>Be good at Soldier in TF2
>Suck ass as Pharah in Overwatch
MOTHER
FUCKER
>>339632342
>Be the best Scout player in the North American region
>Tracer is one of my least favorite classes to play
WHY
>>339632342
>>339632645
becuz is not tee eff two nigga
>>339632645
You are not the best in NA. I know the guy who is. Show us your steam id.
>Master League in Starcraft 2
>Lose every game where I try to play D.Va
wtf??
>>339632645
Get off /v/ clockwork
>be good at street fighter
>realize that this is a completely different genre and my skills don't carry over at all
FUCK
>be 5'2 engineering student
>get killed every two seconds as Tobjorn
How?
>>339632876
https://steamcommunity.com/id/meeoowmeeoow
<3
>Not good at any video games
>Good at Overwatch
Nice
>>339632342
Keep it to a fee threads you spamming Overshilled faggots
Also not your blog
>>>/vg/
>>339632342
Why is she dressed like the Blue Falcon?
>>339632645
How does one even play tracer? I wanted to play her or Mei, but I don't understand how tracer works while being so weak.
>>339633828
>flank
>target squishes
>recall out of danger
>repeat
>>339632342
>mfw mediocre at Soldier
>mfw good at Pharah
>>339633697
That was the first thing I thought when I saw her. 100% Blue Falcon.
>>339632982
because d.va is dogshitand yet i like playing her
>>339633828
your job is to be going sanic speed at all times trying to backdoor squishies and being a cunt in the backline
I don't even like Pharah that much
what is this
Soldier has his shotgun to fall back on and finish people off. Pharah has to kill with the rockets or else.
>>339632342
same lets break down why pharah is ass
both have 200 hp but Sol can get 220 with bb
there's also overheal in TF the has "armor" and "shield" which are kinda a replacement but let's be honest Pharah is mainly for attack and you're not getting a Torb or Symetra on attack so there goes your hp bonus
while Pharah's rockets do 120 which is more that sols 112 with Direct hit the sols DH doesn't actually require a direct hit to deal a good chunk of it's avg damage Pharahs does
Sol has better escape options because of boots or escape plan speed Pharahs jets have a fucking 10sec CD while someone like winston has a 6
you fall slower in OW than in TF2
Sol has a shotgun option in a pinch (long rocket reload or scout etc. ) Pharah has a fucking 8 sec "knockback" weapon that does NO damage at all (it's good on maps like Ilios and Nepal though )
fuck this character I lover her so much but after the conversion it's clear Sol is better than her in EVERY way possible
I doubt Blizz will buff her but if they do maybe they need to see why Soldier is such a staple in TF2 and ALWAYS a good pick
>>339632342
>OP assuming the power armor is for frontline duty and not for flight and harassing the shit out of the enemy
>>339635360
how are you harassing shit when the rockets are easy as hell to dodge from a distance and have an pitiful amount of splash?
flying with Pharah is a death sentence if the enemy team has hitscan on there team which is MAJORITY of the OW cast.
She flat out sucks at how Blizzard wanted people to play her AND she sucks in how you're supposed to play her by meta standards
>>339633828
Get behind them. Shoot a few times. Dash out of the way, rewind if you get hit.
>Demoman was my favorite class
>Korean and watch a bunch of /m/echa
>Dva and Junkrat are two of my favorite characters
>>339635628
thats because your supposed to sneak up on them. I am a beast at Pharah because i am squirely piece of shit that doesnt like staying in one place. I fly all over the place and rain justice from above with my mother fucking missles and i sneak up on enemy counters and put rockets in there asses. The key to playing Pharah is constant movement and the element of surprise.
>>339633828
>lmb
>shift
>lmb
>uh oh im almost dead
>E
>OK I've got full health again :^)
>lmb
repeat until whatever you're shooting at dies
>>339634385
She isn't dogshit, but she needs a buff to her ult. That shit used to kill everything near a payload, now the fucking floating car is able to block the entire blast. That is not OK.
>>339636014
stop lying to yourself nerd. you're shit.
also quake 3 died for your sins.
>>339633828
You have to gauge the EXACT moment they have you in their crosshairs, then blink to an unexpected location. A lot has to do with being faster than your opponent.
>>339636549
Go fuck your mother! You people are the reason this board is shit
>>339636549
if pharah played anything like quake 3 I would play her non-stop, with her cool skins and jetpack she would be perfect. Too bad she's slow and has a small af blast radius.
>>339633828
Pubs have a really bad habit of chasing after Tracer
Harass them, run away, watch as your team shoots them in the back and wins
>>339636730
no the reason this board is shit is because people are playing overwatch instead ofgetting gudat literally any other game.
Can they give Pharah 25 armor? I don't see why Mei has more HP than Pharah
I never liked tf2 apart from the pyro, sniper and medic.
I really like overwatch.
>ANOTHER THREAD
>>339636983
Becasue Mei is thicc
>>339636983
Because she's fat.
>>339636860
"ROCKET JUMPS? WHATS DAT?" - pharah.
>uninstall
>>339636983
mei has blubber health
>>339637051
>>339637060
>>339637136
Thicker than Pharah's armored flight suit?
>>339637193
She didn't fly so good.
>>339636983
I don't see why Mei is even in the goddamn game
>Frost stream can't be blocked, can hardly be ran away from; pretty much requires flight or a teleportation/dash
>she can freeze herself invincible and regenerate health
>ult works just like frost stream
>always fucks up her own team with shitty ice wall placement getting them trapped and killed
fuck Mei
>>339636860
>Pharah
>slow
Concusion blast isn't just for enemies. You can move halfway across the map with her
btw overwatch just downloaded an update a second ago for me not sure what's in it
>>339637264
>deals barely any damage
that's why
>>339637294
I mean general movement speed, quake 3 is always fast, while what you're suggesting is that you just rocket jump to go fast.
>>339632342
How am I doing /v/?
>>339636860
bunnyhop hero with five different guns when
>>339636532
She needs either
A) Secondary medium range weapon
or
B) Normal walking speed while firing
>>339632342
>He fell for the TF2 Soldier = Pharah meme
>>339637463
If you're not in a suit of armor or aren't a tank then she can just freeze then 1 shot with her ice shard, and that's IF the rest of her team doesn't immediately destroy you. She has too much going for her, just like 76, who has unlimited shift, a powerful weapon with plentiful ammo, autoaim ult, and can basically undo any damage done to himself within 2 seconds by pressing E.
>>339637264
Only shitters like you complain about Mei. She's slow and her freeze ray is easy as shit to avoid, and like you said her wall fucks her own team more often than not. I can't even count the time a shithead Mei put an icewall in front of the Mercy I was trying to kill-
>>339632342
>suck ass as Soldier in TF2
>be good as Pharah in Overwatch
Yep, it checks out OP.
>>339636014
Just from the way you type, I can tell you're shit.
>>339632342
>>Be good at Soldier in TF2
Soldier is just a class with a low skill floor (does not imply low skill ceiling), like heavy. Most shitters can pick up soldier and have good impact on it while they can't handle anything else except maybe stickies on dustbowl.
>>339637694
I would accept those, but I still think her ult has been completely ruined since the beta. I've dropped it in very crowded areas and everyone just barely hides and survives.
>>339637718
76 is supposed to be jack of all trades though
>>339632342
constant movement OP. Constant Movement.
>>339637264
>Frost stream can't be blocked
Reinhardt shield, Winston bubble, and Zarya barrier block it. Zarya barrier can even be used on frozen allies and it unfreezes them.
>>339637756
>Only shitters complain about her
>agrees with complaints about her
Like I said she's easy to avoid if you're D.Va, Tracer, Genji, or someone else mobile but otherwise you're fucked because her stream slows you enough to keep you from outrunning her.
>>339637969
A jack of all trades shouldn't be better in every situation though, he should be efficient enough to get by. He should be as useful as D.Va is at range, yet he's practically close range reaper at all ranges.
>>339638062
I didn't know Reinhardt's did that, but the other two are so situational that most of the time they won't actually end up saving you.
>>339638308
Zarya's is up regularly. She's a really good tank, I don't understand why I see more Winstons and Dvas than her
>TF2 baby thinking that playing the most casual class-based team FPS in existence means they'll do well in a game that requires a modicum of skill.
Overwatch is casual too, but not as casual as TF2.
>>339638464
I won't even consider playing her until I get one of her siberian legendaries, I imagine most people are the same.
>>339638482
overwatch is way more casual than tf2, check yourself w. your autoaim posts
>>339638591
>first person
>you never get to see your own skins
>letting pink hair affect your enjoyment of a game
>giving SJWs that much power over your life and a hairstyle
No matter how people try to explain it, I just don't get it.
When you git gud with Pharrah she is easily one of the most fun characters to play as.
On the same level as Junkrat and Genji for me
I wanna add some people from /v/ to play with.
Or at least a /v/ group.
>>339637912
I think it's fine as is, other than maybe a radius close to the mech where you can't avoid damage by hiding behind a wall.
It does extremely well to clear an area, because even if everybody flees, nobody on the enemy team will be near her mech or survive next to itunless they hide behind a wall close to it. Her ULT is perfect for breaking up overtime matches, and usually determines who twins.
It also causes instant panic, and is a great distraction. If your team is competent enough, they can pressure people fleeing from her mech.
>Overwatch
>less casual than anything
>>339636359
If I wait until I'm almost dead recall won't get all my hp back
>>339636887
So I shouldn't worry about getting kills? My shot rate is like at 22% with all the blinking and strafing I can't really improve that.
>>339638464
She's hideous. I thought it was funny the other day when a friend of mine picked her and he told me that he was only doing it out of desperation (we were getting stomped) because she, as he put it, "is clearly a pandering dyke."
>>339638813
>you never get to see your own skins
The skins affect the weapons, too. You also get to see them when you emote and on the victory screen if you win.
>>339639003
Yes, your main job is to be a distracting pain in the ass and force enemies to pay attention to you then run away when they do and kill them if they don't.
>>339637294
I wish this artist drew mercy
>Don't play as Phara
>Get her /m/ skin in a loot box
>resolve to main her
>tfw she's one of my best characters now
>tfw my winpose and highlight intro all keep the helmet on
FUCK YOU GUYS I'M A GUNDAM
>>339632645
Definitely would like to fuck Tracer. Her playful giggling would make the sex hot as fuck
>>339632342
the only character I completely sucked with is hanzo.
>>339638813
I play D.Va mostly so I'm not gonna jump to some butch ruskie who's playstyle I don't like unless I have a cool skin
>>339632342
>>339632645
>tfw can play well as all these classes
>>339639071
>She's hideous
So? Who picks a character solely based on how attractive they are?
>>339632342
Overwatch is full of very powerful mid-range hitscan classes so it's very easy to deal with someone flying around.
>>339638904
>unless they hide behind a wall close to itpayload
Besides, my team generally isn't competant enough to use the opportunity to move into the cleared KotH objectives.
>>339633464
what video games are you talking about?
(CS:GO and league of legends don't qualify as video games).
>>339633828
Be extremely obnoxious.
>>339639261
dis story!!!
>>339639003
Yes, but more often than not Tracers don't wait that long. Granted they don't do much killing but it's more annoying than it should be.
>suck donkey balls as Demoman
>fucking own every single game as Junkrat
>>339638482
>Overwatch is casual too, but not as casual as TF2.
Spotted the shill.
>Absolute bottom of a barrel of dogshit worst Soldier player you'll ever see
>GOAT Pharah
wew
>>339639261
Happy for you, anon
>>339638073
I was complaining about retarded Mei players on my team, not complaining about being killed by Mei.
>hit 30
>get only matched with lvl 50 to fucking 100+
>game quality as shit as usual
>buyers remorse kicking in
>Everybody on the team is Junkrat
>Say fuck it and join them in the mayhem
It was a glorious victory, explosions, car alarms, traps, and tires flying everywhere.
>>339636359
>>339639003
Thanks for the Advice just got my first PoTG instead of losing to another fucking Bastion, I get it a bit more now.
>>339640053
tried this once, too bad the enemy team werent brain damaged and just switched to pharah and destroyed us.
>>339639901
>buying a sub-par TF2 clone for 40 bucks
>expecting anything but disssapoinment
>>339639894
Which was one of my complaints
I quote:
>always fucks up her own team with shitty ice wall placement getting them trapped and killed
and then I gave reasons why it's not always easy to avoid
learn to read
>walking down corridor
>see mcree/mei
>dead
what do i do?
i almost always die unless they fuck up somehow.
>>339632645
My issue is the full auto guns, instead of shotguns.
I've played comp FPS my whole life, but i've always hated sustaining my crosshair over the opponent for ongoing periods.
I'm fantastic at firing at the moment my crosshair passes over the enemy, with a shotgun, rifle, sniper, etc.
>>339640401
A mccree mei combo is hard to beat if they cooperate
>>339640401
play junkrat and shift rmb
best way to get mei shitters off of my dick
>>339634625
>be going sanic speed
Except she can't do this.
>>339640401
With what character are you having this issue with? Chances are there's nothing you can do if you're not prepared for them, but try and expect someone to pop out of a corner at any time and aim for where their head would be. Also, try not to walk alone.
>>339637718
so what if you get frozen
it takes like 2 seconds, in that time and range most classes with real weapons can easily do 300 damage or more (at least enough to destroy any non-tank class), with much better performance outside of that range
the spray is just easier to aim than most weapons
>>339632645
>Be good at Tracer and dominate every time I play as her
>Team nearly always never has tank or support so I spend most of my time as Mercy or Winston so that we actually stand a chance of winning
>>339640401
What is it that makes them fire their abilities faster than you can do blink?
>>339640401
>walking down corridors
>as Pharah
>walking
>as Pharah
>entire team dies to a hanzo ult
>entire team dies to a junkrat tire
OPEN YOUR FUCKING EARS
THEY ARE THE EASIEST SHIT TO AVOID
>>339639249
Well he did
>>339638073
But that's the fault of the player, nothing to do with the class. Anyway Mei isn't even close to being OP.
A Mei tries to freeze someone:
>Lucio
Faster than her and can run on walls
>Genji
Faster and double jumps
>Tracer
Obvious
>Bastion
Mow her down before she even gets close
>D.va
Booster
>Hanzo
Can kill her from a mile away
>Widow
Same
>Junkrat
Can mine jump away
>Mccree
Stun and dead
>Pharah
Fly away
>Reaper
Invuln away
>Reinhardt
Shield
>Winston
Shield and jump
>Soldier
Drop heal or kill her from a mile away like he can
>Zarya
Shield
>Symmetra
Probably fucked if caught unware
>Mercy
Probably fucked if caught unware
>Zenyatta
Probably fucked if caught unware, otherwise orb of discord and two or three shot her
>>339641019
IT'S NOT THAT EASY YOU PEICE OF FUCKING SHIT FUCK YOU
>>339635263
Soldier is tankier relative to average amount of damage slung around, his rockets do more splash, and there are fewer people who can get out of getting juggled by explosions.
>>339640740
I guess I see your point, but it still makes death a lot more likely with no defense.
>>339638062
>Zarya barrier can even be used on frozen allies and it unfreezes them.
Neat
>>339641087
I am disappointed.
How do I git gud with Roadhog? I'm only particularly decent with hammerbro, but I know that I should branch out a bit to cover various types of bullshit.
Not gonna lie, I pretty much only play casual shit like CoD because cooperating with like 5 randoms to win games is hell.
>>339632342
Rockets are slower
>>339632645
Takes more than 2 shots to kill someone
>>339632342
>>339639710
>>339639774
>terrible at scout
>great with tracer
>love playing demoman
>hate junkrat
Glad I'm not alone in this.
>>339641150
death is incredibly likely in this game anyway
complain about the 840 damage burst cowboy if you want to complain about something
>>339641107
>lists a bunch of mobile characters and explains to me how they can get away from her because they're fast
for the 3rd time I'll say it:
>Like I said she's easy to avoid if you're D.Va, Tracer, Genji, or someone else mobile but otherwise you're fucked because her stream slows you enough to keep you from outrunning her
I really wish you fucking people could read
I'm not even gonna bother reading the rest of this
>>339641087
That is fucking shit.
>>339641448
I'm actually ok with mccree except the fact that rolling reloads his gun
>>339640740
Her long range abilities are better than the vast majority of classes. Her DPS might be lower, but her slow lets her kite/pursue as appropriate and land her shots. If she had even close to the damage output of other classes she'd be broken as fuck. As it is she can easily win nearly any 1v1 engagement unless its mccree who is getting nerfed.
>>339635263
Is Overwatch such an obvious TF2 clone that you can actually compare stats and mechanics of characters from two different games to tell if one is balanced?
>>339641487
He listed over half the cast that can get away from her.
What's your point again?
>>339641305
>>339641087
okay nvm is growing on me, but not as good as the pharah one.
>>339633828
Gotta go fast.
Don't get hit.
Hunt the squishies, don't hunt the tanks (except for the low dps tanks like Dva - I guess you can hunt Reinhardt too since he's too slow to get into melee range)
>1 fan the hammer can kill 200hp heroes with zarya bubble
>>339641487
I listed all the characters, most of them can easily escape her or out dps her. You don't even know how to play the game yet you complain you utter retard.
is overwatch more or less fun than tf2
play nice, play pharrah!!
>>339641087
Garbage
>>339637065
The bitch literally has a rocket jump button. Stop being assmad that the "skillful" technique is now just an ability
>>339639710
Love Junkrat
>panic mine and fly away from the action when a McCree, Mei, or Tracer tries to kill me
>>339641107
Being faster doesn't matter at all when she fucking slows you, jfc.
Then you've got dumb ass fucking shit like this:
>Can kill her from a mile away
She plays defense, you have to come to her if you want to kill where she sets the rules and wins easily.
>>339641770
more fun than current tf2, less fun than orange box tf2
>>339641749
How long before we "competitive" e-sport?
>>339637065
Actually, it's "Rocket jump? That sounds dabgerous!"
>>339641643
If it didn't he'd be completely fucking useless. He would suck ass at pushing and taking out priority targets because he'd be defenseless as soon as he got through his tiny clip.
>>339637264
Pyro counter when?
>>339641441
Lower splash radius too, it's more like the Direct Hit's.
>>339641948
that's a pretty huge gap
>>339633340
>completely different genre
Idiot.
>>339641902
>Being faster doesn't matter at all when she fucking slows you
It matters because she can't reach you with her freeze you if you just run away before she's in range you moron
>She plays defense, you have to come to her if you want to kill where she sets the rules and wins easily.
Even on defense if you're closing in on her with a character with good long range dps you're a fucking retard
>>339642013
revolvers dont have clips
>>339639710
This is pretty much me.
>No sticky faggotry, just one giant concussion mine that can send Reinhardt flying through the sky
>That beautiful area denial
>Wipe out entire waves of the enemy team with the ult.
Junkrat's pretty based, definitely one of my more picked heroes
>>339642013
Wow he'd be actually forced to reload after he insta kills nearly any hero in the game? That's so unfair.
>>339632342
>Soldier
Rocket jumping, air strafing, splash damage from rockets. Also fast af.
>Pharah
Push button to fly, almost no splash damage. Slow and clunky, basically a flying target Heavy,
>>339641825
No you don't get it, it takes less skill if it's bound to a key instead of having to consult a wiki to figure out how it works!
>>339642331
but how is he supposed to kill tanks quick? play reaper?
>>339637294
>concussion blast isn't for enemies
Yes it is, you shoot behind or on the side of them to force them off ledges and into pitfalls
>>339642487
>concussion blast isn't JUST for enemies
learn how to read
>>339639510
I doara ara~Blueberry-San
>>339642478
Tanks are tanky, it's just how it is.
>>339632645
Tracer is the best character in the fucking game after McCree, just dash shoot dash shoot dash shoot rewind shoot dash shoot dash shoot dash shoot rewind shoot ad infinitum. Cannot wait for her to be nerfed.
>>339641738
Tracer counters Reinhardt super hard. Just blink behind him and unload into his back then when he turns just repeat and he will be dead in a second from you're team being able to shoot him while he flails to stop you.
>>339642281
That's because his ult is retarded. Its explosion animation shows a blast about the size of a grenade, but it's range is ACTUALLY the size of an entire capture area. SURPRISE! And no damage falloff! If you don't shoot it or hide, you lose! It's basically D Va's, but impossible to miss with.
>>339641671
>Her long range abilities are better than the vast majority of classes.
The icicle drops down to something like 40 dps at long range, and it's not even a particularily impressive weapon at mid-range. The spray is not even mid-range, it's not applicable in a discussion of long-range power. She's worse at long range than all the other defense characters, worse than mccree(although she has much better survivability there, of course), genji, pharah, zenyatta are also better at long range. I don't even really know what her purpose is as a class except big ice wall plays.
>>339641019
>hear hanzo ult
>can't see him anywhere
>dragons come out of wall
>I was in the dead center
If you have less than 300hp you aren't getting out of that one.
>>339639592
Never played either but I'm complete ass at all RTS games, every FPS I'v ever played including TF2, and fighting games despite having hundreds of hours in those
I usually do well in Overwatch though, consistently get silvers and golds
>Wolf Hanzo
>Was the 5th highest scoring Junkrat on PS4
>Too scared to check again
>>339642603
Unless they see it coming and shoot its 50 HP ass.And this is why you try to approach from behind and/or above to surprise them. You got ten seconds, it's fast, and it can climb most walls, make it count.
>>339642281
>No sticky faggotry, just one giant concussion mine that can send Reinhardt flying through the sky
you can't insta-kill entire teams with the conc mine though
plus it doesn't let you fly nearly as far as the sticky launcher
>>339642592
What is the rest of his team doing while you're behind him unloading the 4+ full magazines it takes to kill him?
>>339642478
He isn't supposed to kill tanks quick, he's supposed to fuck up the characters who want to flank.
>>339632342
>LIVE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
>HAVE SCRUFFY BEARD AND LONGISH HAIR
>MCCREE IS MY FAVORITE CLASS
Well now...
>>339642586
Tracer doesn't need a nerf you fucking retard
>>339639071
>She's hideous
Is it opposite day already?
>"is clearly a pandering dyke."
>the muscular weightlifting champ who hates several members of the roster solely because they are not human
>pandering dyke
How? Please, describe how.
>>339642754
WHO THE FUCK CARES.
>keep missing out on the achievement to get the Cute Pharah spray because all of my JUSTICE 4 person kills are done from the ground behind enemies and I can't break this habit
JUST
>>339638482
this is some impressive bait
>>339639710
Having a good match as Junkrat is the most fun shit
>Mercy is damage boosting me for most of it
>Make Reinhardt's life a living hell
>Completely shut down one corridor by myself
>Get tons of kills by spamming grenades into other ones
>End the match with 4 gold medals and over 17,000 damage
>>339641720
>>339641769
>21 heroes
>half=11 for partiality to your argument
>I mentioned 3 of which by name, and though that I made it obvious that mobile heroes like Lucio and Pharah are also included (though Lucio is debatable based on the situation) I'll not count them since not explicitly mentioned
>So he made, at most, a total of 8 unique arguments in favor of his argument
>3 of which are "just don't be anywhere near her" when that isn't always possible and isn't an excuse in certain areas of certain maps
That's 5 valid suggestions out of 21 that aren't just copy pasted from my post. Most of which still rely on not having just used a crucial ability just beforehand.
By the way
>I listed all the characters
well you must sure know a whole lot, you didn't even put roadhog on the list! It's almost as if he made your argument look worse because he's slow!
>>339642331
You're a fucking dumbass for real. Do you think a road hog with 200 health and a one shot mag would be balanced because he can theoretical instakill nearly any hero in the game?
I swear the majority of overwatch players are literally brain damaged.
>>339638842
Good for you
>>339642759
10 seconds is more than enough time to go wherever you want. I often use it from behind a wall, and just run halfway around the map to get them. I USE Junkrat, man. The thing needs a nerf.
>>339642861
You replied :^)
>yfw Rocket Jumping with Pharrah and then pressing shift smacks you into the skybox on every level
Why can 76 rocket jump?
>>339642250
>Even on defense if you're closing in on her with a character with good long range dps you're a fucking retard
Yeah better sit in the back and never push the objective..... Dipshit.
>>339639710
>>339642281
What makes him easy compared to Demoman is the 5 shot clip that reloads all at once. He's a fucking spamming machine if you want him to be.
>>339641002
the tick rate :^>
>>339642754
so you can lob grenades down a hallway good for you my man
>>339639261
Epic!
>>339642825
t. Tracer main
>>339642885
Justice is the shittiest ult in the game, man. It's like McCree's, except it's damage is over an extended time so some people can get hit, turn around, and kill you, you can't move, and the rockets form a massive line to show the enemies right where you are. It's literally garbage.
>>339642807
Do you think Blizzard is retarded? You don't give someone an 840 damage nuke if they aren't supposed to kill tanks.
Is he too good at it? Absolutely, but they're never going to make him poor at killing tanks.
>>339643124
Someone got beat by based rato
>>339642927
Roadhog can hook and kill her in one fell swoop.
>>339643182
>Do you think Blizzard is retarded?
History points to yes.
>>339642927
Alright revision time I didn't do a proper count so it's a few more than 11 heroes mentioned but there still isn't enough different ways to escape the freeze nor enough counters, and I'm still holding my stance about how people need to read a fucking post before patronizing someone by repeating what they say and treating them like idiots.
>>339643169
It's fucking godly for finishing a pocket of wounded enemies, or paired with reinhardts or zarya's ult. Git gud, basically.
>>339642250
>character isn't OP because if you ignore her and let her win you'll live
>>339633828
you dont even have to worry about killing non squishy guys . If you can take 20% of a tanks HP and run off your team can fuck hip up
1 always be dodging
2 never die
>>339642927
>he doesn't understand she can easily be out dpsed
>he doesn't understand positioning is extremely important in this game and if you're getting anywhere near her freeze ray you only have yourself to blame
Please do continue being an utter retard, this is hilarious
>Roadhog
Better DPS at close range and can interrupt with hook
>>339643049
The grenades also bounce much more, always detonate on impact with enemies and always deal full damage. It's fucking insane, but then he doesn't have a sticky launcher.
>>339637678
>Quake
>bunnyhop
>>339643373
>it's good if they are already half dead, or if someone else used an ult that forces the enemies to hold still and not shoot you
Wow, so is anything else in the game.
>>339643045
How about you learn how to read?
>>339643458
Who said anything about ignoring her?
>>339643373
It's really not. Pharah starts doing damage nearly instantly. THAT'S what makes it good, since you can use it the instant a favorable opportunity presents itself, provided you aren't a dumbass.
>>339641708
no he's just a retard
>>339641825
That's sort of it: it's a LOT less flexible than proper rocket jumps because it caters to retards.
Rocket jumping on a cooldown is shit, you can't jump in and then out easily.
Rocket jumping with a set vertical distance is also shit, you can't way overshoot that small ledge you want to get onto, exposing your location + head to snipers way more than it should be.
I get that they wanted to make it more accessible, but it also makes it TERRIBLE at the same time.
>>339643602
How about you learn to THINK? If she's by the objective, and you are supposed to never approach her, you can never approach the objective.
>start playing tf2 recently
>engi is slow and retarded
>heal is stay back and die bored
>all other classes except spy are generic boring bazooka shooters
i cant understand how could you enjoy anything other than spy
>>339643946
So you shoot her in her fat head from a distance, and now you can approach the objective
That was hard
>>339644012
scout is fun as shit and if you disagree you are a plen
there's no equivalent in OW except lucio for 3 seconds every 15
>>339643946
How about you stop being utterly retarded? You're supposed to kill her from a safe distance and THEN approach the objective
>>339643594
Meant for
>>339643781
>>339633828
2 types of good tracers
One they completely dismantle by killing the squishies unaware
Two they cut the enemies offense in half and focus their attention on you
Tracer's insane in that she can unload 40 bullets, dash out, go back in to unload her entire shit and leave. Get hit once and its almost always worth it to Recall. Practice that recall until you know exactly when its up like clock work.
There's a reason you see one or two faggots every once in a while "maining" Tracer.
>>339641671
>Her long range abilities are better than the vast majority of classes
Wait what?
You do realize Mei has damage drop off, right? If she isn't headshotting at long range, she's doing like 30 damage per hit.
Even fucking Zenyatta can kill her at long range.
>>339644101
>>339644138
Are you guys SERIOUSLY this fucking retarded? Like FOR REAL? All she has to do is fucking stay out of line of sight.
Jesus fucking christ this is like reddit level retardation. Kill yourselves
>>339632342
It's literally because the speed of the game is different, what makes people great at soldier is understanding where people can move to avoid your rockets, you still haven't learned all of the character move speeds in overwatch by heart yet so your hands don't yet know how to place rockets.
>>339644341
>Are you guys SERIOUSLY this fucking retarded? Like FOR REAL?
No, we're not the ones that are whining about bottom-tier trash like Mei like you are
>>339643939
Honestly Pharah would be too OP within the limits of the game if she could rocket jump freely, especially with a Mercy flying around with her.
Post plays of the game.
>>339643946
if she's by the objective you can easily kill her because you're several people and she deals no damage
>>339644198
As a Mercy player, Tracers are the bane of my existence. A good Tracer is nearly unkillable and while she may not kill anyone, she'll harass your backline the entire game distracting you from the main threat.
That's why I don't want McCree nerfed since he's the only class that can actually kill her.
>>339644012
>not combat medicing
you hit harder than mercy and are way more annoying to kill, two medics with ubersaws is some of the most fun I have ever had in TF2.
>>339644341
If she stays out of line of sight then just ignore the doorway she's hiding in and push the objective, what's the problem here
There's no situation where Mei is literally unbeatable
>>339644242
Zenyatta is decent at range. She's better than Reaper, Tracer, Genji (faster projectiles), Junkrat, Tor (minus turret), D.va, Reinhardt, Roadhog, Winston, Zarya, Lucio, and Mercy. That is two thirds of the cast.
>>339644431
I'm just a bitter soldier main, she feels really terrible to play.
Just floating in the air to dodge isn't a strategy, unless you have a mercy glued to your ass. Any sniper worth their salt will wreck both of you, doesn't even have to be a headshot, as widows rifle charges up so goddamn fast. Hell, take your pick on who will shoot you down, you can't even DROP to safety quickly.
>>339644551
>Not replacing the character portraits
0/10
How do you suck as Pharah? She's super easy to play and takes hardly any skill. Needs a nerf, really.
>>339644341
>out of line of sight
>now she can't do shit to protect the objective
how does it feel to be a fucking retard that can't even deal with mei
>>339644610
She hides near the objective dipshit.
>>339644413
Thinking she is bottom tier means your are clinically retarded. She's not OP, but she is strong as fuck.
>>339644670
She's definitely not better than Junkrat (he can lock down an area at range), and is equivalent to Mercy and Lucio (both who can just spam at an area).
Also, I still don't see how non-hitscan 30hp projectiles are 'good'. It's just something to do when you can't get in close.
>>339644242
>thrity damage
nope, I've two shotted junkrats from very far away with Mei's icicle, by luck at least, I can't aim the icicles for shit usually, fucking weapon start up.
>>339644770
>>339644706
/v/ has such a retardedly wide range of skill levels, it's amazing that anything can be discussed at all.
>>339644892
>nope, I've two shotted junkrats from very far away with Mei's icicle
Post webm because as S76 I win against Meis at long range all the time. Pretty sure I took 4 icicles to the face once and still killed her too.
>>339644892
it deals 75-22 damage
junkrat has 200 health
you probably got headshots
>>339644840
>Mei is hiding near the objective
>McCree goes in and pumps her fat ass with lead
>Reinhardt goes first and blocks her spray while the rest of the team behind him kills her immediately
>Junkrat spams into her hiding place from behind cover
And even if she's hiding near the objective and gets the drop on you, if your team has enough brain cells to go in together she's still fucking dead, she's good at 1v1 but any 2 people will destroy her faster than she has time to say ching chong ding dong
>>339641009
considering how long her CD is I don't blame him
>>339644840
She is only OP when she's playing properly as a defensive support, sort of like the pocket pyro, but better. She doesn't have that much teeth, except if you let yourself get frozen by her beam - even then it's her teammates having full access to your exposed asshole that's the really dangerous part.
>>339645013
they weren't headshots then, also mei's pretty stupid to fight literally anyone at long range for more than a second or two as she'll still lose the fight generally.
>>339644840
>Thinking she is bottom tier means your are clinically retarded.
She sees 0 play in competitive OW
She dies to a single Fan the Hammer(and I dunno if you noticed, but McCree is fucking everywhere nowadays)
Tracer shits on her
>>339641002
20 tick rate.
>>339644807
You've got to be trolling at this point. I refuse to believe that someone this retarded can use the internet.
>>339644891
At sufficient range she is absolutely better than junkrat. Even in range of his nades, he's area denial.
>can't lead shots for shit
>Have surgeon-like precision with Reinhardts fire shot
I don't know why but I spend all day nailing tracer out of dashes and pharah out of the sky. I probably have 90% accuracy against low health enemies fleeing.
>>339645051
That's what I meant, they were headshots.
>>339645167
>they weren't headshots then,
Of course they weren't. Even if they were you need 3 headshots to kill most characters at range.
You're playing with shitters though since it's non-hitscan and if I see an icicle about to hit my head from long range, I just jump and take 30 dmg instead.
>>339645197
Nice meme.
>>339645215
>When you flame strike a Rein and accidentally kill two people behind him
>>Be good at Soldier in TF2
Like anyone with more than one brain cell?
>>339645057
That's like saying "just shoot mccree from range." Sure, it works, but that doesn't mean he isn't OP.
>It's another "Anon complains about Mei since he's stuck with low MMR" episode
I don't know why people like this exist. You just need to look at pro play and realize that she's the least picked hero in the game.
EVEN ZENYATTA IS PICKED MORE THAN MEI.
>>339645215
>be dwarfman
>place turret on rotating platforms
>rack up kills as people can't hit it enough
>>339644132
>>339644604
i have like 4 hours of game time in tf2, maybe when ill learn how to play them i will get more fun from all these things
>>339645278
>You're playing with shitters though since it's non-hitscan and if I see an icicle about to hit my head from long range, I just jump and take 30 dmg instead.
>jumping
why not just move slightly to the left or right if you have such reaction skill? Jumping makes it way easier for anyone that wasn't that mei to hit you on the way down
>>339645369
The difference though is that if 2 or 3 people approach McCree he can stun and kill all of them because his damage output is retarded
I agree that McCree needs some tweaks but Mei is nowhere near as powerful, you have to let her get the drop on you while you're alone for her to kill you, whereas if you see a McCree it's probably already still too late
>>339645176
McCree is the only reason she isn't OP, and he's getting nerfed.
>implying competitive players know anything
They just fucking spam the meta meme picks to play safe since money is on the line. Look how fucking long it took melee to be anything but fox and falco everywhere.
>>339639261
setsuna has taken over you my friend, i can fix that
>>339645372
There isn't any real pro scene yet you dingus. She may well be OP.
>>339645201
>You've got to be trolling at this point. I refuse to believe that someone this retarded can use the internet.
You sure showed me with all those arguments you retarded shitter
>>339645606
>I, a shitter who struggles against the worst hero in the game, know more about this game than the pro players
>>339645606
Competitive players play to win by definition, so they choose the things that maximize their chances of winning. So yes, they know some things.
>>339644101
HOLY FUCKING SHIT /V/
PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
>>339639710
I love how you can go on an aerial rampage and drop bombs from above with the concussive mine.
In TF2 you have to
>Select sticky launcher
>Shoot sticky
>Select grenade launcher, sticky jump
>Drop bombs from above
>Even if you have sticky jumper, still get hurt from fall damage and have to have heals to keep going
While with Junkrat it's so much faster to execute and you can do it as long as you're alive
>>339645623
>There isn't any real pro scene yet you dingus.
There were regular tournaments in closed beta, and there have already been a couple since launch
>>339645412
All of the classes in TF2 are really fun and have their uses (including pyro, dom't let shitters tell you he's useless.)
>>339632342
>Be good in Tribes 2, Unreal 2 XMP, UT & Quake
>Be good with pharah
Well shit, seems like we're made for eachother
>>339645569
Mei's kill potential by itself isn't what makes her good. It's her kill potential on TOP of a self heal, a delay, a slow, a crowd control/shield/block/seperator.
>>339645623
There is a pro scene, the meta is kind of changing a lot due to balancing. You think people who're good at FPS / team based games already don't exist?
>>339639261
>get Hanzo young skin
>try him out
>oh, it's hunstman, I used to be fucking amazing at that in tf2
>suck balls and feel like I'm contributing nothing
>know it'll take hours and horus and hours to get good at him
I don't want to, I'd rather play a more braindead class. I don't even like his young look that much, old hanzo is way sexier, what a fucking waste.
>>339632342
Then git gud kid.
>play Mercy primarily
>mfw I find a good Pharah that watches my back
>>339645740
They choose thing that other have decided maximizes their chances of winning. They only pick what's proven to work.
>>339645865
>due to balancing
There haven't been any balance changes yet you idiot.
The reason why it changes so much is because no one knows what they're doing, which is also the reason why no one uses Mei even though she's potentially OP.
>>339645861
I do agree that her ice block is fucking stupid, every time you get close to killing her she just makes herself invincible and heals back up
They really should either make that ability not heal her or heal less, and make it so she can't contest points while frozen because that's just bullshit
>>339646047
Well don't worry, I'm sure someday you'll shake up the pro scene with your OP Bastion and Mei strats :^)
>>339643524
The grenades actually detonate based on bounces (or direct contact), not time. On the third bounce, and after a small small amount of time, it will detonate.
How the FUCK do I fight Pharah as Junkrat?
>inb4 herp le durp just switch heroes
>>339632342
I felt demo to Junkrat was an easy transition
>>339646019
source now.
>>339645995
There's nothing impressive about this
This is only a step higher than the Pharahs that use their ult to single kill people in 1v1 situations
Anyone can press q to get kills as Pharah
>>339642560
>that jp voice
HHHHNNNGGGG
>>339645995
>holy shit he pressed q when everybody was distracted so gud
I'm not saying she's bad, its just that this proves absolutely nothing.
>>339632342
>>339632645
Because you two fell for the overwatch is a tf2 clone meme
>>339645893
>oh, it's hunstman
>I'd rather play a more braindead class
>>339646103
Then why was zenyatta nerfed, why is DVA stacking not still a thing? Balancing has been going on since closed beta, when they were having competitive matches
>>339646019
Gimme the sauce bub
>>339646235
anime name
>>339645851
its funny that you mentioned pyro, ive never heard any memes about him (i wasnt interested in tf untill yesterday) but i played him and he feels weak as fuck, there must be some truth in these shitters. again, maybe i am shit at games just like them
>>339646237
>>339646234
Takes skill to know when to use it and who to prioritize with it
>>339646154
You really don't unless you can land some crazy trick shots with your grenades
Certain characters just can't really fight certain other characters, this isn't a fighting game where every matchup is possible
Junkrat will lose to Pharah 99% of the time
Winston will lose to Bastion 99% of the time
Etcetera
But fortunately it's a team game so you should rely on your teammates to shut down Pharah if you don't want to switch
>>339646154
You shoot at her, duh. It's an uphill battle for you, because you only have projectiles that curve, meaning her height advantage is going to fuck you everytime. Get gud is literally the answer, if you're not going to change class. Or just ask someone on your team to help you, because all heroes have a weakness somewhere.
>>339646452
well not really, it doesn't take a mathmatician when to use it on heroes like mercy or zenyatta, its just that it again proves nothing.
>>339646019
Mercy + Pharah is the Heavy + Medic of this game. I always know I'll be neglected with heals if I have a Pharah on my team.
>>339646452
Nice joke. Nothing about Pharah takes skill especially her ult.
>>339646442
pyros strength (at least when I played) was setting people on fire and then using your airblast and secondary weapons to instantly kill people
>>339646426
Every girl is best girl DXDExcept Asia, fuck Asia
>/v/ complains that this game is easy and casual
>/v/ whines about bottom-tier shit like Mei and Bastion
Hmmm
>>339642754
>on PS4
>>339646103
>There haven't been any balance changes yet you idiot.
Stopped reading.
Educate yourself before shitposting.
>>339646113
That's a super unique ability though that fits really well with her toolkit of throwing wrenches in the enemies plans. They should let her keep that ability, increase her ability to hamper multiple people at once to set up kills for her team, and reduce her solo kill potential.
>>339646019
if there is a pharah on my team I forget my teammates exist.unless the pharah is trash
>>339632342
Pharah basically uses a slower version of the Direct Hit from TF2.
She's also a free kill to anyone who's using a hitscan hero once she starts flying
>>339646452
Why did they fly so far away? Also, why is that explosion so big?
>>339646680
Bastion and Mei are both annoying to fight against, it's always one "oops they had a Bastion/Mei and I died instantly" per match, but then it's not too difficult to shut them down, it just continues to be annoying because you have to alter your strategy for them
I don't know why people still honestly believe they're overpowered though
What's the best counter to Pharah
Besides Widow which I can never pick because there's always 4 useless ones on my team
>>339646806
>competitive scene in a beta
Good one.
>>339646593
yeah, i still cant figure out what does right click do or when to use it, i need to play more and read some wiki or something
>>339632342
Because soldier is OP.
Seriously, an easy to use splash damage weapon shouldn't be able to two-shot all but one class in the game.
>>339646953
>strawman
>>339646930
le hooking hog man can shut her down easily
>tfw people are already in the level hundreds
>>339646930
Soldier 76 is pretty good.
>>339646584
no that's reinhardt and mercy
that would be closer with soldier and medic
>>339646442
He's a character that's supposed to excel at short range, except heavy is better at it.
He is supposed to be good at spy checking, but literally anyone can do that, too.
He is supposed to be able to push the enemy back, but soldier and demo can juggle as well.
He can extinguish people on fire, but so can scout and sniper if they are equipped for it.
He is supposed to ambush people on the flanks, but GUESS WHAT? Scout, spy, arguable soldier are better at that too.
Basically he is okay at a lot of things but there are better choices almost always depending on the situation.
He really shines in pushing back ubers with his airblast + just playing as a defensive character in general. But don't let /v/ hear you saying this, their vast range of skill levels will inevitably lead to someone bitching about W + M1.
>>339644413
>bottom-tier trash
Oh hey, a retard who just parrots what "pros" say. The only reason Mei isn't used among them is because they run 2 McCrees a game.
>>339644431
Rocket jumping doesn't get you too much height. What's bull is that Junkrat doesnt get hurt from mine jumping.
>>339646930
Soldier 76 and McCree if you can left click. Sometimes roadhog if they are flying low. Literally no other class can kill her without extreme difficulties and I hope the bitch gets nerfed.
I know, none of the classes feel like they should.
But seriously though, we need more Pharah SFM porn.
>>339646442
Pyro is N O T an attack class, anyone with a brain will destroy you if you play him as one. He is great for defense and support. Staying near the combo and helping your engie is where the pyro shines. Your job is to keep everyone not-combusted and make spies lives a living hell, along with airblasting rockets and grenades away from their targets.
Certain unlocks like the scorch shot add the ability to harass snipers and make medics fall back to medpacks. You are also the best class for defending against ubercharges, as you can effectively make the enemy combo waste theirs by blasting them away from the objective.
I've run Rainblower, Shotty/SS, and Homewrecker/Powerjack/Third Degree since 2012 and Pyro isin my opinionone of the most fun classes to play.
Also Pyro is a great target for a quick fix uber.
Don't get me wrong, he IS fairly weak compared to classes like Scout and Soldier, but he is NOWHERE near as bad as most people make him out to be.
>>339646154
Shoot when she hovers, use concussion tire to launch yourself into the air and have an air duel
>>339646857
I knocked them off with a concussive frag not a rocket. Sorry for the quality
>>339646930
Anyone with projectile weapons and the ability to aim.
S76 is the best at it though.
>>339647136
>>339644431
Combine rocket/jumpjetting, it makes you hit the ceiling as the only hero in the game.
you can only do it every 12 seconds though, as the cooldown permits.
>>339644706
That's funny because I played most of >>339645860 games and I really enjoy her. What would make her perfect is if she had side dashes as well.
>>339647136
the mine seems to barely damage other people though, it must have a really small damage radius. Most of the time people just go flying without being damaged
>>339647135
I just hate seeing at least three Ghibus W+m1 Backburner or Phlog pyros on every team since the game went F2P, honestly. Whether they're good or not isn't what bothers me. The class attracts kiddies and shitters and there are a whole lot more of those now.
>>339647136
Oh hey, a retard who puts "pros" in quotation marks like he's better than they are
>>339644963
>people have different opinions and different skill levels
oh holy shit what a fucking time to be alive I had no idea, better point this out before someone else does
>>339635950
>Get behind them
Is it just me or do many of the maps not facilitate this?
When the maps have multiple routes for flanking I do really well as Tracer. When they're full of chokepoints I'm dead weight.
The map design feels really fucking poor in this game. As a Scout in TF2 I felt useful on every map.
>>339646019
>>339646173
>>339646394
It's Sunnysundown's work. He makes some good shitif you're okay with mlp
>>339647327
She is good in pubs, yes. I do have a lot of fun playing her.
However, I wouldn't call her "good" because of that. At higher levels of play, she plays very differently + can't just do whatever she wants in the air all the time. Her ult is pretty situational too.
>>339647458
Some of the chokepoints are abosolutely bullshit. I had a game on the Russian map where Toberlones put their sentries on the moving platforms and we couldnt get an offensive push going.
>>339646954
Right click with your flamethrower is an airblast that reflects projectiles and pushes people back. You can also get rid of fire on your teammates by airblasting them
If you're above someone and airblast someone down they get stuck and can't move for a second (I don't know if this still works)
Pyro has always been in a weird place because he's "supposed" to be a flanking class but he's not fast, but he shines as a defensive support. You shut down ubers by just airblasting them away, you can instantly kill some classes with the flare gun. He can do a lot of things but a lot of classes are better at specific things
t. Pyro main
>>339647614
at higher levels of play I wouldn't really use her ult anywhere in the area, more like from a flanking position preferably close to the ground, and also you have to worry about widowmakers/turok err I mean hanzo
I need some help understanding Reinhardt.
When you shoot through a friendly Reinhardt, do your shots get reduced by 90% of their damage?
When you stand behind a friendly Reinhardt's shield, do you take 300% increased damage?
When you stand behind a friendly Reinhardt's shield, do you suddenly contract a case of the gays?
Because it sure as fuck seems to me like that must be the case, given how everyone just runs right through my shield and never wants to stay behind it as I push in.
>>339635970
those are my 2 favs as well, i will admit D.VA more atheisticly but junkrat is just always a blast to play with
>>339647814
>Playing Rein
>Teammate is playing Soldier76
>Runs right in front of my shield
>Gets ass blasted by Pharah
>"Wow I couldnt do anything, Pharah is fucking OP"
>>339647814
It's like herding cats. I feel your pain, Anon.
>>339647814
ur 2 slow
>>339632816
Sauce?
>>339647136
Rocket jumping isn't good due to height, but mobility. Giving Pharah that mobility would be absolutely retarded in OW and makeTorbbe a mandatory counter.
>>339647814
>standing behind a reinhardt
>getting fired at by the entire other team
>reinhardt puts down his shield for a split second to use his E
>instantly sniped by a Widowmaker
you fuckers are worse than hitler
>>339647942
I was just playing with a Mercy, and we were right at the action, no one else is around us. Mercy is pocket healing me for some fucking reason instead of just shooting or doing anything else. But then, she decides to run and jump through my shield right into 3 enemies and die instantly.
And let's not forget Zenyatta, who has the lowest health in the game, who also decides to push just barely past my shield and let himself die instead of having some fucking patience or brains.
>"look at the reinheart, not doing his job killing pharah with his range attack"
>>339647814
Your lame boring tactics conflict with their ultimate YOLO strategies.
ur bad
Is there any point playing as Zenyatta?
I feel like his ability to heal is worse than any other support.
His orb of discord is handy for busting tanks and he does pretty decent damage for a support. But that all seems moot when Widowmaker exists in her current state.
>>339648242
I bet whoever said this was using a hitscan weapon too
>>339648178
I'll admit I'm guilty of this shit, it's easy to forget snipers are there when you always have a shield up
>reinheart's shield breaks
>he immediatly rushes in to the objective and dies
every fucking time
>>339648178
Do you know why Reinhardts drop their shield to use E?
Because the rest of you fuckers aren't shooting through the shield.
I don't know about other ones but most of the time when I drop the shield to use E it's either
A) Because my shield is about to shatter and I'm going to throw out the fire strike and back off
B) Because a Junkrat tire is incoming and I'm going to kill it before it kills us
C) Because no one is behind me so I'm going to try and kill things myself.
>>339648402
Discord orbs singlehandedly make tanks completely useless, and they make a lot of squishies weak enough for your own sniper to bodyshot them to death
He's a really strong offensive character, especially if the enemy doesn't have a good sniper, you just can't really use him as your only healer, he works best alongside Lucio or something
>>339648402
It's not really that Zenyatta is bad moreso that Widowmaker shouldn't be able to one shot him with a body shot
>>339648576
>complaining about zen
>the hovering free kill
>>339632342
>can't get good with Dva
Why even live?
>>339648684
>complaining
I was explaining why he's not that bad
I have a friend that uses him a lot and it's great
>when you play as Pharah and you have a good mercy on your team
>>339648402
Angry Reinhardt guy here, Zenyatta is great to have behind your shield. Orb of discord plus his balls gives a good damage output, as long as he can aim. His weakness of low HP and mobility is moot if he's standing behind your shield. But most of them either want to push in and die or fuck off to another part of the map entirely.
>>339648604
They made it like this because in the hands of someone with GOOD aim, he was absolutely nutty.
They would run double tracer double zen and it would be DEVASTATING the amount of damage output by them. Regenerating health / healing orb / recall made it ridic as well.
Do you guys notice it when a good Zenyatta is on your team?
>>339632342
>Played doom 1 when it was new
>Then no more fps until now
>Buy Overwatch
>98 % Phara playtime
-"Justice rains from all directions!"
i love pharah, its like im really back in the shazbowl
>>339648498
>shield breaks
>no cover around
>all you fuckers ran off on your own or died already
I'm taking at least one of them out before they take me out.
>>339649024
sometimes yeah
I dont notice his discord orbs at all though
>>339649024
and then i switch to junkrat and blow him away
>>339647134
>no that's reinhardt and mercy
Maybe if Reinhardt wasn't the literal definition of a tank. If you wanted a Heavy comparison Zarya works better. It won't stop people comparing Pharah+Mercy as Heavy+medic though.
>>339648719
post the dickgirl verison
>>339649024
Yes, a good Zen singlehandedly locks down tanks
>>339649024
I notice it when there's a good Zenyatta on the enemy team, that's for sure
>turn a corner
>drop dead by eating half a dozen steel balls within a split second
>>339648057
http://exhentai.org/g/833873/490e0d3951/
>>339649128
Pharah/Mercy is the Soldier/Medic with Kritzkreig
You all have to remember, since there is no overheal in this game, there is no point to a Heavy/Medic combo type of thing. In TF2 you do Heavy/Medic so you can have someone like Winston/Roadhog, a character who has a shitton of health. But here, everyone already has a shit-ton of health so all Mercy is left with is damage boosting and healing people who are injured, and she's better off putting her damage boost on someone like Pharah.
>>339649367
Junkrat or Pharah/Mercy should be the main combo, just copy the 6s meta of pocket demo/soldier and medic
>>339649509
Pretty much, though Soldier 76 or McCree can work decently as well. And in defensive situations Bastion is great too.
Pharah rocket launcher splash damage sucks, you have to get direct hits.
>>339649024
Yes, you can tell he's good when he immediately switches to a more useful character.
>>339648782
>nigger slide
.gif ruined fuck off
>>339647458
Just you, idiot. Almost all of the maps facilitate tracer's ability to use all three of her blinks without losing any height.
>>339648782
>tfw I've watched a bunch of these and now I only get off to sissy/trap porn
>most of the negative reviews on metacritic from users are consolefags complaining about "muh $60"
Pc gaming is the best place to be
ever
>>339651445
ok sum1 is gnna have to give a source i cant find it
>>339651813
take a break senpaiI was something like you, I didn't fap for 3 weeks and was able to bust a nut to vanilla.
>>339653332
I'll give it a shotI honestly don't even like sissy/trap stuff anymore, it's just the only thing I can get off to
>>339653770Yeah I know what you mean. I'm not even into dudes but I used to fap to that pretty oftentraps/convincing smales are pretty good though, but now its time vagina time with gf.
>>339651813
Why would it make you want traps
>>339641087
I kinda like it.
>>339653990
Got some news for you pal, those are dudes
>>339643602
Dude, you've been proven wrong so many times. Your shitty Mein is a buzzkill on the game. Which is ironic since Blizzard focused everything around the term "fun" for this game
>>339644101
She puts up wall. Then proceeds to freeze herself. Meanwhile the rest of her team are on you, fucking you up.
Mei
Is
No
Fun
Allowed
>>339644557
She walls
She ults
Ahe freezes herself after taking one or two of you out
>>339644610
She then proceeds to flank you because you left her running around and went straight to objective
>>339644807
Why do you think she stays there? Also why do your scenarios consist of just her in a fucking team game?
>>339645057
She sees you coming and begins freezing before you turn corner
If not killed, she will just freeze, the icewall and escape
Now what faggot?
>>339645345
And yet ive seen it happen mutiple times. Watch the killcam to see that ability i popped never actually happened
>>339646869
They are more fun killers than op. Good games can come to a halt due to some shitters play them
>>339655898
the wall is a valid tool I agree
most characters have a devastating ultimate and the better the character the more you get to use the ulti(i.e a useless character would never gain any charge except passively)
and mei is absolutely not able to take out multiple enemies because she can only deal with single characters at a time, by freezing and headshotting them slowly
How would Symmetra do against a Mei in a 1v1 situation? I think Mei would win everytime, unless she enter's Symmetra's reality (read: fucking wall turrets everywhere)
>>339648498
>Meanwhile all the other faggots are playing defense when on the attacking team
Someones gotta push anon
>>339641708
>pressing a button gives you the capability to kill an entire room of people
>balance
>>339656890
Ok true. But how many times is Mei on her own? Remember, if you have a team behind you, so does she. She just has to set up the pins for her team to finish the job. 1v1 is easy against her but in a team scenario shes a fucking pain in the ass
>>339657549
>Pressing lmb has the ability to stop room wipe
Oh shit, balance
>>339643373
>something is working incorrectly or inefficiently
>GET GUD NIGGA
>mfw
This isn't dark souls son, and I'm top 100 with pharah
>>339647135
>not using him as a hard support to harass with fire
>>339657552
mei deals shit damage
when she has frozen one person, mccree or tracer has outright killed one on her team
>>339633828
You have to understand that your role isn't to bludgeon, but to be the most annoying fucker in the entire game; so much so that the entire team wants to kill you. Such that they get distracted by trying to kill you, an your team then picks the retards who've focused on you, off.
She's basically: 12/10 bait the character.
>>339659480
>mei deals shit damage
>he never got hit by one of her ice pickles
>>339659894
Ice shard damage needs a nerf in my opinion. It deals 75 damage, 140 on headshot.
>>339659894
>ice pickles
>>339660175
It's slow as fuck though, so it doesn't do that much dps. It's main use is to pick off stationary snipers or headshot the shitters you freeze.
>>339632645
you don't have a baseball bat or your shotgun instead or your double capture passive instead you get two shitty auto pistols and a fucking bomb
>>339659894
>75-22 damage is a lot
meanwhile roadhog deals upwards to 225 damage per shot without headshots
>my dad works for nintendo
>dont like mario games
>>339633828
harass harass rewind harass blow up with ult
rince repeat, this is the cover art hero
>>339660595
Scout can't teleport or rewind any of his damage away though. Tracer is unkillable in a lot of situations.
>>339644551
im so bad but kek
>play toblerone on offense (route66)
>silver eliminations
>gold objective kills
>gold damage done
>gold objective time
>PotG
>zero commendations
>>339661157
It was from your turret, wasn't it?
>>339644551
Brilliant
char cards should be changed too though
>>339641087
>casual
>>339661557
Of course. How else would Toblerone get kills? I just parked it on the payload and stared at Widomakers ass for most of the game. Still I feel I deserved at least a few commendations.
I hate the aiming with soldier 76. I played damn near every popular FPS and the aiming isn't as bad as soldier 76.
>>339661901
I've seen this web m
>>339642603
It doesn't have as much range as Dvas, and it has like 50 HP. One non-charged widow shot can destroy it, one pharrah rocket can destroy it, one tracer mag can destroy it, etc...
In other words:git gud
>Tracer "flanks" me as Mercy
>shoot her in the face and pistol whip her to death
Reminds me of pub spies that tried to kill the Heavy before the Medic and ended up being Ubersaw fuel.
>>339661901
>How else would Toblerone get kills?
his m1 deals like 140 dps and his m2 150 per shot
>>339662249
Which is pretty retarded for a turret class in all honesty
>>339651689
point A on hanamura? That is absolute aids for flankers against any team that uses defense heroes effectively
>>339644587
Mcree is only getting a nerf so he isnt a tank murderer on top of what he already is. He will keep skillbang and fantheskill will still murder all flankers. Your bodyguard cowboy will still have a place.
>>339632342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSw4SqXba6Q
>tfw you'll never be this gud
>Be good at Pudge in Dotes
>Be excellent as Roadhog in OW
>>339662449
his turret isn't that powerful honestly, it's just very quick to react
he wouldn't be able to do anything if he had to rely on his sentry, it's not like in TF2 where it deals enough dps to kill most classes in one to two seconds
I mean the TF2 sentry deals over twice as much damage as torbjörns even though most classes have about 150 health on average, much less than in overwatch, and the TF2 sentry has burst damage in the form of rockets, too
symmetras gun is also really powerful for this reason
>>339645606
hes getting a nerf so he doesnt murder tanks with fanrollfan anon. he will still without a doubt murder anyone 250hp and under. i love playing genji and think meis are annyoing as shit, but once i actually played worth a damn i could kill them 1v1 most of the time if i was careful. please stop whining about mei
JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABaugh.
>>339659480
She can freeze people quick. Your scenarios are stupid and make no sense ingame
Can anyone help if I'd be able to run it? I'm on the site's specs and it seems like it's fine.
Is GeForce 600 the same thing as GeForce GT 600 series? Is GeForce GT 640 better than NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 (the minimum card that can run overwatch)? I'm assuming it is because I found discussions of the latter from 6 hears ago and the 640 came out in like 2012, 4 years ago.
pic related, my speccy
>>339662160
>like 50 HP
100
If it had 50 people would one shot it all the time.
Daily reminder that the most optimum way to play is with headphones. The game uses Dolby atmos to get 360 stereo sound. It makes hearing exactly where shit is coming from a lot easier
>Junkrat player talking smack in allchat
>>339664280
Should be able to play the game on the lowest settings.
>>339657267
>playing offense
>2 Hanzos, a widowmaker and a torbjorn
>our team gets bodied because only the other guy and me are pushing for the point
what the fuck is wrong with these players
what the fuck guys
>>339664280
No, 480 is a lot more powerful than the GT 640.
GTX is the main gaming series of GPUs and GT is just for casual use and it's not suitable for gaming. So no, you most likely won't be able to play it at a decent framerate.
>>339666636
shoot. ill go for very low settings, this guy said 640 worked on the beta and blizzard's specs say the GeForce 600 series is supported.
thanks, ill work on a new GPU. at the time i got it, the 640 worked fine but it's set me horribly behind, idk what im doing. everything else is in check though
>>339645606
>Look how fucking long it took melee to be anything but fox and falco everywhere.
Mario and Sheik were the dominant characters shortly after release.
>>339666635
AT LEAST I HAD FUN YOU AUTIST
>>339636532
That can also be for your advantage in avoiding the blast, or just detonate it on top of the car
>>339645606
It took them a while to find fox and falco because what makes them good hadn't been discovered in the game yet, not playing with a full deck. So unless you've discovered overwatch wavedashing be quiet.
>>339648498
>my shield breaks after trying to let offense retards shoot through it
>they didn't
>I am assured death in moments
>my options are
>run like a bitch and die
>whiff at air and die
>mash shift, hope to grab anything but a tank for a one shot, and die
Yeah, let me just pop my fly away button like a faggot, oh wait.
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