What's the best Grand Theft Auto game for free-roam shenanigans and why?
GTA IV, no contest.
the most recent one will always be the best for pure free-roaming, since they improve the controls and the shooting with each installment. as far as actual content goes though GTA V is far behind San Andreas.
Modded 4.
Out of the box idk, maybe SA.
>>340650876
IV if you like fucking around with physics
San Andreas or V with mods for more variety in vehicles and locations.
>>340651018
GTA V doesn't have better shooting and controls than GTA IV.
>>340651138
GTA V has an RPG mod.
>>340650876
V or Vice City
>>340651226
what? the controls in GTA IV are incredibly stiff, and Niko has a leaning problem. GTA V still isn't up to par with modern TPS but it is much smoother than IV.
>>340651494
V movement happens without pressing any buttons, and to move backwards, the character moves forwards first.
>>340651494
IV's controls are a bit wonky but the game is still much better and feels more realistic
>>340651810
same thing happened in GTA IV, if you wanted to turn around you had to wait for Niko's animation.
>>340651018
There's more to it than the controls, it's more about what there is to do, how interactive the world feels, and how much fun driving/fighting is.
IV beats V in these areas because:
>NPCs will respond more realistically to your actions (e.g. cops don't shoot you for standing near them)
>Ragdoll physics are more dynamic, and NPCs seem more aware of their surroundings while stumbling around after being shot or stabbed (They might grab onto a nearby car or bench for support)
>Car physics are better, there's a more noticeable difference between large and small vehicles while you're driving them and when you collide with other vehicles
>Since you can't 1-hit every single person with ease, gunfights are a lot more fun
>The melee fighting system is more fleshed out
And various other little features.
That being said, IV's controls are still much more responsive and less grabby than V's.
>>340653249
There are some mods to improve this stuff in V but it's still pretty far from getting it right. I'm hoping R* gets the physics working again for the redemption remaster and RD3.
>>340653249
they're not. Have you played gta4 recently? Everything was improved in 5. The camera, the vaulting, the aiming, everything. It's all just a million times smoother.
>>340650876
5, although 4 is very fun to mess around in with the physics, and I spent at least 100 hours just drifting cars with a properly working LSD mod
>>340653249
5 has objectively better gunplay but the AI is too accurate even with mods
>>340650876
I wonder what the logic behind all thsoe covers is. There is a helo on the top left of every single one.
Also the shift from caricatures to realistic in 4 and onward sucks.
>>340655764
>Have you played gta4 recently?
Yes, and I enjoyed the fact that controls are much more manual. I noticed that the character i was controlling was doing exactly what I wanted them to, not moving around on their own that much, not running around awkwardly when i try to enter a vehicle or taking cover in the wrong place due to shitty pathfinding, etc. V's controls are good when they work, but they often force me to do something I wasn't trying to do, and that frequently got me killed.
>>340656164
GTA V's gunplay is boring as fuck. All the weapons feel and function pretty much the same and the npcs have shit for health so a short burst with auto-aim will take care of anybody. Speaking of auto-aiming, you can't free aim by holding the trigger half-way, so if your character keeps locking on to the civilians running around rather than the SWAT officers that are actually shooting at you, you're fucked. Your only option is to turn off aim assist altogether, which just makes it even worse.
V
largest world.
best-looking gta
1st person option without using a shitty mod.
>>340658162
But lethality is good for gunplay
And the only GTAs I ever played on consoles are the LCS/VCS and RDR, so I dont exactly have this problem with aiming
>inb4 hurr driving with a kb
In 4 and 5 its UNIRONICALLY better because you can easily control the camera at the same time, and its not like you need to fine tune your acceleration/driving, not even with real speed mods
>>340658292
>largest world
Quality over quantity
>best-looking gta
Graphics don't mean shit
>1st person option
is awkward as hell and doesn't really add anything to the game
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but those are some pretty shitty reasons.
>>340658610
The world is done pretty well though, certainly fucking better than SA that /v/ likes to go on about because they pretended there was a ghost in the woods when they were kids
>>340658509
>lethality is good for gunplay
That's a very broad statement. Not true in every case, and definitely not in a game like GTA's. It makes the gunfights very predictable and way too easy. You can just pop out of cover and effortlessly put a couple of rounds into someone without bothering to aim for the head or even the torso, rinse and repeat with all the other enemies in sight.
Using a gamepad is generally better for movement, using a mouse/kb is better for aiming. It boils down to preference on what you want to have an easier time with, but the controls with a gamepad in IV were serviceable at worst, not nearly as frustrating as they are in V.
what a nice thread
Something not mentioned is that GTA IV's cops are fucking phenomenal for behavior. They follow a grid structure on the last location and don't psychic-ly home in. Their driving mechanics are also decent.
>>340659419
Tbf poping headshots with kb/m in 4 was easier than in 5, only those swat dudes with helmets you took a bit longer to take down in worst case scenarios but even then a shotgun would make short work of them in close cuarters.
I still stick by my opinion that 5 has better gunplay its just that they fucked it up by making the enemy too competent at fighting back, crouch behind a car with 10 cops firing at you and in ~30 seconds they'll be done with you unless you quickly dispatch them
>>340659470
This is objectively true though, messing with cops in 4 was just perfect
>>340659786
quarters*
>>340651810
>using keyboard
On a controller, you can slightly push the joystick on the wanted direction, and the character will turn without walking. Pretty useful if you're on a ledge and about to fall to your death or something.
>>340660316
you can circumvent that on kb if you aim your weapon
>>340650876
Content:
San Andreas. Why? You can make kamikazi gang members with satchel charges and get a jetpack.
Interacting with the people and world:
IV. The ragdoll physics and more realistic reactions make for a more fun experience. Being able to push people down stairs and see them curl up to protect themselves is hilarious and just being able people alone was great. Such a shame V took that out.
>>340659470
There's also the fact that they don't shoot you for standing near them. They will not immediately shoot you if you point a gun at them and will instead order you to put your gun down first. If an npc is attacking you, they will arrest the npc, rather than just shooting them and leaving them to rot like they did in V. In most cases they don't shoot at you unless if you've shot at them. They generally act like police officers are supposed to. There's no "rubberbanding" either. If your car is faster than theirs, then they're going to fall behind rather than getting a sudden speed boost and catching up to you in a super car.
>>340659786
Felt about the same to me, the difference is that there's no need to aim for the head in V since, like I said, the npcs have such low health it doesn't make a difference. And of course shotguns were really effective in close quarters, that brings me back to my point about the weapons in V all being the same. Why bother using a shotgun when you can kill them just as quickly with an assault rifle at any range? And if you're facing multiple enemies at close range, an assault rifle is objectively the better choice in V.
>>340650876
All the 3D era games are clunky as hell and V is no fun allowed, so IV.
>>340650876
>shenanigans
What the fuck is that?
>>340661373
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shenanigan
Enjoying your summer break?
>>340650876
sand andreas
people saying IV forgot about the annoying shitheads that would call you and force you to either gimp yourself or spend time doing trivial bullshit mid roam, felt like a sims game.
>>340661830
Those calls are completely unnecessary.
>>340661830
This IV is objectively the worst game In the series.
San Andreas >Vice city >V>3>IV
>>340661830
You act as if you couldn't just say "no"
>That GTA IV autist in every GTA thread
Every time
3.
Because it was the best.
>>340662442
and in turn gimp yourself and lose favors, at some stages of the game not being friends with those assholes was really annoying, like the fantastic first impression when you first start the game and want to roam etc, and you can't even buy fucking guns without doing activities that were as if copied from a sims game like playing fucking dart. Yeah, that was exactly what I signed up for when I bought gta...
>>340662650
>hey guys here is a clip that shows that gta IV has slightly better animations when you are fist fighting
>gta IV better than gta V confirmed!!!!!!!!! hahaha :)
>>340650876
IV, SA, VC and III.
>>340662235
>3 great than 4
Now. Give it up.
>>340660978
>if you point a gun at them and will instead order you to put your gun down first
Huh, that seems like something no police man in real life would do. Even atempting to grab a cop's gun can get you shot irl
>>340662898
>>340662650
Samefag
Gta Iv was way better than 5 in tone and music
Objectively
EFLB>IV>SA>VC>V>VCS>LBS>III
From my personal taste and good memories
EFLB>VC>SA>IV>VCS>III>LBS>V
the worst opinion anybody could possibly have is to claim that 4 > 5
you are just being a contrarian at this point, its impossible to believe that the shitheap of 4 is anywhere near as good as 5 is
>>340663374
>that shitpost that doesn't actually talk about the games and is just implications
>>340663324
Stay delusional with your contrarian opinion.
>>340663374
>Providing no explanation or reasoning
>>340661830
How can you complain about the friend activities in IV but not the tacked on RPG elements in SA? At least in IV once you maxed out a friend's respect you could forget about it, even though personally I actually quite liked the conversations they had with Niko, IV had some good dialogue.
>>340662716
I'm actually playing through it right now, and God no. Don't get me wrong the game's great and it's interesting to see how they nailed down the basics with the first game, but it's terrible for messing around in free roam with how clunky the controls are and how blatantly the cops cheat.
>>340663496
It's true the IV is shit and it takes itself way too seriously. The only thing it had going was the car damage physics, that's it.
Nico is an emo faggot
>>340663317
>Even atempting to grab a cop's gun can get you shot irl
Are you implying that's unreasonable?
V shooting mechanics and driving feel arcadey as fuck, shooting is not satisfying and most of the time you feel like if you shoot anywhere other than the head you might as well be throwing rocks at them
Driving is made for children
Story is forgetable
Only interesting character is Michael de Santa and maybe Trevor if you get over his OMG SO CRUAZEY edgy actitude, Franklin does absolutely nothing interesting in the whole game besides the fence scene with Trevor
Endings don't make any sense
VC and SA. V is absolute shit sp and online.
>>340663778
Meant to answer
>>340663374
>>340663645
Niko might have been a whiny faggot at times, but he was ironically written better than all three of V's protagonists.
Saint's Row 2
/v/ has already spoken on this subject
>>340663704
he's implying the opposite actually.
>>340663704
No, I'm saying grabbing a cop's gun or aiming a gun at a police officer (much worse than just grabbing their gun) would and should get you shot in a videogame as well as in real life.
Therefore, the fact that in IV cops ask you nicely to put your gun down should not be used as a plus to the realism of the game and it's police AI.
>>340663801
>whole screen is brown
>Nico simply making a factual statement
You are just jealous of his magnificent jaw, admit it.
>>340664035
this image was made in ~2013, right? I bet now most people prefer IV over V.
>>340663935
This. I love the co-op.
V cause 1st person takes it to a whole new level
>>340664035
>The majority is always right!
>>340664210
Due to the hipster effect? Because IV was fucking garbage in almost every single facet.
San Andreas....the game that lets you duel wield sawed off shotguns, fly cars with the 50+ cheats, spawn tanks an fly em with the cannonfires recoil, fly around wit jetpack, jump bikes 40 feet in the air to do tricks off that bigass mountain, lift weights to get stronger, gang wars, recruit shittons of followers, eat to get fat if you want, even eat till you puke. Bang bitches ( first one), ect. Has a badass hoodlife aspect. The list goes on. AS VANILLA SA is best
>>340664210
>This can't be true, I'm in control
>>340663613
because on san andreas they were very few and very optional, you could become the strongest mother fucker around days after the first gym opened and those events when you had to go learn a new move were so far in between it did not disrupt the game play
in IV it was a much, much bigger aspect of the game and not so easily ignored or forgotten, it was forced down your throat over and over and for me it ruined the whole game.
it was the first time I failed to complete a GTA game, the first time I was disappointed, and I was really hyped too, the let down made me put away my console for a week.
the game had moved into an entirely new direction being closer to a gangster sim than the old casual fun sandbox game it used to be
>>340664250
>>340664210
I think it was 2014.
GTA IV has a pretty big hate base, especially from the PC crowd. V is the most popular release since San Andreas.
Obviously some people have different opinions. I for instance like Liberty City the most, other might like IV, but we're in the majority.
No way GTA IV is better than V.
Maybe EFLC but because those tried to be like GTA tone-wise instead of a pretentious HBO series wannabe.
The shooting mechanics in IV aged badly, feels clunky as fuck, same with the melee combat (Although it was never that great in GTA games).
Driving sucked, even the fucking developers admit that. And there's no reason to use boats.
Most of the missions sucked because unlike the other GTA games most of them were driving to x place, shooting gallery, escape, drive to x point and done.
The only thing GTA IV did right was the online sandbox, too bad it feels so fucking dull if you don't have more than 8 players (It's dead now too).
the only good thing about gtav was that it was surprisingly well optimized for pc
>>340664770
>the only good thing about gtav was that it was surprisingly well optimized for pc
That, and, it has the best map of any game by far
>>340663613
becoming fat from eating shitty chicken was just funny
>>340664035
>Red Dead lost to V
Good.
Red Dead is the most overrated game I've ever played
>That shitty color filter they used on IV
That alone makes the game near unplayable. And lel every GTA thread I've been in recently has that one contrarian claiming IV is better than V which is always a funny sight.
GTA San Andreas
>pedestrians riot cheat code
>all pedestrians have weapons cheat code
probably the best times I've ever had
>>340650876
GTAIV.
Swing set.
>>340664923
How can GTA V get beaten by GTA 4 or any of its predecessor?
>More weapon and weapon customization than predecessor
>More vehicle
>More air vehicle
>More character customization option
>Even better graphic than the shit moody graphic of GTA 4 (And if any single one of you tell me "But gta 4 with mods is beautiful and better than GTA 5!!" then GTA 5 mods blow GTA 4 out of the water
>Driving is more fun, more arcade but FUN!
>Density of NPC and vehicle
>Well-made map
>Better easter-eggs
>Better story
So what is the problems? TELL ME /v/
>>340665286
SA cheat codes were God tier, that's probably the main reason I put it above V.
>>340662650
>That autist who does nothing but greentext and dump reaction images
>>340664923
i did enjoy the map. i don't really care that there wasn't much on it. it was comfy just cruising around in muh '68 charger
>>340665161
>contrarian
>>340663507
>contrarian
>>340663374
>contrarian
You keep using that word...
>>340665286
Seriously, the new games are WAY to fucking stale any WAY to realistic. No flying cars made me hate both new games. No fucking innovation whatsoever.
Watch our TV shows!! While they are funny, I can do that shit in real life.......plus I hate tv.
Use the scripted lame internet!! Again, too much real-life shit. Just like most games now.....
>>340664412
>on san andreas they were very few and very optional
>in IV it was a much, much bigger aspect of the game
But it's the opposite, in SA you had to eat regularly, exercise to stay buff, etc. while the friendship bonuses in IV are just small things like calling Roman for a cab or Packie's car bombs, which can all be ignored completely.
Come on guys, we're talking about the best GTA for FREE ROAMING SHENANIGANS.
It's pretty clear that IV is out because you can't do much in free roam besides play with the physics and pedestrian AI.
>Not many cheats
>No vehicle missions (the vigilante thing was alright but there were a limited number of criminals to hunt down)
>Not many opportunities to get into gunfights with gangsters
>No post game content
V is better but is also lacking in post-game content. You can find random pedestrians all over the map to trigger mini missions with but those are also limited. Property management was a disaster, the jobs they had you do for them were basic shit and they barely feel like an investment because they cost so much and return so little. Some properties didn't even have any jobs for you at all. Oh yeah, can't forget about the lack of interiors and the police AI always preventing you from having any fun.
San Andreas is definitely the best for just dicking around on the map, if only because there is a quick way to prevent cops from annoying you: the good old Wanted Level cheat.
V with mods and editor on PC would probably be the best. PCucks win again.
>tfw still haven't placed through Vice City story mode
>tfw still haven't played GTA 4 Ballad of Gay Tony
>tfw still haven't played GTAV
>>340665518
Facts are facts. And that's more than one person you're replying to.
It is universally agreed on /v/ and outside of it that V is infinitely superior to IV. You could say that you personally prefer IV but instead you say it was a better game where most people agree it was a huge step down from SA.
>>340665286
>GTA will never have fun cheat codes like this again
why even bother making more
>>340650876
Vice City
Dat Soundtrack
Satisfying splat when running people over
Best Helicopter controls in any GTA game
Can dress up like Jason Voorhees and kill ppl with a machete
>>340665631
The greatest thing about this is that they actually tell you in game that you can do this. What a load of shit, if you were somehow bad enough to get your car turned over on its head in this game you deserve to lose the car and fail the mission/lose the race/whatever.
>>340665631
That's actually a nice feature honestly. Don't see why a car would blow up from flipping over.
>>340650876
San Andreas because of the cheats. Having all pedestrians riot while your driving a flying car that causes other cars to fly away when you tap them is just something the other games can't compete with.
>>340650876
1 and 2
>Specifically ask which game is the best for fucking around in free roam
>People start arguing about story, characters, mission variety, and other irrelevant shit
>>340665608
is right
>>340665883
>Samefagging more than of your posts
Pathetic
>>340651810
Who the fuck plays GTA with a keyboard/mouse? It's fine you're on PC, but ffs get an Xbox controller.
>>340666139
you can't do stuff like this with a controller
>>340660978
>They will not immediately shoot you if you point a gun at them and will instead order you to put your gun down first.
This is unrealistic since the game takes place in America though
>>340666139
He's cherrypicking any little thing he considers a flaw, why would he use common sense?
>>340666290
But you can if you aren't shit. No auto aim needed since that really isn't an impressive feat at all.
>>340665796
>GTA 5 is better because /v/ said so!
>>340666290
Well, the shooting/aiming is always going to be better on PC, but what about driving?
>>340666496
GTA V is better because I actually played through both games and found that it was a great improvement in nearly every aspect of the game. And the majority of people in /v/ and anywhere else agree.
Nice reading comprehension though
>>340666746
I read your post just fine; the only reasoning you've provided for why V is better than IV is because people on the internet say it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI
>>340667035
>Instead of explaining myself I'll just post a link to a video!
For a long time I would have said that IV is the better game overall, but recently I've been modding the hell out of V and you really can make it better than IV with mods.
A lot of people complain about the euphoria ragdoll being dumbed down, but that can be fixed by dragging and dropping a few files (https://www.gta5-mods.com/misc/euphoria-ragdoll-overhaul-ero)
There's mods to fix about every complaint that people had about V in comparison to IV, so with that in mind AND first person AND the more detailed world (although less interiors, but again you can use the map editor to load the map with all story-oriented interiors available) GTA V is the better game for free mode shenanigans.
>>340667035
i honestly like the OP punches of 5, but boxing with people in 4 is really fun too
>>340667018
>Because people on the Internet say so
GTA V sold more copies in six weeks than GTA IV sold in its lifetime. Keep in mind that was before it was ported to PC.
>>340667035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qUJc20yu28
san andreas is the best game, v is the best for free roaming
>>340667626
Do I really need to spell it out for you?
Just because something's popular doesn't make it good. By that logic, Call of Duty and Battlefield are the best games on the market right now.
>>340667885
We're comparing two Rockstar games you dense mong. One of the most popular franchises in Vidya, not as much people bought IV because everyone knew it was a huge downgrade from SA. All the fun cheat codes were removed, customization features were removed shit tier map, shitty writing and annoying emo MC. All in all a big let down from SA.
>>340667672
>>340667035
Use videos to back up claims you make. Don't just dump links.
>>340664324
>My opinion is always right!
>>340650876
It's Chinatown wars.
Samefagging a thread with shitty opinions isn't interesting. Please stop that.
>>340668294
>We're comparing two Rockstar games you dense mong
and?
>moving the goalposts
We're comparing IV and V, not IV and SA. If IV has a shitty map and writing, then V's are irredeemably horrible.
>>340669073
I agree that IV autist needs to neck himself.
>>340650876
yo yo yo!
SA 4 life nigga.
>>340665608
>GTA IV lacked side content
I hate this meme.
Not counting the main story, IV had:
>Street Races
>Taxi missions
>drug runs
>assassinations
>car jacking for Brucie
>vigilante missions
>stranger missions
There was plenty to do.
>>340669154
Your opinion is not fact or in the majority. GTA V had better Gunplay, driving, map, customization, weapon choice, a lot better looking, generally more variety in everything this is fact. Posting cherrypicked webms and gay tube vids won't change that.
How close can I turn Liberty City into Jew York in IV?
I enjoyed SA MP the most and GTAIV SP the most.
As far as free-roam shenanigans go I would say BoGT. Especially in mp.
>>340669465
Once again, popular opinion =/= fact
>Implying I'm the one dumping links/vids
There was some pretty good discussion earlier in the thread, people were actually providing reasoning to support their claims. Then later on the lower-quality shitposts started seeping in as usual.
>Gunplay and driving
Both are piss easy and boring
>Map
Sure, it's bigger, but most of it is completely devoid of interaction
>Customization
You get a few more outfits and hairstyles that don't change much in the end
>Weapon choice
Doesn't really matter since all the weapons function pretty much the same
>Better looking
Graphics mean fuckall.
san andreas being good is a fucking meme, its second worse only to 3
