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>>341590782
Nintendo is not exception when it comes to bullshots
Pro tip: literally every game ever made looks like shit after being compressed through an internet stream.
>>341590782
>bullshots...
>Taking the capture of a stream with bad bitrate and comapring it to a trailer
You keep doing the same stupid mistake despite being told so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGe3PzXifJU
>>341590782
>Ubisoft has a small downgrade.
>OMG!! Downgradegate!!! BULLSHOTS!! GAME IS SHIT!!!
>Nintendo Literally shows a finely sculpted world and gives you lego blocks construct in the end.
>OMG CANT WAIT FOR THIS SHIT TO COME OUT YA BOIIIII
Its ok when Nintendo does it.
Uhh we like Nintendo here, OP.
top is NX version, bottom is Wii U version, compressed
>>341590782
We have actual uncompressed lossless screenshots from the Wii U.Stop using screen grabs off the fucking stream you fucking moron.
This will stop people like >>341591063 and >>341591420 from telling you it's just the compression.
>>341591584
Off TV footage looks much better
>>341591656
>>341591584
compression doesn't remove the grasses
>>341591656
What's with that shitty blur on everything?
OP, the bullshot you posted is a photoshop of a concept trailer
>>341591941
Combat uses a blur effect, I think to make it look more dramatic or something.
Anyone who expected the game to look even remotely like the top pic are completely retarded
>>341591941
Instead of letterboxing the game when you Z target like in previous Zeldas it's now DoF
>>341590782
It was obvious the top would never happen. The Wii U has been out for 4 years and nothing close to that has ever been released on the platform.
>>341590782
Those aren't the same game. Top is Zelda, bottom is runescape
This looks like a 2007 or 2008 game for Sony or XBox. Even the uncompressed images.
Bravo, Nintendo.
>>341592146
Wii U has at best 2007 hardware so it fits
so... this is the power of .. assblasted sonnyggers
Why is the sky shit brown?
>>341592146
good thing games haven't changed at all since 2007 then
Nintendo? More like NintenDONT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>341592040
so nitendo is like the fast food of gaming industry
>see some good shit on menu
>here sir, you hamburg...
>cool thanks..s... oh for fuck sake why does it look like some thing from trash can
>sir you're stupid to believe the ad from menu
>all that barren, ugly textured landscape geometry
Man, they really need to up their distant land texturing game. And find a way to make the world further than 50m away not look barren.
My modded Morrowind looks 10 times better than this.
excuse me? its literally okay when nintendo does it.
>it's another "We can't find any real criticism so let's bash the one thing nintendo isn't known for in the least"
So here are the lossless uncompressed images from the 2014 presskit
>>341591352
You're not only liking Nintendo, you're licking them far up the rectum
Why is this game always foggy?
Wii U is supposed to be stronger than a PS3/360 and Zelda has a shitty cartoon artstyle going.
So how is it possible for the game to look so insanely bad? Especially disappointed with the crappy animations.
>>341592571
Isn't it a plot point?
>>341591268
I have to say, it literally could be a ps2 title.
It would probably even sell good
>>341590782
It's okay when Nintendo does it.
>>341590782
The upper image is the NX version. :^)
It's an early build, plus Wii U is incredibly weak. Its gonna be better for the NX, has to be. The released screenshots are false though.
>inb4 Nintendrone
The last Nintendo console I bought was gamecube 15 years ago. I fucking hope NX will make me buy it. IF its just BotW and thousand Mario games though...
>2016
>720p
>sub 60 FPS
S-s-so this is the p-p-power of next-g-g-gen.
>nintendo showed up to e3 with one game
>still won
It's fun watching you shitters squirm trying to find shit to talk
>>341590782
What's sad is that the top image was the perfect artstyle for a new zelda in my opinion. What we are getting is close, but not the same and it's a little disappointing.
Lastly I'll post the 4k "artwork" from the 2016 presskit.
These are not lossless and are compressed by default and I had to compress them a bit more to fit on 4chan as the originals could but upwards of 7mbs but here you go.
>>341592783
>It's an early build
You always say that and then the game looks even worse when it is released.
>>341593134
drone pls
nintendo could literally shit in your mouth and they'd win for you
>>341590782
If you believe the top was ever gonna be the real case youre a fucking retard
>>341593257
>those textures
>>341590782
It's ok when nintendo does it though, fuck off OP
>>341593312
>for you
nice meme retard come up with something original next time
>>341591063
anon...
hate to burst your bubble but
seeing a lossless version won't fix that draw distance
>>341593280
I think its a combination of early build + Wii U lack of power. BotW looks like a flagship game for NX, and as such, needs to look gorgeous.
Or, Nintendo is just lying. Both are possible.
>>341592327
Except they have, outside the nintendo lineup of games.
>>341592020
It's to hide all the ps2 textures.
I truly wish we could get a PC version of this
but no, we get blurry, barely 30fps gameplay with awful textures
at least the fire looks like an updated version of wind wakers
Wow, zelda looks fucking disgusting.
>>341591063
t. Treehouse employee
Don't you have a jap game to censor today?
I'm confused. The new game looks really cool, but the graphics also look ever so slightly off. It's kind of annoying. The lighting seems kind of fucked up.
>>341592348
Nothing on the PS4 or Xbox One looks like the top picture
not even 'remastered' Skyrim
>>341593497
>Nintendo
>gorgeous looking game
pick one
>>341593257
amazing textures nintendo, this definitely can compete with microsoft, sony and pc
>>341593552
Not even one 3D Zelda was 60fps at release
Wii Zeldas were locked on 30fps
>>341591268
Textures still need some work and the bloom needs to be turned down, but those aspects do look better in this footage; however, stream quality doesn't change LOD and poor draw distance resulting in missing meshes and horrendous pop-in, which the game still needs to work on.
>>341593526
Whoever put that fugly Pikmin ground into the game needs to be shot.
>>341593564
gameplay > graphics you babbies
>muh graphics
Who the fuck expects a Zelda game to have good graphics?
>>341593696
ugliest, most fake looking water of 2016
>>341593725
Gameplay looks like shit too...
>>341590782
You're confusing LOD with downgrade. You can see it in the top picture as well and even Horizon a large amount of it as well as popins.
>>341593710
I know, and it's a joke
The only people who would buy it on the Wii U are literal toddlers
>>341593647
Gorgeous isnt just graphical fidelity and the resolution of textures. Its also the graphical style and atmosphere. Why do people so often mistake these two?
Sure would be awesome though to get BotW for a PC. Maybe Cemu will catch up.
>>341593784
That ground needs a shave.
>>341593725
Might as well have games in 240p then
>>341593725
>>341593741
But the gameplay is just as shallow as ever, even worse now that it plays like a generic open world hack and slash.
Some how even more shallow combat than the witcher.
>>341591656
>Link using a two handed weapon again
>>341590782
WoW looks better, and that game is ten years old and was designed to run on toasters even back then
>>341593784
>all of those individual blades of grass
>>341590782
Ok yeah but you're a fucking idiot if you thought that's what the final game was going to look like anyway. You know that the wii u isnt graphically on-par with everything else, so why get your hopes up so high?
>>341593725
Just because most Nintendo games have no story and look graphically outdated doesn't mean that they focused on gameplay.
>>341593741
Wind Waker looked really good and at the time, Twilight Princess was respectable
these kinds of posts make me fucking sick by the way, so please refrain from ever making another. there's nothing wrong with expecting graphical leaps. Zelda U legitimately looks like a last gen game. It could've been on the Wii
>>341593918
anon I...
Does Witcher's have witch time and throwing swords?
Because if it does I'm doing to buy it now
>>341593971
Are you serious?
>>341591584
Holy shit those rock textures
Nintendrones will LITERALLY defend this
>>341593883
>Why do people so often mistake these two?
Why do you make assumptions about other people you have no relevant knowledge to make? The atmosphere is bland and the artstyle is as unappealing as it is lazy.
>>341593918
>But the gameplay is just as shallow as ever
Sure it is buddy.
>>341593917
>what is 8bit?
Looks so much better in a not stream
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GGe3PzXifJU
>>341593587
>t.
fuck off you worthless autistic shit
post you autistic memes on reddit you worthless retarded piece of shit
>>341593725
Except for when it's another company that makes a game with horribly muddy textures, terrible pop-in, in a barren open world, right? Then the graphics are important, but not when Nintendo does it.
>>341594014
Go play Skyward Sword and tell me BotW doesn't look better.
>>341593564
i dont think theyve shown her yet
>>341592727
You have never played a ps2 game, haven't you?
>>341594179
Holy fuck it's so much more vibrant than anything they showed off on Treehouse
>>341594179
>/v/ is going to buy it anyway
>this thread is just full of retars and trolls
GO home !!
>we don't need thread ID guys!
Lmao
>>341594069
It looks gorgeous, like a fairy land. I've seen realistic landscapes in so many games now, that I'm looking forward to something different.
>The atmosphere is bland and the artstyle is as unappealing as it is lazy.
That's your opinion, but most people find it magical.
>>341594194
Spot the shill.
>>341594281
I did. And they were glorious. What about you?
>>341593971
Welcome to 2008, Nintendo.
>>341594340
Exactly
It is just the stream compression
>>341594357
>2 whole posts per person
wow its almost like people are having discussions or something.
>>341593971
are you literally retarded?
>>341594219
this. the press conference thay did what horrible in comparison to Sony.
but still. this game is going to be fine. and /v/ is going to suck the dick of Zelda soon enough.
>>341594151
Practically the best looking game of all time, running on a fucking WiiU no less, and /v/ decides that the thing it deserves shit for is graphics.
>>341592120
>>>341593257
Jesus Christ it is fucking Runescape from 2008.
>>341594025
>throwing swords
Explain to me what's great about throwing a sword. In the presentation, it looked really like a boneheaded move and not something any warrior would do.
Also: Lots of games have knives you can throw.
>>341594507
>best looking game of all time
SOMEBODY HOLD ME BACK I'M COMING SWINGING AT THIS FUCKHEAD
>>341594179
>SHITPOSTERS ARE IGNORING THIS
>>341594414
welcome to 2002 dronypony
>>341594414
omg this looks gorgeous! this is the culmination of all RPG and adventure games!
BRAVO
So the original one of this is 21793x9961 and 157mbs, no way is that going to fit on 4chan so I had to compress the shit out to fit it into /v/s 4mb limit and cut the resolution by a little more than half for /v/'s maximum image resolution of 10,000 pixels.
>>341594592
Explain to me what's not great about it and what other games allow you to throw a sword
To answer your question, it allows more combat options at a much quicker pace (no need to switch to a ranged weapon)
>>341594740
wow...these graphics are amazing...
>>341594179
textures still look like shit.
>>341594740
>21793x9961
>>341594687
not sure if bait
minor kek if so
>>341594841
It still looks better than the stream footage which you guys are basing off your shitposts on
>>341594179
Technically the game isn't much visually but the art style and the vibrant world picks up the slack. Reminds me of how the souls games do it. I love that shit personally.
Art style>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>graphical fidelity
>>341594884
Nintendo finally caught to 2005
Is it bad if they then show the clearly worse version ages before release still?
Game looks bad. Looks like a huge downgrade in graphics and they aren't doing anything new at all
The amount of droning going on in these threads is absurd
>>341590782
>tfw have ps4 and and wiiu
>will probably buy an nx, maybe not at launch but at some point
>tfw I can enjoy both Sony and Nintendo exclusives
>tfw come on /v/ and just laugh and laugh at all the autists and their pointless bickering
Feels bretty gud man
>>341590782
>Slow moving hugely noticeable wall-changing pop-in.
SO THIS...
>>341594930
I don't see how. The only difference I've noticed is the color saturation.
>>341594740
Link to original?
>>341591420
no, the top version isn't real, OP put a sharpening filter and fucked with the saturation
>>341595026
Yeah but the atmosphere and artstyle of Kameo is still better than current Zelda.
>tfw all this shitposting is going to come back full circle and leak straight back out into various other carefully constructed shitposting pictures attacking other games.
This whole cycle is simply beyond fucked up at this point, it's just a constant back and fourth of console waring, it's happened with every single Sony game thus far especially Uncharted and now it's happening to wiiU games and it will happen to Microsoft games provided anybody still gives a fuck about Xbox when the games finally come out.
We should be excited about all the new games that got shown at E3 but no, it has to be shitposting on /v/, there is NO other way. No fun allowed.
Nintendo fans on suicide watch, Sony fans on suicide watch, Xbox fans on suicide watch. If you want a summary on E3 there it is.
>>341595141
FFXV is one of the few games that make me truly cringe.
>>341594063
Also remember that Link is literally climbing a smooth wall like motherfucking Spiderman
>>341595297
yes
>show nice looking tech demo
>THIS IS WHAT THE WII U IS CAPABLE OF
>reveal new Zelda
>it's cartoony shit again because the Wii U can't handle good graphics
>newest footage looks even worse
I wonder what this turd will look like when it releases.
>>341595257
Don't like it? Then leave.
We should be excited about all the hillarious threads and exciting flame wars during E3 but no, it has to be whining about shitposting on /v/, there is NO other way. No fun allowed.
>>341595129
Don't worry it will look greaton cemuin 2027
>>341590782
You mad cause you know it will part the sea of shitty open worlds games and lead the way by showing how open world games should be done? Story is interesting, gameplay looks amazing and the atmosphere and music is 10/10.
Zelda does dragons dogma/ shadow colossus masterpiece HERE WE GO!
It reminds me of princess monoke which is a massive plus!
>that realistic minimap
>that noise detector
What the fuck
>>341595408
Right? fucking unrealistic trash.
>>341595524
Wow, that's some seriously deluded, fantastical reasoning. I wish I could be there to see reality hit you like a ton of bricks.
>>341595642
That's literally the opposite of a smooth wall
>>341590782
Top: NX
Bottom: Wii U
>>341595758
I guess you're retarded then if you think the wall Link is climbing looks any different.
>>341595257
>wants to enjoy vidya like we all do
>mad at players who are fed up with bullshots instead of AAA companies committing the crime
Your anger is misplaced, anon. We are not so different.
>>341595642
what game is this? looks like shit. if you're trying to prove a point you fucked up
>>341596032
this is bait
>>341595903
Maybe it's the shit textures and graphics that confuse him?
Looks worse than gothic 3.
>>341596032
Cliffhanger SNES
>>341594179
Kinda like the artstyle, but every image ive seen of this game seems so empty, everything is a low resolution empty field with 5 trees, come on man.
>>341590782
literally still looks like the teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGe3PzXifJU
>>341591656
>>341591783
>>341591959
>characters all look sort of cell shaded
>the landscape and objects all look like a generic PS2 JPRG
What were they thinking? It looks so out of place. Stick with one artstyle at least.
>>341594063
>woah these cartoon rocks don't look realistic
ebin nitpicking
>>341595141
>reflection literally materializing 5 m away from you
KEK
>>341593820
>Water
the fact that you din't realize is ice tells me how much of a retard you are
Why are so many people angry about Nintendo winning E3?
I'm sorry your 3rd world internet can only run the stream at the lowest quality.
>>341596645
Yeah I too remember when Ice formed waterfalls
>>341591959
why did they had to make so unsaturated and dull
fucking gritty western shooters has more colour than this
>that aliasing
![[REVO]Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind[BD,1080p] [BD0E1A0F].mkv_snapshot_00.16.07_[2016.06.16_09.56.52].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YbhfxoZ.jpg "[REVO]Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind[BD,1080p] [BD0E1A0F].mkv snapshot 00.16.07 [2016.06.16 09.56.52]")
>>341596376
I think it's meant to emulate the Anime style (specifically 80-90s era Ghibli) where the backgrounds will be detailed paintings and the characters are just painted on celluloid and placed over that.
>>341596645
To be fair. It looks even worse as ice.
Where is the snow? Ice doesn't magically make snow disappear, and ice doesn't freeze fast running water so why is the waterfall frozen?
>>341590782
So what if it looks worse than first thought?
It still beats everything on the ps4 which is filled with fucking movie games.
>>341596880
Well. They shouldn't because it looks awful.
If they wanted that they should have copied Ni No Kuni instead, or not bother at all because it's looks terrible in a 3D game.
>>341596880
yeah, they were definitely going for this style. even the music is similar to ghibli.
despite of looking like shit graphic-wise the actual gameplay seems like you could have a lot of fun with this game
>>341596880
They are doing a pretty shit job at emulating Ghibli then. Maybe should've called Level 5 and asked them to make Zelda.
>>341597119
nah
>>341593635
>not even 'remastered' Skyrim
That's not really saying much.
Anyway uncharted 4 looks kind of close to that, it's a shit game but they can get their inaccessible scenery running in engine at least
>Ubisfot downgrades a game
>everyone shits on them
>From downgrades a game
>Everyone shits on them
>Sony downgrades a game
>Everyone shits on them
>CDPR downgrades a game
>Everyone shits on them
>Nintendo downgrades a game
>Who cares everyone does it
>>341590782
My biggest problem with the current build is that all colors look so washed out.
lmao I said screenshot this when they revealed it if you thought wii-u would ever do this shit
![[REVO]Porco Rosso[1080p,FLAC] [2092878F].mkv_snapshot_00.51.33_[2016.06.16_10.01.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AD9soJF.jpg "[REVO]Porco Rosso[1080p,FLAC] [2092878F].mkv snapshot 00.51.33 [2016.06.16 10.01.18]")
>>341597057
>>341597127
I'm just saying what they're going for, not that they did it very well.
>>341596787
>>341591959
im that guy, and all i ask is why nintendo?
it took me fucking 1 minute to make pic related. what the fuck is up witht hat washed out shitty colours?
i hope they fix the fucking colours in the final version.
also textures fucking suck but i guess thats all you can do with the wii u.
>>341590782
>game doesn't look as good as it did during e3 reveal trailer
that's literally every game. The difference being that Nintendo isn't using the 2014 render to sell their game. They had 6 straight hours of unfiltered gameplay and a new trailer using the final graphics just so you'd know exactly what to expect. What is even the point of bringing up the old demo when nintendo itself doesn't use it anymore?
>be nintendrone
>Love how the new zelda looks
>People to me i like to eat rectum
>They tell me i love to eat miyamoto's cock
>They dont realise im gay and would do that willingly
Jokes on you sonyggers
>>341596769
>Water cannot freeze while falling
Kill yourself
>>341597119
I mean. Looks like it would be fun for a while I agree, but it doesn't look like it has a lot of long term value.
After launching a rock for the fifth time it's just gonna become boring.
Hope they aren't banking to much on this stuff and instead spends more energy on dungeons and towns and stuff like that.
>>341597259
yep, not a single person shitting on them in this very thread
Reminder that any and all graphical issues will be fixed with the NX version of the game
>>341597531
>Source: my ass
>>341597381
Could be the time of day a misty morning or what have you. Could be the way they captured the screenshot.
Or it could be that Nintendo is really starting to slip and the ain't just what they used to be.
>>341590782
it wasn't bullshot, it actually looks like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGe3PzXifJU
>>341596769
>no such thing as frozen waterfalls
...
>>341597259
how has nintendo downgraded anything
you can't downgrade from art, you downgrade from e3 to release
>>341597531
there are sources stating the nx version will be the exact same game, graphics and all.
>>341597531
You mean, it's gonna look pretty much the same but run in 1080p and 60fps.
>>341591287
Except the top picture was never supposed to be an ingame screenshot.
If you ever believed it was, then you're an idiot.
>>341597713
>show supposed in game trailer, game looks pretty impressive
>show game proper
>looks like a budget PS3 JRPG game made by a tiny team who got payed with room an board
Gee I don't know.
>>341597487
I think the problem is more about how many people continue to suck Nintencock and defend them.
>>341597724
Citation needed
>>341597724
that source is an interview where aonuma says both versions offer the same experience and the journalist decides that this means they are the same graphically
This looks like it will have deep gameplay, it is easy on the eyes and given its a nintendo game, will run pleasantly.
I hope it does well.
>>341596032
>looks like shit
Yea, its a pretty shit game.
>>341598000
see >>341598021
it's a misinterpretation, people are just hoping the game won't look good
>>341591783
Fucking clumsy house about to collapse
Get your shit together, Link
>>341593647
Wind Waker.
I don't care about the shitstorm that happened at the time (due to people specifically wanting realism), it looks beautiful.
>>341590782
Why is everything foggy in almost every screenshot I see?
>>341598057
>shit game
Dude this, and I've got like 250,000 hours in it.
>>341598218
Because it's a stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=GGe3PzXifJU
>>341598021
>>341598083
>ask whether there will be visual or content changes to the NX version
>Aonuma says it will be the same experience on both systems
>Nintendrones decide that this means the "journalist" is a retard and the NX version will look fantastic
>>341598218
It's shadow of the colossus all over again, they're making a game that has no right being on a console as shit as it's on so they fog it up enough they can unload large regions of the map and lower the detail of distant objects significantly just so it will run.
The only problem is SotC is like 10 years old, there's no excuse for this shit now.
>>341590782
Okay, just hold on a second. Let me put on my thinking cap and let's figure this out together, okay? I need you to set the record for me here. Set me straight on this situation. Are you telling me, I mean you really expect me to believe, that the graphics on the finished version are not as good as they were advertised? Are you telling me a video game company would make the trailer look better than the game? Is that what's going on here? Cause I can't think of a time, and I mean not a single time, that that has ever happened before. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the video game industry just does not work like that, okay?
I find it funny that shitposters literally cannot find a single flaw about this game and resort to trivial arguments like "bullshots"
>>341598360
yeah, it would make no sense whatsoever for a more powerful machine to have more processing power, right?
that just makes no sense
why would they do that? they just would not
the world would sooner end
>>341598218
The draw distances are pretty much designed to look good and run well on the wii u's shitty hardware when you're on the ground, but when you're in the air the draw distance is the same in all directions around you. now you're up in the air, with no obstructions to see the foggy stuff that should be in the background. Pretty much all of the shitty/foggy footage is high up of the ground.
Its kind of retarded that they're trying to run this on a wii u, a U is like 300 dollarydoos right now and the controller is about 100 of that, so it stands to reason that they're running this game on the equivalent of a $200 pc.
>>341598539
sotc only had fog in the tiny forest
>>341597381
>6am
>not steeped in morning gloom
You're a fucking retard anon.
>>341598674
Is there even a way to tell if a game is flawed from footage other than graphically?
Seems a bit impertinent to demand higher criticism on a game we haven't played other than "the things we've seen suck"
>>341598701
Irrelevant. It's not what Aonuma said.
Besides, by your logic every remaster or PC port would get an upgrade to take advantage of the power at hand. That's not how companies operate.
>>341598857
Distance objects blurred away like in the image i was looking at similarly.
At least that's what i thought you were referring to.
>>341599112
That isn't fog it's dof. He's talking about the contrast being low because it's a shitty stream.
>>341599108
>implying they have no incentive for getting people to buy NX's
if it looked way better on the NX which it almost definitely will, people will be more inclined to buy it
is that not how companies operate?
>>341597381
There is nothing stopping you from turning up the contrast on your TV/monitor if that's how you want the game to look.
>>341591287
Did you see the Rainbow Six Siege downgrade?
It's fucking brutal
>>341599261
Again, it's not what Aonuma said. It's what you want to happen.
And people are gonna buy Zelda regardless.
>>341598543
they're not even making the trailer better than the game, it was the reveal trailer back when the game didn't even have a name that looked better. The trailer uses real-time footage and they just played the game without any script for 8 hours. There is literally nobody on earth that is going to see the 2014 video, ignore everything else about the game and feel betrayed.
>>341599261
If it's feasible or cheap, yeah, but it's game development, even for a competent studio it's difficult and expensive to significantly improve the graphics on something
Nintendo has been a minimum effort kind of operation for a good while now, you should set your expectations accordingly.
>>341591063
but both come from streams anon
>>341599512
So just like every reveal trailer in history. You're an idiot for believing.
>>341595167
https://a.cuntflaps.me/foiwnr.jpg
https://a.cuntflaps.me/bemjct.jpg
>>341599865
Neat thanks
>>341598360
>means the resolution and framerate are bound to be the same
>Aonuma not completely misunderstanding the question and thinking they're asking if there'll be any major changes like the Wii version of TP
>gaming journalists not being retarded in 2016
>>341599820
what? I'm agreeing with you, champ
>>341590782
but the top image is the NX version.
>>341590782
IT'S OKAY CAUSE IT"S NINTENDO!!!
FUCK YOUUU REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Looks better than witcher
ive never even owned nintendo crapbut i emulate it sometimesand i think this game will downsample nicely from 4k :3
>>341590782
its funny cause I bet lots of nintendo fans out there shitpost every sony games "downgrade". But this is literally a different looking game completely from the top image. Karmas a bitch
I'm just sad that they had to take all those beautiful colours and put a big fucking washed out white filter over it.
>>341600378
>Sky is literally just white
>Nintendo had colorful sky with clouds all the way back on the N64
Pathetic.
>>341600378
gr8 b8
>>341600809
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE TIMELINE?!
>>341600809
contrails
>>341600809
Skybox, they didn't make it seamless but it's likely few people would have noticed it, so they said fuck it.
>>341596376
>cell shading backgrounds
Are you insane? Or do you not know what cell shading even is?
>>341600809
Superman flying
Can someone tell what hardware nintendo has?
CPU,GPU etc
Does anyone else find it a bit morbid and bizarre that a character like Link is running around in the wild and slaughtering peaceful "monsters"? I mean he literally kills them with a fucking sword.
>>341592727
>I have to say, it literally could be a ps2 title.
Why would you say somehing so amazingly ridiculous that you would instantly lose all your credibility?
Can't believe they called this artstyle "anime", or maybe it's suppose to show how terrible it is since modern anime is shit.
>It's a "Let's conflate promotional images and actual gameplay" thread.
If the game comes out and then the 6+ hours of shit they showed was bullshots, THEN you can complain.
![Ashitaka-defending-his-people-princess-mononoke-1521844-1040-558[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IRs7yrZ.jpg "Ashitaka-defending-his-people-princess-mononoke-1521844-1040-558[1]")
>>341601278
It looks just like an anime
>>341594473
>a penis rock
10/10 will buy and make it my base
>>341601385
You picked the totally wrong picture to illustrate your point.
>>341590782
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha those fucking trees is that supposed to be a forest???
Is there anyone in this thread who is actually excited for this game and planning to buy AND has worries about the visuals?
I mean we all know that the game is for a console which is at a similar power of ps3. What ps3 offers the same vast game world AND has better graphics than Zelda?
>>341601221
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espresso_(microprocessor)
>>341601621
Well, Nintendo owners are kids so they have a lot of imagination.
>>341601621
Pocket of emptiness is good.
>>341601621
I don't think so, no.
I don't remember that bit explicitly though.
>>341600378
yeah, in upper right corner there is new zelda to compare. That green dot = Link
Is grey the new brown meme?
Fucking Ds3 did the same thing.
Why?
>>341601717
I wish I was a kid anon. I wish I still could appreciate a game by the experience it provides instead of arguing over fps, resolution and bullshots.
But here I am in a thread which is created by a Sony fan in order to shitpost about Nintendo and throw insults to the group of people who actually still likes Nintendo.
I wish I was a kid anon.
>>341602034
What's grey exactly?
Are you retarded?
>>341602103
It's 2016 and the shit looks barely enough to pass for a 360 game. When is enough enough?
>This much butthurt from Sonybronies just because they didn't get the GOTY
Keep em coming boys.
>>341591584
>screen grabs from the stream somehow magically lower the games draw distance
>>341590782
Y O U T U B E R I P
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so this is the power of sonyponys
>>341597531
>Citation needed
>>341602665
how do people have screengrabs from an alpha e3 only game?
>>341602241
>empty open world maymay getting goty
Seems about right.
Can someone explain to me, why Nintendo doesnt make powerful console like PS4.5 or Xbox Scorpio ? Why they use GPU with 24MB of Vram?
Care to explain.
>>341602787
press kit
>>341602210
Well if you are asking my honest opinion, I don't care how it looks. I don't really play Nintendo games but I plays all Zelda games they release and they sort of all had dated graphics. They were one of he best games I have ever played. So why would I care.
I'm a pcfag and most of the games I play are NOT visually impressive games. Most AAA titles which people drool over usually bores me to death. That is why I'm on Pc, for better selection of games.
I don't even think the game looks terrible. I really liked the art style so I have no problems with it.
Everyone knows that no one cares much about visuals except some autistic kids I guess. All this threads about visuals of Sony, Nintendo, Xbox, Pc or whatever games are all for the sake of shitposting. Everybody is aware of that.
No one would play a bad game with good visuals, yet everyone would play a good game with bad visuals.
>>341602820
Low cost and high profits, aka jews.
>>341590782
Someone post the Dark Souls 2 previews
>>341602820
Because they are afraid of luring in Sony's cancerous audience.
>>341591287
What game were you excited about that was persecuted?
>>341602820
imagine zelda on PS4 m8.
This game looks a bit Generic for a Zelda
>>341595173
>made the picture more sharp and added some color
How dare he! Games are supposed to look blurred, washed out and dull.
>>341597531
nice walking simulator nintendo.
>>341602820
because they don't poop out an "upgraded" console every 3 years
>>341603064
lol implying you will ever grasp the absolute EPICNESS that is dark souls 2
>>341602793
It's not Nintendo's fault that all you got was cinematic experiences and a game which was in development hell for far too long Sonybro.
So stop being so jelly, it is bad for your health.
>Fog is a "plot point
Same excuse Silent Hill developers went with in 98.
>holy SHIT we can't fix our pathetic draw distance!
>I know, let's just say the fog is magical and part of the story!
Nintendo in 2016 still can't into HD development.
Fucking hacks.
>>341603261
Dark Souls is the most overrated game series of the whole universe.
was anyone surprised that nintendo couldn't make their new zelda game look like witcher 3?
because I wasn't
>>341593312
>for you
Look at the stats on buzz. The new Zelda is the most talked-about and hyped game from E3 on all social media by leaps and bounds. Zelda won E3. Nintendo won E3 with just one game. Deal with it.
>>341602820
Because unlike Sony and Microsoft who sell their console at a loss which they make up for in games Nintendo has always had the strategy to sell at a profit and make money on every console sold.
>>341602820
they don't bother to spend the extra money to make decent consoles because they know that no matter how shit their hardware will be, there will always be an army of weebs that will buy enough of it to turn a profit because there aren't enough anime games on other consoles
>>341603472
No one was.
But Sonyfags have nothing to be excited about this e3 so they are killing time in threads like these.
>>341593257
I prefer it this way. I'd much rather have things look cartoony than realistic. Fuck realism. If I wanted realism in my escapism I wouldn't play video games and would just do shit in real life.
>>341590782
IT LOOKS GREAT
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
the game looks like shit tbqh
Wow, hahaha jesus, really really bad. I think they should have made it a NX exclusive, it would fit the game perfectly with its open world shit.
Sad. But I'm really stoked tbqh familia
>300 posts when OP actually put the top pic through photoshop and heavy filter abuse
why
>>341602820
Nintendo sells games.
Sony and Microsoft sell hardware.
Literally no one would care if Sony or Microsoft has a dated console because they are shit at making games. Their only "lure" is how cuttng edge their tech is. That is why they are in a constant pissing contest.
>>341603257
but it was outdated at the release anon. Ya dun memed
>>341603352
>Nintendo in 2016 still can't into HD development
Yes, they can, just look at SM3DW. It's the Zelda team that's full of retards. After WW everyone got a hard-on for bloom and blur for some reason. Even the WW remake got the treatment.
>>341603273
I play mainly on PC m8. Why are you so asshurt anyway?
>nintendo were the only ones to have any actual gameplay to show off
>"b-but look at these graphics! it's current year!"
>meanwhile
>"LMAO PCFATS ONLY CARE ABOUT GRAPHICS"
>>341603542
Of course it gets more talk when you stream it for 17h or however long it was you retard.
>>341595408
yeah this is what bothers me most about the climbing mechanic in the game.
when any surface can be climbed it doesn't even feel like actual climbing anymore.
>>341604256
>nintendo were the only ones to have any actual gameplay to show off
wat?
>>341602820
Lets see here.
N64 was more powerful than competition.
Got rekt, no one bought it.
Gamecube more powerful than PS2.
Got rekt, no one bought it
Wii practically the same as a gamecube, completely outdated in comparison to competition.
EVERYONE buys it.
DS is less powerful than PSP
Everyone buys it
3DS less powerful and 3D gimmick isn't all that great, Vita is very powerful.
Everyone buys 3DS
If they make a new powerful console, it will be..
Expensive (they will use custom Nintendo hardware which amps up the price, but gives better and more unique performance)
They would need tons and tons of 3rd party support, which Nintendo has virtually none of anymore.
And they would have to compete with 2 other systems, that are already powerful enough, what incentive aside from the exclusives would anyone have to choose the new powerful Ninty console over the other 2 that everyone is already used to and will have far more multiplats?
The only thing Nintendo would have is some type of gimmick, and if they're gonna go for a gimmick, that will either drive up the cost, or they will compromise the power for the gimmick to keep the price even.
Basically, the consumer is the reason why. They have shown with their purchasing money, that Nintendo making an honest, dedicated, powerful gaming system, means jack fucking shit. People wont buy it anyway and as a result, Devs have no reason to make games for it. So keeping things affordable and different for the sake of being different is really all they can do.
Nintendo fans will always buy, so why bother fulfilling them?
Nintendo's only hope is for another vidya crash. Then they can swoop in with the powerful console and steal the show again.
>>341604461
trailers and scripted events aren't gameplay, anon
>>341604130
I don't even own a Wii U, why would I be "asshurt"?
>>341604567
there was plenty of gameplay in most conferences, anon
>>341604610
Because you seem like you are.
Nintendo makes games for tiny children. But half of the people who play Nintendo games are black autistic atheists and people like that CWC guy.
So what if you've played the same games over and over again for 25 years, GET HYPED FOR A SHIT GRAPHICS SEQUEL!
>open world sucks sonyggers xD
>wow Zelda is now open world HYPE SONYPONIES LOST!
>wow sony graphics look like shit xD
>wow these zelda graphics are AMAZING hahaha do people seriously think sony won? nintendo forever xD
>>341596414
>LITERALLY PS1-tier wall texture
>nitpicking
There isn't really much to nitpick, the world isn't detailed at all, he was not nitpicking some small distant cliff texture, he stated that this huge fucking texture that covers your whole screen looks like blurry shit
nintentoddlers are the worst and deserve to die
>>341604529
>Nintendo's only hope is for another vidya crash. Then they can swoop in with the powerful console and steal the show again.
I think gaming's only hope is another crash. I want the focus to be on GAMES. I'm so sick of this fps, resolution, terraflops or whatever shit that is, graphics debates.
When they play a game, I want people to say "well that was fun" instead of "this was a game running at 900p at constant 30fps with slight dips to 20 something fps in intense moments with slight AAA issues and long loading times."
FUCK THAT. KILL THIS INDUSTRY NOW. I'M RAGE. KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
>>341604807
Your perception is off buddy. Realise that you are in a thread "complaining" about Zelda. I'm not complaining. I'm ok with what I see.
It's the people who complain has problems. Better ask them why they are asshurt.
>>341597410
you fucking imbecile you said it was all ice when its literally just a very cold river, the water looks like shit fucking accept it mong
>>341601518
>penis rock
>not calling it what it actually is
>cock rock
>>341593917
The 3DS did outsell the Vita, so
>people care about grafix
>Every game /v/ ever said was good has bad grafix
>>341598674
this lmao, so far the only bug I've seen during gameplay was Link getting stuck in a "watching the tablet" animation when switching too fast or bombs not making splashes when exploding underwater
>>341604831
How many bad games you have to play to be this jaded?
>>341605276
I hear they had something like that on the N64
>>341605016
I like my games with high fps, and it is about not getting a headache.
it looks so bad. i don't want skyrim i want zelda.
>>341605440
Did you have constant headache in ps1 era?
>>341593396
>>341593707
>>341594551
its amazing how the ps360 had way worse textures than this with open world games when they were "the latest" and yet everyone was sucking that shit up, now nintendo does better with the same hardware but it's suddenly shit because consoles that are 3 times more powerful than the Wii U have the edge in worse games by default, how about you try and compare it with dragons dogma on the ps3 hm?? oh that's right you would get BTFO immediately.
>>341605364
consolefags care about graphics
but only when the console they didn't buy is being held above the one they did buy
consolefags will pretend graphics don't matter when PCs are the subject
>>341604831
what the fuck? I've read this post like ten times, I cant figure out what the fuck you're trying to communicate
>>341594669
those aren't actually strands of grass.
That's multiple layers of the same texture stacked on top of each other with a slight height difference, then they move on the horizontal axis to create an illusion of waving grass.
It might not be obvious in lower resolutions on a crt monitor but you can see it if you emulate it.
>>341605180
So you're just here to bait? Alright.
>>341605550
I played on PC back then. GC was my first console. I did get a headache playing original Ocarina on friend's n64
>>341590782
What if bottom pic doesn't look like top pic because top pic is NX and bottom is Wii U
STOP MAKING FUN OF OUR GAME
PLEASE STOPP
>Wahhh, all that PC gamers care about is graphics.
>LOL, LOOK AT HOW BAD THIS GAME ON *RIVAL CONSOLE* LOOKS
You people are absolutely pathetic, and hypocritial af.
Seriously, if you care about graphics in the slightest, get a PC. Otherwise, quit your complaining and get over it. Every current gen console has been outdated and overpriced at launch.
>>341602820
because consoles were never about technical power, nintendo knows about the hyperbole and diminishing returns, one day games will take too long to make and be too costly to try and be fresh shit, that day you will all long for more feature rich ps2 games instead of the AAA liquid shit you will have to gobble up.
>>341603893
so I must have missed those games on E3 mate.
>4K screenshots
So now Sony fanboys get to shitpost about bullshots?
>>341605749
>So you're just here to bait?
What other purpose someone could possibly have to be in this thread? To kindly inform Nintendo crowd that their most anticipated game doesn't look so good?
kek
>>341604858
>he
>ur a nintoddler lmao
>lol die
:^)
>>341606129
I know right! Nintendo didn't show nearlyenough movie trailers to satisfy typical console player.
>>341591584
nice 2005 textures nintendrones!!!
>>341606080
but this looks like literal shit. It's 2 generations late
>>341606418
Horizon looks worse.
>>341593396
>>341593707
>>341594551
>>341590782
>People actually complaining about graphics and virtual grass.
>>341590782
>editing a 4k lossless image to look sharper and more saturated
>compare it to a 480p youtube shit quality stream ripped image
And to make matters worse Ninty already said BoTW will look better on the NX.
Its hilarious how badly people are trying to fault what looks to soon be the greatest game of all time. Just accept it and buy an nx when it comes out. This game is going to revolution the industry. Prepare for change. Nintendo is raising the bar.
>720p
Nintendo still in 2007 I see.
>>341606418
Who cares? If the game plays great, then the game is great. There's a reason why Dwarf Fortress, every rogue-like and countless old, popular PC games are still played by so many people, and it sure as hell isn't because they look pretty.
>>341606580
>buy an nx when it comes out.
hello mr marketer.
Why does every image of this game have some sort of fucking haze. I hope that shit can be turned off.
>>341590782
Looks exactly the same its just the stream is bad
>>341606665
>If the game plays great, then the game is great
This isn't true at all.
>people actually believe promotional material ever
Why? Why is it that people believe this garbage when it turns out to be a bullshot every fucking time? Notable recent example besides this would be DaS2 and UC4
>>341606848
You are right. A game needs a 2deep4u story and impressive visuals to be good. So that you don't have to watch a movie to get your fix.
>>341603651
Yes delete all the trees and polygons and give me low res textures and static lighting now that's real art direction
>>341591584
STILL LOOKS LIKE SHIT
SHITTY 360 GAME
HAHAHA NINTENDO CONFIRMED FOR NO GAMES. NO PLAYERS. NO FUTURE
>>341606875
>its my first e3 ever
that kind of people
>>341602487
Stupid compression deleting the lighting and shadows and vegetation and geometry
>>341606848
I'm not saying this game specifically, I'm talking about in general. Why bother complaining that a game on an underpowered machine looks worse than a game on another underpowered machine when you could discuss the things that actually matter instead? You're just trying to claim second place against a company that was never trying to get that title.
Really, all I'm saying is that if you're going to complain about something, complain about something actually relevant.
>>341606729
>not getting the greatest game in all of creation in the highest quality.
For me its intuitive because I wasnt stupid enough to buy a wii u. So I have to buy a system anyways to play this.
>>341607053
hi 5 sonybro WE FINALLY WON
>been emulating ps2 games
>it actually looks better than this trash
>>341597485
Every Nintendo game is gimmick focused. You really think Nintendo is going to start making actual games after 15 years of miyamoto putting his foot down?
>>341607150
it actally does mute out some of the grass, the grass doesn't look as great, but you cant even tell its there in streams
>>341607278
>Actual games
You mean cinematic experiences?
>>341597748
>company misrepresents their product
>you're an idiot for believing us! Just buy it anyway!
The worst part is nintendrones aren't even shills but just fucking autistic
>>341607268
It literally doesn't.
>>341607002
NO, look at mgsv for example.
You need some level of pacing, competent level design, and balance or you just end up with a retarded playground where you make your own fun which gets boring.
>>341603542
Isn't that Resi 7 with everyone going mental trying to solve that bloody demo? Either that or that mental Kojima trailer but I'm sure Resi is easily the most talked about game of the show.
>>341598218
Hide the horrible draw distance because the wiiu and nx are literally toasters
>>341607510
>or you just end up with a retarded playground where you make your own fun which gets boring.
Did it ever occur to you that some people prefer that?
>>341604567
I think the FFXV demo was actually live since it looked like they fucked up
The worst part is, I was really hoping that this and xenoblade would be good so it would justify buying one of their shitty consoles to play. ehy Can't they pull their heads out of their arses and get with the times?????
>>341607624
I prefer it.
>inb4 I'm just wrong because.
>>341607002
No, but when a game is clearly lacking in a certain major area where it shouldn't given the budget and talent involved, you can't just excuse it by saying it's not important. Consistent visuals are extremely important for immersion.
>>341607156
I'm not comparing it to any other system. Some things there can definitely be fixed within the limitations of the Wii U hardware, and them not being fixed is a result of incompetence of a part of the development team.
I don't like it when people downplay the importance of graphics.
>>341594179
Looks pretty decent actually, like a last gen Horizon.
>>341607268
This was the most retarded thing i've read all day. No shit. took some time to write shit, but nope, you're not even worth it
>>341605737
He was saying that because Nintendo fans want to rationalize their purchases, they are hypocritical in their assessment of quality.
Learn how to read shitpost
>>341607483
nah, it does
>>341593971
>meanwhile, in 2006
>>341590782
I blame the Wii U for this
>>341607824
The word you're looking for is "improved", not "fixed". I don't think it's an issue of incompetence at all, I see it more of a difference of priorities.
>I don't like it when people downplay the importance of graphics.
Why? Why do they matter?
Look, the graphics fulfil do everything they need to. It doesn't look great, but it's totally acceptable. The images don't do the game justice as you can see from checking out the game in motion. Again, it's not a great looking game, but I think it's a bit much to say it looks bad. Even if it did, it wouldn't matter.
>>341594037
>>341594470
What did he say wrong? That grass appears to be individual blades instead of texture clumps. It's sparse and shitty but I've never seen it done at all so it's a good first step
>>341595141
thats still 450000 million times than skyrim, a small tree literally explodes into a fucking different color and size tree, NO MODS. no wonder bethesda is excrement
>>341594930
No they're not dipshit. If you really think the only difference between the 2014 footage and 2016 is compression (i.e. Just resolution) then you need to get your fucking head examined. Compression doesn't magically delete lighting systems and polygon count on everything, nor does it warp foliage from lush and dense to incredibly sparse
>>341591959
>>341592020
>>341592110
>>341592175
>>341592264
just stop, it looks like complete garbage and at sub 30 fps too
You're not winning any hearts
>>341607824
> game is clearly lacking in a certain major area
Where exactly? We don't even know the full scale of this game, we didn't even see it on our own screens for a true visual experience. What kind of visuals were you expecting from a vast open world game, developed on a console equivalent to ps3?
What game had this kind of scale, no loading times, this kind of art style AND better visuals?
As far as I remember, GTA5 looked worse than this game. But it was incredible and no one expected more from it visually.
Mostof the arguments here boils down to "Wii is last gen." Yea everyone knows that. But people shitpost regardless, as if Wii U is a console that can compete with ps4 or xbone in terms of raw power.
I'm not downplaying the importance of graphics. Yea they are important for immersion. But not all games depend on it for immersion. I still play Medieval Total War 2 when I want to play a TW game. It has dated graphics compared to the recent ones. Do I feel less immersed? Nope. You are actually overrating the role graphics play in immersion. What I mean by graphics is, the raw visual quality. The visual style and atmosphere of the game has an enormous effect on immersion too. That is why while most of Zelda games look dated, they are one of the most immersive games ever.
I think /v/ should stop bullying Nintendo fans. They're sensitive little souls. LEAVE THEM ALONE
>>341604529
You're a dumb faggot who is over simplifying and ignoring changes to the market and thus completely fucking up your list, which makes you perfect as a Nintendo fan I guess.
>N64 was more powerful than competition.
>Got rekt, no one bought it.
No. It was "more powerful" in a few ways, but it got slaughtered on storage space, key for textures, audio, FMV, etc. which vastly reduced its theoretical advantage. PS1 had better audio hardware period in fact. It was also a vastly more expensive PITA to dev for, cost more period, and Nintendo were huge dicks.
>Gamecube more powerful than PS2.
Same storage and expense issues. Came out way later after PS2 already had big installed space. Horribly bungled development process. Much of the GC's entire existence was blunder after blunder. If you want to know the gory details (and you should if you're a fan and want to actually know what went wrong), read about it:
>http://www.dromble.com/2014/01/07/dolphin-tale-story-of-gamecube/
Finally
>Wii practically the same as a gamecube, completely outdated in comparison to competition.
PS3 and 360 both blundered themselves, in particular the PS3 being horrible to dev for initially, crazy pricey, and just generally Sony shooting themselves in the foot out of arrogance. The Wii also came at a transition period in the market. Yet even so, in the end it was the PS3 that had staying power, and ultimately the PS3 sold 85 million to the Wii's 101 million. The Wii won but not by a lot, and the sales for 3rd party software were abysmal.
Now, all those normals who bought the Wii have moved on to mobile. That market is just plain gone. Furthermore, the silicon industry has changed, no longer does competing on the high end mean having to dump a billion obamas into fabs and shit. Instead you just call up AMD and order what you want.
Nintendo learned all the wrong lessons and even worse continues to fight the last war. They have not adapted, just like you.
>>341607567
Here in Brazil it's Nord of War.
>>341594949
I'll take both on non-shit hardware please
>>341590782
Excited for emulation so pcpals can make that bullshot a reality
>>341590782
that top pic has also been sharpened and saturated to hell and back.
>>341594179
WOW COLOR ME SURPRISED THE COLORS ARE BETTER WHEN IT'S NOT RECORDED WITH A SHIT CAMERA
The textures and shadows are still garbage
>>341608595
>I've never seen it done
Should play more games man
>>341608918
>No. It was "more powerful" in a few ways, but it got slaughtered on storage space, key for textures, audio, FMV, etc
The only thing the PS1 had over the N64 was a dedicated sound chip and CD storage for games.
>>341609081
>>341608981
>>341608905
>>341608875
>Buttmad Sonyfags spend their time here shitposting because they have no game to be excited about on e3.
Hilarious
>>341590782
Why is Nintendo ruled by a bunch of lazy niggers? These graphics are PS3 tier. The artstyle doesn't come close to justifying why Zelda's graphics are terrible, both top and bottom. Seriously, this game looks decades old, fucking COD or BF have better grahpics.
>>341596414
>he actually defended it the absolute madman!
>>341607268
But that mountain in the background... Can it be scaled in a vertical manner?
>>341609187
Name one game that uses individual grass blades instead of texture clumps
>>341598260
>only playing it for 0,0285388 years
baka desu senpai
>>341608905
Nothing wrong with telling the truth.
>>341608918
Rek't
>>341590782
The top is from the NX version of the game
>>341609286
>The only thing the PS1 had over the N64 was a dedicated sound chip and CD storage for games.
>"only"
It was a REALLY FUCKING BIG DEAL. It was a 64 MB cart, which was also far more expensive for devs to manufacture and work with, vs a 750 MB CD which cost pennies, which in turn also meant it was practical to have 2-3 CDs if a dev wanted which made the disparity in storage even more ridiculous. The PS1 was super dev friendly, and even with less vertex power the immensely better texture and audio potential let devs produce beautiful stuff that looked much better then polygons would indicate. For many key late-90s games/genres the PS1 was simply the technically superior tradeoff, full stop.
In that respect it was an odd generation, we have long since passed the point where storage has become "good enough" because storage price/volume has fallen at a much more rapid pace then anything else in the tech world. But back then it was a genuinely huge deal.
Oh, and don't forget the PS1 had a solid year and a half head start too.
>>341609720
You're only supposed to shitpost sony threads here though buddy. Ninty and PC are supposed to be untouchable. Drop me your address and I'll make sure the rule book gets sent across to you.
>>341590782
Nintendo fags WILL defend this! IT'S LITERALLY okay when Nintendo does it.
see >>341609891. Can't wait til they reveal the NX RELEASE version (not E3 bullshot shit) and people try to defend that
Meanwhile back in 2011
Who cares it's little children's game
>>341593971
>this impresses Wii U owners
So did we ever get closure on the bloke that tried to steal the E3 LoZ build or not?
This is the only fucking thing i actually care about and i hope they succeeded if it was actually happening.
>>341610079
I'm PC faggoid, I'm just saying that the top is clearly from a more powerful system than the WiiU
how come zelda games never get called graphically downgraded even though they've looked like gamecube tier graphics for two gens now
but yet when a game like hitman comes out with some impressive as fuck textures, a bunch of faggots whine about how it looks like it's from the PS2 era?
are gamers just actually blind?
>>341609971
>For many key late-90s games/genres the PS1 was simply the technically superior tradeoff, full stop.
Are you blind by chance?
>>341591584
WELCOME TO 2004 NINTENDO! What do you think about mountain textures?
>>341610347
I NEED CLOSURE
Its okay when Nintendo does it
>>341607567
>mental
Fuck off chav, bruv innit Thats mental bruv
>>341590782
Fuck Nintendo. They're not even trying anymore. This shit is literally GC tier level of graphics. And don't give be this shit about cel shading, it's a poor excuse to lower everyone's expectations because art style. It's shit, Nintendo is shit, and anyone who defends this shit is equally as shitty. Nintendo deserves to fail for this monstrosity.
>>341610448
Are you? Or just delusional?
>>341610939
>pre rendered
Yeah that really showed me.
>>341610898
Sorry dude was dat too briddish fr u. Don't worry about me, I'm just suuuper ironic.
>>341595129
>owning a funko pop
opinion discarded
I was so disappointed when we first got a glimpse of gameplay footage of this a while back, now I'm excited as fuck. Unironically my game of E3. Shitposters will be ignored. Bring it on Nintendo, I am fucking ready.
>>341610939
Wait is that a 2d image of a town with 3d characters posted over it like a board game?
It's over, Nintendo is finished!
>>341610939
Very pretty, but pre rendered. Pls go.
>>341611305
Many games did that during that era. Zelda did it too I think, one I can think of is that starting room in Ocarina of Time. Resident Evil also did it.
>>341610930
>being this mad over a video game
Lol
>>341611018
It did show you. Only sperglords care about HOW pixels end up on the screen, what most people care about is what those pixels are and how they work with the game. For a lot of genres in general there is absolutely zero inherent advantage to rendering everything, "cheats" have always been critical to computer graphics. In computing, computation/storage tradeoffs have always been an issue and there are many cases where the same ends can be achieved in different ways.
If you want to say that JRPGs like FF7 or fighters like GG or whatever other genres didn't matter or don't count as real vidya or some shit you certainly can, but objectively most of the world disagrees with you and rightfully so.
>>341591063
yea, the stream hid all the grass, trees, textures, fov
>stop being a delusional toddler
>>341610347
>>341610640
The guy who posted that on Twitter heard it on an Etika stream.
It was fake, the faggot wanted attention.
>>341610448
>>341610939
I'm surprised neither of you posted this.
It kinda sums up the graphics of the PSX and N64
>>341611657
You said
>For many key late-90s games/genres the PS1 was simply the technically superior tradeoff, full stop.
displaying a bmp isn't technically impressive, it is an economic solution to weak hardware with a large storage space however.
They got a year to polish it guys.
>>341611767
Im always triggered by the usage of "PSX" despite it being both right and wrong.
Also fun fact - Dreamcast's Bleem! loader allows you to play all of legends with improved visuals in full but you get stuck due to the inability to look up or down (closer woods is where you get fucked)
On the dreamcast it looks fucking fantastic
>>341611657
I adore many games with pre rendered backgrounds, but BotW is about exploration, and pre rendered backgrounds would be about as practical as a chocolate kettle.
>implying you can only have fun with a game if "le graphics are gud :^)"
>>341611018
>>341611305
>>341611472
Thanks for proving yourself children, retards or both.
>>341611626
Nothing back then could do complex rendering in real time, everybody who wanted to make a visually good game had to use various graphics "cheats", it's part of the art and always has been. Hell, it still is even with modern engines, we still don't have the power to just RTRT everything with all the extra needed to look photorealistic.
Ok, graphics are shit, and drawn distance is fucked, but holy shit, it looks COMFY AS FUCK
>>341591063
Anon pls
>>341612043
>Nothing back then could do complex rendering in real time
Except the N64 and PC. Displaying a static image of something rendered on a workstation is not impressive in the slightest. OoT only used it for towns and interiors because of memory limitations, ones that were fixed in MM with the 4MB cart.
>>341590782
well it does exist, just on a dev version that runs on a PC which we will never play.
>>341611979
Sorry to trigger you, when the PlayStation was out the go to abbreviation was PSX, it's what all the forum posts said and what all magazines printed. It's kinda a mark of how old you are and if you were old enough to read and use the internet back in the mid-late 90s.
It was what Sony called their dev build stuff, the PSX abbreviation stood for PlayStation eXperimental but it just stuck with the fans and press.
Then later on Sony used it as the name for a little known JPOnry playstation with a DVD player and then they again used it as at their convention the PlayStation Experience, but to me the PlayStation will always be PSX, it's ingrained into my lexicon at this point.
Nobody buys a Wii U expecting good graphics, so the audience for this game is mostly people who don't even care about graphics, all the people who are complaining about the graphics probably don't have Wii U's so aren't going to buy the game anyway
>>341611889
Storage is part of the technical specs anon. Technical superiority refers to the entirety of the platform a dev has to work with, and that's more then just vertex power, it encompasses everything, memory, bandwidth, storage, and sub processing available, etc. I mentioned Guilty Gear (same would apply to MC or whatever also), because there you have pure sprites which don't benefit at all from vertex power, but even in its primitive initial form with The Missing Link it was still 177 MB, triple the size of an N64 cart. Lots of awesome, hardcore games like fighters, shmups, metroidvanias, and so forth look fantastic "merely" by virtue of storage, having lots of diverse areas and "pre-rendered"/premade assets to display combined with rich audio.
That is absolutely a technical specs issue between the N64 and PS1. The N64 won against the PS1 for some types of games, but the same is also true in reverse, there were PS1 games that were flat out impossible for the N64 to pull off in any real way (no shipping 25 carts and have players constantly swap was not doable).
Than god. This means we won right bros? Cant wait for God of war.
>>341611767
The N64 has no jaggies
>>341605654
> yet everyone was sucking that shit up
>WAS
it's 2016 grandpa, next gen already came out.
>>341612734
Nintendo hasn't been Sony's competition since the end of the Wii. NX will fail, and Nintendo will learn absolutely NOTHING from it and continue walking the path to failure. They're the definition of insanity.
>>341612298
>Except the N64 and PC.
Lol no. Neither the N64 or the PC could do anything great looking purely in real time. A liberal mixture of pre-render mixed in was used in most games outside of certain niches.
>Displaying a static image of something rendered on a workstation is not impressive in the slightest.
If you actually lived in the 90s you'd remember that most people even found games like Myst or Riven extremely impressive, and those were literally just static images one after another with a rare bit of video mixed in. The better PS1 RPGs blew people away back then.
>>341613369
They've learned they can make lots of money with physical DLC, that's something right? They must make bank in handheld too since it's pocket calculator hardware that they can just keep selling indefinitely, they probably don't need anything beyond the 3DS through like 2025.
>>341613369
>They're the definition of insanity.
Contrary to what you've heard that's actually not the definition of insanity and running the same test over and over and recording all the different results is a corner stone of the scientific method.
It still hurts.
>>341591287
Ubi games have dog shit gameplay on top of bad visuals. This comes from someone who actively plays The Division. That game uses too many resources for a PS3 looking game which does not even match GTAIV.
The optimization is also terrible.
If you play Nintendo games, you probably care more about the gameplay and the charm of it all, than the actual visuals. The game looks really fun.
>>341613491
>Neither the N64 or the PC could do anything great looking purely in real time
Like Quake or Majora's Mask?
>The better PS1 RPGs blew people away back then.
Insert joke about movies here.
This looks like monster hunter and nobody reasonably knocks them about their grafix
>>341605654
>b-b-but games in 2006 looked like this too, stop bullying nintendo
this game is coming out in 2017, you massive retard
>>341591905
different provence
>>341602787
>>341602958
Nintendo re uploaded the treehouse stuff and the gameplay footage is better quality than the stream
>>341613831
>Like Quake or Majora's Mask?
3D FPS was one of those niches along with 3D adventure, although no, MM didn't look particularly good. Saying "well for the hardware at the time in real time it looked good" is precisely the point, the hardware at the time was not up to making good looking stuff in real time except sort of in a game like a 3D FPS where full 3D RT was the entire core offering whether graphics mattered or not. And even then, FPS using pre-render/drawn assets like Duke 3D, Doom, and Marathon were all excellent fun and often beat out Quake in terms of what a significant percentage preferred and found lasted over the long term.
>>The better PS1 RPGs blew people away back then.
>Insert joke about movies here.
Not really interested in memes and nobody back then was either. Nintendo didn't find the hundreds of millions in sales they didn't get particularly funny.
>>341613797
The artstyle in BotW is much better than that generic shit.
I just wish they had the horsepower to pull it off on the WiiU.
It just can't seem to handle the game and the visuals suffer greatly.
If only it would actually look like the announcement trailer.
>>341613831
>Insert joke about movies here.
Not that guy, but it was when cinematics in games were awesome, people were blown away by cinematics in games like FFVII, Parasite Eve, and Resident evil.
People do still love FF for that alone.
I have no bias, in-game cutscenes , cutscenes using the game engine, and cinematics are great.
I disliked the way Reaper of Souls used WoW like narration instead of cinematics like in Lord of Destruction. LoD intro is still fun to watch.
Because it wasn't NX, and they already confirmed that to have "different visuals"
Source: https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/16/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-features-different-visuals-on-nx-but-same-experience/
>>341614303
>That choppy framerate
>>341614761
>along with 3D adventure
3D adventure games of the size and scope of OoT and MM rendered in real time (or in OoT's case, mostly real time) was unheard of back then and part of why they were received so well.
>>341590782
>photoshopped press shot on top in a location cherrypicked to show off the game as well as possible
>cherrypicked low-quality stream capture on the bottom
>>341590782
name game company that doesn't use bullshots, also the stream didn't help
>>341590782
>Make a good looking game
>Dumb it down a year later
Why? Nobody should support this. Nobody. Anyone who supports this should be publicly ridiculed.
>>341593953
>tfw I can be mini Guts
>>341590782
gameplay > graphics
Any day.
>m-muh grafix
>sonybronies act smug because their turds are shiny
>>341615168
IT'S OK WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT
but when Ubisoft did it they got hell at them, so why shouldn't nintendo?
>>341615527
Graphics were the only thing they have going for them
>>341614303
It still looks awful.
>>341614994
Yeah, like any tool it can be used well or badly. Also like a lot of tech innovations, it got more abused as it became cheaper and wider spread. When Square was first doing its FMV for example it was hilariously pricey, took forever to render, etc. FF7 was an expensive game for the time. That had a lot of effects, but one of the dev ones is that they really had to think about making it worth it, doing lots and lots of work ahead, because they couldn't just redo it a million times or get lazy, it was an investment. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that. Also, even with CDs being bigger compression was shit and they had to be frugal with how much they used.
Later on though it got cheap and easy for anyone which let devs go wild, and in turn abuse it. That's happened to lots of stuff in vidya though, some dev does something cool or awesome and then you see a billion me-toos a few years down the road, most of which are shit.
Never forget this is all your fault and this card should be stickied to remind /v/ of their eternal shame.
>NINTENDO = DOOMED LOOK AT THESE SHIT GRAFIX
>gameplay > graphics
>T-THE GAMEPLAY IS SHIT TOO!!! I BET!!
>>341608918
It's amazing how nothing I said contradicted you.
The guy i responded to asked why they wont make a new powerful console, all I did was explain their previous history of powerful consoles being unsuccessful, while their under powered gimmick consoles, end up ridiculously successful.
Hence why I added the point, that Nintendo making a powerful console means jack shit, it wont make people buy it, especially with the "hardcore" market divided already between Sony, MS and PC, and then devs as a result of no one buying the console, have no reason to make games for it.
If anything, you just reinforced why Nintendo shouldn't bother with a new powerful system, unless the competition outright dies.
It literally does not matter what they do if
People don't buy it
Devs don't develop for it, and thats exactly what keeps happening.
All that extra shit you mentioned is irrelevant when at the end of the day, it's just a matter of who buys.
When the average consumer buys a new iphone every fucking year, you need to rethink about how the consumer buys an item.
Clearly, no where in the consumer's mind is anything that you just said, that would mean everyone has common fucking sense. No one knew anything you mentioned when buying any of those consoles. It was a matter of games, brand and price.
If people had the common sense you assume they have, everyone would buy PC and call it a day.
>>341606482
yeah and dragon dogma on ps3 looked worse, played worse and ran at 540p. your point?
>>341611657
If YOU actually lived in the 90's you know the PS1's popularity had nothing to do with its hardware, but the games that were available on it.
>>341615856
I think we should send them another one.
Their streams are so comfy.
>>341614086
>>341613279
I said they looked worse on the same hardware, good job moving them goalposts, buttmad sonyggers, enjoy that scripted horizon zero game
>>341592331
Get out Sega faggot
>>341606515
What else would you do when a game is not up to par on how it should look?
>>341615018
erin
>>341616185
>If YOU actually lived in the 90's you know the PS1's popularity had nothing to do with its hardware, but the games that were available on it.
Which had everything to do with its hardware you fucking idiot. The games that were available on it and were popular could mostly not be done in 64 megs of space. Again, even games like fighters or shmups that "only" used 1/5 of a single CD were still 3x too big for the N64.
>>341616246
No, fuck off.
>>341594740
>157 mbs
about time I needed a reason to buy an SD card for my phone
