http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/news/12815/?
>If the very thought of mods on consoles upsets you. Stop reading. Infact, just leave the site. You’re very likely to be a douche and an endemic problem within the PC gaming community. There is nothing wrong with the concept of mods being available on consoles.
>If your issue is with mods being on consoles at all out of some bigoted view of PCs being better than consoles, then piss off. Seriously, just go. There’s no place for you in this community.
>There is no reason consoles should not be allowed to have mods ... If you disagree then you’re a part of some extreme-right side of the “PC Master Race” (see: teenie bopper) shite and need to grow the hell up.
>>341777864
they aren't wrong though
>bigot
>right wing
>being used in this situation
Holy fucking shit.
>>341778674
This.
Don't stop making advanced mods that consoles can't handle
But consoles totally deserves mods.
>>341777864
No, the nexus needs drm for mods. To think console babies need to steal mods I offer to get them lol, they are no better than niggers.
They're in the right though. If people are bitching about mods being on consoles than they're probably 8-9 years old and still think that "console wars" is still the hot shit. They need to fuck off
>>341777864
>extreme-right side
what did he mean by this
That sounds fair.
There are points to be made about opening up mods to the masses because of the clear negative reaction due to the masses not understanding how mods work, nobody would deny that. But this is saying that if you're just gonna be a platform warring cunt then fuck off.
>Throwing a bunch political jargon in for no reason.
What's up with this guy.
>>341777864
I am not reading that 5100 word article of his. Considering just how agressively any comment/criticism/difference of opinion is reacted upon... I dont want to read it. If there is a brave soul who is willing to TL;DR it, please do.
>>341777864
/r/pcmasterrace shit is annoying, but consolefriends are the ones being petulant little shits in this situation
>>341777864
I honestly don't give a shit. I doubt consoles will ever have their own horsecock mods.
They're right.
PC gamers act like total fucking assholes when they have something "exclusive" but as soon as someone else does or it becomes multiplat they'll go "oh it wasn't good anyways"
i don't even think people are openly against the idea of mods on consoles. the problem is who is overseeing the addition and management of these mods. bethesda will find a way to fuck up, i can guarantee it.
>>341780294
And console gamers are acting like crybaby shitheads now, demanding modders port their script extender mods to consoles despite being impossible. They're too fucking stupid to understand that some mods simply won't work on console.
>>341777864
There's nothing wrong with mods on consoles and there's very few who actually have the mentality that consoles should never have them. It's just the consistent whining and threats for mods that cannot work consoles that is making people not want their mods on consoles because of how toxic and ignorant the community on consoles can be
>>341777864
>and need to grow the hell up
>being told to grow up by someone whose username is literally Dark0ne
Why do they haff to be so mad? That's not how you respond to communities at all. It's like their PR person just got up and left the duties to the janitor.
Nobody likes to be demonized, you'll just end up pushing their attitude in the direction you don't want.
>>341780161
tl;dr
>Fucking Right Wing PC fags, go the fuck away!
He also implies that the vast majority of mod thieves are Gamergaters.
What is this in response to? Are people actually opposing consoles getting mods? It's not like modders are obligated to make their mods compatible, are they? So who the fuck cares.
>>341777864
Yeah I agree, but because they have been opened to a whole other market, people are stealing other peoples mods and benefiting from it, or stealing mods way too complex for consoles (Which isn't hard to do, no offence.) that completely brick it.
To think that just because you think mods shouldn't be on console that that means you're a bigot, is bigoted. There are some reasons to think that mods shouldn't be on consoles that aren't bigoted. I'd say they're wrong, but they're not necessarily bigoted.
>>341780592
>haff
>>341780672
>He also implies that the vast majority of mod thieves are Gamergaters
I dont think he has any evidence or hard facts to back up or substantiate such a claim or implication. At this point, it is his opinion, which has no basis in reality, and thus is a prejudice.
>throw political buzzwords around
>thinking you make an argument
My favorite meme.
>>341780161
is not a console war, it actually discusses of all the problems on all fronts, like how console players straight up stole modder's content, how Bethesda are a bunch of dumbfucks who dont know how to manage a website like the Nexus, who are willing to protect their content but not the users that rely on them.
>Bethesda are like a father who left you at birth with all the tools you need to survive. They weren’t there for you, they haven’t looked after you or protected you when you needed it, but they did leave you to fend for yourself with some pretty good tools. Sure, without them you wouldn’t have ever existed and the tools they provided were invaluable in staying alive, but ultimately it was you, the person with the tools that made you the person you are today.
They aren't wrong but the problem is that mods are being stolen. If someone doesn't want their mod on a platform then it shouldn't be.
>>341777864
Refuse to read all the way, but what are these "thieves" people keep mentioning?
>>341780716
>What is this in response to?
A strawman.
Daily reminder that if you actually spend your time playing Bethesda RPGs after Oblivion you should immediately euthanize yourself.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHECK THE BOX YOU SHITLORD
>>341781075
The article tries to pin GG as the thieves.
>>341781120
And a daily reminder if you play Bethesda games on consoles you should be ashamed of yourself and potentially looking into killing yourself
>>341780294
>PC gamers act like total fucking assholes when they have something "exclusive" but as soon as someone else does or it becomes multiplat they'll go "oh it wasn't good anyways"
>>341777864
He's right.
The only reason a mod shouldn't be on console is if the console can't handle it.
Anything else is just being petty.
>>341781215
But what are they being accused of stealing!?
I don't know if consoles SHOULD have mods, but it would be nice. Though I feel it should really be community driven like PC instead of monetary driven, since most mods tend to build off each other. I have other concerns too, like how the community would be form and how it would regulated since consoles would likely have to go through official channels but mainly I think this can't work at all unless it's community driven.
>>341780161
read a book nigger.
If you scroll down there is even a sort of "FAQ"
Such about MOD ownership, it has some nice answers about stupid questions I read here too.
Also covering the idea that the mod author knows or might not know if a mod will work on a console.
>Bethesda don’t own mods made with the Creation Kit. By using the Creation Kit to create a mod, you grant Bethesda a license to pretty much do anything with your work, but that doesn’t mean they own it. Indeed, the license agreement specifically states “Ownership. As between You and ZeniMax, You are the owner of Your Game Mods and all intellectual property rights therein, subject to the licenses You grant to ZeniMax in this Agreement.”. It doesn’t get any clearer than that. Mod authors own their mods, but Zenimax are granted licenses within the agreement to do a number of things with it. Once again, Zenimax are granted licenses, NOT YOU.
>Lastly, the Creation Kit license agreement only covers content made within the Creation Kit itself. It would not include things made with software outside of the Creation Kit including, but not limited to, models, textures, animations, sound effects and so on and so forth. Zenimax/Bethesda are not granted licenses to that content unless authors specifically upload said content to Bethesda.net.
>What we take from this is that mods are owned by mod authors, irrespective of what they contain. And as a result, the work is automatically copyrighted (as is all unique work you create) and authors can protect their work like anyone else on the internet who has made unique work themselves.
>>341780672
Where does he do that?
>>341779894
>purposefully ignoring the "don't" prefacing that statement
Literally click bait mentality
>>341781457
Every mod theft of Beth games ever, apparently.
>>341781181
Jfc link to the source of the pic? I wanna see who else made autistic comments
>You’re a part of some extreme-right side of the “PC Master Race” (see: teenie bopper) shite and need to grow the hell up.
>>341781482
That will never happen though. You'll always stay in a walled garden on a console.
>>341781412
But theywedo. Remember the shit storm when Payday 2 said it was coming to consoles and wasn't exclusive? Remember the shitstorm when Mount and Blade was getting ported to consoles? Every time a game is coming to consoles and PCs, PC gamers whine that the game is suddenly going to suck because it's going to be downgraded, dumbed down garbage just because consoles now have access to it.
>>341779942
He's an asshole
>>341781561
I would ask you to explain that further, but the only possible answer is that the author is actually retarded.
If you make mods that I can't play on my Xbox you shouldn't be allowed to make them. Fuck you I have right to mods and you making them too much for my console isn't fair and you're a fucking bigot against console users.
Just updated my mods to require SKSE. Reminder, NMM is garbage. Use Wrye Bash.
>>341781428
>The only reason a mod shouldn't be on console is if the console can't handle it.
Unfortunately that's the case for a lot of mods, but underage console users refuse to aknowledge that and instead blame "muh elitistm"
>>341781181
>but PC gamers are the entitled ones
>>341781561
They have a time machine. They've committed every theft ever and some that didn't happen.
>>341779175
>But consoles totally deserve mods
Why do they deserve them?
>>341777864
>you’re a part of some extreme-right side of the “PC Master Race” (see: teenie bopper)
i don't even know what he's trying to say
>>341781604
Yes, I don't think it will happen either. Was Just saying in relation to the discussion.
I really like this actually. I have so far uploaded two of my mods to the Nexus, one popular, and one fledgling, to see what the pains would be on Bethesda.net, and I do intend to continue porting my mods over. However, the more I watch the PC section of that site, the more I think I may only upload for consoles to Bethesda.net. I have yet to receive a single comment on the PC upload, but many comments on the XB1 uploads.
Console users deserve to be able to get mods, however as an author, I don't think that the times for release on PC and release on consoles will be too close. I already had several problems specific to either consoles or to Bethesda.net, like not being able to confirm all the files got uploaded (which they did not, leading to a major issue in one of my mods). I'm probably going to only upload onto consoles when I know that the mod is stable and won't be changing much.
Bethesda.net doesn't give useful tools like a bug report section, or the ability to upload optional versions of the mod (like compatibility patches between it and other mods). Therefore, anything that gets uploaded onto Bethesda.net has to be encapsulated.
>>341781181
Consoles really do ruin everything
>>341781412
I'm a PC shitter but fuck you dude LittleBigPlanet was a great game.
>>341781619
>Remember the shit storm when Payday 2 said it was coming to consoles and wasn't exclusive
no because it was never gonna be an exclusive, hell the first game was released on PS3 first
>Remember the shitstorm when Mount and Blade was getting ported to consoles
no because its old as fuck and the sequel is being released soon?
>>341777864
>people won't read the whole thing
He's saying that there's a big issue and that they oppose bethesda.net, not because of some PC Master Race crap, but because people are stealing their mods.
>>341781619
>Mount and Blade
You mean the shitposting from Sony shills with each thread starting with
>Never ever
Why yes, I do remember that.
>>341781428
There's also mod creators who don't feel like dropping a few hundred dollars on a console and a game thy already own on PC, just to tweak their mods for said console and please the crybabbies.
>>341781215
THIS is what it says about who steal the mods
>This is soul crushing for mod authors. To see their hard work being taken, without their permission, often times by people actually openly goading, trolling and mocking the mod authors about the theft and that nothing was being done about it. Despite this activity only being done by a small handful of people (who are seemingly just children)
There is NO mention at all about Gamergate, you lying sack of shit, is users like you who come here just to feast on trolling that ruined this place.
>>341778674
This, but the way they express their views about mods on consoles is pretty much asking for flak. Speaking about extreme right side of the PC community by calling everyone who disagrees a faggot with self righteousness is the opposite of that ''extreme right'' and equally bad.
Whether the mod should be on console should in the end be the creator's choice.
>>341777864
I'm a PC gamer and mods on consoles are fine as long as they aren't stolen.
>>341781506
>you own something but we get to use it however we want
wew
I don't give a shit what they think, I'll use the site as I always did; not giving a fuck and just grabbing shit for my games.
>>341778956
Bigot is appropriate
>>341777864
I'm okay with this as long as they don't outright ban people for being douchebags.
>>341777864
>comparing a non political opinion to a political ideology
>>341777864
What an unprofessional way of saying "We understand you may not like console modding, but please bear with us and console players. Everyone have different taste and we hope you understand."
I have no idea why anybody would be against mods on consoles and I don't own any consoles, that sounds extremely retarded.
When did they get from
>mods ruin the experience, i want to play the game as the devs intended
to
>gib mods i report u
?
>>341777864
>bigot
>extreme-right
>teenie bopper
What a bunch of faggots, to think you retards actually play bethesda games and mod them
>>341777864
He's not wrong though.
There's no reason consoles can't have mods (Provided they can handle them and the developer handles it better than Bethesda did with FO4).
The problem is that a lot of the Console users (Who look like kids who have never touched a mod in their short life) think that installing and using mods is as easy as pushing one button, when in fact a lot of the good mods for Bethesda games require a script extender (Which is NOT available for consoles), and sometimes the mods can conflict with each other and break the game or add new bugs. Some mods are badly programmed too and result in unnecessary performance loss.
Because these kids don't know how modding works, they think that the modders that don't release their mods on consoles because of the reasons mentioned above are being PCMR elitists and proceed to steal them and upload them for consoles, only for said mod to not work or break the game.
Why is this a problem?
>Pcucks take a game that isn't their property and edit a mod and only release it for PC because they are snobs
>Console users take that openly distributed mod and make it available for consoles
>YOU ARE STEALING FROM ME I HATE CONSOLES
Faggots.
>>341781901
Man I remember that april fool's article about people not reading and everyone jumping straight to comments.
This thread makes me lose faith on /v/.
>>341782258
Now they can use mods. Before they couldn't and needed to justify it somehow.
>>341782258
Consoles ruin everything.
>>341782220
>gamers
>being professional
>not being autistic
literally everyone involved in video games past the age of 12 have at least a little autism.
>>341782229
Its just people not wanting others to have the cool shit they have. Thats pretty much exactly what this boils down to. "i don't want those console players to have these cool and fun mods"
BLOODY RACISTS
Who is saying that though? No one.
Consoles are closed platform and limited hardware. They will never be able to have access to the more advanced modding scene that PC's provide. That is just a fact that console users will have to deal with.
>>341777864
>mfw consolefags steal mods and brick their consoles because they're too stupid to understand that the mods have requirements
I read the whole thing.
The Nexus guy is entirely in the right, though I'd prefer if console players could never get mods just to enjoy their butthurt tears.
>>341782298
>creating mods is stealing
how's that ps4 treating you, friend?
>>341782298
>Don't release mod on consoles because it requires a script extender or the mod takes too many resources to be playable on them
>Kids don't understand
>Proceed to steal mods and get money and credit off them
>extreme right
You know what? Videogames deserve to be a battleground for politics. Let's just get it over with.
If you like JRPGs you're a fucking TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!!!!!!!
>>341777864
Restricting personal freedoms is a tool of the left though.
>>341777864
The guy rambles on a bit and sidetrack too much, especially with the dumb politics bullshit, but he has a good point, about the mod things at least.
Also, he won't say it outright, but it's pretty clear Bethesda is actively ignoring the issue, at least for now, probably to let the library at their site growing
Dunno how the tags are gonna stop thieving console cunts though.
>>341780820
its a mean you dip
>>341781901
I read the whole thing and I agree with what he's saying but he uses some really stupid wording comparing his opposition to the "far-right" and "bigoted".
>Console users ask for mods that cant be ported due to hardware/script llimitation
>Modders explain it cant be done
>Kids go crazy and start stealing mods
>Somehow is wrong the modders are angry about this.
The soon they realize their supercharged consoles are shit for heavy modding, the soon they will realize why pcs are different than consoles. Fucking hell cant only they activate 2gb of mods when most of us use around 10gb+
>>341782575
>implying weebs aren't berncucks
>>341777864
>Damage Control
More like whiney bitch control
Shut the fuck you whiney bitch
>>341782543
>creating mods is stealing
Where did I say that?
>>341782568
>fix something that doesn't work and releasing it to make people happy
What is the problem here?
>TFW YOUR A CONSOLE NOOB AND DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT MODS
NOT LIKING CONSOLES IS BIGOTED
STOP OPPRESSING ME
>>341782886
berncucks more than likely think anime is "sexist and gross" or some shit.
Here's the thing about the xbone mods, the disable achievements and you can't make a backup save for your non mod run. They're pretty pointless unless you want to play through the game again, and God knows why you'd want to do that.
>>341782298
>Write a book with a pen and paper you didn't invent and produce yoursels
>Someone steals your manuscript and sells it
But you can't be mad at this point, after all your work never mattered since it was only possible due to the work of someone else.
Where was the shill and or damage control you stupid fucking nigger?
>acts like 5000 words is a lot
>i wrote 11,000 words of fapshit tonight in one boner
Jesus, what a fucking whiner.
HE WAS A GOOD XBOT
HE DINSTEAL NUFFIN
>extreme-right
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>341781773
Why don't they? Why does PC deserve them?
>>341782993
>Write a book with a pen and paper you didn't invent and produce yoursels in one language
>Someone translates your manuscript and distributes it freely
Fixed.
>If your issue is with mods being on consoles at all out of some bigoted view of PCs being better than consoles, then piss off.
But PC is objectively better than the consoles. There's no fucking point in arguing whatsoever, PCs are better, they have better framerates, graphics and performance, they have better tools, they can inject shit the consoles cannot, PCs are more open for development while consoles are not. They are also easier to debug mods on.
>There is no reason consoles should not be allowed to have mods
Except all the reasons above.
>If you disagree then you’re a part of some extreme-right side of the “PC Master Race” (see: teenie bopper) shite and need to grow the hell up.
Yes, stating obvious facts about PC and consoles makes you part of some extreme "biggoted" right-wing PC-master-race KKK. Heil Hitler, Allahu Akbar and all that shit. Fuck off.
PC = Capitalism
Consoles = Communism
this PCautist salty thread
What exactly is the argument about?
Are there seriously PC gamers who are mad about the idea that mods will appear on consoles?
As a person who has always used the PC as his primary platform ever since the days of P2 266mhz... why?
What are they mad about?
Fucking Gabe Newell fanboyism and cult-worship is irritating.
>>341783171
And this is illegal. I wonder why.
>>341780820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
>being new
What is the 'Brexit' of videogames?
>>341782229
Updating and keeping shit running requires more work I guess.
I've seen plenty of comments on the page saying people having trouble with their mods on console that they didn't want for PC.
And since most of the time, they have to update their mods every single time an update from Bethesda comes out, I can see why they'd prefer to do less work.
The fox and grapes people definitely still exist though. I just like to think they're the minority.
>>341783449
Emulation
>>341783289
>Are there seriously PC gamers who are mad about the idea that mods will appear on consoles?
No
>>341783449
EA only releasing on Origin?
>>341783317
Now you are getting off topic. If a person edits game files and distributes it only for group A, there is nothing wrong if someone edit that file for group B. Neither side owns that intellectual property.
>>341782860
That's already a thing.
What the fuck is mod theft?
>>341783590
When you illegally download a mod
>>341777864
Consoles are gonna fuck mods just liek they did with dlc some time ago.
>>341783556
Your analogy was stupid.
>>341783620
But they're free, why does it matter
>>341783289
>What are they mad about?
That their mods are being stolen. That the console kids are downvoting their mods to irrelevance unless they support consoles. Which they often cannot do no matter what due to the required libraries and tools being unavailable on consoles.
Basically mods are getting gimped as fuck because console kids will destroy your mod the moment it releases and will throw shit at you once you say you cannot support it. So to mitigate this, you release a shitty version instead to please the console users.
>Trying to turn it into a politics/pseudo-racial situation
Ah yes, this road can only lead to one destination
And that place is called Shitpostistan
>>341777864
I'm not reading all this shit in that link, just tell me if they're saying it's okay for kids to steal mods or not
>>341783675
Are you mad I modded your analogy?
>>341783695
License and registration please.
>>341783780
Now you're just shitposting.
>>341783620
>illegally
>>341783226
The ONE thing consoles have over PC is that as a dev you only have to support one hardware configuration
>>341783726
>Skyrim Remaster comes out
>All the mods that require SKSE get bombarded with this bullshit because people are too stupid to realise how it all works.
>>341777864
dark0ne is a faggot that supported paid mods, what else is new
>>341783767
They basically say they can't hinder it and say "too bad for you, you should have made it for consoles too".
>>341782907
It doesn't get "fixed" by checking a box.
Most Bethesda mods require a Script Extender or else you won't get more than a few texture or model swaps.
Said script extender is not available for consoles, M$ and Sony wouldn't allow it either because
1. It's not even made by Bethesda
2. It could bring security issues by installing unidentified Third-Party software
What is the Hillary Clinton of videogames?
>>341783893
Don't be so thinned skinned. In the end you couldn't make argument why one person tampering with files and releasing it is okay but not someone else.
Mods used to be the only reason people gave for buying a PC version of a game over a console version. Now that reason is negated and their $2000 ENB rig is worthless.
>>341783289
No, there aren't any that i know of. That's merely a meme created by the console shitters to explain why modders don't want to upload their high quality texture mods to the Xbox one.
The wording for this news could've been so much better.
>>341783162
Because it's the PC community that made them, consoles provide absolutely nothing to the community, not even ad renue
>>341783289
>P2 266mhz
I had 66mhz IBM in the 90's. Shit was so cash. Star Wars chess bitches.
Consoles can have mods, there's nothing wrong with that, although there needs to be a strict vetting process from Bethesda, or at least authorised community members. That's how I thought it would work, but the floodgates seem to be open to a complete shitstream.
Either way it's just Bethesda trash. Whatever happens with Skyrim, Fallout 4 and whatever tripe they release in the future doesn't really doesn't bother me.
>>341781181
I fucking hate people who comment like this
>Better be coming to PS4...
No it's not fuck off
>>341784163
Most mods don't even run on consoles.
>$2000
You mean $10,000
>consoles totally deserve mods!
>all 5 of them at a time
>that'll fuck up your save if you ever change them around
Maybe they should accept that current implementation just fucking sucks and no one wants to work around them?
>>341784131
Todd Howard.
You know I would vote for him if he ran for president.
>>341777864
He's precisely telling console mod beggars to shut the fuck up.
>>341777864
>Nexus Mods Goes Full Shill/Damage Control for Bethesda
Did you even read it OP?
He antagonizes Bethesda halfway through. Saying they're treating them like shit.
>>341783862
AM I BEING DETAINED?
>>341784163
When does summer end anyway?
>>341783590
When you take a mod someone else made and reupload it as your own.
>>341783992
>mfw quest or mods in a single file that are more than 2gb
No, but for real, did they said anything about modding Skyrim special edition in consoles?
>>341777864
They are not wrong.
>>341784370
It doesn't begin until the 22nd.
>>341777864
>2 GB limit on xbone
>first beta on PS4 has a 900 MB limit, no sound mods because the PS4 is a special snowflake
>>341784409
It will work the same way as FO4.
>no quality control by bathesda
>this will somehow won't turn out badly for console keks
I'm for it. Let that shit brick their poor people computers.
>all the triggered alt-right fags ITT
toplel
>>341784135
You don't understand how mods work you fucking imbecile. You don't just edit some files to makw more complex mods. There is more to it than that.
>>341784460
He's saying he doesn't like PC elitism but also doesn't like morons on consoles.
>>341784397
And why didn't this happen in the Nexus years?
Just do whatever Nexus did
Is there anything more toxic than this console war/pc master race meme?
>>341784545
Interesting, could you, theoretically of course, release a mod which bricks a console? Purposely or otherwise?
If they released the mods aailable to console people wouldn't be """"""stealing """""""" them
>>341784595
>I don't like anyone!
So why'd he even write it? he knows his shitty community falls into one of two categories
>>341781287
I Play Bethesda game on both platforms, and I don't see why you are so against the idea of playing in consoles . Unless you want to turn the game into a sex simulator (in which case you are better off buying a sex simulator) even with mods the game is essentially the same.
Now my experience primarily comes from playing Oblivion on PC and recently I reinstalled with mods and browsing in the Nexus I have realized that 90% of mods are lorebreaking or look out of place in the game, those that don't are minor gameplay tweaks that in now way make significant changes to the game.
>>341784409
yeah it's got the same beth.net or whatever it is as fallout 4 does, so I can only imagine that if they don't figure it out by then it will be the same shit all over again.
>No Wrye Bash
>No Script Extender
>No ENB
>2GB limit
>No graphics enhancing mods of any kind
>No TES4Edit or similar tools to remove conflicts
Yes, the PC is in no way superior to the console versions in any way shape or form. You aren't some kind of right-wing bigot are you?
>PC pride is bigoted and right wing
IT BEGINS
>>341784618
yes
iirc there's an end user agreement on the console modding platform saying you beth is not responsible if you brick or fuck up your saves
>>341781181
>Hiding identities
You took this from reddit, didn't you?
Trump mods when? I want to build walls in the wasteland
>>341784602
It still happened, sort of. It only got big when there was a serious new place to get mods. When they did paid mods on Steam, mod theft was big. Now they have console mods on beth.net, and it's big again.
>>341784695
What about normal people? PC users and console users who don't feel entitled to everything.
>>341784602
By being ban happy and publicly posting it for everyone to see. Granted, some of the banned members are hilarious. Like this guy; https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/395881-lord-slyther-banned/
>Oh and you want an attitude problem? I'LL SHOW YOU A BIG F**KING ATTITUDE PROBLEM!! WHO THE F**K DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!? WHO ARE YOU TO TARGET SOMEONE AND ADMIRABLY PASS JURISDICTION?!? To clarify, you don't own this site. The only individual that owns these family of sites is Dark0ne, and the decisions of judgment are ultimately up to him. I'm not real life friends with him or anything, but I hope one day he'll see your acts of corruption, and f**king strip you of service from the mod team. And when your badge is on the floor, I WILL STOMP ON IT AND SMASH IT!!! I like to express how much I f**king hate you now, and I have my solid reasons for it.
>I hope you're f**king proud of yourself, because one day, the greater justice will hunt you down, and you will answer for your crimes. When you go to heaven one day, and God asks "Why did you do all this?", YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, AND YOU WILL BE SENT TO THE DARK PITS OF HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!
>>341784839 + no quality control from Bethesda
Oh boy. I'm sure someone ia gonna have some fun with this
>>341784618
Some other anon is currently building a mod just for that purpose.
>>341785041
>What about normal people?
normal people wouldn't read that wall of verbal diarrhea. I know I didn't
>>341777864
>If you think PC is a superior platform and act like a baby about it you're a bad person
...ok? Why did they feel the need to make this announcement?
>>341777864
Did anyone actually read the entire post? It was pretty good to be honest.
>>341785135
We're not talking about what OP linked. We're talking about what >>341780262 said.
>>341780294
The diff is we get mods the consoles can't handle.
Let's say a mod comes out to put skills back into the game.
It WILL require Script Extender
Consoles won't get it.
>>341783582
>i stole this mod because i was mad
>he's a garbage person who makes good content
>i altered it to try and fix it
>if it breaks your save file just blame the original author
why does anyone take consolefriends seriously?
>>341784839
So, could you, theoretically of course, have an angry person brick hundreds of consoles out of spite?
Theoretically of course. Please note, by me asking this, I have actually no skills required to do this, but it's still interesting.
>>341785243
tl;dr
honestly this entire issue is only interesting enough to read the shiposts about on /v/, and not much more
>>341784618
If you had a mod popular with console users, why would you suddenly punish them for liking your mod?
If you're just a vindictive asshole you probably don't have enough talent to make a good mod anyway.
>>341777864
How are they wrong? What's bad about consoles being able to download mods?
Are you retarded?
>>341781181
>You're
>>341785316
>We're not talking about what OP linked
This should be a banner
>>341785351
>>341785108
it's already in the pipe
>>341785108
God speed, anon. God speed.
>>341785413
The post is about consoles users being butthurt they can't use mods that literally cannot ever work on consoles and other consoles users stealing mods they didn't make and uploading them onto bethesda.net.
>>341784839
the game makes a backup of your saves every time you install mods, and while I wouldn't rule out bricking, it seems fairly unlikely.
A mod might crash the game, sure, but the damage it can actually do is minimal
>>341783992
So no good mods can be on console.
>>341785380
More like I'm worried about vindictive people who would do it out of spite. I have no specific need to do it, but.. See >>341785108 they exist, friend.
>>341785351
I assume the mod would be taken down fast and the theoretical modder would be banned. Theoretically you would need an organized group for that.
>>341784934
Why don't you check the filename, you retard.
This image has been circulating /v/ for at least a few days.
>>341785108
truly the hero we need
>>341784618
Possibly. You'd need a dedicated group working on it to find an exploit. It would be easier to make something break saves.
>>341785626
I'm not refusing to admit vindictive people don't exist. I'm on 4chan, after all.
I'm saying if your primary purpose is to brick consoles, good luck getting it to lots of users.
lazy freeloadin console-adians
>Only PC players can create mods
>(Some) Console users act like they have a right to play said mods because Todd said so
Also;
>PC user tests his mod, it works fine, put's it on Bethsda.net for console users
>Console users says the mod doesn't work correctly for consoles
>Author who only has a PC can do absolutely zero bug-testing to see where the problem is/what's the cause
Console modding is a novelty, and not even a very good one.
>>341783726
show me one instance of this happening
>>341777864
Stop. Time-out, Zack Morris style. I need to address this issue. If that upset you. If the very thought of mods on consoles upsets you. Stop reading. Infact, just leave the site. You’re very likely to be a douche and an endemic problem within the PC gaming community. There is nothing wrong with the concept of mods being available on consoles.
There is.
"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
And considering that Bethesda/Zenimax did try to make paid mods a thing...
The end is nigh.
>>341785741
>A reddit-tier image has been circulating /v/ for a few days
>Therefore it's not reddit-tier
kys
>>341785704
>bethesda moderating content
i don't think you're following the issues here.
>>341785108
I don't have anything against console users but this is hilarious. Reminds me of the old day.
>>341785704
>>341785769
>>341785786
Don't people have control over comments? What about releasing a mod which is 100% legit, then breaking the limiter in an 'update' which then bricks the console on 1000's+ of at the moment happy people... Then the modder goes
>Ooops, sorry folks! I made this on my PC using PC hardware, guess consoles can't cope with it after all!
>>341784818
>Wrye Bash
>mfw still don't know what this shit is so many years later
I just install mods
>>341781619
>Remember the shitstorm when Mount and Blade was getting ported to consoles?
>calling this a shitstorm
>>341786093
the console wouldn't get bricked you moron. At most you'd crash the game.
Barring some currently unknown exploit, of course.
>>341781871
Remember when we used to get free map packs and expansion packs.then bethesda came with the great idea known as dlc.
>>341786212
The guy said it could be possible to create a mod which causes the heatsink to overheat and melt. That would brick the console, anon.
>>341785902 See >>341783582, and there are dozens of these things.
>>341784717
>90% of the mods are lore breaking
only if you're a fucking retard that downloads as many thomas the train engins xd mods as possible
>>341784824
>Ontario licence plate
>>341783162
Because consoles ruined video games.
>not toasting poor faggots consoles with mods
>>341786093
I'd make it on a semi-random timer instead. Updates would be too obvious, and you'd need to rely on word not spreading before people update. Random failures would just make it look like mods are unreliable on consoles. Everyone failing at once would make it look like you did it.
>>341786412
That seems unlikely.
>>341786412
That guy's talking out of his ass. You don't have that kind of control over the console at that level.
>>341786171
It's a mod manager iirc, I used it back when I played Oblivion but it's been a while
>>341777864
I'm perfectly fine with consoles having mods, more power to them, but there's limits to what kind of mods console can support and in some cases it could be a lot more work to port a mod to console.
>>341779616
>drm for mods
go back to the mental asylum u retarded mongoloid
>>341781773
because Modders (also Nexus owners) want to get paid, retards earned gazzilions by porting Newgrounds games to smartphones,
now its time for modders to earn hueg $$$ by porting mods to consoles..
Some shit you just cant sell to owners of a PC(but some shit you can even shit out)
>>341786412
not possible, the console would autoshutdown long before that could happen
So PC are the defenders of humanity, and consoles are the dumb niggers nobody wants near them?
>>341782220
That would have been so much better than the route they went.
>>341786171
it's a mod manager. Most people use it nowadays for the bashed patch, which fixes conflicts between mods that interact with the same item slots.
>>341786417
so where's the proof about the original mod getting down voted into oblivion
>>341784198
I never made mods and have ad blocker
most people are the same way. fuck off faggot
>>341786771
>go back to the mental asylum u retarded mongoloid
random comment
> I'd like to ask, what is your opinion on the prospect of "Mod-DRM" and the likes, as it has been discussed among mod authors lately?
Nexus guy
>I honestly see no problem with inserting hidden scripts in to mods, that only trigger if the mod is used on a console, that informs users that the mod has been stolen and uploaded to Bethesda.net without permission (and to perhaps please report the mod).
>I'm obviously not in favour of any form of DRM that would ultimately damage a console player, his console or his save game.
>>341786212
Shut up that doesn't fit my 1337 hacker fantasy. *Theoretically* I am going to release a mod that has an epic virus that will make those babys' consoles burst into the devil's flames in order to teach the the true meaning of SATANIC ANARCHY. And I'll do it Anonymously, of course. They'll never be able to find me amongst the Legion.
NEVER FOGRIVE
NEVER FOGRET
WE ARE COMING FOR YOU
>>341786705
What he was struggling to say was that he'd have a mod that overworks the console so that it overheats. You don't need control, but the console won't let it happen.
>>341777864
The creators of these mods have the right to dictate what platforms it can be used on. Anyone who says otherwise is infact in the wrong.
If someone doesn't want their mod on console then you respect that or you fuck off. You didn't make the mod, you have no say in this at all.
Didn't someone bring it to attention that people were making mods that couldn't be ran on consoles just for the sake of them not being able to be ran on consoles?
Like adding some kinda code to it so it wouldn't run off of PC?
Quick and somewhat related question
is the PC version of skyrim 2 going to cause mod Armageddon? It's not a forced patch which is nice I guess but I can see all sorts of issues arising from the possible upgrade
>>341783582
wait ddproductions? that guy is pretty fucking chill
>>341784190
>That's merely a meme created by the console shitters
>this thread has dozens of PC babbies shitting themselves right now
>>341787072
I'm pretty sure that you can just force your mods to "use" that script extender thingy that doesn't run on consoles.
>>341787013
right, you're clearly a right winged bigot
>>341782167
It really isn't
>>341777864
>Nexus Mods Goes Full Shill/Damage Control for Bethesda
How about they go full HTML5 and get a site that doesn't load up like it's partially stuck in dial up?
>>341786412
>silicone would get so hot it would melt what i assume is an aluminum heatsink
>the console wouldn't be bricked at half that temperature
you realize aluminum melts at like 600 C right?
>>341787217
I don't even know what that means. I'm pretty dumb anon. Explain it to me in words I can understand.
>>341777864
it's not that i think consoles shouldn't be allowed to have mods it's just that you wouldn't think to allow or disallow a dog to run for president
>>341777864
Just another reminder that anti-PC Master Race can't handle banter.
>>341787327
you support trump
>write a script loop in your mod
>console shits itself
Salt farming was never easier.
>>341787384
I'm not even American.
>>341781412
Shut up Sonyfag, no one here is bashing you. You aren't the faggots who ruined console modding
It's the fucking Xboxfags
>posted by dark0ne
well that's no surprise.
>>341777864
what's the op about even
the mods aren't paid on consoles are they? and they're free on pc. They're not really shilling.
Mods on consoles doesn't really effect pc at all
Are we just making fun of the nerds arguing about it
>>341787482
so?
>>341787518
Well it is his website.
>>341787545
So how can I support the next president of the USA?
>>341780563
This really should be the biggest point of the thread.
>>341787631
the same way hitler had supporters in britain
>>341783764
What if more people start running with it
>you were born just in time to watch console war shut posting bleed into politics
>>341777864
It doesn't matter if PCucks don't want mods to appear on consoles, because they are going to either way. No amount of kicking and screaming will change this. Get over it.
>>341787769
the people who make the mods have every say in the matter
>>341787258
>In English the word "bigot" refers to a prejudiced, closed-minded person who is intolerant or hateful toward people of a different group
How is it not?
>>341787769
most mods wont work on a console
>>341783289
They're just trying to stir up non existant drama
>>341785108
Karma.
>>341785108
How about some mod which corrupts the savegame or overheats the console due to being demanding?
They argue it like retards, but they're not wrong.
There's literally no harm done by having mods be available for consoles.
>>341785108
THE HERO WE TRULY NEED
>>341782298
Golly gee mister.
You have a point! It's not like they give us a fucking program to mod their games!
>>341787897
>people of a different group
Consoles and PCs are inanimate objects
It's about money. Thats all there is to it. Remember that pay mods shit on steam?
>>341778674
Pretty much this.
Shit PC kiddies being mad that consoles have mod support are just that, shit kiddies.
The modding community are also a bunch of whiny fucking entitled cunts as well.
They are as bad as those developers from Japanese porn games that do everything in their power to prevent foreign people from playing their games using "anti gaijin puzzles".
Or 3D modellers making 3D models for shit like MikuMikuDance making it impossible for people to get their models, or edit them, or "refuse to make more models if people make porn of them".
It even includes the Linux community.
You want to know why Linux is not a desktop OS? Fucking sperglord autistic cunts that hate making an interface intuitive and useful. Shit like that breeds Unity and GIMP, creates shit like systemD and other fucktarded things.
"What's that? Every other OS does this one thing? FUCK THAT, WE'LL DO IT DIFFERENT. #uniquesnowflake"
Fuck them.
The whole "ORIGINAL CONTENT PLS NO STEAL" mentality is poison in the creativity community.
It is notoriously AWFUL in the game modding community.
tl;dr modders, console whiners and PC whiners are ALL equally faggots in this.
Elitist faggots ruin everything. Fuck all of them.
>>341788082
Don't you think that all the shit that has been happening is the harm that has been done?
Maybe bigot, but right wing is just there to demonize the right. This is legit hate speech
>2gb limit
So basically consoles arerelegated to cosmetic mods. That's sad.
people who say "pc master race" are basically white supremacists, the type who non-ironically support trump and use racial slurs on 4chan(dont even try to deny it. the Nexus post on the matter is pretty spot on actually
>>341785108
>WE DID IT /B/!!! TOP KEKS!
>>341785498
>>341785751
>>341788139
>Whoopee! I want other people's stuff to break because I'm a bitter manchild who can't stand it when others get to enjoy things too! xD
>>341788186
Their respective fanbases are made up of two different groups of people you retarded faggot.
>>341788385
who are you quoting?
>>341788243
>"anti gaijin puzzles".
It's fucking nothing. If you can't read enough Japanese to solve them, you can't read the game.
>>341788521
So idorts are halfcastes?
>>341777864
I read it, he makes a lot of valid criticisms, especially towards Bethesda and stealing mods. Bethesda really dropped the ball on their whole modding site and the way they've been handling things.
>>341777864
>There is nothing wrong with the concept of mods being available on consoles.
So consoles can have horse cocks and loli mods now? Huh? HUH??? Fucking hypocritical twat.
>>341782337
>>341781901
>five fucking thousand words of complaining about Fallout mods with "clever" political references which are being succesfully summarized here to one post
>wow why aren't people reading this, I thought everyone here was NEET faith in humany lost lol
>>341788385
Are you implying that the ignorant masses - who choose to piss and holler at mod authors because their mod will not work on consoles - being played is a bad thing?
>>341788243
Is this sum new pasta?
>>341788351
There is no point in insulting other races when disgusting tripfags like you are allowed to live
>>341788186
We are talking about pc gamers and console gamers. Those are groups of people
>>341777864
These fools act like they are the only mod bastion in the internet, the chosen ones, the only people who are allowed to gather and put their work on display.
There will be people who disagree with them and they'll just move on to another website, Moddb or something new, and restart the cycle.
>>341788351
If tripfag is a race, it's time for a new holocaust
>>341788521
Nice insults.
Bigot really does not apply here as this has nothing to do with being hateful, intolerant or discriminatory.
>ddproductions successfully made a mod that can brick xbones
oh lawdy
>>341788460
More like
>I want other people's stuff to break period
>>341787897
It is mostly applicable to the console community and DarkOne himself.
For some reason, those who spout "bigot" and the whole bouquet of similar words and meanings, are the very same ones to whom these very words and meanings apply.
And this DarkOne seems to be a prejudiced hipocrite himself.
>You need to separate your thinking between “mods on consoles are bad for whatever reason”, which is stupid, and “mods on console are bad due to how it’s affecting the PC modding community”, which can be justified. If you argue the former, then you, sir, are a douche. If you argue the latter, cohesively and without any reference to PC superiority, you’re doing it right.
>“mods on consoles are bad for whatever reason” - which is stupid
>“mods on console are bad due to how it’s affecting the PC modding community”
>if you say the former - you are a douche
>if you say the latter - you are OK
Forgive my misunderstanding if i have one, but there is no difference between the two, appart from further elaboration as to why, which can be given for any reason applied.
Besides, all he is concerned is community and mod copyright, not the direction, quality, long term effect, or the scope of the issue.
>muh community
>muh copyrights
There is more to the whole affair than that.
>>341777864
OP carefully omitted some parts of the article such as:
>There’s obvious noticeable reasons why it’s really not good, and a lot of this stems from Bethesda’s focus on the console modding side of things.
>Which brings us to the main point of this article; the effect of console mods and Bethesda’s ignorance towards its existing modding community.
>PCs are more powerful and more customisable than their console equivalents
>There is a major problem if mods on consoles seriously affects the PC modding side of things, or is detrimental in any way to PC mods
>mods on console are bad due to how it’s affecting the PC modding community
>As the flood-gates opened, it became increasingly obvious that users could just come to the Nexus or indeed the PC section of Bethesda.net, download another author’s mod, open up the Creation Kit and upload the file to the XBox One section, with or without that author’s permission.
>>341777864
No one bitched about consoles having mods
they bitched about console users stealing PC mods and putting it up on bethesdanet without their permission
>Game developers can choose whether to release their games on consoles or pc or both
>Modders can't choose whether they want their mods available on consoles or not
???
> stealing mods
> mods are free
What's being lost here? Let the console folks "steal" the mods and when thier shitbox system blows up you can laugh.
P.S. Yes I've made mods for these games and could give a shit if some pleb steals them for use on a console.
>>341777864
How the fuck does it have anything to do with being 'extreme right'?
>>341787110
>ddproductions
>That feel when he hid all his mods
>>341788992
>he announced it
Fucking idiot.
>>341788351
I think you're on the wrong site.
>>341788351
>conflating console wars and racism
>Trump namedrop
>going against /v/'s opinion AND explicitly siding with the subject of scorn
>trip
I guess I'll give this a 4/10. It's pretty rough around the edges, but it could really be something if you embellish a little further. Maybe next thread.
>>341789076
You can easily render a mod useless for consoles though. Just add some bullshit dependencies.
If thr mod can work on console then upload it for consoles
I don't really understand all the outrage, compared to the threat of shekelized mods that still looms on the horizon this seems really petty.
>>341786451
Ottawa police cruisers were decorated like that during the Ottawa Gay Pride Parade.
>>341789101
Its still illegal to steal someone's work without their permission
>>341788621
It's not the fact that they are easy or not, it is the fact that devs go to the pointless effort in doing it. Such amazing lengths just to spite anyone not in their little secret club.
The whole "fuck everyone but my little club of epic friends" mentality is the issue.
There are developers of content (3D, games, music and others) that quite literally make it HARD for you to even buy their content.
They are gimping their own sales just because they have some abstract hatred of "people".
Shits regular with 3D modelling and porn where people will simply not allow you to get their content unless you subscribe to them on some obscure website.
Not even buy, just subscribe. Completely free content. Nope, gotta jump through a thousand and one hoops.
Go check the MMD threads in /e/ to see the pure seething hatred of MMD modellers have for people, they do everything under the sun to prevent people getting their models.
Fucking weird cunts so they are.
I have no idea why someone wouldn't want their content to be seen by as many people possible. (ESPECIALLY if it is free in the first place!)
Sounds to me like somebody got a check from Todd.
>>341789501
Then you (like OP and most of the people in this thread) didn't read the fucking article.
>>341783289
>266mhz
Fucking poorfag, 450mhz master race.
>>341781737
>Using Wrye Bash instead of Mod Organizer
KeK
If PC is so great why they didn't create a PC2?
>>341777864
That is one huge rant. Do they not understand the concept of sectioning their topics?
What a glorious time to insert lots of dummy f4se scripts into mods.
Not like the niggers stealing them for consoles know how to scrub that shit.
>>341789417
But how can you steal a free item built with proprietary tools the creator doesn't own? The best you can do is ask for credit if it's used elsewhere
Who gives a fuck about any of this boring fag shit?
>>341789807
They didn't even tackle the issue of console users stealing mods which was the ONLY issue. No one had a problem with mods on consoles
JUST CHECK THE BOX
>>341789418
>I have no idea why someone wouldn't want their content to be seen by as many people possible.
Because those who will use it might give credit not to the maker but to the party that did not have anything to do with a mod?
>ESPECIALLY if it is free in the first place!
Because we live in a world where some dipshit will try not only to take the credit, but also monetise on it?
Why do mod makers care if console babies upload their mods to bethesda.net? Who cares
>>341789830
The creator owns the content he creates. The mod tools are provided as is.
If a software developer uses Notepad++ or some shit to write a script or a program for windows. Who owns the script? the writer? the creators of Notepad++ or Microsoft?
It doesn't matter, its his content, he has copyrights to it and if he doesn't give permission, you can't take it
>>341789687
IDK man, but Wrye Bash is better IMHO.
please check box you racist
>>341790008
Its literally stealing and is blatantly against the DMCA
>>341777864
And then he goes on to say that Bethesda botched the fuck out of it. Nice cherry picking faggot.
>>341790008
Half of them won't work on consoles
>>341790008
>why do people care if their work is stolen, misattributed and profited from?
No idea.
>>341790008
Because the content you worked hard on being released as MEGA MOD BY xXx420AnonCottonPicker420xXx ORIGINAL CONTENT DO NOT STEAL PLS DONATE is not such a cool thing?
Remember when Steam tried their hand at monetizing Skyrim mods and how much shit was outright stolen? That's why.
>>341790008
Because thousands of console babies shout and cry to them when the mods doesn't work or break their mods
PC users can troubleshoot their own things, most of the time. Console users can't.
>>341790076
>You're mod says PC only
>100+ matches
The fact that he pasted that grammatical on all those pages is the most insulting part.
>lol
>>341790076
Never should have enabled mods for a consumer base too stupid to realize things might have dependencies that will never exist for their platform.
But hey, not like Todd is the brightest bulb.
sounds pretty retarded over the top but it's right, who gives a shit if consoles get mods.
>>341790319
>*grammatical mistake
I'm tired.
>>341790076
Fuck I hope they ban this retard.
>>341781901
I don't even fully read my college papers, let alone a 5k word rant of a guy named Dark0ne
>>341777864
test
>>341777864
Consoles get mods? Good for them. I wish I had them before I moved to pc. However, that article is poorly written and incredibly childish.
>>341787632
Dark0ne is incredibly reasonable and generous. Ask anyone about TheVampireDante and then you'll have some REAL cringe/rage worthy shit.
>>341790450
Missing the point. The idiot was ranting at a nonexistent boogeyman
>>341790708
the consoles have artificial limits
you can't install more than 2gb on xboxone and the low res textures means there are no "high res" anything.
>>341789418
>little secret club.
You are just sooooo mad that you're not being let in. More mad than they'd ever be if someone played their exclusive content.
>I have no idea why someone wouldn't want their content to be seen by as many people possible.
Because you're retarded and have never made or maintained anything popular ever. Do you see what happens to communities as they let in large unfiltered amounts of idiots from anywhere? Do you see what happens to people who make "objectionable" content? Of course you haven't because you're inexperienced and are completely talking out of your entitled gibsmedat ass.
Don't you have a thread to go beg for source in?
>>341782190
>>341790116
Actually caring that your mod was stolen is autism if there is no actual profit from it
>>341789417
Who fucking cares. This is literal autism
>>341790846
>artificial
The shitboxes are already bricking up under some stolen mods that were never intended for them. Nothing artificial about that.
I don't get it. Since when do consoles have mods?
>>341790932
Mind if I take credit for all the work you do? Who am I kidding, you're some underage little shit or a NEET anyways.
>>341791128
Since Todd smoked a tad too much crack during FO4 development.
>>341790932
>Actually caring that your mod was stolen is autism if there is no actual profit from it
No its not, you don't have an argument beyond "hurr ur autistic"
Its illegal to steal someones work without their permission even if their stuff is free.
>>341791069
The mod makers care, its stealing his work.
>>341790846
>Artificial limit
We have no idea how the Xbone does memory management, loose files, whatever.
I doubt they put that limit in just for funsies.
>>341780563
>Joined: 2003
He made that account when he was 17. He's 30 now. I'd cut him some slack in the "bad username" department.
>>341791083
>>341791254
Microsoft won't let you install more than 2048mb worth of mods
>>341790932
>Who the fuck cares ff people steal your car if they arent going to make money selling it? xD
>>341791353
Does your dad work for Microsoft?
I don't understand these people
>>341791427
If you're on XboxOne and you install mods, the console won't let you install more than 2gb for what ever reason
>>341777864
>if you disagree with my point of view you are the evil extreme right
Jesus fuck this is dumb.
>>341791353
That doesn't make shit artificial. Do you know how the shitbox handles memory management? How it deals with paging when it runs out of actual memory? How much paging it can handle before catching on fire?
>>341791471
>for what ever reason
For the reasons explained here >>341791254.
>>341791240
I couldnt give 2 fucks if someone stole my mod if there is no profit being made.
>>341777864
He is right.
But i'll still consider anyone who buys consoles to be a mouthbreathing luddite that is too dense to see anything beyond the immediate surface.
This kind of person probably thinks companies are friends and completely fails to notice the anti-consumerist practices and general scams they've been pulling for years, not to mention the fact that consoles are fundamentally prejudicial to consumers and the industry as a cultural medium.
>>341791548
Obviously you don't but other content creators do.
>>341791412
Your comparison makes no sense. Absolutely none.
Mods on consoles is a godsend
It'll make for a wonderful vector for exploits
>>341791412
False equivalence
>>341791468
>Reply | Edit
>>341791548
Why do you care? It's his profit, not yours. Quit the autism on something you had no part in.
>>341791468
Shooting these people should be legal.
>>341784198
You are free not to make mods for consoles, but who are you to tell everyone not to do that? Are you a PC Gaming Authority or something? Fuck off.
If a console baby credits the author when reuploading there should be almost no problem
What's funny is that the majority of you shitheads bashing console users for "stealing" mods from Nexus most likely are perfectly okay with piracy. Bunch of hypocrites.
Each side of this issue 8s being severly autistic
>>341789101
It's not about "THOSE DIRTY CONSOLE PLEBS ARE PLAYING MY MODS ON A CONSOLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE", it's "Hey guys, here's my totally original and new mod that I totally didn't just download from the Nexus and reupload here for e-fame and the occasional donation. Donate, follow, and if my mod becomes one of the top files, I might just make another gigantic mod in two days! :^)"
As Console Modding becomes a thing, people have the chance to fool millions of people into thinking that they are Trainwiz.
>>341791757
>almost
That's a pretty big 'almost'. You can't legally upload jack shit without the creators consent.
>>341791649
Yes anon, Kira is me, what's your point?
>>341791780
>Nexus most likely are perfectly okay with piracy. Bunch of hypocrites.
No they aren't. Its the same issue with Steam's workshop. Theres tons of assholes stealing mods from nexus and putting them on steam workship without the creator's permission.
>>341791780
who wouldn't download a car or a bear ? hypocrite
>>341791069
>>341790932
This, getting mad over the free shit you made being distributed all over this place is stupid.
Who /PCdeathsquad/ here?
>>341791780
Nope. Nexus community takes its anti-piracy stance to an almost ridiculous extreme.
What does being "right wing" have to do with anything?
>>341791968
>stealing is ok if its free
stealing is never ok. Stealing someone's work for your own gain is never legal and never ok.
>>341788853
the nexus has always been like that
the admins are massive faggots, thankfully the nexus is only a necessary hub for shit games like bethesda titles
>>341791917
Autism
>>341792125
>you're autistic because you're upholding the law in your favor
>>341792075
Because being right wing means that you don't want your shit being re distributed to the lower class.
Now for a clever modder to make his mods brick consoles
>>341792125
Mind handing over your paycheck along with the credit for your work, bud?
>>341777864
Mods on consoles doesn't affect me in the slightest.
At worst, developers pay more attention to consoles and make slightly worse games. Sadly this was already happening and mods aren't going to change that.
Guess what a guy on a console can do with a mod? Take it. Use it.
The difference there is if I don't like a mod, but it's pretty good? I can just change it to suit my needs. After all it's a mod. Good luck with that on a console.
>>341791948
I would suggest taking reading comprehension 101 class next semester
>>341792075
It's a neat method to demonize and silence your opponent.
>If you aren't on our side, you're with the terrorists/jews/right wingers/trump
>>341792125
>intellectual property is autism
>>341777864
Also if Nexus could go ahead and die I think we'd all appreciate that a great deal. They have a shitty service that works because they're the biggest.
>>341792212
Far sweeter to just make it reliant on f4se.
>>341792080
Autism >>341792193
>upholding
Yeah you're taking things extremely seriously. Almost as bad as people who think piracy is a massive crime
>>341792213
Sure, I'm not an autist
>>341792080
That's just it, there is no gain because it's Frrreeeeeee.
If anything the mod gets a wider audience.
What if le mod author is dead and cant reupload can i then?
>>341792205
But my country extreme right wing are borderline communist.
>>341792284
>If you aren't on our side, you're with trump and the right wingers
i wonder when this became a bad thing
>>341778674
This. For all the supposed benefits of pc gaming, you would think that pc gamers would be happy when console makers embrace that ideology. Pro consumer, they said. More user control, they said.
>>341792381
>No guys, stealing people's work and posting it for your own gain is totally fine, you're just autistic
>its illegal and I have copyright on my work
>hurr ur autistic
It literally doesn't matter. Stop being whiny as fuck guys come on now.
>>341792462
Don't care. Don't have the author's permission? you're not allowed to take it
>extreme right
>bigot
What did he mean by this?
>>341792462
If you're a full time modder who relies on donations to keep creating complex content, you're fucked if some console peasant takes the credit for you. That does not count as a 'wider audience'.
>>341792574
>people's content being stolen doesn't matter
>>341792579
Doesnt make it right, but caring about it so much is legit autism
>>341792490
Dark0ne's a huge Berniefag. It got leaked a while ago that he used money from donations that could've kept the Nexus running for about 3 years and donated it to Sanders' campaign.
>>341792485
Well the only country that matters is the U S A
>>341792734
Especially if you uave zero(0) profit to make
>>341792734
>caring about your work being plagiarized is autism
>>341792737
You're going to have to source up a claim like that my friendo. I refuse to believe.Please be lying. I've donated to Nexus.
>>341792737
Kek. He must be really proud of how he used that money now that Hillary won
>>341792851
Talking about writing? Thats a false equivalence and also relies on context
>>341792839
>people whose scripts and codes stolen off of github doesn't matter because its free and you're autistic if you give a fuck about people plagiarizing your work
>people who steal your mods you created and put them on another site and claimed they made it doesn't matter because its free
>>341792737
>burning money
at least it was for a good purpose, right?
>normies and retards paying 600% markup on "mods" that have no guarantee of quality or support
Good. Console and mobile gaming will always be the home for morally bereft developers who have no problem taking money from people who don't know any better.
>>341792862
It was a Reddit post that was quickly deleted. /tesg/ undoubtedly got screencaps so ask there.
>>341792737
Isn't he British? Why would he care about the US Election?
holy fuck lmao, pccucks have NOTHING now
>>341790076
>You're Mod says PC only...
Maybe because it is? Hurr durr Beth check mark will make everything work lol. Are these the same fucks who fell for the """""Supercharged""""" PC meme?
>>341792990
Its the same shit
>Steal someone elses stuff
>claim you made it
thats literally plagiarism. plagiarism isn't limited to just writing
>>341793116
Try to tell them and see what happens >>341781181
>>341793095
PC has lots of mods people can't just open in CK and publish to Bethesda.net for their shitboxes though.
How's them sour grapes?
>>341777864
Kudos to Nexus for telling off the idiots.
The problem isn't that people "don't want consoles to get mods" because of some weird elitist attitude, "exclusives" are a console concept that does not exist on PC. This isn't like PS4 getting Halo, nobody fucking cares.
The issue is that modding, even using Nexus and Workshop and Mod Organizer and NMM and LOOT and a dozen methods to make it streamlined and easier, is very complex and very difficult, even for advanced users. Most of it is completely beyond even the average PC users, never mind console users who may never have had to deal with something like this before. Even with Nexus and Workshop most mods are not plug and play.
Getting things like HDT physics or animation sets or custom skeletons is a complex process that requires very specific steps, compatibility patches, dependencies, even on a PC these are time consuming and installation instructions must be followed to the letter, there's just no method to accomplish that on a console.
I recently installed Dual Sheath Redux for Skyrim which had HDT and FNIS dependencies and required a patcher to work that ran with Java. How would you do that on an Xbox? It's just not possible.
Then there are things like SKSE and other script extenders that just can't function on a console, mods that would dramatically surpass the memory and processing capabilities of the consoles and crash or tank the performance.
I think it was very, very unprofessional of Bethesda to promise mods to console players when they must have known that the vast majority of existing mods simply cannot function on them.
>>341793421
>I think it was very, very unprofessional of Bethesda
They don't give a fuck, they already made money hand over fist well in the knowledge that they'll keep coming back.
>>341791468
>Screenshotting and reposting your shit from another website
You're a bigger faggot that whoever wrote that essay.
DONT UPLOAD MY MODS ON MEGA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341793421
>is very complex and very difficult, even for advanced users.
I'm not sure if I'm in the deep end here or you're greatly exaggerating the case but most bethesda mods are click subscribe and you are done.
>>341793313
>falling for low level false flagging
>>341793421
Everything you said is common sense.
Except for implying that the vast majority require PC-exclusive tools. They don't. You have a specific group of very important mods that do, but in the sense of the basic creation kit made mod, it's just armours and quests and houses and shit.
>>341777864
>play skyrim for the first time
>OH SHIT TIME FOR MOOOOOOODDDDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>have to set up and read a bunch of over complicated shit to get them working finally
>the only mods worth a damn are the bug fixes and menu fixes
Mods are overrated. Console turds can have them.
>>341778674
yes they are fucking right because most PC mods require script extenders
no one cared about mods on consoles until xbox players started stealing mods and putting them up on the bethesda site because the modder won't (because they can't, as it requires script extenders)
>>341793735
>falling for
>>341777864
>grow the hell up
>when 99% of nexus mods are bimbo mods
>>341779698
They aren't.
The majority of bitching is about people taking PC mods that weren't designed for consoles, re-uploading them on Bethesda's site, and players corrupting their data or breaking their game with them.
The players then blame the original mod maker.
>>341793894
>for
>>341777864
Time to make a new mod site.
>>341791468
GTFO U NAZI!!44!4!
>>341782886
>not knowing most weebs are just neo nazis in the making
>>341784198
>Because it's the PC community that made them
If you use mods but have never made mods for all of said games you can fuck off
>>341788947
it has literally everything to do with each of those 3 things
>>341793421
This. If you heavily mod Skyrim it can push an i5 / 700 series GTX card / 8 GB RAM setup pretty damn hard. How the fuck is the XB1 / PS4 going to handle more than a few texture mods? This seems like the first step in their plans to re-introduce the "Paid Mods" scheme. I know A LOT of my normie friends who are dumb enough to pay $10 for mods like 'Wet and Cold'. Bethesda knows that and they WILL try to cash in on normiebux.
>>341777864
there is literally nothing wrong with mods on consoles
the problem is that consolecucks are stealing PC mods and uploading them on bethnet
>>341793075
He is british and he lives just outside of London. Slough or Reading.
>>341782907
You can't "fix" it. If it needs the script extender, it requires things not provided by the base game. It'd be like trying to "fix" the original starfox to run without the superFX chip.
>>341794065
>>341793421
shut up you nerds and just check the box
Why are PCfags so insecure? You're like jehova's witnesses, stop bumping each of these threads with the same stale arguments every fucking time
>>341783982
Not anymore
I told you guys a week ago that the modding situation was about to become dramatic and mods would be taken offline.
It's not too late to download them. Do it now.
>TFW you constantly post PCMR shit everywhere you can to rustle jimmies
>TFW your comment gets dozens of replies about you're all that's wrong with PC gaming
God I love the internet. What did NEETs do all day before they could trigger normies online?
>>341794167
That isn't really a problem. Console players are just as entitled to the mods as the PC players. They are identical customers.
The theft and reupload is bad yeah, but it's only an issue because the infrastructure allows children to arbitrarily exclude part of the audience.
>>341794321
>the same stale arguments
The very same stale arguments console peasants seem too fucking stupid to understand.
Best of luck getting an executable file injector to work on your shitbox in the future.
PC IS DEAD
>>341793854
Frostfall (& Campfire), Realistic Needs & Diseases, Morrowloot.
Get something like Duel that bumps up combat AI and a mod that tweaks weapon and armor values so it's less spongey.
Get a couple companions to help deal with AI that will now flank. IMO Hoth, Sofia, Inigo, and Vilja are the best ones, so take your pick. Inigo and Vilja have banter meant specifically for each other, so if you pick one might as well pick the other.
There you go for essentials. To my knowledge all you need for all that is the unofficial patches (which you already have), SkyUI (which it sounds like you already have), and SKSE, which if you don't, you should have anyway.
>>341777864
>I didn't read the article: the post
>>341777864
they're right tho
but you know, making mods for pc is way easier
even more if you have mods that improve the performance of the game
Bethesda never thinked about those kind of mods that aren't compatible with the console games
they're fucking morons
Console mods is bad because it's gonna end in monetization
>being a PC elitist
>extreme right teenie bopper
ehhhhh???
>>341794565
Why are you so obsessed with children's creations? You have some serious pedo vibes going on.
Is the person writing this intentionally lampooning retarded fucking SJWs or did this retard unironically use the terms "right side" and "bigot" referring to people's fucking preference for gaming?
>>341777864
>IT IS NOW BIGOTRY TO POINT OUT THAT PCS CAN RUN SOME MODS THAT CONSOLES CANT
CHECK
YOUR
PRIVILEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE
YOU PC ANTI-PC SHITLORDS
>>341794576
No one is too stupid to understand anything here, retard. It's obvious you're really insecure and have inferiority complex.
Protip, you're not intelligent for assembling a PC like a lego set and you're not cutting edge for installing mods.
Your post is exactly why you're so obnoxious, you're constantly trying to sound smug and convert people. You're not in a secret club and hold nothing special
>>341794948
>WHY NOT TICK THE BOXXXXX - the post.
>>341794782
Very clever riposte my good friend.
>>341794948
Holy shit kill yourself and leave this place you underage faggot.
>>341782167
I'm sorry your race of "Console plebeian" was offended.
IT'S NOT LIKE
YOU COULD
YKNOW
CHANGE THAT OR ANYTHING
INSTEAD YOU ARE FORCED TO CALL PEOPLE BIGOTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MACHINE MEANT FOR MODS.
>>341777864
>“PC Master Race” (see: teenie bopper)
I'm pretty sure PC gamers are mostly people who played on Spectrum and Amiga and whatnot as highschoolers and older, and console gamers are kids who got their console for Christmas. How did they turn this around?
Are there any mods that change Mr house into Donald trump?
>>341794948
>he's mad enough to write that rant while carefully sidestepping the issue
make shitposting great again
>>341788782
There is literally no separation between the two besides which inanimate object they own. Nothing is preventing them from owning one, or even both of those.
Trying to play this like someone has slighted your race or sexual orientation as if you just had the word "nigger" yelled at your face point-blank makes both you and the autists at nexusmods look like whiny little teenagers.
>>341795283
You'll be hard pressed to find anyone giving a fuck about F3/NV anymore.
>>341795283
it would be more appropriate if the protagonist is donald
>>341795049
>>341794269
>check the box
What the hell am I reading here?
Speaking of PCs, would the new amd 480 be a big upgrade to a 780 ti? can't afford another meme ti card since figure hording
How "alive" is the FO4 mod scene, anyway? The game released and people stopped talking about it in less than a week. On the other hand, people are still making mods for New Vegas and we have almost daily New Vegas threads on here.
>>341792673
>full time modder
>living on donations
If that's what you're doing you should just get an actual job, instead of living off the scraps people give you.
Tell me 1 good reason why you would ever play bethesda games on the consoles
>>341794948
>no you don't understand, just check the box
>what do you mean it will destroy my console, you're just insecure
>>341794565
console users often blatantly steal mods that either require third party tools to function, or steal mods that the mod author is currently working on porting
when those mods break the save games of the users, they go to the original mod author's page and spam it
it's an issue because bethnet has no way to prove that you're the original author
you can download a mod that is guaranteed to wreck consoles and click "upload to bethnet"
this has zero repercussions for the uploader, and the original author gets hate
What exactly is the issue here?
Is the article simply about PC vs. console (because that's what OP makes it seem like it is)?
>>341795554
too dumb to stick cables into slots
>>341795498
we're telling you to check the box you bigoted pcmr elitist shitlord
>>341795498
Console owners legit believe that mods that can never work on their consoles due to walled off garden with zero code injection won't magically work if you tick the PS4/Xbox One checkboxes on bethesda.net.
>>341795530
Never said I did, there are plenty of people who make their living doing just that though.
>>341795521
It's a little faster than the New Vegas mod scene currently, slower than New Vegas's scene in its prime, and a fraction of the speed of Skyrim's at any point.
I'd say most likely outcome is it's going to slow down a lot after all the DLC is released and it's going to grind to a halt after the "remastered" version of Skyrim is released.
>>341795498
It's what console niggers think is all that's needed in order to port mods to the shitbox, part of the bethesda site.
>>341788243
>EVERYONE IS A WHINY ENTITLED FUCK
You don't seem to understand the problem here.
Modders make mods for a target platform of choice.
They have no obligation to make that mod work with other platforms.
They have no obligation to release the thing at all, but they do it anyway for their 'community'.
So, when another part of this community on another platform demands mods or else they'll call that modder a bigoted PCuck shit. What possible reason would they have to make their piece of software work with that platform?
It's just the entitlement of teenagers. Notice I didn't say 'consolefag' there? Because most people who buy the console versions weren't expecting mods at all. Just like with every other bethesda release: If you want mods, you get the PC version. This has been rule of law since fucking Morrowind.
I don't see Xbox original owners bitching that they never got those sick Morrowind mods. I don't see 360 owners bitching that they never got those slick Oblivion mods.
No, the only ones I see bitching about it are the teenagers on nexusmods and bethesda.org. People who are too young to have been around the last time a Bethesda game was released and this exact same cycle happened.
The only ones to blame for not having mod support on consoles is the ones who bought a console game and demanded mod support. Fox-and-the-grapes.
>>341795858
>>341795771
>>341795742
Console / mobile users vastly misunderstanding something yet again, got it. Thanks guys :)
>>341794565
>The theft and reupload is bad yeah, but it's only an issue because the infrastructure allows children to arbitrarily exclude part of the audience.
>arbitrarily.
I'm going to guess you're not very well-versed on this or you don't understand how modding for any bethesda game works.
Modding for bethesda games typically requires re-writing the scripting engine for the game or replacing core in-game files.
Those mods that do that? They won't work on a console. It requires special permissions which the userland of that console does not offer arbitrary code on its hard drive.
If the mod is just a skin or model-swap? Those will work just fine.
The problem is that Bethesda doesn't seem to understand how modding for their own games work.
So when they decreed 'MODS FOR ALL, EVERYONE GETS TO HAVE THEM'. They did not take even ten seconds downloading the most popular FO4 or Skyrim mods to see which ones would immediately break on a console version
They just did it.
And expected the community to clean up after them.
Fuck Bethesda and fuck the entitled shits who think they deserve people porting mods to their platform on the basis that bethesda said it was OK.
>>341785108
>extra energy on the console to run the extra capacity
Wanna know how I know this guy has no idea what he's talking about?
>>341795925
>They have no obligation to make that mod work with other platforms.
>They have no obligation to release the thing at all, but they do it anyway for their 'community'.
But I bought the game, so I'm entitled to those projects that are made and released completely voluntarily! They have no right to tell me that I can't use this thing they made for themselves!I have actually seen people say this unironically. I don't know if it's better or worse than "no you don't understand, just tick the box," I just know they're both pretty fucking infuriating.
>>341785108
That makes no fucking sense. Stupid fucking kids on this website.
>>341785108
This doesn't actually work.
The worse you can do to 'overload' a console is spawn millions of little worthless objects at a corner of the map and force them to be rendered at all times.
But guess what? If the console is properly ventilated, the worst it will do is shut down.
>>341796391
Considering how "optimized" bethesda games are, it should be possible to create heavy scripts that could cause consoles to grind to a halt.
The guy who posted that don't even understand language though.
>>341796262
>Modding for bethesda games typically requires re-writing the scripting engine for the game or replacing core in-game files.
You don't understand how Bethesda's games work either. None of the original files are being replaced.
And Bethesda knows perfectly well some mods won't work. Or do you think they're ignorant about SKSE and similar extenders? The problem is they're not policing anything, so people are causing trouble and no one is punishing them.
>>341796547
>the worst it will do is shut down.
You act like that isn't a bad thing.
>>341796592
What you're describing already happens in the vanilla game, particularly in Dawnguard as I recall
>>341796547
>If the console is properly ventilated
We're talking about the company that designed the Xbox 360 here, Anon.
>>341788716
Just shows you're a redditor who takes things personally. Just don't give a shit anon
>>341777864
i dont see why anyone pretends to take the site seriously considering most people on there are just there for porno mods
its funny seeing the site owners try to have a respected image but then realizing that theyd be fucked if they tried to get rid of the porn
>tfw no modder will ever mod in otter pets who wear little otter backpacks and pick up and carry items around for you.
Kill me. Why does my favorite animal have to be so unpopular. Every game just has dogs in them.
>>341777864
>implying it would be the "extreme-right side" and not the extreme-left side that would want to keep you from joining their ebin sekret klub unless you agree with them 100%
>Make skin based on a property you don't own
>Use a game you don't own to implement it
>Upload it to a site you don't own
>Get mad when someone else uploads it
>>341796790
Never played them on console. There are plenty of ways to fuck up bethesda games though. Too many strings in a save caused by multiple mods will instantly ctd Skyrim on load for instance.
And we all know how Bethesda recycles its codebase, there's shit from fucking Morrowind still in FO4 code for fucks sake.
>>341778674
True enough. However the reverse is also true, and console users need to stop being such stupid faggots and realize that it is impossible for certain mods to work on their systems as well.
>>341781901
I'm here to shitpost not read a fucking novel
>>341796747
>You don't understand how Bethesda's games work either. None of the original files are being replaced.
You don't understand how Bethesda's games work either. You re-write the original scripting and then the game substitutes that on boot. That's how the script extenders for every game through Skyrim worked.
I'm serious
I wrote scripts for sex mods on Morrowind, I know exactly how their games work.
>>341796845
Not sure I understand. Some people need to learn that they can't always get what they want, and if they brick their systems because they refuse to learn that's on them.
>>341793075
Foreigners have been trying to meddle in our elections for years (look at the Clinton Foundations top contributors)
>>341796939
But the right are the bad guys, Anon, my social networking websites told me so.
>>341795704
While I understand that this may be an issue hypothetically, from the few glances I have had into dialogue within the modding community, and the feedback modders receive; while imagining myself in the modder's shoes I can only keep my sanity by assuming a policy of paying zero attention to your audience to begin with.
So I don't see this as anything new. That's just my perspective though.
For legitimate troubleshooting and an author trying to bugfix, specifying a more formal method of communication in a readme or something will probably net the feedback of everyone who could legitimately help you fix your mod and exclude all the random normies.
>>341796262
I know how modding works. I understand what can be done on PC and cannot be done on consoles in regards to modding Beth titles.
Perhaps I should have specified but I didn't. I'm only talking about mods that are completely functional for consoles.
Console lads complaining about a mod being unavailable without script extenders are hilarious, and theft and shit doesn't damage the original author(except in the way I've already replied to above in this post), only the console fuckers who'll just get a gimped mod.
No files are replaced in modding beth titles by the way. You just add more archives or loose files and they override the base files as load orders and the .esp s will dictate.
>>341781901
Sure, but OP did a horribly shitty job of summarizing the article then, as each point he made makes it seem like the article was precisely about some "PC Master-race" crap.
>>341796747
the majority of mods which require script extenders replace core in-game files.
that's why they need script-extenders, to tell the game to use the replacement scripts instead of its own internal scripts.
ft. person who used to steal people's mods and make them spam the console with woody got wood when I was 14.
>>341790174
Okay? What's wrong with console players being able to use the other half?
>>341796930
How about trains?
How about working towards a system that gives mod creaters their due credit and another that enables some form of quality control?
This whole "mods on consoles" thing is only going to be pushed harder and harder. MS has stated they want Xbox users to have the same experinces as PC users. Sony has explicitly stated they want to use the Neo to compete with the PC market.
We might as well try and work this out now before the Neo/Scorpio come out and the floodgates will open to a much, much larger number of mods.
Just throwing your hands in the air and saying "this is fucked, shut it down" isn't going to stop Bethesda and the rest of the industry from trying to push it.
The ultimate goal for a mod creator is for as many people to be exposed to their mod (with their name on it) as possible anyways.
>>341797390
Absolutely nothing, provided the creator of the mod made it available for consoles.
If he didn't? Tough luck.
>people are seriously triggered by "pc master race"
>>341796930
Bird masterace here
>>341797274
> and theft and shit doesn't damage the original author
I disagree with this, because there is nothing stopping someone on bethesda.net from stealing a pretty good mod which is available on the console and then re-uploading it themselves with a paypal donation link.
bethesda.net has almost zero safeguards against this. And very few people who are autistic enough to download every mod and compare.
>>341797537
Get the fuck out of here with that pschyco motherfucker you call a "bird".
>>341797467
That would require the uploader having technical knowledge and isn't just a "here is the mod, console bros!" shitter.
>>341778674
it's wrong when it'll be used to normalizing paying for mods in the gaming community
>>341797537
Birds are so fucking cool
The best part?
So many of the mods that consoles want are only mods, or only need such complex tools to implement them as mods, because the game engine itself is complete garbage. There's so much shit their engine simply can't fucking do. Consoles could be playing a game that already had many of these features built in, but they have to be complex to install mods cause Bethesda has no pride in their work.
>>341785921
Its actually been longer than that, you're probably leddit, and if you weren't so new, mods actually ban over having names in shit in the thin veil of 'doxxing' since like, 2013/14.
Also new IP, faggot.
>>341797530
>I am VERY smart
>I use reddit
:^)
>>341798117
>triggered
