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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhl5sk9i6Mk&feature=youtu.be
>IT'S NOT ABOUT TERAFLOPS
>IT'S ABOUT THE CONTENT
>WE CREATE ENTERTAINMENT THAT MAKES PEOPLE SMILE
>>341639796
get a life
Good
B-BUT IT WILL LOOK GOOD ON THE NX
It's not about teraflops because it's part portable.
Great so Wii 3 confirmed.
>>341639945
Everybody's doing bullshot nowadays
>>341639796
If its about the content why did the Wii U have such a bad library of games?
>>341639796
he's right
do you think children give a fuck about specs?
ofc not
Considering the Ubisoft comment, this is literally going to be Wii 2.
i really hope nintendo has some genius concept for the nx so i can enjoy xboner and sonygger tears
>>341640156
do you think they gave a fuck about the wiiu?
>>341639796
Man the only thing that Nintendo is going to get with this decision is a GiantFlop
>>341639796
>>IT'S NOT ABOUT TERAFLOPS
>>IT'S ABOUT THE CONTENT
That's true.
But Nintendo doesn't deliver on either.
>>341639796
>not about specs
Because that worked great for the WiiU
>>341640109
They gave up on Wii U pretty early, and moved most everything to NX.
>>341639796
It will be the Wii U all over again, they will fall behind when the Scorpio and Neo get games like GTA VI.
>YFW You didn't fall for the Wii U meme
>YFW You won't fall for the NX meme
>THE MOST POWERFUL HARDWARE HAS NEVER WON
>STOP TALKING ABOUT SPEC REEEEE
We are not asking for it to compete with the best of them, just asking Nintendo to not once again doing their blue ocean gimmick bullshit and sell us another overpriced outdated console
>>341639796
Reminder not to believe Reggie's lies.
>>341640432
>YFW we'll have to fall for other memes at some point
>>341639796
Nintendo has basically accepted the fact that their consoles are for children with the shitty specs and accompanying gimmicks.
Why can't /v/?
>>341639945
>its ok when 99.999% of sony previews are bullshots
>its not ok when nintendo does it
kek
at least nintendo still knows how to actually make games
all sony has are souls,
and those have always been a forced meme
the gameplay has always been mediocre
>>341640730
They want the kiddy shit on their consoles badly regardless of what they will tell you
>>341639796
>no developers will want to work with the bad specs
i just hope nintendo doesn't make it so fucking terribly underpowered like the wii u was
>>341640225
Why would that make them sad? As long as the NX is underpowered, it won't be in direct competition with the Xbox or PS4.
If it's successful, 3rd parties will develop games specifically for their hardware.
If it's a flop, it'll be the same as the WiiU. Some good 1st party games from Nintendo, but no third party support means you have to either play random indies or wait multiple months between releases.
Regardless, if the NX can't compete with the PS4 or Xbone (or their half-gen successors), it'll never make sense to own one in exclusion of the other(s) if you're at all interested in modern AAA games.
Hope they know what they're doing.
Ubisoft was right.
>>341640865
>its ok when 99.999% of sony previews are bullshots
who are you quoting?
>>341640865
>its ok when 99.999% of sony previews are bullshots
Since when?
We must be browsing different boards mate.
Unfortunately you need specs to deliver content. Without the specs, multiplats will always be shittiest on Nintendo consoles, and the latest trend is to basically just skip the Nintendo release.
I mean look at the games that normies play, like Battlefield and Call of Duty. Some will have it on Xbox, some will have it on PlayStation. Really depends on what their friends have. But nobody on Earth has it on Wii. Does Wii even get the DLC maps?
I think they should keep Wii U as the console that parents buy for their children and target NX at 20-something Xbox/PlayStation owners. NX needs better specs than Scorpio and Neo and contracts to bring timed exclusivity of big multiplat franchises. All the big first party games like Mario, Zelda, etc. would release on both Wii U and NX so parents continue to buy them for their kids, but the NX version would be vastly superior. Wii U should be Nintendo games on low, NX should be Nintendo+third party games on ultra.
This generation has been shit.
>>341639945
the top pic is the NX version
i-isn't it?
>>341640565
Or you can not fall for any meme and get a PC.
>>341640432
has the wii u been fully cracked yet?
might be interested if it has
>>341639796
>Reggie is spouting blue ocean red ocean garbage
>even doing the iwata direct shit
Its over, its Wii U 2
>>341640925
>If it's successful, 3rd parties will develop games specifically for their hardware.
They didn't with Wii. They used the fact it was underpowered to justify not supporting it. The same could happen with NX.
This is all assuming NX a home console. Nintendo has yet confirmed what type of hardware it is.
>nobody developed for the Wii U because it didn't use x86 meme
Alright I need to put this fucking thing to rest.
No game developers program in assembly anymore, so this is fucking irrelevant.
Secondly, the Wii U's CPU is no Cell. It doesn't have shitloads more cores than everything else or anything crazy like that.
The Wii U not being x86 had absolutely no bearing on anything. The PS4 and Xbone being x86 had absolutely no bearing on anything.
The only reason the PS4 and Xbone went with x86 processors is that R&D budgets have been slashed for virtually every CPU architecture that isn't x86 these days. Nintendo was content with a revised improvement of their older CPUs. Sony and Microsoft didn't, hence the difference.
>>341641106
It's quite obviously a bullshot, but the stream had extremely bad bitrate, so it's also not representative. Right now our best guess as to how the game actually looks are the 4K screenshots
>>341639796
>WE CREATE ENTERTAINMENT THAT MAKES PEOPLE ROLL THEIR EYES
fix'd
>>341641267
Except nobody else mentioned x86 architecture anywhere in the thread.
Nintendo keep spouting this shit but then fail to actually release any games.
Well, it makes sense. When one of your competitors has just announced a console with 6 teraflops of power, the only thing you can do is try to undermine the importance of specs.
>>341641224
>They used the fact it was underpowered to justify not supporting it
The thing is, that is and always was bullshit. There is no such thing as not being able to shrink a game down for slower hardware, unless the difference in power is like 50x.
Activision got fucking Modern Warfare 3 running on the Wii. Yes, it didn't look as nice as the other version. But it fucking worked.
>>341640925
That's retarded. They're still in competition with xbone and ps4 even if they're underpowered because most people aren't going to buy more then one gaming console. Idorts are the exception, not the rule. Nintendo used to get decent third party support back in the gamecube era, because they was when they had a console which wasn't completely underpowered compared to the competition, and which didn't rely on a gimmick controller
Part of me hopes that Nintendo is doing everything they can to present their old, tired image right up until the NX is revealed so they can pivot into the modern market without months of artificially fucked sales on the Wiiu, 3DS, and family friendly stuff.
But there's also the horrifying possibility that Nintendo has learned nothing from the WiiU's failure and is ready to double down mid-gem on a quirky, underpowered platform.
At this point, I really hope that it's their handheld as well so at least there's a possibility of developer support.
>>341641142
>falling for the nvidia meme
>>341641173
yeah, there is already a smash bros 4 modding scene
>>341640432
>I fell for the Wii meme
>I fell for the wii u meme
But i'm NOT falling for this NX shit. Which is why I'm also cautious about the new zelda. most of them have been shit for years.
>>341640095
So it's ok when Nintendo does it?
>>341639796
wait, how is this guy still CEO when NoA is literally on its deathbed?
Are the japanese too stupid to realize the entire problem is their NoA branch?
>>341639796
>IT'S NOT ABOUT TERAFLOPS
Damn they're really trying to avoid another flop.
>>341641595
>Part of me hopes that Nintendo is doing everything they can to present their old, tired image right up until the NX is revealed so they can pivot into the modern market without months of artificially fucked sales on the Wiiu, 3DS, and family friendly stuff.
I thought I was the only one doing this. Still, I know these are all delusions and Nintendo won't change for the better in the near future. They really don't see what they're doing wrong.
>>341641660
No point of pointing out single devs when everyone does it
>>341641524
Like it or not, that's the system Nintendo has perpetuated.
It's a shame because if a Nintendo console could host modern multi-plats, it would have the richest and best exclusive library of any modern system.
Instead, the WiiU is a tax for the privilege for playing Nintendo titles with almost nothing else to offer. Nintendo makes good games, but if you want anything else, you're fucked.
Everybody in these threads only seems concerned with whether the NX is 'underpowered' or not.
I thought you fuckers would have learned from console history that it doesn't matter very much. It's a factor, sure. But it's very far from the most important one. So concern yourselves with something else.
>>341640156
Children care about good graphics, which are generated by specs
>We're making the same mistake as we did with the Wii U.
Are they blind or just out of touch as to why the Wii U failed?
>>341641915
They're concerned with getting a Wii U repeat.
>>341641828
It's the curse of past success. Usually, a company in this position would be lean, hungry, and ready to wow fans.
Instead, we have this weird "it's your problem, not ours that this wasn't a success" vibe which makes it seem like we're in for more of the same. And they have the money to bankroll mistakes for way too long.
Pushing back the release makes me a tiny bit hopeful that it could be an image shift with the NX and they didn't want to do it so early.
>>341641987
>implying wii u was a blue ocean console
>>341641987
Kimishima knew the Wii U was gonna flop because it was "too similar" to the Wii, so I suppose they must have some semblance of why the Wii U flopped
I just really hope this is another case of Reggie being retarded as usual
>>341641595
I really hope they have. Still chasing the wii casual market is going to kill them, since the normies have en masse moved onto phones and tablets and aren't coming back to a console. They need to get the confidence of their core audience back, which another wacky controller won't do
>>341642202
At least they were smart enough to not name the console the Wii NX.
>>341639945
This makes me smile
Sweet, Hopefully 3rd party devs won't mind developing games on a fucking 1980's toaster because Nintendo games have gone to shit.
>>341641915
It doesn't matter sometimes. The 3ds is underpowered but uncontested. 3rd parties develop for the platform and utilize its features because it's the only/best game in town.
That also worked with the Wii.
Underpowered does matter if you're entered a competitive market with pre-existing entities. If you can't do what they do as well as they can, you're going to have issues building a base just by scarcity of titles alone. Nintendo has already shown that it doesn't have the ability to singlehandedly develop enough games to sustain a console generation. If they don't have a mega-hit or if they can't compete with modern specs, it'll be the same all over again.
>>341641896
It doesn't have to be like that though. I mean, GC and N64 would have the best version of third party titles most of the time.
It's like that now, but there's no reason they couldn't make a powerful console again besides their own stubbornness in sticking with a strategy which clearly isn't working
>>341639796
Nintendo is fucking done.
Zelda looks like 2007 shit.
nintendofags swear up in down it will get a massive graphical update on nx
Reggie swoops in and kills all hopes.
Fucking poety, it's just perfect. And even more beautiful the damage control.
>>341641142
>falling for the "master race" meme
>"b-but it's not a meme I swear! You're just jelly u poorfag"
>>341639796
If the specs of the NX aren't at least on par with Xbone and PS4 they'll get the same amount of third party support as the Wii U and they'll have another underperformer on their hands. Exclusives move consoles, but if you're not getting the multiplats they might as well be competitor exclusives.
>>341642335
Technically, we have no idea what they named it. NX is a placeholder.
Prease undastand. Prease continue to buy your physical DLC McDonalds toys.
>yfw 12 year old nintendo fans actually believe this.
>>341639945
>>341639796
>After receiving his degree, Fils-Aimé took a position with Procter & Gamble. Following that, he took a position as Senior Director of National Marketing at Pizza Hut, where he launched the Bigfoot Pizza and The Big New Yorker.
He ran Nintendo into the ground.
>>341642268
>Still chasing the wii casual market is going to kill them, since the normies have en masse moved onto phones and tablets and aren't coming back to a console.
Nintendo abandoned the casuals to focus on core gamers, actually. They dropped the focus on casuals back in 2011.
It's the core gamers that betrayed Nintendo by not buying Wii U. Well, and Nintendo fucked up by not giving core gamers what they wanted. You know that Nintendoland was actually for core gamers right?
When Nintendo designed games for casuals they would purposely not put any of their old IP into it. Nintendoland on the other hand was the complete opposite, it was a pastiche of old Nintendo IP - they very sincerely thought it was a game for their core audience.
It was a game where instead of your mom asking you to play Wii Sports with her, you were supposed to ask mom whether she'd play Nintendoland with you.
>>341642610
Yes, it's frustrating. They really got fucked over mentally by the Wii's huge, apparently unrepeatable, success. Let's hope it doesn't kill them.
>>341642646
Show me on this doll where Nintendo hurt you.
Why don't they even try any more? I don't want to see Mario, Metroid, and Zelda go away. I like my Wii U for the tiny bit of games I play on it, but there's no way NX won't be their last. I just don't think they're gonna go third party like Sega.
>>341642791
>Reading Youtube comments
That's like sticking your dick in a dirty prostitute and complaining you have HIV now
>>341642791
>sonyggers false flagging
>>341639796
>NX IS NOT ABOUT SPEC
NX confirmed dead on arrival. How many more of these abortions does nintendo have to shit out until someone with a modicum of sense is put in charge?
NX CONFIRMED TO JUST BE SLIGHTLY "BETTER" THAN THE WII U
>tfw you won't fall for the NX meme
>>341642870
When I just recently purchased a 3ds to get pokemon sun and moon, and their where framedrops. On a fucking turn based jrpg.
I was honestly offended by how shit the hardware is, and how poorly optimized the games where.
>>341639796
Technically hes right
Absolutely silly to care about specs for your console considering you cant do anything to change the,
>>341643028
And what made you think that person is a fan of a Sony brand?
>>341642820
>It was a game where instead of your mom asking you to play Wii Sports with her, you were supposed to ask mom whether she'd play Nintendoland with you.
They thought core gamers wanted to play games with their mothers?
>>341639796
>They bragged about the new NX being more powerful than current gen Xbone.
>Xbox Scorpio will be more powerful than NX and PS4 NEO
>Both Sony and Nintendo "It's not about specs"
They got btfo
>>341643210
Iwata ? Finish your sentence
IWATAAAAAAAAA
>NX IS NOT ABOUT SPEC
this doesn't mean it's under current or future spec
it just means they're not using it as a talking point the way microsoft unimpressively did
>>341639796
I guess it's not about third party either. . . top fucking kek
>>341643337
>Mii and U
>>341639945
>The top picture is concept art
So why is Nintendo so averse in specs and stuff?
Is it just because of marketing/PR shit or are they totally delusional?
Imagine Sony or Microshill saying they don't give a shit about their console's specs.
>>341639796
Guys lets see who can guess what the shitty "family" gimmick will be, will for sure be a console seller.
Can't wait for your mom to buy this brand new gimmick like she did with the wiiu
>>341643108
Anyone with sense knows that the PS4 / Xbone audience wouldn't buy a Nintendo console no matter how powerful it is.
People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. The only mistake Nintendo could make is not having enough games ready for the launch
>>341643580
Money.
>>341639796
yeah this plan has worked for the Wii U so well
not focusing on higher graphics, no chance of getting 3rd parties
Nintendo is literally insane at this point
>>341643528
No it isn't.
>>341643339
Don't lie through your teeth fag. Sony didn't say anything about "not about the specs", only nintendo surrender unconditionally.
>>341640156
when it can't get those 3rd parties they do
>there are people who actually think Nintendo's biggest problem is outdated tech
The GC was more powerful than the PS2 and still got crushed. Nintendo has way bigger issues.
>>341643625
Ninty tried to get a share of the tablet market with the Pii Poo. So perhaps they now make a controller that looks like a smartphone?
>>341643819
lets hear it then
please
>>341643580
Nintendo have been averse to specs since the Gamecube days.
The most famous thing is where Sony and Microsoft gave theoretical peak performance estimates for the PS2 and Xbox of something like 66 million and 150 million polygons respectively, while Nintendo gave a "real-world" performance estimate of 6-12 million polygons for Gamecube.
To graphic whores and spec freaks, Nintendo were giving them fucking palpitations by not playing ball.
>>341639796
The "Sheika Slate" tablet you get in BotW really leads me to believe that is an indication of how the NX is going to end up
Having a tablet in a Zelda game is too on the nose to lead towards some indication
>>341643339
>>They bragged about the new NX being more powerful than current gen Xbone.
nintendo never did this? what the fuck are you talking about?
>>341641987
Nintendo is arguably the most out of touch company in all of economics.
>>341643640
A mistake which, if we go by the Wii U's library, could easily happen.
There's already stuff out there about how the NX will "try to re-capture the Wii audience". It's going to be a disaster. Nintendo genuinely doesn't understand that they need to compete on technology anymore. The Wii was a lightning in a bottle thing that they won't be able to replicate, but they'll still keep chasing that same nonexistent audience of people.
>>341643625
>yfw your mom did actually buy into the wii fit shit
>Sony fans are THIS mad right now
>>341643819
>The GC was more powerful than the PS2
It wasn't my shitposting friendo.
I'd give a shit one way or the other if they actually showed it off at all.
>>341643625
Nintendo reportedly wanted a "donut shaped" (like with a hole in the middle) LCD display.
>>341642806
Anyone who didn't like the Pizza Hut Big New Yorker is a dirty Dominigger and should be shot in the street.
Please don't turn this into a pizza war thread.
Aunouma said that the two Zelda versions will be the same in content but diferentt in visuals, confirming that NX will have better specs
>>341643625
Remember this classic?
>>341644097
That fucking rumor is almost a year old
>>341643819
not fair, the PS2 was also a fucking dvd player when those were all the rage
game system and a dvd player? everyone would want one
but the Gamecube also failed because 3rd parties were never ready to embrace the tiny discs when the dvds were cheaper to get
and "hardcore" games found the lunchbox design unappealing
>>341640432
sony is shit hahahaha
MUH MATURE GAMES
>>341643913
Marketing.
>>341643913
They alienate 3rd party developers by treating them like shit, rehash old games constantly, focus too much on pointless gimmicks and can't into 21st century.
>>341643819
>The GC was more powerful than the PS2
Only in like, texturing. In pure polygon crunching power, PS2 was more powerful.
Nintendo, why. I'll still buy an NX because I'm a fan, but please just give us some power, please. The bear minimum at this point is 1080p 60fps gaming and 4K video. Forget VR, you need at least those other things
>>341644048
it's absolutely true. The Gamecube was a lot stronger than the PS2. Just look at the Resident Evil 4 comparisons.
>>341644148
Source?
do you think its a good or bad sign that there is still no leak yet? rumors from attention whoring indie cunts dont count.
>>341644148
Can't fucking wait for the graphical comparison videos pop up and they look like a ps4 vs xbone comparison.
It's gonna fail horribly.
No one is going to buy it except hardcore Nintendo fans.
>but but we don't care about third party!
>but we care about Nintendo titles
And history has proven you right in the last 6 years how?
I want Nintendo to succeed but they're shooting themselves in the foot.
I bet they don't even use optical media, which is again another suicidal tactic. People want to play their BluRays. Granted, everyone has a BluRay player now probably, but this is analogous to stores now having UPS Access Points/other facilities to draw customers in.
Its about getting people to boot your goddamn machine on, and see what else is new/available to buy.
The store I used to work for became a UPS Access point (for free, there's no monetary benefit from this, its simply being a way for people to drop off and pick up packages) and it literally just gets people in the door. Once you get people in the door, that's the goal. They'll eventually buy something.
So Nintendo, make people boot up your machine. Make them buy something.
>>341643625
The controller excretes farts into your face that smell exactly like Shigeru Miyamoto's farts. The fans will love it.
>>341644236
>Gamecube also failed because 3rd parties were never ready to embrace the tiny discs
Out of all of the idiotic reasons why the Gamecube didn't beat the PS2, I think this would have to be the most brainless.
I honestly feel stupider for reading such posts.
>>341644214
Ah, I remember the damage control Sonyggers went into when it was confirmed fake
>NINTENDO OBVIOUSLY PAID THEM TO CREATE A FAKE PHOTOSHOP SCREEN
Literally people were saying that
>>341644110
I always wanted to get The Big New Yorker from seeing commercials for it on American TV, but I don't think we got it in Canada. :(
>>341644287
I should look at a former GC exclusive game to determine how powerful PS2 is?
>>341643974
Yeah it could. I'd say Wii U's selection of games is actually pretty decent, but the launch lineup was just really bad, and that left a bad impression on many.
The new Nintendo boss said that one of their biggest focuses with NX is to have great games on launch, so I hope they will deliver on that
>>341642646
>Ever expecting it to be upgraded for the NX.
You don't need Reggie for that.
>>341644276
No it's because you're a delusional.
>>341639796
>its about content
yeah, just like the wii u, right?
look at all those third party developers that abandoned the wii u which left the system with literally no games every year.
>>341644265
http://wars.locopuyo.com/cwsystemspecsold.php
see for yourself. Gamecube was stronger 9 times out of 10.
>>341644287
>Just look at the Resident Evil 4 comparisons.
Oh right, a Gamecube exclusive that received a rush port to PS2 to save Capcom's annual bottom line for that year is surely the best form of comparison.
>>341644264
>alienate 3rd parties
>not because of their always outdated hardware
>pointless gimmick
>its not hardware
>>341644262
>marketing
You cant be serious, they can only spin so much when the hardware and third parties aren't there
>>341644602
Where does this site gets it information from? Because 9 out of 10 times I see either pure bullshit or N/A.
>>341644645
Just research the specs you Clinton loving shithead. The GC destroyed the PS2. Fuck you.
>>341644602
>comparing clock speeds across completely different processor architectures
>>341643625
The console looks like a big diorama with places to put amiibos in. In the middle, you put the game amiibo. Then you also have to buy an amiibo for the protagonist you want to play as and amiibos of the enemies you want to battle. Item amiibos are also very important. You also have to buy a save amiibo (memory card) and player amiibos for each additional player in a multiplayer game.
>>341644645
>>341644468
>rush port
>it looks worse
You don't have to take graphical effects out to port something. If it ran poorly you'd be onto something, but the game only looks worse.
>>341639945
>comparing a screenshot of a zone with grass on NX with a screenshot lowres on Wii U taken in a zone without grass
>>341644417
We literally don't even know what it is yet. We can assume it won't play media since it's a Nintendo console.
>>341644298
http://wiiudaily.com/2016/06/nintendo-confirms-the-new-zelda-game-will-look-better-on-the-nx-duh/
Regular ass controllers and keyboard/mouse will continue to be the main video game inputs for years to come, just as water seeks its own level.
It always strays from that with motion controls, cameras, touch screens, but always comes back every time for the core video games.
The Wii was a major success, but the more loyal fanbase appreciated games that had minimal use of motion controls, or how the IR sensor basically emulates a mouse cursor. Their casual fanbase has moved to touchscreen games.
They lost them, now their fanbase consists of nostalgiafags (like myself, I have a Wii U) and it's just not enough.
>>341639796
Is there still any way Nintendo won't die next gen? Their celshading is beautiful. It's probably fine if it runs below 30fps all the time, and open world crafting is the future still.
>no keighley shitting on reggie interview this year
e3 fucking sucks
>>341644935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blqetCernY
So PS2 more powerful than Xbox confirmed? Cause they took out sparks
>>341644468
>CPU 485MHz vs. 299MHz
>9.4 GFLOPS vs. 6.2 GFLOPS
>I don't understand how 50% better specs might suggest that GCN is more powerful than PS2
>>341644846
it's a fair point. bad ports aren't a good indication of a devices power.
>>341644870
>lying libertarian rodent
Kill yourself.
>>341644479
Even in terms of nintendo only games, I wasn't really that impressed with the wii u titles. No Metroid, no Zelda so far, a pure platformer Mario game rather then a 64/Sunshine style collectathon. The only stuff I'd really like to play is Smash and MK, but neither of those are console sellers to me
>>341645106
That's a relief.
>>341644935
>You don't have to take graphical effects out to port something.
Is that why every Need for Speed game looks much better on PS2 than on GC?
>>341643169
>their where
(you)an for poetry
>>341645106
No source, no quote
???
>>341643968
you sound super educated and wise
>>341644527
to be fair the devs fucked it over first by porting a bunch of games that were already several months old and cheap entries in series people didn't care about anymore. Rabbids and Scribblenauts were among the only new entries in the lineup.
Why can't Nintendo just abandon the console market and focus on handhelds?
>>341640156
They care about graphics. It's all they talk about between my kid and his friends
>>341645181
>he thinks that 9.4 GFLOPS rating is for the CPU
way to know your own shitposting material you complete imbecile
it's for the fucking GPU
the actual GFLOPS rating for the Gamecube's CPU is 1.9 GFLOPS
You guys stopped enjoying videogames years ago.
You only enjoy the temporary high you get from falseflagging and shitposting now. Civil discussion on this board is impossible.
>>341645207
>RE4 was a bad port meme
yeah, I guess capcom didn't know how to program for PS2...
>>341645434
Why would you want that? Handhelds are for 12 year olds.
>>341645434
i hope the 30x17 resolution the DS screens have stays for another 10 years
>>341639796
He said the exact same things about the Wii U.
>It's not about the box
Look where that got them.
>>341645480
I know that you mongoloid. My post points out that both cpu AND gpu are better on GameCube.
God damn summer is in full effect.
who needs a teraflop when the entire corporation is a flop
>>341645148
They're either get bought, merge, or go third party.
>>341645502
I actually don't see alot of console war shitposting in this thread, it mostly seems to be people who legitimately want Nintendo to do better
>>341645480
he clearly was not referring to the CPU as GFLOPS
>>341640156
Times changed
>>341640356
By early do you mean before the system was released?
>>341645661
>>341645708
So why did he quote the GFLOPS for the PS2's CPU against the Gamecube's GPU?
>>341645181
>>CPU 485MHz vs. 299MHz
Man look at the picture and tell me if you think that the 04 CPU is faster than the 15 one.
>>341639796
>Game Consoles should be devices used to pay videogames, not low-end PCs.
What exactly is the problem here?
What if..
>Reggie comes on stage
>Talks a lot
>Gets to the reveal
You hear and see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9mOjHzTFiQ
>>341645820
He didn't you fucking retard.
>>341645667
wow, really clever anon.
>>341639796
>WE CREATE ENTERTAINMENT THAT MAKES PEOPLE SMILE
LIES!!!
all i want is a console with decent hardware, online and nintendo games. 3rd party sucks anyway and if not then i am going to play them on pc.
>>341645932
They already did one of those, it's called the wiiu
Why does he always talk about content when they have none?
What have they even released this year? Star Fox? lel
Is there anything on the horizon for this year?
>>341645953
But he did >>341645181
>9.4 GFLOPS vs. 6.2 GFLOPS
9.4 GFLOPS is the for the Gamecube's GPU "Flipper"
6.2 GFLOPS is for the PS2's CPU "Emotion Engine"
>>341646031
Sticker Star 2 and #FE Idolshit
the future is not bright for the Wii U.
>>341645852
where are flops m8
>>341641891
>it's ok because everyone does it
t. you
>Nintendo is finally dying
>>341646303
nintendo is DOOMED m8
>>341645972
Thank you. I'm thinking of getting into stand up comedy.
>>341646303
So what do you gain from this?
>>341646252
I don't know, I've tried to find a GHz-FLOPS online conversion tool but to my surprise I couldn't find any.
>>341646450
Many keks to be had
>>341646303
If you think about it, everything is technically always dying. A lifespan is finite, and time only passes.
>>341646298
>All of a sudden it's a problem because Nintendo does it
>>341640432
>MFW I didn't fall for the Wii U meme
>MFW I won't fall for the NX meme
>MFW I only fell for the Game Boy Advance meme
feels good man
>>341646252
Flops are fairly worthless as a metric anyway because it doesn't take into account important shit like the effect of cache on performance. It's a mostly discredited way to compare processors, although MUCH better than just comparing clock speeds.
>>341646303
Nintendo died the day they entered video games.
>>341646450
I will finally be able to play the 1-2 nintendo games I care about on other consoles.
>>341646604
But the GBA wasnt a meme
>>341640225
>11 KB JPG
>i really hope nintendo has some genius concept for the nx so i can enjoy xboner and sonygger tears
Why would this make me sad? If it has good 1st party, good weeb games, and no gay ass 4kids tier censorship I'll probably end up buying it.
>>341646450
Satisfaction.
>>341646524
And what's gonna happen after those keks run out?
It's not about teraflops but FLOP is coming one way or another
>>341639796
>IT'S ABOUT THE CONTENT
WHAT CONTENT EXACTLY?
>>341639796
Now I hope the backlash is so huge that it forces Nintendo to do the opposite with the NX.
>>341646671
>other consoles
Anon, they can't make the games if they're dead
>>341639945
DELETE THIS
>>341639945
>Vertical Slice
>>341639796
Damn, pretty much means they are setting up another failure.
Who really didn't see this coming?
I'm really worried for Nintendo,
I hope they have something in mind
Because if the NX goes bad, it's over for them.
And I don't want it to happen.
>>341646787
Too late. All the testing and component choices made for a new console are made at LEAST 18 months out from release date. Even changing the fucking GPU would force them to redo a giant chunk of shit and talk on another 12 months of work to readjust things.
If Nintendo does not have a powerful machine, they're not getting the automatic 3rd party support they DESPERATELY need.
The Wii U barely broken 12 million. This next machine might fail to break 10.
>>341646904
>they are setting up another failure.
But that was the strategy they followed for the Wii.
Remember the Wii, the most profitable console of all time?
>>341646662
(You)
>NX will probably be on the same level as the original PS4 and Xbone
>Sony and Microsoft are already moving to upgraded versions of their consoles
Man, the Wii really fucked up with Nintendo's schedule. They are always one generation behind the competition. No wonder nobody takes them seriously
>>341646996
>If Nintendo does not have a powerful machine, they're not getting the automatic 3rd party support they DESPERATELY need.
Wow yes, all that automatic support the N64 got.
>>341646693
Explain
>>341646450
Fanboys of other consoles and companies are perpetually assblasted because Nintendo has been the face of videogames since the NES.
No videogame mascot is as recognizable or world-renown as Mario.
>>341643625
The magnet controller, just look at that awesome unique design. :^)
>>341646992
as long as nintendo keeps making successful handhelds they have nothing to worry about.
>>341647014
Yeah, and probably their worst by far with gimmicks and terrible software. It seems both their hardware and software are getting worse each passing generation. I doubt casuals will dip again into a gimmick.
>>341647084
>The upgrades are a new generation
I hate this meme
>>341640156
Specs= A console that can actually fucking run 3rd party games.
Nintendo doesn't have that, and they probably still won't so they're going to be digging their own grave this time again.
>>341643169
I think that's just Gamefreak not giving a shit, Kid Icarus had better graphics and less framerate issues, and actually supported 3d.
>>341647221
I once saw an NX mockup that looked like the Sheika Tablet. It was a tablet with a handle on the side. I can't find it anymore.
>>341646996
The scorpio is releasing next year and already the tech is out of date. Consoles are always out of date, from the day they're created.
>>341641915
People want third party games on a Nintendo console. Third Parties want to make games on powerful consoles that don't have forced gimmicks.
Before people start with "b-but they did that with game cube" Nintendo fucked that up by having the games on mini disc instead of DVD format like everyone else.
>>341647195
>face of videogames
That's pretty much Minecraft and Angry Birds, this isn't the late 80s.
Even Nintendo fans recognize that they have been shit, myself included. They just constantly rush out games, make awful hardware, charge out the ass for everything. Overall, a really stagnating and poor company.
Their death is pretty overdue.
>>341646662
No, I can show you the exact moment Nintendo died. Pic related.
>>341639945
>it's about the content
>>341645923
the market has spoken, people want low end pc's that are optimized
>>341647292
>Specs= A console that can actually fucking run 3rd party games.
Third parties haven't had any trouble porting current-gen games to 360 and PS3, which are around 50% weaker than Wii U.
>>341647156
Nintendo got way more support with N64 than they even deserved, considering that the documentation was lacking, Nintendo was pain in the ass to get information from and the devkits became available after the retail console itself got to costumers (~a year into PS's lifespan).
>>341647286
>The Wii sold 100 million consoles
>over 900 million units of software
>somehow this is worse than the gamecube
>>341647467
Bullshit, my shelves are full of them.
>>341642678
You won't know what it means to love a gaming console until you build it yourself. Move to China and get a job at a Sony sweatshop, then come back and talk.
>>341647503
Denial. Denial in this post. Its called ease of porting.
>>341647467
>this extremely profitable thing that has not hurt any major release was the end of nintendo
>>341647467
How much you wanna bet the NX has paid online? Oh right, also Nintendo fans are going to defend it, no doubt. Just like the new Zelda stealing ideas from everything and implementing technology from 2004, its all "new" when Nintendo does it. Nintendo at this point is the Apple of gaming, anyone smart enough would avoid them.
>>341647418
>Nintendo fucked that up by having the games on mini disc instead of DVD
Yes, I'm sure that was absolutely pivotal. You have a goddamn single digit IQ.
I fucking hate all this hype and secrecy. Just fucking reveal what it is and stop trying to appeal to fucking hype timing. It's so cheap
>>341647463
But I've been satisfied with the Wii-U. I don't approve of all of their decisions and policies at the corporate level but I have more games for my Wii-U than for the Xbox One and Ps4.
>>341647547
Quality wise, yes. The gamecube had good third party and good first party, and was all around solid. The Wii was so barren on releases, most of its better games got ported, and most of them played like shit due to waggle.
I had a Wii the entire lifecycle, me and everyone else used it maybe once or twice a year because it had next to fucking nothing.
>>341647704
>How much you wanna bet the NX has paid online?
I wouldn't be surprised, but subscription stuff and even Season Passes are very un-Nintendo.
>>341647463
>They just constantly rush out games
>Zelda has taken over years to come out
>Even Nintendo fans recognize that they have been shit, myself included
>Their death is pretty overdue.
You could at least make your falseflag a lot less obvious
>>341647806
Having more games on a platform that's 2 years older is hardly a good merit to go by, more when most of the software is awful.
>>341647605
>Its called ease of porting.
Right, cause it's easier to port games to the Cell machine with an ancient GPU that doesn't even have a unified shader model (standard since 2006) than to Wii U. Fucking idiot.
>>341647868
>quality
stopped reading there. If we're talking about sales we're talking about sales, which the Wii was tremendously successful in. Don't move the goalposts.
>>341647971
>2
The Wii U is literally only a year older than the Xbone and PS4.
>>341647704
>Fans of something they like defend their problems
What other shocking news do you have for us?
>>341647885
I have a Wii U dude. How am I falseflagging?
Zelda was delayed because of the NX and because, likely, they couldn't cover development costs with the sales projections on the Wii U alone. Everything else has been butchered or rushed. The saving grace of the Wii U, if you can call it that, is the few safe sequels and the few third party titles Nintendo funded.
>>341647791
It's because they want to wring the Wii U as dry as they can.
If they detailed the NX now then more people will likely wait to board that ship and leave the Wii U to sink.
And this ALL depends on if the NX is what we want it to be. So they may be holding back because they know it isn't and it'll be another by the books controversial move by Nintendo.
Personally, I'm getting so sick of their shit.
>>341641173
Nope. The only exploit is an obnoxious browser exploit that has to be done every single time.
No IOSU exploit as of now.
>>341648021
Since they don't have quality, how do you expect them to do better than the Wii U?
is it even possible to release a console in 2017 thats weaker than the ps4 for lets say 299 if there is no shitty expensive gimmick like the wii u pad?
Anyone else going to spread negative stuff about the NX everywhere? It's gonna be fun.
>yfw the NX flops
>>341648426
If we get paid for it
>>341647707
It WAS a huge mistake retard.
The gamecube had only like 1.5gb of memory on their discs compared to the standard CD which had around 8gb.
>we create entertainment that makes people smile
It's extremely summer here.
>Not realizing that Nintendo hasn't cared about power since the SNES
>Not realizing that the main reason the Wii U tanked was because of the lack of appealing exclusives unlike the Wii
>>341648553
I think the results will be satisfying enough.
Fuck, so Nintendo consoles are finally dead.
I wonder what direction they'll go for handhelds.
Nintendo branded phone with physical controls?
Stick with simple handhelds?
Full iOS/Android possibly
>>341648645
>Wii
>Appealing exclusives
>>341648619
I love this game though.
One of the best Star Fox titles alongside the original and 64.
>>341643528
>>341643695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upXyl6GRLg0
>>341648645
>>Not realizing that the main reason the Wii U tanked was because of the lack of appealing exclusives unlike the Wii
Uh uh?
It certainly wasn't because no one gives a shit about Nintendo besides their hardcore.
>>341648794
Likely an iOS device.
>>341639796
Nintendo should just drop out of the hardware business. Even if they did make a high powered machine it wouldn't matter.
Sony and Microsoft have the 3rd parties and the users who wanna buy those games. Xbros and the like aren't gonna jump ship to Nintendo even if the hardware is nuts so the devs won't either.
They will never have 3rd party support like the others.
I love Nintendo's games and honestly I don't think anything of value would be lost if they just stopped making hardware and only made games.
>>341639995
>it's part portable.
Fucking let it go. It's not happening.
>>341648582
>The gamecube had only like 1.5gb of memory on their discs compared to the standard CD which had around 8gb.
>Game: Grand Theft Auto III
>File Size: 993.95 MB
>System: Sony Playstation 2
Idiot.
It's not as if it costs a lot more to have two or three mini-disks. In fact, some games like REmake did.
Two Final Fantasy games on PS1 were four disks and I didn't hear Squaresoft complaining
>>341648645
>>Not realizing that the main reason the Wii U tanked was because of the lack of appealing exclusives unlike the Wii
No it wasn't
The casual generation that flocked to the Wii grew up and bought the other consoles.
The casual generation that was meant to replace them bought $100 tablets for mobile trash instead of the Wii U.
>>we create entertainment that makes people smile
>>341639796
>IT'S ABOUT THE CONTENT
>one or two 2d Mario... again
>one 3d Mario...again
>about two Mario Parties...again
>Legend of Zelda... again
>maybe one Kirby game... again
>another Metroid maybe never.... again
Nintendo, this shit is getting old.
>we create entertainment that makes people smiIe
>nintendo will die in your lifetime because they can't stop gambling with gimmicks
>>341648952
>The casual generation that flocked to the Wii grew up and bought the other consoles.
Uh, no they didn't. They just didn't buy any console.
This generation is flagging well behind the previous generation in terms of total sales across all consoles.
>>341648645
Except the Super NES and Nintendo 64 were more powerful than their contemporaries, aside from a few dumb hardware choices (slow ass CPU for the SNES, carts instead of discs for the N64).
>we create entertainment that makes people smile
>>341649176
So that game was actually pretty fun at a party.
I think someone at Nintendo must be listening to me. I want this shit to fail hard, and the more information that gets released the more likely it seems that it will.
>>341649245
>Konami already died in your lifetime because they literally gamble
>we create entertainment that makes peopIe smile
>>341648982
The new Zelda is really some sort of bizzaro scenario, though.
>>341649245
or even better, they'll go the way of sega
i dont hate nintendo games but i cant wait until those fucking retards are forced to make their games for a real console
>>341649330
The problem is that Game & Wario is freeware sold as retail game.
>>341649301
what went wrong?
>>341648948
>GTA III
Wow, nice choice of a game that came out a the very dawn of the 6th generation instead of something that proves how short-lived the gamecube was like San Andreas or Splinter Cell
>One downside to the GameCube Game Disc is the relatively small amount of storage they provide. As a result, some games with large amounts of data needed to be placed across two discs, such as Resident Evil 4. Multi-platform games that fit on PlayStation 2 and Xbox DVD discs occasionally saw the removal of certain features in order to fit on GameCube Game Discs. Full-motion video scenes and audio are more compressed to fit on a single disc, reducing their quality.
>>341649421
>or even better, they'll go the way of sega
Hope you like Mario
>>341649251
Yup. Counsels in general are dying and desu I can't wait for them to go.
They are stupid and increasingly unnecessary things.
>>341649421
>a real console
>>341649441
I got it for free and I was thoroughly disappointed
T.Sonynggers the thread
>>341643640
I don't care about Xbox or PS4, all I want is Nintendo stop being a pussy and give us powerful consoles with innovative games again like in the N64 era
>we create entertainment that makes peopIe smile
>>341640156
yes dude, no child wants to upgrade their ipads/iphones/electronics to better versions
good one
>>341648619
>>341648970
>>341649176
>>341649301
>>341649414
Anyone can cherrypick anon
>>341649463
>Wow, nice choice of a game that came out a the very dawn of the 6th generation
I wasn't aware that 3 years after the Dreamcast came out was the "dawn of the 6th generation" but alright.
> like San Andreas
Spread it over three disks. One for each city. Done. No compression required.
>Splinter Cell
It was on Gamecube you fucking toddler
>wikipedia quoting
kill yourself anytime
>>341649251
Well, my point still stands, the people who were supposed to buy the Wii U bought tablets for mobile shit instead.
>>341647248
The 3DS is the worst selling Nintendo handheld to-date. I mean, as of its duration since release being factored in.
Nintendo is literally haemorraghing market share in the handheld space to mobile devices, and the scariest thing about this?
Apple and Google haven't even begun to formulate a proper mobile gaming strategy.
>>341649421
>a real console
What did he mean by this?
>>341639945
That top image could not possibly be confused for an in-game screenshot. Top is concept art, bottom is in-game.
The bottom also has the camera pointing down in one of the most boring areas possible. It could not be more cherrypicked. Don't even plan to buy the NX for this game, just saying.
>>341649673
I like how this one includes multiplats and hides user scores when they're good
>>341639796
That totally worked out in the past, Reg-E.
The waggle and fitness fad died, man. And so will your company if you do not have the specs.
Wow, that sucks for NX buyers who won't be able to buy the 0 games that are made exclusively for the 4k-capable consoles.
>>341649716
>Spread it over three disks. One for each city. Done.
Not him, but if you think everybody wanted to be switching discs just to travel to different places in GTA you were crazy. You are just highlighting how much of a shortcoming those discs were.
>>341649716
>Quoting from wikipedia is worse than pulling shit out of your own ass.
Okay then, did you know that the gamecube also gives you autism?
Guess that explains your anger.
>>341649673
What the Nani is this?!
Fuck off and kill yourself, assblasted Nintendrone.
>>341649797
>The 3DS is the worst selling Nintendo handheld to-date
>Not counting Virtual Boy
every time
>>341649716
>Hey Nintendo. Can you give us the option of paying you more for your proprietary discs so that we can get a game on your system? Thanks.
>>341648812
>What is Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3
>>341648926
If Nintendo had launched skyward sword for the Wii U, it would've mad a huge impact for sales.
>>341648952
Fair point
>>341649969
Twilight princess was never exclusive to anything.
>>341649640
>posting literally the blandest 3D Mario in existence (after its prequel 3DL of course)
The best Wii U game wasn't even made by Nintendo, it was made by Platinum.
The second best Wii U game was made by Retro.
The third best Wii U game was made by Platinum, again.
When you don't even place in the top three on your own console, on a brand *known* for its 1st party support, what the fuck are you even doing anymore? You're dropping the fucking ball is what you're doing.
How to save the NX
>No retarded expensive controller in the box
Just a regular pad like the competitors. They can create whatever gimmicky shit they want to add on but ship it with something normal
>Good release price around $200-$250
>Read Blu-ray discs
>More of a focus on streaming/entertainment sites like netflix, twitch, youtube or even social media as well
I know wiiU has it but it's kinda shitty also they tried with the Wii TV thing but that's shit. A lot of people still buy consoles as a gaming device but also entertainment center
And the big one
>Actual third party support
I'm curious how they would do this though. Nobody is going to buy an NX to play call of duty with their friends.
Also couch co op is completely dead. There are only a handful of games on the ps4 and xbone you can co-op with. They need to take advantage of it more than they already do and make co-op games aimed at an older or more 'hardcore' audience.
The thing is, specs are the reason why Nintendo has such poor third party support. During the Nintendo Wii and Wii U, developers can't port their games due to the difference in both machine's specs. And especially, if the install base is too low, you're not going to see an exclusive Final Fantasy title either. Games are too expensive to create, so they have to port across different platforms to recoup the expenses of developing. Though, Scorpio and Neo will help Nintendo in the end to keep lower-spec consoles and ports.
>>341649560
>>341649804
mad nintendrones detected
no, your pathetic gimmicky trash are toys, not games consoles
>>341649923
>What the Nani is this?!
>all about content
>brings one game to E3
>>341642806
Those were some good pizzas though. Great for parties. The worst years for Pizza Hut were the 2000s. They actually have competitive deals now. Started with that 10 dollar any toppings you want deal. That revitalized that company and the guy who came up with it deserves to be CEO by now.
>>341642806
>The Big New Yorker.
WHOA!!!
He was responsible for that.
I'm sorry Reg-E ... I take some of it back.
Shame Pizza Slut went full retard the years following your passing.
>>341649898
>Not him, but if you think everybody wanted to be switching discs just to travel to different places in GTA you were crazy.
Who gives a shit? The game would have still worked except now and then you'd just have to get off your fat ass and swap a disk.
>>341649925
Well ok, virtual boy sold worse.
It doesn't change the fact the mobile gaming market is going to be dominated by smart phones and mobile devices like tablets. Samsung described their Galaxy Gear VR as purely a proof of concept project internally, and it has still sold five million units.
>>341650157
>your pathetic gimmicky trash
So is the PS VR a toy too by that definition?
>>341639796
He said the exact same thing about the Wii U and look how that turned out.
>>341650108
>this mad
>>341647195
What is binx the timekeeper?
>>341649797
Ultimately everyone is going to lose to phones/tablets.
That doesn't have to be bad though. As specs get better they can run bigger better games.
>>341649952
>20c per disk instead of 10c
wooooowww
>>341646604
GBA had a ton of great games.
>>341650246
Well why do you think they're making games for mobile now anon
They're already a step ahead of that
>>341650306
Everyone acknowledges VR is a shitty gimmick as bad as the Wii ever was
>>341650306
VR is here to stay. You can mock this all you want, but it IS here to stay, especially in the mobile space where they've been crying out for proper peripherals and inputs for years.
>>341650226
he brought 2 very large games to E3
Iwata was the guy who began with the "power doesn't matter" meme, so you should be blaming him.
>>341650361
I can't believe Microsoft let his IP rot.
They didn't even renew it, he's deader than Sonic
>>341639796
>that bigass pause after he question
HOLY SHIT. this guy is panicking hard.
>>341650390
>everyone is going to lose to phones/tablets.
No. The PS4 is the best-selling console of all time. PC gaming is continuing to grow. The One isn't doing as well as the PS4 but it's still not doing too badly.
>>341650428
>step ahead
>literally entered the market 7-8 years after the first smartphones
You dumb, nintendrone?
>>341639796
It confirms my assumption that it's gonna like the Wii was to Gamecube. I'm fine with it as long as it doesn't dedicate its clout to some shitty gimmick
>>341650476
>especially in the mobile space where they've been crying out for proper peripherals and inputs for years.
Is that why they have to give Samsung Gear VR away for free?
>>341641950
Those phone games sure are demanding in specs
>>341650108
But somehow it's okay that all of the PS4's best games weren't made by Sony, right?
>>341650476
>VR is here to stay. You can mock this all you want, but it IS here to stay
AKA it's okay when Sony does it
>>341650490
why is she wearing lingerie on her hands
>>341648869
>One of the best Star Fox titles alongside the original and 64.
That means literally nothing, considering 64 is the only one that isn't complete shit.
>>341650532
You really think they'd be successful if they made a high powered machine?
That won't help anon and they know it that's why they don't bother.
>>341650643
>Is that why they have to give Samsung Gear VR away for free?
Perhaps the same could be said of Wii Sports. They give away Gear for free because it locks consumers into the concept and sells software later down the road.
Learn to sales and marketing.
Specs really don't mean shit unless we are talking wiiU levels of shit again. There is a line of how shit the performance can be.
Content is the way to go for Nintendo but the wiiU had nothing and it failed. Zelda breath of wild should have been a launch title for wiiU, even then it needed more exclusives
Gamepad imo didn't fucking help either yet they're still shoving it down our throat.
>>341649640
>Muh Nintendoom
>S-S-SONY ALWAYS WINS AMIRITE????
>>341650614
Well at least they did it before their handhelds officially died off
>>341649673
>mfw I bought Godzilla
I had no idea
I thought it might be fun
fuck
>>341650697
I play most of my games on PC and have ever since I started gaming. I even own a 3DS and a Wii.
What the hell is wrong with you nintendrones?
>>341650746
>Perhaps the same could be said of Wii Sports
Nope. Casuals were buying the Wii just to get Wii Sports. Wii Sports wasn't the fucking giveaway, it was the whole reason they were buying it.
People aren't buying damn phones to get Gear VR.
>>341650532
The most successful platforms, in terms of units sold and actual money made on them, have been typically NOT been the most powerful platforms available. NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, Wii, every single Nintendo handheld, they all slaughtered the competition with games, not hardware sold at a loss.
>>341650614
>he thinks counsels are here to stay
They're a dying breed anon.
Eventually everything will be mobile.
>>341648878
"Gameplay trailer"
Actually gameplay looks like shit
>>341650614
PS4 is already tracking behind Wii and PS2.
>>341650672
>b-b-but Sony!
I have no idea what this has to do with anything. I'm talking about Reggie being a bullshit PR spinner who knows the NX is going to be a turd technologically so he's trying to make it look like Nintendo shits nothing but gold when that's not the case. Nintendo makes games that make people smile, sure, but so does nearly *every* developer. And every developer makes bad games too, Nintendo inclusive.
Just sit and think about what he said. He's implying that Nintendo is the only company that makes games that people actually enjoy. I don't care what kind of drone you are but even you should realize what horseshit this is, even if you don't happen to personally enjoy those games.
People call Sony on their lies all the time. Why is it unacceptable to point out when Nintendo does it? Why do you have to drag Sony into every argument that doesn't concern them? This isn't an elementary school playground, we can discuss what one company does without the need to compare it to another.
>>341650825
They're a conservative company, I can understand their reasoning.
But there's conservative and cautious and there's just plain arrogant. Nintendo are the latter. They treat their consumers like shit, they treat third parties like shit and they genuinely live in a cocoon where the success of the wii blinded them into thinking they could single-handedly redefine what gaming was.
Nintendo need to learn humility. For their own sake more than anything else.
>>341639796
Yea, smile in amusement at the lack of games and power their console has.
>>341650612
You've never watched the news, have you?
>>341640865
I know you are probably shitposting or just stupid but...
Thing is, Nintendrones always said stuff like "Nintendo never do bullshot!" and now when Nintendo do it (they did it with Xenoblade X though), they're conveniently ignoring it
It's kinda annoying, actually this was one of the reason of why I'm not a Nintendo fan anymore
>>341639796
>We create entertainment that make people smile
I really do hate Nintendo PR.
What the fuck do they think entertainment is?
>>341650532
No, Takeda is. Iwata was the one who embraced the "kiddy" image of the console.
>>341650916
>People aren't buying damn phones to get Gear VR.
Plenty of people are using Gear VR.
>>341650981
Not until you can fit a high-end SoC into a thing tablet, and service most major markets with 1gbps internet at least.
>>341651069
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PlayStation-4-Fastest-Selling-Console-Sony-History-70638.html
>>341650821
I know you're trying your best to bait but this image is old as baby Jesus' ass on a Subway.
>>341651356
>Plenty of people are using Gear VR.
By what metric? Units sitting in the dusty closet?
By that count plenty of people are using Kinect.
>>341651071
Nintendo are the only ones who face actual, hard criticism. Sony gets away with all kinds of bullshit, the fuck you smoking? They make movies instead of games, forced paid online, handed their online shop and dashboard to 3rd parties so you see ads and fucking DLC everywhere. To top it off almost every game on PS4 runs like fucking garbage and can't even maintain 30fps.
>>341651071
>He's implying that Nintendo is the only company that makes games that people actually enjoy.
That's not what he implied at all you idiot. Can you even point to one specific quote where this was directly implied, without putting words into his mouth? You can't, can you? You're making shit up just for the sake of argument.
>>341650715
Preteen/teen boy bait to arouse their interest and make their peeny weenies do a funny.
>>341644110
There are people that like Dominos?
>>341651285
The concept behind Kinect never had much support from wider software and hardware developers.
This simply isn't true of VR. The sheer amount of capital being plowed into the concept is staggering.
The first iteration of the hardware won't be perfect by any means, but myself and others who have actually played a few of the better Oculus and Vive demos are virtually all agreed that it's something game-changing.
>>341651319
Like I said, it's hubris.
>>341650476
Nah I rather buy 6-7 new games instead of paying 400 for VR
>>341651096
>Nintendo need to learn humility
>Implying the Wii U wasn't enough
>>341651356
>http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PlayStation-4-Fastest-Selling-Console-Sony-History-70638.html
>1 year ago
>"Sony" history
>>341646583
>it's ok when Nintendo does it!
No, it's a problem regardles of who does it.
>>341650306
No, just the PS4 alone, VR is brand new shit
>>341640156
>all these replies to this post
remember when gameplay was valued higher than graphics?
Now it feels like priorities are "Graphics > Marketing > DEEP AND PROGRESSIVE STORYTELLING > Powergap > Gamplay"
>>341650672
Nintendo set up its brand in a way that First part games are 100% the most important thing about it. Nentendo consoles almost come off as Mario boxes.
And yet their first new Zelda game for the console is coming out at the end of its life.
>>341639796
>IT'S ABOUT THE CONTENT
That coming from a manufacturerwith the biggest draughts.
>WE CREATE ENTERTAINMENT THAT MAKES PEOPLE SMILE
Their incompetence makes me laugh, not smile.
>>341651356
Fastest selling =\= best selling
It's not touching Wiis 100 million and certainly not PS2s 150 million. Numbers are shipped, not sold through to customers. 8th gen isn't looking like it will even match 5th generation totals, let alone 6th or 7th.
>>341651481
>By what metric?
By the fact the number of apps for it increases cumulatively every 3 months?
>>341651510
As an idort, this is complete and utter bullshit. Nintendo have gotten away with making an utterly mediocre Action Adventure title over and over again for the past decade and a half purely because most reviewing sites have a dedicated "Nintendo reviewer" who is about as objective about Nintendo games as MovieBob, Dobson and GaijinGoombah combined.
If NSMB had any other branding, it would be panned.
>>341651510
I don't think that is true, amiibos got off easy especially after the heads of Nintendo pretended they were above that sort of day one content bullshit.
>>341639796
He's doing the right thing though.
Look at all the 30fps games on PS4.
>>341650821
A smaller, niche audience that dick rides every signle game no matter how shit it really is.
Nice.
bayonetta 2 is the only good wiiu game.
>>341651553
>The concept behind Kinect never had much support from wider software and hardware developers.
Haha, holy shit. So it's exactly like VR right now.
>The sheer amount of capital being plowed into the concept is staggering.
On marketing I'm guessing. Cause I don't see any evidence on the game front.
>>341651607
So you're saying its sales have tapered off since then? It past the 40 mil mark months ago, and this is without a decent range of software exclusives behind it, which is going to change over the next three quarters.
>>341651553
So what's being made for VR? Slapped-on support for a few games? Skyrim had Kinect support.
>>341651510
Yeah, like where are all the threads yelling at Sony for pulling that Crash Bandicoot bait+switch bullshit? This is like if Nintendo showed an F-Zero lead-in, followed by the words "remaster". You'd never hear the end of it if Nintendo did this. Sony gets so many free passes it's insane.
>>341646698
Continue with my life? who cares? it's nintendo
>>341649923
Hello, newfriend. Lovely day today.
>>341643819
well the PS2 won that generation simply because it was probably the best and cheapest DVD player around for quite a while. So that comparison isnt entirely fair, for that fact the GC actually did a good job and has several well selling games if I remember Melee is among the most sold games of all time.
>>341651846
Amiibos don't get off easily, people make fun of it all the fucking time.
In fact, Amiibo are the only ones who get criticism. Games like Skylanders and Lego Dimensions never get any criticism
>>341640432
>bought a wii u
>got my mileage out of it with Bayo 2, Splatoon, mk8, smash, pikmin 3 and rainbow kirby
yes Im salty that Nintendo droped with wii u so early and that they keep on shitting on the games via "localisation", but the wii u entertained me long time. Wish it would have had more games but Im glad that it alteast had some games.
>>341651776
That's because this Zelda game took such a long time to make. What, would you prefer if they had just shat out a Skyward Sword rehash in 2 years instead?
>>341651949
Yes. Other companies say stupid shit too. The Scorpio allowing for the highest quality uncompressed pixels is stupid as hell.
Or added "and windows 10" at the end of every single announcement.
>>341639796
What content?
>>341651830
>By the fact the number of apps for it increases cumulatively every 3 months?
Every fucking 360 game from 2010 onwards had shoehorned Kinect support put in somewhere. Doesn't mean shit.
Means even less on the mobile front where a 12 year old can knock up some VR demo in Unity and put it on the app store in 10 minutes.
>>341639796
so where has the content been for the past two generations?
>>341651819
>It's not touching Wiis 100 million and certainly not PS2s 150 million.
O..k? It hasn't been out nearly as long as either of them. You realize that right?
>Numbers are shipped, not sold through to customers.
Likewise with the above figures. Do you think there are just 50 million spare PS2s sitting around in retailer's inventories, or that they order in new stock just for the hell of it?
>>341651921
>Haha, holy shit. So it's exactly like VR right now.
Google, Facebook (Oculus), HTC, Samsung, Sony et al are all developing VR platforms.
If you can't see how this is different from the Kinect then I'm not sure how to explain it further. One concept has wide support from a wide range of the largest hardware manufacturers and web services/software firms in the world, the other never did.
>Cause I don't see any evidence on the game front.
There are about 200-300 games being developed for the major VR platforms (not counting the Gear VR) at present. It's an entirely new platform which necessitates learning entirely new skillsets. Of course it isn't going to have a thousand titles at launch. Be reasonable.
Nintendo makes a Nintendo branded tablet that can connect to a special store with exclusive games.
Not just angry birds with Mario but real full games like you'd find on the 3DS, full scale Pokémon games and all that.
Would you buy? Tbh I'd be more interested in that than another handheld or console. Idk why none of the manufacturers have done this.
>>341639796
Holy shit, Ubisoft was right.
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/15/ubisoft-says-nintendo-nx-will-recapture-wii-players-nintendo-addressing-family-market/
>>341650226
Weren't there 3 games for the 3DS?
>>341640173
What ubi comment? Also Wii did spectacularly, it's the Wii u that flopped
>>341652268
You're comparing apples and oranges.
>Means even less on the mobile front where a 12 year old can knock up some VR demo in Unity
Go and do it then. Developers with VR experience are being paid a small fortune at companies like Facebook and Google now to rebuild their respective platforms in a VR-friendly way.
If it's so easy to simply "reskin" a piece of software, go to SV and make your first million.
>>341651521
The interviewer very directly asked how the NX will compare to Sony and MS's offering. Reggie is saying it (probably) won't in terms of horsepower but "[Nintendo] creates games that make people smile", implying that this SETS THEM APART from the other guys whose games somehow don't also do this.
You so subconsciously agree with this sentiment that you don't even realize the implication.
>>341651830
Nothing Nintendo does comes close to the bullshit pulled by western publishers. Their games aren't buggy, don't require 10GB patches, don't force paid online, generally have local play and aside from some amino cosmetics their games are light on DLC, no bullshit season passes that gate off literally a third of the games content. Fine if you don't like the games, but I could say that and all of the above about just about any recent big western game out there.
I'm not saying they're not doing stuff I don't like, but, like always, they're playing catch-up to the rest of the industry, and that includes their bullshit.
>>341641660
Actually yeah, it is. Maybe people would be more hyped for SF0 if it didn't look hilariously like a GameCube title at the reveal.
Let the downgrades come, at that point people are already hooked.
>>341652356
>One concept has wide support from a wide range of the largest hardware manufacturers and web services/software firms in the world
Where have I seen this before?
>There are about 200-300 games being developed for the major VR platforms
As I said, this is counting complete demo trash.
>>341651926
Shipped
>>341652154
Melee sold
>>341651865
Look at Zelda.
>>341639796
>MS annouces Scorpio
>Sony, we hope the PS4 can keep people going to PC
>Nintendo, it's not about teraflops.
damn, looks like the Scorpio did have an effect on the other companies.
>>341650238
>The game would have still worked except now and then you'd just have to get off your fat ass and swap a disk.
Good thing you will never work as a video game executive if you legitimately think this was a good design choice.
Hardware matters not.
Look at the NES. Judge it by its FLOPS, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not.
For my hobby is the games, and a powerful hobby it is. Fun creates it, makes it glow.
Its genres surround us, remind us. Luminous titles are these, not these crude pixels.
You must feel the games about you; on disc, on cartridge, on emu, on steam, in your backlog, yes.
Even between the keyboard and the chair.
>mfw I witnessed Nintendo commit suicide on live air
>>341652356
It's tracking behind them, meaning it has not sold as many units as they did in the same timeframe.
Sony reports shipped numbers, not sold through, and PS4 is behind those same shipped numbers for PS2.
>>341652556
>Nothing Nintendo does comes close to the bullshit pulled by western publishers.
- Physical DLC.
- Region locking.
- Overpriced, underpowered consoles.
- Constant censoring of content.
- By far the least frequent and least generous sales of all the major content delivery platforms on PC/Console.
- 5 hour games.
- Absolutely atrocious online platform out of the 1990s, even GameSpy was better.
- Selling half-finished games at full price (Splatoon).
I could go on, but you get the point.
>>341652507
>Developers with VR experience are being paid a small fortune at companies like Facebook and Google now to rebuild their respective platforms in a VR-friendly way.
Are you actually stupid enough to believe that just because large companies invest in something that will be a guaranteed success?
Cause I do remember reading some research by a prominent economist some years ago that large corporations are more often wrong in their investments then they are right.
They basically bet on everything. A couple of lucky fucks get paid fortunes developing absolutely worthless products, but that's just how business often works.
>>341652817
How many dicks do you have in your ass right now?
>>341640095
bullshots do not usually end in a generational gap between initial trailer and release
>People still engage in spec fights when PC is the undisputed king
The fuck is wrong with people? Is PC so far out of reach that they just decided it doesn't exist?Like god?
>>341652656
>Where have I seen this before?
Uh, never? Google and the Asian hardware manufacturers didn't give two fucks about Kinect.
>>341652665
You completely ignored my points. Bravo fanboy.
>>341652891
Got a source?
>Sony reports shipped numbers
So do everyone else you clueless idiot. To Sony, a retailer buying their product off the assembly line is WHERE THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY ON THE HARDWARE!
Reserving judgement until they show the fucking thing
Whenever that is
>>341653007
No anon,you are reading too much into things,it's just irrelevant as a platform
>Playstation
ps1 1994 Resolution: (256×224 to 640×480 pixel) 59fps
ps2 2000 Resolution (640*480 to 704 × 480 pixel) 59fps
ps3 2006 Resolution (720*1280 to 1080*1920 pixel) 59fps
>Nintendo NX 2016-2017
720*1280 30fps
>>341652935
as much of an Xbot that I am, Nintendo is the least cancerous of the big 3 anon. those things are peanuts compared to
>incomplete games with hundreds of dollars of DLC
>paying to play online
>movies instead of games
>>341639796
It's a mixture of things. Specs are only a small portion of it. You also need fucking games.
>>341652973
We're not going to see eye to eye on this, only time will tell.
I have no platform affiliation, I work in market analysis and I'm pretty confident that VR is here to stay. I'll leave it at that.
>>341652995
How mad are you right now?
>>341652358
I can only see this working if it has full support for app developers so the store is on par with iOS/Android but with more monitoring what goes on the store
>>341653203
>incomplete games with hundreds of dollars of DLC
What incomplete games?
Why is DLC inherently bad? You pay the price of a 20-30 hour Witcher 3 or TES expansion for a happy meal toy that gives you an extra character in a party fighting game. It's ridiculous to complain about other companies who actually do DLC right (i.e. what are essentially expansion packs).
>movies instead of games
What games do you feel do this? Why is it a bad thing for a game to have a narrative? I've been playing games since the text based RPG and p&c adventure era and from my recollection, they've always attempted to have a narrative.
>>341652998
>generational gap
Now that's just being dramatic
>>341653181
>No anon,you are reading too much into things,it's just irrelevant as a platform
It's the most used platform in the world, has always been and will always be.
>>341653641
And it's still irrelevant because consoles is where the money is made
>>341653438
you are talking specifically about RPGS there anon. of course rpgs do need to have some narrative and are usually long. but its not the case with all the other genres.
Do you remember RPG's used to be around 40-60 hours long back in the PS1 and PS2 era?
>>341647418
The only reason I wanted 3rd party games on the Wii U was because I wanted to sit in bed and play them on the gamepad, but without that I can just play them on PC for free.
Not to mention that 95% of 3rd party games are dogshit nowadays.
>>341648878
"Gameplay trailer"
I don't know what's more sad, the fact that they actually named this cinematic a "gameplay trailer" or the fact that you believed it.
>>341653818
Preach on brother. Only Nintendo can make games, everybody else is just dogshit.
>>341639796
What happened to all that 12 core quad titans performance?
>>341639796
Nintendo is done. They are making the NX as a formality only, so they can say they gave it one last shot. It's going to be a re-packaged Wii U with a new gimmick instead of the controller, just like the Wii was a re-packaged Gamecube. It's going to be another flop of apocalyptic proportions that will get buried by the new Xbox One and PS4 iterations.
>>341653796
>but its not the case with all the other genres.
Why not? I greatly preferred the older Halo (4 and 5 are utter garbage) doing the traditional "complete level --> receive narrative-heavy cutscene approach over HL2's "lock you in place in first person perspective and watch scripted scene while you move your mouse around and bad EDM music plays approach, and this is coming from a PCkek.
![xbox-360-wireless-speed-wheel-493x455[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gZCTLM3.jpg "xbox-360-wireless-speed-wheel-493x455[1]")
>>341647221
>>341654118
reading comprehension anon, I'm talking about how games should still be games instead of movies.
>>341639796
It's not about specs because they are going to try to replicate Wii's success one last time by selling yet another obsolete and underpowered console with no third party support.
>>341653965
But Monster Hunter is still good, anonymous.
the NX really does feel like Dreamcast territory
I think Nintendo are pretty fucking screwed if this doesn't gain any traction, because the continuing trend of Nintendo consoles has been steady decline in popularity. Wii was obviously different, but that audience is gone and will never return.
everything that's been said about the NX makes it sound like it's going to be even further behind MS and Sony. The real nail in the coffin though is that Nintendo don't produce nearly enough games on their systems to get the audience back in. They put out maybe 3 games a year at most that people give a shit about, which doesn't cut it.
I honestly think Nintendo are screwed
if it was just about content they'd just release games and not sell shitty gimmick consoles
>>341654603
If the NX is a hybrid then that means the entire nintendo library is on one platform, which means more games, and also pushes sales with Pokeymans every 1.5 years.
For once can't it be about specs and innovation/games?
I mean they keep saying this but just add in the other side and do really well right?
>>341653779
>And it's still irrelevant because consoles is where the money is made
No anon, there's a lot more money being made through and with PCs.
>>341654845
They make more money by providing their own platforms.
This should be painfully obvious if you think about it for more than 2 seconds.
>>341654178
I saw one of these in its box at goodwill recently. Should have bought it.
>>341654989
But that money comes from MOBA games and MMO subscriptions and microtransactions.
That isn't the future you want.
Consoles produce real games.
>>341654989
Maybe in the hardware sector,and online services but for your average developer ?
Not really
There's a reason everyone panders to console
>>341639945
hi tumblr
>>341654094
But what happens if idiots actually buy it
>>341653396
Yea maybe they'd partner with Google or apple and you'd just have access to their store but then also a separate Nintendo store.
Things are inevitably heading towards mobile and I'd just like to see someone leading the charge for real games on mobile platforms.
Right now mobile is dominated by what are essentially arcade games, they're not about finishing a story just getting high scores and micro transactions are the new "putting more quarters in the machine". Early on with consoles people mostly made arcade style/high score games for them too but Nintendo was one of the companies to help start the shift away from that. I'd like to see them do it again.
>>341652169
>the turd didn't stink to me so I ate it
>>341656718
could be litteraly said about every console
>>341655484
Every webm I've seen of new Zelda so far makes proper use of an open world map, like enemies you have to get huge distance from to attack, or non-scripted chopping trees to make a bridge. Nintendo completely lost me last gen but if this turns out to be as good as it looks i'm all over the NX
>>341643918
Ha I remember that. And the GameCube was pretty powerful compared to its rivals.
>>341657439
Gamecube was still cheap turd.
If they wanted a powerful CPU in 2001, they would have used AMD Athlon XP.
>>341643913
>>341644647
>not because of their always outdated hardware
No.
Nintendo has ALWAYS been shitty to devs, since the START.
They were almost tyranical even in the NES and SNES eras. When N64 came along and Sony entered the market as the first real competitor (by that point Sega wasn't relevant) every fucking third party jumped ship.
Every, single. one.*
*with a dozen of exceptions
And thus the PS1 golden era started and hasn't stopped.
Nintendo can do no gimmicks and competitive hardware, it still wouldn't matter. They have no third party relashionships, while Sony is almost incestuous at this point. Every dev fucking loves them, and with good reason.
>>341657032
You'd have to be retarded if you thought the Wii U was going to get major third party support down the line even if it did itd be OG wii all over again.
>>341656243
Mobile gaming will be shit for as long as it's touchscreen only.
>>341640156
You're right. No kid cares about graphics. What these pathetic manchildren are forgetting is Nintendo is aiming for little kids.
>>341639870
Lose your life.
>>341648143
>The boiling frog
I know Sony caved, but it's not entirely their fault.
Microsoft pushed the idea of paying for online, and they got away with it. The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 in the end, but it took forever, and when people didn't vote with their wallets by immediately jumping ship from the 360 to the PS3, they saw the market was now willing to accept pay-for-online.
And for this, I will never forgive Microsoft.
>It's just five dollars, bro!
That's not the point. You're being charged for something that you shouldn't be charged for. Just
God.
>>341639796
Oh cool another fail console to ignore. Wonder what retarded gimmick it will have.
If specs mattered why is the Vita such a failure?
>>341654178
what's that thing in the middle?
onahole?
>>341657750
>nintendo console
>giving a shit about multiplat third party support
you are retarded for thinking that my aim was that.
When I said "more games from ninty", i meant that. there were so much more ninty games on N64, Gamecube and Wii than on the Wii U.
I liked the wii u.
>>341648869
>I love Star Fox Zero
This is for you.http://www.bandbacktogether.com/stockholm-syndrome-resources/
>>341658203
>Implying Sony has any idea what they're doing in the handheld market
>Implying horsepower isn't a handicap in the handheld market
Remember the Game Gear?
>>341639796
post low quality stream capture of the floor...SEE DOWNGRADES?
it still looks like the pic above, but unlike sony games, it actually is a functional fun game.
enjoy ur shitty playable movies
>>341658005
>I know Sony caved, but it's not entirely their fault.
It's entirely their fault. They wanted to milk people for even more cash and PS+ is the result.
Along with $100 downloadable games+season passes.
End of the day, their killing the goose that lays the golden egg. In its present state, the insutry is funded by the credit cards of parents of spoilt underage gamers. As cost continue to spiral out of control, this fundamental resource will turn off consoles completely. Expect the 8.5 generation consoles to fail completely and the attempt at an early 9th gen to fall flat as well.
Mommy is out of patience, and out of cash.
>>341658709
It's terrible that it happened, but again, it was
>Microsoft that set the precedent
and
>the market's failure to punish Microsoft for charging for online
that led Sony to turning PSN into just a reskin of XBL.
>Along with $100 downloadable games+season passes.
That's all the AAA publishers.
>>341658305
>Buying a console that can and only will play Nintendo games.
How retarded do you have to be to want this.
>>341639796
>CONTENT
So more Mario and Zelda? How could I also forget Pokemon!
If I was a Nintendo fan, i'd be on suicide watch. At least i'm only a Metroid fan, only one step below.
>>341640865
>>its ok when 99.999% of sony previews are bullshots
said no one ever
>>341657809
Well that's probably gonna be forever anon. Well probably something will replace it but not buttons or joysticks. People like sleek and big screens, sticks and buttons are bulky and take up space that could be more screen.
>>341651716
>remember when gameplay was valued higher than graphics?
>Now it feels like priorities are "Graphics > Marketing
Sounds like you were born in 1999
i don't know if it's because i'm a 24yr old virgin PC user but why does this matter to anyone?
do you really choose your console based on raw power? i only care about the gameplay.
>gameplay can be enhanced by having more resources
yea but nintendo attempts to compensate by using a cartoony artstyle so i doubt the gap in power between a wii-u and PS4 for example would significantly affect a nintendo game's gameplay.
correct me if wrong
>>341659159
>http://nintendoenthusiast.com/article/updated-75-new-nintendo-ips-since-year-2000/
>B-b-but these are SHIT! Where's my 6th F-Zero game!?
>>341640432
Only retards bought a piiushima
>>341640865
>b-but sony
Kill yourself
>Sony & Microsoft already jumping to the new generation. Nintendo probably based the NX around the current gen.
Ninty is like that retarded kid that keeps fucking up for no reason.
>its about content
>animal crossing amiibo festival
>2 games at e3
nintendo is a parody of itself
If the console doesn't have modern hardware specs that AT LEAST allow third parties to port their shit, then Nintendo is dead.
>>341660757
The problem is that even with the cartoony art style, the new Zelda has shown to not even run a stable 30fps.
>b-but it'll run 60 on NX!
That's bullshit, and we all know it.
>>341655484
>RYUU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU
I thought Nintendo just rehashed their old stuff but also ripping off other games like that?
>>341642820
>Nintendo abandoned the casuals to focus on core gamers, actually. They dropped the focus on casuals back in 2011.
>online that is outshone by circa 2003 Xbox Live
>a slight handful of non-shovelware games
>gimmick controller no one likes
hmmmmm
>>341641092
>I mean look at the games that normies play, like Battlefield and Call of Duty
>>341662921
>3DS best game is higher than PS4 best game
wew
>>341651716
People want good gameplay, but they can't abide being on the less green grass.
![B009AGXH64hardware[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tAmgYWG.jpg "B009AGXH64hardware[1]")
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