THERE YOU GO QUAKE IS FUCKING BACK
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=44&v=RvDyLCadGGY
a)All classic quake modes including 1vs1
b)Picking up all weapons
c)Timing all items
d)Maybe more focused on Team vs Team for e-sports
e)No way its gonna get released for consoles - maximum performance and capabilities
f)Taking opinions from veteran/pro quake players, some testing it themselves (quake lab)
g)120hz unlocked fps- strafe/rocket jumping and air control (already known)
h)Classic arena style quake game with the addition of champions
>no singleplayer
Into the trash
>>341620151
>QUAKE IS FUCKING BACK
>no singleplayer
LOL
>>341620247
>>341620251
>what is q3
>>341620247
who cares
>>341620247
>>341620251
Quake 3 didn't have singleplayer either you retards
>inb4 deathmatch against bots is singleplayer
>>341620297
That's why I played it only a little bit back in the internet cafe days.
>>341620151
quake is now a twitch streamer bait.
well done humanity.
>Quake 1 SP will literally never return
>>341620467
Congrats you missed out on the greatest arena shooter of all time
>champions champions champions champions champions champions champions champions
>MUH EVOLUTION
>we want the Overwatch audience
FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341620247
is this a meme
Ranger looks like a fish
>>341620151
>120hz unlocked fps
what does this even mean???? what about 144?
>>341620647
>Q3 Arena
>Better than Unreal Tournament
>>341620151
>Let's try rebooting yet another genre that was popular 20 years ago!
>kids these days have no idea the glory that was Quake
>totally gonna be a game for old fans and new fans alike
>competitive scene finally gets the game they've been waiting for
>classic game with hip new additions!
Why do people keep falling for this shit? Don't get me wrong Quake was fucking great, but those days are long gone now.
All this nostalgia capital that these gaming companies keep using has to run out at some point, right?
never played quake before
looks fun
As long as I can play as Klesk again I'll be good.
>>341621554
I'm not OP, or a shill but did you actually watch the video? He directly addressed issues that would cause it to be a casual modernized shitpile.
>wants all movement options to be a thing
>wants it to be fast and retain the gameplay
>is focusing on PC entirely and not consoles
It sounds to me like they just want to essentially update the graphics and give players more options.
>its not MOBA I swear pls buy our game
>btw we have MOBA champions now, just sayin *wink*
What did he mean by that?
>>341621543
yes, a lot better
>>341620151
>more focused on Team vs Team for e-sports
>with the addition of champions
So it's garbage and is Quake in name only.
>>341620151
>class system
>abilities
>looks like overwatch
into the trash
>Quake
>character driven game
Nigger please.
Why is it that one game becomes popular you immediately have to have dozen of literal clones flooding the market? It's like they ran our of ideas.
This shit will obviously ride on the success of Overwatch and it will fail because developers haven't learned shit since WoW was released and there were hundreds of WoW clones which failed to gain any kind of popularity.
That old woman is most likely dead.
>no console version
There might be hope.
>>341620247
It's time to let go, anon.
On /v/ the only responses you'll get are people posting MUH QUAKE 3 by people who have never actually played it but want to look cool.
>>341621865
More like they don't understand what made Quake good in the first place, and everything that is not surface-deep will be shit.
Having classes supports my claim.
>>341620151
>hero shooter
>>341620247
Quake Arena > Singleplayer Quake.
I think some of you guys really need a refresher on how mediocre Quake singleplayer always was. Sure, the movement was always really good but everything else was really meh.
>>341620151
>rocket jumping
>strafing
>air control
>PC
but
>champions is the natural evolution of the genre
>120hz
and
>esports
>esports
>esports
not sure how I feel about this
I don't want to get in the hype train to get dissapointed but I will be skeptical enough till I see some gameplay
>>341620151
>e-sports
in the trash it goes
>>341620251
Nobody who spent years on these games gives a shit about single player.
>with the addition of champions
So it's shit?
>>341622651
Quake's weapons are alright and the enemy design is good without needing two dozen different mook types, carried by fantastic level design that makes great usage of compact 3d spaces without resorting to backtracking mazes or wall-humping.
Quake singleplayer is better than Doom singleplayer. Fight me.
It better have a mode where the "champion" shit is disabled and everyone is the same, the last thing Quake needs is a cancerous counterpicking meta like overwatch
>>341622554
Its kinda sad, imagine the hilarity if they made a crossplatform multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJN1VvfHO4M
>>341622785
>>341622818
There's nothing wrong with dev support for a competitive game, and Quake is -the- competitive game.
The problem is that nuQuake is garbage MOBA Overborn shit.
What the fuck is a champion
does it have unique weapons? unique movement skills? weird ass abilities like wallhack or traps or whatever? How the fuck will they meld things like that with the classic quake gameplay, which is streamlined as shit?
>>341622627
>More like they don't understand what made Quake good in the first place, and everything that is not surface-deep will be shit.
If the hardcore Quake fans had their way, they'd be bunnyhopping around textureless rooms shooting hitboxes and wondering out loud why nobody wants to play the game with them.
The guys from Giga/GameOne/Rocketbeans are pretty based.
Eddy has recently BTFO Kojima and all the Kojima cocksuckers.
That rant was hilarious.
>>341620151
DOA
Overwatch already exist.
Quakefags forever destroyed.
The core reason why Quake 3 was so good was near-perfect balance of weapons (something UT2004 utterly fucking failed at), if you introduce meme abilities shit goes out of the window.
>>341621865
Yeah, I don't believe sales people as a general rule. I'll wait until the product is out and people can play it before believing anything they say.
>>341623231
If casual ASSFAGGOTS had their way, Quake would have custom classes that you get to choose, with each one giving your character a special ability or advantage over others.
Oh wait...
>>341623410
There's nothing wrong with asymmetrics.
Good day.
>>341620430
It is literally a mode with a singular player.
By definition singleplayer.
>>341623410
>casual
How is it casual to not dedicate your entire life to a single multiplayer game while ignoring the thousands of other great games out there? Quake fans might be hardcore, but they're not hardcore video game enthusiasts.
>>341623572
Yeah, that.
>>341623570
There is everything wrong with asymmetrical starts when the entire series is defined by players all spawning the same.
>>341620151
plsbegudplsbegudplsbegudplsbegud
BUT IS THERE ARMOR PICKUP?
>>341620575
Quake was fucking made for spectating you retard.
>>341620151
What will the tickrate be?
>>341623812
So basically, if I'm following you correctly, your argument is "It's not Quake"?
>>341623096
>haven't seen an ounce of gameplay
>saying what it is and what it's not
fuck off already
>>341620598
Modern devs cannot into classic FPS level design so a new singleplayer Quake game wouldn't come close to matching Quake 1's greatness anyway.
>>341623362
cont
Quake is a game of resources. Controlling weapon spawns, and blue/red power-ups is the way to get the upperhand and direct the flow of the game, eventually getting to level where you just run the spawns and break your opponent. Look at this match entirely won through strategic movement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcwvZTYu9n8
Now imagine what happens if you throw some ITS HIGH NOON instagib bullshit in the mix
>>341624137
They say it's going to be anywhere from 6,000 to 12,000. Maybe 20,000 or higher, if the Quake pros complain hard enough. Tick rate is directly proportional to how deep a game is, so realistically, you get into the millions, and videogames become deeper than sports. Then you get into the billions, and it will be deeper than life itself. Can't wait for that to happen, gonna be sick.
>>341624120
Yeah.But like Doom 4, it's just a second health bar and doesn't simply reduce health damage taken like in the old games.
>>341624280
Yes. God forbid I expect a Quake game to play like Quake.
>>341624301
I don't need to see any gameplay to know that custom classes are going to ruin the entire game.
Why are you pretending to be hyped ?
no singleplayer = trash
it would be hard to top Doom 2016 anyway
also most of you will get rekt in MP, just go play Reflex ( 10 bucks on steam ), or the UT beta, and see if you like it so much
for most people its nostalgia more than anything
I'm having way more fun playing brutal doom & co than this shit, elitist game.
>inb4 get good
cant wait for the flow of butthurt when this releases and it flops hard because no one has the commitment to get gud, and it turns into another forgetable multiplayer fps.
the glory days of playing quake and cs at the internet cafe are over lads
>>341620151
>Quake
Ancient oldfags leave.
Your genre is dead.
Goodbye.
>>341620151
>with the addition of champions
It isn't not an arena shooter then. Literally no one wanted this. Fuck off with this shit.
>>341620151
>The interviewer is Schwarzenegger
>Champions
>Champions
>Champions
If Champions is their version of TF2 classes or Overwatch heroes, then Quake is going to suck fucking dick.
In fact, it probably will either way. The new Unreal Tournament, Quake Live and Reflex cover my AFPS needs.
>>341624305
No, nobody actually tried. They have a huge set of old excellent maps that just need a reskin. Also, the maps introduced in QL were quite good too.
>>341620151
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DELETE THIS WE JUST RELEASED OUR NEXT BIG INSTALLMENT AND QUAKE WILL KILL IT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SABOTAGE QUAKE HELP
>>341624512
get the fuck off my lawn, kid
>>341624735
>he actually believes that the new Quake will be successful
>>341624453
Dude, we have the "pure quake" games out there right now. They're called quake live, reflex and maybe toxikk. Guess what - nobody fucking plays them, save for QL and even that is on it's last breath. They need to pull in people and compromise to some degree. I'll gladly accept it if it remains fast as fuck and includes strafejumping and timing items.
Why the fuck does people whine about nuQuake being aimed towards e-sport when the first Quake was one of the pioneers of e-sport?
I'm legit hype
>>341624986
it will be mark my words.
>>341624473
>quake
>caring about singleplayer
kek
>>341625143
>hero shooter
>abilities and ultimates
Get cancer and die.
>>341624453
>But like Doom 4, it's just a second health bar and doesn't simply reduce health damage taken like in the old games.
except for red armor, which does function that way.
made for a layer of decision making about when to replace red armor when it was getting low.
>>341620151
>Blablabla and no gameplay shown
How about you call me when there's gameplay footage?
You missed:
> Made by a D-tier dev and is going to feel like shit to play.
>>341622825
i do asshole, been playing Q since 1996
it'll be good
disable the abilities etc for the "classic arena style quake game" mode and it may get a pass
otherwise fail
>>341624453
There's a lot of cool shit that FPS games (and 3D action games) have been doing for the last twenty years. Evolve. You sound like the dudes who whined that StarCraft would be ruined if you let them select more than twelve units at a time. (And no, that's not the reason StarCraft II sucked.)
>>341625274
That's a completely different thing you are criticising, though.
>>341622884
unfair since Q1 had true 3d
>More hardcore and actually balanced version of Overwatch
It'll be amazing. Name it whatever you want, i don't give a crap. If you throw actual quake into the mix it'll be amazing.
>>341625625
Why don't we just add loadouts, weapon attachments, and a sprint button with your logic?
The best thing about quake 2 was the soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALBKFB28E0M
>>341624512
Go play your EA / Bugsoft shit, boy!
""Class based"" but not in the team fortress or enemy territory style, more like the MOBA shit style. This trash is dead on arrival desu
>>341625796
That and Rage (song, not game) are my GOAT ost songs
>>341624360
i love quake because it's the only fps with map control elements like that. having to memorize weapon and powerup timings and hording them the best you can. i think is just intelligent design
>>341624512
maybe, but your nu fps genre has nothing that sticks and gets recycled terribly and will never have games that are FONDLY remembered for decades as good games or as industry changing projects
enjoy your trash
>ITT i have only played quake 3 for internet credz
>>341620151
>g)120hz unlocked fps- strafe/rocket jumping and air control (already known)
What about 144? Doom can do it.
>>341625857
There has been absolutely no information about in which ways the characters will be classed, literally all we know is that visor has wallhacks, ranger has a teleport, and memegirl has a different teleport
>>341625748
Why don't we add proper movement skills and better game modes and flexibility for larger and more interesting gametypes and combiine them with bigger maps and better ideas than hoarding spawns?
Asymmetrical abilities actually sound like they could be interesting if done properly, and it's only a problem if the skillset is limited to begin with, as it IS in Team Fortress and Overwatch and whatever shitty loadout game all the kiddies are playing.
>>341624735
Post Overwatch player's faces when they pick up the new Quake and realize they had been playing a baby's game all that time.
>>341623362
>near-perfect balance of weapons
>rl, rail and gl
>other weapons collect dust
>>341620151
>PC only
get fucked console fags
They need to remove the traditional quake movement or simplify it somehow otherwise it's never going to get any traction because it's far too inaccessible for new players and the dwindling ql crowd can't keep a game alive
>abilities
this is why overwatch is insufferable
>>341620151
okey
you got my attention.
now Iam legit hype.
>>341626368
Strafe Jumping at a low level is so fucking easy, you just need a 10 second in-game video to explain that you jump, hold left, and move the camera a little bit, then switch directions when you land. It's the simplest concept in the world, anyone can do it.
>>341624280
>So basically, if I'm following you correctly, your argument is "It's not Quake"?
This is one of the two arguments that arena shooter nostoligiafags use to rationalize disparaging any new arena shooter out hand and never playing it.
At their core, A.S.N.F do not actually want to play arena shooters (otherwise they would be playing quake or ut right now), but rather use arena shooters as an excuse to be contrarian about contemporary games. This is why every arena shooter is dead (including quake live), but you have all these mouth breathers who come out of the woodwork claiming that they wish people would bring back arena shooters because COD/BF/etc. totally sucks man. This phenomenon also applies in spades for RTS games.
I genuinely feel sorry for the companies that get duped by these losers into making arena shooters and old school shooters in general, under the impression that a market exists for them (e.g. toxikk, reflex, ROTT).
>Come expecting Seriosu Sam
>Get Quake Fortress instead
I think it's pretty cool that they're fleshing out the Quake 3 characters more. I hope they go so far as to include the really weird ones like Orbb.
>>341626562
I would be playing quake right now except it is 5am and no one is on. I would be playing warsow right now except no one is on ever. Your argument is invalid.
>>341626562
I frequently play UT4. I also still play 99 and 2k4. Never got into Quake because I'm a filthy casual.
>>341626107
>as it IS in Team Fortress and Overwatch and whatever shitty loadout game all the kiddies are playing.
this
different classes should have fuckhuge repertoires, instead of just being inverse cripples who only has one or two things that they do well
give all the classes complex movement and aim, and give them all like six guns each
>>341625889
>our guy isn't making the soundtrack for QC
0/10
>>341626163
Perfect balance does not mean that all weapons are equal in all situations. Obviously machinegun is weak, but its your starting weapons, rail is good for sniping, shaft for middle, and RL and plasma for close range combat, grenade launcher is good for map control, in other words the game does three things:
1. It encourages you to switch weapons depending on situation
2. It encourages you to change you play style depending on what weapons you currently have at hand
3. It encourages you to control the map in a way that makes getting these weapons hard for your opponent
>>341620151
>Classic arena style quake game with the addition of champions
This is literally all I needed to hear to be hyped
>>341627184
>machinegun is weak
It's an LG with less damage but infinite range, the ideal weapon for finishing off low health people who are far away when you don't have rail
>quak is back!!!
>no single player
single player quake was the shit
>>341623042
Reminded that the Dreamcast version of Quake 3 supported KB/M.
As in, people with KB/M were playing against people with one analog stick
Also am I crazy or does that video have jazzy Christmas music?
>>341627398
Quake 3 is the only Quake that exists
REFLEX BOTS WHEN
>thinking arena shooters will ever come back
It's a dead genre for a reason
>>341626720
They better bring back Mynx.
>>341627697
what is the reason
>>341625393
See you at Quakecon, then.
>>341627492
It pains me that there are people who think this way.
>>341623042
they did!
on the dreamcast version could pay against PC players
though, DC did have KBM support so it wasn't that outside of the realm of not dying as quick
>>341627758
It has no mass apeal in the 21st century
>>341626562
This so much. It's just like when I played CS 1.6 back in the day. The reason I don't play CS:GO is because my interests changed, but I can still look back at the 1.6 days and reminisce fondly, which doesn't change the fact that I'm no longer the target audience for these games. And that's exactly what nostalgiafags do, they want to enjoy those times again despite the fact that they're only interest in the nostalgia and not the game itself. A game that's driving force is nostalgia alone is destined to be a commercial failure.
>>341627858
that's basically a tautology
>>341627492
Kinda like how Brutal Doom WAS Doom 1.
They're taking the most exciting parts of what people remember and removing everything else
>>341627840
Quake 3 is the 2% milk of Quake, it's the best one and there is no reason to even look at others
>with the addition of champions
dropped
>>341627705
i hope they bring doom back
>Tim Willits
They still let that retard work there?
>>341627991
That's actually why I'm hype for the new quake. I don't care for reflex and the like because it's essentially a reskin. I wan't a new game that will scratch that arena itch, but a bit different all the same. And I really fucking hope they pull it off.
>>341628118
>2% is better than whole milk
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>341628016
Look up any arena shooter of the last 10 years, from Warsow to Reflex, on Steamspy and look at the player numbers. You'd be hard pressed to find anything besides Quake live that has more than 100 active players.
>>341628016
A=A is a tautology. Something that's always true under any circumstance.
>>341628218
Of course they will, as a special character you get for pre-ordering DOOM2016's new DLC pack. And of course he'll use nu-Doomguy's appearance.
>>341628250
>Press Q for free kills
I won't play it.
>>341628218
More likely than any other classic character really.
Unless they plan on implementing the armor customization that DOOM 2016 multiplayer has, which I really wouldn't mind
>>341620151
Tim Willits is based. I really like his Doom and Quake levels. Plus he's an old school guy that's been there from the beginning. Wish him success.
>>341628407
There's not gonna be that LMAO
Are you stupid? Watch the trailer again
>>341623134
From they way he says it it seems to be a specific character with a specific ability but movement, hitbox and weapons remain the same for everyone.
>>341628118
>2% better than homo
I've never seen an opinion MORE WRONG in all my years on /v/
KEK
EK
K
>>341620151
>Q3 babbys think this is the real Quake
>Q2 babbys content with generic sci-fi shooty-shoot
Will there ever be a true Lovecraftian Quake or at least a successor to it?the answer is no, fuck this gay earth
>>341628476
What part of hero shooter did you not understand?
>>341628218
Sure, as a legendary skin ;^)
Only like $15.99 senpai
>better meta
>better experience
>hurr champions
>natural evolution
Buzzwords buzzwords it's gonna be shit.
>>341628349
>>341628316
it's a tautology because something having no mass appeal in *current year* is basically the same as saying that it's dead right now, because being dead in this context is being very unpopular
>>341628594
>muh lovecraftian
>nothing to do with lovecraft
stop this buzzword because it actually hurts me
>>341628457
>More likely than any other classic character really.
They already brought Ranger back, and you literally can't get more classic than that regarding Quake.
>>341626162
>be me Overwatch pro player
>decide to try out the next big esports after blizzard failed to deliver a balanced competitive game
>pick up Quake Champions on steam
>decide to skip over any training mode, pffft who needs tutorials this will be easy with my pro Overwatch strats.
>hop onto ranked 1v1 match for the first time, some faggot named Failtal1ty on the server.
>crack knuckles, type into chat: don't take it personnel, kid.
>pick up granade launcher because i'm a Junkrat main and it easily counters anything.
>opponent proceeds to beat me 666 to -10
>spamming grenades doesn't work, don't hit him once
>try pressing Q to win, that doesn't do anything.
>no ults whatsoever, how is this guy winning without any ults.
>must be hacking.
>rage quit and tremble in rage, hugging my D.VA body pillow tight.
>calm down for a second
>go onto casual game modes and get railed to death by low ranking players who just started the game as well
>there are no waifus i can at least latch onto
>all the champions are disfigured beasts i can't fap to
>there are no gold medals to make me feel better
>decide this game is for plebs and old people, such an outdated game
>move back to overwatch as i heard they just released a new hero who has bigger breasts than Mei.
>>341628718
>final boss is literally shub-niggurath
>nothing to do with lovecraft
are you meming or is this stupid
>>341628718
>nothing to do with lovecraft
>fucking shub-niggurath is the final boss
>>341628598
What part of "classic arena shooter" don't you understand?
What they're going to do is take Quake 3, give each character a gimmick ability like the teleport, phase shift, and bull rush from the trailer and then call it a day
BTFO retard
>>341620151
>more focused on Team vs Team for e-sports
>with the addition of champions
Quake is dead, and its corpse is being defiled by greedy jews.
>>341628832
>>341628874
please stop because it hurts my soul
>>341620151
It's marketing. There will most definitely be a console port, it's a no-brainer. However it just might be built mainly with PC in mind based on what he's said so that's pretty good.
>>341628718
>first and final boss literally taken from Lovecraft
>posterboy monster is another Lovecraft monster
>arena shooters
>2016
game is going to die so fast because of the lack of interest from the general public.
>>341628718
This.
I literally never saw anyone describe Quake as Lovecraftian until champions was announced
>>341620247
Quake 1 and 2 are great. Play them if you haven't. Even Quake 4 was ok.
>>341625912Bungie Era Halo was like that aswell. I remember some Halo 3 pros actually did pretty decent in Quake leagues since both games emphasize map control heavily.
>>341628960
you have no idea about Lovecraft and should stab yourself in the dick
>>341621865
>this is trying too hard to be like old quake
>i'm not going to pay for this when i can just play old quake
series dies.
>>341628883
Arena shooter and hero abilities are mutually exclusive.
>>341628993
>I've literally never been in a Quake thread before
>>341623305
Fuck off toddler. You must be 18+ to post on this bread.
post yfw they're going to give ranger a voice beyond HUUGH
>>341628993
Then you're a pleb
http://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/kell.quaddicted.com
/stuff_lovecraftinquake.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_(video_game)#Plot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEcYylHhQvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OipJYWhMi3k
>>341629059
Halo 1-3 were actually arena shooters. They were just slow and controllers made it impossible to aim.
the wider audience doesn't want quake, it'll retain its core players which are in the 4 digits now but nobody actually wants to play quake
it'll be like "woo, quake, arena shooters, yeah" for like two months and then it won't be fotm anymore
If anyone with some sway over the development of the game has half a brain they'll make it so there's a matchmaking option to play some kind of "Classic Mode" where all the abilities and stat changes (if there are any) are disabled, or make a custom lobby option where you can do it.
Some of the previous Halo games have done the same thing so ideally they will follow suit.
Crash reveal when?
>>341629171
I wouldn't mind if it was still Trent Reznor.
>>341623570
You can have asymmetric playstyles; asymmetric matchups to the point where you're hardcountered is dumb.
>>341629334
The fact that it was slow made it work on consoles. Fuck now I want to play Halo 1/2/3.
>>341629370
>QU5KE Crash
>scaled town tits, no exposed midriff, retarted new Doomguy helmet
>>341629343
>Blizzdrones already on suicide watch
>>341629729
Nah, that's not Crash. They called her Nix or Nyx or something similar in an interview.
>>341629131
>>341629131
not an argument
go fuck off retard
>>341620151
At this point I'd rather you be a shill than a retard who legitimately believes this.
>>341629646
halo 5 is pretty fast.
>>341629845
I don't have any device that can play overwatch friend, I'm just saying it how it is
>>341620151
You mean Quake 3 is back. Quake 1 sequel is still MIA.At least the mapping community is still alive and churning out quality.
>>341629302
Shit, that first one is a pretty interesting read. Thanks for linking it.
>>341620151
You know I was a bit critical when I saw it at the E3 conference but Im kinda hype now
>>341621543
Mmmmmister Crow
QUAD DAMAGE
>>341628993
then you're retarded, dont read a lot or under age b&
>>341620151
That is actually a good interview for once. The interviewer doesn't kiss the ass of the guy he's interviewing and actually asks the questions people care about from a position of scepticism rather than handing out opportunities to spout marketing bullshit that doesn't really inform anyone.
>>341630362BZZHWWEEEWWZZZZ
>>341620151
Rocket Beans?
fucking nice
>>341627492
People like this make me shake my head. Not even Quake fans like Quake fans.
>>341630362REGENERATION
I hope they bring the quad back too
>>341628781
good post i can tell u worked hard on this
>>341629302
>unironically posting Errant Signal
>>341621543
>Unreal Tournament
>Better than Unreal Tournament 2004
>>341624360
>ITS HIGH NOON instagib bullshit
they are smarter than that
I imagine most abilities would be movement abilities: ranger have translocator, mynx has the mist shit... and map awareness like visor wallhack.
>Q:C won't have any classic waifus
HUNTER WHEN
CRASH WHEN
>>341630987
>dat hunter
Why even live
>>341627705You are now aware she has visible eyes.
>>341630674
Only to illustrate that the idea of Quake being lovecraftian is not new or unpopular. The fact that you have memes at the ready for Errant Signal is just proving my point that it's hard to miss the lovecraftian themes of Quake.
>>341631068
No she doesn't, that visor is opaque.
It's not like JC Denton's glowing blue eyes.
>>341628781
>all the champions are disfigured beasts i can't fap to
fucking disgusting body shaming cisscum
>>341630481HUMILIATION
>>341620430
Yeah and it was fucking shit and disappointing as fuck
>>341631126
Lovecraft was only really a major factor in the first Quake.
>>341620151
huh... maybe it won't be complete shit
did they confirm id tech 6?
>>341631151
What are those big eyeballs then? Also she looks like she's wearing goggles.
>>341620247
This.
Who gives a fuck if there is no single player (the best part of quake 1+2).
Quake multiplayer is just for try hard faggots. I was so fucking hyped until I noticed it was just the shitty part of the game they were making
>>341631068
>tfw can't unsee it now
fuck you
>>341623362
>>near-perfect balance of weapons
>No reason to use anything other than the Rocket Launcher and Rail gun other than the fact you don't have those two weapons
>Balanced
>>341620151
>h)Classic arena style quake game with the addition of champions
its been proven no one wants these anymore. there are a huge number already in existence right now and nobody plays them. people like to pretend they want them to appear old school but they go right back to their CSGO afterwards
just make an other trend setting single player experience you FUCKS. Make Quake 1 with all the story elements the original team didn't have time to complete.
>>341621543
imo q3 is overhyped because while faster than unreal at first, the movement system rarely transfers into combat. where as in unreal youre able to make use of the dash and how itll interact with you environment
>>341631303
Nobody claimed otherwise
>>341628781
I don't give a shit about overwatch and I'm very skeptical about QU, but that was great
good on you, anon
>>341631541
perfect
All I heard were buzzwords about champions and revolutionizing the genre and bringing in fresh ideas and all that bullshit.
It's dead.
>>341631048
>Gender: Female
>Genotype: Human
>Height: 6'6" (1.98m)
>Weight: 170 lbs. (77 kg)
>an inch taller than Ranger and a full half-foot taller than Doomguy
>not even cyborg-enhanced (so >>341630987 is inaccurate)
I can't handle that much woman. Jesus Christ.
>>341620151
GJ completely glossing over how much he emphasizes the champions
enjoy playing overwatch with faster movespeed
>>341631865
>not even cyborg-enhanced
I'd drop her if it wasn't hunter, y'know
>>341628781
>implying Quake Champions won't be casualized shit
It already is confirmed for having classes.
Otherwise, not a bad pasta
>>341631834
Remains to be seen anon, a lot of people shit on Wolfenstein and DOOM but they turned out to be modern shooters that stayed true to their rootsUnless youre an anon who hates them, then i dont know if you even have fun anymore
>>341630909
>they are smarter than that
They are? the same company that added loadouts to ql, and released new doom, rage, and skyrim is smarter than that?
>>341632180
Are you retarded?
What did Id have to do with Skyrim?
>>341631468
Not only is that wrong (there's a reason to use every weapon except the plasma gun but that's due to latency making it an unreliable weapon), but weapon balance does not take place in a vacuum: availability and ease of access of the weapon and its ammo are factors that need to be considered when determining whether a weapon is balanced or not.
>>341631492
>its been proven no one wants these anymore
No it's not. A bunch of ugly indie games failing is not proof there is no demand for good arena shooters anymore (I don't mind ugly but the fact is they have absolutely no visibility or larger market appeal)
>>341631548
Yeah strafe jumping gives out of combat mobility and a little bit of combat mobility, while dodge jumping gives a lot of combat mobility and a little bit of out of combat mobility. Even though I think Quake's movement is better designed, I like ut2k4's system and there's a lot of neat jumps you can do to navigate the map in different ways.
>>341629869
By definition it is no longer an arena shooter. All you've been doing is saying "no BTFO LMAO" like a child.
>>341622651
Quake 2 is one of the best single player FPS ever made, anon...
I'm not THAT mad about no single player, but, it would be nice....
>>341620151
EVERYTHING I WANTED AND PC ONLY HAHAHAHA
FUCKING AMAZING
GET FUCKED NAYSAYERS! QUAKE IS BACK!
>>341629729
>rainbow colored hair
Oh boy here we go...
So I tried to play Quake a few times previously, but I just couldn't get into it. Same with Quake 2.
Today I installed a mod called "Quake 1.5" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60wQD1u4VZg&ab_channel=jackoneill45) and now I found myself enjoying it a lot more. I figured out what was my problem with Quake.
The guns are ass.
In an FPS the most important thing is arguably the guns and Quake's guns just felt so lame after playing Doom, it's hard to imagine it's done by the same guys. Now if only there was a mod that added muzzle flashes to Quake 2 that would be grand.
I find it a shame that the new Quake will be multiplayer only, because there's a lot of potential in the series for an amazing singleplayer game, especially Quake 1's weird giant electric yetis.
>>341631865
Sucks there's so little art of old id characters, or old arena shooter playermodels in general. Unreal has a bit more art but even that's a quest and a half to find.
>>341632492
>No it's not.
Because just because they have the official Quake license, that means they're automatically going to create the perfect Quake MP experience?
why is there no single player?
>>341632558
The fucking stupid haircut is what gets me more than anything else about her design.
>>341632653
esports
>>341632602
That rocket launcher looks totally retarded.
I hope you're at least not using fucking Dorkplaces.
>>341632398
I think he's getting them confused with Bethesda since they own id
>>341632602
Quake 2 is dog shit
>I figured out what was my problem with Quake. The guns are ass.
Quake 2? ok. Original Quake? really?
>>341622825
organized speed running literally started with quake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhzXKMqZBBc
>>341632665
It's impractical because she's basically a walking neon that draws attention to the eyes. It's just stupid.
>>341632602
>The guns are ass.
The shotguns are ass and that's it. Are you sure you played through at least the first episode before you started installing mods
>e)No way its gonna get released for consoles - maximum performance and capabilities
I'll believe that amdecade after release. If Firaxis bitched out and was spineless enough to give a major PC exclusive for console sales, so will id.
>>341632653
There hasn't been a single player quake game worth playing since quake 1
>>341632180
ql is dead either way. its time is was simply over
rage is dead. nobody give a shit about it and they dont even force id to do something like it again.
skyrim is a success, fallout 4 was a success. but they are neither multiplayer game nor made by Id, or announced as pc exclusive or some esport shit.
nu doom has decent single player that tick all the boxes of why d1 2 are good. They will never remake d1 2, mind you, because in this day and age it's impossible to sell AAA game like that. Id isnt some east yurop company that can work for vodka and potatoes. If your main selling point is singleplayer, you'd better get that ass on consoles.
>>341632641
No, there is no way newQuake ends up being good (DooIV! was a pile of shit, both MP and SP) . You misunderstood me, I was just addressing the argument that there is no demand for good arena shooters anymore, I wasn't implying that Bethesda-Id is going to make a good one.
>>341632048
Neither of those games brought in a mechanic that went completely against the core gameplay elements and then defended it in interviews with meaningless buzzwords.
It's clear this slop is just trying to ride on the ASSFAGGOT and Overwatch success.
>>341633061
quake 2
>>341632969
Also, non-ponytail, long hair in any kind of serious situation.
Really though that haircut is like they traced Nancy from the HR department and colored her hair neon blue.
Well if you want to show Bethesda you better start spamming their forums with your disgust about this abomination.
>>341633152
>DooLV was a pile of shit
No
>>341633294
>quake 2
>the birth of the lame generic scifi strogg story line
really? Not to mention q2 plays like shit
>>341622651
The original quake had map design that has yet to be matched. The weapons are a little bit weak, but the enemies are memorable. You are wrong by saying quake single player is not good.
>>341632969
>walking neon that draws attentionmaybe that's the point of the champion/hero/class
>>341633274
I never tried Wolfenstein because it's 30gb and doesn't interest me in the first place, but DooIV! certainly did.
>>341633373
Yes.
>>341620151
haha no...
>>341620151
#scrubsgotold
>>341633325
>non-ponytail, long hair in any kind of serious situation.
>>341633419
Nigga what? Quake 2 was really fun. Admittedly i never played quake 1. They were both before my time but I played quake 2 on steam and loved it.
>>341633729
>porno queen
Stopped reading there.
>>341632771
That's a super nailgun.
Unless you're referring to the video
>>341632915
Sorry anon, but they just don't feel good for me
>>341632973
Last time I played I got to the vore boss fight and stopped playing. Right now I'm on E2M6
So Champions and "hero abilities" are just relegated to a few modes and doesn't dominate the whole package?
If that's the case then everyone wins.
>decide to see if there's any good content on doom snapmap
>nope, just a billion variations of HEY GUYS CHECK OUT THIS TOTALLY UNIQUE HORDE MODE I DESIGNED
Fuck ID
>>341633876
>all time peak: 177
>2 years ago
>ALL TIME
>177
LMFAO I feel bad for laughing but god damn
>>341633798
>Quake 2 was really fun
>i never played quake 1
and that's where you should have reconsidered posting
>>341633661
>but DooIV! certainly did.
What gameplay mechanic did D44M introduce that completely went against the core gameplay mechanics.
If you say glory kills you're a retard and haven't played the game.
>>341633936
I meant the video, yes.
>>341633881
>expecting characters in an arena fps to be dressed for combat
Why, back in my day we had four pixels of stomach to look at and by God did we jack off to it just fine!
>>341633951
This couldn't end well.
>>341633876
I didn't think these numbers could be right, so I thought that most people play this through a non-steam client. Turns out there is no non-steam client. Good lord.
>>341634087
I like it more than the default rocket launcher. I never really liked how the RL and GL looked.
>>341634087
Where's Crash?
>>341632048
Wolfenstein was done by MachineGames, not id.
>modern shooters that stayed true to their roots
I wouldn't say that either, Wolfenstein became a more story focused game that tried to be both serious and campy, while the new Doom mimicked more closely to Painkiller than the original Doom
>>341620151
>classes
Literally the worst thing to happen to FPS games.
Thanks, faggots.
>>341634259
The problem is the game focused way too much on hardcore 1v1 game play, It should've focused more on DM/CTF etc because lots of people can play that at once, and leave the 1v1 dueling to the hardcore.
That, and it doesn't offer anything really that Quake 3 doesn't already offer
It's just a prettier and more polished version of quake 3 Duel mode.
>The Arenas animation will never get a second season
The animation was ass at some points, but it was pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjj-m3yuo70
>>341633876
DELETE THIS.
>>341633876
FUCKING DELETE THIS ITS IN EARLY ACCESS YOU FUCK
>>341634087
>Maining anyone but doomguy, quakeguy or grunt
Its as if you hate fun
>>341628939
console fags are this delusional, hahaha, kill yourself son of a whore.
PC MASTER RACE 4 LIFE.
>>341634381Crash isn't real.
Everyone else was brought into the Arenas from their own times and places. Crash was created by the Vadrigar to train new recruits and was based off the strongest warrior they had yet seen, that being Doomguy.
She only appears in the training stage and directly mentions non-player characters, and her visor shows nothing but static.
>>341634069
not him but
>leveling, gaining abilities
>double jumping,ledge climbing
>enemies dropping health/ammo
I don't think Doom4 SP is bad, but it doesn't feel anything like doom1&2 to me
>>341628218
i hope they bring bones back
>quake is all about multiplayer
who started this meme
>>341624986
People held the same opinions about the new wolfenstein and doom.
>>341628218
Hopefully they bring in the original design.
The new design is shit.
>>341633876
It's getting better with each update. They just added casual/competitive rulesets, downloading maps from the workshop instead of the server (so you never need to worry if a server has a map when you callvote [map], it just pulls it from the workshop if it doesn't and you're good to go), xp (meaningless for now), performance pass, and an experimental ruleset to play with weapon damage values and phyiscs. I've had the game since it's been in EA and it feels like the player retention, average playtime is better recently.
I'm mostly a casual player and have been able to find ffa servers whenever I've tried playing.
Honestly, Reflex has slightly fewer players than the new UT.
At this point, I think it's a race to whichever game has proper matchmaking first.
>>341634967
The people who are still playing Quake after 16 years, unlike you singleplayer faggots who played it for 3 hours and then were basically done with it.
>>341632614
have some bonus shit drawings i made years ago
>>341634831
>leveling, gaining abilities
What? You have a problem with unlocking alternate fires for your guns and upgrading them by completing optional challenges? Sorry you hate fun and replayability, Anon.
>double jumping,ledge climbing
>enemies dropping health/ammo
Neither of these go against core DOOM gameplay, and infact compliment it and encourage them.
If you don't like them that's cool, but don't pretend that mechanics that encourage fast-paced aggression kill the fast-paced aggression in a game about fast-paced aggression.
>no singleplayer
>tfw you won't be able to fight xaero again
it hurts
>>341635086
It doesn't matter how good the game is, there is no long-term audience for it.
>>341634069
Actually I played the game, and no matter how much you may want it, you can't refute the argument that glory kills and the pinata mechanic go against DOOM's core mechanics by insulting people, Bethestard. It considerably hurts ammo and health management along with exploration (both of which were significant aspects of DOOM), and it's also bad for plenty of other reasons.
There's also level design along with other things, but instead of writing it out I'll just link this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9scguKZSS-U
>>341635262
looks like krillin
>>341635237
I like 'em, saved.
>>341620151
>/vr/ (aka: people that actually played and still discuss play and discuss quake) is excited for this
>/v/ (higher underaged population that majorly consists of people that have played never quake) is dreading this
huh.......... makes you think......
>>341634087
how is eye allowed in comp!!
If it has a 'classic' mode or something similar where the classes get turned off and it's just classic quake duel I'll play it.
I used to get on ql every couple of months because it's just a fun, rewarding game to play then they added a price tag and changed the game and I haven't touched it since.
Dota2 is evidence that an old game just remade in it's pure form for a new generation can find its former glory.
>>341635212
>unlike you singleplayer faggots who played it for 3 hours and then were basically done with it.
>somehow implying there aren't people still actively playing and making maps for Quake 1, almost twenty years to the day later
>>341620247
Quake is primarily known for its MP, most notably Quake 3's.
>>341635362
>glory kills and the pinata mechanic go against DOOM's core mechanics by insulting people
How? By forcing you to engage to not die in a game that's about nothing but shooting demons?
>Bethestard
sick meme insult, Anon. You know Bethesda didn't develop this game, right?
>It considerably hurts ammo and health management
When was DOOM ever about this? Oh, it wasn't? You're just a turbo autist that hates change? k
>exploration (both of which were significant aspects of DOOM),
Funny you're complaining about this when exploration is objectively better and more incentivized than it's ever been in the series. You have collectibles to find, hidden levels to find, armor and weapon mods to find, new weapons to find, powerups and map data and ammo upgrades and now with vertical exploration and hold on I'm starting to think you haven't actually played the game
>a link to a 30 minute video with a clickbait title
Yeah, you haven't played it.
>>341636012
>You know Bethesda didn't develop this game, right?
lets keep pretending publishers have no say of what goes into the game theyre paying for
>>341635953
I've never even heard of quake 1 having community made singleplayer content before this post, if it's such a big thing then why haven't I heard of it before
>>341635931
DotA isn't popular because of its gameplay.
It's popular because it's F2P, can run on a toaster, and 90% of its playerbase is literal third world teenagers shitting up games from internet cafes.
>>341636132
because you probably never bothered to google it
>>341620247
quake one was inconsistent boring shit shoved out to meet a deadline, fuck you.
>>341635251
>problem
Never said I had a problem, you asked for what went against the core Doom gameplay and that was one of them. But go ahead and put words in my mouth when you don't have a proper response.
>Neither of these go against core DOOM gameplay, and infact compliment it and encourage them.
That's just flat out wrong, especially about enemies dropping health and ammo. In the classic Doom games, the need for health and ammo encouraged exploration of the map for secrets and spots with extra weapons, ammo, and health because the ammo dropped by zombie gunners only fueled the shotgun and the chaingun, and even that wasn't enough to get by.
>about fast-paced aggression
Doom was about more than fast paced agression. There are a lot of levels in both Doom 1&2 that hand your ass to you if you just try to charge in and be aggressive, as opposed to going a different path to stick up on supplies or to find a better point to attack.
I cannot believe the studio making this made all those shitty ports. It is just another CS, meaning the publishers hired some shit teir dev (Hidden Path) to make their game who don't know shit.
>>341636132
Because it's a smaller community than most (i.e. Doom mapping) due to the difficulties that come with 3d mapping and especially the tools (GTKRadiant, Hammer, etc are hard to wrap your head around if you're just starting).
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/
And that's just stuff that's actually been reviewed by peers and is hosted on Quaddicted, not one-offs or maps on func_msgboard.
Have fun.
>>341636308
Friend,
>When was DOOM ever about this?
>regarding health and ammo managementHe's either a troll or not worth arguing with
>>341636149
Yea you're right, it's the most played game on steam because the gameplay sucks and nobody enjoys it. Retard
>>341636012
I'm not even the same guy,but what you just said was fucking retarded
>How? By forcing you to engage to not die in a game that's about nothing but shooting demons?
Anyone that's played any of the original DOOM games know that the threat of death and being forced to start at the beginning of the level and lose all of your weapons in the event of death was already a big enough engagement.
This isn't a thing in the new DOOM,thanks to checkpoints,making the game far less engaging.
>When was DOOM ever about this? Oh, it wasn't? You're just a turbo autist that hates change? k
anyone who's played the original doom games on a non-pleb difficulty knows that ammo and health management are important
>Funny you're complaining about this when exploration is objectively better and more incentivized than it's ever been in the series. You have collectibles to find, hidden levels to find, armor and weapon mods to find, new weapons to find, powerups and map data and ammo upgrades and now with vertical exploration and hold on I'm starting to think you haven't actually played the game
No Lucy no buy
>>341636534
What's the best way to play Quake 1 these days? Is there a go-to sourceport or something? I have the steam version but I just assume it's a piece of shit
>that kid that would kick everyone else's ass with a railgun
>>341636913
Quakespasm will be your go-to port. The Steam version is the same GLQuake exe that's been around since the nineties; you'll just need to copy over the \id1 folder from your game install.
Also go online and find a download for the soundtrack because the Steam version doesn't fucking come with it.
>>341636847
>mfw dat thicc on id tech 6
>>341636813
>>Funny you're complaining about this when exploration is objectively better and more incentivized than it's ever been in the series. You have collectibles to find, hidden levels to find, armor and weapon mods to find, new weapons to find, powerups and map data and ammo upgrades and now with vertical exploration and hold on I'm starting to think you haven't actually played the game
not him, but that's the only thing he's right about, and I've been playing doom, heretic, hexen, blood, and shadow warrior for years
>>341636847
UHHH THICKER
>>341636847
i can still feel the pain of being rocket blasted to death by her 16 years ago
>>341636813
>Anyone that's played any of the original DOOM games know that the threat of death and being forced to start at the beginning of the level and lose all of your weapons in the event of death was already a big enough engagement.There's a setting for that. Not that'd you'd know since you haven't played it
>anyone who's played the original doom games on a non-pleb difficulty knows that ammo and health management are important
What retard struggled with ammo or health in DOOM? The game was never hard. Get over yourself.
>he can't even counter argue my exploration point because he knows I'm right
>he just posts a /pol/ meme instead
k
>>341635332
There is, at least for arena fpses in general. Most of these games have about 20-100 players a piece (exception is QL with ~800-900) with a good deal of crossover, and there's about 8-9 of these games. I don't think it's a large audience, but there's a group of semi-dedicated arena fps players.
If a single game came out and took over the market, it'd probably have 5-7k concurrents, which is more than enough for 1v1, but kind of sparse for team games (still not bad though).
The players being fickle and willing to drop a game at a moments notice probably doesn't help things for devs, and the lack of a marquee gametype splits the small community down further. AFPS for some people means ffa, whereas for others it's only duel or tdm (or ca or ctf).
None of these games have any modern amenities either. QL sort of has them, and Reflex is starting to implement them.
The Tribes community has a similar issue, but it's less fractured because of fewer games.
>>341636662
No, it's the most played game on Steam because it's free, can run on toasters, and 90% of the population live in third world countries.
>>341634748
DEEPEST
LORE
>>341636932
I was that kid.
I wouldn't ever hold back, either. Basked in the power and hatred.And now I'm left to play with bots until I die ;_;
So any one else here actually want more of the strogg business? I mean i guess the war was basically won by the end of 4 but I thought it was a cool setting. Its a shame quake wars never took off
>>341632932
i have watched that about 3 times now
its just so beautiful
>>341637447
>There's a setting for that. Not that'd you'd know since you haven't played it
the only correct way to play it would be to keep it like that
>>What retard struggled with ammo or health in DOOM? The game was never hard. Get over yourself.
>not playing on nightmare
>implying you didnt have at least some trouble with nightmare,if you did play it,just to make it seem like you won the argument
>he can't even counter argue my exploration point because he knows I'm right
>he just posts a /pol/ meme instead
i was going to refute that,but i realized it was right for the most part. forgot to take out the quote. pic was for how retarded the rest of your arguments were
>all these degenerates who played only shitty SP campaign of Q2
>not witnessing the best MP of the series
Take a suck. faggets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbsXdKTw1Ms
>>341636932
>that asshole who only used the gauntlet and still managed to frag you
>>341637598
Is that why the second most played game on steam costs $15 and has almost 10x the players as tf2, which is f2p and is the next most played?
>>341620151
They seem to be making it a lot like overwatch
which means it probably will come to consoles too
>>341638054
>csgo cost $15
lel. it has a sale every month.
Q3 was about being the best in an environment where everybody is equal, with nothing but pure skill to save you. Making it into champion Shit is only to casualize it. It just doesn't fit, besides, isn't 86843 champion / hero games enough already?
>>341621514
I think 120 is supposed to be the tickrate. Unlocked framerates probably means the max is going to be 200. That was the max FPS allowed in the new DOOM and that was claimed to have unlocked framerates
>>341638437
>Toxikk
What happened?
Hey, if all that's true, then great, I'll play it
>>341638525
I got it for less than 3 dollars.
>>341632932
>that jump into the megahealth secret in e1m1
goddammit why am i so bad at strafejumping
>>341628457
>Unless they plan on implementing the armor customization that DOOM 2016 multiplayer has
I don't think so, it'll probably be skins
>>341620247
>>341620251
>playing quake for the single player
>>341637072
You happen to know how to disable all the horrific view bobbing and screen shake every time you shoot gun etc? Can't find a lot of documentation for quakespasm
>>341641274
cl_bob 0.01 for less view bob. Don't remember the command for disabling screen shake when shooting, but either suck it up and deal with it or Google Quake's default convars.
>>341635468
Say that to his face and see what happens.
>>341640618
Quake 1 had a GOAT single player. It just happen to have a great multiplayer too that they focused on for later titles.Quake 4 had a decent SP too.
>>341641437
Found the wepon fix, it's v_gunkick 0
Main thing bugging me now is how the screen tilts every time you hit A or D, that shit is really annoying, it's not tied to cl_bob
/v/ is overreacting as usual, I don't think there's anything wrong with making characters unique in quake
It doesn't automatically mean it'll be heavily objective based with archetypes like 'tank' 'carry' whatever and game-breaking ultimates, it could easily just be quake with character differences
street fighter would be pretty boring if every character was exactly the same
>>341641746
Nevermind found it, cl_rollangle
Dig through like 6 different websites of console commands ctrl+f-ing different words until I found one that described it as "tilt"
>Class based quake
No, just no
>>341641814
A fighting game isn't the same as a fucking arena shooter you dumbass.
The whole point of an AFPS is to start on equal footing and than gain advantage through map control.
>>341638674
Normies/casuals can't get enough of press Q to win games.
Shit is so cancerous.
>>341641274
create a text file called autoexec.cfg in your id1 directory wherever you run quakespasm from for things you want set at launch.
for a fully classic feel, the autoexec should have:
gl_texturemode gl_nearest // forces texture filtering and mipmapping off
r_particles 2 // forces square particles in engines that support it
r_lerpmodels 0 // removes interpolation on models, makes weapons feel more powerful for example
r_lerpmove 0 // removes interpolation on movement, makes enemies less wobbly looking but more jerky
Running quakespasm with the option -fitz also brings it closer to the original form of the game, among other things restoring the demos when you start it up. It leaves mouselook on by default though since these days having a mouse is a given.
Put a directory called music into the id1 directory, you can find downloads of the soundtrack in a suitable format pretty easily via google.
>>341641437
>>341641746
>>341642019
the screen shake on firing a weapon/tilt on strafing was present in the original release of quake, hence why it's a faff to track down those variables. they're not things that were added in or changed by the sourceports.
>>341642657
in fighting games you can gain screen position and various meters
okay then, an even better analogy, imagine starcraft if everyone was terran. RTS is the most map-control centric genre and they have a variety of races
>>341620247
School yourself kiddo
>>341624512
>My tacticool corridor movie shooter that plays itself is WAAYYY better than a shooter where you have to do stuff. SUCK IT GRAMPS
>>341643413
>q3babby calling anyone else kiddo
>>341625625
>a lot of cool shit that FPS games have been doing
For example?
>>341632932
WHAT SOURCE PORT/TEXTURE PACK IS THAT SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME
>>341643812
Fuck you.pak
>>341628781
>rage quit and tremble in rage, hugging my D.VA body pillow tight.
lol
>>341638437
>Toxikk
Fucking hell, it even has bots does it?
>>341624693
Quake Live has singleplayer?
>>341628718
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little bitch?
>>341620151
>multiplayer only
Well there goes any hope I had of having fun with this game because nobody in my third world country plays anything other than ASSFAGGOTS.
Who /Visor/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53KwpPtDTEw
>>341622627
Yeah we all know what happened when they tried mixing Quake with classes, don't we.
>>341624360
how about actually posting a video that explains shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw5YbWQ8KcM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qOAv2yvv9E
Glad they're completely sidestepping how shitty putting in classes are
>>341646541
Great game, but it isn't Quake. Your argument means jack shit in the context of making a Quake game
>>341626708
>expecting Serious Sam from Quake
Spoken as someone who has never played either game.
>>341646901
>listening to youtubers on game design
not him but, shit nigger what are you doing
>>341647308
Probably expected from E3 in general
>>341646406
You mean/Bones/
>>341647409
>hurr durr youtubers
yes, professional players and game designers are youtubers, but please continue shitposting
>>341646901
>>341624360
>quake is a game of resources
Yeah, sure, spoken like some faggot who has never played in a packed to the brim deathmatch server.
You just go pick up closest weapon that is available and blast your competition. Duels are for faggots.
>>341648039
your favourite map is dm17 isn't it?
>>341647569Bones is when you want to troll somebody to deathHUUUUUUUUAAAHH *rattle*
>>34164819416 player deathmatch maps are the most fun anon, don't you go about shitting on themThat and freeze game mode
>>341620297
>>341620297
Quake 1 > 3 >>>>>>>>2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4
>>341647571
>pro-players in charge of game design
>Game designer goes straight into food analogies, only to state the obvious
again, your shits all fucked up, what are you doing
>>341648039
Spoken like a true faggot who gets raped all the time in duels so he resorts to playing shitty team based gamemodes.
>>341624360
>>341625912
>>341646901
Has anyone every played 1v1 matches in Descent? A very different game, with very different ideas of "map/resoource control," but equally as spatially interesting in my opinion.
quake 3 duels are among the most stressful videogames. no one likes stress games except dropouts and esports losers, see pic
I want new quake to be fun, those duel faggots with their autistic pickup timing shit can stay on ql
>>341649940
>I hate quake so it should be like all the other games I play
just play those games then you dumb faggot
>>341649940
>Not able to manage stress. It's more adrenaline than anything and good players manage their adrenaline and keep calm, confidence is probably what sets good and bad players apart. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun.
>waaa they play like the game is supposed to be played. I'm going to say it's autistic!
Either you get good at 1v1 or you find an ffa server of any other game mode.
>>341649940
I think the esports focus will primarily be on team based modes this time. whether duel is in or not, you likely don't have to worry about it
>>341637072
Quakespasm doesn't have the original quit messages, though, which are an essential part of the Quake experience.
I reccomend DarkPlaces partly for this reason, but only after completing the campaign once since it's a major tech/asset overhaul of the game.
>>341628781
>press Q, nothing happens
>>341650225
quake is already unique and adding new stuff to it to make it interesting (after 15 fucking years) isn't making it "like all the other games I play", stop being awkward.
you're one of those faggots who wants very deathmatch game to be a shitty quake 3 reskin with barebones weapons.
at least UT has secondary fire and 2k3 had adrenaline, UT4 has crouch sliding, you know, new ideas, things that progress the genre.
this new quake could be the perfect blend of old, fast, violent quake and modern mechanics like unique character strengths, and you're in here bitching that it should be another autistic q3 duel game. you'll do everything you can do prevent this game from trying something new. again, fuck off to QL with your 2 friends who somehow enjoy that shit, if that's all you want.
>>341629098
>i'm not going to pay for this when i can just play old quake
This is exactly what's happened to all those other arena games. People just keep playing CPMA and no one new starts playing either
>>341642539
>>Class based quake
>No, just no
>>341620151
>no ET: Quake Wars
>class based
>SJW
>no Singleplayer
>>341644410
Liar, I googled that and got no results.
>>341651140
You again? Fuck off with your Dorkplaces nonsense.
You shouldn't be quitting Quake anyway.
>>341646968
It's based off Quake and uses Quake assets. Similar to a spinoff, which, funnily enough, is what Quake SUBITITLE: Champions kind of is.
Your argument would only make sense if it was called JUST Quake. Which luckily it isn't.
>>341620151
The only competitive fps in the world left has no classes. Think about it.
The graphics are also way too good to be an esport title. You have to be able to turn it so much down that it works on laptops from 5 years ago without problems, or the playerbase will be tiny.
I guess they tried
>>341620151
It's not Quake so long as it has this heroes bullshit.
I'm okay with no SP campaign as long as they have smart bots in the game
>>341652052
Yes that's team fortress not quake, thanks for illustrating that
>>341620151
Yeah maybe I could live without the SP , but
>d)Maybe more focused on Team vs Team for e-sports
Naaaah
>h)Classic arena style quake game with the addition of champions
Skins n shit, waifubait etc.
>>341652536
>Fuck off with your Dorkplaces nonsense.
>>341652052
Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>341653148
>recommending a port that breaks both physics and AI as well as lighting because 'muh quit messages'
>>341652981
>>341653212
>Quake engine
>Quake assets
>Quake mechanics
>Quake weapons
>Quake mod
>nothing to do with Quake
>>341653293
Are you sure you're not being retarded on purpose?
>>341653284
God motherfucking forbid someone want a different experience from a 20 year old game for once.
>>341620151
>esports
keep your meme game
>>341653403
Do you have an actual fucking argument or are you just going to keep projecting?
>>341653293
>Half Life MP is team based game because of Counter Strike
>>341653595
Good thing that wasn't my argument!
Also I don't recall CS using Half-Life assests to the extent that TF did with Quake 1.
>>341653589
>make retarded argument
>get called for it
>wow why didn't you argue with me?????
>>341653293
>Literally plays different than quake
>ITS QUAKE YOU GAIS!!!
>>341653459
Do you also happen to enjoy Brutal Doom?
>>341653809
>literally uses Quake weapons
>literally copies the movement physics and controls 100% from Quake
>IT'S NOTHING LIKE QUAKE!!!!
>>341653743
Your argument is that Quake is a class based game simply because some fucking mod exist using its asset.
How is that logical? Its fucking retarded as fuck.
>>341654026
>Your argument is that Quake is a class based game simply because some fucking mod exist using its asset.
No it isn't, you fucking idiot. Learn to fucking read.
TF is Quake MODIFIED for class based gameplay. Which is essentially what Quake Champions is, only being developed from the ground up rather than an altering of an existing source code.
>>341654262
>TF is Quake MODIFIED for class based gameplay.
WHICH MAKE IT NOT QUAKE.
Quake is Quake, TF is TF.
Adding a team, class based elements totally change how the game is played, and it was under a different fucking name to boot.
>Which is essentially what Quake Champions is,
Which makes it NOT QUAKE.
Its some shit using Quake name, trying to ride on its name while catering with what currently the hottest shit on the FPS.
>>341653998
It uses the same weapon models, but the underlying mechanics of the weaponry were completely different from the original Quake guns. Movement speeds and knockback physics were class dependent, as were health and armor limits making even more game mechanics fundamentally different from Quake.
>>341622746
this is gold
>>341654761
Except the part where it WAS called Quake Team Fortress. Idiot.
Also maybe fucking learn the difference between the terms "mod" and "total conversion". You know, shit people like myself who ACTUALLY FUCKING PLAYED THE MOD as well as actually experienced that shit first hand when they were new actually fucking knew about?
Again, both games BASED OFF QUAKE USING QUAKE ASSETS, QUAKE CHARACTERS, QUAKE WEAPONS AND QUAKE MECHANICS. Again, do you know the difference between a mod and a total conversion? Do you know the difference between a spinoff and a sequel? Because you quite clearly don't so shut the fuck up.
>>341654761
So any custom game modes for Quake are not Quake? Is Capture the Flag not Quake?
>>341655675
Exactly. MODIFIED versions. Hence why it was called a "mod" and not a total conversion.
>>341649774
There is another universe where Descent is a hugely popular series on the order of Quake and Starcraft, but I don't live it.
Why?
>>341655675
>>341655891
Don't forget, the characters in the game are still variations on the iconic Quake ranger. Same face, exact same model.
>>341654262
>TF is Quake MODIFIED for class based gameplay.
And Deus Ex is Unreal modified for immersive sim/FPS RPG hybrid gameplay. Something having the same engine and underlying physics model is a fairly empty comparison.
>>341655730
People started referring to it as Quake Team Fortress after Team Fortress Classic came out to distinguish between them; originally it was just Team Fortress.
>>341656501
True, though reusing art and mesh assets because replacing them would be a massive timesink so you can instead focus on substantial changes to the core gameplay mechanics is pretty standard in modding. Same goes for the original Counter Strike, which plays in a wildly different fashion to Half-Life.
If it's more than $20, than no deal.
Don't ever - EVER - pay for a game that costs more than that and is exclusively multiplayer.
Especially these days.
>>341657559
I'm really confused by the notion that mp only games should be less expensive than sp only games. I get 8-12 hours out of most sp games, but 200+ out of most mp games.
>>341620151
they better have Anarki in the lineup
>>341657052
>And Deus Ex is Unreal modified for immersive sim/FPS RPG hybrid gameplay. Something having the same engine and underlying physics model is a fairly empty comparison.
I don't recall seeing the Skarrj in Deus Ex. Or the Flak Cannon or the Reedemer, for that matter. And I'm pretty sure no Unreal title took place on Earth. But the Ranger, as well as the Nailgun and all the gothic architecture from the Quake campaign, all make an appearance in Team Fortress.
So, not really the same thing.
>>341657547
Exactly. Hence the "mod <-> total conversion" distinction.
>>341657559
Poorfag as fuck. If its a quality game id happily pay $40 for it.
ASSFAGGOTS were a colossal and catastrophic mistake.
Easily the worst trend to come out of this generation
People who play these games should all be castrated with rusted blades.
>>341658359
What the fuck do ASSFAGGOTS have to do with this thread?
>>341657928
>But the Ranger, as well as the Nailgun and all the gothic architecture from the Quake campaign, all make an appearance in Team Fortress.
I was making the point that
>>341653293
>Quake engine
Is a completely meaningless point for trying to argue that two games are themselves comparable.
For that matter, you could easily replace all the textures, character models and props in Deus Ex with stuff lifted wholesale from the original Unreal to produce a game using the same core engine and art assets, but it would still be fucking stupid to say inventory management, a skill system and reduced accuracy while running were gameplay features that you should expect in Unreal games because they appeared in Deus Ex. Likewise, just because Team Fortress introduced class systems and unique abilities doesn't mean that those are part of the gameplay characteristic of the Quake series.
>>341658531
Don't mind him, he's just blaming low hanging fruits for problems he doesn't understand.
>>341657928
>And I'm pretty sure no Unreal title took place on Earth
To be pedantic, several part of the UT games take place on or around Earth.
>>341658531
Besides the effect they've been having on the industry?
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