. Fresh Fairs all day long.
>exposed shoulder
Fix your shirt, goddamn.
>>342627043
Main a fun character like donkey kong, kirby, or wario you japanime waifu literally who trash.
Where can I get up to date brackets?
>>342627043
Main Cloud and Diddy
>>342627241
>Kirby
>fun
Pick one and only one.
>>342627562
hey at least it's not melee kirby.
>>342627562
>Not thinking Kirby is fun
Leave and never return.
>>342627562
He's fun in Brawl-.
>suck up Marth
>unlimited recovery and combo extensions
If I played more often, he'd probably be a main. He's not half bad in Smash 4, though.
>>342619273
>muh butthurt pol obsession my life revolves around is so strong I see it everywhere
Don't shitpost.
Haven't played Smash4 in a while. How is my boy DK now adays?
Where can I see the brackets?
>>342627739
>why doesn't anyone ever do that for me ;(
>>342627562
Yes, you read it right
Random forward smash and fishing for dairs the whole game is fun
>>342627872
Pretty good.
>>342624047
He's Chilean, the land of Alexis Sanchez.
>>342611636
Didn't know there was an animated version of this pic.
>>342627872
Larry pulls him out sometime to gimmick out a win. Other than that he's very middle of the road.
>>342627356
You forgot to tell him to main Fox in melee.
>>342627872
Diddy is high tier as always. ;^)
I had the biggest boner when Palutena won.
Best girl confirmed highest tier
>>342621273
Its worse on the 3ds at least that how it feels for me.
So...how long until a left field zelda comes out of nowhere and dominates everybody?
>>342616408
How did you mistake crowd for ground?
>>342627920
>I have no idea what I'm talking about: The Post
DAir doesn't even confirm into F-Smash, you can't be seriously getting hurt by that.
>>342626337
the ending is cute as fuck
>>342625609
Learn to think smart.
>>342614440
Palucina a best.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A LINK TO UP TO DATE BRACKETS, PLEASE? I CAN'T FIND THE CHALLONGE ONE.
>>342628209
Ally just lost a Zelda. A fucking 2-0.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS TOURNAMENT
>>342616408
I daydream about having a job and buying a ps3 to play GGXrd.
>>342623554
So one would assume Raman can talk about Smash 4 meta, right?
>>342616408
>Do I just have autism?
Maybe.
>>342628335
>The Zero-killer in loser bracket because of a zelda
What? Why didn't they show that on the twitch?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS TOURNAMENT?
Did a bunch of newcomer decided to go Bidou or what?
>>342628286
>I never knew I wanted this so much
Cute!
>>342628209
Zelda has been winning tournaments for months.
>>342628335
Any vid of that?
>>342628461
>Zelda bidou
Yeah, have fun accomplishing nothing.
>>342628335
Want to see.
>>342628335
The UK leaving the eu union has broken reality apparently.
GET OFF THE WALL
EXIT THE BALLROOM
LEAVE IMMEDIATELY
Where can I get Brackets?
>>342628545
Zelda is not good for Bidou?
>>342613152
whatever do you mean, anon?
>>342628971
Her movement is pretty bad, so no. I guess you could play with perfect pivots.
Best character coming through
>>342629058
One of the advantage of Bidou is that you can do Perfect Pivot easierly.
>>342628219
I never said it did
>>342628971
PP Downwards Down Tilt into Fair sounds good on paper, don't know how practical it would be.
Where can I get Bracket?
>>342613998
>implying you didn't get spoonfed at all in your /v/ lifetime
>>342613613
she's the only whose underwear is visible.
creator bias.
>>342629498
well...sheik had a camel toe in melee.
>>342628463
The best ship.
>>342628212
Don't know. It just kind of happened and I caught it the second after I hit post.
Did vinnie get fatter?
NAIRO GETTING BTFO BY A FUCKING SHULK
A FUCKING SHULK
WILL THIS MADNESS NEVER STOP?
Where does Zero's fanbase come from?
He's seems very unlikable.
Where can I see brackets?
>>342629661
I mean in Sm4sh.
>>342629858
WHAT? WHEN? WHERE?
>>342629867
because most people hates him, there will be people who will like him to be contrarian.
Sonic might be my main and all, but holy god does Wrath play him so badly. I feel bad seeing Vinnie lose like that.
>>342629867
He just earned it by being N°1 for so long. It won't last if he keep being second, though.
>>342612268
This is what happens when you rely on tiers as oppossed to your own skill. You get exposed and people learn that you weren't so great a shooter after all, you were just bringing an AR-15 to a shooting competition where everyone else had muskets
M2K is not playing Sm4sh at CEO?
so is this going to be the best Smash 4 tourney?
>Trela drowned in Pools
>ZeRo 2-0ed by the goddess
>Larry Lurr still doing amazing
Truly, we're at the peak of Smash 4.
>>342614625
>>342619583
Not him but I love how the "LE LURK AND NO SPOONFEEDING" shit is so absolutely inconsistent. It entirely depends which group you're asking sauce from
>anime types
They'll go full angry pepe
>Furries
Never turn you down and will always give source since it gives them attention
>normie real porn
Never a problem, people like sharing
>>342627356
cloud is turbocancer and i dont like diddy
>>342627241
i main Wario in Brawl but now he just feels like trash, same with Link to a lesser degree
>>342630154
He is.
>>342612256
Source?
>>342629858
I'm sorry, WHAT?
>>342630101
Shh shh it's ok senpai. we all miss hoo hah.
>>342630223
The one with the most surprising victories already.
>>342630263
You forgot Ally lost to Zelda
>>342627043
Do you want to win more often?
Corrin
Do you want to have more fun?
Palutena
>>342614483
I have never understood the mindset of
>If someone is good at something, you cannot criticize them in any aspect!
I sure as fuck can. Just like I can recognize Muhammad Ali was one of the greats of boxing but still I'd call him a faggot for other reasons. Being good at something does not exempt you for being called out on shit
>>342630278
Smash.gg is completely retarded at being up to dat (what the fuck is up with that, btw?), but is he still scheduled to play?
Is he still in the winner, or in the loser?
>>342616408
Yes. I mean, we both probably have autism but you're not the only one
>>342629867
>He's seems very unlikable.
Doesn't seem that bad to me. Compared to other figures in the playerbase, he's alright.
>>342630268
>cloud is turbocancer
Everyone loved Cloud until people started winning with him.
>>342611636
>Like some smash characters and how they play
>hate the overall idea of smash
I despise the way stages work for the most part. I pretty much only have fun playing on stages like the boxing arena.
How am I supposed to play Corrin correctly? It feels like I'm just racking up damage via aerial tech chases until I fish for a uair, side-b, or tipped fsmash.
>>342630387
What? Source my man?
>>342629741
My heart!
Whatever. As long as Palutena doesnt win the tournament I dont care.
>>342629867
Most of the big names have huge followings because they're big names. Also, most of them stream to supplement their tournament incomes, ZeRo included, so they also generically build up a following because people spend a lot of time with them and it's not uncommon for people to get obsessed with streamers and shit. It's not uncommon for up-and-coming Smash streams to have M2K show up as a guest, and people will just fucking flock there 'cause M2K is there.
Personally, the only one I had a problem with is M2K, but for a while I've been harboring a dislike of ZeRo, 'cause he's an insufferable prick.
If you want to see some real Smash pro dick sucking, go to /r/smashbros. I stopped going there years ago because they literally do nothing all day but suck ZeRo, M2K, and Leffen's dicks all day, among others.
>>342630596
I always fucking hated Cloud. Those long lasting hitboxes are such bullshit and hits like a truck on top of having some of the best frame data in the game. He's the definition of easy mode.
Tell me about Roy.
How bad is he?
>>342630864
He's great
>>342630864
Mid tier.
Has speed, combos and power but he also has shit range and gets combed real hard because of his fall speed.
>>342630864
Roy isn't so bad. He's just so unused. I remember there was like two Roy players who beat out pre-patch Bayonetta. Felt glorious.
>>342630864
Hit hard, struggles in neutral, struggles harder off-stage.
>>342630864
probably the worst swordsman in the game
>>342631002
>mid tier
he's low tier at best
>>342630864
not Melee level trash, at least
Where can I get Brackets?
>>342630395
fuck, that's a real conundrum
>>342630596
i was playing randoms with my cousin and rolled Cloud. still needs some effort to be efficient at him but he's got damage out the ass
it's like every new character they add makes the game worse
>>342629867
Lots of unlikable people get fans, I don't get it either. I've been to twitch streams of people with 6000 viewers who treat their viewers like trash. Some people see being an asshole as a positive trait
>>342631284
He seems fun to play.
I want to play this game. The characters I find fun are Bayonetta, Ryu, and Cloud. Are any of them any good?
>>342631063
>probably the worst swordsman in the game
That's dumb and you know it.
Roy is better than Marth, Lucina, and Link.
A lot of people want to play it up like Marth is better since his buffs, but look at the kill confirms Roy has, look at Roy's superior combo game, look at Roy's superior speed and his superior killing power.
Since none of the characters are truly broken, solid fundamentals are way more important than who you play
>>342631471
Some of the best characters in the game. Gotta buy those, though.
>>342631515
>roy is better than marth, lucina
you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, stop posting
>link
just as bad as roy, only saved from "worst swordsman" because he has tools
>>342631471
all good, but they're all dlc
>>342631515
>Roy is better than Marth, Lucina, and Link.
I dont know about Lucina but Marth has Neutral game and range and Link has Range and Projectiles.
>>342631391
He doesn't treat his followers like shit, though.
the reason the hate for Zero started was because he used to be an huge camper, something rarely liked and it was showcased the most at the Nintendo special events where he won by literally avoiding the fight.
He has changed of style since then and play more aggressively, which coincidentally, alos happened as his fanbase was growing, the fat that he remained undefeated for so long also helped in his popularity.
But he has never been a jerk to his fans.
>>342631515
>kill confirms
Requires a hit, which Roy struggles to get.
>combo game
See above.
>killing power
See above. Roy is fast, though.
>>342631703
>the fat that he remained
>>342631703
No one claimed he was specifically a jerk to his fans, I simply gave an example of assholish and unlikable behavior.
He has been a retard who made stupid claims though and I have seen them.
>>342631515
>roy is better than marth
sure, if we're talking about 1.0.0 marth
1.1.4 marth is better by far
Where can I get brackets?
>>342621104
>>342625808
>>342626046
It was relevant at the time.
At any rate, forgot to mention Abadango, one of the top five best Smash 4 players in the world, most likely.
>>342631534
>Gotta buy those
it all makes sense
Wait, one of those player was a girl? I couldn't tell.
>>342632035
smash.gg
>>342631534
PAY
2
WIN
>>342631605
>you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, stop posting
YOU don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Watch what Ryo can do with Roy and see if you still want to shitpost that tired "marth/lucina is better" meme.
>>342631682
>I dont know about Lucina but Marth has Neutral game
What fucking neutral? His shit isn't safe on shield, he gets little out of his nairs, he's got no approach game.
And doesn't matter if Marth grabs you because he gets nothing out of it except a few people he can down throw to upair.
So there's little reason to be scared of shielding a lot against Marth since his grab game is trash.
All Marth has is his tipper, but his spacing tools are shit.
The dude is slow, and has piss range.
People put several times more effort into fleshing out the Marth meta and it's still shit. Roy is super undeveloped, but is certainly much much better in terms of potential.
>>342632195
No SMash.gg they are not up to date at all. It's like the people in charge of it prefer to scratch their balls. They are so behin it's not even funny.
And I can't find a challonge to the Wii U Single of CEO 2016.
Okay 67% the black player is a girl.
>>342632318
>ryo
he only gets results from ike/corrin
>marth/lucina is better meme
it's not a meme if a majority of top level tourney players agree
roy was always hyped up garbage, even zero cock rode him for a month before it was shown that he was straight up trash
WHATTHE FUCK JUST THE HELL HAPPENED?
ANYONE HAS SLOW MO?
wHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?
>>342632471
Forget pic.
Damn, she good, what the fuck did she pull off?
>>342612175
>implying the real picture will ever be fully animated
>>342632381
There's no other.
>>342632471
So, a cheater?
>>342632486
>he only gets results from ike/corrin
Since when? Last tournament I saw him at he used Roy a lot and was getting results. He tore up some Lucario player in winners and then took him out again in Grand Finals. He used Ike too, but he was getting results with Roy.
Additionally he trashed Dabuz's Rosa in friendlies the other day with Roy.
There is a lot of potential with that character. Marth has no potential.
>>342632762
There is no gender category in Smash, so, no. It doesn't matter.
>>342632784
which tournament?
>friendlies
wew
>there is a lot of potential
I disagree, Roy is not a complex character like Shulk to have potential. Most of his stuff has already been discovered. Marth is similar too, but the recent tipper buffs fuel his spacing game
>>342632694
There is no Challonge? They usually tend to do it better than smash.gg.
>>342632876
But she's beating a guy and women cannot ever beat males outside of cheating, even the Koreans get this.
>>342632954
>which tournament?
Smash Conference 63
It wasn't a major or anything, but then again... When does Ryo ever win big tournaments?never
>Marth is similar too, but the recent tipper buffs fuel his spacing game
>his spacing game
What spacing game??? Marth has no means of forcing an approach from his opponent and no means of approaching.
All I ever see are a shit ton of aerials being thrown out and Marths trying their hardest to position despite having no zoning tools.
Honestly, you might as well just play Ganon and actually get some reward out of your hits if you're going to try to play that game.
>>342614440
>Implying she wouldn't prefer either Link on a bunny suit or Capt. Falcon wearing nothing but a scarf.
>>342624717
tiers are gone, there are no rules anymore
>hbox
>>342634723
>Smash Conference 63
just a small mvg in house tourney, not much to say on this
>what spacing game
the retreating fair/nair one :^)
>>342634902
>tiers are gone
except for bottom tiers
people forget how balanced smash 4 is despite its large roster. Match ups really arn't much of a thing above low tier
>>342613373
U r noob. Tiers don't change like that.
>>342635016
>the retreating fair/nair one :^)
MarthPlayersInANutshell.exe
>>342635275
Every smash game has been like that though
>>342635596
grossly incorrect
the peach/icies match up is retarded in melee and brawl is metaknight/icies vs everyone else
Any good Pac players on here?
How do I git gud and beat Cloud?
>>342616408
>Lives in RI
Welp not goin to that place...
Is it too late to start playing this game?
>>342635275
>Match ups really arn't much of a thing above low tier
Well that's incredibly untrue.
ZSS vs Pikachu for example is bullshit. Ness vs Rosa is bullshit.
There's more bullshit matchups, but those two stick out to me off the top of my head.
>>342636429
>ness vs rosa
yeah this missed my mind, haven't seen a ness in a while
>zss vs pikachu
not too bad
Dear Smashers, please bathe and wear deodorant when attending a tournament. Also stop smoking your stinky weed by the doors.
Love, Everyone else
>>342636403
What, smash 4? Not at all
>>342611636
Just goes to show: much like History, Tiers are decided by the victors. Tiers are not a reflection of which characters are better than others. Rather, they merely show which characters are played by the most famous competitors.
This is why I play Zelda. I play her because I like how she moves.
>>342636514
>not too bad
Pikachu's small hitbox fucks up a lot of things for ZSS, that's why you'll often see Nairo pulling out someone else if he goes up against ESAM.
Kirby would also be a really good counter to ZSS, but Kirby is pretty shit.
>>342627562
>He doesn't spike tryhards with the down swing on his recovery
>He doesn't spot dodge and reverse up-smash
>He doesn't bait out counters with the charged hammer, wait for them to whiff and get a free KO
>>342636893
>I play her because I like how she moves.
You like having miniscule sweetspots and xbox huge sourspots on every move?
>>342637170
Just play Dedede if you want to shit on people.
>>342635821
Bell shenanigans
Get a hydrant down whenever they run off to charge limit like the faggots they are
You just have to gimp or stage spike clouds, they are way too dangerous at a certain percentage, with or without limit. Never approach them from above because they love to just throw out up-airs like it's a combo. Cloud's b-air is his best kill move. For the love of god, get the fuck away if they start fishing for up-tilts.
>>342637423
Not a problem. If I sweet-spot, great. If I sour-spot, fine. It just gives me more opportunities to keep the pressure on.
>>342636893
>Tiers are decided by the victors
This is actually incredibly wrong and also stupid.
For over a year we had to look at Yoshi sitting in fucking A tier without any results.
Only now people are finally starting to bump Yoshi down as they realize there's nothing there.
>>342613403
>There's no full animated version.
What monster animated a crop?
>>342637464
Nah, I reserve that for duck hunt, especially against Dedede mains that sit there and throw out gordos.
>Stage spikes with the can
>Using the can to gimp recoveries
>Beating projectile faggots at their own game with half the projectiles
>Using gunmen like a distant jab, or decoy
>Can placement to fuck with people, and to block attacks / projectiles
>Getting a can down, grabbing someone, and throwing them into it
>Using the can to launch myself towards my opponent
>All those mind games
