https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqv34KlLs9o
Why are these nasty people trying to ruin our games?
Why?
They know why there can be no male Link, but they refuse to acknowledge any reasoning.
They're not gonna stop til they get their way, are they?
Here's hoping this huge phase/meme of femenism has died down before the next zelda comes around to be developed.
>>341860743
>They know why there can be no male Link
>>341861206
It's been explained to them quite a bit, they just disregard it or try and come up with some fucked up alteration to the lore in which link all of a sudden wakes up a female.
Why can't they just be like "Ah really? shit, well that's just too bad I guess. Let's go try make Kratos in GoW a girl instead."
>>341861389
Read the sentence again, very carefully.
>>341860743
to be fair the whole "balance of the triforce" explanation made no sense whatsoever
>>341861871
It's flimsy at best but satisfies my preference of keeping Link male in future titles because I feel pointless, stupid change just for the sake of change is stupid.
>>341862158
I thought the "why swap link when we could just use zelda" statement was much more reasonable, it's what smart people have been saying ever since this whole femlink meme started
...though the explanation for not doing that was kinda bad again
>>341862158
>>341861871
the only way that retarded argument would make any sense would be if there were 3 genders
>jimquisition link
stop promoting your shitty youtube channel
Why do people insist on linking to this fedora lord?
>Nintendo thinks that a playable girl would have to be Zelda
Why not just use Linkle?
Speaking of which, why the fuck does Linkle even exist? I was 99% certain they were setting up gender choices for the next Zelda game when they added that retarded character to Hyrule Warriors
>>341862768
There's a male hero who's bound to "save" the princess. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
>>341862605
I certainly agree with having a Zelda driven game first, though I've yet to hear a good concept that could drive the game.
>>341862912
>why the fuck does Linkle even exist?
Koei Tecmo
>>341861871
>>341862605
It was a watered down explanation, but I get where anouma is coming from.
This is what I posted on that video to try and explain why Anouma is right in what he says. It got completely ignored ofcourse because they cant argue with it unless they resort to, "but I wannaaaaaaaaa!!!!"
Pic related, couldnt paste the comment cause too long.
>>341862789
>>341862819
Cause he's a fucking faggot who seems to be getting attention for some god awful reason.
>>341860743
I seriously don't even know how this whole bullshit began.
>someone spins a rumor out of his ass
>people buy into it and get unrealistic expectations
>nintendo is actually responding to these people
>>341860743
He doesn't have a problem with a male Link. The problem is Aounuma's dumb excuse for it.
If Aonuma had just said nothing or something like "Link has always been male" it would have been fine.
>>341862768
The only way a playable Zelda instead of Link that would make sense is switching the triforce of courage with the triforce of wisdom. And why should that happen?
Link is the hero of the story because he is the embodiment of courage and adventurism. So the question is kinda relevant: If Zelda is the protagonist, what the fuck would Link do?
>>341862605
They don't get that a female link trying to save a Prince Zelda would render Zelda thoroughly unlikable to most people.
Especially that shitty Game Concept Document that makes a male Zelda/Prince Link look profoundly effeminate and spoilt.
I don't buy that they cant relate to Male Link/Female Zelda because of their genders. Both of them have barely any personality anyway, there's nothing THERE to relate to, so why woud anyone give a shit? They're shitty characters, literally nothing but husks. The only reason they're so desperate to get Link's gender swapped is as an exercise of of the power of their social influence, nothing more.
>>341862990
You're talking about destiny, not the balance of the triforce. And Ganon has a piece of the triforce too
As it stands right now, the gender "balance" is lopsided 2 to 1, the only thing making Link a girl would do is flop that imbalance to the other side.
I don't care either way, but that balance shit Aonuma tried to pull made no goddamn sense whatsoever. He should have just told the truth and said he didn't want a girl Link instead of trying to soften the blow for crybaby SJWs
Both sides of the argument are dumb as fuck. There doesn't -need- to be a female Link but there's also absolutely no reason there couldn't be.
>>341863081
Because Nintendo's vocal online community has become a den of degeneracy and depravity, but Nintendo still wants their money so they're playing their game in favor of garnering some good PR. Instead of, you know, telling them "fuck off, it's our game".
>>341863268
Why does the triforce of Courage need to be held by a guy? Or Wisdom by a girl?
These are just bullshit arbitrary made up rules that aren't mentioned anywhere in Zelda lore.
I don't care that there's no girl player, but I wish Nintendo and its drones would just own up to their decision instead of pulling these retarded mental gymnastics
>>341863768
The triforce of courage is always passed on to the incarnation of goddess Hylia, which is always Zelda.
The triforce of courage is passed on to the descendent of the great hero of time, who always replicates the previous ones.
That's why.
>>341861871
BECAUSE THE REQUEST MAKES NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER
THE CREATORS CREATED LINK, THEY CREATED HIM MALE, THEY WANT HIM MALE, THEY HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT TO CHOOSE, THEY WERE EVEN TOO KIND TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION, IF IT WAS ME I WOULD SAY "BECAUSE I FUCKING WANT HIM MALE, SUE ME NIGGER"
>>341863056
That whole autistic rant does not bother to explain why an incarnation of Link can't be female. It doesn't really matter if the previous hero of time was male.
Also, Zelda can easily swap Triforces with link because magic motherfuckers.
So the whole thing is kinda fucking dumb.
>>341861389
>you will never suddenly wake up as a female
>>341860743
The excuses by Nintendo have been really bad.
I just dont think the audience wants to hear the real truth which is "We want Link to be a boy and we have commissioned tons of toys and merchandise featuring a boy"
It's Jim Sterling, the guy's entire "career" is based off of being as contrarian and stupid as possible for the clicks.
How this guy still has an audience is beyond me. Gamers must be really fucking dumb.
>>341864137
>>341863572
>>341864080
there doesn't need to be. The developers already stated their reasons, there's no justification needed to keep link male.
Sake for the sake of change is a fallacy.
>jimquisition
How did this guy get an audience to listen to his babel?
>Fat
>Greasy
>black and red aesthetic
>fedora/trenchcoat/gloves worn """ironically"""
Who gave this fucker the time of day?
>>341864137
Not with that attitude.
>>341860743
He seemed pretty reasonable about the whole "Link isn't female" thing, only mad at the limp-wristed reasons given for it instead of just saying "we don't want Link to be female, he's always male"Maybe all that extra fat he's gotten has made him a much more jolly fellow
>>341863268
>The only way a playable Zelda instead of Link that would make sense is switching the triforce of courage with the triforce of wisdom.
...Why? Triforce of Wisdom doesn't make her incapable of going out and doing stuff. See: OoT Sheik, Tetra, ST Zelda. If anything her approach would just be more strategic instead of head on combat.
Of course Link is the chosen hero of the goddess (=Zelda) so making him a damsel or having Zelda "one-up" him would make no sense whatsoever. But a playable Zelda could easily work if they made a game take place during a time/place where there's no Link around to save the day.
>>341863768
>Why does the triforce of Courage need to be held by a guy? Or Wisdom by a girl?
Because the holder of the Triforce of courage happens to be Link and the holder of the triforce of wisdom happes to be Zelda. It's not that hard to grasp.
It's either stick to it or reboot the shit out of everything established just to please some self-entitled faggots.
>>341864080
lmao you just want to masturbate to femlink
>>341864336
Probably fat, greasy people who wear fedoras and trenchcoats in balck and red too, aka the majority of people who play video games.
>>341860743
It's the same thing as the black Bond meme.
These parasites can't create, they can only complain. It's better to ignore them, but instead you've potentially given that fat fuck ad revenue x19.
>>341864576
This. The term “gamer” usually conjures up a torrent of awful connotations: an exclusively white-male circle jerk where the only manifestation of “diversity” is between the Cheetos-stained 4chan nerds with a sunlight problem and fedora-wearing MRM creeps who fancy themselves activists. You can catch all of them gushing over first-person shooters and probably trading furry porn at a LAN party, a place where anybody else wouldn’t be caught dead.
>>341862158
>It's flimsy at best but satisfies my preference
Yes, that's it, really. There's no real argument to be made. It all comes down to this.
>>341861389
Good, after that shit demo GoW is dead to me.
>>341864706
Same argument on the femlink side
>>341862912
Koei wanted more waifus
>>341864080
You're literally saying "fuck the lore, lets just change shit up cause magic lol"
In that case, why bother with lore? Why not leave it a blank, genderless character running around killing other blank, genderless characters and going through dungeons to gather pieces of the magic triangle to save the GENDERLESS offspring of the GENDERLESS LEADER of Hyrule from the big bad monster guy WHO IS NOT A GUY AND IS GENDERLESS.
Also it does matter if the previous hero of time was male because the hero of time is always reborn as the same character. The hero of time IS male.
>>341864706
I'm not ashamed - I have no problem with female led games at all but when it comes to a Zelda title there's staples I just want to see, one of them being Link being male.
Change for the sake of change is just stupid.
>>341861389
>Let's go try make Kratos in GoW a girl instead.
For some reason it never bothered me too much with all this "WE WANT A FEMALE LINK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" shit, but now where you mentioned the same thing with other franchises I realized how fucking stupid this is. Why is this a thing only with the Zelda franchise? Its pretty much only Zelda where people insist on a female verison for no real reason of the maincharacter who ALWAYS was male.
>>341860743
>fags not wanting to play a fit Fem elf
Fags
>>341865020
The baffling part of it is how female dominated the Zelda fanbase is who constantly schlick themselves to Link.
>>341863994
No, that's just how shit turned out when Ganondorf's big meaty Gerudo hands accidentally broke the fuck out of the Triforce in OoT. The Triforce pieces attuned with the people who best encapsulated their properties.
The fact that they end up with the "same" people is either coincidental, or the result of a Triforce piece being directly handed down via bloodline, like in TP, or maybe even both.
Why is there no female Mario?
Why is nobody asking for a female Mario?
What's the difference?
>>341864448
>But a playable Zelda could easily work if they made a game take place during a time/place where there's no Link around to save the day.
We all know any such game would be slammed the fuck out of for being pointless and pandering and not to mention would almost definitely be really, really shit.
They could by all means make a segment in a future game where Link is somehow incapacitated for some time and Zelda becomes the protagonist who must complete some tasks to save Link, that'd be completely fine. She just couldn't be the actual hero who finishes the game.
>>341861871
The problem here is not the explanation, but rather Jim's and every other retard that hasn't taken time to read up on the lore and understand it. Skyward Sword, which is the first Zelda in the timeline, ends with Demise more or less starting the cycle, with him, Link and Zelda .
Of course, they might go "UUGH REINCARNATION ISN'T GENDERED". You know, except maybe it is, or maybe the fucking souls themselves have a say in it. And let's not forget that Ganondorf in OoT was born a male in a tribe that almost only gives birth to females. WE gonna fucking pretend it's just a coincidence that Ganondorf is born male in a tribe that only has ONE fucking male born once a century?
That's the gist of it, this >>341863056
anmon explains it much better than me.
>>341865259
Someone didn't play Skyward Sword.
>>341865020
>Why is this a thing only with the Zelda franchise?
Because Zelda is a series in which the main character being the same spirit existing over multiple different reincarnations is explicitly canon.
>>341860743
>Vanquish was shit
stopped right there
>>341864440
>>341864296
>>341864168
Miyamoto literally said this two days ago.
He stated that all mainline Zelda titles will have a male protagonist, Link, but they're considering using Sheik or Zelda (same character, I know) as the protag of a spin-off title. And this is because Link is an established character.
>>341865475
I DID play Skyward Sword, which is why I can definitively say you're wrong.
A huge part of that game's later plot is Link going through trials to balance out his virtues of Power, Wisdom, and Courage so he can physically obtain the Triforce as a whole.
Ganon was wildly imbalanced in the favor of power, so it broke when he tried to touch it. There's nothing "predestined" about it.
>>341865259
You didn't play Skyward sword, did you?
>>341865787
>There's nothing "predestined" about it.
For someone who claimed to play SS, swing and a fucking miss.
>>341865928
The curse of Demise is entirely coincidental to how the Triforce splits up. It's a physical object with specific rules.
>>341865787
You mean beside the fucking fact that Demise started the whole fucking cycle with Link, Zelda and Ganondorf/Demise?
God what an annoying cunt.
>>341866068
Whatever you say, anon.
>>341861871
To be fair any reason or just a summit le no should be good.
Link is an ov r 20 year old character, Nintendo doesn't need to give a reason for why they don't want to change his sex.
>I WANT A GAME WHERE I CAN PLAY AS PEACH
>Nintendo makes Super Princess Peach
>Nobody plays it
>I WANT A GAME WHERE I CAN PLAY AS A FEMALE LINK
>Nintendo makes Linkle
>Nobody plays it
I just want Super Princess Peach: Zelda Edition. Hell, I'd pay for DLC for Breath of the Wild if we could do the same, or a similar, adventure as Zelda, using her magic and clothes tailored for her.
>>341866150
The point is that the Triforce doesn't attune to Link and Zelda just because they're the Hero and the Goddess, it attunes to them because they most embody courage and wisdom respectively. Those things are only tangentially related.
You disgusting lard-asses always seem to find some other disgusting lard-ass e-celeb like yourselves to pay attention to. It's pathetic. You had Boogie and you have this guy.
How can you even pay attention to someone that grotesquely obese for more than .05 seconds? If you have an IQ over 100 you should already be so suspicious of anything someone that unhealthy and abusive has to say that it wouldn't be worth the time and effort. You'd just move on to 1000 other people who aren't such degenerates that you could literally see it from a mile away.
That is, unless like I said, you're disgusting heaps of blubber yourselves who keep to your own. In which case I'm just telling you to kill yourself, fatty. Your hormones and neurotransmitters are all fucked up and nothing you say will ever matter until you get down to an acceptable BMI for about a decade.
>>341866068
You're wrong.
Demise/Ganon is the embodiment of power.
Zelda is the embodiment of wisdom.
Link is the embodiment of courage.
When Ganon touches the triforce, his overpowerdness breaks it up and the courage part goes to link, the wisdom part goes to Zelda.
How can you say that is coincidential?
>>341866525
They embody courage and wisdom because they're the hero and the goddess.
Are you dumb?
>>341860743
>Why can't Link be female?
>Because we don't want him to be.
>Why?
>Because - - -
>Those reasons aren't good enough for me!!!
Fuck these people. There is no reason for Link to be female. It is perfectly in their rights to leave Link male.
>>341866525
You need help.
>>341864137
>>341866573
I watched the video once to see what he was bitching about, got 2/3 of the way through and paused it to read comments.
These people disgust me and I'd much rather never have to interact with this shit again , but when it's trying to fuck with something you like... what else do you do?
>>341861871
>2 holes down there
>2 dicks down there
DUH
>>341866525
Ok now I know you either definitely didn't play skyward sword or you're just retarded.
Power = evil
Wisdom = Hylia/Zelda
Courage = Hero of time/Link
Those are all tied to eachother without a doubt.
Pls stop replying because you clearly know fuck all.
It's because these type of people have concept of narrative causality and would sacrifice telling a good story or telling a story in a good way just to make their fee fees feel better.
>>341866630
Because Link touches the Triforce in Skyward Sword and it DOESN'T BREAK. In that moment, he embodies all three virtues equally, proving it's a conditional variable that can be changed.
>>341867134
now I see clearer, thank you anon
>>341867140
>Power=evil
Power is neutral, all of the qualities are, they're facets of the Goddesses. Power is the most easily corrupted, but that does not make it an absolute that it is evil.
People like you who insist that certain parts of Zelda's lore "have" to be a certain way are the reason the series became so thematically stale to begin with.
>>341867209
But that's an edit
Also is is "progressive" to support Israel or go against it?
>>341866523
>Nintendo makes Linkle
>Nobody plays it
Hey man, I already bought HW for the Wii U. Like hell am I going to buy it again for the 3DS, especially with that framerate.
>>341860743
Jim says that for the Patreon bucks.
>>341867840
When are those toons coming to the Wii U? Still says summer 2016
>>341867809
>But that's an edit
>>341867971
I honestly don't know.
Stopped paying attention to it once I learned that the Wii U wouldn't get the Adventure maps.
Nintendo should never have released the timeline.
It just gives crazy types the ability to justify anything they want.
>>341867809
>But that's an edit
No, it's not.
>>341864178
Even Guru Larry shits on him.
Why does Nintendo need to give an amazing reason when the only reason people can give for Link to be a grill is "WELL, THERE'S NO REASON HE CAN'T BE!"
I don't see why Link can't be a girl. I don't care one way or another, but there's no particular reason (outside of "the devs want him male") that the Hero of Time could not reincarnate as a girl. It wouldn't really even require much explanation. She'd still hold the triforce of courage, she'd just be a lady is all.
That said, who honestly gives any amount of a fuck about what gender the player character is in any videogame? Or for that matter, the appearance of the player character at all? As long as it isn't lore-breaking to whichever game it applies to.
I don't know why nu-males, tumblrinas, and most of /v/ get their jimmies so rustled over something as ultimately meaningless as character appearance.
>>341860743
The Japanese don't give a shit about American minority groups trying to create flaws where there are none.
>>341860743
If Nintendo would listen to these people, then BotW would be a grimdark game with a shitload of characters and part strategy.
>>341867809
>But that's an edit
I'm so sorry. And, honestly, I don't think "progressive" types have a hard stance on Israel. That whole situation is such a clusterfuck that I don't think any of them are really informed enough to say which one is "right"
>>341865693
>>341864168
>>341860743
>>341868405
>>341868454
They're not going to say it, but you know Nintendo is looking at Pokemon's diverse character options.
If you open one door with Link's gender being customizable, it would be exclusive and hypocritical not to open the flood gates for different skin colors.
Japanese devs know the gender and diversity thing is a minefield in the west. Just look at what the devs of Summer Lesson said. They made it as clear as possible. People will endlessly cry "Why am I not represented?"
Nintendo tries to be fair creating a cast of diverse characters, but they won't sacrifice Link. Because they know just like the Summer Lesson devs, there's no satisfying these idiots. Not until Link is made a martyr for their cause and becomes some kind of amorphous blob.
>Nintendo announces the next Zelda will have a female Link
>but the next Metroid will have a male Samus
How do the EssJayDubbleyous react, /v/?
>>341869023
>but the next Metroid will have a male Samus
Would take make Metroid gay or would they change it into a female robot?
>>341869023
They don't buy either game just like before.
>sjws: a persons physical gender doesn't represent his/her spiritual gender
>same sjjws: Why can't Link be reincarnated as a female? It's always a different Link
Which one is it?
Also: Let's start a petition in advance to keep Link male in the next Zelda game in 2020.
Something Like
"Dear Nintendo/Aonuma, don't let western feminist bloggers fool you. These people don't buy your games and aren't even interested in your franchise. Zelda is an easy target for them because...blabla".
We need him to know that there are Fans out there who don't want this.
>>341868219
Minimize backlash. The honest statement would be
>We are the creators. The game reflects our visions. We have no gender agenda we want to push. We currently do not want to monetize on foreign gender agenda that probably will not fit with our Japanese customers. Thank you for your feedback.
This is a completely sound and logic answer and yet it would probably push a lot of buttons Nintendo never would want to.
>>341868756
It's also a warped sense of reality. With the western approach of community inclusion in development processes, people suddenly expect to have right at being represented in anything. For games, the lines between "artistic creation" and "mass production delivery service" are way too thin these days and this does certainly not help the discourse.
People should make requests and tolerate that those might be ignored.
Instead, people make demands and wonder why developers don't deliver promptly.
>>341869221
I think after that massive bum rush to play BotW at E3 they are more than aware there are fans out there.
Honestly, ever since actual footage of the game has come out I haven't seen anyone outside of the fuckhead in the OP complain about Link's gender. Everyone seems too genuinely hype for this game, and Jimbo Canucklehead is just baiting for views (successfully so, I might add)
>>341869285
But there wouldn't be any backlash if people didn't expect it because of some """"leak"""" from a discredited twitter person.
They won't make Link female because it is too important of an IP.
They are currently making theme parks and merchandise to capitalize on the Zelda World. Nintendo isn't desperate like comics and even there they recognize that the iconic versions must star in the versions people actually pay attention to which are the movies.
>>341869645
People really need to stop and think before they tweet dumb shit.
>>341869416
But Aonuma said that he became aware of the whole "female Link" shit that went on on internet boards. Thats huge since I'm sure he doesn't spend all his time browsing Neogaf or some crap. I really read it everywhere. It's like a virus.
Idiots who never liked Zelda hear about it. Think to themselves "Oh...i never liked zelda, but maybe if he is female I could give it a shot." Then posts his shitty opinion everywhere and likeminded sheep agree by the thousands.
>>341869221
>spiritual gender
Don't make stuff up.
>>341862768
But there are?
Zelda is a girl
Ganondorf is a boy
Link is a cute girl (male)
>>341869221
>"Dear Nintendo/Aonuma, don't let western feminist bloggers fool you. These people don't buy your games and aren't even interested in your franchise. Zelda is an easy target for them because...blabla".
You should let someone else handle this part.
>>341869753
>>341869776
>>341869935
>>341861389
Kratos is a single character. "Link" is many different characters who gets new origins as the games go on, and who's name isn't really even "Link" every time.
>>341869805
I don't. When trans people say "They feel like they are in the wrong body" this is what it implies. That their brain/soul is that of the opposite sex. (Which is retarded)
>>341862912
>I was 99% certain they were setting up gender choices for the next Zelda game when they added that retarded character to Hyrule Warriors
That's a big leap. It seemed pretty obvious it was just SJW pandering. Naturally no SJW will care that they're breaking so many other Zelda conventions in terms of gameplay. So superficial.
I legitimately wanted a female link, she could even wear the same clothes and shit, just add boobs and it's done
>>341870143
Gender is psychological, not "spiritual". Modern science doesn't do with souls.
>>341869915
I wasn't really trying to come up with something. Also, I'm not a native english speaker. Obviously I wouldn't write it myself.
>>341869678
I'm not sure what point you want to make. The reason doesn't matter that much. If they put enough motion behind it, SJWs can work with
>WELL, THERE'S NO REASON HE CAN'T BE!
just as well, like the previous anon pointed out. In a warped discussions filled with misunderstandings, this is not that uncommon.
>>341861871
its balance between link - zelda - ganondorf
how hard it is to understand?
>>341870215
>It seemed pretty obvious it was just SJW pandering.
Weird how it seems so obvious to you. Maybe because you made it up.
>>341870037
I'm surprised he's still posting after getting BTFO so hard last month for his Will Eisner comment
>>341870215
>It seemed pretty obvious it was just SJW pandering.
It wasn't, dipshit. Koei Tecmo created her for the waifufags. Why do you think do they even add characters like Marin?
>>341870367
...and that balance requires two penis?
Why not just make a character customizer like every other rpg with a silent protagonist since 2005?
>>341870406
Why else would they do it? Who else would have wanted a female Link?
>>341869753
It's Aaron Diaz. He's a fucking narcissist Artiste who draws a comic about his own pefect create-a-waifu at a snail's pace for a living.
The man is high on the smell of his own delicate farts, and thinks that because he drew some mediocre rule 63 of a character (because that's really all his Zelda "concept" is) that he should have a say in this 30 year old franchise, and the creator and director should just do as he and the rest of that whiny, childish section of the internet say.
Not like their bullshit even matters. Breath of the Wild has enough driving force now that it's going to move NX consoles no matter what the specs turn out to be.
>>341869645
I blame this fuckhead and his shitty Zelda fanfic. Every tumblrina and bloggers started jizzing about the idea of reversing roles.
>>341860743
>trying to reason with the mentally ill
>>341870448
Yes, so they can stick one in either end and high-five to form a triforce.
>>341870273
>Gender is psychological, not "spiritual". Modern science doesn't do with souls.
You can't explain the human soul with science.
>>341860743
Actual girls need to start defending their husbando. Nothing more glorious than these faggots getting btfo by an actual vagina.
>>341870412
I need to see this.
Also apparently he sent his Zelda ideas to Nintendo and got a C&D.
>>341870448
Zelda has two holes.
>>341870406
>>341870432
But "must be gender options in the new zelda" is definitely a reasonable assumption. Makes sense.
>>341870468
That's even worse. Go to your room, you are grounded.
No.
>>341870660
wat
Can I post on here again or is Australia still banned?
>>341870594
>RPing spirituality is the new meme
I miss atheist 4chan.
>>341870658
>Zelda has two holes
Huh, which holes is she missing?
We know she has a mouth.
Is she anus-less?
>>341870143
They actually feel as if wrongly hard-wired in their brain. There's actual physical representation in the brain for that. Even without that, it would be too common to justify dismissing it as hallucination.
You may treat it as a mental condition, some people need that to rationalize it for themselves. However, it certainly has nothing to do with actual retardation, which is a real thing, or paranormal bullshit like souls, which certainly is not a real thing.
>>341870468
Yeah and make the combat more like Soulsborne and then let me traverse the world like shadow the hedgehog and have a dialogue wheel.
>>341870594
That's what I said. Just like you can't explain astrology either.
>>341870741
>didn't read the conversation
>just replied to random comment
>"w-wat m8?"
>>341870861
Grills don't poop.
>>341870658
He's deleted it (of course) but just do a search for it. There were a lot of funny replies.
>mfw Zelda is destined to a life of memes before it's even begun
Fuck downgradefags. Fuck "Link should be a girl" fags. Fuck this goddamn industry I just want to talk about vidya.
>>341870975
Oh, now I get what you're saying. Looked like a load of gibberish at first.
Yes that is a much more reasonable assumption really.
I hate these goddamn roasties trying to turn a pure femboi into a nasty roasty to fuel their narcisism
>>341870702
Only on the internet would someone listen to someone like this.
Jim Sterling is a fat, pale, sweaty slob with an arrogant attitude. This is the worst combination for ugly people because then they have 0 redeeming qualities. Would you listen to someone acting, looking and probably smelling like this in real life? Talk about bad genes.
>>341860743
It's simple really.
Because suddenly changing a 30-year icon like that is stupid. Remember when Marvel fell for this fad and did it for their characters? Remember how successful that was?
Did he not watch the treehouse event and notice that the women playing wanted to leave him shirtless? Does he not know why this series attracts so many women in the first place?
>>341870912
The difference is that one is bullshit and the other is a two millenia-old organized system of coherent and consistent beliefs
>>341865498
A male spirit, yeah. I could imagine the outrage if Zelda turned out to be the king this time.
It's such a shame because the new Zelda game seems so fucking cool and I don't even like Zelda games.
>>341861871
The 'balance' is the 'hero saves princess from big bad guy' thing
Anything else is not truly a loz game.
![[BAD NEWS INTENSIFIES].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ngc0UbG.gif "[BAD NEWS INTENSIFIES].gif")
>aaron diaz
What a faggot.
>>341860743
Why is he ok with FF's and GTA's explanations but not BotW's?
What kind of shitty hypocrisy is this?
I hate this cunt but he's right, those are some retarded excuses and I don't see why anyone would get triggered over that video.
>>341871217
Yeah, souls are pretty bullshit.
>>341862912
Linkle is retarded OC trash designed to appease idiots and it partially worked.
>>341868756
Jap devs still don't give a fuck.
Your Summer Lesson example is just them going "Oh well, there's too much work satisfying the DIVERSE groups in the west with this game"
SJW's influence has reached Japan, but instead of laying down flat like the western developers do-they just don't plan on localising it.
It will take YEARS for them to realise that the people complaining are in the micro-minority and not their audience at all.
>>341863572
There is, it's called canon.
Anyone got the rest of Dobson's tweets on this?
>>341860743
Why are journos so fucking obsessed about Zelda. There are hundreds of video game franchises with male protags, but they are this butthurt only about Zelda.
KEEP LINK A TWINK
REMOVE SJWS
I've never once heard a good reason for why Zelda needs a genderswapped Link as a playable character. And no, "I want more fap fuel" and "IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR" are not good reasons.
What would a female Link actually add to a Zelda game? Why would playing as a female Link benefit the series? People seem to forget that while Link a bit of a player insert he does have his own personality and is a bit of his own character.
>>341871497
Yup, down the drain
And straight into the pre-order lines.
>>341871151
>claims to get it
>clearly doesn't
I'm not even sure if you're trolling or a retard anymore.
Get fucked. Link will never be a female. Period. Like aonuma already said: If there is ever to be a female lead in a zelda game then it might as well just be zelda herself or sheik.
>>341871497
>>341871670
>Disagree with someone
>"hurr you clearly didn't get it"
Are you sure you're not the retard?
>>341871653
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>>341871497
>>341871747
Does he still get like $10 on Patreon?
I want the next Metroid to be a man
>>341871747
Link of this shithead?
Every time this argument comes up, I say that Link should be female for a game if Samus is male for a game since it makes about as much sense for that to happen.
That usually makes the fem-Link brigade mad enough to shit rivets so you can call them out on their blatant hypocrisy.
>>341870143
Gender dysphoria is an extremely rare condition that less than .1% of the world's population legitimately have.
The rest of the transgenders are special snowflakes who instead of embracing their sexuality went on a rampage surgically and hormonally to make themselves look like the gender they are "attracted" to.
Transitioning is an incredibly lucrative business for doctors, surgeons and pharmaceutical companies. Just accepting that a person is born in the wrong body based on feelings instead of actually having them psycho-analysed is common today.
It shouldn't be, but thanks to PC-culture it is.
The suicide-rate that the SJW always relegate to "harassment" and "transphobia" is just that person realising they fucked up and are just a gay male or a gay female.
Caitlyn Jenner will transition back in a few years and people will get pissed. Just wait and see.
>>341871780
You stated you didn't get it. Not me.
>>341871626
You know who else has way less characterization than Link? That chick from dinosaur tribal game Horizon. And yet no one is asking for that game to have gender options, even though you could also make it with minimal affect on the story or gameplay.
>>341871747
Link will always be male, just like Dobson will always be a fat balding man with an inflation fetish
>>341871789
Yup
One game used in every single game station that could fit at their booth they'd normally have for demos, and yet still the longest line in E3 history, or at least since the Wii reveal.
>Nintendo made a mistake by having only one game playable at E3
Evidently not.
Of course the real Diaz has a selfinsert as some tech genius mentor.
>>341871045
>>341871497
It should be allowed to punch people this stupid.
>>341871521
Because Zelda is one of the few Nintendo franchises left that still attracts gamers out of the autistic Nintendrone perspective.
Anouma worded that entirely wrong, what's pissing people off is the Zelda sentence.
All they needed to say was that they feel Link has a personality and is not a self insert for the player, therefore they do not want to allow you to choose Link's gender at the start of the game. That's essentially what me means in this quote, however bringing up Zelda and the "What would Link do?" shit just confounds and upsets people because while it does confirm Link will have a static gender it also confirms that we'll probably never have a Zelda game because then there would be nothing for Link to do.
>>341861389
>Let's go try make Kratos in GoW a girl instead
>>341860743
All he says tho is that he doesn't care about gender but Nintendo's explanation was shit
>>341871930
You clearly didn't get it.
>>341871853
>>341871896
Seriously. Honestly, I don't want either but it'd be nice to see how these idiots would react if Nintendo did some reveal on a new Metroid with a manly looking Samus, leaving similar confusion.
>>341871497
>>341871747
>2014
>"Hey, Link looks kinda like a girl this time, I think they're making link a girl!"
>Aonuma: "Sorry, but this link is male."
>"We said it, so there's no way they can ignore us!"
>2016
>Aonuma: "Here is the new Zelda, please enjoy"
>"I can't believe they didn't make Link a girl what a bunch of sexist bullshit"
>>341871938
Nobody's asking for that because nobody gives a fuck about Horizon.
>>341870037
The thing is that he could have worked on Zelda if he really wanted to.
He's a good concept artist.
The only problem is that he cannot be arsed to make a change like most hashtag activists.
If he started learning Japanese and moved to Japan in his 20s, he would have most likely been accepted on a ground-level position at Nintendo and worked his way up.
How do you think these people would react if they made Samus male?
>>341872198
Thanks for being cancer.
>>341872012
Proof that you literally can't win with SJWs
Why even bother trying to side with them?
>>341872006
That post was either bait which you swallowed whole, or it was praising the game for drawing such a crowd by itself.
Either way don't be so defensive about the games you like, people around here feed on it.
>>341872028
But why not care about non-Nintendo franchises? In fact why the fuck have they ignored all the franchises that allowed them to play as women?
>>341871747
After this LotZ game comes out we should drop a rumor about next Link having brown hair. He would lose his shit when it'll turn out that it's fake.
>>341871853
>>341871896
>>341872245
Their answer to this is always that Samus is the same Samus across all the games and has more of a personality so it's not the same.
>>341872150
It's actually better than the original.
>>341870037
>knowingly mislead people
How fucking deluded are these people?
>>341872283
It has some people interested. The threads here are largely positive toward it.
>>341864080
Did you play SS? Demise cursed Link to forever be locked in battle through time.
>>341872285
>He's a good concept artist.
AHAHAHAHAHA
No. He's mediocre. You know how artists like to draw so big you can still see the strokes? Usually it still looks good if not even better up close.
Diaz is one of those where it falls apart. You can see how much of a hack he is. You can even tell when it's scaled down.
>>341872297
>>341872245
>>341871896
It would be called "progressive" and used as fuel to further their argument that all characters should be gender swapped at least once.
>>341872430
Nintendo has lots of casual mainstream appeal, so it gets lots of idiots asking for stupid shit. Pretty much that simple.
>>341872504
Link is the same person across all games too. Literally a reincarnation every time. And I mean, reincarnation, far as I understand it, is far more literal in the Zelda universe.
>>341870037
>my own false assumptions are the fault of the Nintendo corporation and Aonuma. Assholes!
Fucking kek, what a faggot.
>>341872517
It's actually not
>>341871626
it would be different, and in a series where things are always generally pretty much the same with a few gimmicks/tweaks, this seems like a fine little mini-gimmick.
Truth be told i dont really care about getting a female link or male zelda or whatever, but i find the immense hatred toward the concept confusing. Its a fine idea that could very well work.
>>341872698
Whoa, is that Moss?
>>341872348
Well, unfortunately, if you're a good person you can't really help siding with them.
Why didn't feminists ever pick up on Game BOY?
>>341872504
>Has more of a personality
Because she has a few mission statements?
>Same Samus
It was written that Link is always reincarnated the same way. I don't understand the difference.
Honestly, I don't even have an issue with them making Link female. My issue lies in these people literally begging to be pandered towards. It's not "progressive," it's entitlement, and it makes their reasoning seem so insincere.
>>341871169
He tries to mask his arrogance by making it seem like an act.
>>341872820
It is. Mohawks are radical.
>>341872348
All it shows is that Aaron Diaz doesn't actually care about feminist issues at all and just wants brownie points with girls. I'm sure his only reason for playable Zelda is for waifu reasons.
Why do people so worked up about genders?
Link is a guy because the creators wanted him to be a guy. There's no sexist reason behind it.
What's next? Make two movies with a male MC and female MC?
>>341872943
Go back to tumblr
SJWs are constantly in the wrong and want to end the most important values we hold dear, such as free speech.
>>341872504
NUH-UH ANON!!! YOU CAN TOTALLY CHANGE SAMUS' GENDER AND IT WON'T EVEN MATTER BECAUSE HE IS IN A SUIT AND YOU WON'T EVEN SEE HIM ANYWAYS JUST PUT A GENDER SELECTION SCREEN IN AFTER YOU CHOOSE NEW GAME IT'S TOTALLY EASY YOU SHITLORD I JUST THINK YOU'RE AFRAID OF CHANGE LIKE A MALE SAMUS AND MAYBE A GIRL RIDLEY BECAUSE RIDLEY IS TOTALLY A GIRL NAME TOO SINCE IT'S CLOSE TO RIPLEY LIKE IN ALIEN RIGHT?
See? The sword cuts both ways.
>>341872732
But why aren't these idiots also bothering other people. ASAIK they also play non-Nintendo games.
>>341873024
They're meh. And you could just put one on Kratos if you really want one.
>>341872297
I wish they made her a trap.
>>341873095
If you want to show you're in the right then blatant strawmen are not the way to go.
>kick out gobblegate
>LOL WHY GAMES ARE DYING
fuck off
>>341873046
He'd probably want female Link voiced by Ashley Burch. Mainly so he could trap her in the recording booth and rape her.
>>341873225
Games aren't dying. Fuck off "gobblegate".
>>341872767
>>341872985
But still a different body, it's the same Link but also a different one, so it makes less sense to make Samus a male but not for Link to come back as a girl.
Not saying i agree but really they'll find ways to run this into a circle forever. It doesnt matter what you tell them.
>>341873064
YOU JUST TRIGGERED ME
Remember when Samus was trans?
>>341872943
Bait, but as a good person the sense of entitlement it takes to believe everyone's creative visions should bend to your personal feelings is still infuriating
>>341872830
Different isnt a good enough excuse. And no it isnt, it's a horrible and stupid idea that makes no fucking sense outside of selfish gratification.
>>341872830
I just hate the idea because genderswapping is lazy as fuck and comes across as "we need extra characters but can't be fucked to actually make any worth note.' If you wanna make a Zelda game where you play Zelda then that's cool, she has her own skill set and does her own thing, but don't just make a female Link, that's dumb trash.
Also what >>341872985 said, I don't get the impression most people wanting a female Link want it because they think it'd be neat they just want it because they feel like it has to happen for some reason.
>>341872985
>It's not "progressive," it's entitlement, and it makes their reasoning seem so insincere.
and thats why its a bit maddening that Nintendo wont just come out and say "we wont make link female because we dont want to" and are coming up with terrible retarded lore reasons that make no god damned sense.
This issue could have been done with, but Zelda devs giving stupid explanations has given the other side a lot more fuel to use in this discussion.
>>341873329
>>341873178
How is it a strawman?
SJWs believe that we should end freedom of speech and expression. That there should be mandated censorship and quotas.
>>341864703
God, you're so right.
Can the word gamer go back to describing people who, you know, PLAY VIDEO GAMES, instead of being associated with autism activists for people's rights to be socially retarded?
>>341873143
But right now Kratos has no mohawk. That's why he's worse.
>>341873419
>>341873509
>>341864703
>>341864576
Those fucks are such a minority, you're letting pictures on the internet skew your view of reality
>>341873491
If that's all you want, yeah. I like the classic look as a whole more.
>>341873491
But he has a beard, an objectively superior hairstyle
I wouldn't care if the next Zelda had female Link or playable Zelda, but at the same time I hope Nintendo doesn't because it's entertaining watching these faggots get triggered over nothing.
>>341873406
It isn't Nintendo's fault for playing nice and humoring people, anon. What seems to be lost on them is the scope of these people's crazy and how much of a fit they'll be willing to pitch over not getting something they decided they want. Still, that's not on Nintendo, either. It's probably mostly tranny activists making use of the soapbox social media has given them to throw temper tantrums in a way that people aren't allowed to complain about anymore.
>>341873695
It's inferior unless it's a bear-mohawk.
>>341860743
While arguing about Link being female or not is silly, Jim here said is true. Nintendo always makes up shitty reasons for things they do. "Ridley can't be playable in Smash because he flies and is vicious." Ignoring flying characters on the roster like Charizard and once of their most vicious characters, Ganondorf. They lie all the fucking time and no fan or journalist ever fucking calls them out on it. Never. Not fucking once. Hopefully some day they do so we can watch them squirm on the spot trying and failing to come up with decent answers.
>>341873676
What a bunch of trifling jealous cunts
>>341860743
You play as a girl?
Now I'm interested
>>341873406
>>341873784
Nintendo is too polite to tell people "We said no multiple times already, fuck off", even if that's what they want to say and sort of have. They come up with stupid answers because they dont want to answer with something they consider rude.
>>341873064
And if that's the reason they gave, OP's video wouldn't exist.
>>341873938
You dont. Stay uninterested.
>>341873910
this. don't give a shit bout zelda but Ninty has always given shit excuses.
>>341873971
Stupid questions deserve stupid answers. A hard concept to grasp for some these days.
>>341873910
It is a shit excuse, but I'm sure they'd love to just say "fuck off".
>mfw Breath of the Wild is the talk of the town and will be a huge success and watershed moment for the franchise, and these people can't cope with the fact that they missed their chance to rub their stink all over it
