>There are people on /v/ right now who didn't get emotional during the hypest boss fight of the past year.
It's like you people don't even have ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGaneyDfyls
>>340056167
Music was great, didn't "get" how it was supposed to be emotional though.
>>340056167I have yet to see a fight more hype than asriel dreemurr. to me that was the best final boss I've ever seen in vidya, regardless you can't lost to him
>>340056167
The *True* final boss was lame as hell, the normal final boss was hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcamjcoRmrQ
>8million views
fuck me what happened to the 100k?
>>340056353I feel the exact same way. The timing of the music coming in when the rainbows start up and the integration of his theme got me good. Also the transition into SAVE phase is the best moment I've had with a game in recent memory.
>>340056374
>fuck me what happened to the 100k
the memesters found out about undertale. glad I played it before the shit flingers showed up and salted that glorious fucking game so no fun would ever be had again
It's literally the Gurren lagann of bosses
best boss I've fought since that one shadow boar in Nier when the Emile track comes on
>>340056653
Youtubers were a mistake. Undertale should have stayed in the small cult corner it was made to fit in.
>>340056353
It's definetly up there, but there are games that can be better. A lot of Platinums shit is more hype than Asriel. Vanquish and MGR especially imo.
>undertale
more like overhyped-tale
when will this meme game die?
>>340057343
I've mettaton of assholes like you who don't know how to use Carlos. Quit killing the meme.
>>340056167
>babby's first bullet hell gameplay
>easy as fuck
>feels shit
no
>Hypest fight of the past year
Nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKDRsuABE-k&t=5m40s
>>340056167
Undertale is the only game that has ever made me cry, and what did it was hearing the guitar music on entering the copy of Toriel's house in the capital.
>>340056167
>>>/tumblr/ is that way.
>>340056653
just look at megalovania's comments, jesus christ
>>340058013
>>340056653
look at the comments of any fucking game and there will be undertale shit as the top comment
it blows my mind
>>340056374
>yfw part of ASGORE is from Toriel's boss fight music
>and whenUndyne is playing Alphys's theme on the piano
>>340057661
>mettaton
Not bad friend
Not bad at all
>>340056167
But that's not Soul of Cinder
>>340056167
The music in this game really is great. I wish the visuals were up to par.
>>340057826
>MMO shit
>hype
top kek
>>340058197
>Tumblr shit
>Hype
>>340057826
>MMO shit
>Shit all over the screen, you can barely see what's happening
So hype.
Music was cool, fight was ok, didn't give a shit about the character so I didn't get emotional.
>>340056167
Didn't find this boss that hype, OP, despite the great music. Ludwig in BB was 10x more hype for me.
>>340058289
Shit nigga, where did I claim that Undertale was hype? I'm just saying MMO shit can never be hype.
>>340056167
Was there anything to be emotional about?
>>340056167
I didn't get very emotional because I had no fucking clue what was going on since this game actually does a really bad job of telegraphing all the story elements until the parts it would be significant to know them in have already happened. It's impossible to get the full experience of the ending battle until you've already finished both routes, but then some of the magic is lost because you already now how it plays out.Going back to the first room afterwards was what did it for me, as well as flowey's new home sequence in genocide
>tfw I spent two weeks after I played the game religiously browsing the /vg/ threads saving every piece of fanart
>>340056167
Go back to your containment threads and stay there
>>>/vg/utg
>>340058079
Every single song in the game has connections to multiple other songs, barring Megalovania.
>>340058356
>Shit all over the screen, you can barely see what's happening
How does it feel to be 70 years old, Anon?
>>340056167
It was good, for sure. But best of 2016? Are you sure?
Its driving me up the wall people say this is the best game of all time. It was really good but fuck it wasn't -THAT- good.For 2016 perhaps but it hasn't had much competition. For 2016 indie sure.Pisses me off even more when people say Megalovina is the best boss theme ever, its not even the best in it's own game
>>340058585
Please show me the rule stating that one-off, specific subject threads can't be made about games that also have /vg/ generals.
>>340058639
MMO are casual shit tier, they've always been, they'll always be, even when I'll be 70. Now fuck off with your garbage.
>>340056167
>It's like you people don't even have ears
They have ears, they just don't have hearts
>>340058776
No more casual than the game in the OP. :^)
>>340058664
>its not even the best in it's own game
I dunno man, it's definitely up there.
To be honest I think Undertale has to be in my top ten games of all time.
>>340057826
Okay no.
This want hype at all.
Transforms / Power Rangers / Voltron / 90's robots nod was cool and all but this isnt hype. This is blatant fanboyism.
>literally cant loose
>no tension what so ever
Wow, such a great boss. 10/10. Fuck you, Undershitters. I like your game well enough, but you're all fucking delusional.
Hypest fights thread?
>>340056167
Meh, the two boss of the genocide route were way more hype with better musics and pattern.
Also >>340056374
There nothing that emotional about Asriel fight, it's just "muh friendship save the day" bullshit.Fatal Frame 5 final boss did it better
>>340056167
I was the most disappointing boss fight of the past year. I don't know why it had to be a scripted fight while having some of the most interesting bullet patterns (aside from the parts where you had to save the others).I'm still waiting on hard mode.
TOBY
>>340058836
And that's supposed to be a good thing?At least I didn't waste 1000+ hours of my life playing Uncharted ;)
>Le tumblr!!
bullshit
>>340058841
Oh yeah its up there dont get me wrong at all.
But there are a few other songs that really stuck out to me more. Namely Asgore and Battle Against A True Hero. I also really liked Your Best Nightmare for how well it captures the battle. But I dont know if that really warrants it.
>>340058952
lmfao wtf is that shit looks way worse than undertale
>>340058952
He should of been the last boss, much more interesting than Beast Rune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3epEVMNJdY
Better than Megalovania and Asriel's boss theme by miles.
>>340058930
>game is shit guys is super eaz
This a experience driven game, want hard mode? Name your character Frisk and get what you deserve.
It was fine. Not really all that hype for me but that's because I never really got into the plot or characters. I was really let down by the game being so much less dark than the demo made it out to be. The genocide ending isn't really the kind of dark I wanted, either. I was hoping for something more like the Jindies.
It wasn't a bad game, I just wouldn't call it all that memorable for me.
I got emotional over a different fight. A better fight.
https://youtu.be/XoGa10vYnXI
>>340059018
At least we can agree on that.
>>340058930
You can lose in a way, it will reset whatever phase you're in. You can lose to omega flowery too, it will crash the game
>>340057295
In this age of information, nothing is going to be in a small cult corner. Welcome to the new millennium, senpai.
That's not DJ Octavio.
>>340059247
Omega flowey too is scripted, but at least it feels like a real fight, unlike Asirel "Deviant Tumblr OC" Dreemur.
>>340056167
After Mother 3 and LISA it felt like nothing, i can feel one, maybe 2 times a feel, but not a third time, even less as a rip off
>>340059216
>headroll, the fight
>good
>>340058013
>just look at megalovania's comments, jesus christ
better or worse than the comments on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQt6jIKNwgU
>>340059081
>Asgore and Battle Against A True Hero
Yeah, those would be good choices for how well they capture the emotion of the scene. Of course, I didn't hear the latter in-game because I'm not a monster. Some of the others are better just as songs for listening though, like Dummy, Megalovania, Spider Dance, and Death By Glamour.
While Asriel's fight hit me right in the feels, Asgore's fight literally made me shed a couple of tears. It made me felt a type of despair that I haven't felt in a long time.
>>340059181
The experience is shit tho.
If we're going by the story alone:
Neutral 5/10
Pacifist 3/10
Genocide 7/10
The characters are too goofy or assholish for me to give a crap about.
>>340059478
>the characters are too goofy or assholish for me to give a crap about.
Pretty much this, the only character that i actually cared was Toriel, but the rest are a bunch of assholes, i just kill what i think i should kill
five
>>340056167
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qF-BGHhEpk8
Nah man, Photoshop Flowey was way more hype for numerous reasons. Once Finale kicked in, it was the perfect mix of that "Gaining the Advantage" feeling when Flowey's defense drops to zero, musical synchronization of Flowey's attacks, and the direct feedback of knowing I'm on more even footing when my attacks started doing actual decent chunks of damage. I could finally destroy this fucking insane demon-weed.
Everyone says the health mechanic was shit, but if Fox had only put that in after you saved all six souls I think it would've gone over better. The six souls would've been funneling you Determination and health items as you fought to keep you alive, eventually beating the ultimate evil by the skin of your teeth.
Plus, the actual transition from Your Best Nightmare to Finale was amazing, the dinky little melody of Flowey that was trying to peek through in YBN finally became a full-fledged track that was on your side now, spurring you on as Flowey became more and more desperate to defeat you. Fuck it's addicting.
>>340058702
Here's one
>"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/. This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /v/, just that long-term, recurring threads belong in /vg/
Nothing new is added to the discussion of the game, just another circlejerk.
/utg/ is still alive and well, go there for your fix.
>>340059337
Second best, just because the music was so fantastic at the end.
>>340059116
1v1 me nigga irl i'll knock your dick off. dont talk shit about the best jrpg on the ps1
>>340059708
That rule literally states that this thread is allowed on /v/.
DUDE
EMOTIONS
LOL
WHO NEEDS GAMEPLAY AND GRAPHICS WHEN YOU HAVE EMOTIONS DUDE JUST FEEL WITH ME DUDE CRY ON MY SHOULDER.
>>340058574
>>tfw spent a good 4 months on the /vg/ threads drawing requests
>>only regret is everyone running out of things to talk about
>>340056353
Except for the part where you can't fucking lose.
Seriously, the music and atmosphere in that last fight were good, but it tried to make me care about someone with next to no set up and the fight lacked any sort of intensity.
Undertale was good, but fuck man, the fanbase and the people that hate it take it to such ridiculous extremes.
>getting emotional
I don't recall feeling anything out of the range of existential dread or mild joy for quite some time now.
Yeah, I played through it and enjoyed the music for a while, but now it just feels like I've grown out of it, if that's still a thing at 20.
It was okay.
>>340059887
If there are people who "cried" at Undertale's finale, I can't imagine them watching Lisa The Joyfuls ending.
>>340059895
Post your art nigga
>>340056167
>hypest boss
>game is babby mode easy
>short as hell
>retarded furry writing
>looks like shit
>chiptune trash
Fuck off, underage.
>>340059454
>Spider Dance
I do not care for that song.
>>340059887
this
>>340059181
Hard mode is easy as tits.
>>340059708
So I guess we can't have anymore threads about the souls series either
>>340059887
This is what I hate about indie games
>>340058574
Those fucking first few weeks of Undertale threads on both /v/ and /vg/ were amazing though. The quality of the threads didn't really fall until around mid-october
>>340060036
>existential dread
What do you mean?
>>340056167
>Asriel
>Muh power of friendship!
>fight where you can't lose
>hype
>>340056167
>there are people that didnt fuck the pie
>>340060124
you should play it anon. its pretty good writing where it counts. Or you could keep that giant stick in your ass and hate everything forever.
>>340060321
now if only he could make gameplay like he made a story
>>340056167
When will this shitty tumblr meme game die out?
>>340060321
I did play it. Didn't do a playthrough where I fought transformed Asriel, but still beat it. It fucking sucked, but then again, I'm not a Nintenyearold, I can't stand the Earthbound games and JRPGs.
>>340060049
Lisa the Joyful's ending was harsh too, but it was about on the same level as Asriel or Asgore's battles. Asgore at that point was just a king with no way out of his situation who loved everyone, and you just wanted to find your way home. Asriel was just a child stuck with more power than he could deal with and couldn't feel anything until you start showing him compassion as well, and the scene with him as a kid showcased that well.
Buddy's scene with Brad in the Joy-induced hallucination was very symbolic, but fuck man that shit was rough. It's as if she knew deep down that Brad was just trying to help but she acted too hastily, and now had fallen too far to accept it, so she tried to kill him even when he was comforting her.
>>340060321
Well he's deliberately hating on it because he can so I doubt he'd want to, if he hasn't played it already. Honestly though I wouldn't reccommend the game for its writing. If I were to sell it to someone i'd tell them its a relatively light-hearted, decently polished pixelshit indie with
Semi-creative gameplay and fairly decent tunes.
>>340060304
>there are people who thought undertale was fucking corny kid shit
glad im not alone
>>340060135
Shit dude that is some good art
We need you in the Squilliam threads
>>340060026
yeah i don't understand why poochie goaterson comes from minimal foreshadowing and I'm supposed to feel a connection to the character
>>340056248
tripfag go
>advertised as having bullet hell elements
>if you get hit once you don't die
>you have healing items
>you can get hit many times and still fucking win
IT'S ALL WRONG
>>340056167
I didnt get emotional because I was too busy trying to not jizz from the game having the music synchronized with the events on screen, no matter what game that always gets me
Anyone else think a certain part of Undyne the Undying's theme sounds just like a Touhou song?
>You moved on to other games
>but Chara will always be with you
>>340060536
>but it was about on the same level as Asriel or Asgore's battles
Nah. Asriel was a shonenesque fight who, maybe, could have worked if you gave a single fuck about Asriel.
You only learn about him in some audiotape in wich he act like some kind of generic nice children and then he turn into Flowey wich is just an asshole.
Asgore was sad but not as sad as Joyful final fight. Again, it's because Joyful ending invole characters you knew for a relatively long time while Asgore only appeared at the end. But it was still pretty good, one of the only good story moment in Undertale.
>you just wanted to find your way home.
Nah, I also wanted to kill him to seal the monsters underground forever.
>Undertale
>good
Kill yourself.
>>340057886
>carbon copy of Toriel's house
>crumpled up butterscotch pie recipes in the garbage
The realization fucked me up.
>>340058952
Final boss was hype as shit too, but holy shit this fight.
>Unlike in the other fights you don't see nayone else but DeRosso
>suddenly Sage
>DeRosso just asks not to destroy his castle
>Sage just laughs it upSure, it was just a stomp roll because of Stillness but holy shit still
>>340061029
Chara vs Hero
Who is the better world destroyer?
Chara is the narrator throughout the entire game.
>>340059638
>but the rest are a bunch of assholes
They're all assholes
>Toriel - high horse riding asshole who didn't do anything until the last possible minute
>Papyrus - egotistical asshole who can't do anything right
>Sans - see Toriel but leave out "until the last possible minute"
>Undyne - knuckleheaded asshole who also a fuckup and lousy teacher
>Alphys - cowardly asshole who drags everyone down when she "helps"
>Mettaton - self-absorbed asshole who really only cared about himself
>Asgore - meek asshole who spend more time feeling sorry for himself instead of leading his people, only took the actions to make it easier for himself only.
>Asriel - naive asshole who couldn't read the obvious signs that Chara was bad news. At least he paid for his fuckups.
It's like Toby knew the boss fight would be shit so he made it flashy as fuck to compensate, and, as I'm reading this thread, it looks like it worked.
Hypest fight for me was Dark Matter from PSMD
Everything leading up to this fight, and the fight itself just got me pumped up in a way I haven't felt since I was a kid.
And the second phase music didn't help, either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5jpdiv1718
>>340061658
>Sans - see Toriel but leave out "until the last possible minute"
Perhaps replace it with "until it was too late" instead.
>Asriel - naive asshole who couldn't read the obvious signs that Chara was bad news. At least he paid for his fuckups.
Chara isn't actually inherently evil. You just make Chara that way by what you choose to do in the genocide run.
>>340061658
They all have character flaws as well as good traits. That's why they're well written.
>>340056374
I knew 2:07 reminded me of something, but I couldn't exactly tell what until very recently when I decided to replay Circle of the Moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPWuK0275Sc
pro tip: if you stare at op's pic long enough, Asriel's gonna start moving up and down like in the game.
>>340061681
Pretty much, also see Sans fight. People think that hard all because they lose a few times. It's like they never played anything where they had to figure it out instead of brute forcing it.
>>340061495
Well that's the implication for sure, but this stuff is left mysterious on purpose. We don't know if they're narrating all the time, or even if they're just changing how frisk observes what's going on.
Was chara ever even human? Did they only become a "demon" or whatever after death. The fact that they can take a human soul sort of implies they're not human anymore at least. I got the impression that both frisk and chara are actually "angels" like the prophecy mention, in that they might have human souls but they're at least part divine.
I bet some of you fags didn't even notice the 6 graves for the 6 previous humans at the beginning of the game.
>>340061942
>Chara isn't actually inherently evil. You just make Chara that way by what you choose to do in the genocide run.
I don't know anon. Someone who laughs when his dad gets sick and who tries to manipulate his best friend into killing people sounds pretty evil to me.
>>340056167
>there are people on /v/ right now who enjoy this piece of shit tumblr game
>>340061658
>the only monster who doesn't actually kill you if you lose to them
>an asshole
>>340061495
I agree and it makes the game a whole lot more interesting
>>340060674
Undertale is a "lore" game
It's a game where the lore around it is far better than the actual game.
You're not going to see much of the lore when you play the game, and even then its only bits an peices. to understand why this little guy is so precious, you have to remember all the information given to you from some tapes late into the game, trust what some NPC's tell you late into the game, know what is said about him hen doing the Genocide run, and after you beat him, walk 20 minutes back to the beginning of the game and talk to him, then walk another 20 minutes back to the end of the game.
It's the kind of thing that's precious in theory but holy hell only like 1 in every 50 fans will discover this on their own.
>indie pixel trash tumblrshit
>emotional
>>340062179
if you could name its weak points besides the fact that tumblr latched onto it a month after release you might dissuade someone
Asgore was a much more emotional fight in that game. You could actually lose to him LIKE YOU SHOULD IN A VIDEO GAME, and his character is much more tragic.
>be a pacifist who doesn't want to murder anyone
>have to either murder humanity so your people can prosper in happiness, starting with an innocent child
>or you let the child kill you, so your people can suffer in darkness for the rest of their lives
>do nothing, everyone is screwed
>still no son
>still no wife
With Asriel it's "get rid of this problematic videogamey stuff and make it a glorified cutscene". You don't earn a damn thing through his fight, and it's practically handed to you. That pisses me right off.
>>340056167
>there are people who played this shyte
>>340062142
>Someone who laughs when his dad gets sick
You're taking things too literally. "Laughed it off" doesn't mean a person actually laughs at it, it just means they make light of the situation.
>>340062142
>who tries to manipulate his best friend into killing people sounds pretty evil to me.
It was purely for the sake of saving the monsters from their awful lives underground. Still morally bankrupt, but remember that Chara is also a child who can make dumb choices and be easily misguided.
>>340062142
People laugh nervously as a coping mechanism, that's a pretty common thing. Also, Asriel is kind of on board with the idea and only has reservations about the whole thing once the humans see him. There was a post as long as a fucking thesis about the whole thing that discusses Chara from the Narrator perspective and gives a bunch of evidence from ingame sources about what they were doing and what their role in the game really is.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160526023417/http://thefloweryfanclub.tumblr.com/post/143284030397/greetings-uh-so-ive-been-working-on-this
>>340056167
I finished neutral and pacifist last week for the first time.
Very enjoyable game that while easy, knows how to pull your strings.
No wonder kids got very influenced (to the point of annoyance) by this.
>>340056167
Oh boy another false flagging thread. Why did /v/ have to devolve to this?
>>340062506
shit ms paint graphics
>>340062868
Go play your Xbone.
>>340062506
To be fair its gameplay is inherently flawed in a very slight manner. The Soul in the battle box moves faster diagonally than it does sideways or vertically.
Best boss fight for me last year was the Master in my Fallout 1 playthrough.
>that design
>that philosophy and motivation
>that build-up over the course of the game
>the ending music that comes right after
Instant classic.
Or it was the Soul of Cinder. Really great design and a real crazy twist. It felt just as epic as fighting Gwyn in the first game (w/o parrying) was, if not more.
Haven't played Undertale. What's so cool about Asriel? Can someone explain? From what I've picked up on over various threads he's like a king or something?
>>340062997
that's just vector addition. FPS did that forever
>It's a people still don't realize that Toby stole from Bravely Second thread
>>340063210
What did it steal? The horrendous storytelling? The casualized garbage battle system? The graphics that make me want to puke?
I believe it either way.
>>340063376
The gimmick of how heavily the story relied on breaking the 4th wall.
>>340063076
>Fighting the Master
>Not talking him into killing himself
Flaming dumpster-tier playthrough
>>340063076
Aesthetically, I think Monsoon from MGR is one of my favorite in recent memory. The boss mechanics themselves are alright but the music and overall aesthetic of the fight was...thrilling. Hadn't felt that way about a game in a long time. MGR itself is a pretty meh game but that boss fight sticks out.
>>340063210
>stole from Bravely Second
>stole from a game released many months after his game
>>340063495
I would've accepted "heavily relying on the story instead of good gameplay" as an answer too.
>>340059219
>durr hburr this remaster looks bad, better bla me it on the franchise
fuck off with this meme
it's a given every remaster will look like shit
>>340056167
Maybe if the gameplay was more fun and experience of the game more enjoyable, rewarding, and satisfying I would have played past the spider bitch but it wasn't. Shit was a chore through and through.
The gameplay is unfun and depthless garbage that is only there to serve the plots narrative and gimmicks. I've never played a game that's been so praised and not delievered on any front that actually matters before. I don't know how people managed to sit through the entire game.
>>340061942
Anyone have the link to that autistically long Chara analysis?
>>340060237
Good lord, the amount of people posting about 'goat mom' is what got me to buy the game back in September
Undertale is for cute fanart
>>340063709
Bravely Second came out in March of 2015 you idiot.
>>340056167
Some faggot never played nier
>>340062541
Asgore was pretty hype, going into him with no spoilers was probably the most enjoyable boss fight in Undertale.
>>340058174
Music isn't great its just fruity loops no instruments were used
>>340056167
That "fight" was trash. All the other finals bosses trumped it.
>>340063076
Asriel's boss fight has mixed reactions. If you plan on playing Undertale, don't read, it's best experienced as a surprise.Asriel is the prince of the Monster kingdom who was killed by humans, but he was brought back to life by Alphys as a sentient Golden Flower, but he couldn't feel any positive emotions such as compassion and love, twisting him up inside. He also gained powers to reset and reload saves during the revival process. So, after an eternity of living like this, he comes across the player character, Frisk, who reminds him of his pseudo-sibling, Chara, who died from buttercup poisoning. In the end, he tricks Frisk into bring all of his friends to one place, and Flowey then steals the souls of everyone, becoming a godlike being with Asriel's ideal form (like a deviantart OC since he is still a kid at heart, he never ages).
The fight is a bit polarizing because it's a bit easy, since due to plot points, dying has less penalty than usual, you just get sent back a few turns in the fight. Also, in the end, you're able to save your best friends' souls by calling out and finding them within Asriel, eventually pleading to him as well. With everyone's souls inside him,he begins to feel compassion again, since their compassion for Frisk gives him a feeling of it as well. He then projects his feelings towards his lost sibling Chara onto Frisk, causing him to break down and apologize, reverting to his previous, small-goat-child form, crying. Eventually after a few words are stated, including the reveal of Frisk's name not being the one you typed in at the beginning of the game (Frisk's name was never mentioned until now, you're led to believe your name is the same as the first fallen human's, Chara), Asriel breaks the barrier and frees everyone. But he can't stay a child and will revert back into a flower if all the souls are no longer in him.. You can never save him.
>>340059887
literal autism
>>340056353
Undertale itself has at least 4 bosses that are better than Asriel. And you can lose against all of them.
Is toby actually doing anything right now? Working on a sequel or something?
He made so much fucking cash of this game that he'll never need to work again, so I hope he does try to make something again
>>340064412
He's doing something. His Twitter said something about how his next project is "shrouded in darkness" or something. No one knows anything but for all we know it's like a prequel with Gaster or some shit.
>>340059887
Pretty much this. And the game made me chuckle and smirk at most from papyrus' child like anticts but that's about it, had to drop that shit because it was just too boring though.
>>340064072
Chara is a cute gril
Only a girl could be as murderous and sociopathic as her.
>>340064412
>>340064412
He is starting work an another project that was promised in the original kickstarter. We don't know much about it.
But perhaps...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx7XyYwRKiE
>>340064539
>>340064580
Do you know what the original promise was?
>>340064269
>>340063076
A lot of people didn't like how sudden the emotional parts of the fight were put in, as some people felt no real connection to Asriel and thus the emotional parts were fully wasted on them, making it feel hollow.
I for one felt it to be quite sad, but not the worst part of the game. For me, the most emotional part was the New Home segment before the story was told by the monsters, Asgore's fight itself, and most of Flowey's dialogue during new home in the genocide run.
However my favorite boss was definitely Omega Flowey, that shit was hype as all hell.
>>340064701
I donmt know if gems working on the Kickstarter thing but he did say there would be comics at some point. I donmt think what hems talking about on Twitter has anything to do with any Kickstarter promises.
>Hypest boss fight
>You can't even lose
It's shit
>>340058574
>/vg/
I browsed the /v/ threads before they went full cancer.
>>340064889the true lab was pretty fucking feelsy as well.Fuck alphys forever
>>340065124
>/v/
>before cancer
Those are antonymous, there's no such thing as a community that isn't cancerous at any point in time.
>>340064568
>chara
>girl
Chara is non binary you idiot
>>340065162
everyone knows an alphys or IS an alphys. Everyone has a strong reaction to her
>some character you were introduced to 5 minutes ago
>super hype
>>>/vg/
>>340065259
This is truly the epitome of Tumblr's greatness.
>>340065206My favourite pet theoryor headcanonIs that Frisk died from the fall, and what we play as is a combo of Frisk and Chara. How that character is, depends on how you play
>>340065334
Alright anon, tell me something more hype
>>340063857
Then why buy a ps4 since all it has is remasters and BB?
>>340061658
>Anonymous-judgemental faggot who can never have fun in a video game
>>340065259
>>340060135
Nice art
>>340056167
Genocide Sans made me more emotional.
It got me thinking how horrifying would it be to realize you're a character of a vidya gaem.
>>340065498
orphan of kos : BB
Brad : lisa
goat bitch : magicka 2
literally any other game were there's an established threat.
>>340065334
he's the first character you meet in the entire game numb nuts
>every thread undertale fags claim it's goty, best etc ever..
>get called out every thread with actual reasons and complaints
>B-BUT YOU DIDNT PLAY IT EVEN
>wow these threads really went to shit cause now it isn't a circle jerk!
Reminder undermeme won ZERO awards and was outmatched by car soccer, a superior game. Shit game made for furriest and autistic faggots alike, kill yourself faggots you're officially the worst group of queers to ever step foot on this board.
>>340065487
I think frisk being possessed by chara is cannon, pretty much.
>>340065883
>Orphan of Kos
>established
:III
>>340065781
He's more in a Cthulhu nightmare where the worst realities possible keep repeating and he's the only one who knows, and who knows who is doing it
>>340059474
>"I miss my wife..."
>"I miss my son..."
Fuck, right in the feels
>>340065498
the Final Boss of Steel Strider, if we're going by 2015 standards.
>going through the game with references to previous Astro Port games
>then fighting essentially the Megazord of the power rangers
>high flying battle with as many bullets as a touhou shmup on the screen
>>340065883
Add germahn to that if you're talking BB, fucking incredible boss
>>340056167
Why does Megavawhatever have more views when Hopes and Dreams is the better song?
>>340058013
>really like Live a Live
>hearing the OST one day
>mfw Megalomania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rf8Dj7PRAI
>>340065978
The relationship between Frisk, Chara and the player is pretty undefined. Chara is the text box, she describes items Frisk is the actual action. But Chara says the player resurrected Chara, so by how much is the player involved in this equation?
>>340059297
Except for all the indie games people make that dont sell.
>>340065987
>clear threat of an old god and having to sever the connection to the nightmare.
He could also kill you
>>340059698
This.
Flower fight is the most epic.
Asriel fight is the more emotional.
Sans fight is the most challenging.
>>340066000
I guess you're right mr dubs since Sans never actually breaks the 4th wall from what I remember.
>>340059708
And yet Senran Kagura has had daily threads for over a year.
>>340066075
BAD TIME SKELLY
>>340056167
kill yourself autist
>>340056167
How am I meant to feel emotional for a character that only appeared in the last 10 minutes of a game?
Someone explain why tumblr, reddit and rest of the internet cried over this part because I'm too autistic.
>>340065498
Not him, but Gwyn was pretty hype. He's built up the whole game and you finally enter the fog wall and... He's a weak, charred man who's barely any taller than you.
Also, Aldrich. Built up in an ominous fashion as you see his handiwork throughout the game and eventually culminates in a pretty insane twist.
Go back to tumblr.
I dont why you get the impression autistic faggots are welcome here. I assure you, they're not
>>340066229
Sans fight starts as the most emotional.
Then by the end of it you just want the fucker dead. I feel like Toby did that on purpose, so you'd feel closer to what Chara is meant to represent by the end of it
>>340066246
He looks right at the player after cracking his first puns, and seems aware that there's a force outside the game messing with it all. He knows about the player.
I've never even played the game and the music makes me emotional desu.
I have the soundtrack on my phone and any time "His theme" comes on I tear up
>>340064082
in japan
>>340066375
I really liked Gwyn too. You expect a balls to the wall fight, but you just get his husk with slow music.
>>340066586
The soundtrack version is sped up which kind of ruins it
What is the significance of Frisk being the only character who doesn't have a black outline?
>>340065924
The only reasons are lame "I give it a 7/10" opinions or "DUDE LMAO" memes
Honestly - I think Sans was a really great boss fight and better than any of the other fights. Obviously, this is usually the final ending people pick, and there's something humbling about getting your ass absolutely destroyed. 4th wall gets broken in a pretty good way.
I always felt like I would feel accomplished after I beat him, but instead I just felt empty.
>>340065623
>ps4 only has BB
oh boy it's another tired meme. just go back to using crisis 3 as a martyr, that was at least understandable
>>340066465
>Sans fight starts as the most emotional.
I think that's bullshit given what actually happens at the "start" of the fight.
>>340066751
I didn't even notice that
My questions is "what the hell is the difference between speaking with an asterisk or without"
>>340066751
They're bounded by the fourth wall and Frisk isn't maybe?
>>340066751
it was designed by toby's friend and he couldn't say "sorry but it looks like shit"
>>340066773
Point in case.
>>340065629
Why don't you go and cry about it on tumblr or /utg/ that I'm being mean to your waifu/husbando?
>>340066538
Eh, he'd probably pull some more meta is he actually KNEW that the being in front of him was a puppet for some intangible thing messing with him for its entertainment.
>>340066860
Eh, at least I felt that about killing Sans, the chillest dude. Then I just wanted him to die
>>340066778You don't need to feel empty, you did it!partner
>>340066416
(You) earned it friend
>>340066702
Jesus the Dark Souls fight with Gwyn was something else. I had no idea what to expect so I buffed myself the fuck up and made sure I was ready to go. And it just felt like bullying him. I didn't know WHAT to think. It was an empty feeling to say the least. 10/10 in my book, probably one of my favorite boss fights. I know a lot of people felt cheated out, but it was a good contrast to the assrape of the rest of the game.
>>340066751
He's human and all of them are monsters.
>>340057826
Don't post here ever again.
>>340056167
>need to kill everything to get a good final boss fight
Undertale made me understand why we kill things in games.
>>340066356
>a character that only appeared in the last 10 minutes of a game?
He was the very first character you met you dingus
>>340067306
oh the irony
>There are people on /v/ right now who didn't get emotional during the hypest boss fight of the past year.
>>340067306
For her?
>>340066751
Toby probably put it in as a stand in for an update since it was like the first thing he made but then grew fond of it
>>340056167
genocide is for normal people
everything else is for retards
>>340060036
>le depression meme
>aged 20
Just fuck off back to /r9k/.
>>340067173
I'm willing to buy this only because Chara's sprite also doesn't have a black border.
>>340056167
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon made me used to "Feels" in vidya, unfortunately.
>>340067831
you are a fucking retard.
>>340066751
I'm willing to say it's because his hair can't be completely black or it'd be invisible against a black background, so his lines were changed too for consistency
>>340067508
>want to play the game again
>can't find joy in playing pacifist mode again like the first time
>end up killing everything
At least I get to battle fish waifu and it's my favorite thing in the game.
So, what does Sans say to you if the first thing you ever do is a Genocide run without ever saving, loading or dying before you fight him?
>>340056167
I was hype until I realized you couldn't die
>>340061481The Batter
orMOONeven.
>>340056167
Asgore's bossfight was the best part of Memetale you uncultured swine. Unlike Asriel the entire game builds up to that moment from the very beginning and it's an actual bossfight that isn't a complete pushover and has a pretty neat twist if you've been playing pacifistic.
>>340069149
Who is MOON?
>>340056167
>>340069176
Thia. Asriels fight was just a wannabe ttgl sequence.
>>340056167
Anyone who thinks this fight was anything special are gay. It was the cringiest shit I've ever played, and the music just made it worse.
>>340066181
this makes sense to me because when Chara actually talks to you at the end of genocide he doesn't use a text box
>>340069248
Play Space Funeral
Why neo /v/ is so fucking in love with memetale?
Is shit, sjw and only faggots play it
>>340069149The Batter
Noice
>that first week of discussion about the game which had pretty much none of the autism that infests the generals and threads now
It was fucking beautiful. Then the furshits and memesters appeared followed closely by the haters.
>>340056167
I haven't followed this game since like 2 months after it's release. Did it get patched/updated AT ALL? wasn't there supposed t be a comic and smarthphone alarm app and all this other shit according to the kickstarter tiers?
>>340070124
It's cheap and easy. Most teens aren't in contact with literature or decent films, hence their values for visual, musical and emotional entertainment is low.
There, now fuck off memester, complaining about things other people like won't make you less shitty.
>>340065259
>only white people are the two villains
Such masterful wit, Tumblr.
>>340057661
>quit killing my reddit meme
>>340067508
Great post, partner!
>>340070461
There was a patch that fixed a bug with steam, and enabled some Gaster easter eggs such as him flashing on the screen randomly when you start the game.
With the sucess of undertale we are only going to get even more lazily made indie trash with 3deep5me stories and stupid fucking memes i wish i could make a time machine and kill toby fox
So why was the ABSOLUTE god of hyperdeathso fucking hot?
I played Undertale and just don't get what the hype is all about. Is it just babby's first "story-driven" game with some minor gameplay?
>>340060026
It would have been fine if the game started you back at the beginning of the fight, but I guess they didn't want to bother ruining the pacing by having shadow the goathog spout the same lines and reusing the same moves. What we got felt more like the ending of FFX in a bad way.
>>340066897
It indicates the start of a sentence on that line.
Unless you mean Papyrus not using them at all, that I don't know.
>>340070694
>>>/vg/
>>>/trash/
Seriously, fuck off.
>>340070415
What was the best part of those early threads and why was itgetting to see people's reactions to Flowey crashing the game and the bossfight that follows
My friends were screaming about this game months ago. What does it have that Touhou doesn't?
What's your favorite easter egg in Undertale?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDdiZxojMQI
>>340071329
A plot and characters
But it has 0 difficulty
>>340071473
>touhou has no plot and characters
when will this meme end
>>340070720
you have to be a teenage autist with mommy issues to get muh feels ;_;
>>340057661
I'm dead
True Lab was fucking spooky and Asgore's fight is kind of tied with Omega Flowey for best boss fight.
In terms of the fight itself, Asgore is far better, but Omega Flowey almost entirely compensates with how fucking unexpected and mindfuckey the whole thing is.
On the pacifist run, walking into Asgore's home with that music and all the monsters telling you the story was the only part that made my eyes sweat. That shit was feelsy as fuck.
>>340066751
what's the significance of his fat fucking left leg
>>340071106
It's not just papyrus, a number of characters speak without asterisks
>>340060318
How do you get the good ending?
>>340059297
Cult games still exist in large numbers. It's just that the risk of something being dredged up for the horrible masses has increased a good deal.
Risk of Rain (debatable), Vtm:B, the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series, EYE Divine Cybermancy, are all good games with incredibly small cult followings. There are many others as well.
>>340061658
>muh "characters can't have flaws" meme
Hate the fanbase or the game all you want, I don't think anyone can deny that Undertale had a fucking killer soundtrack
>>340073434
>Vtm:B
until the new game comes out
>>340073434
>the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series
dead series
>>340074815
It's just chiptune. A lot of indie games have better music.
>>340075338
>just chiptune
Granted a lot of it is, but there's a lot more going on than that
>>340075338
>genre of music determines quality
t. idiot
>>340075594
Yeah, it does. Why do you think all RAP is shit? It can't be because its just a bunch of niggers screaming into a headpiece, right?
>>340075803
t. typical /v/ music pleb
>>340071696
That part at the very end of that segment where the music changes to a higher key, and three early monsters appear and each one says "Asgore will X" and its like "set us free, give us hope" That one really got me.
>>340075338
You are not wrong with one of those things. Undertale'S OST is just chiptune and pretty decent most of the time (Faggots hype it up 'cuz they don't know better most likely), but there are many other indie games with way better OST.
>>340075594
I never said that. When you have one guy doing everything, everything will be unpolished. Some music is reused from a previous romhack, and the actual composition is really bland.
>>340075409
Toriel song in the ruins was pretty good.
>>340056167
I wanna fuck that goat
>>340060756
REES has probably been here longer than you
>>340077574
Not gonna lie, I may have a gay crush on adult Asriel. I'm straight though
>>340076271
Nah dude, Undertale's soundtrack is one of the best in Indie Game standards
>>340078338
I know that feel.
>>340058574
>tfw you contributed to early /vg/'s fanfic archive
it wasn't adult, so I decided not to kill myself, but I live with the crime each day.
>>340071000
I thought the fight was fantastic, but that's because the only time I died was right near the start when his moves caught me off guard.
>But it refused
>Beat his ass
Yea it was a fun fight
>>340059181
does hard mode even exist passed Toriel?
>>340056167
Who? No, seriously. That's how I felt going into the fight.
>>340056167
Post your rare goats /v/
I need to expand my folder.
>>340056167
Not even in the top 5 hypest boss fights IN HIS OWN GAME.
Flowey > Sans > Undying > Mettaton Neo > Asgore > Undyne > Asriel
Why do people say this game is hard
I mean, I played it and it's pretty much "baby's first bullet hell"
I saw all that hype when it came out, tried it and it's probably one of the shittiest game i've ever touched. Massively overhyped.
>DISCREPANCY DETECTED
>>340079779
You're the shittiest person that no one has ever touched
Personally the part that caught me off guard emotionally was this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OqigCz2S1w
>This music
>The monsters coming out of nowhere to tell me a story
>Asriel story
>mfw
>>340062506
shitty incoherent story "you have to do the thing" that gets slightly fleshed out before the final boss" there is actually a dark twist to the thing", every character was a shitty tired cliche except 2 or 3, gameplay is piss easy and not fun at all
>>340079779
>>340080095
play nice, girls
>>340080095
>Implying I don't have a gf
Anon, stop projecting
>>340056167
If I can't lose, it's difficult for me to remain invested. If what I do has little importance, give me a damn cutscene instead.
The music was good, but the whole "power of friendship" was lame as hell. I hate when anime pull this move, and even more in video game because of how little it has to do with the gameplay and usually the plot itself. It was the worst final boss of the 3 endings.
>>340070552
>rarely if ever used outside of 4chan
>but you don't like it
>r-reddit!
>haha do I fit in yet guise?
King Dedede in the first game boy´s Kirbby:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcePF8gyhs8&list=PL12F1D553F43153C0&index=7
>>340083103
This just brought me way farther back than I ever had any intention of going
>>340056167
Asgore was the only good boss.
It's one of the few times where characters blatantly "un-hype" a boss by telling you he's a pushover.
>>340058621
And Stronger Monsters, and Wrong Enemy.
>>340064493
>that filename
>>340064237
You're saying Toby should've had access to a symphonic orchestra or not tried at all?
>>340056167
Subpar game. Good music.
>>340081584
>Boasting about superior taste
>While avatar fagging
You're not fooling anyone
I guess I got emotional, I was laughing a little bit because the whole thing was so hokey. You've got the power of friendship, you can't actually die, Asriel is just this massive original character lookin' homo who's spraying rainbows everywhere, and I only remember the dialogue being stupid but no specifics.
I'm sure the music was all right but it must not have left much of an impression on me considering I can't remember it, or most of the music in the game.
It was dumb, not really the endearing sort of dumb, but the sort of "is this actually happening" dumb.
>>340084728
>Implying avatar fagging makes my point any less true
Nice try anon
>Room before last boss
>Walk up to a coffin
>It has your name on it
>It's empty
The entire castle "level" was great
Music was great
Graphics were awful
Gameplay was poor, straddles the line between visual novel and RPG without being competent at either. The VN side lacks in choice and the RPG side lacks in character building and options.
Story is bad in a single playthrough, good over multiple
It's alright. Could be much better though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhs3Q7-kLHs
TODOKETE
>>340085963
>Gameplay was poor
How? Most turn based RPGs are literally just mashing the select button until you win
At least Undertale had you manually dodging attacks
>>340086368
Sounds like you play some shitty RPGs.
It's missing skills, spells, talent trees, buffs and debuffs, party members, tactics, positional damage, combo attacks or damn near anything that could make an RPG interesting.
>>340062650
>he hates it but literally hasn't even played it
>>340056167
I didn't because that route of the game is emotionally manipulative as fuck and negates any outcome of the normal route, which is much more interesting.
>>340086601
>skills, spells, talent trees, buffs and debuffs, party members
None of that changes the fact that you just hit "Attack" and then wait a while, and then the game decides if you can dodge or not randomly
I can't get into any fucking RPGs, not even FF7 or Earthbound because the gameplay is so fucking tedious and boring
Undertale at least had the decency to let you dodge on your own and even focused most of the gameplay around it like a bullet hell
>>340087054
>Undertale at least had the decency to let you dodge on your own and even focused most of the gameplay around it like a bullet hell
Then you like it because it's a shooter?
It's a shit shooter too, mate. It lacks power-ups, shooting modes and doesn't even play at 60 FPS.
It's a combination of a bad VN, a bad RPG and a bad shmup. I admit that's an interesting combination but the final result is a jack of all trades but a master of none. Each aspect of the game is barebones which makes the game unfun to play.
>>340087054
Not even that guy, but your only argument against him is that you can manually dodge. If you're going to win the argument you need to step up.
>>340059887
there are plenty of video games out there, it is not some crime against humanity that some of them decide to focus on different things. it's not like toby would have suddenly decided to make a hypergraphics gameplay bonanza had he not made undertale.
>>340087413
What I'm saying is that 99% of turn based games suck ass
>>340056167
Asriel = another name for Azriel (AKA Izrail, Azrin, Izrael, Azrael, Azrail, Ezraeil, Azraille, Azryel, Ozryel, or Azraa-eel), a Hebrew Angel/Demon, the God of Death, and some say he is the same entity as Sariel (AKA Seriel, Sauriel, Surya, Saraqael, Sarakiel, Suruel, Surufel or Sourial), demon son of Lilith and Samael, the blind God, who also identifies with the Angel Metatron (UNDERTALE's Mettaton). Yet another deity associated with Azriel is Raziel, and some believe they are the same being. Raziel (under the alternate name Galizur ("Revealer of The Rock")) is described as the "ruling prince of the 2nd Heaven." He is said to expound the "Torah's divine wisdom," and protects the ministering angels from the Hayyoth (four-faced anthropoid beasts), the "holy Creatures" that uphold the universe. He is the Archangel of the Ophanim, the wheel angels.
UNDERTALE is Jewish mysticism propaganda. Toby Fox is, quite literally, a Jewish shill who secretly tries to normalize the Hebrew Satanic cult of Remphan and Moloch and make it accessible to children.
Gas the kikes.
>>340056167
I just beat the Matador in Nocturne and it was more hype then this garbage.
>>340087525
Then why make Undertale one of them?
>>340087705
It did something different instead of being lazy and making the same boring battle system everyone else uses and that's good
>>340059116
I don't know if this is bait, and if it is good job, I'm mad.
>>340079428
>neo
>hype
EX is infinitely more hype than "one hit: the boss"
Neo made no fucking sense when EX was introduced as being invincible to anything except Alphys' cellphone gun
>>340087864
It didn't do anything different I just took things from multiple genres and frankensteined them together.
There's not one original mechanic in Undertale.
>>340087645
Aw yeah
>>340087997
It's original that an RPG did it
>>340056167
ASGORE was way better.
Great music, great atmosphere. Breaking the Mercy button was an amazing start. Set up to be a ruthless killer by Toriel and you get bait and switched, realizing you have to kill a reluctant, tragic figure in the one true instance of Flowey's mantra.
>>340083103
I know kirby is a light hearted game despite all of the kirby is a monster memery, but dededes theme always made me feel for that fucking penguin. it just makes me feel like dedede wants so desperately to be better than kirby. I mean shit he TAUGHT HIMSELF HOW TO FLY LIKE KIRBY. A GOD DAMN PENGUIN TAUGHT HIMSELF TO FLY\
also masked king theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugn2Ly8pQxk
>>340088135
I am convinced that the only way you could think Undertale is a good game is if you have so little experience with games you've never played an RPG with better mechanics or a shooter with better mechanics or a visual novel with better flowcharts.
Undertale does everything poorly, it just does a lot of things and overwhelms idiots.
>>340058574
>>340078478
I did the same.
At least i bought the game before i could get more spoilers than just "Don't kill anyone", which i still did because i hate playing by someone Else's standards.
>the first time you saw the bad time
Man that was pretty fucking wild. Really is a shame that so many people got spoiled before they saw that
>>340088453
>This game isn't as good as this other game therefore it's awful
That's a bad mindset to have
>>340088453
idk famalam the game is pretty good at making you upset so that's one thing it does better than other RPGs
>>340088665
That's not what I said. I'm saying
This game isn't good at any one thing it tries to do.
It spreads itself thin and suffers from it.
>>340088743
I'm so upset right now you can't even imagine.
Treats are flying from my eyes.
>>340088830
It's still a fun game
>>340088830
It sounds like you read a post by someone claiming Undertale is the greatest game ever made and then set out to prove them wrong by refusing to enjoy it for what it is.
>>340089067
I disagree. I got very bored during the waterfall and hotlands sections because they were just uninspired dungeons with nothing interesting in them. The majority of this game is pure tedium between interesting cutscenes and boss fights. If it had more gameplay systems it could fill that tedium very well.
I'd argue that this game is too long but that seems absurd since it's already a 5 hour RPG. So instead I'm arguing that it's to shallow in terms of mechanics.
And I agree that pooling from multiple different genres makes this game interesting, but it doesn't automatically make the game good.
>ctrl+f
>no general Tor
>>340089435
I just think it had boring gameplay and drags.
It's a good experience if you play through all of the routes and get all of the story but I can't recommend anyone doing that because playing the game three times over is super boring.
I bet a lot of people just resorted to youtube rather than replaying it themselves because the game isn't fun.
>>340058574
>>340060237
>>340065124
>>340078478
>>340088507
WE HYPED BECAUSE GOAT MOM AND WE CREATED A MONSTER.
IF I THINK TOO MUCH ABOUT IT I CAN'T SLEEP,HELP ME.
>>340089439
>I got very bored during the waterfall and hotlands sections because they were just uninspired dungeons with nothing interesting in them. The majority of this game is pure tedium between interesting cutscenes and boss fights. If it had more gameplay systems it could fill that tedium very well.
That describes any RPG
>>340065259
obligatory
>>340090195
No.
Good RPGs constantly introduce new mechanics, new spells and new characters.
Bad RPGs tail off early and drag.
>>340090394
>Good RPGs constantly introduce new mechanics, new spells and new characters
Undertale does that
Every boss has a completely different battle system
>>340090654
No it does not do any of those three things.
>>340090394
>Good RPGs constantly introduce new mechanics, new spells and new characters.
>new mechanics
>Soul weighed down and having to jump over attacks against Papyrus in Snowdin
>Soul unable to dodge attacks and having to block attacks using a movable shield against Undyne in Waterfall
>Soul restricted to a few lines and having to switch between the lines quickly to avoid a variety of attacks against Muffet in Hotlands
>Soul gains the ability to attack even during the defense phase, allowing you to shoot obstacles and attack the enemy against Mettaton in the Core
>news spells
>Snowdin replaces all previously existing enemies with new ones
>the new enemies each have their own magic attacks, or "spells" that you have to dodge in different ways than the previous ones
>so does Waterfall, Hotland, and the Core
>Snowdin introduces blue attacks, which you can avoid taking damage from if you stand still even if you come in contact with it
>Hotlands introduces orange attacks, which you must be moving while in contact with it to avoid damage
>once introduced, these new types of attacks can be found in random encounters throughout the game
>new characters
>the Ruins sets up late game characters
>Snowdin introduces Sans, Papyrus, and the monster kid, all of which have roles to play in at least one later segment of the game
>Waterfall introduces Undyne, same story
>Hotlands introduces Alphys, Mettaton, also same story
Honestly, I don't know what you expect from the game. It has everything you listed as the requirements for a good RPG.
>>340092363
>Underground
>Meet Toriel
>Introduces red heart fighting
>Snowden
>Meet Sans
>Introduces blue attacks
>Later Snowden
>Meet Papyrus
>Introduces blue heart fighting
>Waterfall
>Meet Undyne
>Introduces green heart
>Hotland, Alphys and Mettaton, yellow mechanics
>Later hotland, Muffet, purple mechanics
It constantly introduces new shit, that's it's main gimmick