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MEANWHILE ON CYBERPUNK /v/
Boy I sure do hate the niggers.
android niggers are really the worst
we all agree right ?
Cyberniggers keep stealing my Cybercycle.
Cyberpunk doesn't just have to be a wet neon city at night.
>>341982192
This poster is a nigger.
MEANWHILE ON REPOST /v/
>>341982316
For the record, for all the cyberpunk books I've read, all the niggers are badasses.
>>341981242
Source on the pic? I want to use it in my reels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xb3vBSFsZM
Ayo how dis make you feel flesh boi?
PERSONAL
>>341981242
IM LOGGED IN, JACK
JACK ME OFF, LOG
I WILL DELETE THE WORLD MEME DATABASE
>>341983197
Like you.HARD
Thoughts on Mankind Divided?
Anyone else mad about daytime levels?
>>341984495
Daytime is whatever.
That sunlight and minimap however, aren't.
Ban dick augs, it's not fair.
>>341984674
Looks like someone got cucked by BCD
how are your androids doing /v/?
>me on the left
Hey there fellow hackers, feels good to fuck the system amirite?
>>341984495
Cyberpunk has nothing to do with the time of day.
>>341985575
Deus Ex does
Is it that time again?
>>341985115
>epic fail
Didn't even the mainstream stop using that ages ago?
>>341986064
I need to get that jacket.
>go to cyberspot
>ask for Atelier 2177
>holochips burst from avatar
FUCKING CYBERSPOT!
>>341986064
I hate that headline so much, as well as his metal hair and stupid cowboy boots, they don't fit the character.
>>341985115
Those stickers are meant to be taken as ironic humour. They turned your own weapons against you, you fucking neo-/v/ vedditor.
>>341986170
They're still stuck on memes from like 8 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OYIx2KHl5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8wOE7J8G1U
>>341986275
>console cowboy
>not wearing cowboy boots
why?
>>341986170
Yes
>>341986343
Epik /b/ro, simpli epik
>>341986343
Irony is fucking cancer. When will this irony meme end?
>>341982759
for example?
>>341986435
Because console cowboys aren't literal cowboys? It should be either high top sneakers or combat boots
>>341983197SCREWED
>>341986519
When you travel back in time and curb the first signs of ironic shitposting on the internet before it manages to take root.
>>341986553
>Quadrilateral Cowboy
Yeah, it'll be out with Half Life 3
>>341986579
>combat boots
Bobby Newark detected
We'll never get a game like this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkHZfjK5z4
>>341986553
>check out HK project
>you play as a cat
heh
>>341985905
Schway
>>341986553
>watchdogs
>cyberpunk
Hahaha, no.
>>341987750
that's cool and cute as fuck
>>341988964
Why is there a yuri painting of Dominica in the background?
>Tfw my wetware is starting to fail
flash cloning is safe, r-right bros?
>>341986538
neuromancer
Would the "Human Bean" song fit a cyberpunk setting?
Guys, it's been night and raining for 10 years now. When will it stop?
>>341989314
probably as some psuedo-retro throwback song to illustrate how the future is habbened
>you will likely be past your 60s when cyberpunk becomes reality
>you will never get augs other than a more advanced pacemaker
>you will be an old and useless supporting character while the snot nosed brats are turning themselves into cyborgs and battling oppressive megacorporations
>Not using Linux for your augs
fucking normies
>>341989301
>tfw you will never smoke ganja in space with your follow space rasta
>implying nigger won't be extinct in the future
>>341989301
you should be naming characters,
in plural
>>341989478
you act like we won't have biological immortality by then
>>341987750
UE4 is looking great, too bad it's been out for years and no real games have come out using it yet.
>>341989532
>he thinks it's finally the year of linux augs
>>341984495
>mad about daytime levels?
Oh please.
TriggeredAutism.jpg
>>341989403
The governments across the world prohibited sacrifices of humans.
>>341989615
Is that even possible
I mean I know some organisms have traits that give them a VERY long life but applying it to humans?
>>341989767
Constant nighttime is one of Deus Ex signatures as a series. Was
>TFW still no crack
>>341986553
One leg in sci-fi territory, but still.
>>341988665
>cyberpunk
what about it?
>>341989853
First biological immortality test on a human was done in 2015 on Elizabeth Parrish, CEO of BioViva.
>>341989659
At least he's not one of those fucking iAugers
How they live with a fucking apple logo on their foreheads I'll never know
>>341984831
at that point just replace your head too. It looks fucking retarded.
>>341989904
HOW DARE THEY TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT
I hope the final boss battle takes place n broad daylight, just to be different from so many other games.
>>341990021
>coming to kickstarter
>>341981242
Can't wait for Nintendrone to release Legend of CyberZelda
>>341990169
Gonna back and shill it for free, I'm so desperate it's almost pathetic
>>341990315
>thinks they're going to make a modern era zelda
they're totally doing Zelda: Legend of the USSR next
LOL
Guys, my fucking neural implants got fried during my raid against those fascists at Köhl Corp. Know anybody somewhere that could patch me up? Maybe get some servo upgrades for my fingers.
>>341990139
>It looks fucking retarded.
not as retarded as suggesting to replace head
>>341990914
What is this. I like it. A lot.
>>341989478
Maybe you can run the bar/arcade where they all meet as a quest hub. And get a bionic eye.
>>341991157
>back in my day we were posting dank maymays on a malaysian socketpuppet kniting forum and now everyone's hooked up in the holo-net with their anime avatars pretending to suck dick
>>341991042
>>341990914
http://www.drugsandwires.fail/
>>341988665
It is, so was the first. Sorry.
>>341991746
what exactly was cyberpunk about it, retard? muh hacking?
people thinking cyberpunk is anything where technology plays an important role nowadays
>>341989478
>implying it won't be electronic old men running the world
>>341991598
Holy fuck this is amazing, thanks Anon.
>>341990061
If she's not bullshitting. I can't imagine all the implications of biological immortality
>>341990021
why does nobody fucking care about this or ss3
i keep forgetting they exist because no one ever mentions them
>>341991983
>nowadays
You're not me, old man.
>>341989601
Maelcum.
>>341986553
Watch dogs isn't cyberpunk
There's a lot more to cyberpunk than just hacking
>>341991983
>hacker trying to avenge the death of his loved ones, caused by a mega corporation controlled by a mob of hackers who also control a literal city operating system
>DedSec, Defalt, Jordi, T Bone...
>surveillance, vigilantism, information abuse
some of you are alright don't come to the brain juicer at 1500
>>341992318
>>341991983
I don't think any of you have played Watch Dogs.
Give me your definiton of cyberpunk and what makes something cyberpunk. I know what cyberpunk is, but I wanna know yours and see if it qualifies.
>>341992112
>about this
we discussed alpha trailer to death, it's gonna get some more attention on 29th when kikestarter launches
>ss3
only got a title, nothing yet to discuss
>>341992541
And by "it" I mean Watch Dogs, sorry.
Can someone repost the E.Y.E. guide picture from the previous thread? Didn't manage to save it in time since it got pruned.
>>341991983
Before anything else, Cyberpunk existed as a fictional representation of a "high tech low life" society. Meaning the technology has to act or appear more sophisticated than where it's being used. Sorry to spoil whatever fake idea you had of it, but it's incredibly easy to label shit as Cyberpunk nowadays. It doesn't need be always night, and the characters don't need to be half android with bright green hair.
>>341990006
>current year
>not jacking vims straight from their server farm to see if it's worth 4900c
>>341992709
>what is archive
>>341992541
I have played it, and it's not really cyberpunk
Cyberpunk is usually defined as
>massive, densely-packed, neon-lit skyscrapers that fill the skyline
>flying cars
>some sort of body augmentation aspect or cyborgs
>militarized police force
>hacking
Even though WD has hacking it's missing all the other aspects, it's set in modern day chicago
If I had to read one cyberpunk book, which one should it be?
>>341992769
It's nice to see that people still understand this point. I'm writing a short novel that starts out cyberpunk and transitions into sci-fi and if anyone ever reads it, they'd probably just label it as cyberpunk which isn't what I'm going for, cause the core theme is change and the progression between stages of life and how it can affect someone in an impersonal society.
>>341991598
>cyberpunk future where brain augmentations are possible, common, and in our main character
>sleeping in is still a thing
>>341981991
this
>>341982084
this
>>341982316
this!!!
>>341992352
and? if it has a couple of things that belong to the cyberpunk genre, that doesnt make it cyberpunk
thats the same thing as saying if someone dies in a movie that movie can be instantly classified as a slasher/horror
>>341993021
Blade Runner
>>341981242
While I'm not sure I like the "punk" part, I do like cyber. By the way, is this "cyber" ?
>>341992942
>all those aspects
Those are the results, not the symptoms. As this Anon >>341992769 has said, Cyberpunk has always been high tech low life, and the aesthetic choices you've listed are a result of it.
Don't treat cyberpunk like steampunk, unlike steampunk, cyberpunk not only has a common aesthetic but common themes that come with it.
Games like Cybermancy and MGS4 can easily be classified as cyberpunk despite not having the aesthetic, but because it has themes of cyberpunk
>>341981242
dudes some bot chic totes gave me a electro job earlier.
>>341992541
The most accurate definition is "sci-fi noir" with its pessimism, ambiguity, depression, cynism, "high tech, low life"
"Classic cyberpunk characters were marginalized, alienated loners who lived on the edge of society in generally dystopic futures where daily life was impacted by rapid technological change, an ubiquitous datasphere of computerized information, and invasive modification of the human body."
Thus said, Crime and punishment is cyberpunk, in terms of its characters, atmosphere and philosophy, and Watch Dogs is yet another downgraded ubisoft cash grab with edgy hacking for 12year-olds.
>>341992942
Nope. That's not what defines it at all. General science fiction, maybe.
Sophisticated tech in a meager environment, with a powerful corporate presence is what defines it and should be the foundation for all cyberpunk, not purely aesthetics.
>>341993186
you will never sit atop of a hill with your cyberpunk-gf holding hands, breathing the fresh night-air watching the skyline of a vast cyberpunk city
>>341983197
BEEPED
>>341990664
Go to /g/
V only does shitty raids to pirate vidya
>>341993341
>gf
thank god. I don't want to go on cyber dates or spend cyber cash.
>>341993197
>it has themes of cyberpunk
thats exacly what those games you've listed have and what watch dogs has
they're not cyberpunk, sorry to burst your bubble
cyberpunk does indeed have the aesthetic choices and the setting wired to it, which can be seen in the novels/movies which coined the genre itself
sorry but a guy hacking signposts with his cellphone in 2014 chicago isnt cyberpunk
>>341993175
I'm sure you're just foolin' around, but
sigh
You're not wrong though, that's a good place to start.
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>>341981242
UNGA BUNGA ROCKSTOP
What music do people listen to?
>>341993341
>cyberpunk
>fresh night-air
You mean recirculated A2 (Artificial Air) as long as the nano-filters are functioning correctly, though knowing how the mayor doesn't pay the air bill often enough we'll likely be breathing last month's A2 till winter.
>>341992942
>flying cars
check out this muggle, he thinks the Jetsons is cyberpunk
BEEP BOOP SPACESTOP
Is E.Y.E. the deepest cyberpunk video game of all time?
>>341993695
BZZZTTCCCHHH KRRRRRKZZZZ CYBERSTOP
>>341993649
SHUT UP MY GF WAS READING THIS AND NOW SHE'S CRYING.
WANT ME TO COME OVER AND BEAT YOU UP YOU FUCKING CYBERFAGGOT?
>>341993367
>She's only 18
Huh? Isn't the character Mika talking about 14-16?
>>341993636
The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation, is often regarded as one of the ultimate cyberpunk albums. And not just for Voodoo People, the entire album nails it.
"...I'm taking my work back underground..."
>>341993197
>Cybermancy not having an aesthetic
You fucking kidding me
Butts set ablaze every time people discuss genres and whether or not something falls into them.
Cyberpunk as any other genre is a collection of tropes, the more of these tropes particular movie,game or book taps, the more cyberpunk it is.
Something can be very cyberpunk as Neuromancer, or barely cyberpunk as Mirrors Edge. Shadowrun has fucking orcs and elves off all things, but people still call it cyberpunk because it has many cyberpunk tropes (more than fantasy ones). So just chill and don't start holy wars over this. I hope i was of help
>having noodles at a kiosk near my dwelling
>minding my own business when some fucking gargoyle is just standing there phishing everyone
>he comes right up by me, his gear is in my face, he's not even paying attention
>fucker is clearly jacked into the metaverse
>can't do a goddamn thing to him because I've gotta go to a USA protected burbclave this week and he's sending everything he caps to the fucking divided states
>he comes right up to me, face to face, but he's still goggled in
>his goggles pop off, he's finally looking at me
>"Citizen Anon, designation #1145320779, I have been reviewing the publicly available information about you and cross referencing it with various online communities,"
>I'm trying not to show just how badly I want to cut this guy's face off with my katana
>"You like Castlevania, don'y you?"
And that's how I landed myself in the Clink
>>341993780
Yes. And probably the last.
We're already on cyberpunk /v/
Cyberpunk is dead because cyberpunk is now
>>341993636
FOR YEEEARS I HEARD NOTHING BUT THE STATICS ON THE RADIOOOOOO
>>341993832
Wow, look at this richboi with his VIOlicense, how much dick did your mom have to suck to buy that for you, big man?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw
>These are the people who will be the dystopian leaders in the cyberpunk future
>>341993636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQLPFO3u10U
>>341981242
Once this comes out this gen will finally be worth it... so 2 more years?
>>341994020
And like everything in this life it turned to be shittier than you have expected.
>>341993636
Is this actually cyber punk? I can't put this into words butlooking at it makes me want to live.
I need this in a game
>>341992769
>It doesn't need be always night, and the characters don't need to be half android with bright green hair.
true, those are only the hallmarks of the genre and of course the writer can play with them as he likes. its always night and raining in most cyberpunk settings because the genre has strong ties to noir, and because the genre defining novels/movies had that setting
the only thing that separates watch dogs from being a regular shooter set in 2014 is that MC has a phone in his pocket that he can magically change billboards and traffic lights. otherwise he's literally a guy with a gun in 2014
if you think that instantly makes it cyberpunk i'm concerned that you might have legit retardation
>>341993909
I have struggled in the past to get the message across that Mirror's Edge does in fact fall into this category, despite it being so obvious. Thanks for acknowledging it, even if it was only a little.
Anyone else miss weather that isn't raining at night?
Official thread video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs
>>341993851
Most likely 16, since that's the age of consent over in Japan and teenagers can also have adult jobs.
>>341993982
Trevor go write some more episodes
While everyone is talking about EYE..
I just finished the game and.. What the fuck? I'm back at the /v/?
What happened to all the other NPCs? Orionoros? Huan Lo? I understand it but I can't see the whole picture.
What makes this game even harder to decipher is that the wiki page is not worth a damn and there are barely any good discussion out there.
>>341994020
This.
I used this as the thesis for an essay back in high school, comparing cyberpunk works at the time (this was around 2009 iirc) with stuff from the 80s, showing how the contemporary stuff took place in fairly realistic, very near future settings, whereas the classics often took place several decades (or even centuries) into the future. I used this to try and demonstrate just how closely the current day resembles a cyberpunk setting in every meaningful way, really only missing the stylistic stuff like katanas and goggles.
>>341994183
People who play AAA games nowadays have legit retardation.
>>341994176
We got all the shitty parts and none of the cool stuff.
>>341994183
>a kid defending an AAA title is retarded
why yes.
Oh hey I just saw Blade Runner yesterday. It was good. I liked when he raped Rachael.
>>341994327
It requires several playthroughs.
Also, if you really don't understand anything, than you are just not ready for the Enlightenment
>>341994550
Did you watch the directors cut?
>>341994648
the "Final Cut" which is apparently the directors cut with minor changes. It didn't have the narration
>>341994460
I got a chinese watch that makes me message people and having phonecalls, a tablet to read news on how fucked up the world is and I bring a brick with a cable that can recharge all the electronic stuff I have.
It's watered down, but with those guys at Deus Ex actually making the implants for people I can see an improvment in a few years.
>>341994160
Good shit.
>>341994183
>true, those are only the hallmarks of the genre
Cyberpunk is about its themes. A world where computers have broken down personal privacy, where corporations have too much power and world governments are losing power to them. It's about a counter-culture within these settings that acts as a subversive element.
That's why cyberpunk is so terrifying these days: You can write a story that takes place in this year, invoking nothing but existing trends and technologies, and it can still be totally cyberpunk.
You need to stop defining the genre by superficial visuals you see in artwork and actually read some of the literature that comprise the genre. You'll notice that there's a lot more to Cyberpunk than just neon signs, trenchcoats and goggles.
Does this count? If so did anyone else like it? I thought the story wasn't that great either.
>>341994782
What zone is that?
>>341993832
Did I miss the joke?
>>341994782
Now I have a boner
>>341992541
A nigger hacking traffic lights with his phone in a modern day chicago isn't very cyberpunk.
How about cyberpunk and vampires?
>>341994845
Was disappointing compared to Bastion.
Felt really short.
>>341994845
I thought it was heavily overrated, the story was pretty tryhard and the music was mediocre. The gameplay was fun, it's not a bad game, but it's not a great game either.
I have no idea why people say the music or story are great, they're average.
Any of you cyberniggers played this obscure gem or it's sequel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF9kyMVz1S4
>>341994183
Outside of those aesthetic hallmarks, Watch Dogs uses the fundamental elements of Cyberpunk to establish a world and tell a story. It fits into the genre, but only by a technicality, which is the case for many things now. Watch Dogs sucks.
>>341995001
Wanted to get it, but reviews aren't very good
>>341981242
Help /v/, i went to /pol/ and now i'v been infected by a forced meme! I can't stop calling androids robo-niggers!
>tfw you run into a cyber fury
dude just straight up put his body inside a giant cyborg wolf
>>341994826
my bro
>>341986553
Watch dogs is part of a new subgenre called digipunk, that is, a future where technology is dominated by connectivity and social network in daily life, digipunk is more a reimagining of cyberpunk in the modern age, less pessimistic yet more submissive, communication bringing us closer together yet driving us apart at the same time.
>>341995001
Sure!
>>341995087
Devs recently released both games for free for modern systems, and there is a new game in Early Access. Also cyber-rats
>>341995087
I am downloading a copy of that right now actually, that and Cops 2170 are literally impossible to find.
>>341981242
Final Fantasy XXX VR Fleshlight Edition
>>341995228
Robots do what they told and can work until failure (kinda like niggers were before the freedom thing) You can't really compare current nigs with robots
>tfw computer engineer
Soon
>>341993909
the point wasnt in starting holy wars
the point is that some kids genuinely think if something has like 3-4 tropes which appear in the cyberpunk genre it's instantly cyberpunk
its because you have delusional people like >>341992541 and >>341994197 believing that if a genre has a trope shared with cyberpunk (watch dogs had hacking and mirror's edge had oppressive megacorps) ITS CYBERPUNK GUYS LOL LOOK. thing is, i can bet they never really read or watched works of art which coined the genre and set the example because otherwise they wouldn't talk nonsense
shadowrun? yes, it's cyberpunk. classic cyberpunk setting + fantasy races.
mirror's edge and watch dogs? no. only has a couple tropes that happen to appear in cyberpunk
>>341995265
>Millenial punk
Now you've made even more disgusting. Also too fat.
>when you're cyberpunk but you're gf vaporwave and you can't see eye to eye
>>341995361
LINK
LEEENK
>>341986553
Deus Ex and Watchdogs 2 are the only games that are actually coming out.
All the others, save for maybe va11, are either vaporware, or will be stuck in development hell for the next 5 years.
>>341995176
It's okay if going in it open-minded, but it's a clunky mix of a classic quest and an rpg with an impossible combat.
>>341992769
>>341994183
>>341994826
The problem is that a lot of people reject the politics inherent to cyberpunk. cyberPUNK is inherently about what PUNK is about, which is class struggle. I think engaging that makes a lot of conservatives uncomfortable so cyberpunk's reduced to the superficial elements: futuristic neon noir.
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>>341995265
Let's not become /mu/ and start inventing increasingly specific subgenres just so we can masterbate how good we are at describing stories.
Cyberpunk is a perfectly accurate term to describe Watch Dogs.
>technology is dominated by connectivity and social network in daily life
This is literally the biggest most important piece of almost every major work of cyberpunk literature from when the genre started. Snow Crash has the Metaverse. Neuromancer has the Matrix. Hell, even fucking Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep has Mercerism which kinda does that.
So the defining aspect of "digipunk" is something that has already been at the core of Cyberpunk forever, which means that it's just cyberpunk with a meaningless distinction because the works aren't old enough or something.
What are some current modern cities that look Cyberpunk?
>>341984495
>Daytime Deus Ex
Fuck that. Fuck everything about that.
>>341995928
Tokyo probably.
>>341994826
sorry but once again the oppressive corps, info leaks and counter-culture are the tropes that appear in cyberpunk.
if *you'd* actually read the lit you're talking about, you'd realise that the setting makes the difference. you can write a story about all that you mentioned, and it would have the same underlying themes as cyberpunk, but it won't be cyberpunk.
nice try tho
>>341995964
This, to be honest, familiar.
>>341996016
Tokyo is stuck in the 80s, just like the rest of Japan.
>>341995928
Shanghai
>>341995840
Like, you have a world where corporations have largely replaced the government, oversight does not exist, the law is on the side of whoever has the most money, poverty is rampant, people by and large are born to be wage slaves and the only way up the class ladder is crime. What about this doesn't scream "oldschool liberal uncle rants about the dangers of conservatism"? No one is going to make a proper cyberpunk game because you don't want to alienate half of your audience.
>>341994826
Any list of recommended readings?
>>341996042
>you can write a story about all that you mentioned, and it would have the same underlying themes as cyberpunk, but it won't be cyberpunk.
Saying it doesn't make it true anon.
You can insist that the aesthetic is the defining characteristic of the genre all you want, but there are plenty of stories which lack that aesthetic that are widely considered to be Cyberpunk.
Little Brother by Cory Doctorow, Ready Player One by some guy, The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson. These are Cyberpunk works and their settings don't resemble your neon-noire description at all.Now as much as I love us flinging shit at each other, and it really is quite a special thing we're sharing here, ultimately we're going to weasel ourselves into he said / she said territory.
>>341995672
It usually reside at http://www.reality413.com/ but it's currently down
luckily download links still work
first game
http://reality413.com/files/ParadiseCrackedSetup_rus_1.8.0.exe
second game
ftp://37.203.243.14/PowerOfLawMissionsSetup_rus_1.64.0.exe
they are obviously russian, so you have to find English patch elsewhere
>tfw your waifu is so obscure you have her all for yourself
>>341996220
Slap some people with cyborg implants in this pic and you've got your Cyberpunk setting.
>>341995840
except there's a shitload of PUNK genres, but you missed the important part here: cyber. the politics which are related to cyberpunk can be encountered in various other works of art which arent cyberpunk. cyberpunk doesn't hold a fucking trademark on oppressive megacorps or advanced technology and the problems that come with it.
>>341994721
harrison ford is such a shitty narator for a neo noir/cyberpunk movie
>>341996571
>Ready Player One
the summary always sounds like those anime "oh no, this mmo is super important the players are trapped in it and must use their leet gaming skills to win!!"
>>341995361
>Freud was right
What did he mean by this?
>>341995840
It's not about struggle, its about outsiders, those who were thrown out of the society and now they have to survive on their own, but they do not fight the system, they are outside of it and don't give a fuck. Classic cyberpunk is basically about bums with augs. All that actiona and struggle shit is for tennagers postcyberpunk.
>>341996515
Neal Stephenson wrote Snow Crash as well as The Diamond Age, which kinda sorta take place in the same continuity but are totally unrelated and the shared setting is never confirmed. Regardless, they're both outrageously entertaining novels that deal with a lot of the themes that make Cyberpunk cool. The Diamond Age is especially cool for how it deals with class division. Snow Crash just has prose so fucking cool it will melt your face off.
Cyberpunk is enough of a niche that most lists you'll find of quality works will be pretty reliably good. Neal Stephenson is the one author I'll go out of my way to recommend though, but that's probably because I'm currently balls deep in a pretty long Stephenson kick. Just finished Cryptonomicon and am reading The Baroque Cycle Volume 1, neither of which are Cyberpunk but are fucking swell.
>>341996823
>Cyber helmets, cyber arms and capes
THIS IS ALL I WANT FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK
>>341996817
means that his gun is bigger than yours
>>341995265
/tg/ here, digipunk is just grimbright cyberpunk. They're the same thing.
>>341996773
It's fucking terrible. There's a good story in there somewhere, but it is absolutely BURIED in masterbatory 80s pop culture faffing. I wouldn't say I regret reading it, but he needed an editor to slap him with his manuscript and say "NO FUCKER YOU DON'T NEED AN ENTIRE CHAPTER THAT'S JUST THE MOVIE WAR GAMES IN FIRST PERSON."
Ironically the most creative and interesting part of the book was when the main character was totally detached from the Oasis and sold himself into slavery to get close to the villains.
You can skip it unless you can stomach "OMG THE 80S WAS SO EPIC LOL!"
>>341996650
I am supposedly downloading English files right now, are you Russian and that's why you aren't sharing them?
>>341994434
What's this, mulatto?
>>341996817
it means the ratboy really does want to fuck his mom
>>341997101
Good to know I wasn't the only one who thought the epin 80's references were pretentious.
>>341996721
Sure, cyberpunk's also about the oppressive effect of technology, but you can't divorce the two parts.
>>341996823
On the contrary, they are PART of the system. Case and Molly and all of the OG characters ended up working for the corps and playing their game just like everyone else. That no one is actually fighting the system does not mean the theme is not class struggle.
It is really hard to say the bums were "thrown out" of society when they make the majority of it and the system is based on them being as they are. A cruel dichotomy between the corp-employed haves and the guttersnipe have-nots. Tech, entertainment, media keep the masses occupied and relatively docile so the system can keep running.
>>341996515
Everything from the 80s. Gibsons «Neuromancer», «Count Zero» и «Mona Lisa Overdrive», «Burning Chrome», «The Winter Market», «New Rose Hotel». Schismatrix, Hardwired by Williams, Vacuum Flowers by Suenvic. And thats basically all. Everything of what was after is cheap mimics, and Ready Player One is Sword Art Online level shit.
>>341996876
Gibson was and still is the best.
>>341995506
>shadowrun? yes, it's cyberpunk. classic cyberpunk setting + fantasy races.
Classic Cyberpunk Setting? Fuck me, again with aesthetic. That isn't what defines Cyberpunk nor was it what laid the groundwork for it. It's interesting that you accuse us of talking nonsense when you're associating Cyberpunk with something that doesn't define the genre.
By your logic, Watch Dogs is more Cyberpunk than Shadowrun. Oh dear, maybe you should think about what you're typing before posting.
Marc Laidlaw's 400 Boys is considered Cyberpunk. It is a very loose genre.
>>341997153
sounds like a genius
>>341996876
Seconding Snow Crash, it's an oddjob as far as cyberpunk goes but there's real cool stuff in there as long as /v/ hasn't shriveled what capacity to enjoy things you had.
And of course start by Neuromancer. You don't have to read the followups, but Neuromancer is basically the beginning of cyberpunk as is.
>>341997429
After sprawl he writes pretentious unreadable postmodernist shit
>>341997126
I'm Russian and i don't have em, otherwise I'd share. I went to fucking web archive to get links for you ungrateful fucker
It's just Dev didn't bother with English version for remaster, since they distributing it for free, so hey get what's given.
>>341995928
Hong fucking Kong
>>341996571
>Little Brother by Cory Doctorow
Genre: Young Adult/Science Fiction
>Ready Player One
Hard science fiction and dystopian
>The Diamond Age
Science fiction novel
postcyberpunk
Sources: goodreads/wiki
once again, these are just novels that happen to share the same dystopian + technology tropes as cyberpunk. the very few people who actually did tag some as cyberpunk on goodreads were most probably as confused as you about what is cyberpunk.
now hey, let's take some actual neon-noire trenchgoggle aug cyberspace stuff you seem to bash so hard and see if it's any different
>Johnny Mnemonic is a 1995 Canadian-American cyberpunk action thriller film
>Neuromancer is a 1984 novel by William Gibson, a seminal work in the cyberpunk genre
>AKIRA Genre Cyberpunk
i can really paste a fuckload more of these staple cyberpunk movies/novels/games with the neon noir futuristic setting andyou know they will actually be classified as cyberpunk
once again you seem to confuse this with sci-fi, which shares some tropes with cyberpunk. cyberpunk is technically science fiction, but a certain setting and aesthetic sets it apart, which was the whole point of distinguishing that genre in the first place.
or you think that if something has the same central underlying theme as cyb (hackers/privacy/police state or megacorps/dystopia) its instantly classified as cyberpunk
sorry, its not
>>341997664
I think his work changed in tone but is still excellent. Less guns, noir and macho bullshit. More thought.
>>341997341
You know I talked to a friend of mine who loved the book, and when I told him that the 80s shit was too much he just told me "well you have to be into that stuff."
That pissed me off. I like almost everything that the book referenced. War Games is a fantastic film. It wasn't the subject matter it was referencing, it was just how over the top and masterbatory the references were. It was substituting its own identity and original setting for a pastiche of every other setting that existed, and its pace broke down because it had to keep explaining its references way too much.
It was also really inconsistent. If you're going to use that much pop-culture in your novel, you either have to assume that your read already gets it, or that they don't and then you explain things. This book went into ridiculous detail about some stuff and then didn't even bother explaining other stuff, which was a huge pacing problem unto itself. What happens when you're not familiar with D&D mechanics during the D&D scene and the author didn't bother explaining? I guess you're just not going to be able to follow the next scene. Don't get 80s sitcoms? I sure hope you don't mind a few pages of that.
Like I said, there's a good story in there somewhere, he just needed a way better editor to reign him in.
Also the "nice guy" stuff at the end was adorable. "Omg the love interest has scars on her face IRL but I don't care because I'm the nice guy and I think she's the most beautiful person in the world anyways!" Those passages almost felt like a beta-male author was trying to prove to women reading the book that he was worthy of their loins.
>>341997429
Stephenson's Snow Crash is better than anything Gibson wrote in my opinion.
>>341993021
Neuromancer by William Gibson
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick
>>341997683
>stock
have some non-stock
https://twitter.com/liamwong
>>341997783
More mental masturbation
>>341997930
I suppose it depends on how much you like Gibson's disjointed rapid fire prose. Snow Crash is more coherent.
>>341997470
>By your logic, Watch Dogs is more Cyberpunk than Shadowrun
>you're associating Cyberpunk with something that doesn't define the genre
seems like you didnt read my posts at all where i clearly state that watch dogs isn't cyberpunk
or where i said that the aesthetic and setting for the genre was actually defined in the works of art that started the genre
not replying to you anymore lmao, you might be special in a way
>>341997774
>cites goodreads as a source
>THE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DID TAG SOME AS CYBERPUNK ON GOODREADS WERE PROBABLY AS CONFUSED AS YOU ABOUT WHAT IS CYBERPUNK
Okay, I get it. You're more concerned with winning an online argument than being correct.
This is 4chan after all.
>>341993636
Flower Shoppe - It's All in Your Head (2077 Digital Remaster)
>>341997470
>a setting is just the aesthetics
You might be genuinely retarded.
>>341984831
>no augmented cock and balls
what a broke back bitch
>cyberpunk thread
>it's genrejerking
wewew
>>341981242
If they make it as detailed as in W3 I'll be lost in the world read every little poster or detail and shit.
>>341997929
It pissed you off that you have to be "into a thing" to enjoy "the thing" ?
He was right, you are wrong. Your dislike for the thing is perfectly fine, you are wrong for thinking it was written for you and you like the thing.
>>341993021
Snow Crash or Neuromancer. Hell, they're relatively quick reads, why not both.
>>341993175
Anon here is having a giggle, Blade Runner is a movie based on Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. Also a good book, also a very quick read, also worth it.
>>341998265
>provided sources which state that its not cyberpunk, but on a website where users themselves can put genre tags a few did because there are some shared themes with cyb
>started backpedalling
nice argument bro
seems like you dont have anything to say so might as well start projecting and calling names
this is 4chan after all
>>341997978
>image blogs on twitter
It hurts to live
http://rekall.tumblr.com/
best cyberpunk stuff on tumblr
(don't look up who's blog is this, just enjoy the images)
>>341998437
>tfw eye will not get the appreciation it deserves
http://steamcharts.com/app/91700
honestly, in the sequel it just needs more polish and more balance and it'll be a GOAT game.
I think my android gf went rogue.
>>341984495
yes, very mad
>>341998590
Oh boy it'sthe Gone Homo faggot
>>341998141
What started the genre? What inspired it?
>>341998435
Have you missed the socket? Do you see women on the image? No? You unplug your cybercock when you don't need it kids so it doesn't eat your batteries.
>>341998650
They are making Space Hulk shooter right now, maybe after that.
>>341998745
He'sBioshock2 faggotin my book first. He also has good taste in vidya and movies (links on top of the page)
>>341998852
>unplug
>not just deactivating it on software level
I'd rather not risk missing my dick when I need it
>>341998896
>>341998650
I remember reading an interview in which they said that they'll do EYE2 100% as long as they have money and it will be a sort of SWAT 4 style game where you play as cops.
>>341998497
No Anon, you misunderstand me.
I AM into those things. I was into all of those things. Almost every movie, television show, video game and other thing referenced in Ready Player One was a thing that I liked.
But you can't just reference a bunch of things I like to make a good story. When you're totally inconsistent with your prose and make huge sacrifices in storytelling just to cram in as many references as possible, the resulting novel is an incoherent mess.
It's like one of those "epic meme" indie games that is just a broken-ass runner game, but every tile is some stupid reddit meme. It is devoid of merit and constructed entirely of disparate bricks referencing other stuff.
Where the fuck is the gameplay. I just know this game is gonna be shit or The Witcher: Cyber Edition aka Swap and Re-use!
>>341998992
Have fun damaging it in combat and not getting RMA because it voids the warranty
>>341984495
The only thing Square's Deus Ex has to do with originals is pandering in the notes and the title.
It's basically a modern YOBA shooter with retarted stelth and mass effect dialogs, that are actually better than in mass effect.
And still it's an entirely different game with a stupid idea of augmented people opression.
Never asked for this.
>>341998775
if you're asking me that question i'm not sure we should be having an argument at all
look it up and do some research, it's all available on google
i'll ease you the task by saying that william gibson is widely credited as the pioneer of cyberpunk genre, and his works do indeed have the neon noir trenchcoat aug and so on setting that you seem to forget about
it's the underlying themes of dystopia, information networks, oppresive megacorps and high tech with low life, hacking WITH the aesthetics and setting i mentioned. if you separate them, it's not cyberpunk, but rather something that shares common themes with it and therefore could possibly be described as "cyberpunk-ish" or having cyberpunk influence
>>341999130
>can't even protect his own dick
git
gud
>>341998590
honestly, I find it really boring when people heavily tie 80s anime shit / 80s film CGI with cyberpunk, it's the same as people who want Link to have pink hair because the SNES couldn't do better.
Yes, there's some bleed-through on the aesthetic, but it doesn't separate the "medium" from the "subject", especially if it ignore newer/more interesting artistic visions.
>>341999231
>YOBA
Careful, they could arrest you for illegal meme smuggling. Also no one will get the meaning, he's just Comfy Guy here.
>>341999002
if it will be a federal cop simulator, with lower-level of Hive-Planet slums patrol, taking bribes from whores and small businesses, brutal fights with local gangs and then you got rekt by Secreta agent, it will be a 10/10 most cyberpunk shit in history
>>341999002
That sounds terrible but I trust them
>>341986582
Underrated post.
>>341998559
>public sites that can be edited by any monkey with a keyboard
>reputable source
>>341998852
>he's still using non efficient self recharging, high energy output power cells
>he "augmented" his dick buying one of those shitty chinese-made plastic toys
LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH
>>341999260
first mention of the word "cyberpunk" is title of a story called cyberpunk from 1983, so about a year before neuromancer. but there are works that go back a couple years before that and are still counted.
hate to weigh on internet shit flinging but he's right, you can have cyberpunk without the aesthetics. don't agree with every work he mentions but having such superficial crap being your litmus test is dumb.
but this is why these discussions are retarded. you two aren't actually discussing the genre at all, just playing word games. its mental masterbation.
>>341999578
Your post is boring and really pretentious.
>>341999579
That's another yoba. Youth Oriented and Bydło Approved
>>341995928
Tokyo and Hong Hong
>>341996661
desu senpai the majority of places in tokyo don't look like that. There are probably places that do look like that but it doesn't change the fact that HK, Shanghai, and probs Seoul are more cyberpuky
>>341999579
>>341999776
I like it. We should import it. If they don't know who smuggled it it will be too late when it spreads.
>>341999804
>word games
This this this. Most arguments in /v/ are barely logical and are a bunch of weenies misunderstanding each other.
>>341999804
Oh fuck.
Oh my fuck.
This exact post, this exact fucking post.
This whole thread.
I'm having the most intense deja vu of my life.
Oh fuck shit.
>>342000150
You're feeling watched.
>>342000150
Drink more water and sleep less.
>>341999937
How 'bout this?
>>342000270
After playing Eye I genuinely believe the world is a cycle
Ive been having so many Deja Vus, like once or twice per month. I hate it so much. Im so scared.
I don't think I'm strong enough to break it
>>342000473
Have you gained brouzouf?
>>341999260
I'll stop speaking for Watch Dogs because that is a bad game regardless of whether it fits or not.
But do you really not think Mirror's Edge falls into the genre? It's setting is dystopian, which is expressed by the stark white city, and the goal by the end of the game is to disrupt a city wide surveillance system that is managed by a corporation. That seems like enough to get a pass.
Also I don't know what good it will do me, but for the record I have read quite a few Cyberpunk novels.
Anyone up for a quick job in Hong Kong? I need to make some Nuyen to move out of this shithole
>>341999776
I like how they decided to make it abbreviation during meme adaptation process
>>342000437
/v/ have similar way of calling the game "dude sex"
>>342000473
are your legs ok?
>>341992769
so, uh, is RL cyberpunk?
>>342000612
no anon stahp, it doesnt take place at night and people aren't wearing goggles and fighting with katanas
you can't have cyberpunk without goggles and katanas at night.
>>342000437
>Jensen was smoking in this early HR concept art
>he wasn't smoking in the game
>he's smoking in MD
just an observation
>>342000687
Well, basically dude sex is pretty accurate of what its fans do when they get together.
>>342000879
Almost, Anon.
Almost.
Chummers, I need a place to lay low.
>>342000879
it has it's worst components
>>342000473
As long as you don't start getting deep into occult stuff and kill your wife, you should be fine.
You haven't killed your wife, have you?
>>342001018
We don't deal with metahuman scum here.
>>342000879
it has been for a while now
>>342000687
it was an abbreviation in english originally
>>342000897
Yeah, you're right.
>>342001018
No problem meat bag, how low are we're talking?
>>342000938
There were cigarette butts in his apartment and smoked in the videos... the one not made by a chinese that were in game, that is. I mean the cool ones of the trailers.
>>342000897
And without mohawks
>>341986343
>implying Ubishit is smart enough to make ironic jokes
>>341984495
I'm pretty sure that's Dishonered but with MD HUD shopped in.
>>342001018
Here's the holokey for small office I rented downtown. I send the route to you. Just don't look at anyone funny and don't talk to anybody on your way in. Shut the windows and don't make too much noise.
>>341989403
Cloud seeding is the only way to prevent global warming
Do not dissent, this is for yours and the Earth's benefit.
>>342001264
No, it was just derivative from common bydlo exclamation "fucking" (eбa(ный)), the abbreviation was made up later during the forcing process.
>>342001676
it's a screencap from e3 demo, just in case you're serious.
I got a bug in my implants.
No, like, an actual bug.
And I don't think it's a natural, nature bred bug.
>>342001890
I was serious, and by God that's terrible. Only because it looks like shit visually. Day time missions I can get around.
>>342001761
Thanks I'll send some Nuyen your way
>>342002003
They said it had day/night cycle. Of course if that's the case I will be out for daytime almost never.
Check the video on jewtube.
Someone needs to come along and level this genre up. Cyberpunk was so psychadelic in its early days, these days people think it shouldn't be.
needs more PKD worship and Loa
>>342002003
It's compressed and it was ps4 version, we still can hope for slightly better visuals
>tfw no cyberpunk gf
why even live bros
>>342002003
If you preorder collectors edition, you will get higher resolution textures.
>>342002292
so you can kys
it amusesgod
>>342002197
>They said it had day/night cycle
They didn't say anything about day/night cycle. It's just some missions take place during day or during night, it's not realtime, you can't pass time.
>>342002214
>PKD
he didn't really do a lot of cyberpunk though
he was more cold war paranoia
>>342002214
I get satisfaction only, AND ONLY, from table rpg sessions with friends. Genre is in the same status as Mech vidya, and it saddens my heart.
>>342002720
Polycystic Kidney Disease?
The putrid bright lights of Club /v/ reflected off the rain slicked road. I gritted my teeth and crossed over, burying fists into my trench coat, trying to ignore the wooing of the sexbots and the jumped up pushers trying to sell me Jet, or whatever cheap synthdrug cocktail they'd stolen from the labs this week.
"If memes you seek, find yee Club /v/", thats what my contact had told me. And here I was. What made me take the advice of a fugitive hacker in a hermit's cave, I don't know. Perhaps I was desperate, or perhaps I liked the danger. If the Agency were hunting me here, let them come. And if a few "innocent" lives got caught in the crossfire, I wouldn't be crying. "A hive of degeneracy" proudly read the motto of this establishment, Christ, what a fuckin' hell hole.
I love these threads.
>he STILL hasn't left his meatsack behind
what the fuck are you even doing with your life?
>>342002961
Please, continue
>>341994782
some serious HR Giger vibes
>>341981242
What she mean by this?
>>342000473
You're fine, just remember to check your legs now and again.
>>342003018
>wanting to become a glorified daemon, under surveillance 24/7, to be fried the millisecond an unauthorized task is executed
No thanks.
Cyberpunk is relative.
>>341995901
this desu
>>342003018
I simply couldn't live without a glass of Disaronno at night.
>>342003146
>listen to heavy metal
>talk shit about people on the other side of the world via the internet
>perform astronomy
>>342003395
>relative
it is, to be honest, family
>wanted WD2 to go deeper into cyberpunk
>it went backwards, added memes and a nigger
Sad. I'll keep my hopes for WD3 though. If they fuck up that one too, I'll abandon them.
>>342003498
I have a bottle sitting in my fridge, you drink it raw?
>>342003384
>he thinks he isn't already under surveillance 24/7
>>342003623
>2016
>Still giving a shit about Ubisoft
>>341986582
haha nice one!
>>342003948
fuck
I sure am glad I got my bionic ass implants to simulate organic asspain.
>tfw no qt3.14 robot gf
