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"You only need an i5 for gaming" is this meme true?
works on my machine ;)
>>341579703
i have an i3. it works i suppose
>>341579770
>it works i suppose
What do you mean by this?
>>341580056
I can play all the games I want provided they were made before 2006.
>>341580118
nice
>>341579703
Not anymore no.
I had an i5-4460 and bought a 1080gpu.
Put everything to the max on witcher 3(even post processing, hairworks to x8 etc etc) .
It bottled the cpu to fuck. It did it on other games too
Swapped it for a i7-4790k and the difference is huge, no more bottlenecking, better fps
Yea. There are games in which i7's run better but the FPS difference isn't going to be huge.
I got an i3 2100 back in the day
It's trash and I can't play anything from 3 years ago.
I fucked up since I could have gotten an AMD FX 6300 6-core, and I would have changed it now anyway
JUST
>>341581875
The fps difference is big. My old cpu bottlenecked so I was dropping a shit load of frames.
the i7-4790k is about the best for single core usage, it even beats the 6700k
>>341579703
For 1080p, 60 yeah, that's enough. If you plan to go higher then no
>>341582094
nah
>>341582137
nah? read >>341581459
I think I know because of that
i have an i5 3570k, will i be fine when i buy a RX 480 ?
>>341582341
I think your anecdotes are worthless, just like your fat ass.
>>341582414
are kids off school or something?
>>341582367
no you need dual i7's if you don't want to bottleneck a $200 card
>>341582367
you will be yes. Itll be fine with that
>>341579703
Yes. Despite what many are saying, only a handful of games support more than 4 cores, and even those that do still work fine on 4 cores.
The only reason to go with an i7 is if you're trying to go past 1080p or if you just hate money.
>>341579703
ITT technologically illiterate retards
>>341582501
kek
>>341579703
I have fucking Athlon x4 it works perfectly fine.
>>341582561
should i also buy a new fan for the cpu, im stilling using the stock one. is there much OC potential and if not, what future proof cpu could i buy ?
>>341582501
>>341582634
samefagging
i hate money xd
>>341582708
There is oc potential, most go watercooling now for that.
I have an afterstock fan as you can get quieter & more effeicient ones than the stock type.
Theyre not expensive so I would yes.
>>341582708
what chipset?
>>341582746
>gtx 1080
>1440p@144Hz
Wew. Somebody who actually has a good monitor to justify their expensive graphics card. I feel like throwing up when I see someone with a current gen graphics card but a 1080p@60hz monitor.
>>341579703
Used to be up until a few months ago.
At this point I wouldn't bother with i5 if you buy a cpu, just go i7
>>341582841
where do i see that ?
>>341582746
Tell me this - how does 144hz feel?
Is there even a noticeable difference between 60 and 144hz?
>>341582865
I bought the monitor and then I realized I needed to upgrade from my 970. Tfw 1440p 100+ fps with all on high
>>341582865
i m using my 47 plasma as gaming screen, fight me.
>>341582997
60 feels like garbage after I go back. Although I can quickly adjust to 60fps capped games after I play for a bit
>>341582970
CPU-z has pretty clear info on south bridge.
do you know your motherboard name?
I use an i5 2500k on a 1440p with everything high / ultra, and a 780. And I get 60+ fps on everything I've ever played.
>>341582708
Yes, the stock fan (in my experience) throttles even when it's not OC'ed.
As for which one, just google reviews of coolers in your price range. Personally I like closed loop water coolers like the corsair hydro ones, but if you're going for air cooled most people agree that noctua is king.
>>341583039
Console gamers shouldnt be posting on pc threads. You know that.
>>341583098
doom fps?
>>341579703
I use a 6350 and I love it
>>341583039
I am also using a tv as a monitor and dread changing to a little manlet screen.
i've been on an i5 760 for the last 6 years.
it has been able to handle gta5, the bitcher 3 wild cunt and other titles where my cpu falls behind the specs.
>>341579703
Just get a 4690k, games will never develop to a point where i5 won't cut it.
>>341581459
>he spent 700 bucks on a GPU to go with a budget CPU
laughinggabe.vtf
>>341583091
ivy bridge cpu, motherboard is asrock z77 pro 4
>>341583123
not an argument
>>341583373
then you can OC without a problem.
>>341582597
>The only reason to go with an i7 is if you're trying to go past 1080p
>you need more CPU performance as resolution increases
This is why I lurk technology threads on /v/, always a good laugh at retards like you.
>>341579703
it depends on your GPU.
I have a i5 4690k and a gtx meme70 and it works for me. I haven't played any game that hasn't run at 60 fps 1080p using at least high settings.
>>341583332
>games will never develop to a point where i5 won't cut it.
I want to kick you in the throat. Kill yourself
>>341583542
Same
>>341583303
my panasonic plasma has such a good image quality, it would be waste not to game and watch films on it.
>>341583497
okay im not sure if i have the k version. does cpu-z show that ?
>>341582597
Clueless retard
>>341583652
yes, cpu-z shows that
>>341583650
Why? Truth hurts? I'm being dead serious.
>>341583790
does that mean i don't have the k version ? and if yes what upgrade can i buy if any without buying a new motherboard.
>>341582597
You do realise that over 60fps the majority of i5s will start to bottle.
>tfw 6 years old first gen i5
>>341583851
He's still mad he fell for the i7 meme
>tfw fell for the i5 4690k meme
Did I fuck up bros. Is it enough for 1440p?
>>341580118
This is fucking bait. I play 5 year old games on a fucking Core 2 Quad, eat a dick.
/TRUGURD
>>341584638
if you have a 980ti or up you will be fine.
>>341584615
You having to post shyte as you are so clueless. Its funny and sad.
If you want max settings on everything no it won't cut it. If you can live with medium/high settings then yes its fine.
>>341584084
thats just the regular 3570 not the 3570k
I have an i5-6600k with a 970 and I can run most modern games on max just fine.
>>341585056
fuck, what does this mean in difference for OC ?
I have an i5 3330k, it still hold up just fine, I just need a stronger GPU.
>>341579703
i5 2500k here.
Just works, even with cpu intensive games like arma, dorf and siege. Every time I feel like it's sluggish I OC it by another 0.5ghz or so.
Right now running at 4.5ghz 24/7 with a 20 quid cooler and it never goes above 70 degrees
>>341581459
Stop playing unoptimized AAA garbage.
>>341585216
the "k" simply means it has an unlocked multiplier, in otherwords that it allows you to overclock. as far as i'm aware you can't overclock a regular 3570 unless you raise the BCLK, but other things are tied to that frequency as well so you could potentially damage other parts or things might start acting strangely.
to put it simply you can't overclock unless you get a new chip. theres no real point in buying a new one to replace what you have since overclocking only earns you like 15-20% performance increase.
>>341585372
this. If you are not playing on glorious ps4 you're wasting your hardware on garbage games
>>341585372
so just play jap cartoon pedo porn like you then?
nah
>>341585216
You can't OC a locked (non k) cpu. Seems like someone didn't do their research. Just get a 4690k and an aftermarket cooler.
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tvzv6h/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k
>>341584541
same here. Things still tickin and I can play witcher 3 on ultra with just a r9 380. Dont know what these cockheads who need i7s for gaming are on about
>>341585432
All ps4 games are unoptimized AAA garbage are they not?
>>341581459
it would have been the same with a 4690k you know
>>341585437
modern AAA on PC is so fucking unoptimized it's not even funny
>>341579703
Depends on which i5 we're talking about.
measuring the power of the CPUs only by the i3/i5/i7 nomeclature will lead you to buy an overpriced shitty CPU, which is exactly what those jews want you to do.
>>341579703
A russian website did a CPU bottlenecking testing for GTX1080 and 1070. CPU used is i4790k
>>341585516
>Seems like someone didn't do their research
i was of the opinion that i bought the k version but i didn't. i wont need a new MB for the 4690k right ?
>>341585649
the last one I played was MGSV and it ran flawlessly, my dude.
DOOM seems to be pretty good as well but I haven't played it yet
I guess only having a ps4 makes you mentally ill enough to have this kind of bias tho, try idortism to sooth your aching butthurt
>that feel when you didn't fall for the I don't need a K i5 chip
You will need to overclock at some point cunts
>>341585627
Not if the PS4 exclusive was built to squeeze every bit of juice from the hardware the way Nintendo does it. Western devs can't seem to do that.
And then you have multiplatform AAA games, the real unoptimized garbage. Multiplat AAA games are like the true definition of "compromise" in that no one is happy.
>>341585432
>stop playing AAA unoptimized garbage
>the reply says to play on ps4
Bruh...
>>341585856
Original article: http://www.ferra.ru/ru/system/review/experiment-cpu-for-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-1080/
Use it with google translate
>>341585718
No it won't. Im a dummy. 4690k is 1150 and you have 1155. Well, that's not a huge deal anyway. You still have a decent enough cpu, m8. Are you getting bottlenecks or something?
>>341585718
i think the 3570 runs on the z77 chipset, whereas the 4690k runs on z97. unless i need correction then yes you will need a new motherboard. even if it ran at the same chipset it honestly wouldn't be worth the money to upgrade to the 4690k unless you have money to burn.
>>341585646
I bought my 4460 back in late 2014, so I thought if I was changing I may ands well go for one that i wont need to swap out & will last a while .
>>341585903
>in that no one is happy.
more like consolecucks aren't happy because they know they get the inferior version
>>341585768
>implying I don't have a PC
MGSV was made on the Fox Engine, they fucking tuned it to PC. The game is the exception to the norm, it appears you forgot that Batman game or how FO4 ran smoother with way higher frequency RAM.
>>341585516
you can oc the new non-k skylake cpu's though. wish i bought a better mobo. only if i knew man. fuck my life.
>>341579703
I have an 3.6ghz i3 with a 970 and I managed to play every game so far on highest setting
Shit just needs some optimizing and satanic rituals to work
>>341584360
My i5-4690k holds just fine on higher frames.
Only in some older badly optimized games my CPU bottlenecks before my GPU and for that i7 is even worse.
>>341585690
>>341585758
>>341585856
wanna translate ffs.
>>341586171
nyet
>>341585768
>the last one I played was MGSV and it ran flawlessly, my dude.
That's like the exception though. It was praised for being last year's best PC port.
I could play that game flawlessly on the best graphics even though my specs are far from top notch.
Witcher 3 on the other hand, is probably the most bloated game on the PC. Everything looked like a mess once I finally was able to make it run smoothly. And the game looks worse than MGSV in general.
>>341586115
that was patched
>>341586171
Top section - 4 cores
Bottom section - 4 cores + 4 threads (hyper-threading)
The numbers are minimum and average FPS for given CPU frequency - 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5 GHz
>>341581939
still using i3 2100,
playing Battlefront 1 at 40-60 fps with GTX 750ti
I love it
>>341586064
>>341586069
at the moment everything is fine except for the gpu and the noise. When i buy a new fan for the cpu can i use it in the future with another cpu ?
>>341586160
The 4790k is the best single core usage cpu on the market.
the 4460 was fine with the 970 but when I got the 1080 it was killing it
>>341586115
Thats news to me. Cool. I'm AMDfag at the moment. Going to upgrade my everything this summer after non-reference 1080/1070 is released. fx6300 @4.5 is a piece of shit on my 970. I didn't know shit about building PC's 3 years ago and learned the hard way. Still a decent enough set up for the money though.
>>341584705
>playing 5 year old games
why would you want to though? I play the old stuff 75% out of choice.
OpenXcom > XCOM: Overwatch Spam edition
>>341586081
You have a point with batman, FO4 was a fuckup all around so you DO NOT have a point, especially when it ran so fucking poorly on consoles
>>341586226
Witcher 3 ran pretty well for me at almost all ultra, only thing that wasn't was the gameworks shit which I had turned off from geralt with a mod, looked faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than MGSV too. Only places where it dropped under 60 consistently was Roche's hideout for some reason
>>341586346
Yea well.. I can understand since I have 970 and the combo is running great.
>>341586332
if it fits your socket type yes. some coolers are designed only for one socket type. others are designed as hybrids so they can fit multiple sockets.
Since we're in a tech thread, is there any incentive to upgrade from a 770 to a 1070 for 1080p gaming, or will a 980 suffice for now? They're dropping in price by insane levels
>>341586493
>hybrids
can u name a few ?
>>341579703
The only thing I can think of that takes so much processing power for an i7 is
1. Emulation
2. Heavily modded skyrim
and
3. Dorf Fort
>>341586506
if you can push for a 980ti. Its a big jump from a 980
>>341586332
So far with skylake it works with most stuff. I have a hyper 212 evo and it will work with new stuff. Just do a bit of research if you plan on upgrading to skylake. I would get the Cryorig r1 for dat aesthetic because it performs as well as the Noctua without the hideous (IMO) brown set up. Water is a different story. Most work though. From what I know 1151 (skylake) is the same set up as 1150.
>>341586556
>Heavily modded skyrim
I dont think it uses 8 cores
>>341586493
off the top of my head the coolermaster hyper 212 evo fits both the lga1155 socket (i think this is the same one the 3570 uses), and also the lga1151, as well as AMD counterparts. that and a waterblock for my current build are the only two aftermarket coolers i've bought so i'm unsure of anymore. the 212 evo is only like $20 and performs well for the price
is a rx 480 a good upgrade from a 7970 ghz ?
>>341586714
sure
>>341586556
Dorf Fort is single core anyhow
>>341586549
almost all the good coolers can fit/have adapters to fit each socket
>>341586258
I assume the green squares are the ones where the bottleneck is the GPU and the white ones are where the CPU is the bottleneck?
>>341586234
is it patched? end of may there were still reports of oc'ing non-k skylakes though.
do you have sources on that?
>>341586714
The ebst
>>341586506
I'm still using a 290x (roughly as powerful as 980) and I'm still fine for new releases. Although, the last big release I played was Witcher 3. This is at 1080p, of course. But yeah, like this guy said: >>341586570 a 980 Ti will last you longer.
I love my 290x. I can't see myself replacing it until something like Witcher 4.
>>341586814
Yes
>>341586714
die shrink
ridiculously improved power efficiency
stock clock it's faster than a 390x, overclocked there is no idea what it can reach
so yes
>>341586793
thanks
>>341579703
Unless you plan on getting a 1070/80 you're wasting your money going above an unlocked i5. If you are getting a 1070/80 then you have enough money to max out everything else.
>>341586830
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031255/hardware/its-official-intel-shuts-down-the-cheap-overclocking-party-by-closing-skylake-loophole.html
>>341586258
thanks man i ll check them now.
>>341586549
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xFw323/cryorig-cpu-cooler-crr1a
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15
2 best coolers IMO.
>>341581459
Yeah, you really need that i7.
>>341586920
could at least give the hyper 212 a shoutout for being super cheap and being really good, those coolers only beat it by a small margin for a much larger cost
Mustard race
>>341586786
Well it's no wonder the game runs like shit
>>341586663
Yeah I didn't realize that but the remaster is supposedly not only 64bit but also using dx11, would that allow usage of 8 cores?
>>341586897
its disabled in the new bios not the older bios. i knew you still could do it and the stuff i read last 2 months are not wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiw2r-_AdGM
>>341586920
I meant 2 best Air Coolers. Obv they both have their downfalls. I think the Cryorig has issues with tall ram. I don't mess with liquid cooling as of now but it's not hard to find info on toms hardware forums.
>>341587031
I sure hope my new 4690k allows me to have a 200 dorf forts with more than 2 fps
>>341587001
You're right I should have but I mentioned it earlier as it's the one I use currently. It got my fx6300 to 4.5 ghz easily and they like to run a bit hot. I have the voltages up quite high too unfortunately. Wanted to go higher but really not worth it.
i5 2500k, a 5 year old processor, won't be a bottleneck unless you're doing 4k gaming or VR
>>341587035
another source from april. you can do it guys. just buy a mobo, download the appropirate bios and buy a non-k cpu!
FUCK MY LIFE FOR GOING CHEAP ON MOBO REEEEEEEEEE
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/418425,skylake-overclocking-unlocked-extract-maximum-performance-from-non-k-series-intel-6th-gen-cpus.aspx
>>341586981
Graphics medium. Well yeah because im playing it on that setting with my 1080.
Did you read my post or did you just go retarded for the giggles
>>341587151
> unless you're doing 4k gaming or VR
Resolution barely affects CPU performance.
>>341587035
thats base clock overclocking...not multiplier, multiplier overclocking is what people reference and use K cpus for
some gpus can bottleneck an i3.
If you spend 300 or more on a gpu, its generally a bad idea to pair it with a $100 cpu
>>341587151
It's actually easier to bottleneck a GPU at lower resolutions
>>341587195
At settings any higher than that you wouldn't see any differences because the GPU becomes the bottleneck.
>>341587001
how much louder is 10 db ? the hyper 212 seems to be a cheap and good option.
>>341587226
sure but you can still push the clock of a 3.2 ghz i5 6500 to 4-4.5 ish mark. this is very good tb.h
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK94qZLW1VI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUTPgWYTqyk
>>341586981
Ever think that the game on medium would have significant less CPU requirements because of the low draw distance requiring significantly less draw calls?
>>341587247
so you are trying to tell me my 1080gtx bottlenecks on the witcher 3?
Seriously, or are you trying to troll
>>341586298
>40-60fps
why not just play on a console?
>>341587312
honestly, i couldnt tell you the difference in sound, i always have headphones on and I never pay attention to the acoustics of my computer, that being said, I also have a fan on in my room constantly as I cant live without good air circulation in my room, which itself is quite loud too but I never heard my computer over my fan
>>341586556
I like it for zbrush and maya
I can play what I want happily because I'm not an elitist pc mustard race faggot who think anything less than 60fps is dog shit.
kill yourselves.
>>341587031
Fallout 4 did (Was even one of the few games that got noticeable improvement on i7) so probably yes
>>341587563
that seagate is going to cook
>he bought a gtx 960
why would you do this to yourself
>>341587563
But it is.
Resolution doesn't matter but playing at anything less than 60 on PC is just stupid.
>>341587362
>>341587195
IIRC that's how you do CPU benchmarks
>>341587443
My PC is cheaper than PS4.
also
>fps
>on a console
Just kill me guys. I want to buy a new computer but seeing all these threads makes me think that I'm going to buy a shitty one because I don't know anything about all this. What's good hardware for 1080p gaming?
>>341587563
is that the idle temps? holy shit the cpu & that poor seagate
>>341587712
If you can't wait for Zen, just get a Skylake CPU and since you're an Nvidiot, save your money to get a 1070.
why buy "k" cpus anymore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfTcXQlsbs
>>341587563
I dont mind on consoles but on PC dropping under 60 is annoying especially with vsync on
>>341587712
4790k + 1070gtx
Or get a 6700k if you think you need DDR4
>>341587695
Yeah. You do the tests on minimum settings and resolutions to maximise CPU impact
>>341584638
put your shit to [email protected].
Quad i7's and quad titan x is my go to rig for when I want mad frames in minecraft
>>341584638
4690k is great you dolt
>>341587784
The new AMD cards looks great but I'm worried about compatibility issues. Is it as bad as it's said?
>>341587834
Thanks for the advice, I'm gonna see about that.
>>341586981
only reliable and true statement of this whole thread
go buy a i7 if you hate money. Worth it for 5 fps rite? xddd
>>341587563
Framerate is gameplay
60 fps is barely fluid
>>341579703
Yep.
>>341587958
you dont actually believe this do you?
>>341583346
not really budget. just because its not THE most expensive cpu on the market doesn't make it budget.
>>341587958
have to agree 60 fps has to be the least amount of fps in gaming.
If you dont atleast have the latest tech then youre a pleb dont even try and talk to me
>>341587791
because the 4690K might still be a better value depending on sales
>>341587876
tfw i can only get 4.3 @ 1.3v stable and it still runs super hot :(
yes I have a good cooler, yes I have used new thermal paste, etc
>>341587563
You, I like you.Though clean your fans to get those temps lower.
>>341584705
and? i completed gta v on a core 2 duo
>>341588068
Elaborate
>>341587928
4690k is fine too, and by extension 6600k if you want ddr4, I'd still go for the 4790k at this point especially if you can find it at a deal though
>>341587954
i5 uses 100% cpu usage on a game. Buys an i7 and its using 50% max.
Noticable 15-20 fps gain too.
Yes this did happen
Are SSHD great or should I just go with a normal ssd? Is it useful to have a 1 Tb SSD or just have a150 Gb one for windows and a HDD for the rest?
fuck this gay thread
boxer shorts or pantsu
>>341588383
256 and 400 GB SSD prices have dropped significantly lately. I recommend getting one for Windows, software and frequently played games and a regular HDD for everything else if that's not enough for you
>>341588324
if you gained 15-20 fps from an i5 to an i7(assuming relatively close tiers) then there was something else going on causing the fps problem
>>341588383
SSHD are shit. Some games are great on SSD due to faster load times (CIV5 and fallout 4 come to mind), so if that is appealing to you get a bigger one, if not get a smaller one and use it for windows. Shit a smaller one is good enough for windows and a couple of games
>>341588324
Just saying 'i5' and 'i7' doesn't actually mean fuckall, anon
>>341588383
I'd get a 240gb ssd for like 60 bucks
>>341588542
pantsu on head
>>341588659
No there was nothing else. It was the cpu usage.
The 1080gtx was having 0 issues. nor was my 24 gb of ram.
Its a known thing try googling it.
>>341588709
i5-4460.
i7-4790k
OP here, boys I just bought an i5 6600k did I fug up?
>>341587857
More objects in a scene has a cpu impact as well retard.
>>341588906
yeah no, that definitely did not happen, i7 vs i5 benchmarks are available everywhere, none of them have shown anywhere close to 15-20 fps difference, at most it ends up being 1-3 fps
keep trying though
>>341588915
yes, yes you did. if anything i would have bought a 6100 as a place holder until kaby in 4 months. (or zen) like any of you care. 6600k, 6700k are incredibly underwhelming cpus assuming you overclock. (which is why you bought the k version)
>>341589024
I think its like 10 fps in fallout 4, maybe he means that
Arma games run worse on i7 though lol
How do you all take those speccy images?
>>341589152
Do a screenshot and cut it in paint.
>>341589152
Cellphone camera
>>341579703
The i5-4690 processor is still more than decent and will probably remain like that for the next two to three years.
>>341589152
uhh...you take a screenshot of speccy? im not trying to eb a smartass here but thats it
>>341589024
So All the programmes I had running checking usage in front of me on my computer are wrong are they?
did they use an i5-4460 and a 1080gpu with ultra settings and all post processing totally maxed out?
please find me those. Then find me the one where they tried that but with the i7 instead.
How do you even overclock a computer?
Google surprisingly gives bad info for me on this.
>>341579703
I run an i5 3450 and it's done me fine with everything so far, though for games like ArmA 3 I do find myself wishing I had just a little more power.
>>341589221
>cut it in paint
Alt+Prt Scr
>>341589341
Press turbo button on front of case
who /take speccy pic immediatly after starting up pc to show off low temps/ here
>>341582414
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2275&cmp[]=2565
Herp derp.
>>341589341
Kagamin a cute
>>341589268
http://ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=4
this is just one of many, literally the only game it had a 'major' different(8fps) was skyrim, and even then when both were OC'd to the same clock they were equal
your anecdotes mean nothing compared to the literal tons of benchmarks available
Would an i5 with $200 gfxcard be enough for Elite Dangerous? 60 fps would be nice too.
>>341583542
I have the same setup and Gta5 along Witcher 3 really struggle with these games on high-ultras due to CPU.
>>341589564
>passmark = realworld
top kek
Anyone here has some experience with Freesync vs G-sync monitors? I want to jump on the 144hz experience with 480 but I fear that Freesync is the worse choice out of the two.
>>341589221
>>341589251
Thanks. Here's my toaster. I intend to upgrade it once rx 480 comes out.
>>341589341
you just change 3 numbers, baseclock, multiplier and voltage. http://www.overclock.net/f/ probably has guides
>tfw playing with a €100 amd quadcore and gtx 560
seriously dont see a reason to upgrade
>>341589479
more like
>forced to get skymeme without a proper budget and got cucked
>>341589731
At least you have enough vram to run DOOM. It won't even launch on my computer.
>>341589587
>http://ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=4
im asking for the witcher3 ones which is what im basing mine off. Which I have from the start of the thread.
Thats article is from 2013. Like I say im using a 1080gpu so please show the results using one of those.
>>341589783
explain to me how i got cucked? im really curious what's going on in your mind. i can play any game i want.
>>341587652
>50°C
>going to cook
yeah no, all components are literally ok up to like 80°C, then it's a problem
>>341589024
What you're failing to grasp is that having i7 won't actually help with max FPS, that's still largely dependant on your GPU. It'll help bring up the minimum FPS though, while reducing how much of your CPU's power you're using.
If your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU, then you can see huge increases in FPS by to something which isn't being bottlenecked. But that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else will get the same performance increase.
How do you know what ram is good or not for the price? I wan't 16 Gb but I don't want to buy something too expensive for what it is.
>>341589905
just keep moving the goalposts, the i7 does not give a 15-20 fps difference over an equivalent i5 in gaming, you can say you got that through your setup and MAYBE you did, but benchmarks have shown that to not be whats going on
>>341589943
By not forcing to get skylake and went with a nice 4690k, you'd get more performance and mileage down the line.
>>341589587
https://steamcommunity.com/app/292030/discussions/0/615085406673485559/
"All four cores hitting 80 to 99 in sections of the game (Novigrad especially) causing frame hitching and occasionally crashes."
I5 4670k 3.4ghz
The game also pushes my CPU to 100%, I've never seen such usage and temps while gaming, only when running Intel Burn Test. I ordered some MX2 to hopefully cut off 5c or so.
i5 3570k @ 4.4GHz (previously 4.5GHz).
>>341590145
show me them using a 1080gpu like I have said and keep saying on the highest possible settings for the game.
>>341590113
Its ram, who cares just buy cheapest and fastest supported by your motherboard.
>>341590090
there are very few games where the cpu is actually bottlenecking the gpu though, as shown above in the russian benchmarks, yes it absolutely does help with minimums, but not to that extent
>>341590150
i'm not overclocking so that's an awful idea.
>>341590303
but on base speeds with no OC, you get 25% extra performance in multi core calculation, and 17% single core performance.
And then, you can OC and get extra 2 years out of it.
A 5 year old i5-2500 still gets 60+ FPS in current games.
I can't decide if upgrading would make sense.
>>341590527
The operating system is the only thing that needs an upgrade.
>>341589479
this is my exact build but I only have 8gb of ram
>>341590601
I will always buy Microsoft Windows™ because the future starts now™. Microsoft also pioneers innovative new technologies like DirectX™, Office™, and the highest quality operating system to ever grace computers.
When I boot up with a brand new computer running Microsoft Windows™ with the latest Z chipset powered by Intel™ and latest Nvidia™ graphics, I can enjoy the games the way they where meant to be played™. Microsoft™ also pioneers in the gaming field with its latest Xbox™ console to allow gamers to play on their big screens with family and friends.
Microsoft Windows™ is also very secure. It's the most secure operating system on the planet. It's harden against NSA probes, tested by highly trained and experienced programming engineers to have ever graced this planet. With such innovative security technologies like UAC, Defender, Security Essentials, BitLocker, and Windows™ Firewall you can ensure all your sensitive data is secured and you're safe on the internet. Microsoft™ most advanced, and dare say, the most advance web browser on the market, Edge™, has decoupled addon support, like flash, to ensure maximum user safety when browsing the web. You can ensure Microsoft™ keeps you safe from the NSA. At this point in time there's really no reasons to consider Linux. I tried once. It caused my Nvidia™ graphics to overheat so much due to its poor quality, novice programmed, open source drivers that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house.
It's quite clear that OPs a Linux shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Windows™. Windows™ is the only real way to play games or do anything productive. We've seen that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Visual Studio and Microsoft C++ Compiler. He is probably too poor to afford the Microsoft Windows™ experience and can not afford to play any games.
The Future Starts Now™ with Microsoft Windows™
>>341590421
actually 6500 performs better with all cores than the 4690k. and on top of that its cheaper. and i already told you i'm not overclocking. getting a k processor when you're not overclocking is retarded.
>>341588906
Well you're kinda doing a performance and price jump, from x4 to x7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jc_2EQb658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxGge0tR4IM
the only two videos you'll ever need
>>341586981
Is 2500k the best cpu ever made?
>people unironically fell for the 16GB of RAM meme
>>341591192
for its time, yes
>>341591292
some games are starting to require 8gb now so shut up loser.
>>341591292
a) ram is super cheap right now
b) if you want to game and browse internet/skype/watch videos at same time it absolutely does help
>>341591461
Yeah money well spent faggot
>>341591528
im so so sorry you're poor.
>>341591461
>>341591506
i'm running 8gb of ram and i never run into problems when multi tasking. i can be playing the witcher 3, running skype and watching football on a second monitor with no hiccups
>>341591582
You'll be poor if you keep burning money like a retard.
>>341591740
16gb is more ram power than 8gb ram power.
>>341589697
Kill yourself.
>>341592231
kek
>>341592187
Anon you really are a fucking thick cunt arent you.
Holy.Fuck.
I was wondering what the hell was wrong with my FPS in Doom. I'm running it at 2560x1080-130FOV Low-Mid and still getting dips below 60 often, but these temperatures when I just started the computer make it very clear there's something wrong in my system.
Should I open the thing and clean it myself having no clue what is what or should I take it to technician?
>>341592187
not really. i got more money coming in than going out, unlike you.
>>341592627
honestly you wont be thermal throttled on cpu til it gets to 85C+, for gpu it depends on what you set it to but I believe that the 780 by default has an 83C temp limit before it throttles, you can increase that to 93 in afterburner and should be fine, maybe increase the fan speeds if you are ok with some more noise
definitely get a can of compressed air and clean out your computer if its dusty, do NOT hold the air down for more than 1-2 seconds at a time or else you will get condensation on your computer which leads to short circuiting unless y ou let it dry out
>>341592627
What the flying fuck
Is your gpu fan dead or something
Open the side case, look at your gpu and case fans if they're spinning
>>341592627
post pic of your case with the side panel off
>>341592627
look at your gpu fan and see if anything is blocking it or if it's even working
>>341592627
oh i >>341592873
didnt realize this was idle temp...yeah your gpu has to have something going on with it, even with my fan off, idle temp for my 980ti is super low
speccy thread? im in
>>341592934
Lets hope a dead cat doesnt fall out
>>341592978
opening speccy with an amd cpu always freaks me out
fucking false readings
>>341592978
Anon, what the fuck? The blood in your CPU will boil off!
>>341592978
Wow anon does that thing heat your house too?
>>341592873
If he just started his computer and isn't doing anything a gpu shouldn't be that hot
>>341586981
980 is the bottleneck here, even on medium
and those processors aren't even overclocked
>have 560ti
>runs fine for years, but suddenly starts crashign when under load, reaching tame temperatures such as 73°C before the screen goes black and the rig freezes, leaving only a hard reset
>spend dozens of hours googling and tinkering to try and fix the problem
>nothing works
Fucking hell
I've replaced it since then but I'm still mad, it was such a ncie card if not for that crap
>>341593151
yeah i just realized that and commented afterwards, thats ridic
>>341593204
Oh and I thought I fixed it when I underclocked it quite a lot since it ran stable in furmark, but then it crashed when I played my first demanding game
>>341592863
Buy yourself a golden buttplug
>>341593187
the point is the gpu is the bottleneck, even with a 1080/1070 or a 980ti the bottleneck is the gpu
>>341579703
Yes, don't expect top of the line, but it will still be better than what consoles can offer.
>>341593372
holy shit you're mad
>>341593476
lol u mad?
>>341593387
even when you have a programme like msi afterburner saying you have 100% cpu usage its really the gpu?
>>341593557
youre mad as hell mate
>>341593758
No you are mad as fuck anon
>>341593669
Disable afterburner and you will have lower CPU usage.
>>341593387
You cant bottleneck a 1080 gpu on 1920x1080 (maybe 4k but not 1080)
>>341593839
youre really really mad. cry more.
>>341593951
your are the one who keeps replying because he's mad as fuck
>>341593854
so basically you know you were wrong with the earlier statement
>>341594016
damn you're butthurt. stay mad poorfag.
>>341594131
>he's a proud wagecuck
lol
i'm waiting until Black Friday to get an i7, if i even get one.
i realized i also need better cooling.
the i5 is good, but it's not about max framerate, it's about constant frames, which the i7 handles better.
i put a 2k texture overhaul on FO4 and i was dipping hardcore, even though that game doesn't have the best optimization, it isn't horrible either.
the i7 would handle these huge textures way better, no argument. but it's not a regret, it just means i have to scale it back on my modding.
>>341594307
holy shit you're absolutely assblasted.
is anon that bored hes samefagging an argument with himself
>>341594369
stay mad wagecuck
>>341594454
That's why he bought 2 connections.
>>341589670
It's the gpu that can't keep up bro. Either that or you haven't overclocked/have an unstable overclock.
Or you're enabling the advanced graphics options and you dun goofed, cause those can't run well even on a 980ti
>>341594468
you're mad as hell that you can't afford some ram.
>>341594454
he's just mad as hell that he can't afford some ram.
Yes, you don't need hyper-threading for videogames.
speccy thread it is
>>341594595
your limp dick needs more ram
>>341579703
It used to be true, i have an Intel Core i5 4670 @ 3.40GHz and a GTX 770 and i can run most games at 60 fps, but i think gaming is slowly getting to a point where the load on the CPU is getting really heavy
>>341579703
Yes.
A i5 2500k is probably the best hardware purchase you could have done this decade.
>>341594675
you're mad as fuck
>>341591292
>mfw I have two monitors
>mfw lurking and playing without any worries
>mfw no issues with games with memory leak
Glorious.
>>341594774
you are mad as fuck
>>341594816
you're mad as fuck
>>341594794
Nigga, I have 2 monitors, 4GB of RAM and can do the exact same shit.
>>341594691
Why when a Q6600 from the last decade is still fast enough?
>>341594906
So do you just play minesweeper or do you do solitaire as well?
>>341594986
I just didn't fall for the 8K meme
>>341594564
No those games us gpu and cpu. If you think its not true (which you will) try googling. Its amazing how all these others are wrong as well then
>>341594816
Are you really gonna stop responding and give him the last word? Jesus christ you're submissive. Grow some fucking balls.
>>341579703
you can get by with an OC'd i3 these fucking "muh bottleneck" fags need to die
>>341595479
Oh NOW you respond when someone else is talking to you. Are you seriously scared of an anonymous poster you pussy?
>>341589638
Yes, it's not overly demanding as 80% of the screen is empty space. There were graphics distortions during warp for AMD cards though - not sure if it's been fixed (played it close to release and haven't played since). Best look that up before buying a card.
>>341595590
>someone else
anon you are being fucking pathetic at this point
please do everyone a favor and kill yourself
>>341595649
Lol you fucking wish. Why are you so submissive? I bet your daddy wasn't there. End yourself faggot.
I only have enough money to replace my ultra-destitute video card with just a normal destitute one.
Should I get a GT 730?
>>341585793
>not doing bclk oc
>falling for intel's jewery
>tfw running my 6500 @4.4 ghz
K E K
E
K
>>341589901
Jesus, do you only have 512MB of vram?
>>341595831
Get a job
>>341595921
No.
>>341595821
>im le shitposting on le anonymoose
back to 9fag with you
>>341595935
Kill yourself my man
ITT: Butthurt wagecucks
>>341596162
The only failure here is you and your sorry ass.
>>341596064
>too scared to quote anyone directly because you know you will get destroyed
>>341596267
Hey look I found one!
>>341579703
no, its not true, you only need an i3
>>341596230
You're a failure. Cry more pussy kid.
>>341596267
BTFO
>>341594564
Do you really actually think thats the answer. Wow just wow
>>341596362
Gee anon, you are hurting my feelings with your 6 y/o insults
>>341596312
except i did quote him directly. dumbass idiot.
>>341596383
thanks man
>>341596449
Are you retarded or just pretending?
Serious question
>>341596449
You're welcome man, you're free to lick my asshole whenever you want.
>tfw still using the Intel i5 2500k from my rig that I built in 2011.
I don't overclock it and it still runs pretty well. Is there even a need to upgrade?
>>341596420
Exactly, that's how sensitive you are. You're obviously bothered by me but you don't know how to express yourself and come up for yourself. Maybe if you had some balls or a dad you would be able to. Get rekt submissive faggot.
>>341596505
shut the fucking up, autistic retard.
>>341596581
nah im not a faggot unlike like. kill yourself my man.
>>341579703
depends how good your GPU is.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
>>341596764
Wow I just fucking ruined you dude, you got fucked up faggot
How does it feel to be so BTFO
>>341596684
>Get rekt
Wow you are actually underage, and here I thought you were serious for a moment. How disappointing.
>>341596603
me too, 560ti still going strong aswell
>>341596823
LMAO dont even try retarded kid i own u pussy
>>341596764
Kill yourself faggot
>>341596868
>getting this triggered by 2 words
>sperging out this hard because someone rekt you
Yeah go fuck yourself loser.
>>341597015
>someone rekt you
are you even trying anymore?
>>341596972
you kill yourself mad faggot
My setup dips to 30-40 on mostly new games. Any ideas as to what I should upgrade? I just want to run games at 60fps on high/ultra.
>>341597097
no u
>>341597071
That's all you got to say you fucking loser? You got rekt. Accept it and move on loser.
>Why go via bike if you can drive a car?
>Why take i5 when you can take i7?
>Why eating shit if you could have a normal meal?
Do you see what i am hinting at?
>>341597192
>rekt
This site is 18+
>>341597261
Then get the fuck out, butthurt kid. You can't handle losing an argument on 4chan because you get emotional. Get lost loser.
>>341597157
no, YOU kill yourself you retarded faggot
>>341595835
enjoy your ram and pci instability
>>341597423
>emotional
Look underage, this place is not for you if you plan on trying to always get the last reply. This isn't your hugbox so please fuck off.
>>341597149
cpu & gpu
>>341597506
Refer to
>>341597192
>>341597149
>Fx-8320
I've been using an i7 950 @4ghz since 2010, it's held up well.
I've upgraded from 6gb RAM to 12gb and from dual AMD6870s to a GT970 since then. I've been satisfied so far. I play everything at maxed out or near maxed out graphics settings this whole time with 60FPS average, which has been my goal all along. It helps there's been a stagnation in fidelity in recent years.
I know that doesn't answer the i5 question, but for the sake of discussion it stands as a comparison.
>>341597249
>i use i7 because 7 is a bigger number than 5 lol :D
i need an i7 for my job, and my job is not video gaems.
>intel
A SOCKET CHANGE A YEAR KEEPS THE GOY IN THE BAY
>>341597658
>complains about last reply
>is after the last reply himself
Get the fuck off 4chan you retarded, hypocritical kid. You need to be 18 to post on this site loser.
>>341597776
arent you dead yet? how have you not killed yourself yet you fucking faggot
>>341597909
>hypocritical
ironic
>using my argument because you can't think of one yourself
pathetic
>>341579703
yes if it is 5th gen onwards
What does bottleneck even mean
What should I upgrade?
>>341598003
Make me, faggot
>>341598017
a term often used in barfights. it's when you knock someone out by hitting them with a bottle to the neck.
>>341597739
>>341597786
Any ideas on what exactly to get? I'd like to stick with Nvidia cards for the shadow play. I got around 600$. Give or take.
>>341597786
>>341597149
8320 is on par with haswell i5's in actually optimised games you clueless idiots
>>341597149
get an rx 480 when it comes out and try to OC that cpu
yes yes i know the 960 is meme tier and everything but my 660ti broke and i had to make do with what was available
Is this old i7 still good tho ?
>>341598007
>1 word replies because you don't know what else to say
Yea delete yourself you submissive little bitch. You don't know how to stand up for yourself because of your failed childhood. That's probably why you're sperging out right now. Do the world a favour and kill yourself, loser.
>>341598247
980ti if you can, amazon have them on offer $599.
Best card by miles for that kind of price unless you hang on for the 1070
>>341581459
witcher is one of the rare games that will show a fat performance with an i7.
i'd assume games in the future will too.
I have an i5 4690k and it's plenty stronk after i OC.
i'd agree with OP tho, the meme is true. get any K i5 and ur set for a while.
>>341598101
cut yourself and never ever stop you mad, retarded kid.
>>341598434
Def wait for the 1070
>>341579703
I bought and assembled this rig almost 4 years ago and have had 0 need to upgrade anything. I think the most recent game I got was Ashes of the Singularity or Deserts of Kharak.
I can max both of them easily.
I'm still playing on an OC'd G3258 (4.2 GHz) and it manages all the newer titles on mid to high settings perfectly well.
>>341597851
no your job is the 9 to 9 shift at burger king you wagekekking poorfag. the only I7 you have is on your menu card, written as McDisappoint with some Unsatisfries and a nice big cup of Your Dad's Tears.
Plays everything i want at max settings, why the fuck would i want an i7, so i can just waste money?
>>341598248
>>341598434
I think I can hang on and wait for the new cards.
Rate my shitty rig /v/>windows 10
>>341598523
>realize that the picture's pretty old
>wonder what my temperatures look like now
>75 degrees
uh oh
Or is 75 still fine and I don't need to worry?
>>341579703
I still have a OC'ed 2500k and a 1080 and there's nothing I can't run perfectly on ultra. Gaming just isn't up to i7 standards yet, the extra 150 isn't worth the 2 fps gain. gpu>cpu
>>341589638
>Elite Dangerous
don't buy that shit
I saw people talk about i5 3570, i got that too.
Now how fucked am I in near future?
Is it really too outdated and is gonna bottleneck my shit up?
>>341598615
how much did you pay for that 500gb SSD?
>>341586981
>tfw i5-3470
Im fine
This is my 6 year old old pre-built I bought for $100. Is there anything I can upgrade to make it not terrible?
>>341598791
about £120 last year. why anon?
>>341597593
i'm not sure what you're trying to say
I know how to use a pc
>pci instability
jesus what is intel feeding you gullible poor things
>>341598969
build a real pc and use it as a footstool?
>>341598791
>>341599012
I got the same for €120
>>341598101
>>341598007
you guys got BTFO hard
>>341599164
thats like £95
you got cucked son.
>>341598969
Wew. Just start from scratch, maybe use the case, but I reckon that's shit too.
Most vidya devs can't into multithreading. In that regard, it's better to just get an i5 and overclock it to i7 speeds than it is to sink money into an i7.
>>341598726
um no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkE08LM4dl8
>>341599270
I got it a few weeks ago though and the other guy last year
>>341584705
I can play most modern games on that anon...
>>341599507
its £110 on amazon right now, many cucks happening.
For 1080p and 60 fps you don't need anything more than a I5.
Age hasn't slowed me down one bit. Also, RAM is a meme.
>>341579703
I have a mac I don't know how computers work
-Sent from my iPhone
>>341599986
If you're only gaming it is
>>341580118
i have an i3-4130t and it plays most games fine it has a little trouble with mmos but i think thats also graphics card
>>341598723
>EVGA
Well, you pretty much asked for this.
Next time go with Gigabyte or Asus.
>>341601332
>Next time
By the time this PC is obsolete my already wilting interest in video games will probably gone forever.
It certainly won't be where it was in 2012 when I was willing to drop a bunch of money on gaming equipment.
>>341579703
I built a rig few months ago with an i5 4690K and played MGSV with max settings and stayed at 60FPS while the CPU was at a normal temperature.
I can't speak for Witcher 3, but I wouldn't use hairworks.
>>341601939
Some games are cpu heavy witcher 3 is one
Others are batman,arma.bf4 ,hitman
They can push usage up to the max 100 easily.
>>341586981
>tfw still on my 5 year old 2500k
How can other cpus even be worth the upgrade?
>>341603338
because they work better on single cores & multi core so run faster & better...
I'm pretty happy with this setup. Runs Doom on ultra 1080p 60 fps.
I have a 2nd gen i5 and it works. The GPU is much more important.
today's PCfats only know how to input mommy's CC info into newegg. if you can't run today's games on an i3 you are just a dreadful sysadmin and don't belong in PC gaming.
i have an i5 2500k and 560 ti and can still run new games at decent settings if it's somewhat optimized
>>341587406
Can u fuck off pls
>>341604531
I will take that as you now feel like a fucking idiot for saying it in the 1st place.
why haven't you fallen for the skylake meme yet
>>341590242
Not that anon but can you just fuck off pls, no point proving so hard your point to an anonymous image board
>>341604649
Because I don't need i3
>>341604834
I wasnt the one posting a load of bollocks which you couldnt back up so now you resort to being a prick
>>341599046
how hot does it run?
be honest
My 2500k OC'd to 4.5 is still going strong. Benchmarks put newer i5s at 10~30% better depending on game, but I'm waiting till the next gens come out, then I'll probably get an i7 this time and be good for 5+ years.
>>341598575
>elementary school tier insults
be nice or your mom won't buy you nintendos for christmas. haha loser xD
>>341605846
Im not anon but hes not the loser out of the two of you.
Can someone post the chart between the ATI and Nvidia card hiearchy?
4690 master race.
>>341605295
Yea ok, go find a room and continue, we have enough of this bullshit here
>>341606669
So you think the absolute shower of shyte you posted (which was wrong by a country mile) is relevant in this thread.
Nah
Oh are you posting off your phone as well?
The cpu ad gpu must compliment each other. Cpu determines the max fps you will (you can have the best graphics card in the world and if you have a subpar cpu then you will not get the fps that gpu is capable of) so people who say cpu is not important in a gaming pc are very wrong.
What should I upgrade for overall biggest performance boost? GPU? I have my 2600k Clocked to 4,5 ghz.
Also, I'm wondering whenever getting a designated sound card would be worth it? I got a 2.1 speaker system which is nice but It goes into the audio jack on the on-board audio chipset. I heard you get significant improvement for getting a designated audio card when you only use analog audio as opposed to digital / Optical.
>>341606925
>Shower of shit i posted
Ok
Already told you i'm not that anon, i will not send another reply, this is your last reminder, pls fuck off
And yes i'm using my phone
>>341579703
I have an i5. Since the only game I play on PC is a shitty Korean dressup MMO (pic) it works fine. Got a shit ton slower after installing windows 10 though, fucking hate it.
>>341607305
Jesus go back to school
>>341579703
Poorfag here
Should I buy a 8/4gm RAM, I5, GTX920?
No bully please.
>>341608026
You tell me
Pls no animemes
>>341579703
The main difference between i5 and i7 is hyperthreading. both are quad core. Hyperthreading just offers improved effeciency.
In gaming an i5 and i7 at same clock perform similarly.
>>341608026
if you're gonna buy an nvidia card, only buy the X50 and up.
950, 960, 970 etc.
everything under x50 is not really marketed towards gaming, and more like "capable of gaming"
Hopefully the gtx950 is still in your price range.
with the gtx 1000 series just coming out, the 900 series should get cheaper soon.
>>341605556
>HURR DURR HOW HOT DOES IT RUN
>skylake
jej
>>341608026
for reference, the 750ti is slightly stronger than a ps4.
You can see that card in this image >>341609494 and use it as a reference.
>>341579703
>"You only need an i5 for gaming" is this meme true?
yes it's true, you also need a graphics card
>>341608026
hey thanks for posting a 2hu I really appreciate it
>>341579703
depends on a game, sometimes your fps will drop if there's cpu intensive stuff going on but that won't be such a big drop i guess, depends on the entire build
also, game optimisation is very important
>>341610608
Does motherboard even matter, what consequences would i suffer if i buy a non high end ASUS ROG shit tier motherboard, and a normal average price point one
Can I play DS 3 on an i3 on medium or low?
>>341579703
>Intel
Good Goy. You might as well buy a console.
I have an i5 750 with a GTX 980 and I'm not finding any serious performance issues with most games.
>>341610709
Save it, it's yours.
>>341611165
saved thanks anon
>>341611149
consoles all have amd processors
>>341611149
Depends on the price range you are going for.
Mid-high to ultra, there is literally no reason to NOT buy an intel PC. AMD's recent offerings are just not as well priced, and considering the power consumption, not worth it.
I don't know about underneath it though.
That being said, a broadwell or haswell i5 will work splendidly for years to come I would imagine. I use an AMD 8350, and i can underclock it to 60 percent performance and not really take a hit in most vidya i play. (Unless I am of course doing some sick multitasking).
Put the money into a nicer bidya card.
>>341611073
Depends on which processor, but I would imagine so.
>he fell for the Intel meme
>>341579703
Overclocked 2500k @4.2 Ghz (can actually even do @4.4 Ghz but what's the point really) since '11 and haven't had any problems.
>>341611019
Not him, but if you plan on overclocking then cheaper motherboards will have fewer VRMs and will not always deliver "clean" power to your processor.
I made this mistake when I got a cheap MSI motherboard + an i5-6600k, I can't even go beyond 4.1Ghz (and this is with temps not reaching 75c).
Now it's entirely possible that I lost the silicon lottery, but since I don't know anyone with a Z170 motherboard to test it I can't say so for sure.
What's the most cost effective CPU for a GTX 970?
Preferably nothing hyper top tier, just enough to not bottleneck the GPU
I have an fx8300 with a good cooler/temps but im afraid to OC
what do
>>341612391
literally some AMD 6 or 8 core will do, preferably with some OC
>>341612645
Buy an Xbox One
>>341612756
>xbox one
But why ps4 exclusives are better
>>341612749
Not intel? You sure?
>>341579703
The video card is more important than that
>>341612756
Fuck off Hajeed.
>>341612391
depends on what cpu socket your current motherboard has. Or the one you're getting if you don't have one.
If it's a 1155 socket, then an i5 2500k will do.
it was cheap and powerful years ago, and it still is. Should be even cheaper now.
Though I think pretty much any i5 will be fine
My rule for upgrades:
If at least _5_ games I am playing show struggles in mid-tier settings, I'll upgrade whatever is causing the bottleneck within a year. (Usually waiting for sales)
Sometimes 2 if planning major upgrade.
Same goes with consoles, never buy a console unless there are at least 5 exclusives within 2 years. I add an extra year since devs are usually having to make new engines.
Gonna get a RX 480 later on.
Getting a GTX 950 with an I5 processor good idea? Will it live for 3 years?
>>341587406
It probably does because W3 is very unoptimized.
How does it feel knowing you scrubs will never have my godly computer and internet?
>>341614736
>GTX 950
Just get a RX 480.
>>341579703
I have an i5laptopand it runs anything up to last gen at 60fps max setting, and current gen stuff at 30 fps with medium-high settings.
So if I OC my CPU, what temperatures should I expect with a basic aftermarket cooler?
I run at 20C idle, 30-40 C load right now not overclocked. If I push it from 3,5 to 4,2 those temperatures become 20-30C idle, 60C under load. (In the summer it can get to 70C because it just gets hot as fuck here sometimes).
Is that fine? I don't know that much about overclocking, I do have a K CPU (it is a bit old. i5 6600K).
>>341614736
It will be somewhere between a ps4 and a ps neo.
So if you don't aim to crank everything to max,, then it will live as long as this gens consoles
but like this guy said >>341615178
there's an upcoming card that's suppose to be dirt cheap but as strong as a gtx 980 soon.
However people are torn on that subject since it appears to be a multi gpu.
I got a Pentium k and a gt740.
I can play whatever I want really.
I don't usually touch AAA
>>341615650
The thing is I don't wanna spend more than 1.5k on a desktop, assuming my old monitor broke as well so i'm gonna need a new one
>>341615517
Look up your CPU model and see what temperatures are safe for yourself.
>>341615517
>it is a bit old
>i5 6600K
How is a current gen CPU old?
>>341607197
GPU, absolutely. Personally I'll be going with a 480 though if you live in a country that has discounts for older gen cards (which is unlikely), you can think about getting a 980ti or the 10xx series. Alternatively consider a 390(x), they're also good price/performance candidates... however if your monitor doesn't support Freesync (which I suspect is the case, as you have an Nvidia GPU), your options are limited.
I honestly don't know how you can aim for 120fps with your current card unless you strictly play CS:GO or UT/Quake.
What sort of performance can I expect with a i5 6600k and a RX 480?
>>341582746
What PSU do you have inside that build?
>>341579703
w10 memes
>>341616485
I'm saying that if you wait you could probably get a significantly stronger card (rx 480) for similar price of an gtx 950.
It wouldn't cost you anything more but some of your time. If you want to wait until it's release is your call though.
The gtx 950 fine though if you need a gpu now. It's stronger than the current consoles, but not stronger than their upcoming upgraded versions.
>>341617959
a bit better than 6600k with 390
i got i5 3470 thinking about upgrading to the new amd meme card should i worry about bottleneck?
>>341618509
yes, get the i7 good goyim
>>341617863
>I honestly don't know how you can aim for 120fps with your current card unless you strictly play CS:GO or UT/Quake.
I can't go for 120 fps.. I got this monitor on sale so though it would be nice to see how 120hz monitor is, but I never achieve that high fps in-game. So it was a waste, well almost. Discount put this screen at the same price as a normal 60hz screen.
Appreciate the info. Though Free-sync, that's just a GPU placed on a Monitor, right? So I would need free-sync monitor to get that? Do I 'Need' Free-sync if I go for AMD? The 480 is looking nice, but I assume I would need CrossFire to get 120 fps in the latests games though.
>>341618621
i know you people love to meme but im genuinely interested in a real answer
>>341579703
its not even a meme
i5's and i7's are two different processors that have two different markets
>>341618803
also my build
>>341618495
but I don't know the performance of that either
>>341611536
AMD doesn't compete for shit anymore
they haven't released a desktop high performance processor since 2012
>>341579703
i5 is usually good enough for low/medium settings
i7 is a lot better for obvious reasons
>>341618696
>Though Free-sync, that's just a GPU placed on a Monitor, right? So I would need free-sync monitor to get that?
Yes you need a Free sync monitor to use it but its not worth it. Same could be said for g-sync.
If you think about crossfire, just wait for the 490 that hopefully will come out. It's not guaranteed that every game you want to play will be optimized for crossfire. You need profiles for that unfortunately.
>>341618509
We love memes, but seriously. I the game is CPU intensive like City Skylines or GTAV you will performance and could be worry some but other than that you *should* be fine.
>>341618967
I have 6600K with 390, get Solid 60fps on ultra in Witcher 3, 40~ fps maxed out GTA V. So add a few FPS and you should be great, especially for DX12 games
>>341619051
>i5 is usually good enough for low/medium settings
I'm >>341618907
and I went from an i5-4690k to an i7-4790k you see there. The performance is extremely similar. Theres only a few games that actually benefited from my i7 upgrade and other than that the only other thing I do better is encode, decompress, encrypt and render videos and shit.
>>341579703
no, you only need a pentium dual core for gaming
>>341619051
You don't know what you're talking about.
>>341579703
I have an i7 3770k in one rig and an i5 3750k in my second PC. No real advantage in gaming as most PC titles are GPU intensive. When it comes to OC'ing and CPU activities like encoding video, i7 all the way.
>>341579703
Yes. You can run a Skylake i5 and run games better than someone with an older i7. "i5" is not a direct indicator of a CPUs actual processing power compared to "i7".
This is all assuming you're not trying to run shit at 4k. Then you might actually benefit from a modern i7.
I play on a i3 4170
I feel pleb tier but it works for most the games I care about
Hardware threads on /v/ always give me a good laugh
>>341620103
better than /g/
between nvidia copy pasta, amd drones, intel shills, cunts crying that their x window broke because of crimson drivers and russian link shit flinging
>>341579703
I have a new gtx 960 and a ~4 year old i5 and I can play gta5 1920x1080 with everything maxed but the texture resolution at 60+ fps.
>>341579703
i recently checked if its worth for me to upgrad from my i5 3570k @ 4.5ghz to an i7 6700k, at same overlock the i7 is in some games even worse than mine and in some games you have about 3fps more with the i7... so i think i stick a little longer with muh good 'ol 3570k
