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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqv34KlLs9oWhy are these nasty people trying to


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqv34KlLs9o

Why are these nasty people trying to ruin our games?

Why?

They know why there can be no male Link, but they refuse to acknowledge any reasoning.

They're not gonna stop til they get their way, are they?

Here's hoping this huge phase/meme of femenism has died down before the next zelda comes around to be developed.
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>>341860743
>They know why there can be no male Link
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>>341861206
It's been explained to them quite a bit, they just disregard it or try and come up with some fucked up alteration to the lore in which link all of a sudden wakes up a female.

Why can't they just be like "Ah really? shit, well that's just too bad I guess. Let's go try make Kratos in GoW a girl instead."
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>>341861389
Read the sentence again, very carefully.
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>>341860743
to be fair the whole "balance of the triforce" explanation made no sense whatsoever
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>>341861871
It's flimsy at best but satisfies my preference of keeping Link male in future titles because I feel pointless, stupid change just for the sake of change is stupid.
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>>341862158
I thought the "why swap link when we could just use zelda" statement was much more reasonable, it's what smart people have been saying ever since this whole femlink meme started

...though the explanation for not doing that was kinda bad again
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>>341862158
>>341861871

the only way that retarded argument would make any sense would be if there were 3 genders
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>jimquisition link

stop promoting your shitty youtube channel
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Why do people insist on linking to this fedora lord?
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>Nintendo thinks that a playable girl would have to be Zelda

Why not just use Linkle?

Speaking of which, why the fuck does Linkle even exist? I was 99% certain they were setting up gender choices for the next Zelda game when they added that retarded character to Hyrule Warriors
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>>341862768
There's a male hero who's bound to "save" the princess. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

>>341862605
I certainly agree with having a Zelda driven game first, though I've yet to hear a good concept that could drive the game.
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>>341862912
>why the fuck does Linkle even exist?
Koei Tecmo
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>>341861871
>>341862605

It was a watered down explanation, but I get where anouma is coming from.

This is what I posted on that video to try and explain why Anouma is right in what he says. It got completely ignored ofcourse because they cant argue with it unless they resort to, "but I wannaaaaaaaaa!!!!"

Pic related, couldnt paste the comment cause too long.

>>341862789
>>341862819

Cause he's a fucking faggot who seems to be getting attention for some god awful reason.
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>>341860743
I seriously don't even know how this whole bullshit began.

>someone spins a rumor out of his ass
>people buy into it and get unrealistic expectations
>nintendo is actually responding to these people
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>>341860743
He doesn't have a problem with a male Link. The problem is Aounuma's dumb excuse for it.

If Aonuma had just said nothing or something like "Link has always been male" it would have been fine.
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>>341862768
The only way a playable Zelda instead of Link that would make sense is switching the triforce of courage with the triforce of wisdom. And why should that happen?

Link is the hero of the story because he is the embodiment of courage and adventurism. So the question is kinda relevant: If Zelda is the protagonist, what the fuck would Link do?
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>>341862605

They don't get that a female link trying to save a Prince Zelda would render Zelda thoroughly unlikable to most people.

Especially that shitty Game Concept Document that makes a male Zelda/Prince Link look profoundly effeminate and spoilt.

I don't buy that they cant relate to Male Link/Female Zelda because of their genders. Both of them have barely any personality anyway, there's nothing THERE to relate to, so why woud anyone give a shit? They're shitty characters, literally nothing but husks. The only reason they're so desperate to get Link's gender swapped is as an exercise of of the power of their social influence, nothing more.
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>>341862990
You're talking about destiny, not the balance of the triforce. And Ganon has a piece of the triforce too

As it stands right now, the gender "balance" is lopsided 2 to 1, the only thing making Link a girl would do is flop that imbalance to the other side.

I don't care either way, but that balance shit Aonuma tried to pull made no goddamn sense whatsoever. He should have just told the truth and said he didn't want a girl Link instead of trying to soften the blow for crybaby SJWs
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Both sides of the argument are dumb as fuck. There doesn't -need- to be a female Link but there's also absolutely no reason there couldn't be.
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>>341863081
Because Nintendo's vocal online community has become a den of degeneracy and depravity, but Nintendo still wants their money so they're playing their game in favor of garnering some good PR. Instead of, you know, telling them "fuck off, it's our game".
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>>341863268
Why does the triforce of Courage need to be held by a guy? Or Wisdom by a girl?

These are just bullshit arbitrary made up rules that aren't mentioned anywhere in Zelda lore.

I don't care that there's no girl player, but I wish Nintendo and its drones would just own up to their decision instead of pulling these retarded mental gymnastics
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>>341863768
The triforce of courage is always passed on to the incarnation of goddess Hylia, which is always Zelda.

The triforce of courage is passed on to the descendent of the great hero of time, who always replicates the previous ones.

That's why.
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>>341861871

BECAUSE THE REQUEST MAKES NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER

THE CREATORS CREATED LINK, THEY CREATED HIM MALE, THEY WANT HIM MALE, THEY HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT TO CHOOSE, THEY WERE EVEN TOO KIND TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION, IF IT WAS ME I WOULD SAY "BECAUSE I FUCKING WANT HIM MALE, SUE ME NIGGER"
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>>341863056
That whole autistic rant does not bother to explain why an incarnation of Link can't be female. It doesn't really matter if the previous hero of time was male.

Also, Zelda can easily swap Triforces with link because magic motherfuckers.

So the whole thing is kinda fucking dumb.
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>>341861389
>you will never suddenly wake up as a female
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>>341860743
The excuses by Nintendo have been really bad.
I just dont think the audience wants to hear the real truth which is "We want Link to be a boy and we have commissioned tons of toys and merchandise featuring a boy"
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It's Jim Sterling, the guy's entire "career" is based off of being as contrarian and stupid as possible for the clicks.

How this guy still has an audience is beyond me. Gamers must be really fucking dumb.
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>>341864137
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>>341863572
>>341864080
there doesn't need to be. The developers already stated their reasons, there's no justification needed to keep link male.
Sake for the sake of change is a fallacy.
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>jimquisition

How did this guy get an audience to listen to his babel?

>Fat
>Greasy
>black and red aesthetic
>fedora/trenchcoat/gloves worn """ironically"""

Who gave this fucker the time of day?
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>>341864137
Not with that attitude.
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>>341860743
He seemed pretty reasonable about the whole "Link isn't female" thing, only mad at the limp-wristed reasons given for it instead of just saying "we don't want Link to be female, he's always male"

Maybe all that extra fat he's gotten has made him a much more jolly fellow
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>>341863268
>The only way a playable Zelda instead of Link that would make sense is switching the triforce of courage with the triforce of wisdom.
...Why? Triforce of Wisdom doesn't make her incapable of going out and doing stuff. See: OoT Sheik, Tetra, ST Zelda. If anything her approach would just be more strategic instead of head on combat.

Of course Link is the chosen hero of the goddess (=Zelda) so making him a damsel or having Zelda "one-up" him would make no sense whatsoever. But a playable Zelda could easily work if they made a game take place during a time/place where there's no Link around to save the day.
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>>341863768
>Why does the triforce of Courage need to be held by a guy? Or Wisdom by a girl?
Because the holder of the Triforce of courage happens to be Link and the holder of the triforce of wisdom happes to be Zelda. It's not that hard to grasp.

It's either stick to it or reboot the shit out of everything established just to please some self-entitled faggots.
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>>341864080

lmao you just want to masturbate to femlink
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>>341864336
Probably fat, greasy people who wear fedoras and trenchcoats in balck and red too, aka the majority of people who play video games.
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>>341860743
It's the same thing as the black Bond meme.
These parasites can't create, they can only complain. It's better to ignore them, but instead you've potentially given that fat fuck ad revenue x19.
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>>341864576
This. The term “gamer” usually conjures up a torrent of awful connotations: an exclusively white-male circle jerk where the only manifestation of “diversity” is between the Cheetos-stained 4chan nerds with a sunlight problem and fedora-wearing MRM creeps who fancy themselves activists. You can catch all of them gushing over first-person shooters and probably trading furry porn at a LAN party, a place where anybody else wouldn’t be caught dead.
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>>341862158
>It's flimsy at best but satisfies my preference
Yes, that's it, really. There's no real argument to be made. It all comes down to this.
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>>341861389
Good, after that shit demo GoW is dead to me.
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>>341864706
Same argument on the femlink side
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>>341862912
Koei wanted more waifus
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>>341864080

You're literally saying "fuck the lore, lets just change shit up cause magic lol"

In that case, why bother with lore? Why not leave it a blank, genderless character running around killing other blank, genderless characters and going through dungeons to gather pieces of the magic triangle to save the GENDERLESS offspring of the GENDERLESS LEADER of Hyrule from the big bad monster guy WHO IS NOT A GUY AND IS GENDERLESS.

Also it does matter if the previous hero of time was male because the hero of time is always reborn as the same character. The hero of time IS male.
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>>341864706
I'm not ashamed - I have no problem with female led games at all but when it comes to a Zelda title there's staples I just want to see, one of them being Link being male.

Change for the sake of change is just stupid.
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>>341861389
>Let's go try make Kratos in GoW a girl instead.
For some reason it never bothered me too much with all this "WE WANT A FEMALE LINK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" shit, but now where you mentioned the same thing with other franchises I realized how fucking stupid this is. Why is this a thing only with the Zelda franchise? Its pretty much only Zelda where people insist on a female verison for no real reason of the maincharacter who ALWAYS was male.
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>>341860743
>fags not wanting to play a fit Fem elf
Fags
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>>341865020
The baffling part of it is how female dominated the Zelda fanbase is who constantly schlick themselves to Link.
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>>341863994
No, that's just how shit turned out when Ganondorf's big meaty Gerudo hands accidentally broke the fuck out of the Triforce in OoT. The Triforce pieces attuned with the people who best encapsulated their properties.
The fact that they end up with the "same" people is either coincidental, or the result of a Triforce piece being directly handed down via bloodline, like in TP, or maybe even both.
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Why is there no female Mario?
Why is nobody asking for a female Mario?
What's the difference?
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>>341864448

>But a playable Zelda could easily work if they made a game take place during a time/place where there's no Link around to save the day.

We all know any such game would be slammed the fuck out of for being pointless and pandering and not to mention would almost definitely be really, really shit.

They could by all means make a segment in a future game where Link is somehow incapacitated for some time and Zelda becomes the protagonist who must complete some tasks to save Link, that'd be completely fine. She just couldn't be the actual hero who finishes the game.
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>>341861871
The problem here is not the explanation, but rather Jim's and every other retard that hasn't taken time to read up on the lore and understand it. Skyward Sword, which is the first Zelda in the timeline, ends with Demise more or less starting the cycle, with him, Link and Zelda .

Of course, they might go "UUGH REINCARNATION ISN'T GENDERED". You know, except maybe it is, or maybe the fucking souls themselves have a say in it. And let's not forget that Ganondorf in OoT was born a male in a tribe that almost only gives birth to females. WE gonna fucking pretend it's just a coincidence that Ganondorf is born male in a tribe that only has ONE fucking male born once a century?

That's the gist of it, this >>341863056
anmon explains it much better than me.
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>>341865259
Someone didn't play Skyward Sword.
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>>341865020
>Why is this a thing only with the Zelda franchise?
Because Zelda is a series in which the main character being the same spirit existing over multiple different reincarnations is explicitly canon.
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>>341860743
>Vanquish was shit
stopped right there
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>>341864440
>>341864296
>>341864168

Miyamoto literally said this two days ago.

He stated that all mainline Zelda titles will have a male protagonist, Link, but they're considering using Sheik or Zelda (same character, I know) as the protag of a spin-off title. And this is because Link is an established character.
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>>341865475
I DID play Skyward Sword, which is why I can definitively say you're wrong.
A huge part of that game's later plot is Link going through trials to balance out his virtues of Power, Wisdom, and Courage so he can physically obtain the Triforce as a whole.
Ganon was wildly imbalanced in the favor of power, so it broke when he tried to touch it. There's nothing "predestined" about it.
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>>341865259
You didn't play Skyward sword, did you?
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>>341865787
>There's nothing "predestined" about it.
For someone who claimed to play SS, swing and a fucking miss.
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>>341865928
The curse of Demise is entirely coincidental to how the Triforce splits up. It's a physical object with specific rules.
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>>341865787
You mean beside the fucking fact that Demise started the whole fucking cycle with Link, Zelda and Ganondorf/Demise?
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God what an annoying cunt.
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>>341866068
Whatever you say, anon.
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>>341861871
To be fair any reason or just a summit le no should be good.

Link is an ov r 20 year old character, Nintendo doesn't need to give a reason for why they don't want to change his sex.
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>I WANT A GAME WHERE I CAN PLAY AS PEACH
>Nintendo makes Super Princess Peach
>Nobody plays it
>I WANT A GAME WHERE I CAN PLAY AS A FEMALE LINK
>Nintendo makes Linkle
>Nobody plays it

I just want Super Princess Peach: Zelda Edition. Hell, I'd pay for DLC for Breath of the Wild if we could do the same, or a similar, adventure as Zelda, using her magic and clothes tailored for her.
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>>341866150
The point is that the Triforce doesn't attune to Link and Zelda just because they're the Hero and the Goddess, it attunes to them because they most embody courage and wisdom respectively. Those things are only tangentially related.
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You disgusting lard-asses always seem to find some other disgusting lard-ass e-celeb like yourselves to pay attention to. It's pathetic. You had Boogie and you have this guy.

How can you even pay attention to someone that grotesquely obese for more than .05 seconds? If you have an IQ over 100 you should already be so suspicious of anything someone that unhealthy and abusive has to say that it wouldn't be worth the time and effort. You'd just move on to 1000 other people who aren't such degenerates that you could literally see it from a mile away.

That is, unless like I said, you're disgusting heaps of blubber yourselves who keep to your own. In which case I'm just telling you to kill yourself, fatty. Your hormones and neurotransmitters are all fucked up and nothing you say will ever matter until you get down to an acceptable BMI for about a decade.
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>>341866068
You're wrong.

Demise/Ganon is the embodiment of power.
Zelda is the embodiment of wisdom.
Link is the embodiment of courage.

When Ganon touches the triforce, his overpowerdness breaks it up and the courage part goes to link, the wisdom part goes to Zelda.

How can you say that is coincidential?
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>>341866525
They embody courage and wisdom because they're the hero and the goddess.

Are you dumb?
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>>341860743
>Why can't Link be female?
>Because we don't want him to be.
>Why?
>Because - - -

>Those reasons aren't good enough for me!!!
Fuck these people. There is no reason for Link to be female. It is perfectly in their rights to leave Link male.
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>>341866525
You need help.
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>>341864137
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>>341866573
I watched the video once to see what he was bitching about, got 2/3 of the way through and paused it to read comments.

These people disgust me and I'd much rather never have to interact with this shit again , but when it's trying to fuck with something you like... what else do you do?
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>>341861871
>2 holes down there
>2 dicks down there
DUH
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>>341866525

Ok now I know you either definitely didn't play skyward sword or you're just retarded.

Power = evil
Wisdom = Hylia/Zelda
Courage = Hero of time/Link

Those are all tied to eachother without a doubt.
Pls stop replying because you clearly know fuck all.
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It's because these type of people have concept of narrative causality and would sacrifice telling a good story or telling a story in a good way just to make their fee fees feel better.
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>>341866630
Because Link touches the Triforce in Skyward Sword and it DOESN'T BREAK. In that moment, he embodies all three virtues equally, proving it's a conditional variable that can be changed.
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>>341867134
now I see clearer, thank you anon
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>>341867140
>Power=evil
Power is neutral, all of the qualities are, they're facets of the Goddesses. Power is the most easily corrupted, but that does not make it an absolute that it is evil.
People like you who insist that certain parts of Zelda's lore "have" to be a certain way are the reason the series became so thematically stale to begin with.
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>>341867209
But that's an edit

Also is is "progressive" to support Israel or go against it?
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>>341866523
>Nintendo makes Linkle
>Nobody plays it
Hey man, I already bought HW for the Wii U. Like hell am I going to buy it again for the 3DS, especially with that framerate.
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>>341860743
Jim says that for the Patreon bucks.
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>>341867840
When are those toons coming to the Wii U? Still says summer 2016
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>>341867809
>But that's an edit
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>>341867971
I honestly don't know.
Stopped paying attention to it once I learned that the Wii U wouldn't get the Adventure maps.
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Nintendo should never have released the timeline.

It just gives crazy types the ability to justify anything they want.
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>>341867809
>But that's an edit
No, it's not.
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>>341864178
Even Guru Larry shits on him.
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Why does Nintendo need to give an amazing reason when the only reason people can give for Link to be a grill is "WELL, THERE'S NO REASON HE CAN'T BE!"
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I don't see why Link can't be a girl. I don't care one way or another, but there's no particular reason (outside of "the devs want him male") that the Hero of Time could not reincarnate as a girl. It wouldn't really even require much explanation. She'd still hold the triforce of courage, she'd just be a lady is all.

That said, who honestly gives any amount of a fuck about what gender the player character is in any videogame? Or for that matter, the appearance of the player character at all? As long as it isn't lore-breaking to whichever game it applies to.

I don't know why nu-males, tumblrinas, and most of /v/ get their jimmies so rustled over something as ultimately meaningless as character appearance.
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>>341860743
The Japanese don't give a shit about American minority groups trying to create flaws where there are none.
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>>341860743
If Nintendo would listen to these people, then BotW would be a grimdark game with a shitload of characters and part strategy.
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>>341867809
>But that's an edit

I'm so sorry. And, honestly, I don't think "progressive" types have a hard stance on Israel. That whole situation is such a clusterfuck that I don't think any of them are really informed enough to say which one is "right"
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>>341865693
>>341864168
>>341860743
>>341868405
>>341868454
They're not going to say it, but you know Nintendo is looking at Pokemon's diverse character options.
If you open one door with Link's gender being customizable, it would be exclusive and hypocritical not to open the flood gates for different skin colors.

Japanese devs know the gender and diversity thing is a minefield in the west. Just look at what the devs of Summer Lesson said. They made it as clear as possible. People will endlessly cry "Why am I not represented?"

Nintendo tries to be fair creating a cast of diverse characters, but they won't sacrifice Link. Because they know just like the Summer Lesson devs, there's no satisfying these idiots. Not until Link is made a martyr for their cause and becomes some kind of amorphous blob.
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>Nintendo announces the next Zelda will have a female Link
>but the next Metroid will have a male Samus

How do the EssJayDubbleyous react, /v/?
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>>341869023
>but the next Metroid will have a male Samus
Would take make Metroid gay or would they change it into a female robot?
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>>341869023
They don't buy either game just like before.
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>sjws: a persons physical gender doesn't represent his/her spiritual gender

>same sjjws: Why can't Link be reincarnated as a female? It's always a different Link


Which one is it?

Also: Let's start a petition in advance to keep Link male in the next Zelda game in 2020.

Something Like
"Dear Nintendo/Aonuma, don't let western feminist bloggers fool you. These people don't buy your games and aren't even interested in your franchise. Zelda is an easy target for them because...blabla".

We need him to know that there are Fans out there who don't want this.
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>>341868219
Minimize backlash. The honest statement would be

>We are the creators. The game reflects our visions. We have no gender agenda we want to push. We currently do not want to monetize on foreign gender agenda that probably will not fit with our Japanese customers. Thank you for your feedback.

This is a completely sound and logic answer and yet it would probably push a lot of buttons Nintendo never would want to.

>>341868756
It's also a warped sense of reality. With the western approach of community inclusion in development processes, people suddenly expect to have right at being represented in anything. For games, the lines between "artistic creation" and "mass production delivery service" are way too thin these days and this does certainly not help the discourse.

People should make requests and tolerate that those might be ignored.
Instead, people make demands and wonder why developers don't deliver promptly.
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>>341869221
I think after that massive bum rush to play BotW at E3 they are more than aware there are fans out there.

Honestly, ever since actual footage of the game has come out I haven't seen anyone outside of the fuckhead in the OP complain about Link's gender. Everyone seems too genuinely hype for this game, and Jimbo Canucklehead is just baiting for views (successfully so, I might add)
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>>341869285
But there wouldn't be any backlash if people didn't expect it because of some """"leak"""" from a discredited twitter person.
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They won't make Link female because it is too important of an IP.

They are currently making theme parks and merchandise to capitalize on the Zelda World. Nintendo isn't desperate like comics and even there they recognize that the iconic versions must star in the versions people actually pay attention to which are the movies.
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>>341869645
People really need to stop and think before they tweet dumb shit.
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>>341869416
But Aonuma said that he became aware of the whole "female Link" shit that went on on internet boards. Thats huge since I'm sure he doesn't spend all his time browsing Neogaf or some crap. I really read it everywhere. It's like a virus.

Idiots who never liked Zelda hear about it. Think to themselves "Oh...i never liked zelda, but maybe if he is female I could give it a shot." Then posts his shitty opinion everywhere and likeminded sheep agree by the thousands.
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>>341869221
>spiritual gender
Don't make stuff up.
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>>341862768
But there are?

Zelda is a girl
Ganondorf is a boy
Link is a cute girl (male)
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>>341869221
>"Dear Nintendo/Aonuma, don't let western feminist bloggers fool you. These people don't buy your games and aren't even interested in your franchise. Zelda is an easy target for them because...blabla".
You should let someone else handle this part.
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>>341869753
>>341869776
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>>341869935
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>>341861389
Kratos is a single character. "Link" is many different characters who gets new origins as the games go on, and who's name isn't really even "Link" every time.
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>>341869805
I don't. When trans people say "They feel like they are in the wrong body" this is what it implies. That their brain/soul is that of the opposite sex. (Which is retarded)
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>>341862912
>I was 99% certain they were setting up gender choices for the next Zelda game when they added that retarded character to Hyrule Warriors

That's a big leap. It seemed pretty obvious it was just SJW pandering. Naturally no SJW will care that they're breaking so many other Zelda conventions in terms of gameplay. So superficial.
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I legitimately wanted a female link, she could even wear the same clothes and shit, just add boobs and it's done
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>>341870143
Gender is psychological, not "spiritual". Modern science doesn't do with souls.
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>>341869915
I wasn't really trying to come up with something. Also, I'm not a native english speaker. Obviously I wouldn't write it myself.
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>>341869678
I'm not sure what point you want to make. The reason doesn't matter that much. If they put enough motion behind it, SJWs can work with
>WELL, THERE'S NO REASON HE CAN'T BE!
just as well, like the previous anon pointed out. In a warped discussions filled with misunderstandings, this is not that uncommon.
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>>341861871
its balance between link - zelda - ganondorf

how hard it is to understand?
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>>341870215
>It seemed pretty obvious it was just SJW pandering.
Weird how it seems so obvious to you. Maybe because you made it up.
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>>341870037
I'm surprised he's still posting after getting BTFO so hard last month for his Will Eisner comment
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>>341870215
>It seemed pretty obvious it was just SJW pandering.
It wasn't, dipshit. Koei Tecmo created her for the waifufags. Why do you think do they even add characters like Marin?
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>>341870367
...and that balance requires two penis?
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Why not just make a character customizer like every other rpg with a silent protagonist since 2005?
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>>341870406
Why else would they do it? Who else would have wanted a female Link?
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>>341869753
It's Aaron Diaz. He's a fucking narcissist Artiste who draws a comic about his own pefect create-a-waifu at a snail's pace for a living.

The man is high on the smell of his own delicate farts, and thinks that because he drew some mediocre rule 63 of a character (because that's really all his Zelda "concept" is) that he should have a say in this 30 year old franchise, and the creator and director should just do as he and the rest of that whiny, childish section of the internet say.

Not like their bullshit even matters. Breath of the Wild has enough driving force now that it's going to move NX consoles no matter what the specs turn out to be.
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>>341869645
I blame this fuckhead and his shitty Zelda fanfic. Every tumblrina and bloggers started jizzing about the idea of reversing roles.
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>>341860743
>trying to reason with the mentally ill
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>>341870448
Yes, so they can stick one in either end and high-five to form a triforce.
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>>341870273
>Gender is psychological, not "spiritual". Modern science doesn't do with souls.

You can't explain the human soul with science.
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>>341860743
Actual girls need to start defending their husbando. Nothing more glorious than these faggots getting btfo by an actual vagina.
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>>341870412
I need to see this.

Also apparently he sent his Zelda ideas to Nintendo and got a C&D.

>>341870448
Zelda has two holes.
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>>341870406
>>341870432
But "must be gender options in the new zelda" is definitely a reasonable assumption. Makes sense.
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>>341870468
That's even worse. Go to your room, you are grounded.
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No.
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>>341870660
wat
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Can I post on here again or is Australia still banned?
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>>341870594
>RPing spirituality is the new meme
I miss atheist 4chan.
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>>341870658
>Zelda has two holes

Huh, which holes is she missing?
We know she has a mouth.
Is she anus-less?
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>>341870143
They actually feel as if wrongly hard-wired in their brain. There's actual physical representation in the brain for that. Even without that, it would be too common to justify dismissing it as hallucination.

You may treat it as a mental condition, some people need that to rationalize it for themselves. However, it certainly has nothing to do with actual retardation, which is a real thing, or paranormal bullshit like souls, which certainly is not a real thing.
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>>341870468
Yeah and make the combat more like Soulsborne and then let me traverse the world like shadow the hedgehog and have a dialogue wheel.
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>>341870594
That's what I said. Just like you can't explain astrology either.
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>>341870741
>didn't read the conversation
>just replied to random comment
>"w-wat m8?"
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>>341870861
Grills don't poop.
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>>341870658
He's deleted it (of course) but just do a search for it. There were a lot of funny replies.
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>mfw Zelda is destined to a life of memes before it's even begun

Fuck downgradefags. Fuck "Link should be a girl" fags. Fuck this goddamn industry I just want to talk about vidya.
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>>341870975
Oh, now I get what you're saying. Looked like a load of gibberish at first.

Yes that is a much more reasonable assumption really.
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I hate these goddamn roasties trying to turn a pure femboi into a nasty roasty to fuel their narcisism
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>>341870702
Only on the internet would someone listen to someone like this.

Jim Sterling is a fat, pale, sweaty slob with an arrogant attitude. This is the worst combination for ugly people because then they have 0 redeeming qualities. Would you listen to someone acting, looking and probably smelling like this in real life? Talk about bad genes.
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>>341860743
It's simple really.

Because suddenly changing a 30-year icon like that is stupid. Remember when Marvel fell for this fad and did it for their characters? Remember how successful that was?

Did he not watch the treehouse event and notice that the women playing wanted to leave him shirtless? Does he not know why this series attracts so many women in the first place?
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>>341870912
The difference is that one is bullshit and the other is a two millenia-old organized system of coherent and consistent beliefs
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>>341865498
A male spirit, yeah. I could imagine the outrage if Zelda turned out to be the king this time.
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It's such a shame because the new Zelda game seems so fucking cool and I don't even like Zelda games.
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>>341861871
The 'balance' is the 'hero saves princess from big bad guy' thing
Anything else is not truly a loz game.
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>aaron diaz
What a faggot.
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>>341860743
Why is he ok with FF's and GTA's explanations but not BotW's?
What kind of shitty hypocrisy is this?
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I hate this cunt but he's right, those are some retarded excuses and I don't see why anyone would get triggered over that video.
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>>341871217
Yeah, souls are pretty bullshit.
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>>341862912
Linkle is retarded OC trash designed to appease idiots and it partially worked.
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>>341868756
Jap devs still don't give a fuck.
Your Summer Lesson example is just them going "Oh well, there's too much work satisfying the DIVERSE groups in the west with this game"
SJW's influence has reached Japan, but instead of laying down flat like the western developers do-they just don't plan on localising it.
It will take YEARS for them to realise that the people complaining are in the micro-minority and not their audience at all.
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>>341863572
There is, it's called canon.
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Anyone got the rest of Dobson's tweets on this?
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>>341860743
Why are journos so fucking obsessed about Zelda. There are hundreds of video game franchises with male protags, but they are this butthurt only about Zelda.
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KEEP LINK A TWINK

REMOVE SJWS
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I've never once heard a good reason for why Zelda needs a genderswapped Link as a playable character. And no, "I want more fap fuel" and "IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR" are not good reasons.

What would a female Link actually add to a Zelda game? Why would playing as a female Link benefit the series? People seem to forget that while Link a bit of a player insert he does have his own personality and is a bit of his own character.
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>>341871497
Yup, down the drain
And straight into the pre-order lines.
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>>341871151
>claims to get it
>clearly doesn't

I'm not even sure if you're trolling or a retard anymore.
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Get fucked. Link will never be a female. Period. Like aonuma already said: If there is ever to be a female lead in a zelda game then it might as well just be zelda herself or sheik.
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>>341871497
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>>341871670
>Disagree with someone
>"hurr you clearly didn't get it"

Are you sure you're not the retard?
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>>341871653
O N E G A M E
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>>341871497
>>341871747
Does he still get like $10 on Patreon?
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I want the next Metroid to be a man
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>>341871747
Link of this shithead?
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Every time this argument comes up, I say that Link should be female for a game if Samus is male for a game since it makes about as much sense for that to happen.

That usually makes the fem-Link brigade mad enough to shit rivets so you can call them out on their blatant hypocrisy.
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>>341870143
Gender dysphoria is an extremely rare condition that less than .1% of the world's population legitimately have.
The rest of the transgenders are special snowflakes who instead of embracing their sexuality went on a rampage surgically and hormonally to make themselves look like the gender they are "attracted" to.
Transitioning is an incredibly lucrative business for doctors, surgeons and pharmaceutical companies. Just accepting that a person is born in the wrong body based on feelings instead of actually having them psycho-analysed is common today.
It shouldn't be, but thanks to PC-culture it is.
The suicide-rate that the SJW always relegate to "harassment" and "transphobia" is just that person realising they fucked up and are just a gay male or a gay female.
Caitlyn Jenner will transition back in a few years and people will get pissed. Just wait and see.
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>>341871780
You stated you didn't get it. Not me.
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>>341871626
You know who else has way less characterization than Link? That chick from dinosaur tribal game Horizon. And yet no one is asking for that game to have gender options, even though you could also make it with minimal affect on the story or gameplay.
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>>341871747
Link will always be male, just like Dobson will always be a fat balding man with an inflation fetish
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>>341871789
Yup
One game used in every single game station that could fit at their booth they'd normally have for demos, and yet still the longest line in E3 history, or at least since the Wii reveal.

>Nintendo made a mistake by having only one game playable at E3
Evidently not.
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Of course the real Diaz has a selfinsert as some tech genius mentor.

>>341871045
>>341871497
It should be allowed to punch people this stupid.
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>>341871521
Because Zelda is one of the few Nintendo franchises left that still attracts gamers out of the autistic Nintendrone perspective.
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Anouma worded that entirely wrong, what's pissing people off is the Zelda sentence.

All they needed to say was that they feel Link has a personality and is not a self insert for the player, therefore they do not want to allow you to choose Link's gender at the start of the game. That's essentially what me means in this quote, however bringing up Zelda and the "What would Link do?" shit just confounds and upsets people because while it does confirm Link will have a static gender it also confirms that we'll probably never have a Zelda game because then there would be nothing for Link to do.
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>>341861389
>Let's go try make Kratos in GoW a girl instead
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>>341860743
All he says tho is that he doesn't care about gender but Nintendo's explanation was shit
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>>341871930
You clearly didn't get it.
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>>341871853
>>341871896
Seriously. Honestly, I don't want either but it'd be nice to see how these idiots would react if Nintendo did some reveal on a new Metroid with a manly looking Samus, leaving similar confusion.
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>>341871497
>>341871747
>2014
>"Hey, Link looks kinda like a girl this time, I think they're making link a girl!"
>Aonuma: "Sorry, but this link is male."
>"We said it, so there's no way they can ignore us!"
>2016
>Aonuma: "Here is the new Zelda, please enjoy"
>"I can't believe they didn't make Link a girl what a bunch of sexist bullshit"
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>>341871938

Nobody's asking for that because nobody gives a fuck about Horizon.
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>>341870037
The thing is that he could have worked on Zelda if he really wanted to.
He's a good concept artist.
The only problem is that he cannot be arsed to make a change like most hashtag activists.
If he started learning Japanese and moved to Japan in his 20s, he would have most likely been accepted on a ground-level position at Nintendo and worked his way up.
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How do you think these people would react if they made Samus male?
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>>341872198
Thanks for being cancer.
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>>341872012
Proof that you literally can't win with SJWs
Why even bother trying to side with them?
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>>341872006
That post was either bait which you swallowed whole, or it was praising the game for drawing such a crowd by itself.

Either way don't be so defensive about the games you like, people around here feed on it.
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>>341872028
But why not care about non-Nintendo franchises? In fact why the fuck have they ignored all the franchises that allowed them to play as women?
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>>341871747
After this LotZ game comes out we should drop a rumor about next Link having brown hair. He would lose his shit when it'll turn out that it's fake.
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>>341871853
>>341871896
>>341872245
Their answer to this is always that Samus is the same Samus across all the games and has more of a personality so it's not the same.
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>>341872150
It's actually better than the original.
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>>341870037
>knowingly mislead people
How fucking deluded are these people?
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>>341872283
It has some people interested. The threads here are largely positive toward it.
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>>341864080
Did you play SS? Demise cursed Link to forever be locked in battle through time.
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>>341872285
>He's a good concept artist.
AHAHAHAHAHA

No. He's mediocre. You know how artists like to draw so big you can still see the strokes? Usually it still looks good if not even better up close.

Diaz is one of those where it falls apart. You can see how much of a hack he is. You can even tell when it's scaled down.
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>>341872297
>>341872245
>>341871896
It would be called "progressive" and used as fuel to further their argument that all characters should be gender swapped at least once.
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>>341872430
Nintendo has lots of casual mainstream appeal, so it gets lots of idiots asking for stupid shit. Pretty much that simple.
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>>341872504
Link is the same person across all games too. Literally a reincarnation every time. And I mean, reincarnation, far as I understand it, is far more literal in the Zelda universe.
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>>341870037
>my own false assumptions are the fault of the Nintendo corporation and Aonuma. Assholes!

Fucking kek, what a faggot.
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>>341872517
It's actually not
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>>341871626
it would be different, and in a series where things are always generally pretty much the same with a few gimmicks/tweaks, this seems like a fine little mini-gimmick.

Truth be told i dont really care about getting a female link or male zelda or whatever, but i find the immense hatred toward the concept confusing. Its a fine idea that could very well work.
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>>341872698
Whoa, is that Moss?
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>>341872348
Well, unfortunately, if you're a good person you can't really help siding with them.
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Why didn't feminists ever pick up on Game BOY?
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>>341872504
>Has more of a personality
Because she has a few mission statements?
>Same Samus
It was written that Link is always reincarnated the same way. I don't understand the difference.

Honestly, I don't even have an issue with them making Link female. My issue lies in these people literally begging to be pandered towards. It's not "progressive," it's entitlement, and it makes their reasoning seem so insincere.
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>>341871169
He tries to mask his arrogance by making it seem like an act.
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>>341872820
It is. Mohawks are radical.
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>>341872348
All it shows is that Aaron Diaz doesn't actually care about feminist issues at all and just wants brownie points with girls. I'm sure his only reason for playable Zelda is for waifu reasons.
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Why do people so worked up about genders?

Link is a guy because the creators wanted him to be a guy. There's no sexist reason behind it.

What's next? Make two movies with a male MC and female MC?
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>>341872943
Go back to tumblr
SJWs are constantly in the wrong and want to end the most important values we hold dear, such as free speech.
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>>341872504
NUH-UH ANON!!! YOU CAN TOTALLY CHANGE SAMUS' GENDER AND IT WON'T EVEN MATTER BECAUSE HE IS IN A SUIT AND YOU WON'T EVEN SEE HIM ANYWAYS JUST PUT A GENDER SELECTION SCREEN IN AFTER YOU CHOOSE NEW GAME IT'S TOTALLY EASY YOU SHITLORD I JUST THINK YOU'RE AFRAID OF CHANGE LIKE A MALE SAMUS AND MAYBE A GIRL RIDLEY BECAUSE RIDLEY IS TOTALLY A GIRL NAME TOO SINCE IT'S CLOSE TO RIPLEY LIKE IN ALIEN RIGHT?

See? The sword cuts both ways.
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>>341872732
But why aren't these idiots also bothering other people. ASAIK they also play non-Nintendo games.
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>>341873024
They're meh. And you could just put one on Kratos if you really want one.
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>>341872297

I wish they made her a trap.
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>>341873095
If you want to show you're in the right then blatant strawmen are not the way to go.
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>kick out gobblegate
>LOL WHY GAMES ARE DYING

fuck off
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>>341873046
He'd probably want female Link voiced by Ashley Burch. Mainly so he could trap her in the recording booth and rape her.
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>>341873225
Games aren't dying. Fuck off "gobblegate".
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>>341872767
>>341872985
But still a different body, it's the same Link but also a different one, so it makes less sense to make Samus a male but not for Link to come back as a girl.

Not saying i agree but really they'll find ways to run this into a circle forever. It doesnt matter what you tell them.
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>>341873064
YOU JUST TRIGGERED ME
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Remember when Samus was trans?
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>>341872943
Bait, but as a good person the sense of entitlement it takes to believe everyone's creative visions should bend to your personal feelings is still infuriating
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>>341872830
Different isnt a good enough excuse. And no it isnt, it's a horrible and stupid idea that makes no fucking sense outside of selfish gratification.
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>>341872830
I just hate the idea because genderswapping is lazy as fuck and comes across as "we need extra characters but can't be fucked to actually make any worth note.' If you wanna make a Zelda game where you play Zelda then that's cool, she has her own skill set and does her own thing, but don't just make a female Link, that's dumb trash.

Also what >>341872985 said, I don't get the impression most people wanting a female Link want it because they think it'd be neat they just want it because they feel like it has to happen for some reason.
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>>341872985
>It's not "progressive," it's entitlement, and it makes their reasoning seem so insincere.
and thats why its a bit maddening that Nintendo wont just come out and say "we wont make link female because we dont want to" and are coming up with terrible retarded lore reasons that make no god damned sense.

This issue could have been done with, but Zelda devs giving stupid explanations has given the other side a lot more fuel to use in this discussion.
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>>341873329
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>>341873178
How is it a strawman?
SJWs believe that we should end freedom of speech and expression. That there should be mandated censorship and quotas.
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>>341864703
God, you're so right.

Can the word gamer go back to describing people who, you know, PLAY VIDEO GAMES, instead of being associated with autism activists for people's rights to be socially retarded?
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>>341873143
But right now Kratos has no mohawk. That's why he's worse.
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>>341873419
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>>341873509
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>>341864703
>>341864576
Those fucks are such a minority, you're letting pictures on the internet skew your view of reality
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>>341873491
If that's all you want, yeah. I like the classic look as a whole more.
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>>341873491
But he has a beard, an objectively superior hairstyle
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I wouldn't care if the next Zelda had female Link or playable Zelda, but at the same time I hope Nintendo doesn't because it's entertaining watching these faggots get triggered over nothing.
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>>341873406
It isn't Nintendo's fault for playing nice and humoring people, anon. What seems to be lost on them is the scope of these people's crazy and how much of a fit they'll be willing to pitch over not getting something they decided they want. Still, that's not on Nintendo, either. It's probably mostly tranny activists making use of the soapbox social media has given them to throw temper tantrums in a way that people aren't allowed to complain about anymore.
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>>341873695
It's inferior unless it's a bear-mohawk.
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>>341860743
While arguing about Link being female or not is silly, Jim here said is true. Nintendo always makes up shitty reasons for things they do. "Ridley can't be playable in Smash because he flies and is vicious." Ignoring flying characters on the roster like Charizard and once of their most vicious characters, Ganondorf. They lie all the fucking time and no fan or journalist ever fucking calls them out on it. Never. Not fucking once. Hopefully some day they do so we can watch them squirm on the spot trying and failing to come up with decent answers.
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>>341873676
What a bunch of trifling jealous cunts
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>>341860743
You play as a girl?
Now I'm interested
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>>341873406
>>341873784
Nintendo is too polite to tell people "We said no multiple times already, fuck off", even if that's what they want to say and sort of have. They come up with stupid answers because they dont want to answer with something they consider rude.
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>>341873064
And if that's the reason they gave, OP's video wouldn't exist.
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>>341873938
You dont. Stay uninterested.
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>>341873910
this. don't give a shit bout zelda but Ninty has always given shit excuses.
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>>341873971
Stupid questions deserve stupid answers. A hard concept to grasp for some these days.
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>>341873910
It is a shit excuse, but I'm sure they'd love to just say "fuck off".
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>mfw Breath of the Wild is the talk of the town and will be a huge success and watershed moment for the franchise, and these people can't cope with the fact that they missed their chance to rub their stink all over it
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>>341862912
Linkle isn't Link. She's a retard who thinks she is and was meant as a joke. She is literally Zelda/s version of Dan.
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>>341873431
ok, but its like saying
>"anyone who supported the construction of the Hoover Dam hated capitalism because that shouldn't have been government's job to build"
Sort of true in the boradest of terms, but in the complicated and nuanced world we live in you cant boil things down to that simple of terms and expect to see the whole truth
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If women's rights are predicated that men and women are absolute equals then what difference does it make what gender a character is?
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>>341860743
all the entitled "I wan female link" shit reminds me of this
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>>341874142
I'd respect them more if they did. Making up actually stupid or false reasons just makes them look even more retarded than most people view them as already.
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>>341873910

>Failing to come up with decent answers

Here's one. No.
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>>341873971
>>341873910
Why dont people understand this? I get that sometimes what they do is frustrating.

Refusing to make a new F-Zero because they 'cant think of anything new to add' being one I've heard people say, dont know if it's true.

But at the end of the day they are one of the rare companies in gaming who act like god damn adults, the stupid reasons are like Anon says, a polite refusal instead of sperging out like some other companies and telling people to fuck off because they are super cool dudes.
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>>341870095
The whole "avatar of the player" philosophy has changed. You can't go and claim he is some
ambiguous character. Ever since Wind Waker or maybe even earlier, every Link has become
more of an individual character.

There's no point in getting mad over devs not listening to you, if you want to make games with
female protags just do that instead of making someone else to do the work. These people think
they'll be catered to, but they won't.
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>>341874170
But you can
Most SJWs literally reject our first amendment and say that "hate speech" should be illegal.
Very few constitutionalists are SJWs.
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>>341874275
>making jokes about video games

TRIGGERED. You're what's holding our society back! Let peace and love prevail and just kill yourself already.
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>>341874275
>that image
Undying Nephilim pls
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>>341860743
Why is nobody calling for new franchises with female MC's? Are they implying female characters are uninteresting unless they're male characters originally? Isn't that a bit sexist?

It's like that whole Thor fiasco. They have a pantheon of gods, demigods, and normal people who got tangled up in shit to choose from - let alone taking inspiration from any other of the multitude of faiths around the world - and the best they can come up with is taking an established male character and turning it into a female. Isn't that kind of pathetic?
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>>341871497
>No hype
>People were literally stampeding to the nintendo area on the last day to get a chance with the demo
Did people actually think there would be a girl link?
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>>341873910
Charizard isn't HUGE like Ridley. The Pokedex states Charizards are only 5' tall
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>people from America demand American culture changes to a Japanese video game
>Americans wrote a petition for Nintendo to put some singer who got shot in the game because she liked Zelda
Makes me sorta wish that they would just not release the game in America, like that latest DOA Volleyball game
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>all those tumblrinas losing their collective shit over Link being a male

Based Nintendo.
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>>341873625
>>341873180
>Zelda (holder of the tri force of wisdom) is courageous and seeks to do great things
>Link (holder of the tri force of courage) seeks wisdom about the outside world
HURR
I NEVER PLAY ZELDA
BUT ME WANT FEMALE LEAD
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>>341874349
Lying to peoples faces with blatant bullshit just makes them look stupid as hell. A genuine, truthful "we don't want to" would be a better answer. Why don't they do this? So the few fans who haven't given them the finger stay on, hoping some day they'll do that thing they never intend to do. I'm not praising Nintendo for being "mature assholes".
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>>341871747
New Link doesn't even look that girl. No more than usual. It is just the pony tail?
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>>341873910
>Ridley fags are STILL so butthurt that they had to become apologists for a fat retard like Jim Sterling
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Supreme bait. Nothing he said in the video was out of line and he even went as far as to say he could give a shit what Link's gender is.
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>>341874546
>tfw I could've easily made it to Nintendonyc to play the demo, but my work schedule wouldn't let me
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>>341874565
Bowser
Olimar
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>>341871747
>FUCK YOU NINTENDO
>Has amiibo in his name
What the fuck?
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>>341874678
TOO BIG
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Why does everyone want Zelda to be a Skyrim clone?
Every "addition" I see idiots suggest to make Zelda "better" all seems to revolve around making it more like Skyrim and less like Zelda.
Why don't they just fucking play Skyrim instead?
They do this with shooters too, why do normies want all game genres to be homogenized? Does it just make it easier and more comfortable for them if they don't have to learn new gameplay mechanics every time they buy a new game?

>oh it should have a massive open world with quests and RPG mechanics and you should get to choose your gender and blah blah blah

Just get a Link mod for Skyrim and play that instead you faggots.

I don't even like Zelda games but I understand that they're about two things, dungeons and gadgets, not open world exploration, not RPG mechanics, not leveling up.
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>>341874595
What about those two green points shut down the idea of a female Link or playable Zelda?

The triforce is not some real thing that Nintendo must adhere to. Not sure if you realize this.
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>>341874689
>he could give a shit what Link's gender is
He puts out so much he has plenty to spare
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>>341874154
of course it will be a huge success, but so will be their next zelda game, pic related
they can't go wrong, its like selling dirty drugs, stretched with shit to junkies
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>>341871497
>outspoken furry talking down to someone from a moral high ground

The times we live in. Good god. Just drop the bombs already.
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Why would the dev give in to the wants of an audience that doesn't actually purchase games?
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>>341874894
Is that a new pokemon
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>>341874754
Okay?
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>>341873398
I think that callout of Diaz is more that Diaz goes around pretending he's a champion of women because of his super not-sexist comic, and rails against people who make sexist comic. Except that his comic is literally "look at my mostly naked brown robot she's so empowering Ashly please call me back I miss you"
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>>341871747
>hurdur he's a furry so his point is immediately invalid :^)
He's right, Link could be a girl and it'd change nothing.
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>>341874854
>not open world exploration

Hi underage, did 9gag send you?
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>>341874631
How is it lying? When they talked about female link they mentioned that they felt redesigning the characters and their triforce aspects / personalities wouldnt mesh well. It's a fine reason to not want to change it, but the answer tied into it is, we dont want to change the characters that much, we like them the way they are and dont think the changes required would suite them.

People just see that as a stupid reason, I don't, but as I said, tied into that is, 'we dont want to' I'd rather a reason even if its feeble because at least they are trying to think of a way to explain why they dont want to do it that goes beyond, 'we dun wanan fuck off'
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>>341874754
>Bowser
Changes constantly size in games.
>Olimar
Who says Olimar is tiny or huge? He might just have visited a alternate earth that is way bigger than the real one?
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>>341875013
To be fair he did say he doesn't even like Zelda games.
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>>341871497
>most talked game of the WHOLE fucking e3

>hype is goind down because you dont have a imaginary vagina
oh these people
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>>341860743
What the fuck OP?
Just watched the video. The fat fuck just said that it would be fine if they made Link male because they just wanted to.

What he doesn't like is the hypocrisy. He litteraly said that he is absolutely fine with link being male forever.
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>>341875105
True. He does seem pretty wound up, though. Maybe he should relax and boot up some Skyrim.
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>>341873180
>>341873625
thats the proof, tumblr-art CAN ruin everything
its could be about Dragon Age 4 as well
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>>341874857
It's part of the canon you fag.
Link is constantly reincarnated with the triforce of courage. It influences him to be courageous and go against the odds
Zelda is constantly reincarnated with the triforce of wisdom. It influences her to be wise and rule over her kingdom kindly, while seeking to assist those who need her help
The evil force that became Ganon has held onto the triforce of power. The triforce of power makes someone lust for strength and rule over all.

Link and Zelda are constantly reincarnated. They are the same people and they hold the same values every time they come back.
That's the point. It's the story about the two of them facing endless trials to try and find happiness together, but never truly can.
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>>341868405
Well if you actually knew the lore you'd know why Link has to be a boy, Zelda a girl and Ganandorf a guy. There's actual justification.
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>>341875025
You're giving more weight to their statement than was provided.

The statement read pretty clearly that to aonuma, gender swapping ganon and zelda in respects to a female link isn't even an option. It was a shitty explanation on all counts.
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>>341872868
Yes. He literally (literally) made his redesign of Cyborg into Moss. Not even "influenced" or some nonsense, just literally Moss.
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>>341872517
well its better than the remake thats for sure
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>>341875195
Maybe I missed the point and if I did, I apologize.

Your post sounded like the canon prevents the characters from being different genders.
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I don't get it, what's so progressive with showing a topless girl and how exactly would a playable female link even enhance or change anything?
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I didn't even understand the video. What is the fat cunts problem, again?
>if he just said that Link is a guy because they wanted him so, its okay
So, okay? Who gives a shit what Aonuma told the press, obviously ultimately Link is a guy because they wanted him to be
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>>341869201
/thread
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>>341875305
It does
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Why is Link even called Link? Is it because he is the link between the player and the game?
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>>341875217
Barely. Link must always wield the triforce of courage, right? I'm just saying it's *plausible* that one of those reincarnations could be female. I don't know shit about Zelda lore though, so please correct me if that's not why.

But once again, it really should not matter if you enjoy playing video games.
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>>341875225
Just sounds like you don't like the explanation, that's no big deal, but I thought it was a good explanation.
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>>341874894
The series sells well, but not THAT well. Skyward Sword for one had a hard time catching anyone's attention. I seriously think Breath of the Wild will be an Ocarina of Time/Twilight Princess-tier success. The game is getting all kinds of free marketing from the buzz surrounding it, fan art, and people fawning over charming little details and mechanics in the game. This is how Splatoon started out and it ended up selling 4.27M without the Zelda name attached to it, Breath of the Wild's gonna be huge.
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>>341875013
Go play the older games asshat.
They're not open world.
You can't go wherever you want at any time, can you immediately leave the village in OoT? No. Can you immediately visit the tiny areas in Minish Cap? No.
Zelda has never been "go anywhere do anything", you unlock zones as you progress in the story and gain gadgets.
Really it's more like Legacy of Kain than any modern free roam RPG, you can't immediately waltz over to Ganon's fortress in Windwaker can you? You have to progress through the story and unlock the necessary gadgets.
In Daggerfall or Morrowind you can walk straight into the final boss area as a level 1 noob and get your ass kicked, you can't do that in Zelda.
I don't even like the games and I know that, take your ass back to school.
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>>341875305
It doesn't prevent the holder of the triforce of power from being different genders, since ganon and his predecessor are basically just pure evil and not an actual being, but it does for the wisdom and courage.
Because these two are actual people being reincarnated every single time, destined to meet each other and fall in love.
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>>341875386
That's what I always thought but no.

>On the origin of the name "Link", Miyamoto had this to say: "Link’s name comes from the fact that originally, the fragments of the Triforce were supposed to be electronic chips. The game was to be set in both the past and the future and as the main character would travel between both and be the link between them, they called him Link."
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>>341865259
>I skip games and still pretend I know everything about the lore
Skyward Sword is laughing at you.
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This is a tribute to Jean Giraud aka Mœbius.

Diaz drew it after his death.

Diaz wanted money for it.
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>>341875336
>what's so progressive with showing a topless girl
No one said anything about being progressive. Some just like girls more than boys and would like to see more girls where it makes sense. To a lot of people it made sense for Zelda but it's no biggie either way.
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>>341875439
5/10 made me mildly irritated but still had better judgment than to bother to finish reading
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>>341875420
If NX can nail a good price ($300 to $400), have decent power (At least Xbone), and an actual good gimmick this time (we know there will be one), then I could see it being a TP tier success.
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>>341875402
You're wrong and right. Link is always male stated by SS and you don't know anything about Zelda lore
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>>341875363
Nope, the triforce does not explicitly state which gender the tree are. You choose to interpret it that way.
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>>341875420
>people enjoyed Twilight Princess
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>>341875439
Go play Zelda 1
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>>341875475
Well I'm sorry, LoZ, reincarnation as a concept does not work that way.
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>>341875653
Ok boot up OoT then try to get into Goron mountain without unlocking any gadgets or progressing in the story at all, see where that gets you.

>>341875756
Zelda 1 is archaic and doesn't represent modern Zelda, the modern Zelda games are all built on the OoT model of progression and storytelling.
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>>341875579
Ugh, Jesus, really? That''s fucked up. Do you have anything he posted in relation to that? I'd love to see him rationalize it, realize people get mad, and then "apologize" and attempt to justify his behavior.

>>341875723
Skyward Sword explicitly stated that Link will ALWAYS be male? Because if so, what's the fucking problem? That seems pretty straightforward to me. Girl Link breaks canon, so no girl Link. What's the issue?
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>>341875735
The triforce doesn't state anything. Demise and Hylia did.
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>>341874576
Kind of crazy to think about right? Link has been male in every game he's been in, but for some reason it's a bad thing he's male in this one.
Although desu, botw has so many cute animations that a female Link would have been alright by me.
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>>341875840
But it does.
The goddesses are literally reincarnating Zelda and Link over and over again.
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I dont give a slight of a fuck about Zelda lore and skip every dialogue, but isn't Link some kind of reincarnated hero of fate or some shit?
Wouldn't that be dumb if the spirit suddenly decided to incarnate with tits for once?
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>>341875867
Well guess what.
They're taking it back to the Zelda 1 style.
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>>341860743
Did fat fuck jim actually said that having no fem link is terrible and aonuma should be ashamed for that reason?

I watched the whole vid, he just said that aonuma's excuse for it is bullshit. Instead of just saying "we want link to be male".
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>>341876017
Look up reincarnation as a concept. You're not bound by gender, or even species if you want to take it that far.

Zelda and Link come back as male and female respectively because Nintendo wants to do that. There's no logic beyond that.
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>>341875886
You know why.
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>>341864703
Go back to tumblr, nigger.
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>>341876126
He said the excuse was lame. Fat man was pretty clear this time if you ask me.
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>Diaz "re""""designes"""" superheroes
>it's shit
>people get mad
>Diaz draws this to shit mock his critics
Why are so many digital artists such babies?

>>341875886
>Ugh, Jesus, really? That''s fucked up. Do you have anything he posted in relation to that? I'd love to see him rationalize it, realize people get mad, and then "apologize" and attempt to justify his behavior.
Sadly no. Maybe /co/ does have screens.
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>>341872150
>barbarian chick that is topless for the whole game

I'd play the shit out of Goddess of War.
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>>341876038
Yes. Link knows pretty well that having boobs would just get in the way while fighting.

He has no good reason for being an inferior female. Being a cute boy is more than enough.
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>>341876150
Yeah, reincarnation as it is in "real life" (take that how you will) doesn't work that way.

But in LoZ, the deities that very literally exist in their world are specifically reincarnating two people.
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>>341876150
>Look up reincarnation as a concept
Reincarnation in Zelda does not follow Hindu concepts anon.
That's why the holder of the triforce of courage isn't a fucking dog in this game.
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>>341863576
>Instead of, you know, telling them "fuck off, it's our game".
Yeah and become another George Lucas?
Developers should recognize that they are slaves to the audience, as its the audience that holds more power than them.
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>>341876298
>>341876318
Okay let's stay grounded in LoZ lore then.

Where is it stated that the two must be boy and girl respectively?
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I'd be surprised if women comprise more than 0.001% of currently enlisted soldiers in a world.
They sure want to be represented as badass warrior heroes, but when it comes to real deal then fuck it, we're cute baby dolls and want to be housewives
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>>341875002
(((YOU)))
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>>341863572
There will be forever a male hero, a reincarnation of demise, and a princess from the royal blood,

Cease and desist
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>>341867809
It's not an edit, retard.
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>>341876443
Skyward Sword
Where they're being reincarnated as basically the same people so they can be together romantically.
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>>341870037
I dont get making game the way the creator envision is seen as something worth calling asshole.

This is the reason why game will never be art.
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>>341876338
Anyone who's purchasing decision rests solely on whether or not Link is female is not the target audience.
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>>341873625
He wants a female protagonist so bad yet continues to draw Zelda so androgynous.
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>>341876150
Which is fine, since its their product and story.
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>>341876443
In Skyward Sword, the first point in the timeline, you've got Zelda and Link, right? Zelda's a girl, Link's a boy. They do some heroic stuff, blah blah blah. You got it?

So the deities, who exist and are real in their universe, picked those two specific people and are reincarnating them throughout all of time. It's two specific people being brought back time and time again.
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>>341876701
So what you're saying is, it's not explicitly stated and that you're choosing to interpret that in such a way?
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>>341863572
>absolutely no reason there couldn't be.
How about the argument of preserving the artistic integrity of a character?
Iconic fiction character are iconic because on some level we think of them as real people, if you take that away and start shuffling genders (and its a slippery slope, once fem Link appears, people would want black Link, trasgender Link etc) this illusion goes to shit
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Because Nintendo franchises are all iconic and most young children to adults can recognize them, much like how literally everyone can tell you who Ronald McDonald is and what the golden arches represent.

Changing that image for the sake of a minority of idiots who rarely buy vidya isn't intelligent on any front, especially the business one.

So we rule out playing as Female Link because it's bad business and playing Breath of the Wild with it's current mechanics as Zelda would be the dumbest shit on the planet.
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>>341876443
Skyward sword but even if you ignore that, the game doesn't state that link and zelda can't be animals either, but they never are. ever.
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>>341876109
You really think the creative minds behind the new Zelda made an artistic decision, or are they only doing this because Skyrim got a 10/10 in Famitsu and EVERY major Japanese release since has been a half-assed open world mess? MGSV, FF15, Xenoblade X, now Zelda.
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>>341876876
Toon Link is the only version of the guy with character, friend. The rest is just a quiet dude in a tunic.

Can we stop pretending Link is this fleshed out character?
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>>341876907
Uh...
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>>341867209
This makes me so mad. I wish the entire comic book industry went up in flames.
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>>341877014
That's for a different reason and you know that Anon, please.
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>>341876907
Link was literally a dog in twilight princess.
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>>341861871
I think the idea is that gannon doesnt have a human gender. as in male and female doesnt apply to him he is just a monster. a monster, a man and a woman, works a lot better than a monster a woman and a woman
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Zelda and Link are not reincarnating.

Zeldas share the divine bloodline and Links share a heroic, unbreakable spirit (not soul). There's been multiple Zeldas at once and multiple Links at once. And WW Link explicitly has no connection to OoT Link whatsoever.
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>>341877089
I know, I know, I couldn't resist.
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>>341877006
Did you even play skyward sword?
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>>341863250
Aounuma has every right to say whatever he wants about why Link will always be male. He's asking for a specific answer that is already answered in the zelda lore, so his video is pointless.
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>>341867209
I'm pretty sure a lot of people just like women more than men.

You're just pushing a bullshit agenda while claiming that they are.
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>>341862819
G A M E R G A T E M E M E S
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>>341876854
More or less, yes. But at least we've got some degree of evidence for why they're always Link (man) and Zelda (woman) as opposed to just making broad assumptions based on BotW Link's androgyny.
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>>341877014
Now where is that BotW "concept art"?
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>>341860743
These are whiney spoiled brats that have always got their way, they are going to complain until Nintendo caves.
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>>341877138
>monster a woman and a woman
l-lewd
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>>341877206
Of course I didn't.
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What if you played as a female "link" that wasn't a re-incarnation
Kinda like how WW wasn't actually Link
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>>341865178
That's the best part. Plenty of those female fans would probably be less interested in a female link, because they play the games for the eyecandy.
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>>341870037
What mislead did I miss here? Wasn't the idea of Link being female made by a fan that misinterpreted some of the art?
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>People complain because a lazy dev re-hashed the same ending 3 times and just swapped the colour of the lights
Get called entitled
>People whinge for a male to suddenly become a female for no real reason other than "I want it"
No so much as a peep about entitlement
I fucking hate this industry so much
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>>341876959
They literally recreated the cliff from Zelda 1, and there's no companion character for the first time in a 3D Zelda game ever.
So I'm going to go for option number 1.
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>>341863056
Did you even watch the video anon? It's pretty clear that you didn't get what he said.
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>>341877341
WW was link though.
His name wasn't link but he was still his reincarnation.
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>>341877323
Well as terrible as the game was. That Link had a lot more character to him. You actually even see him talking.
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It's just misandry and ressentiment. It's not enough that there be good female characters, popular male characters must be replaced.

Social media was a mistake.
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>>341863056
>Link is always the hero of time
no, of course not. did you even played a zelda game that is not OOT or M'sM? Not every link is the hero of time.

He is, thought, the champion of "Farore", goddess of courage.
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>>341877409
That tweet is a few years old. Í think it's related to HW.
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>>341872943
Man. This place is fucking dead.
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>>341877503
I thought that the boatman told bigfish that he wasn't, or at least he wasn't sure about it or something?
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>>341868535
And fucking steampunk bullshit everywhere. I want coghat faggots to go home.
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>>341877503
>WW was link though.
>His name wasn't link but he was still his reincarnation.
Wrong.

Hiis name was Link, but he wasn't related to the Hero of Time. WW Link had to prove himself first.
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>>341877567
This.
Just make a shiek spin-off or something. Don't need to keep replacing males.
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>>341877503
not possible, OoT link went back in time thus leaving the adult timeline without a hero

the boatking says WW link has no connection to the hero of time
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>>341877503
Literally not his reincarnation, even though Ganon says it. TDubs Link is a self made negro, he gathers the ToC all by himself. it wasn't a divine prank, it was the adventure of a 12 yr old kid.
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>>341876267
>Why are so many digital artists such babies?
because they have an outlet for it

more people would do shit like this if their talents could create actual visual representation of a comeback

look at literally every comic related to some sort of issue, political or personal
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>>341877426
First was action platformers, then it was FPS, now open world has taken the spot of the half-assed clone that's the first recourse of lazy, corporate devs.
Shadow of Mordor, Mad Max, Ghost Recon Wildlands, Metal Gear Solid V, Final Fantasy XV, The Division, Horizon Zero Dawn, No Man's Sky, the list is endless and it keeps growing.
Half assed CoD clones have been replaced with half-assed Ubi collectathon clones.
I wouldn't be surprised if Zelda U had missions like "Find all 100 hidden Gorons" and "collect 20 iron shards to upgrade the master sword!"
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>>341872150
>Greek mythology
>Mohawk
SJWs are pretty special.
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>>341878128
And of course if it's Patreon then they backpaddle with a JK XD PLZ SUPPORT ME!
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>>341873406
THe problem is honestly not Nintendo's answer, it is actually a good answer IF you know the lore of the games.

But most of these retards doesn't and as such assumes it's just "Lazy".
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>Implying Japs will bow down to western SJWs
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>>341861206
>surges of water flow
what?
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>>341878821
Storm surges, I guess.
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>>341877341
I don't see why Linkle couldn't reassemble and/or earn the Triforce of Courage like WW Link did.
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>>341867209
>Bor summons his four stands.jpg
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>>341878821
it was the first question, he went final answer asap then realized his slip-up within a second but couldn't back out anymore
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>>341867809
Oh thank god, I knew there was no way that could be r
>>341867993
>>341868662
>>341868148
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>>341870545
Someone post that parody of his shitty original comic where he gets blown the fuck out.
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>>341879073
Because she's a shit and so are girls
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>>341879249
god, i would kill myself
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>>341879073
Because Zelda isn't a lesbian and then you're throwing the romantic journey theme out the window.
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>>341871497
>Dobson
>Relevant
Pick one.
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So wait is NES Link also not a reincarnation?
He wasn't born with the Triforce of Courage either.
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>>341860743
its not your game its nintendos. I know you cucks have difficulty understanding this distinction.
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>>341876854
Taking what little lore there is at face value is better than trying to inject fanfiction, so yeah.
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Why would anybody ironically or unironically watch some cucks videos and listen to their opinion on videogames?

The dude is literal trash.
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>>341879527
is that a rape whistle?
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If link COULD be a girl, feminists would complain that people can strip link of clothing (excluding a bra) and it would be eye-rape and even more sexist...
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Anybody got that box art for the game with a bunch of shit on it, ending in "And knuckles" and it has that "featuring dante" shit
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>>341873180
>want a game starring Zelda
>to do this, they ignore everything about her character and just make her a female Link

I'm in the camp of thinking a game with Zelda as a protagonist could be pretty cool, but this looks like garbage.
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>>341878787
They just need to get the fuck away from Western social media.
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>>341871626
>People seem to forget that while Link a bit of a player insert...

Link is self incert and females play these games. There's really no reason for him not to have a female counterpart.
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>>341879726
WHY DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT FEMINISTS HAVE TO SAY
god, the only reason i wish to be popular and famous is to tell them to fuck off and make good shit while ignoring them completely
imagine that, making actually good games, with actually good characters that actually look good in good clothing and not burkas, i would make fucking millions and further the sjw ignoring hate train of not giving a fuck into other industries
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>>341871803
>Forty retards are paying this useless fuck $104 a week for regurgitating shitty opinions on twitter while pretending to be an artist of any merit whatsoever.
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>People try to raise a shitstorm over Link not being female
>Treehouse demo shows Link running around shirtless
>Number of people complaining plummets to a handful of nu-males
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>>341879941
>females play these games
Yes and said females have no problems self inserting into Link as he already is. There's no reason to have a female counterpart.
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>>341879815
This. A game featuring Zelda as the MC should focus on magic and shit, maybe Sheikah-style stealth and assassination, not just be FemLink: The game.
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>>341880171
>$104
Should have kept drawing porn.
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>>341863056
>make another WW ala have Linkle put into the Hero of time's clothes because it looks cool
>someone close to her gets kidnspped
>she goes out to GET the triforce of courage
>in her journey she comes across the owner of the triforce of Wisdom
>tells her to stop and go home
>she refuses, asks for help, is denied and attempts to go by herself to save her importanat person
>she can't, person dies
>goes and fights the owner of the triforce of Wisdom
>kills the owner and gets it
>goes and fights again, kills the owner and gets all three parts
>becomes god
>brings back important person to life
there i just made a new zelda game with female link, well not really
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>>341880171
That's 104 a month, pal.
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>>341880179
not to mention soaked panties and audrey literally bowing to a statue of Link
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>>341861871
Ganondorf's a herm.
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>>341876267
I dont get what he would be trying to prove with that. Its not that far from what he does in his comics. Is he that deluded?
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>>341873180
>Diaz writes an entire design document on this crap
>Morby shits on everything he does with a handful of sketches
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>>341873625
>>341873180
I don't understand why these people want Zelda to be reduced to a purple Link instead of building on her own character.

Even fucking Koei, the company responsible for DOAX, made her a well respected and competent military leader without turning her into a not-Link.
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>>341879410
>romantic journey theme

Since when has there ever been a romantic journey theme?
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>>341880610
Yes. yes he is.
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>>341860743
What a disgusting fat slob. I don't even need to hear his opinion to know that I already don't care about anything he could possibly say.
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>mfw they make Link a female
>mfw gamergirls complain that she's either wearing a kilt/dress, or that the pants are too tight
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>>341873180
>BAWWWWWW WHY CAN'T WE PLAY AS A FEMALE
>Linkle is announced for HW
>BAWWWWWWWWW
>THEY
>ARE
>STEALING
>MYYYYYYYY
>IDEA
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>>341860743
fuck off jim
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>>341880714
>I don't understand why these people want Zelda to be reduced to a purple Link instead of building on her own character.

They have no imagination.
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>>341880743
>Wanting to turn Superman into Martian Manhunter
Literally why? Just write a Martian Manhunter story then, retard.
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I dont understand this thinking that if you change a white character to black, or a male character to female, that that somehow achieves diversity, progressiveness, or inclusion

Wouldn't it just be better to make entirely new characters that meet whatever race or sex criteria you want met, and then push and give them the kind of top billing exposure which the previous generation of white male characters received?

Like why does it have to be giving Link a pussy or making Spider Man a black guy for these people to be happy
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>>341873676
And this is why feminism can never decide if it should be sex-positive or not.
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If they'd take all their ideas they insert into a franchise and make something of their own without WITHOUT being related to that franchise, then they might have something worth reading/watching/playing.

Of course they don't. They to not have the ability to get beyond all that.

>>341881205
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>>341876640
He's definitely just a fetishist.
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>>341867809
It's progressive to support Palestine, potentially even to the point of anti-semitism.
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>>341866085
wait demise started cycle.
But there's nothing there about the triforce fragmenting. It remains whole
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Watched the video
All he said was "I'm fine if Nintendo wants Link to be male but their reasoning is stupid"
Which it was.
Why does this have 450 posts?
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how dare they give link a binary gender
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>>341879410
That's barely ever been a theme, a shitty one too
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>>341879941
Nope
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>>341867809
>But that's an edit
anon, there comes a time when a young man must discover certain harsh truths about the world.
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>>341881832
Because it's not. Making the hero not be the hero is retarded
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>>341877271
>implying link hasnt had other androgynous appearances
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>>341881668
This, Triforce doesn't have it's actual first split until Ocarina of Time when Ganondorf invaded the Sacred Realm, and that's only for the Child/Adult Timelines. It's quickly put back together over the Hero of Time's defeat in the Failure Timeline. To which it doesn't split again until somewhere between ALBW and LoZ.
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>>341875420
>TP GC1.32
this is fucking depressing
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>>341860743
stop giving this cunt views.
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>>341881832
Their reasoning was fine. What the fuck would Link do if Zelda was the hero? It's not like he can just straight up be captured, he is the hero, that's set in fucking stone thanks to Skyward Sword. He's not just gonna get captured and sit there like Zelda.
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These tumblrites are ironically incredibly racist and sexist because their entire "activism" is essentially tokenism.

The entire reason they want link to be a girl is they want to be able to point and say "GIRL GIRL LOOK A GIRL! SO PROGRESSIVE!" Because link doesn't have a personality. He doesn't even speak beyond sex grunts and screaming. You could literally let people choose link's gender on start up and basically nothing would change; You'd still be rescuing zelda while wearing a dress and tights. You'd still be a mute idiot fighting a giant pig man. Nothing would be improved or changed by making the model have tits.

So why do it? Why change a 25 (?) year old franchise character when the change does literally nothing to the character and the game?

It's like that one Critical Miss comic where the guy says "if race doesn't matter, why not make the character black?" Well, if race doesn't matter why make him black? Make him purple. Give him fucking plaid skin and a koosh ball for genitals, who gives a shit.
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>>341883047
remove link from the equation
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>>341882887
Thanks famkiri
The cycle may preserve their spirits and make them more inclined toward the triforce but that doesnt stop someone else from demonstrating that they can obtain it. Curse is at the very end of thegame if that.
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>>341883110
>Link doesn't have personality
Stopped reading at this shit meme again
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>All these nerds who didn't play SS
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>341860743
>"Im not gonna criticize people for making a creative decision about the nature of the game"
>criticizes something about the creative nature of a game in the first minute
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>>341883217
Remove yourself
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>>341883110
That's exactly why they it. Hell they fucking took a joke from 30 years over Samus being a newhalf and took it seriously and no amount of reasoning would sway them.

Even if you pointed out that by making Samus a newhalf now you're completely undermining the first major female in video games that people absolutely adore.

There is no arguing with radical extremists, it's either their personal beliefs or nothing. It's the equivalency of Nazis, ISIS, KKK, whatever stupidity you want to get at and they're so blind to the truth that it's ridiculous.
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>>341883217
Then it's just Tetra's Trackers or Tingle's Rupees, it's nothing more than a spin-off and not a main-line Zelda title.
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>>341883276
Fuck off, Legoman. You're just as bad as Diaz.
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>>341883276
sauce please
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>>341883276

I really, really wish Legoman would learn to draw different faces. I mean, it's nice that he expanded his repertoire of facial expressions from one to three, but it's still all just the same face making them.
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>>341883276
>legoman
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>>341883327
It's more they're "disappointed" that they "set it up" to have the choice to have a female playable character.

They don't even know if Zelda is playable or not.
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>>341883271
Please enlighten me as to Link's in depth personality.
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>>341865020
Are you guys literally that retarded? Kratos has a shit ton of lore to him, some of the games literally open up with him fucking 20 hoes, this game never had even a remotely small female fanbase, that's why no one would want or cares for kratos being female.

His based off a demi god from 4000 years ago, a culture in which women being in power isn't a thing at all what so ever.
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>>341874678
>he's agreeing with a certain quote therefore he's defending Jimshit the fatfuck
what don't you get here?

it's like agreeing with Sakamoto that Zero Suit shouldn't be more prominent than the Power Suit in Metroid despite all the shit he done in Other M.
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>>341879073
Because women are shit
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>>341883798
Please play the games first
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>>341880179
What a world we live in.
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>>341879073
because she has no motivation for a "Hero's Journey" adventure
she needs motivation, we need Yoko Taro to write a LoZ game
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>le fat degenerate nu-male youtube personality with shitty opinions

Just posting this should be a bannable offence.
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>>341880398
>Woman fucking everything up
Seems pretty legit man
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>>341881262

They don't want more non-white and female characters.
They want fewer white and male characters.
The former is just their method of achieving the latter.
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>>341883798
Not him but every 3D Link since WW has started to get a personality.

WW Link in the first 20 minutes shows anger/aggression at the Helmaroc King for taking Aryll, and then immediately after shows concern for his Grandma and having to leave her there by herself, among a variety of other instances.

TP Link has an entire cutscene over the fact that if he keeps messing with the Fused Shadows that he'll fall to evil too and even strike down close friends such as Ilia, it even shows his reactions to a variety of things, such as him starring at Telma's tits. TP Link also has the Hero of Time being so bitter he left behind a ghost just to pass on his skills and to be remembered.

SS Link is pretty damn expressive too, you see clear anger/rage at the Old Temple of Time when he gets blocked by Girahim and then immediately goes after him. You see clear sadness and distraught when Zelda seals herself away at the Sealed Grounds.

Just because it doesn't flat out say it in a cutscene, doesn't mean Links haven't started getting a personality through facial expressions and dialogue expositions.
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>>341873313
Link is the reincarnation of the male hero hylia chose to fight demise. She loved him so when he died from battle she made it so he would always be reborn. She then herself became mortal and made it so she would also be reborn, because gods can't use the triforce. So canonically link was the first to have his sex and role set in stone. He will always be the male hero. Zelda will always be blood related to the goddess. Thousands of years later during skyward sword, their reincarnations came together to fight demise again. He then made it so his hatred will always be reborn, made to conquer and kill. Always forced to battle the hero and the goddess. This is why NONE of them can be a different sex or gender or role. It always has to be like this. This is the lore. Tumblr doesn't have to like it, but its the reason why they can't jerk off over girl link or jerk off over hero Zelda
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>>341860743
>Why are these nasty people trying to ruin our games?
Did you even watch the video you whiney fag? And would adding a female character "ruin videogames"? Are you retarded?
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>>341884986
When you take an established series of 30 years, change a very clear cut lore point, just so you can say "Hey look inclusiveness", then yes, that is ruining games.

It's the same as making Zelda male, it can't happen in any way, her gender is set in stone.
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>>341876338

No fuck off.

Game Developers make games they are not slaves to the audience what so ever.

Prime Example why Game Developers should not listen to the audience. Blizzard and WOW.
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>>341874754
>>341874565
>>341874960
pic related

>>341875048
>Who says Olimar is tiny or huge? He might just have visited a alternate earth that is way bigger than the real one?
so you're just making guesses? you can just say you have zero idea about Olimar, anon. he's always been a small guy which even Sakurai reminded out in pic related.

Sakurai is completely right about how everything don't have to stay exact in a spinoff about figurines. thought this is no reason why he had to remove Wario's Shoulder Bash, hold back Ridley, or not bothering to even let Ganondorf do other thing he did in his games outside just being how strong he is through fists.
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>>341881668
>>341882887
Yes, Triforc was first split in Ocarina of time, but the reincarnation cycle started with Demise, but you also got to remember that Ganondorf was sealed into the Sacred Realm with the Triforce of Power.

Also, it's safe to say that the reincarnation of the Goddess and the hero are the ones that seem to always represent the Triforce of Wisdom and Courage.

Honestly, I think they need to break the cycle before others can wield certain parts of the triforce usually.

But the Triforce can of course be put together and used by anyone, technically at least, as long as they got equal amounts of power, wisdom and courage.
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>>341860743
>people getting this defensive over the continuity of fucking Zelda
Yeah, totally not because generic /v/ posters will always blindly oppose "da evil sjws"
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>>341883276
>le Groose cucked Link lmaoooo
you're no better either, Legoman
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>>341864178
trying to weigh who's worse, him or movieblob
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>>341884986

I'm glad Jim Slim is so fucking intelligent like a dumb fish out of water that he doesn't explore any more than MAKE MY LINK A GIRL even though I don't fucking care and make a 10 minute video out it.

What a dumb fuck he does care and wants to ruin everything the game stands for.

Too bad he doesn't acknowledge that the game's name came from Scott's Fritzgeralds wife, which is why it's name that way and Miyamoto will never change it period.
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>>341881549
this.
also SJWs are VEHEMENTLY against Judeo-Christian religions.
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>>341884493
In TP i remember he shows remorse when Ilia starts bitching at him becuase he's hurting Epona, and also those kids in the town where you get the bombs
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>>341885474

Imagine if Jim Slim and Moviebob have a baby...

OMFG!!! I can't imagine it.
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>>341885271
>just so you can say "Hey look inclusiveness"
No, it's called giving the fans what they want. Honestly, who gives a shit about lore in Zelda? It's Nintendo's series, they can just make up any reason to include a female option.
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>>341885402
Not possible. Ganondorf acquires the entire Triforce leading into ALttP which he uses to convert the Sacred Realm into the Dark World.

Link also acquires the Triforce of Wisdom that shattered upon Zelda I's slumber during LoZ. And while not a main-line title and it's more of an alternate universe/timeline completely separated, Cia possesses the Triforce of Power too and willingly takes it from Ganondorf.

The Lorule Ganondorf equivalent also takes the full Triforce as well if I recall in order to fix Lorule's Triforce, granted he seemingly absorbed Ganon.

Ganondorf also takes the Triforce of Courage/Wisdom from Zelda/Link in WW, and Daphnes is the one that ends up using it instead.

Triforce initially broke due to Ganondorf valuing Power of Courage/Wisdom, but after that it can be forcefully taken.
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>>341860743
Here's the reason Link won't be female.

"Link" exists as pretty stable character, and he's similar enough every time that he is practically a brand. He is recognizable and iconic even if he exists in slightly different variations.

Being changed to a female is not a "minor variance", it would totally trash his iconic recognition and could confuse new audiences about the content of the games, something someone marketing it wouldn't do: Deliberately sabotage the recognition of their IP.

Yet these retard fucks NEED to have Link be a girl, for no reason other than to satisfy a diversity quota (For the women) or alleviate homosexual feelings (For the men).

Just making Zelda the protagonist of her own game would be far, FAR better for everyone involved, but the feminists don't want that. And the reason is that this isn't just about having more female characters in games, they actively want to take something that already exists and warp it into their own image.
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>>341884986
I did and Jim is fucking retarded. He doesn't do ANY fucking research on the lore and goes "HURR DURR WHY IS NINTENDO SO STUPID AND NOT JUST SAY THEY WANT A GUY LINK???" even though Nintendo's answer is fucking legible to anyone that knows the fucking lore. He's a stupid, fat faggot.
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>>341885640
He does, he also looks at Ilia's father after they get chewed out and worry over them not being able to make the sword delivery deadline without Epona.

You could potentially argue for virtually every game for WW up, pretty sure PH/ST have some personality too, hell even OoT/MM Link does at some points, though it's incredibly limited.
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>>341862990
>I've yet to hear a good concept that could drive the game.
One interesting way would be a bait and switch like in Metroid. At a turning point in the game's plot it's revealed that another character is Link and the player character is actually Zelda. Although, there's already a couple problems that I can think of. One is the that damsel-in-distress plot element is a central theme to the series. I think it would be lazy just to switch Link and Zelda's positions but in that case who would fill the position instead? The other issue is one of lore. Link being the bearer of the Triforce of Courage makes him the perfect player-character for an action game. In that reasoning, a game with Zelda, who bears the Triforce of Wisdom, as the player character would have to play very differently from a standard Zelda game. (Perhaps an extremely cryptic, puzzle based Zelda game along the lines of La-Mulana? In my dreams, maybe.)
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>>341885881
>HURR DURR WHY IS NINTENDO SO STUPID AND NOT JUST SAY THEY WANT A GUY LINK
He was completely right, their reasoning was total shit. It would be incredibly easy to make up a reason to include a female option, saying that it would contradict the lore is a shitty reason. If they didn't elaborate no one would have a problem
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>>341885365
don't bother Sakuraiautists are gonna find a way to keep crying 2big on Ridley and how Sakurai isn't infallible like God.

especially when in a certain P:M thread, they couldn't defend the reasons why Dixie wasn't included Smash 4 despite TF being around and K.Rool getting spare representation in-game.
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>>341885842
And they aren't entitled to just give something some people want. That's a shot excuse, lots of people want to alter or add shit for thei own selfish reasons doesn't mean it has any merit. And it is their series, if they say there isnt a good reason in their eyes there isn't.
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>>341885842
While true, the majority of fans do not want a female Zelda, they'd rather play as Zelda/Sheik themselves.

Hell most of Zelda's girl fans are having a ball with being able to have Link in his boxer's for BotW.

Also by that logic I guess we better give the 'fans' what they want with Metroid too huh? I guess Samus is now a newhalf and has been since 3 years old. Besides if we're also gonna get into "who gives a fuck about the lore", then might as well add guns and cars to Zelda, I mean fuck it right, lets just make it Grand Theft Auto, because that's what people want right?

You're fucking stupid.
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>>341873910

Because they like to be the friendly happy positive rainbow company for some reason. They're terrified of even slightly upsetting just one of their fans, let alone a arge portion.

I think it's part to do with Japanese customs, can you imagine someone like Miyamoto or Anouma getting bitchy and just being like "It'll never happen, stop asking. He's staying male and thats that."

Also they're probably terrified that such a blunt answer would hurt them PR wise. Sure it's a bit stupid and incredibly beta, but it's just the way Nintendo has always been and I think most of their fans are fully aware of that. When Anouma gave the answer he did, all Nintendo fans knew that as usual you have to read between the lines of what he said to translate it as meaning "No, it's too confusing and not worth doing. We don't want to do it and aren't going to."

Also, alot of you seem to be ignoring the fact that if Nintendo DID bluntly answer with "No, fuck off." They'd then have to deal with a loud and annoying fucking uproar from the SJW community about how NINTENDO IS OPPRESSING US! THEY'RE SEXIST PIGS BOYCOTT THEIR GAMES NOW EVERYONE!

Again, why would they risk that when it's much easier and safer to reply to it with, "Oh, it wouldn't make sense my friend. I mean, what would Link do? And what about the triforce balance? We can't do it you see. :-) :-)"
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>>341886239
Who the fuck cares about the reason? The question in the first place is fucking pointless and pointless.
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>>341886239
It's not a shitty reason, it's just one you don't like
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>>341886239
Except it wasn't shit you fucking retard, read up on the lore. It's not Nintendo's fucking fault that so called "Fans" that shriek and whine about this shit does not know the lore.

Explain to me why "Not wanting to contradict the lore" is a shitty reason.
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>>341886239
Being a jar of mayonnaise also contradicts the lore, but who cares right, it's a shitty reason.

LINK SHOULD BE A JAR OF MAYONNAISE!
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>>341869023
>next Metroid
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I still think Nintendo should go for a Zelda game where Link is "cursed" by being transformed into a girl, and you alternate between the two genders to complete challenges
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>>341887005
Die
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>>341887005
>Have to seduce guard
>Grow some titties
I'd buy it
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>>341886993
next time, actually buy Zero Mission.
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>there are girls already liking shirtless Link

And people call guys sexist
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