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Which timeline is it in?
There are literally Koroks you dumb idiot shitpile.
Koroks and reference to an ancient sea suggest it may be in the adult timeline with Wind Waker, but we really don't have enough information to say quite yet.
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>>341384065
deepest lore
>>341383606
It looks to me that its directly post skyward sword but im an idiot when it comes to theses things so i really have no clue.
>>341383915
Koroks can easily be waved off or explained
As for the Great Sea, where was that referenced? I didn't see the whole treehouse.
>>341384551
Literally all Zelda games are post Skyward Sword.
It's hard to say.
Hyrule is fucked, the only thing we see still remotely in tact is the Temple of Time, But the Temple of Time was even MORE fucked in Twilight Princess, but the rest of Hyrule is fine.
This series timeline is fucked. I partly hope this is a reboot that throws out all the lore, and only keeps the stuff that works. We need a fresh start.
I'd say post windwaker, many years after the ocean drained when Ganon was defeated
>>341385038
An item called rock salt, the description says it came from an ancient sea.
>>341383606
The hair and the master sword being in the forest makes me think it is in the OoT Link dying timeline. I wouldn't be shocked if this is actually a reboot of the first LoZ where Ganon is revived, and Link too is resurrected.
>>341383606
This one
Alternate timeline where Ganondorf did wish for Hyrule return to its former glory in Wind Waker. Link is awakened by the King of Red Lions some time into Ganondorf's rule.
>>341383606
Adult, long after Wind Waker
So we all agree that the Old Man is Ganondorf right?
it's obviously the Decline of Hyrule and the Last Hero timeline. We're seeing a return of the original Link from the first NES Zeldas. The resurrection and original hairstyle, and carrying gear is a dead giveaway. Koroks are there because that's what all Kokiri's eventually become anyways.
>>341386186
It's the king
>>341386074
>where Ganondorf did wish for Hyrule return to its former glory in Wind Waker
What was he going to wish for in the game?
>>341386186
Would be cool. He seems to look like a Gerudo.
>>341386186
He could also be a King of Hyrule
>>341386186
looks like the king from wind waker to me
>>341386390
He's brown and those clothes are certainly Ganondorf colors.
So, thoughts on if this Link will be one of the previous ones? Shrine of Resurrection really did seem to imply that.
there is no timeline its just a bunch of games
seems to be set in hyrule from WW after the ocean drained, probably many years after ST
>>341385938
But there was an ancient sea in Skyward Sword as well.
In fact, I think it was even named the ancient sea.
>>341386813
I agree.
somewhere around Legend of Zelda (NES)
>>341386395
For the sea to reside so Hyrule wouldn't be flooded for him to rule it.
It's Wind Waker failure timeline where Ganondorf succeeded in raising the kingdom. This is him, BTW. Treehouse interns already spoiled that he is actually critical, not just one of many random archetypal NPCs, and that you trade in Spirit Orbs from Temples to him, for new equipment. So that's the big twist of the game, there. You spend most of the game unwittingly betraying yourself and empowering your nemesis.
>>341386074
>Nintendo creates "downfall timeline" where Link fails to defeat Ganon in OOT
>This means that practically every game could have a timeline where Link doesn't defeat the villain
I never realized this before, but that triple timeline thing potentially fucked the timeline up really badly.
That being said, I was actually sad that Ganondorf's wish didn't come true and Hyrule was raised from the sea for us to explore post game. I'd love to see an alternate wind waker future.
>>341387569
I'm sure everyone is over analyzing it, but his hands are covered too to possibly hide his Triforce mark.
>>341388042
See >>341387569
Same robe colors and he grabs his cane in the same way as how Modern Ganondorf grabs his sword.
>>341388042
Okay this might be it.
>>341386990
Its the hero spoken about in the intro cutscene to windwaker, the one that never returned.
The game is post windwaker, assuming Ganon defeated the hero of winds in the final battle.
>>341386186
>fucking huge
>same facial structure
>Brown/Grey/Olive green skin
Does this guy give Link the blue tunic with the Gerudo arm bands? Because that would clinch it for me.
But it almost seems too obvious, plus the whole fact that we saw Ganon the beat floating around the castle... unless this is some world where Ganondorf the man and Ganondorf the beast split up like some kind of Majiin Buu situation.
>>341387540
There was the Sand Sea.
>>341386327
>that Link
A man, a plan, his gear, and a total lack of pants.
>>341388386
I'm pretty sure he got the clothes on his own
But, I remember the old man giving him a tunic for snow environments
I think it's a situation where Old Man Ganondorf is helping Link so he can get himself to the Triforce, then double cross him
>>341387163
Look, I think the timeline is bullshit and the series was more fun and mysterious before Hyrule Historia too, but the Timeline exists now, and we have to accept it.I still choose to ignore that Hero of Time became the Skellington guy in TP tho
What if Ganondorf and The King fused together after being drowned?
>>341383606
It's in the child timeline. they say it somewhere in that long as stream.
>>341388386
The creators are Japanese, if a twist seems too obvious it's always the outcome.
>>341388098
But literally all of the Triforce bearers have their hands covered in most of the games, and the triforce shines through any coverings.
>>341388731
But now we have pants!
>>341389185
Pants are optional
>>341388048
>This means that practically every game could have a timeline where Link doesn't defeat the villain
>I never realized this before, but that triple timeline thing potentially fucked the timeline up really badly
it doesnt fuck the time line because they arent making games that branch off of these, and this only happens because there was actual time travel in OoT
here's the full map. is it supposed to be the full area or are parts of the map negative space?
>>341389343
>all the treehouse girls were getting their panties wet over shirtless link
This is why Nintendo refuses to change his gender
>>341384551
>>341383606
>>341383816
It's centuries after Twilight Princess.
>>341389467
At least one of the corners is water. I'm guessing the bottom left is a wall you can't pass.
maybe they refused to show towns because it would spoil too much about which era the game takes place in. We could have seen Kakariko or castle town ruins
>>341383606
The last. The tentacle robots fucking wrecked Hyrule with their alienoid, futuristic technology. That's why there are few to none humans around.
Thankfully Link was preserved with Sheikah science to save the world.
It's the fucking post-destruction of Hyrule future. Look at the Master Sword, even THAT shit's been resting for a long time.
Okay, this may be autistic as fuck but it really bothers me that Link isn't wearing the green tunic and hat. I know it's Link, I know it's a Zelda game, and I know they're going for something "different" with this one. But you gotta keep the tunic. I dunno, does this bother anyone else or does it not matter?
>>341390053
It's obvious he'll get it. Especially with clothing options.
The question is "will he be gifted it, will he buy it as common clothes, or will the gods pop it on him like in Twilight Princess."
>>341389994
>That's why there are few to none humans around.
No, that's because the E3 demo didn't include any locations with villages or towns. Nice autistic head canon though
>>341390053
i'm sure the green will come back for some critical moment in the plot.
>right before the final boss fight
>sages or whatever give you green tunic
>>341390173
YFW its locked to an amiibo
>>341390385
You mean the ones I own?
High-frequency Blade Master Sword when
>>341390520
Upgrade master sword with current technology
>its a fucking lightsaberYFW its something like this
>>341390053
I'm assuming it'll be one of the best non-special armor sets in the game. Given that there are clothing options it's silly to think the classic tunic won't be included.
>>341390684
A hybrid between the Master Sword and the Monado 1 would be the coolest shit imaginable
>>341390274
I mean, I'm sure it'll be something dumb like that. I don't doubt for a second he'll get it at some point. By why bother selling up the fact he doesn't start of with his clothes? It's just seems like an odd decision is all.
>>341390684
Now THAT'S an amiibo item. Scan any non-"supported" Smash amiibo and get a 5-swing beam saber.
>>341390965
Because there's a LOT more to wear in BotW than any other Zelda to date, and the Hero's Tunic presumably won't show up until relatively late in the game
>>341389385
>I'm just a strange old man, that's all.
Confirmed for someone important at least.
>>341383606
Many many years after Wind Waker. The great sea no longer exists.
>>341389385
Their only similarity is the beard.
He's more likely to be Ganondorf, considering his clothes colors and his dark brown skin.
>>341388731
Can't wait to find the green tunic and wear no pants to go with it just like best Link.
>>341383606
>shrine of resurrection
>thinking it's in any timeline other than the hero is defeated timeline
It's fun when there are references to past games, but the Hyrule Historia timeline thing was only to appease literal-minded western fans. Miyamoto even said the true chronology is secret. Anyway, every Zelda game is basically in a unique universe/timeline all its own, even the direct sequels. There's no consistency because Zelda doesn't take itself that seriously. Each legend is its own thing.
>>341385469
>yfw they pulla Turn A Gundam and all of the Zelda timelines merge into a DARK HISTORY
>>341392192
And the nose and the eyebrows.
>>341389406
Yeah, but the way Ocarina of Time did it would only explain two timelines.
That third timeline is a multiverse tier ass pull that makes no sense. They just wanted a place to banish the classic games without outright retconning them out of canon.
>>341383606
The rusted Master Sword screams Wind Waker sequel.
>>341389891
We probably did see Kakariko and castle town ruins considering that there were signs of formar buildings around the temple of time area, they were probably just too fucked to be recognizable.
Then again, the Temple of Time seems to change location in Twilight Princess, so who knows.
>>341392504
>They just wanted a place to banish the classic games without outright retconning them out of canon.
>the next new game was a sequel to that timeline
>>341388031
I really like that idea
Dont know f its true or not
>>341392662
Why would the MS be back in its place? Its currently implanted in Dorf's head.
>>341392192
His skin color doesn't discount Daphnes, if he's roaming out in the sun all the time. A lot of white people get darker in old age. Plus Ganon is green.
>pretending zelda actually has a storyline
This meme again?
>>341386186
He's the "It's dangerous to go alone! Take this." old man.
>>341393050
The seal could have weakened, and he then placed the sword somewhere else
>>341390385
I'd be very okay with the Smash Bros amiibo unlocking costumes for Link.
>TP tunic for Link
>more old school NES colored/cartoony looking tunic for toon link
>Plate armor and a cape for Ganondorf
>Sheika Ninja suit for Shiek
>Royal knight outfit for Zeldaor a beautiful dress
I mean, I've no doubt a green Tunic and cap will be found in the game somewhere, probably with it's own unique design. But the Smash Amiibo could unlock replicas of past outfits, or just get you the tunic early or something.
>>341386186
Can't be, Triforce bearers reveal each other when they are close to each other. Ganondorf discovered Tetra and Sheik was Zelda as soon as he got close to them. Ganon's or Link's triforce piece would light up as soon as they got close to each other. And I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that Ganon was locked in Hyrule Castle. Not to mention he would murder you right there
>>341393403
So Dorf pulled a sword from his head and put it back in its place? I don't think Evil can touch it. WW Dorf is fucked.
>>341392447
>It's fun when there are references to past games, but the Hyrule Historia timeline thing was only to appease literal-minded western fans. Miyamoto even said the true chronology is secret
Source please.
Not a timeline fag, I actually would love for Hyrule Historia to be confirmed for illegitimate.
>>341393427
What if Link doesn't have his triforce piece yet?
>>341393427
WW Dorf was pretty docile.
>>341393594
He already pulled a sword from his chest. This is a tuesday for him.
>tfw found out there hasn't be a canon console Zelda since 1991
>>341393775
That was that magic sword in TP, right? He can't touch the Master Sword.
>>341393683
It's just some shit they threw together to try to compete with other games like Skyrim that actually had plots that weren't "the evil man conquered the land and kidnapped the pretty princess".
>>341393050
Because he pulled it out himself after he was reincarnated.
When it's rusted and useless, it's no problem for him to touch it. He's a pretty big nostalgiafag, so I could see him putting things back where they belong for sentimental reasons.
>>341386813
old people are generally depicted as brown in japan
>>341387540
Cyclical time
Woah
>>341393939
I asked for a source, not your hot opinions.
>>341393943
Fuck, I can imagine this happening.
>>341393979
the last thing that happened in the timeline is the first thing that happened in the timeline. FRIENDS it is time for Reddit to know.
i wonder if its gonna be arrow of light or if they are gonna bring back silver arrows
>>341393185
You can throw an autistic shitfit all you want but Hyrule Historia is canon. Keep denying it if you want but some of us have moved past it.
if this is WW timeline, isnt the master sword stuck inside stone-ganondorf?
>>341394861
>The last thing ganondorf did was transform his body into a pedestal.
>>341386001
I'd actually enjoy that.
>>341385469
>YFW they pull a Dark Souls and BoTW's Hyrule is now essentially Lordran via timey-wimey shennigans thanks to Cataclysm Ganon fucking up the space-time continuum or whatever
I really want WW Ganondorf to mentor a new Link. I think the old man's identity can go either way but Ganon would definitely be the most interesting choice here.
>>341394861
It Isn't WW timeline. it's TP timeline.
>>341394839
Canon? Sure, idc. But you can't deny they didn't give a fuck about story until a bunch of manchildren whined about it and then they came up with this sloppy "timeline" bullshit because it's the only way they could ever make all the games fit into a semi-coherent plot.
And now you're all dissecting it as if anyone at Nintendo cares, or it matters. Who's autistic again?
>>341392489
Ganon also has a jew nose and huge eyebrows.
>>341393132
WW ganon wasn't green though.
I'm not discounting Daphnes either, but the way he holds his cane and his dark clothes, plus brown skin, reminds me more of Ganondorf.
Plus Daphnes doesn't look like he wanted to stick around after finally flooding Hyrule, while Ganondorf turned into a statue that could very well be dispelled.
>>341385469
It's wind waker sequel. The gods just decided to get rid of all the ocean because Ganon was defeated.
>>341393826
>implying
Every game is canon sans spin offs like Crossbow Training or the CDI games. That's the point of having alternate timelines.
In fact, OoT is pretty much THE most important game to the Zelda lore and setting, so calling it non-canon is ridiculous.
Everything seems to point to Wind Waker timeline, or possibly Defeated Hero timeline.
Next question is whether this Link is the same as a previous one. I like the theory that the game is a Zelda 1 reboot and that this Link is a resurrected OoT Link in the Defeat timeline.
>>341395578
Theory making is fun, fuck you.
If its after WW, that also explains why the Master Sword is rusty, because its been underwater for so long. But how does it go from Ganons head to the pedestal thing we saw? And what about Fi? Please tell me we get a rusted Fi that glitches out while she talks to you
>>341393979
>>341394386
If this is true of all three timelines then my brain hurts.
>>341388031
That would be great. Always wondered what would happen if Ganon succeeded in TWW.
>>341386186
>>341389385
It's either Ganondorf or the King of Hyrule, and this Link is one from a previous game.
>>341389705
Any proof? Besides, that game was Four Swords Adventures.
>>341386186
I'm convinced he is Ganon.
>>341383606
My theory is that it takes place on the adult timeline a long time after Wind Waker.
I think that the machines (Guardians) where created during the "age without the Hero" to protect the sacred realm from a resurrected Ganon.
So now they're just remnants of that age. and what's left is a ruined and overgrown world taken over by nature after the water "went away" (don't know how).
Also this is supported by the presence of the Koroks, and the role they play. during Wind Waker they are a recognizable tribe. Now they're hiding within nature around suspicious spaces (ie. faerie circles) and have been reduced to folklore.
>>341395942
>area where Link awakens is called Shrine of Resurrection
>Link has been asleep for 100 years
>the same amount of time that's between OoT and WW
Tinfoil hat time. This is actually a new timeline and it can be seen as an alternate WW. A timeline where instead of flooding the world, the Gods put OoT Link into stasis for 100 years.
Koroks at least discard the failure timeline.
But the changes on TP HD suggest there's some timeline fuckery going on in this game.
>>341389467
It feels...too small. I haven't played TP or SS but i heard the TP map was massive, how does this one compare?
>>341396050
There's no companion, and skyward sword explained that Fi would never wake up again as it's fused with the master sword.
As for the pedestal, it could be they built it around his body.
Or maybe its ganondorf without the demise curse so now he is less of a dick
>>341386186
I like the clothing design in this game
>>341396542
>But the changes on TP HD suggest there's some timeline fuckery going on in this game.
what changes?
>>341396050
No Companion on BotW
(confirmed in the treehouse i think)
I missed making Zelda Theories, I'm glad we'll have a couple of months to make up stupid shit and have fun before the canon is set again.
>>341396542
TP HD had changes?
What happened to it?
>>341396536
It's scary that images Dobson made to strawman are possibly going to be real.
>>341385469
The time travel/cycle/reincarnation plot line was already built upon games that weren't actually designed to be connected, it's loose enough that they have the freedom to do practically anything.
>>341395619
>WW ganon wasn't green though.
Ganondorf's skin, in every game he's been in, is a weird anomaly, where it changes color, and can look either green, grey, or brown. Shit's inconsistent.
>>341389406
Dude, retarded outlets are making a lot of assumptions.
They pinned far off to the horizon with no cities on sight and it went all the way into another section of the map.
That's not the whole map.
>>341396603
>Too small
Nigguh
>>341392482
Just as long as they don't go full comics and do Crisis on Multiple Timelines
>>341396450
they said in the stream. the asian lady with the skirt. i don't intend to rewatch the entire thing to find 5 seconds of dialog.
>>341396625
Well it doesn't have to be a companion, she could just be a side character
Also
>ganons body is under the pedestal
>after you pull out the master sword he comes back to life and bursts out of the ground for a boss fight
>>341396450
Do you have the edited one? I think I deleted off of my drive.
>>341396930
I know that it changes between games, I'm just saying that WW in particular wasn't green.
>>341383606
The timeline was a mistake
>>341396625
It could have been ripped out of his head, which unleashed a mindless Ganon (like the Oracle games) upon the "new" Hyrule found in Zelda: Spirit Tracks. That would explain why Hyrule's absolutely fucked in Breath of the Wild
>>341396050
It's not in WW timeline
Fi dies when she gets sealed she slowly fades away over time inside the sword.
>>341392192
>his clothes colors and his dark brown skin.
That's because he's taking the role of Kaepora Gaebora, mentioned by Treehouse.
Not Ganon.
>>341396972
Until i see it, I can't really believe it.
>>341383606
nigga fuck yo timeline
this legend of zelda is going to be the best legend of zelda game ever. it's going to save humanity and impeach trump if he gets elected. if hillary gets elected, she'll get impeached and bernie will become president. mark my motherfucking words, screencap this
>>341397201
>It's not in WW timeline
>Koroks
>Rock Salt nowhere near the sea or desert
>Rusty Master Sword
>Suspicious old man that looks like Daphnes/Ganondorf
>>341388042
They're near identical and people will still argue with you.
>>341396050
>But how does it go from Ganons head to the pedestal thing we saw?
Ganondorf's a nostalgia fag and wants to put things back in their proper place. Either that, or he figures the hero will need to be able to find the master sword to progress, and Ganondorf is setting the hero up once again.
>And what about Fi?
Her spirit subsided after Skyward Sword. That's why she doesn't speak in any other Zelda games with the MS. And rest in fucking pieces, she was the worst.
>Please tell me we get a rusted Fi that glitches out while she talks to you
Sounds edgy.
Its a direct sequel to The Legend Of Zelda (NES)
>>341389343
>Link can stand in high snowy mountains while on briefs as long as he has a couple peppers
>He can cut logs with a huge ass axe and make bonfires
MANLY AS FUCK
How convenient if it's a Wind Waker sequel since that is the only Zelda I have played.
>>341397289
That's boring.
I'll think he's Ganondorf until proven otherwise, heck, it would be interesting is he came back as a wise old man that guides Link.
>>341397345
I think you mean it will make Trump the last president of the US, and the first God Emperor of Mankind.
Bill mentioned a timeskip when starting the game, mentioning how the guardians were old and different to the ones in the first trailer.
But the game starts where the E3 demo does, right?
This means we're traveling back to the past?
>>341397496
>(You)
>>341389473
god i cringed so hard at this part
>>341397602
Yes nigger that's exactly what I meant.
You can't stump 'em!
>>341397391
koroks can literally be in any timeline
a rusty sword can be in any timeline
Ganon and Daphnes can be in any timeline.
>>341383606
Given the bridge, After TP
>>341397546
But Zelda 2 is a direct sequel to Zelda 1 and in Zelda 2 people come out of their caves and have rebuilt towns.
>>341397289
>implying they'd spoil the twist of the new game in the first gameplay reveal.
>>341397603
Makes sense, considering the trend of two worlds in many Zelda games
>>341396542
>Koroks at least discard the failure timeline
How?
Koroks are the true forms of the Kokkiri, the forms they take when they feel no need to hide themselves from humans.
If anything, the "decline" timeline, where humans become pretty scarce, make it even more likely that the Kokkiri could drop the human act and revert back to Koroks.
>>341397513
dude, Fi was the only good part of Skyward Sword
>>341393979
You are correct. Time is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round.
>>341392192
His skin and wide nose are identical, dumb ganonposter.
We've already SEEN Ganon flying over Hyrule castle.
>>341397749
>koroks can literally be in any timeline
Really? Why have they only ever appeared in Wind Waker then?
>>341397835
>Koroks are the true forms of the Kokkiri
What? No, Koroks are just how they are in WW because that's how the Great Deku Tree needed them to be.
Just like the Zora evolved into the Rito.
>>341397835
>Koroks are the true forms of the Kokkiri
[citation needed]
>>341396967
Isn't that basically Hyrule Warriors?I actually want more Zelda self crossover. Where's my Zelda fighting game?
>>341398042
Snarky faggot
You honestly sound like you have a dick in your mouth 24/7
>>341397905
Master, I detect a 99.999 percent chance that you are a huge faggot, with a .001 margin of error.
Also your battery is low.
>>341397880
>ancient sea
that also supports the 100s of years after Wind Waker idea >>341396525
>>341397880
Looks like this is after WW then, possibly in Old Hyrule.
Guys, do we know what happens when you die? Are you just resurrected at the exact point you went belly up, or do you start in the Chamber of Resurrection?
>>341398018
we've seen Ganon's energy, but there are screens of Ganon himself in the game?
>>341398158
I was being genuine, I'm asking you for clarification. No snark whatsoever.
>>341397072
I don't mean he changes between games, I mean he changes in the very games he's in.
Ganondorf seemed particularly green in Wind Waker to me, especially in the last battle.
>>341398105
But the Zora were forced to evolve into Rito by the Gods to make sure no one rediscovers Hyrule.
>>341398018
Ganondorf also has brown skin and a jew nose, you dumb Daphnesposter. He could be either of them.
>That shadow
>Ganon
>>341388048
it's simpler than you're making it. there is always a triple timeline - one for each triforce piece, one for each goddess. they ALWAYS split, when the three bearers meet.
>>341398239
Are we even surprised, with Aonuma's Wind Waker bias?
>>341385469
Isn't the timeline really broken anyway? Like, it's not a direct timeline, I thought, due to different realms and time travel fuckery.
>>341396785
>>341396706
A bunch of new imagery from all timelines on walls and Ganon's armor.
>>341393427
>And I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that Ganon was locked in Hyrule Castle. Not to mention he would murder you right there
This, they showed the evil swirling around Hyrule Castle and it had Ganon's pig face
Ganon's spirit wouldn't be separate from his body
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/you-can-skip-all-of-breath-of-the-wilds-story-and-go-to-the-final-boss-from
lolwut
>>341397787
That's what I was thinking
>>341396706
>>341396785
he might be talking about the rito depicted in some of the new textures
>>341398283
Man, WW Ganon was alright. I would have sided with him given the option.
>>341398105
>Just like the Zora evolved into the Rito.
>The world is flooding, lets turn the fish people into birds so they can survive in a world with more water
Pretty sure the zora turns into birds so they couldnt swim to Hyrule
>"Users may not actually get the full story depending on how they play this game and how they strategize and solve puzzles," producer Eiji Aonuma told Polygon. "Users are able to go to the very end goal without revealing why Link woke up the way he did and where he did. Whether you want to reveal the storyline and find out why Link woke up, or you want to just go straight to the goal, that's an option totally up to the user."
>When asked, Aonuma confirmed that a player could go directly to the final boss of the game from its opening moments if they wanted. However, he also stressed that he didn't view this as an ideal way to play.
>>341398321
Yeah, but SS is at the very start anyway. OoT is when the hijinks begin.
Reminder the internal codename of this game is U-King.
Wind Waker's was King.
>>341398185
kek
I admit it, the only reason I liked her is because I thought she was hot
Seriously, you have to give some credit to nintendo for the stockings
>>341392482
fucking shingo posters
>>341397824
Remember how the original concept of A Link to the Past would feature a high tech futuristic world and robots?
>>341396542
>But the changes on TP HD suggest there's some timeline fuckery going on in this game.
Which changes, friend?
>>341398461
>Aonuma confirmed that a player could go directly to the final boss of the game from its opening moments if they wanted.
>>341398289
Yeah, just like the Kokiri evolved into the Koroks to make sure they could spread the seeds of the Great Tree, that's why I said they were just like them.
Unrelated to this, I always thought the ALttP timeline (now called failure timeline) came after WW because of how the Oracle games also had Great Trees and how Labrynna's water levels increased the further you went into the past.
I'm pretty sure the old man is just suppsoed to reminiscent of Mr. "It's dangerous to go alone".
>>341398269
pls respond ;_;
My dad works at nintendo and he says there will be an option to play as a girl. He's a habitual liar, though.
What if this Link is the original Link, somehow resurrected and returned to life after thousands of years to defend the land which for one reason or another could not produce a new incarnation of the hero?
A Link already hardened by the trials of war who gave up his life to save the people of Hylia, now returned to a wild, idylic and untamed land which he must now save.
>>341398712
That's what they want you to think, and this line >>341388031
is the most red flag-inducing thing in the world.
>>341397905
Waifufag please go.
>>341398461
sounds neat, im down.
>>341398461
>Aonuma confirmed that a player could go directly to the final boss of the game from its opening moments if they wanted
I wish more games did shit like this.
You could get an idea of just how hard the endgame will be, prepare yourself accordingly, and come back at a later time. Or you can challenge yourself to beat the game with minimal equipment.
>>341396603
You don't get the sense of scale from just that map.
That center region was the entirety of the demo, and the demo was absolutely massive.
They said people on the show floor wouldn't even have time to explore it all.
>>341398271
Listen nigger, you're a fucking gook and you sympathize with kikes. Kill yourself immediately or else I will personally choke your mother with my cock until she gags and I cum down her throat. Do I make myself fucking clear?
>>341398387
That's awesome as fuck.
Make a thread and see how it gets shitposted to death.
>>341398785
Ok, I laughed
>>341398801
inb4 somebody tries to say Skyward Sword Link is the original Link.
WHO GIVES
A SHIT
>9 fucking months.
>>341398461
Holy shit my dick.
Beth won't give us a good TES game after Morrowind but I'll take this.
>>341398938
>That center region was the entirety of the demo
The demo did'nt even cover all the Plateau.
>>341398989
Anon, we all read Hyrule Historia.
>>341398387
Now I can't decide wether my first playthrough will be a shirtless vegetarian run, or just a Ganon rush.
>>341398456
The point I was trying to make wasn't if they evolved naturally or not, it was that the gods (in their case Jabu Jabu or whatever he was called in WW) made them change just like The Great Deku Tree made Kokiri change into Koroks (and it wasn't that Koroks were the "true form" of the Kokiri, that's dumb).
>>341399036
>Making this post
>In a thread literally full of people giving a shit
>When there are at least ten videos on youtube theorizing on the timeline placement
>When Timeline discussions make up like half of the Zelda threads on /v/
>>341389994
I didn't even know it COULD rust, the damn thing survives just about everything, how the hell can you even make it rust, let alone CHIPPED
>>341393826
Skyward Sword is before the timeline split, pure canon.
>>341398650
Yeah, actually
>>341399036
Apparently a lot of people. There's not much else to talk about in a puzzle adventure game before it's released.
>>341398158
They have only been in the Wind Waker and BotW. Now there are 9 games after WW and the only one to show them again is BotW. Faggot
Aonuma confirmed the game is related to TP though, he said you would be playing BotW and suddenly get an Aha! moment from TP.
It has to be on the same timeline.
>>341399042
>we'll be getting more gameplay in E3 2017
>Nintendo Directs will drop various snippets of info
>all the way until Holiday Season '17
>>341398461
>Hylian Heat speedrun
>>341398461
> "Either they're a really good gamer, or they could be somebody that's a little bit crazy."
>mfw it ends up being literally just walking up to the old man and killing him with the shitty weapons in the local area.
>only maniacs are capable of this feat when he unleashes his true power
>>341399269
Well spending hundreds of years underwater and then being gradually exposed to open air would do it.
>>341399270
He's not talking about their timeline placement, anon.
He's just a dumb shitposter.
>>341399349
And now TP is suddenly showing shit from WW. Who he fuck knows anymore.
>>341398461
JUST FUCK MY WALLET UP SENPAI
>>341398305
He's been trying to make a home console Wind Waker sequel for 14 years.
I bet this is it.
Which game is more important to the Zelda Lore: Ocarina of Time or Skyward Sword?
>>341388835
Why? You don't even have to consider Hyrule Historia, it's heavily implied that it is the Hero of Time in Twilight Princess. Everyone knew it was before Hyrule Historia even released.
>>341399349
Could have switched focus sometime during development.
>>341398387
Half hour speed runs here we come.
>>341399515
The lore hinges on Ocarina of Time, and Skyward Sword is mostly just for retcons.
It can only take place in the very distant future to wind waker, considering it has koroks and takes place on land.
>>341399616
>half hour
If we can get za warudo bolder launching very early, we might be able to go full Tao Bai Bai on Ganon and be there in a few seconds.
>>341398461
My reaction to this game was pretty lukewarm, but the more i hear from it, the harder my erection gets.
>Aounuma says you can beat the game right away at the beginning without going through any of the story if you're good enough
Oh God this is going to Xenoblade X: Zelda edition isn't it?
>>341386186
>that nose
>>341399553
No, this was said during the treehouse live.
>>341399647
OoT at the time of its release was a huge retcon of the story of the Imprisoning War.
Do we know who's doing the music yet? Trailer sounded like Ryo Nagamatsu.
>>341399532
>before Hyrule Historia even released.
What? Historia confirmed stalfos-link?
>>341389343
Clothes are optional
>>341399403
Aonuma, the absolute madman
>>341399441
>>341399349
>yfw Crisis on Infinite Hyrules
>>341399647
Skyward Sword literally establishes the plot and provides background for the entire rest of the series.
OoT may be be the linchpin but Skyward Sword is the cornerstone that allows for everything to be connected to begin with.
>>341399739
Hold up, is XBX like this too?
>>341399793
He's not a stalfos, just a ghost.
so am i right in assuming that the Sheikah slate will be your universal toolkit and aside from melee/shields/bows your tools will mostly be runes on the slate?
>>341395619
>Ganon also has a jew nose and huge eyebrows.
Headcanon accepted. Ganondorf is Jewish.
>>341398297
But Ganon doesn't have white hair. He's lived for thousands of years and stayed a bright red.
Pause in the trailer, you see the pig face and devs on the show floor called the antagonist "calamity ganon"
>>341383606
None of them. The timeline thing was shoehorned in after the fact to appease fanboys. The games were never made to have any sense of continuity.
>>341399793
Yes, slowpoke.
>>341399815
FemLink mods when
How's the WiiU hacking community these days anyway?
>>341398461
I have a bad feeling the 'Shrines' are actually the actual dungeons.
>>341399886
No, XBX just focused more on the world than it did the story, leaving the story very barebones.
>>341388282
this would be awesome
>>341399403
Oh shit, I don't recognize that pose. Time to check dungeon meshi.
>>341386186
>Pull off a bomb
>Gaphness Gerudo Hyrule freaks out
>>341399830
Honestly, the timeline still works fine if you remove Skyward Sword, because it answers questions that didn't really need answering.
>>341399781
>>341397749
>koroks can literally be in any timeline
flatout incorrect. Koroks are the post-flood evolutionary descendants of the kokiri
>>341399995
Which is why they specifically differentiated between shrines and dungeons multiple times, right?
The game has literally the same internal codename as WW.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=206346957&postcount=804
/Users/jereca03/Desktop/MOCHA/_ASSETS_U-King/UKING video/01_Files/Loop_FINAL_V1_(AE).aep
>>341399927
The main trailer, or one of the gameplay ones?
>>341389994
>Realizing that this is Fi
>Hasn't been used in centuries
>>341400148
proof? I would love to be proven wrong. Some hard evidence would be nice.
>>341398383
Well ever since they revealed that the evil inhabiting Ganondorf is it's own being, I feel like we can't rule anything out.
People who aren't triforce bearers reincarnate in Zelda all the time.
Maybe Ganondorf was reincarnated, but the monster seperated from the man a long time ago. Certainly would explain why Ganondorf had no human form in the downfall timeline.
It's the Link from Zelda I & II, after Link to the Past.
>>341399515
OoT by far, it has the foundation for most of the lore and it's link is by far the most relevant too.
SS was was huge with the origins of the Master Sword, Hyrule and most importantly the reincarnation cycle.
>>341399995
Nah, the shrines are like mini dungeons
They said there was about 100 shrines in total
Koroks don't exist in any timeline aside from WW and the game looks reminiscent to WW's artstyle, merely upgraded. I don't know how it could be anything but WW at this rate, as the hints are clearly there.
The fact of the matter is not which timeline rather where in it's timeline. Is this before the great flood or after? Who knows.
>>341399349
Because TP was the open world predecessor to this game.
They said this before.
Plot wise, there is no connection.
>>341398598
Oh if we want to talk about fap fuel then yes, Fi is great.
>>341399793
Where have you been
>>341400231
I'm not going to look through 7 hours of gameplay footage, but almost every time they talked about shrines they mentioned how they are different from dungeons, and are just smaller trials dotted about the map.
First of all, I don't think it even matters where on the timeline it is.
Second, I would guess it is in that long period of time after Skyward Sword, before Minish Cap.
>>341386327
I would be up for this too, a Link that relies on tools in a devastated world is appealing. I'm glad we are having a variety of weapons and shields, hopefully they improved the upgrade system from SS.
The Master Sword in the logo as well seems to be damaged.
>>341400398
I need to watch that shit anyways, thanks.
>>341383606
I thought it was directly after Skyward Sword, what with everything seeming to be ruins and wilderness. Maybe this is how Hyrule was founded?
>>341399964
>How's the WiiU hacking community these days anyway?
The faggot with the good exploit erased all his online profiles and dissapeared
>>341399948
>>341399892
Welp, happy ending OOT/MM Link
>>341399927
Maybe ganon and ganondorf are separate entities now
Was that Doom 4's opening?
>>341400180
Main trailer. You see him for a split second before it switches to Link fighting that guy with a spear
Will she be back tomorrow?
>>341400342
>TP Link lives in a ranching community
>Is descended from the Hero of Time
Malon x Link confirmed canon, all is right with the world
>>341398396
except it s details look nothhing like either two bridges in Eldin and Lanayru
>>341398461
Wait I'm not sure why this is a good thing? Wouldn't you want to play the game, and not just skip through it? Someone clarify
>>341399964
well homebrew is doing ok
but not a lot of people modding the games beside smash
last night there was another thread about the #FE game censorship, and i was trying to talk about the possibility of modding the jap version to combine it with english text but most people rather shitposting than actually doing anything
>>341399339
I honestly hope you die tonight. Not painfully, but you just lose consciousness and never wake up
The important thing is preventing you from bothering alive persons with your stupid opinions and your bad ideas.
Promptly kys.
>>341399781
Retconning one game isn't near the same as retconning a whole franchise, when OoT came out I'm sure you could fit the IW somewhere anyway.
In any case, I don't think SS even retconned much, it only gave answers to the origins of the whole Zelda mythos (Hyrule, The Master Sword, why Ganondorf, Link and Zelda keep appearing).
>>341400495
While it would be very cool to have Bro-tier WW Ganondorf help you beat his beast-like alter ego, I really think the dude is meant to be the King of Hyrule.
>>341400578
It shows how open-ended the game is, while also providing a fun little challenge that people can do if they want.
>>341398461
>The most of the lore is told in the background
This is what I wanted for Zelda ever since Skyward Sword's AGGRESSIVELY story driven nonsense.
>>341398018
Where can I find pics of Ganon flying over hyrule castle?
>>341400578
It's an optional challenge for people interested, like the swordless Zelda 1 challenge.
If you want to experience the full game and learn the plot, don't do that, obviously.
>>341400649
this
also seeing how link get one shotted by the random world boss rock. you better be good to dodge all the shit from the final boss at "lv1"
>>341399945
fanboy here that dislikes a notion of timeline.
>The timeline thing was shoehorned in after the fact to appease autists that can't enjoy anything unless it fits some kind of canon.
fixed.
>>341400398
Wasn't Anouma talking about dungeons and dungeon size pretty early on? It's hard to find the article now that theres so many brand new ones but I'm pretty sure he compared the dungeon size to all of hyrule field or some shit
>>341400540
Hero of Time left no family. He died filled with regret that his skills never passed on.
There's no way the Temple of Time would look like that after only 100 years.
>>341400786
>speculation is bad
>no fun allowed
eat shit dude
>>341400803
>left no family
>calls TP Link blood related
>>341400803
Did you even read >>341400342
It clearly states that the HoT was TP Link's ancestor
>>341383606
Link is definitely dead at the start, so it's possible that it's the failure timeline. It could just be a constant that Kokori always turn into Koroks.
>>341400786
Bro they said there was a timeline for years and had given hints since Ocarina of Time was released.
>>341383606
Before the timeline split. Directly after Skyward Sword, because you find ruins with advanced technology in that game and the sky people literally just started to live on the ground.
>>341398383
>>341399927
That's not Pig Ganon. That's Phantom Ganon, who is described as a different entity in both OoT and WW.
>>341400803
See >>341400342
>The spirit of Link's ancestor, the hero of time
>>341400920
The common theory was that he fathered a son with Malon, hence TP Link being a hick ranch boy
>>341398461
That's actually very good, he really went for the NES Zelda flavor after all, while hooking up the player with rewards of gameplay and story if they feel like truly exploring.
I'm glad this doesn't sounds as linear.
>>341401013
>that voice in the opening call link to wake up
>seeing link waking up also made my cock wake up
>>341401021
Actually now that I look yeah it looks like it has WW Phantom Ganon's helmet
>>341401021
You literally just pulled that out of your ass.
Reports from Zelda site journalists on the floor say his name is Calamity Ganon
>>341398784
It seems like it autosaves. Like when she died in the Clockwork shrine temple place
Or when that Plateau Monster kill him
>>341401142
That's a screen shot from the game. Here's Phantom Ganon from Wind Waker. Look at the horns in relation to the eyes.
And yes, it's a theory. Why would they spoil the game's story at the first gameplay demonstration?
>>341401021
No, it looks like pig Ganon, it just has a really wide open mouth, also it's called Calamity Ganon.
>Video related
https://youtu.be/dk1xvzdiE2A?t=820
>>341401142
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-hands-on-im/1100-6440864/
>As I explored Hyrule, the plight of the once great kingdom lay before me. Ganon--known in this game as Calamity Ganon--overtook Hyrule Castle a century ago, leaving the surrounding area to the whims of nature and time.
Why the fuck did Ganon take control of Hyrule Castle just to do nothing whatsoever with the surrounding land?
>>341401409
Other reports have said that he was trapped there.
>>341401409
Because this is WW Ganon we're talking about.
He has no interest in being a tyrant anymore, he just wants to see Hyrule again and sit in a fancy castle.
Then Shiekah drone femboy Link shows up to stab him in the face again.
>>341398379
>>341398442
They're not Rito, they represent Ooccoo, when they were still in contact with the surface people
>>341395578
I do agree that they probably didn't think about any coherent timeline way back when, but you can't say they don't care now.
Skyward Sword was a game made specifically for the timeline - to be the beginning.
You would be pretty safe to assume this next game is going to consider the timeline as well, especially when they have references to old games with the temple of time and the koroks right off the bat, they KNOW tons of people would try to place the game into the timeline and the koroks only ever appeared in one of the three timelines making it a key hint to where it's placed.
>>341399927
>But Ganon doesn't have white hair. He's lived for thousands of years and stayed a bright red.
He was sealed by the goddesses when they flooded Hyrule though, he wasn't exactly alive for those thousand years. He hasn't been shown to age because every time we see him he has been sealed or dead, but he's always born a mortal, so there is no reason for us to think he's ageless, specially because he has to grow up from being a Gerudo kid to a man somehow.
>Pause in the trailer, you see the pig face and devs on the show floor called the antagonist "calamity ganon"
Which is why I said Ganon.
The entities of Ganondorf and Ganon could very well be separated, heck, maybe his whole plan is to get his power back.
This is all a thoery mind you, he could very well be Daphnes, but I think Daphnes just passed away when Hyrule flooded, after achieving his wish and getting peace, plus the color scheme is just too similar to Ganondorf's.
>>341386186
Imagine, just imagine if this is the "Gannondorf was right" game. We help him rebuild Hyrule. He doesn't betray us, he just wants to bring Hyrule back.
>>341398461
Inb4 Link is a clone because the true Hero already migrated to a different land.
>>341401409
Doesn't the old man mention that he's bound to the castle or something to that effect?Zelda has been inside, maintaining a ward to keep him there for a century, waiting for the day when Link would return to finish the job
>Demise's curse broken at the end of WW
>Ganon and Ganondorf are two separate entities now
>Ganon is just a mass of rampaging evil and holds the triforce of power
>Ganondorf is a old fart who just wants to chill in Hyrule again
They are probably just going to pull a "I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE A HOBO", but I'm kinda hoping ganondorf isn't a villain this time around.
>>341400635
>Opinions
What I said in my post were all facts. Even the one about you being a faggot
>"Users may not actually get the full story depending on how they play this game and how they strategize and solve puzzles," producer Eiji Aonuma told Polygon. "Users are able to go to the very end goal without revealing why Link woke up the way he did and where he did. Whether you want to reveal the storyline and find out why Link woke up, or you want to just go straight to the goal, that's an option totally up to the user."
>When asked, Aonuma confirmed that a player could go directly to the final boss of the game from its opening moments if they wanted. However, he also stressed that he didn't view this as an ideal way to play.
>"Anybody who can go straight to the goal without doing anything else — there's two possibilities," Aonuma said. "Either they're a really good gamer, or they could be somebody that's a little bit crazy. But it's not impossible. I created the game like that.
http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/15/11942652/legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-ending
Damn, this game got me all hyped up then I remembered that I don't have a Wii U.
>>341383606
So, you guys wanted a Souls x Skyrim for Kids crossover all along? alrightGame looks good gameplay wise but graphics are poor and nothing it's doing is new.
>>341401405
Alright, now I can see it. However, one could argue that the old man is Ganondorf if he can differentiate the being as "calamity ganon". The man and the beast becoming separate, or something like that.
>>341401668
Sort of like this guy's thing.
>>341401542
They look exactly like the Rito, and the mural has an Ooccoo on it already on the right side.
>>341401792
>Aonuma confirmed that a player could go directly to the final boss of the game from its opening moments if they wanted.
WHAT
WHAT
>>341386001
My money is on this, or simply a new sequel long after Zelda 2, because of the technology. Hero failed timeline though for sure. That's why Link is right handed and why they built the very twin peak mountains from LoZ booklet.
Why do people care so much about the plot of these games? They're bare bones
>>341401668
The only thing that keeps me from believing this is the fact that he's not voiced. If Zelda is voices, then a major plot-relevant character like Ganondorf would be too.
>>341401823
NX gon give it to ya.
>>341401409
>Calamity Ganon
What if Calamity Ganon and Ganondorf are separate entities. Maybe it separated from him while he was trapped in the stone. Perhaps he's helping Link so he can reunite with Calamity Ganon and become powerful
>>341401915
Morrowind Link Edition
this is pre wind waker before the massive flood. It's basically gonna be Link reviving Hyrule with the temple of time's magic, and then ending with the great flood. Then you'll probably get a glimps of WW Link waking up for his birthday surprise from his little sister.
>>341388031
>I'm just a strange old man
Christ Nintendo needs some decent writers.
He's literally referring to himself in third person
>>341401792
dude
holy shit
>>341389385
>>341392192
Please be Ganon
It's about time we got the "this new threat is much more important than our old conflict" and maybe have Ganon work beside Link to try and defeat the source of all these weird robot walker things.
Also who do we think this Link is? It's supposed to be a previous one who's just been put into "cryo" right?
>>341402025
this is LITERALLY everything I've ever wanted from a zelda game, ever
it's almost too good to be true, there has to be some kind of catch right?
Calling it now, you travel back to time to when guardians were functioning like on the trailer and return back through stasis.
>>341401957
Could be removed from the demo version? They took out towns from it, so we know it's not off the table.
>>341401930
>why do people care and want to talk about things they like
>>341401930
There is a difference between plot and lore. The plot of an individual Zelda game is not interesting, but the lore of the entire series is.
>>341401912
>and the mural has an Ooccoo on it already on the right side.
because the mural represents progression.
Ooccoo were originally Skyloftians, and gradually became chicken people.
Nothing that happens is going to change the fact that Wind Waker is in a different timeline anyway.
>>341401792
this is a fucking Magnum Opus of a game.
>>341399515
Ocarina. It laid down the foundation of the lore, and basically every game builds on it.But only the Wind Waker did it well
Skyward Sword's importance to lore was overhyped. It's biggest contribution was retconning the "Hylia" into a Goddess, when a Link to the Past said it was a race of people.
>>341399396
>someone kills the final boss while naked and using only the shitty axe near the starting point
>>341402034
What? That's a perfectly normal kind of sentence. Have you never introduced yourself to someone before?
>>341399793
It says so in one section of the book, but in a later part of the book it backtracks and says "it's a widely accepted theory"
>>341402174
That answers nothing you idiot. I didn't ask why people care about the game, I asked why people theorize about the plot as if it's actually going to be there. It'll be incredibly barebones and tiny, like every Zelda game
>>341402151
but there's already footage of some being functional in the current state of the world
I like the "remnants of an ancient conflict" idea more, like the things from Journey. I like the whole "the world right now is shit, but there are still traces of how high tech things used to be" setting
>>341402158
People need to not confuse "took out" with "didn't show"
>>341402207
>Ooccoo were originally Skyloftians, and gradually became chicken people
>The chiken people turn into cucos
>>341402473
Sorry, was just being informal. Hopefully you catch my drift.
>>341398461
Holy fuck yes.
>>341402325
Some crazy Jap is going to beat the boss day one, upload it to youtube and then spoil the ending for everyone.
Calling it.
>>341402142
I hope not I normally hate LoZ games but this shit looks fucking great
>>341402819
kek, probably
Which is great. It's a testament to this Zelda-games' versatillity,
>>341398461
This is so fucking cool
Video game never do this. Sometimes there really is no valid excuse to the question "Why don't I just go fight the bad guy in the first place?"
>>341402819
Shit, I'm gonna have to go on internet blackout when it comes out
>>341399815
THICK
>>341402047
Depends on the timeline. Could be a few different options.
1) the Wind Waker Link, as we don't know what happened to him after he and tera founded Hyrule, and this could be a grown up version of him.
2) the Skyward Sword Link, who was revived because he was the original "hero" and needed in this apocalyptic Hyrule. Very possible considering that this Link is right handed, and the only other one in canon is the Breath of the Wild Link.
And there could be more, I'm not too sure. those are my picks at least.
>>341402819
Not all of it, as it was said already you will need to explore and do things to get the whole story. Just finishing the game without much explanation of things will be cool but won't solve the bigger questions.
>>341402047
It can't be Ganon.
It could be Ganondorf.
Why can't people understand the difference between both. Ganondorf is the human, Ganon is the pig.
>>341403109
>Right Handed
I'm really hoping they don't fuck this up again. Having to play Skyward Sword as a Lefty was the worst thing to come of that game.
>>341402587
It's a pretty major distinction. In one case, the small bit of the game we were shown is largely representative of the final product. In the other, it's not.
People assume when they say they avoided showing NPCs in the demo that there will actually be more NPCs in the area shown in the demo, come the final game. I think it's unlikely this is the case. The NPCs are located in an area that wasn't shown, likely one or two relatively small, remote, holdout settlements, nothing major, consider a big idea of this game seems to be that at some point in the past, civilization was reduced to almost zero by a catastrophic event.
Similarly, I think it's unlikely they deliberately removed the Old Man's voice acting from the demo build to conceal implied plot significance.
>>341403278
Shorthand, and the King of Hyrule made this mistake as well.
>>341398461
>tfw start game, go straight to where the final boss is said to be
>If you beat him, you beat the game early and get a unique reward
>Instead you lose because you lack the skills
>Hero Mode: Punished Link Edition begins
How hype would you be.
>>341403278
It actually doesn't matter because they are one in the same and you are actually autistic
>>341403283
It's not motion controls anymore, so don't worry.
>>341402275
Hylia could be both a good and an ancient people tho, anon.
We don't really know a lot about the Zelda lore outside of where the games take place.
>>341400398
they flat out say "there are these shrine things and there are dungeons that Zelda fans will be familiar with also"
I'm split. Part of me is excited because it looks like an incredible game. Part of me is disappointed because it looks absolutely nothing like a Legend of Zelda game, but rather just a simplified Elder Scrolls game with some familiar names and the combat system taken from the Zelda franchise.
>>341389473
it's ok when they do it, but if the genders were reversed, god forbid
>>341403380
It may be autistic but the games have made a clear difference most of the time, aside from WW.
>>341400803
Just because his skills never passed on doesn't mean he didn't have a family.Maybe he only had daughters.
>>341403501
I would disagree a bit, Zelda was about exploring and going into adventure back in the NES.
I'm excited to see the franchise truly try something new to it, even if TES did it before.
>>341400797
jesus fuck... WUT? Now that this huge ass game is done, I think they can now work on many more simplistic yet quality fun games going forward. I can't wait to play this new Zelda.
>>341403501
It looks more like a Zelda game than Zelda games have in a long time. People just forgot what Zelda stood for because recent games have run with the story driven aspect of OoT more and more. If anything this is the truest sequel the original LoZ has ever gotten, in terms of design philosophy.
>>341403501
dude, bro, my man, my dog, listen
Don't do this. Be happy that Nintendo is actually updating their franchises, or are at least attempting too. One of the main problems with Nintendo is that they prefer to live in the past with their games and just keep churning out games that have no place in this world anymore. Be happy that they're moving forward my dude, my guy
>>341402047
The monks in the shrine literally say that their entire existence is to help Link end whatever threat Ganon has come up with. Ganon is not going to be helping Link.
Ganon is the manifestation of Ganondorf when he unleashes the Triforce of Power. Because of his dark and twisted heart, it morphs him into Ganon. They are one in the same. This warping of people by the triforce's power is the same reason Link turned into a bunny in the Dark World in Link to the Past.
If you'd fought Ganon in the light world, he would have looked like Ganondorf. Or whatever Ganondorf would have looked like in 1992.
>>341389343
That's a pretty cool looking axe.
I hope tool-weapons have learnable combos.
>>341403985
>Didn't say "My boy"
We're in a TLoZ thread, my boy.
What if "Ganon" is basically just the ethereal remenants of Demise that've been exorcised out of Ganondorf?
Hence Ganondorft being a good guy now?
>>341404016
>This warping of people by the triforce's power is the same reason Link turned into a bunny in the Dark World in Link to the Past
Everybody is turned into something in the dark world. You find a crook turned into a hand and a bully turned into a demon-like form.
Only in the twilight realm the triforce turns you into something
Would anyone else be interested in a /lozg/ on /vg/ for protracted discussion like this? I fucking love Zelda lore speculation.
>>341404016
they're also turbo ancient and dead as fuck
The sages in Ocarina were there to do that too, but they were more recent. Remember that Link wakes up SUPER far in the future when everything is fucked EXCEPT all the high tech Sheika shit, which is basically supposed to be the only thing that lasted from the old world.
Since they're on the bandwagon of changing the typical Zelda formula, maybe those Shrines are just a sort of "yeah we got ready for the wrong thing" kind of plot but he still uses the resource anyway. Ganon doesn't seem to be the kind of guy to have access or ability to use big evil robots.
>>341402819
yeah, by being a faggot and using some shitty hack. The final boss is probably damn near close to impossible, but there is some way that only they know. Like some extremely slow way of avoiding death and lowering the bosses hp for like a good 50 mins of patience.
>>341404214
Leading theory at the moment.
>>341404375
Nah, we're only hyped because of the new game, Zelda Speculation pretty much died after Hyrule Historia.
>>341404348
what did Zelda turn into?
>>341404348
Yeah, but remember that Ganondorf used the triforce to create the dark world. It was the power of the triforce that changed everyone.
In games like TP or OOT, he only uses the triforce to change himself.
>>341401957
Zelda might just wake you up tho as a throwback to Alttp. She could show up at the very very end in a cutscene with no voiced characters in-between.
>>341404451
>Nah, we're only hyped because of the new game
Yeah no shit, but the hype train has months ahead of it now.
>>341404412
>A century goes by
>Ganondorf is up to something.
>Ganondorf is immortal.
You don't think he could have found/created/stolen technology during a century of free time without a Link?
I'm thinking that Breath of the Wild takes place during Majora's Mask, but in Hyrule while Oot Link is in Termina
>>341404592
Yeah, but the speculation will die down and at most we'll probably have a thread a week or each couple of weeks.
We don't have much material to make theories from.
>>341404375
>making a general
No have you seen any of the fucking generals on /vg/? It's filled with the worst of any given fanbase and tripshits.
>>341404860
Why is this literally fucking Zelda: The Phantom Pain?
>>341399964
>FemLink mods when
Disgusting,
Damn, those runes are cool as fuck, especially the stasis one. Look like they have a lot of applications too.
>>341403283
Skyward Sword is now canonically right handed so any reappearance from him would be right handed.
Hopefully this Link is SS link because a new incarnation being right handed would be dull. Not sure if he's SS link tho simply because he doesn't look like SS link: he looks too young and skinny, maybe it's a consequence of resurrection, but you'd think they'd make him visually similar if they were reusing an incarnation.
>>341396450
In one of the trailers there was a bridge that was similar to the one in TP
>>341404860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLoytewvn0g
>>341404860
This is like some Ghost in the Shell type shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsiepGvjjTM
>>341404739
>wake up in a Zelda world that isn't your own
>already a big brave hero man
>you meet the Link that would otherwise be the hero character in this point of the timeline, but you're here to do that instead
>is a weak little shit who you meet and interact with throughout the game who progressively gets better
>is more powerful than you by the Final boss
>the reason why the final boss would be near impossible for the player Link up to that point is because the actual key to the fight being fought normally is having current Link there
>>341404806
Both the generals I visit don't even have tripfags.
/v/ is a lot more cancerous than /vg/ at any given time, filled with shills and normalfags, I got so tired of this place that I only come here for E3.
>>341405227
>YOU WERE THE COMPANION ALL ALONG
![Zelda_II,_The_Adventure_of_Link_(North_Temple)[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/a7iSh1I.png "Zelda II, The Adventure of Link (North Temple)[1]")
This opening feels like Zelda 2. Except instead of Zelda in stasis, it's Link.
Wouldn't it be wild to find out halfway through your adventure, Zelda was trying to find a way to wake you up?These are also the only two Zelda games to have a dedicated jump button.
>>341405448
Don't forget the RPG elements of Zelda 2
It's kind of hard to speculate at this point given we've seen a grand total of one NPC (and the rest were intentionally omitted in order to avoid spoilers). Personally I'm a proponent of this being a convergence of timelines at this point, there's elements from all three showing up here and there (stuff that should me mutually exclusive like Koroks and the Bridge of Eldin). Venom Link is kind of already a pretty big twist (assuming it's legit), if Link was being sealed by the Gods or whatever I doubt they'd need all that TECHNOLOGY in order to do it.
I need this game fucking NOW. I imagine they're gonna be cockteasing us with this for the next few months.Also Wolf Link and no Midna to go along with it feels very wrong to me.
>>341389343
Aren't those Shulk's boxers?
>>341389385
I instantly thought of ganon but who knows?
>>341404739
Hyrule during MM just looked like Hyrule during the kid section of OOT, but with no monsters.
>>341383606
Honestly, I don't think this takes place in any of known timelines. This is a game taking place in a new timeline entirely. A very fucked-up one, at that.
Even weirder - there are too many locales and remnants from previous games and different timeline placements appearing in this. There's no way this is coincidental.
>Ocarina of Time's Temple of Time
>Skyward Sword goddess statues and loftwing statues
>Remnants of sea-salt from the Wind Waker's great sea, along with koroks.
>Twilight Princess's wolf Link, and Aonuma admitting that Wolf Link would play a part in BoTW's plot and that we should play TPHD for clues
>Twilight Princess's bridge of eldin
>A Link to the Past's Master Sword location
>TPHD's Temple of Time depicting imagery and hieroglyphs of races from SEPERATE FUCKING TIMELINES interacting with a Link-like figure. Pic-related
So this game doesn't take place in one of the 3 timelines. It's not a pre-split game either.
BoTW's Hyrule is experiencing a space-time continuum distortion event where characters, races, locations, events and so on from various timelines are converging into this unusual pocket-dimension of Hyrule.
TLDR:we DaS's Lordran now.
This game is going to be absolutely fucking insane.
All this thread and nobody bothering to mention that you can pall around with mother fucking WOLF LINK the entire game.
A Link and his Dog.We Fable 2 now I guess
>>341406016
More like a Link and his other Link.
>>341406016
I cant wait for all the linkxwolflink selfcest
>>341404153
>>341405431
IF THEY DON'T LET ME LITERALLY EAT AN OCTOROK I SWEAR TO GOD
Is link and Old man ganondorf the only living people left in this game?
Anybody else think there's gonna be some late game dungeon buried right underneath the clone chamber or whatever the fuck it is where you first start?
>>341406289
Obviously.
>>341406016
would rather travel with a teen princess midna. but this time at her full power. being able to customize her clothing and everything.
>>341406205
Its confirm there are towns in the game they were taken out to advoid spoilers.
>>341406175
>ate an octorok
>achievement unlocked: Great!
>>341406289
>The game takes place at the end of all three timelines
>Hyrule and all of civilization have been dead and gone for thousands of years
>But the cycle set in motion by Demise and Hylia continues
>Ganon still resurrects at regular intervals
>Magitech system put in place that either creates a new Link from scratch when needed or keeps the final Link in stasis, only waking him up when its time to save what's left of the world again.
>He goes back to sleep after defeating Ganon until the next time he shows up some hundred years down the line
>>341406149
That's what makes it really weird.
Link is adventuring with himself from another era.
>all this Zelda footage out there
>it's literally nothing after all, no spoilers.
>>341404153
>>341405431
>>341406175
>>341406787
This is why i keep coming here.
>>341407071
I can't believe they went through the effort to remove every town and NPC just for the demo
I want a game set in the Zelda world where you play a soldier sent by Zelda to find the hero, and you end up doing a bunch of heroic shit to get there, or like, it turns out there is no hero so you have to do some crazy shit to find one of the heroes from another time or world or something. Or even, the world gets fucked because you can't find a hero, since clearly that happens sometimes. That ones maybe too dark though.
>>341407356
Not only did they say that's what they did, we only saw a very small percentage of the whole map. Maybe the demo area just doesn't have any towns.
>>341389467
>they think that's the full map
O
Im
Laffin
>>341406812
Sounds like a recipe for a stellar NG+. Even though I hate the idea, in general.
![tumblr_m8ocw5geq11qhsqm1o1_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3Vw18Vj.jpg "tumblr m8ocw5geq11qhsqm1o1 1280[1]")
>>341405416
>>341405227
>You were Venom Link all along
>>341407412
That is literally what this game is going to be.
>Link in this game isn't even Link, just a fake clone; ala Punished Link
>All of these weird timeline inconsistencies taking place within this game hint to a new timeline where infromation from previous timelines is converging into a single layer of existance, as already mentioned above, think Lordran
Best with me here and how tinfoily all of this is going to get: but if BoTW's Link isn't a real Link, then there may be a chance we run into the "real" Link later on.
But - if we're exploring a Hyrule that is literally manipulating the laws of physics by converging timelines together into its own separate universe - then maybe there is a chance we won't run into just one Link. Maybe the Wolf Link companion is a hint towards this.
It's possible that we're literally going to come into contact with multiple Links who have appeared in previous games within the Zelda time line. Maybe they'll be the game's equivalent of bosses we have to slay for whaever reason, or ally NPCs to progress through the game.
That would be the most insane shit ever if it has a remote chance of being true.
>>341389385
He is just a regular bearded guy
>>341389385
>hiding his ears
Absolutely him.
>>341408693
>It's possible that we're literally going to come into contact with multiple Links who have appeared in previous games within the Zelda time line.
Zelda: Generations
Literally Souls ripoff.
>>341409140
>people have been touting Souls as being the superior Zelda game and how Zelda should take notes for it for years
>suddenly Zelda does and now people are calling it a ripoff
ROO DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU RANT DATS WHY I MAKE RII SPORTS
>>341408693
>you are the enemy of hyrule all along through some convoluted bullshit and have to fight every link from the three timelines
>>341409406
>Calamity Ganon is you from the future
We Blazblue now
tfw this guy was right.
https://twitter.com/lorebro64
>>341405964
Maybe they're trying to unfuck the Zelda timeline by merging all three into one? The plot is about how all three timelines have reconverged or some shit.
>>341388386
>unless this is some world where Ganondorf the man and Ganondorf the beast split up like some kind of Majiin Buu situation.
So his name is Dorf.
>>341409608
>SS created a paradox
But that's wrong. In the present you wish to destroy the imprisoned, and the triforce does it. Then, as you think the game is ending, Ghirahim fucks it up, travels to the past, and undoes the seal from there. You defeat Demise here in the past, and seal him in the master sword (no longer at risk of escaping like he was with the pillar).
Now you return to the present, and the imprisoned was just never there. You never made a wish on the Triforce, everything is as it was pretty much. The only things that really change are all related to the people who were right there near the time traveling, so it's safe to say it just carried over. There is no paradox.
>>341409757
This coupled with confirmation of circular timeline would be the best fucking thing they could do to the timeline to make it way more satisfying.
On a different note I'd like to know more lore about the technology we see here and have seen in SS.
Either it takes place centuries after Twilight Princess or it's in "The Hero Has Fallen" timeline.
Everything in the Wind Waker timeline has been chibi style artwork; why change that?
>>341409757
>zelda get's it's own version of a dragon break
>>341386186
>huge
>jew nose
>dark, tan skin
>red and black tunic
>upside-down triangle pendant on his cloak
>"yeah I'm just a strange old man, that's all"
Yeah it's fucking Ganondorf, all right.
>>341410035
>laughingelfman.jpg
>>341410162
It's sort of always been implied that the Sheika are highly advanced. They invented the lens of truth, the gossip stones that can fucking turn into rockets, were implied to be behind the timeshift technology, etc. etc.
It seems that the tribe as a whole will be getting a lot more detail in this installment.
>>341386186
He is kaepora gaebora.
Screencap this.
>>341403380
But they aren't the same. Ganon could only manifest himself back in Hyrule through blood rituals, and finally managed to be born through Ganondorf due to Ganondorf himself having a prestigious birth, being the only man to be born in the Gerudo tribe in a century.
In Link's Awakening it's shown that Ganon doesn't need a human host to be resurrected, as once again blood sacrifice is all he needs.
In Ocarina of Time it's shown Ganon possesses Ganondorf when the latter fails to kill Link himself, and in Twilight Princess it's shown that Ganondorf can use Ganon's form almost willingly after having decades to adapt, but ultimately gives it up to his the form he's most comfortable in to get his own vengeance for being sealed, unlike Ganon's bloodlust from the beginning of time.
In Wind Waker it's shown that Ganondorf has given up Ganon completely, and instead is trying to fight for his own purposes rather than trying to kill Link, which Ganon is obsessed with.
>>341386186
>>341388386
It's the old man from Zelda 1 you fucking casuals. That's why he gives you items and shit.
>>341396050
I'd like to imagine that the master sword has magical properties that create shrine like nature surroundings as it lays dormant.
>>341411060
You mean Rauru? Yeah probably, because it's the most boring answer.
>>341411261
>forgetting to mentioin ALBW which pretty much outright confirms that Ganon is his own sentient entity that's capabable of possessing people, and cares for nothing but sheer destruction
>>341411482
I... I haven't played ALBW, senpai...!
>>341400298
Kokiri evolved into Koroks so they could fly over the ocean, so it would definitely be after the flooding. Plus there's that sea stuff scattered around indicating that there was once an ocean over that Hyrule.
>>341401668
>Ganondorf becomes the FMA:B Hohenheim of Zelda; granted incredibly long life by an evil spirit and the Triforce of Power, but since being separated has only sought to eliminate that evil from the world once and for all
sweet
>>341404137
kek
>>341396603
This map is apparently 16 times bigger than Twilight Princess
>>341411360
This.
The Master Sword is still purposely incredibly mysterious. Even with the Fi backstory we know little about what magical properties it actually carries.
They could make up any lore for the powers of The Master Sword and it would be acceptable because it's such a mystery. The most fabled object in the Canon.
>>341410079
>Now you return to the present, and the imprisoned was just never there. You never made a wish on the Triforce, everything is as it was pretty much.
That's a paradox.
If what you're saying is true (which it's not because that doesn't make any damn sense and Impa guides you throughout the game re-fulfilling her mission as Hylia foresaw), then that violates the universe that you interacted in, scrubbing it out of existence.
>>341401617
>Skyward Sword was a game made specifically for the timeline - to be the beginning.
You don't need a timeline to have a beginning. It's literally a retelling of the original game and the hero's quest like all games before. It could have easily existed without a literal timeline bullshit.
>>341412014
But they obviously purposely released it along the hype surrounding the timeline at the time.
What you're saying makes sense, but you'd be a delusional denier if you can't see how Nintendo made (and hyped) SS around the timeline starting point.
Nintendo would be regarded if they didn't capitalise on timeline hype.
>>341412014
No shit Sherlock! For real, Captain Obvious?
But the immutable fact remains, that it serves as the beginning to the legend.
I'm not saying it's good. I'm just saying you're an idiot.
>>341412267
>>341412265
Wow insulting me like a 12 year old makes me believe you are correct and not a 12 year old at all. Thank you anon for enlightening me.
>>341412014
Oh, and just so you don't misread. I was only referring to the last sentence of your post. Not the other nonsensical bullshit you spouted.
>>341386126
wind waker is a finished timeline though. ganon is dead.
>yfw the old man isrobin williams
>>341393826
Shall we buy a new guitar?
Shall we buy a more powerful car?
Shall we work straight through the night?
>>341405815
Thank you, friend.
>>341412425
I wouldn't say "delusional denier" is much of an insult on 4chan. My post actually assumes you're intelligent enough to see that, even if Nintendo gave no shits about timelines in the past, they are now capitalising on the hype garnered around it by fans (not that that means it "matters" in any significant way).
Story always took a back seat in Zelda, but the timeline stuff gives lore junkies something to chew on = appealing to more people.
>>341412464
Can we talk about nonsensical things for a minute?
If the Skyward Sword can exist without an official timeline then how does that mean Nintendo cares about their timeline?
How does a beginning to the legend mean there needs to be a super specific literal minded timeline?
Why would Aonuma want such a fresh start and incoperate so many things from so many certain branches of the "official timeline" Seriously we've got a right handed link, the cliffs from Zelda 1, the old man etc. OoT, Koroks from WW, etc. etc. if a super specific timeline actually mattered?
>>341412761
You called me an idiot. That is an insult...
>>341412425
No-one sounds more like a 12 year-old than a truther who won't stop repeating a fan-fic that has been denied more times than there are awkward silent moments in an M. Night Shyamalan movies.
This truther movement is to Zelda what furries are to Sonic's fanbase, so of course you make me mad.
http://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Interview:Kotaku_May_31st_2005
>>341412265
>Nintendo would be regarded if they didn't capitalise on timeline hype.
Also you forgot a fucking word in this sentence or something because it literally doesn't make sense.
>>341412858
Damn sommerbro, you need to harden up a bit.
>>341411342
yeah i thought this was obvious
there's always some seemingly important character early on in these games that just become decreasingly relevant after every step
>saria
>the goron in SS
>the farmer with the baby in TP
>>341412640
Too soon
>>341412858
I called you an idiot,>>341412917
and I'm sorry if it makes you feel better.
>>341400461
she already got porked, she's with child in that painting
>>341412917
Hey buddy I'm sorry you are so worked up about this. There's no reason to be so angry. Have you ever heard about something called the autism spectrum disorder? I used to work with them a lot a few years ago. You meet the qualifications exactly and I think it's something you should really look into because there's no reason to be this upset and functioning in real life must be impossible. If you ever need somebody to talk to about it I can give you my email.
>>341409435
This anon makes the most sense by far.
>>341413175
Shut the fuck up retard.
If nintendo cares about the timeline why is Wolf Link?
>>341393427
I like that WW Dorf was just a tired old man with his own plan and didn't even give a shit about you until you ruined his plan at the last second and the triforce was stolen from under his nose
>>341413292
Please give me you or your guardian's email I am very worried about you. Autistic children shouldn't be left alone in such a state of agitation.
>>341413332
amiibos aren't canon
Just like Ike, Marth etc aren't canon to Fates
>>341413332
that's just an amiibo bonus, why is everyone sperging out about this?
>>341383606
I would like it to be Wind Waker timeline, either after or before. Wind Waker's timeline sadly consists only of Wind Waker and fucking DS titles.
>>341413453
What do the Fire Emblem writers and creators have to do with the canon and writing of Zelda?
Why would Nintendo put something not canon in a game if canon matters?
>>341413332
I just realized
>Guardian amiibo summons guardian companion
>>341413540
Nothing, I'm using it as an example. Are you autistic?
Amiibos don't have anything to do with the story.
>>341413332
His soul was trapped in the amiboos just like OoT Link got trapped in the Wolf stones.
>>341409435
>>341413246
The problems being:
1. Bill Trinen said that the spectacle rock in the trailer is the same as the one from Zelda 1.
2. Ganon wasn't just dead. He was literally wished away with Hyrule.
3. Hylia is more than just referred to, there's an effigy of her in the Temple of Time. How did this survive the flood and countless eons?
>>341413638
But doesn't that cause the timeline to be completely pointless if they just take things from other branches of the timeline at random?
>>341413871
No, it's a bonus feature. Like retro Arwings in Star Fox. Stop thinking too much about it.
>>341413332
Because this game is going to be the ultimate Zelda mindfuck where all timelines are converging together to become a brand-new timeline in and of itself.
>>341414014
>Link is always a midget
WWTL
>>341414014
>fuckup from TPHD.jpg
>renamed it to Hint from TPHD.jpg
Anyone else get the vibe that the weird giant spider thing is a bit like the form midna takes when she dons the stone hat at the end of tp?
>>341389343
Jesus dude, Link's waistline and lips are so feminine.
>>341414374
You might be on to something.
Their little heads even seem like fused shadows.
>>341396525
Then why do the guardians attack Link?
>>341414738
Because like DQ5 you're not the hero.
>>341396625
>As for the pedestal, it could be they built it around his body
>mfw every hero goes to pull out the MS, they're pulling it from Ganon's skull
>mfw they put it back
2spooky4me
This is set after SS, we see Skyloft in
ruinspic relatedand the tower from which Calamity Ganon is awakened is located inside it hinting at it's importance, some form of GanonOOT Ganon origin rectoned, yet againtook Hyrule some time after Link and Zelda brought Skyloft back to earth, Ganon was proven too strong for the current hero so everyone wished for Hylia to do their shit for them and she sealed Ganon inside Hyrule castle along with Zelda, Link was put into a coma of sorts by the Sheikah and people started rebuilding and making shrines so Link could get in shape after waking up and kill Ganon for good.
>>341414694
Link is so androgynous and can already pass for a girl. The SJW outrage and whining to make him female baffles me more than anything I've ever seen shitposted about Zelda.
>>341415046
NO HE NEEDS A VAGINA OR IT DOESN'T COUNT
>>341414719
Not identical, but really similar. That and eldin bridge are in the trailer, makes me think it comes after to somewhere.
>>341415312
Aonuma also said he'd like to see Midna again.
Maybe it's a TP sequel and not a WW one. It's too early to say though.
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