Should I grab this shit at -33% or should I wait some more
Does it still suck - I don't see anyone talking about it anymore
>>340742650
I've heard Alien hunters is a shit DLC that actually bogs down the game. I don't have it myself.
>does it still suck
It never sucked, it's a great game. What the fuck gave you the idea that it sucked?
>>340744506
After the hyped died down the consensus is that XCOM 1 is better
>>340742650
Wait for Shen.
You'd better hurry. You don't have much time.
>>340745073
I've never really heard that. XCOM 1 was good but it was also casualized.
>>340743978
yes the DLC is broken as fuck because they went ridiculously overboard with making the new alien bosses hard.
they completely ignore how the turn system works -- these aliens take a turn every time you make one action with a soldier on top of having 100+ HP
so for example, the Archon DLC boss uses his rocket move, and typically you have your full turn to move your units out of the way before it lands, but instead, as soon as you move one character, it's the Archons turn again so the pinions are guaranteed to hit all but one of your characters
What about overhaul mods like old Long war? I don't saw any project
>>340745696
That seems retarded tbqh.
>>340745073
Terror from the deep is the best one
However you will never see a faithful remake. The reboot is good even if its rng over actual projectiles.
Wait for the superior version that will come out for consoles.
>>340746468
it's not
it's like how they heard all the complaints about how the game is too easy late game so they decided to crank it to overdrive and put in some bosses that are just crazy
>>340745696
What the fuck. that's not even RNG fuckery at that point, its just a full fuck you to the player.
Did they ever fix the performance issues? and I dont mean I need constant 60 fps, I mean is it at least playable.
>>340746823
It is***
>>340742650
worst case, it'll be on sale again for the summer sale in less than two weeks
i feel like 40$ is still too much for this game, why do i feel like that?
Not as good as enemy unknown but if you like the series why not.
The game runs great now on my 660ti. I much prefer this title over the first nu-XCOM too, and that means something because I thought the first one was a great game.
>>340746659
What about Phoenix Point? We will look he at E3, maybe he turns to be a proper Xcom reboot
>>340742650
Vanilla is great, better than xcom eu/ew.
Dlc is garbage, the cosmetics just get in your way with punk rock spikes everywhere so you'll constantly have to tweak soldier costumes.
Alien Hunters is evil, though it might be good if you want a stupid challenge. As others have said the new bosses blatantly break the rules but I can see how having a challenging boss show up to ruin missions could be a good thing. Late game is way too easy.
>>340745696
they're not that bad
the Viper King and Berserker Queen are vulnerable to the Frost Grenade, it also works on the Archon guy but only for 1 turn making it near pointless to use and when they lose a good chuck of their HP they attempt to flee thru a portal and come back on a later mission without any HP restored so sooner or later you'll gib em.
basically dont trigger the DLC mission until you atleast have Mag weapons/first armour upgrade, you can kill the Viper King in the first mission easy the others will take atleast 2 or 3 attempts to bring down.
a specalist with Guardian is pretty nuts against them
>>340747152
Nah they already confirmed it will use the same action system as the Firaxis reboot.
Dont get me wrong, it might still be very good, it just wont have time units
>>340747261
Source, please?
>>340747229
i think the issue with the DLC is that it doesn't fix any late game issues at all
in fact it makes late game even easier because once you wreck these aliens you get even more OP weapons
>>340747328
Cant be arsed to start searching. You'll see it anyways when they release more information
Buy it the christmas sale earliest. I would personally wait for the full version, as it always is with Firaxis games
>>340746984
Because devs release with a shit ton of bugs and take years to fix them if they even bother to address them by which point you can get the GOTYAY edition with 50 DLC packs for $10
>>340742650
Casuals dropped it because its too hard for them
Many people dropped it because it ran like shit for a solid month or 2 after release
The rest dropped it because the Over-world is completely different from classic Xcom. Still a great change of pace from EU
>>340746984
It was one of the few recent games I felt justified a $60 tag, I really enjoyed it.
It did get too easy later on though. I haven't played it on the hardest mode yet but I can't help but imagine that just makes the beginning a drag then gets really easy lategame too just like in XCOM1 and EU.
My enjoyment of the base game was somewhere between Enemy Unknown and Enemy Within. The cosmetic DLC is jarring as fuck, the added bosses felt really out of place, and they kept talking over each other for the flavor dialog in the cave so I have no idea what the substory leading up to the third DLC is.
>>340748596
Essentially yeah, you get a wound/death on Gatecrasher and you might as well restart since the rookies just don't work with the starting gear.
>>340745073
>consensus
The only ones who said that were retards who couldn't deal with mission timers.
XCOM 2 is an improvement in every way.
>>340750019
the only thing that can fuck you up in the first 2 missions is a sectoid deciding to mind control, even with full rookies after the first mission its doable as long as the prior doesnt happen
bumb
>>340752851
nothing else is left to be said
>>340742650
Is the game still terribly unoptimized or have they fixed it?
I can play Witcher 3 with everything on Ultra but this game lags the fuck out every single time it zooms in, and I'm only playing on High.
>>340752851
I wanted this >>340753003
answered so I don't have to make my own thread. Needed to bump before thread died
>>340742650
Base game is too easy, all the cosmetics in the DLCs look horrible, Alien Hunters isn't very well balanced.
Pick it up for $20 with all DLCs in a year, plus good mods might actually come out by then if the mod community doesn't die.
>>340753003
>>340753102
They did fix some of the problems, but the effectiveness varied between people.
It's a great game, but it was kinda buggy and still might be. It's also the least optimized game ever created.
>>340747261
>>340747413
But at least they're adding location based targeting like I've been asking from tactics games since fucking Fallout 1.
They're planning to put MECs in their to be released DLC you should wait it out
>>340742650
It's a good game. Lotta mod support so you can make it as easy as you want it to be. I would still be playing it right now but during the first few weeks the game it had massive lag, loading, and stuttering issues. I had to put off playing legendary difficulty because I didn't want my save fucked up because the game was broken. By the time they fixed the issues I had already moved on.
>>340753264
>It's also the least optimized game ever created.
This. I'm getting better fps on GTAV.
>>340753740
GTA5 is hit and miss for people. It ran pretty good on my GTX 760, and then flawlessly on my 970. But I have a friend with a 960 who can't keep 60 FPS and has to cap it to 30 FPS to stop stuttering. Strange.
>>340753264
You never tried Saints Row II on PC, huh?
>>340754150
I have it, but haven't tried it. Only played it on PS3.
>>340753667
>It's a good game.
>When I played it, it sucked, but now it's fixed, I think.
>I haven't played it since the supposed fixes, but it's good, really.
nigga what?
>>340754150
Binary Domain was worse on release than SR2
>>340745696
Not only that but they give you super weapons to help you fight them for absolutely free which completely fucks in the ass normal stuff. Then when you kill the bosses you get stupid looking but broken armor that nothing late game can compete with. The difficulty of the game is in a ridiculous state of flux thanks to that dlc.
>>340742650
Easily my favorite game of the year, but I think some people on /v/ hate it, so do whatever you feel man.
>>340755140
>tfw did my gaylo run with the DLC for the first time on Classic Ironman
Fuck me, my only loses have been to those fuckers too
>>340746662
Just like how the XCOM EU was superior to the PC version, right?
Is this game worth it with the available mods?
The actual missions?
Nice variety and nice new enemy types and larger maps than EU/EW
Outside the missions?
EVERYTHING IS ALARMING EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME!
It's like if the 3 Abduction missions choice in EU/EW was expanded to 10 and it's permanently there with a whack-a-mole aspect.
Completed your mission? Great here's 3 more flashing things on your map!
>>340742650
>Does it still suck
>Implying
Long war is better :^)
>>340755853
I paid 80 bucks for it and feel like it was worth it pre mods, there are some really good mods out as well like an enemy variety mod
>It's a 'commander, 50 new VERY IMPORTANT events have turned up that you need to complete RIGHT NOW' episode
>>340742650
It'll probably go on sale in the summer sale which wont be far away. I'd wait desu
>>340757721
if they put it on sale right now its not going to go any lower
>>340742650
Get Jagged Alliance 2 for $2.50 off GOG instead.
>>340758124
GAME OVER MAN GAME OVER
In what other game can you kill aliens with waifus?
>>340742650
Xcom 1 with long war mod its like x1000 times better.
Xcom 2 its NOT even close to be like Xcom 1, a lot of shit was changed, and most of those changes weren't good.
>>340756143
A lot of them are just "go here and scan to get some minor reward" and can be ignored unless you need that reward. The annoying part is that it auto-stops scanning for every god damn thing.
>>340745696
seriously the DLC for this game has been absolute trashOP I bought it off G2A for like $30 in spite of it being fucking $80 in canuckistan, but then some polish nigger used my cc info to buy himself some girly shoes in france and racked up a $700 bill. I think I got it cleared off as fraud with my cc company, but holy shit I'm never buying grey market ever again
>>340758573
XCOM 2 has a better tactical game and an atrocious global game. Of course LW is better, though.
>>340742650
XCOM 2 is pretty great. If you enjoyed the XCOM 2012, you'll like this.
Don't get the DLCs. So far it's been cosmetics and a few boss ayys. Not really worth it imo.
>>340742650
>runs like shit, this may be fixed now but at launch it was chugging at 20 FPS on high end machines
>every enemy has a stun or is otherwise capable of taking actions away from you
>whole campaign makes you feel incredibly rushed, constantly going against the clock with no break
>classes have been changed but not really fixed, eg, the ranger is useless until you get run and gun as a lieutenant, medic is always better than hacker etc.
>the whole game is more interested in being hard than being challenging and fair
I wouldn't buy it unless it's $20 or less if I were you.
Post screens of your squad in action
>>340745073
Let me lay this out straight:
The original xcom game. The very first one, is better.
The first xcom game firaxis made is not better. It's still good, but it is not better than xcom 2.
xcom 2 is basically an improvement in almost every way over the first game. The problem is that it's pretty much just a polished-up version of the first game, it is seriously lacking in improvements that could easily have been made and should have been made.
Like, the entire turn system of the game forces it into a binary "You kill the enemy in one turn, or else the enemy kills you" style of gameplay. It's shit. Awful. There's some mods that help fix it, but nothing's really good enough yet.
>>340758925
meme team
:^)
>>340755573
Hey man I'm doing that too.
Shit is fun as fuck.
>>340753740
>>340753264
I'm playing on an ancient as fuck 660GTX and I get a good 60fps.
I don't have max resolution, turned down shadows a little bit, but that's pretty much it.
I heard it was unoptimized as shit at launch, but right now it runs pretty fucking good considering how old my gpu is.
>>340758925
Don't have any good ones in action. Do have some before and after action shots, though.
>>340759349
>>340758925
>>340756143
The problem I have with this is:
THIS IS NOT XCOM EU ANYMORE
I AM NOT DEFENDING EARTH FROM ALIENS
I AM TAKING EARTH BACK
THAT MEANS I SHOULD BE ON THE INITIATIVE
I SHOULD BE CHOOSING ATTACKS
I SHOULD BE ATTACKING THE ALIENS
SO WHY THE FUCK IS IT LIKE THE PREVIOUS GAME WHERE I JUST FUCKING SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR THE ALIENS TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN RESPOND TO IT?
They said they wanted to base this game around fighting a guerilla op against aliens but THERES NO FUCKING GAME DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT FUCKING SUPPORT THAT
It's literally just the first firaxis xcom game but a new coat of paint on top. I mean, that's not entirely a bad thing because the first game is pretty decent and the shiny stuff is pretty good, but ffs they could have at least put some effort into the actual gameplay design rather than just copy-pasting it.
>>340758829
I-Is that the Frog Soldier suit from MGS4?
>>340758925
I like it, but then again, I pirated it.
The first playthrough was more like a tutorial (duh), so you should learn as much as you can about the game before your 2nd play through.
I got really over powered on my 2nd playthrough and the game gets a little too easy, especially since all of the enemies are predictable.
>The false flaggers got bored
Good. Glad we can discuss XCOM again.
>>340759671
>literally the Halo: CE pistol
>>340760392
...Yea. I believe it's a mod.
I still wouldn't pay $53 for the game. Holy shit.
>>340760392
There's reskins for most of the weapons.
>>340760392
There is something called mods anon, I know I know "how can consoles not have these mods things?!"
Because consoles are shit
>>340760553
$80 (Really more like $90 with tax) in canada, which is just fucking ridiculous.
A weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
>>340760392
Yes, that is the entire point of the mod.
>>340759662
Yes.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=641364603
>>340759349
>>340759442
Damn.
>>340745696
There's a patch that came out for that. It's called gitgud 1.0 and is available everywhere.
>>340762828
It's shit gameplay design
We need a GITS mod
>>340758838
>i'm poor
>i'm bad at video games
>did I mention i'm bad at video games?
>i can't stress enough just how bad i am at video games
>this is the game's fault not mine
>>340745696
How about you don't group up your soldiers then
>>340762828
>enemies ignore the rules of the game for the sake if bullshit difficulty
>lil git gud :^)
Fuck off, the game is turn based. All your soldiers are supposed to move at the same time, but you move them individually only so you can actually do it. It's extrapolation, having the enemy move between things that supposedly happen concurrently is literally retarded.
>>340758646
G2A stole $40 from me. When I complained to customer services they banned my account.
Kinguin has been alright though.
>>340764025
It adds a new game play element, again, don't group up your soldiers. It's like the aliens version of reaction shot
>>340764151
Adding randomly appearing bosses is a new gameplay element, adding bosses that break the rules and logic of the system and who had to have super weapons thrown at you for free just to make the fight anywhere near fair is retarded design.
>>340758124
how complicated is JA2 when compared to classic Xcom?
>>340758646
>using keysites for new releases
>>340758925
>>340742650
Wait 50% at least.
>>340767041
Nigga I ain't paying fucking $90 for a game, especially when it's a rehash that hardly changes anything
fuck that shit
>>340754580
I mean if you reply and put words into my mouth then you have only yourself to blame when you think it's retarded.
>By the time they fixed the issues I had already moved on.
I'm saying my full 100% interest had gone because of how long it took to fix the issues. My enthusiasm dissipated and I had focused my time and energy into Fire Emblem until the issues were fixed. By the time the issues were fixed, I still played the game but it was a side game instead of my primary. I didn't have any motivation to spend 100 hours a week playing XCOM the same way I did with Fire Emblem because I had moved on. If someone would buy the game now brand new they wouldn't deal with this lapse of enthusiasm because the issues are fixed.
So Firaxis is going to announce a terror from the deep remake at e3, right?
They were laying it on pretty thick with that ending.
>>340768040
TFTD will be in the EW+ expansion pack they're going to do. It'll be a post game campaign with a host of new features.
XCOM 3 will be an Apoc remake
