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>Mod makers are now making their mods require a script extender
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>Mod makers are now making their mods require a script extender so they can't be used on consoles because they were being stolen and uploaded on the bethesda website by angry console players.

Thoughts on this /v/?
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>>340823127
Serves those console plebs right desu
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The only person who has any right to the mod is the modder, they can do whatever they want.

After all the sourgrapes between you retards it's in no way surprising this is an issue.
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Good.
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>>340823127
>someone steals content and re-uploads it under their own name
>this is somehow ok because consoles
???
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>>340823127

Their mod, their rules. If you want them port, ASK them gently. Don't fucking steal their shit and expect them to take it lying down.
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>>340823258
>rights
>mods
mods are not entitled to anything
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Good.
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>>340823127
>modding your game
>ever
>not enjoying the pure vanilla experience like a functioning, well-adjusted adult
they deserve it
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>Entire mods deal with stealing assets
>Get butthurt when someone else steals it

it's like pottery
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>>340823378
>steal their shit
that's exactly what modding is
people putting copyrighted content illegally into a game
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>>340823406

>"enjoying" the stale turd that is vanilla Fallout 4
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>>340823384
>entitled
you are entitled to shit
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>>340823486
Everything is stolen from something else.

It really is pottery
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>>340823406

problem with bethesda games is it doesn't even have vanilla in it

it's just frozen cream with no sugar or other flavors
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>>340823602

Maybe you should make a petition to remove modding from consoles
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>>340823406
>vanilla bethesda games
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who honestly thought console users weren't completely retarded?
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>>340823127
>implying they are
You can't do any-fucking-thing functional without a script extender you tard.

Unless it is literally just a graphical replacement which console wont be able to run anyway.
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>>340823519
Are you implying all content in every mod is copyrighted material taken from somewhere else?
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>>340823602
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>>340823519
>that's exactly what modding is
>people putting copyrighted content illegally into a game

What? Where are these laws forbidding this? Please, cite one for me.
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>>340823529
>>340823586
>>340823707
>there is any amount of modding you can do that can make the bethesda "games" playable
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>mod users were actually bricking their consoles because they couldn't handle some PC version mods

Bethesda is a joke of a company
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>>340823723
You can do things without a script extender.

But now the mods that didn't require one, do now.
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>>340823707
>bethesda games
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too bad at the end of the day no amount of mods can fix fallout thanks to anustarts like pete hines
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>>340823848
>Hey guys how should we handle curating the mods?
>No lewd
>Anything else?
>fuck no
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>>340823848
No bricking involved, the game just wouldn't start and you have to clear the mod cache
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>>340823908
>T-they're only requiring the thing that lets them do literally anything functional to block me out, it's all a conspiracy by those dastardly people that put out free content!
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>>340824000
>games
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why dont they put open or freetards approved licenses on their mods its not like they are allowed to make money with mod.
Although devs might get angry if some guy use a ganoo license and they want to integrate the mod in a sequel.
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>>340823824
why do you think dota 2 changed all hero names and Blizzard references?

hell, even dota 1 had to
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Has it been 6 months already for /v/ to turn on fallout 4?
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>>340824119
>
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Any example of mods being artificially prevented from running on consoles?
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>>340824195
>Dota wasn't even a mod
>it was a UMS game
Why do you even post when you know so staggeringly little?
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>>340824208
What?

/v/ has hated fallout 4 since todd showed it off.

>it just works
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>>340824000
Nice trips
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>>340824281
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>>340824341
That's not how I remember it.
Just like now, all the overwatch threads . Check it, 6 months from today.
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>>340824301
Yes it's called F4SE. Google somehow has an article about it! Here I gotchu.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+F4SE

Now that I taught you that special trick for finding things out on the internet, you can help someone else out next time!
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>>340823127
After the way console users acted like retarded whining children, I agree 100% with it.
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>>340824341
/v/ was mixed about it until it actually came out though
>>340824513
You're retarded.
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>>340824000
The truth of trips lads.
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>>340824521
I meant since mods were stolen and reuploaded for consoles.
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>>340823127
This is the point where I do a smug smile and say "I told you so".
Instead I'll just start laughing my sides into orbit.
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What happened with all these stolen mods and shit?
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>>340824521
There was actually this word in his post, the word "artificially", which changed the meaning of his post from what you implied. He was not asking how mods are unable to run on consoles, but asking if there were any situations in which that was the only purpose of the mods requiring F4SE.

Perhaps you should invest some time into improving your reading comprehension, friend!
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>>340824748
Beth banned some of them, if people cared enough to report
Some people were stealing mods then asking for donations
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>>340824748
Butthurt modders mad at people playing ported versions of their mods
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>>340824998
>Some people were stealing mods then asking for donations

God damn what an awesome time to be alive. This shit is gold.
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>>340824801
Many mods do not require F4SE to function. Ergo adding F4SE requirement to a mod that does not need it artificially makes it unable to run on a console.

I comprehend just fine. You never read OP and haven't been paying attention. Go be stupid somewhere else.
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>>340825192
>succubus (male)
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>Any self respecting console owner wanting modder made trash

I mean sure you rarely get see a one kind of a mod that's actually good but 90% of it is complete garbage.

You can keep your shit kiddie cancer race, we don't want it.
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>>340823127
I love this entire fiasco.
Remember when mods on console was announced? The plebs were going nuts and saying there was no reason to play on pc anymore.
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>>340825192
Succubus (male)
That's an incubus you stupid bastard. Immersion ruined. Boner exploded. Reported. Called the cops. Killed myself. Microwaved my HD.
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>>340823127
good. the console user base proved that they were incapable of having mods, and if there's anyone you don't want to annoy, its the mod-makers, because they are completely capable of taking their ball an going home.

hopefully this plus the paid mods fiasco will convince bethesda to stop trying to fuck with a perfectly functional and lovely community.
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>>340823127
>now
most mods that do anything more than replace a model have always required script extenders doe
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>>340825405
>You can keep your shit kiddie cancer race, we don't want it.
This makes me curious why you're stealing it and begging for donations then. You guys aren't very bright to start, but this is getting pretty funny.
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test.
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>>340823127
Are you fucking retarded OP?
Script extenders have been a necessity for complex mods since forever, this has nothing to do with the modmakers being PC elitists. Where did you get this stupid idea from?
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>>340825405
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>>340823127
Nothing wrong with that
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>>340823586
This, at least in regards to fallout 4
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>consoles get all the good games but no mods
>PC gets mods in some games but none of the good games

Pretty fair trade tbpfhqyf (to be perfectly fucking honest with you fampachi). Sage.
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This is awesome. It's Skyrim with steam workshop vs nexus all over again, but ten times funnier.
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>>340825497
>taking their ball an going home.
and nothing of value was lost
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>>340823127
>temper tantrum
their loss, someone else will step up and capitalize on it the market for it it's pretty large.
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>>340825901
>SAGE GOES IN ALL FIELDS
>sage in 2016
>puts sage in two field incorrectly
I needed a good laugh
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>>340826069
>and nothing of value was lost
Except the only reason to play bethesda games
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>>340825901
>only exclusives are good
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>>340826069
hey, mods are the reason im still playing skyrim to this day. maybe you should buy a pc.
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>>340823127
>B-but consolekiddies are stealing MY mods!
O I am laffin PCfats are embarrassing tbqh
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>>340826138
Anyone with the work ethic, knowledge and skill to make a mod would be playing on PC. You know this to be true.
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>>340826356
its not that you had them, fun games should be shared. its the fact that you all acted like petulant retarded children and quickly made fools of yourselves.
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>>340826356
dumb frogposter.
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I didn't want your shitty mods anyway
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>>340826356
it is their property under DMCA
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>>340826481
Great.
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>>340826481
ok
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>>340826391
and mommies money, dont forget mommies money, how else would you pay tripple the cost of a console for a few extra sparkles and fps
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>>340826481
Okay, fox.
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>>340826174
Yes, as a matter of fact they are. Can you name a single multiplat that is also on PC that is good? It has been generally agreed upon that console multiplats are pretty great (Timesplitters, Mercenaries, The Darkness 1, and of course your triggering Red Dead Redemption), almost timeless masterpieces. Even GTA5 is a great game, but that game was made for consoles first and foremost, and then ported to more consoles, before finally being dropped off on PC, at which point everything which made it great had fizzled out. But they don't compare, obviously, to single platform exclusives. But there isn't a single game on PC that is remotely good, just passable. I dare you to prove me wrong.
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>>340826542
>how else would you pay tripple the cost of a console for a few extra sparkles and fps

By getting a job.
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>>340823127
Why do console gamers hate everything about PC gaming but want to take everything from PC gaming?
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>>340826542
i can look at porn, write a research paper, read a pdf of a book, shitpost on 4chan, order a tshirt, play vidya, listen to music, and draw a piece of art without moving from my chair. and my games run better.

owning a console is like owning a landline telephone.
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>>340823127
For some reason I didn't think console kiddies would end up being this fucking retarded when it came to modding
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>>340823486
How are "entire mods" stealing assets. They create everything in the mod.
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>>340826670
Not him, but games like Doom, Half-Life, StarCraft, Deus Ex, Civilization, and Red Alert have all received some form of console port.
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>>340826675
>and blowing your money on parts
Suit yourself, ill spend $400, and keep my other 1000$ to use on other fun shit

Feelsgood
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>>340826921
>the only good games PC had were inevitably ported to consoles
>you rarely see console games being ported to PC because it's literally a non-market
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>>340826542
It's called having a job. You'll get it when you're older.

Here's where they'll counter by calling everyone with a job a wageslave
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>>340823848
the console didn't get bricked
stop spreading misinformation, it just killed the save.
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>>340826764
you do know that owning a console doesn't stop you from doing all of that right? unless you're such a poor fag who pirates games and then plays them @ low settings
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>>340825192
>Nipple

MEIN VIRGIN EYES!
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>>340827221
but it's a male nipple so it's not lewd
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>>340826764
I can do 7 of those using a cell phone, owning a PC is like owning a landline telephone you cant walk around with it in your hand, enjoy being tied down to ur chair

Laptop fags need not apply with their top of the line laptoasters
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>>340827076
I don't worry about what the next man does with his money because i'm not a jealous female. I'm happy for you.
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>>340827274
Look at the monitor on the left
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>>340827076
>$1400 is so much money
Ask mom for more allowance money I guess. Seriously, if you made even poverty levels of money building a good PC is not cost prohibitive. I built mine for $700 a few years ago, and I just finished Blood and Wine and the only things I had to turn off were Nvidia hair works (lol) and turn the water quality down.
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>>340823826
>modding is only on bethesda games
dumb animeposter
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>>340827295
>drawing art, writing research papers, & reading books on a smartphone.
This kills the thumbs & eyes.
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>>340826391
since when modders are the most ethical creatures? any visit to moddb, fp or any modding community will show you the amount of drama and content theft to AAA games and to other modders.
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>>340827310
>d-dont tell me how to finance like a normie, I hate extra money!
Alright, yea.
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>>340823384

>Steal someone's work
>Not even a thank you

Yeah, nah you're a piece of shit.
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>>340827076
dude you can literally build a top tier PC with like 800$ if you are smart
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>>340827497
>if you are smart
If they were smart in the first place, they wouldn't be console plebs.
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>>340827471
Thank you. Peace be upon you breh.
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>>340827451
ethics ≠ work ethic you fucking preschooler.
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>>340827482
>>Steal someone's work
that's what modding is
putting copyrighted content into a game
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>>340827369
>Hey Bill, look at this $1400 computer I bought for gaming!
Whats it like having an insatiable thirst for a slightly better console experience?
Its like I'm speaking to children
>Hey look really close here, see how there's no jaggies? lol yup, thats why I play PC my friend
mfw
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>>340826510
No it's not
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>>340827932

It's not theft, but altering. Stealing would be if a modder changed things to a game then sold that for profit.

But modders do it for FREE and with the approval of the studio most of the time. All they ask for is a thank or simply acknoledging what they did.

I'd be pissed off too if a little fucking faggot 16yr old took my hard work. That's why I hate little kids and hide my power level with extreme prejudice.
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>>340827763
>anyone with the work ethic and the know how will rather throw a tantrum rather than expand their audience and make a business.
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If you have time to bitch about PC then you have time to get a job to get the money for a PC so you can stop crying about not having one.
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>>340828320
>the modding community has always functioned well on PC using only donations
>labor of love
>supportive community welcoming to newcomers
Enter consoles
>console kids start flooding mod communities with demands, easily troubleshootable problems and complaints
>modders say "I don't guarentee support for console versions of my mods"
>console kids flip shitty again
>modders add SE so they don't have to deal with it
>you come into this thread and ignore the converstaion to post creepy videos of chinese maids
???
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>pc faggots are mad that someone is stealing other peoples hard work

Its not stealing because those consoles people where not going to download the PC version anyway, so what difference does it make if they download from an unofficial source :^)
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>>340828068
>So how's that modding treament doin' for you Bob? Enjoying that stream of superior content?
What's it like having an insatiable thirst for infinitely better free content?
It's like I'm speaking to children.
>Hey look really close here, see how there's no games? Lol yup, that's why I play Consoles my friend
mfw
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>>340825476
The "(male)" thing is a joke but is also kinda correct, though. Succubus seduces men, incubus seduces women.
The semen demon from that chinese comic book is attacking a male victim, so it is a succubus. One with a dick, yes, but that isn't exactly uncommon, anyway.
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>>340823519
It's not illegal and it doesn't matter if it's copyrighted since nobody profits. With your logic painting spongebob on your child's wall is an illegal addition of copyrighted material.
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>>340823127
All's good.
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>>340823127
How can you even steal a mod if they are free by definition?
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>>340829339
It's considered stealing when you upload it somewhere without the mod maker's permission.
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>>340828754
all of those problems have existed long before this in the modding community the only new thing is bethesda and valve atempting to get a cut from all of that free work. I've been a modder since 99
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>>340823338
>this is somehow ok because consoles
why do you think sonyfags are always voted the most retarded fandom every time
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>>340829415
But no one makes money by doing this. Why aren't the modders happy that their work finds a broader audience this way and they don't even have to put work into it?
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>>340828320
>business
>mods
Oh. It's a pro-paid mods thread in disguise. Top bait, OP.
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>>340828996
>An incubus is a Lilin-demon in male form
If you go all tumblr lbgt on mesopotamian demonology I will fucking fight you.
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>bethesda kills the modding community again
Bravo, Todd.
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>>340823127
Console babies deserve it. They're entitled as shit.
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>>340823714
The retards over at Bethesda apparently.
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>buy new car
>it's lacking in a few areas
>create some modifications for it so it suits my needs/taste better
>those modifications are somehow not my property because I modified a product of another person/company

Consolefag logic ITT.
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>>340829596
Because the people are stealing their work without their permission

even if your work is free, its still stealing
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>>340828108
Yes it is

A mod maker has the claim to his original work.
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>>340827076
I built my pc for like $900 and upgraded it a few years later for like $300. Compared to a laptop for $200, a gen2 for $400, and a gen3 for $400, i only payed like $200 more. That's not taking into consideration that my job requires me to use software that would push a $200 laptop to its limit, and the people I work with are usually either running $600-$800 laptops or sleeping at the studio to finish work while I'm able to work at home. The $200 is well worth the extra capability, if you're able to make use of it, and is relatively affordable.
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>>340829596
Modders subsist on thank yous, attention and thumb ups. You take that away from them, you'll be stealing nothing from no one soon.

Also, version control.
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>>340828957
>Replys with dead memes and more sparkles argument.
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That'll teach them a lesson
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>>340829818
>create some modifications with stolen parts so it suits my needs/taste better

fixed
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>>340830269
Well, if that is the whole problem, I don't get why modders are so fucking bitchy about this. Just because they are so narcissistic that they want everyone sucking their dick just for making a mod?
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>>340830441
Its not "stealing" in any form to use open source tools to create an original piece of software as an add-on to the game.

you're an idiot
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>>340830498
>I don't get why modders are so fucking bitchy about this.
see
>>340830057
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>>340830514
"""open source tools"""
"""royalty-free assets"""
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>>340830498
You obviously don't create things. If someone were to take credit for the creation of something you made, you'd probably be pretty mad, especially if they were asking for donations.
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>>340830640
They are open source assets provided for use in open source mod-tools
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>>340830660
I actually do create a lot of things, just not for making money.

If they really take credit for someone elses mods and ask for donations, that's obviously not tolerable. I thought they just uploaded the mods on Xbox and that's it.
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>>340830498
Yes. You are complaining why fire burns, anon. It's in their nature. There will be mods for consoles. There won't be complex mods that needs memory alteration for it.

A more important issue you need to complain about is why, after all these years, don't Bethesda have all the existent functions of script extenders added already in their modern games.
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>>340823519
>I swap my bike muffler with yoshimuras
>Yoshimura now owned by the bike factory
Like I said before. Console players are callled plebs not because they are poor. But because dumb.
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>>340830882
>I thought they just uploaded the mods on Xbox and that's it.
they're effectively stealing the credit from the original author

you can infringe on copyright even if the stuff itself is free
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>>340825405
>but but I hate your mods anyway
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>>340830831
>it's open source anyway
Not all mods assets are open source fag
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>>340831012
>classism and elitism

kek
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It's simple. All you have to do is mod the mod so you can use it on consoles.
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>>340825616
You can make a mod dependent on F4SE without it actually using any of its functions. F4SE can be used as a form of anti-console DRM for your mod.
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>>340830963
I get that, but let me draw the following analogy:

I am drawing a picture and upload it to the internet. Not to make any profit or to be praised by others, just to share it with people. Then, someone takes this picture and uploads it somewhere else, where a lot more people can see it. They don't make a profit by this. Then I would be happy that it was shared and gained attention this way.

How you describe it, modders only mod to get praise for what they did, which might be true, but is not the best motive for doing things in my opinion.
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>>340831258
>Console fags actually putting effort into modding

Tippity toppity kek
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>>340831176
Yea they are

the fact that you can change any asset in the game is already open source. They're provided open source. They're provided "as is"

god you're fucking retarded

if a guy creates a script for the game, who owns the script? Him? Bethesda? or the person who made the script program?
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>>340831301
Did you give permission to the person who took it and uploaded it to another website?
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>>340823127
making mods even more of a hassle to download
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>>340829534
That makes no sense, retard.
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>>340831402
Its not a hassle, you'll download them to your PC like always, you won't even need to take any extra steps to install or run them
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I got a question for people who really think consoles are "best". How can consoles be worthwhile when they are flat out missing whole genres of games?

Where's my RTS,Grand 4X, or general tactics focused games? Handhelds do that more than consoles. The closest thing consoles have to that is Rainbow Six and it has not been tactics in a dogs' age.
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>>340831391
No, but I don't care either, because my goal is not to be praised for my creation, but just to create something I myself and other people might enjoy.
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>>340831258
Console kiddies aren't going to have the patience to search through potentially hundreds of scripts to find all the F4SE checks you can litter throughout your code. Even less so if you've taken steps to obfuscate your code to make it hard to read.

>>340831402
F4SE only needs its DLLs and for you to launch the game with the F4SE launcher instead. it's simple
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>>340831325
It's him.
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>>340831509
>No
Then they uploaded it illegally against the DMCA

you have a copyright on it.

>I didn't give them permission and I don't care
this is an oxymoron.

>I didn't give them permission
>but my goal was for others to praise my creation
they don't have to copy and upload your work without your permission
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>>340824546
>has a bobs burgers lewd on his hard drive
>insults others
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>>340824107
Are you really this retarded or merely pretending? Mod Makers are considering using Script Extenders as a DRM basically.
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I'll just continue using the old version if it's able to on mods, cause i'm sure someone's hanging on to the old version.

Even then, I don't actually play bethesda games, anywhere, so this is not an issue for me. If you're still buying into the bethesda hype trains after everything they've done in the last decade, I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but broken shit aint one.
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>>340823127
>yfw bethesda works out a deal with microsoft to get script extenders to work on consoles
i would be laughing because bethesda managed to ruin their modding community three times within a little over a year.
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>>340831479
Consoles are for AAA games which are unfortunately, getting really shitty these days.
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>>340823127
excuse me for a possibly dumb question but why the mod makers don't want their mods be used by console players? what's the issue? I mean they do them 4free anyway
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>>340831627
What I was basically trying to say is something like: Should you create art to become famous or for the sake of art itself. I always thought modders would favor the latter, but this whole stolen mods thing indicates the opposite.
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>>340823127
good....good....
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>>340831701
No company would EVER allow a script extender to run on one of their games.

This is because allowing any fallout script extender to run on consoles would IMMEDIATELY open up vulnerabilities for hacking the console. Many of them.
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>>340830498
spot the underage.
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Post YFW someone trojan horses the inevitable FO4 Sex Mod onto little billy's console.
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>>340831835
Because console users steal their mods, claim credit for them, ask for donations and will upload mods which would never work on a console in the first place.
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>>340823127
Bethesda have literally said they've taken the modders side, and don't agree with stealing.

People on here will still try and be contrarians though.
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>>340823529
>>340823586
If a game is bad, you shouldn't even bother modding it. If it is good, you should enjoy it vanilla.
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>>340831301
>>340831852
Fine, let's play ball.
>in this scenario, did the person merely use a share function on the site or actually uploaded it to their account?
>in this scenario, did the person say that they were not the creator and/or linked back to your profile?
>in this scenario, did the person ask for donations for the image?
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>>340831852

People always claim they do it for the art, but when push comes to shove, you want at least recognition for your work.

Even 16 year old girls who write fanfiction get really fucking upset when people plagiarize their slashfics. Why do you think mod makers would be any different?
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>>340831478
>>340831526
Ah, alright then
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>>340831852
>Should you create art to become famous or for the sake of art itself.
Thats your personal moral conscript
>I always thought modders would favor the latter,
of course they might. What they don't like is when some console user, takes his mod off nexus, uploads it to battlenet. It doesn't work and the people that download it either scream at bethesda, the person who uploaded it or they go all the way back to you and yell at you for making a "broken mod" even though you didn't. Its basically bad PR
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>>340831325
the creator of said script.
Jesus christ anon, if I use a dewalt drill gun to put my bike together, dewalt doesn't own the bike.
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>>340831832
So it's paying 400 for about what? 10 decent games a year? If you're lucky, plus paying for online plus paying 60 a game and DLC. Like what? What high ground do consoles got? It's simple to use and....
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from what I've seen so far, most fallout 4 console users pretty much deserve it
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>>340832059
never said that

People somehow think that if you make a mod for a game that Bethesda somehow own it which isn't true
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>>340827482
t: has a pirated game
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>>340831835
Console gamers started harassing modders, then, people started to steal content

>>340831852
>I always thought modders would favor the latter, but this whole stolen mods thing indicates the opposite.
No matter how much passion you have for art, nothing good comes when someone profits from your own work without giving credit
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>>340827434
Here's your (you), you fucking retard
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Is all of this really over Fallout 4? The mods for Fallout 4 are fucking garbage, if I modded FO3 or FNV something would at least feel a bit different. But anytime I play FO4 loaded with mods it still feels like the same boring grey sludge it's always been. Fallout 4 is a travesty that mods can't even fix, it's not worth pirating.
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>>340832131
Unfortunately, that's because some EULAs say that it is so. Checking Bethesda's EULA might clear things up.
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>>340829534
except FO4 mods are only available to xbox right now
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>>340832061
Normies like them because they have brands.
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>>340832368
That's what I'm seeing. They are like the Apple of gaming.
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>>340832013
I was just talking about the case where it was shared, without any connotation of ownership. No donations asked.

>>340832040
I guess I thought they would react at least a little calmer to the whole thing instead of instantly complaining and acting like this is the worst thing that ever happened.

>>340832058
Okay, I did not know that. I understand that that's shitty for the creator.

>>340832142
I absolutely agree if they profit from it in any way without crediting the author.
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d-didn't want them anyway
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>>340823127
Is the script extender doing anything or are they just adding a check to see if it's installed? Either way, it's a very good deterrent for stealing mods since I doubt anyone stealing mods has any coding experience.
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>>340832575
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>>340832527
Then your stupid analogy doesn't work because every share feature will link back to the original post, so you'll be receiving credit still and it will be on the same site so you'd expect people to share it around.
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>>340832575
>uniform color png
>3.44 MB
You faggots need to check these images before saving them because /b/ likes to embed child porn in them as a joke.
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>>340827295
>cell phone

>>>/facebook/
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>>340832276

Well the creation kit recently came out.

Console users should have waited a bit till the good stuff started coming out and then steal.Not these early simplistic mods
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>>340832638
Some modders are making their mod require it, so it acts like DRM.
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>>340832776
Then just assume that they saved the picture and uploaded it somewhere else, without claiming ownership or saying that they did not create it.
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DESU 90% of the mods that aren't just new cosmetics items or retexture require scripts already.
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>console gets mods
>but they don't get script extenders
Amazing
it's like those monkey paws thread
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>>340825192
is it strange that I would rather romantically love succubus(male), instead of treating him like a whore/slut?

fuck I'm lonely
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>>340825476
>Immersion ruined. Boner exploded. Reported. Called the cops. Killed myself. Microwaved my HD.
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>>340832919
This analogy is fucking retarded and doesn't work at all. What is with this board and it's obsession with making the shortest analogies possible?
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>>340823127
Can we really call console users stupid when most PC gamers go with super-cancer Intel/Nvidia over not-cancer AMD for their builds?
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>>340832862
That sounds so funny lol
Do you happen to have any of these? Just as a joke haha
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https://www.change.org/p/garry-newman-port-garry-s-mod-to-next-generation-consoles-ps4-xbox-one

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/xcom24ps4

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-all-console-users-the-ability-to-hackmod-any

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/the-culling-on-ps4

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/diablo2

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/free-online-play-for-consoles

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/fallout-4-console-for-xbops4-gamers

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/xboxorriot

https://www.change.org/p/activision-infinity-ward-jason-west-robert-a-kotick-remaster-modern-warfare-2-for-next-gen-consoles

http://web.archive.org/web/20111119104312/http://www.petitiononline.com/capcompe/petition.html

https://www.change.org/p/bethesda-remaster-skyrim-for-next-gen-consoles

https://www.change.org/p/almost-human-ltd-port-legend-of-grimrock-to-psn-ps4-ps-vita-and-xbla?just_created=true

https://www.change.org/p/washington-post-remove-the-washington-post-review-from-uncharted-4-s-metascore
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>>340833164
Just because you can't grasp a simple analogy which might give you a new perspective on things, everyone is retarded. You showed me again today that it is futile to have a meaningful discussion on this board.
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>>340823127
There's very few other options when your mod can cause performance or stability problems or, even worse, save corruption.

It's one of the only reliable ways to stop assists from breaking things.
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>>340833285
lol haha
i too would like to see this
just for a laugh
haha
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>>340829339
Some modders use modding to find job in programming, like Long War guys for XCOM, PoP for Warband, or Europa Barbaroum for Total War.

If you would made some great mod to put into your portfolio, and later siome faggot would take it, removed your name and put himself as the creator, you propably wouldn't be verry happy.
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>>340823258
That is wrong. If a person puts something on the internet, people are fully allowed to steal it. It is THEIR right, not the modder's right.
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>>340833302
>http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-all-console-users-the-ability-to-hackmod-any
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>>340833302
Who made these?
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>People ITT defending console niggers.

This is how i truly know this place is a fucking shithole.
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>>340831992
I think you're a girl because you posted animal pictures. That's a really feminine thing to do.
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>>340833285
I stopped saving big ass images from /b/ since moot enabled embedding images. It was also such a big problem that moot's servers scan for embedded files now except in /lit/ but there are ways to obfuscate them. Just don't save fucking text only pngs that are abnormally large. That's a goddamn red flag.
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>>340833520
i don't know what you mean, my friend
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>>340833303
No the analogy just does not work. There are more reasons why people are just getting upset at reposted work, mod authors are getting spammed with PORT PLS NOW on Beth and Nexus, people who steal the mods and upload them don't actually make them compatable so it breaks saves and sends kiddies in droves to the actual mod author screaming about their game, people are stealing mods and claiming they made it, people are asking for donations for stealing mods. Your shitty analogy does not come close to accurately summarizing the situation. You'd come closer with a food analogy at this fucking rate.
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>>340833449
Console commands would be nice on console games because no dev adds in cheats anymore.
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>>340831012
>Feel free to blame dd :)
Kek
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>>340823127
L
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CONSOLEFAGS
B
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F
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>>340832862
i don't give a shit my country doesn't have internet cp laws
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>>340833302
>https://www.change.org/p/washington-post-remove-the-washington-post-review-from-uncharted-4-s-metascore

i'm dying right now
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>>340833580
SPLXOBX!!!!!
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>>340829103
it is illegal to draw fan art, actually.
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>>340833806
Where the fuck do you live? Afghanistan?
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>>340833591
It wasn't my intention to describe the whole thing. I definitely agree that all those things you described are aweful and the people doing this are stupid. I just wanted to start a discussion about the motives of creating mods themselves. I am not arguing that taking credit for someone else's work is okay or that these entitled consolefags are in the right.
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Thanks
I'll just make mods that'll work on console now.
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>>340831852
Everyone talks about how they do it for the art and not fame and what not, then once push comes to shove they defend their rights to their creations like everyone else.

And you're no exception, you've just never created anything worth stealing.
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>>340825934
What happened with the steam workshop versus nexus with Skyrim?
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New console specific models take over the scene.


Script autist fade into bolivian
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>>340829596
A lot of the stolen mods had "Donation" buttons associated with them. Also some of the stolen mods weren't uploaded for consoles because they don't work or break something but they steal them and upload them anyway because "hurr durr pc mustards stop being so elitist"
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let's think of ideas to fuck with console mods

>make legit mod for console
>add a script that spawns a cup/bottle/misc item somewhere in the corner of the map away from spawn every few seconds or so
>watch as overworld takes longer and longer to load due to eventual cup overload
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Any mod worth its salt required the script extender

and the developers of that were based after the paid mods bullshit, I'm pretty sure they came out with a restriction saying that any mod which requires script extender can doesn't receive their authorization to monetize. Want to charge for your mod? Make your own fucking script extender then, you greedy leech.
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I don't really care. If you aren't making mods for people to have fun with your creations then suck a dick.
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>>340834038
BETHESDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>340833965
>you've just never created anything worth stealing
lol since you seem to know my work very well, I should trust your judgement.
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