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Why is this console so fucking terrible?
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Why is this console so fucking terrible?
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because the PS2 existed
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because it was their first attempt and unlike nintendo and sony who were competing at the start of the race, microsoft had to catch up to both against their decades of experience.

it was a pretty damn good console considering its success gave them a niche in the market and forced themselves to be part of the big 3.
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It wasn't. The HUEG was a technically impressive console with a decent amount of good exclusives.
A shame it's successors couldn't live up to it's legacy.
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>>339593980
>decent amount of good exclusive
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>>339593883
Everyone I knew in high school who owned a PS2 was normally a piece of shit, to be honest.

Good kids had Xboxes.
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>>339593883
Rofl fucking sony niggers. How can it sell 100 million when there are only 7 million people on earth? Lmaoing at ur lifes
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Because they had no real backing and their only claim was Halo, an awful FPS series, and "better" versions of some multiplats.

It's still the best Microsoft console, but that really isn't saying much.

With that said, I'm insanely pissed that nobody is making an emulator for it.

Not for Xbox games, which were all shit, but for the Chihiro, which is literally the same thing with twice the RAM.
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>>339594105
you're retarded, haven't you read about the DRE?

each had to buy over 15 PS2 on average, sometimes up to 30 even
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>>339594130
>haha guys look I didn't like Halo when it came out definitely not only since v told me it was bad
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>>339594130
>Chihiro
why haven't they made a Nep out of this yet
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>>339593883
>resells = sold units
kek
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>>339594280
I didn't own an Xbox because I wasn't fucking retarded. When I played the game later on PC, I found only a completely sub-par FPS game instead of something proclaimed a system seller.

But hey, at least I made it to the end of the campaign, which is more than I can say for my attempts to play 2 and 3.

I'm sure you'll now tell me that they were superlative online games and the story didn't matter or something, and then I'll fucking laugh at you because I owned UT.
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>>339594063
True, PC nerds, Xbox dudes and GC Bros. were the cool guys. Ps2 kids were annoying af.
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The hueg isn't even that huge anymore.
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>>339594490
How long did you wait after release to play it?
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>>339594686
It's still a fucking monster.
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>>339594280
i was busy playing unreal and quake to play a shitty console fps made for people who still wake up at 9am saturdays to watch cartoons
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>>339594774
not really. at the time it was but it was the only console with a built in hard drive and a lot better tech
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>Splinter Cell Series
>Halo 2 Multiplayer for the first time
>Fable
>JSRF
>Shenmue
>DooM 3
>KOTOR: 1/2
>Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
>Time Splitters
>Psi Ops
>BLACK
>Brute Force
>Destroy All Humans

I can go on, anon.
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>>339594063
Lemme guess, PS2 kids bullied you at school?
Ya lonely little Xboner
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>>339594756
It came out on PC in 03 or so, I'm going to say I played it somewhere between 05 and 06. The game couldn't hold a candle to either my favorite console FPS, Timesplitters at the time, and it couldn't even touch shit like CS and UT on PC.
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>>339594490
>>339594873
What happened that made you become so bitter anon
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>>339594873
>muh quake
>muh UT

I always laugh to myself when I hear people brag that they played Quake or UT back in the day. So fucking what? So did everyone else and there's a reason that (even though personally I don't play them anymore) Halo has had consistent sequels since the early 2000s while quake hasn't had a game in 9 FUCKING YEARS.

Stop being an elitist faggot and grow up.
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>>339595120
Honestly I kind of wish Halo hadn't had a sequel in nine years either, should have ended at 3
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>>339595039
To be honest I remember getting in a really heated argument with a kid because I was the only kid in my grade with an Xbox while everyone else had PS2s and GCs.

Fucking Stephen Bell, dude. He can eat a dick.
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>>339595120
>there's a reason that (even though personally I don't play them anymore) Halo has had consistent sequels since the early 2000s while quake hasn't had a game in 9 FUCKING YEARS.
Because Microsoft spent billions marketing the series as the flagship killer app of their consoles?

It's pretty idiotic to compare console trash pumped out for pennies to a series that was taken in an awful direction and quietly killed off.
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>>339593780
It had JSRF which already makes it superior to 360 and bone.
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>>339593780
Because Xbox huge will survive WW4. And if you're lucky you MAY find an working ps2 that was conserved in a temperature controlled room.
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>>339595042
>waiting until 2006 to play Halo 1 and expecting a fresh, mindblowing experience

What the fuck
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>>339595264
I wasn't expecting a fresh, mindblowing experience. I was expecting something at least on par with titles from the same time. Half Life and Doom 2 blew Halo's campaign out of the water. For the hype, I was expecting something at least average.

I played Halo 2 pretty closely after too, just to see if the first game was just limited and the second greatly expanded the scope or something, similar to Timesplitters and Timesplitters 2. Instead I got a turd that wasn't even on par with the first game.
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>>339593895
if it wasn't for Bungie they would have sank hard. OG xbox became a Halo 2 machine and that's really why it sold. It did have other good games but Halo 2's online was the main reason a lot of kids flocked to it.

Giving a lot of kids their first experience at online FPS is what gave them the second place console that gen, and Halo literally made MS a mainstay console.
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>>339595473
>Doom 2
Anon, what.
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>>339595473
The hateboner is real
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>>339594280
Halo has always been just mediocre
It did nothing other games didn't do better
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xbox had gunvalkyrie, so it's alright with me. Still way better than the fucking gamecube.

Though it does of course lose out to the dreamcast and PS2.
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>>339595590
You don't think Doom 2 is fantastic? All the secrets, the neat level designs, it's a great campaign.

>>339595651
I'm sorry I didn't like your favorite childhood game. I hope you remember this in a decade when you're telling all the kids how stupid they are for loving Candy Crush.
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>>339595028
>Brute Force
>BLACK
>JSRF
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>>339595028
>Panzer Dragoon Orta
>Breakdown
>Gunvalkyrie
>NUDE
>Drihoo
>MWC
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>>339595675
That looks fun as fuck
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>>339595716
gizmos and gadets was my favorite childhood game actually

halo was just a better couch game to play with friends. asking somebody to come over for ut and cs is a lan party and while they're great they're a hassle when you can splitscreen on the same console
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>>339595028
>not mentioning Phantom Dust
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>Building a sub as big as a fucking Typhoon when we have smaller nuke poops swimming around already
Owhyo-class
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>>339595860
>>halo was just a better couch game to play with friends
I'm sorry that mommy didn't love you enough to buy you Timesplitters. It was even on the Xbox, I feel bad for you.
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>>339595796
I wish there was a better video to make a webm out of, but everyone on Youtube is dogshit at the game. There used to be one guy who knew how the game worked, but he privatized all his videos.

It's by the devs of Jet Set Radio and Panzer Dragoon, and it's basically a combination of the two. Fucking incredible, unfinished game.
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>>339593780
It's your opinion, you tell us
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Who remembers this crazy bullshit
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>Playing Halo when you could be playing Ninja Gaiden

Microsoft didn't even know what they had with the hueg.
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>>339595758
Brute Force > Overwatch
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>>339594130
People have been trying to make an emulator for it for a decade now but they can't figure out the nvidia card and Microsoft is never going to help that since they don't have a reason to
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>>339595948
Holy fuck I loved that game.

shit was hard when I was a kid, Barracuda was the shit

Also Cannons > Torpedos
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>>339595903
But I did have it, my friend and I loved playing it splitscreen you pretensions faggot. what other projections do you have for me
I'm not a bitter cunt that secludes myself to one medium and incite console war bull
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>>339596042
It's a matter of interest, not complexity. Nobody gives a shit about the Xbox, so they'll never make an emulator for it.
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>>339595948
This and crimson skies, and spy hunter.
I miss vehicle carnage games
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Why is this console so fucking GREAT
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>>339593883

Why do sony fans jack off over sales all day? In my experience, sony fans don't even play fucking games, they just own these multimedia centers and post online about sales performances.

Why don't you dickheads fuck off to las vegas - there's some big insurance sales conferences at the hotels there, you guys will go absolutely fucking wild.
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>>339595982
Everyone loved Halo, it was huge. It was the dawn of casual gaming.
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>>339595028
There was that strange SMT title also.
9?
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>>339595982
Imagine if it was released today, the only thing people would do would compare it to Dark Souls and scream artificial difficulty

What a horrible time for vidya
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>>339596123
It really is a matter of complexity, it's the same reason why a ps3 and 360 emulator will take forever because they were more complex than simple consoles like the Wii or PS2
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>>339596367
Nostalgiafagging faggot. Just one look at graphics today should tell you that games have improved drastically since the old days. Gaming today is at the medium's highest point so far.
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>>339596449
And the Wii U emulator?
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>>339596497
>better graphics means games are better
You actually believe this don't you.

I didn't even say anything bad about modern games
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>>339596497

>games are better today than ever before because their graphics are better

Holy shit. Pls go retard-kun.
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>>339593883
PS2 didn't have the two best games of the generation, Metroid Prime and Jet Set Radio Future.
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>>339596564
Wasn't there one that was running earlier this year? It could only do some mario game but it was progress. Betting one will exist in a year or so
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>>339596497
yeah except for the fact that gameplay is more shit in majority of the games now and mid tier studios are mostly dead.
what a great fucking generation
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OG Xbox was great.

>Ninja Gaiden (Black)
>JSRF
>Otogi 1 and 2
>Phantom Dust
>Genma Onimusha
>Gunvalkyrie
>Breakdown
>Outrun 2
>Blinx the Time Sweeper
>Panzer Dragoon Orta
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Twisted System was the only good minigame but god damn was it good.
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>>339596710
Neither of those games were good.
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>>339596736
>no mid-tier studios
>no studios taking risks on mid-budget games with some amount of polish but also not extremely predictable cookie-cutter AAA games
>everything is now AAA or fart-sniffing indie with absolutely no fucking in-between

it hurts lads
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>>339596901

Top post, I forgot all about this game. What a fucking good game.

>tfw pissing off all the neighborhood kids by stuntin' on niggas in that bug smashing game
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>>339596919
>less and less games made out of passion and more about what will make them money because AAA
hold me anon
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>>339596908
what a hot opinion. wew
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>>339596081

Lads

I feel the itch
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>every OG xbox thread I get a bad urge to play Kingdom Under Fire
>no emulator and xbox died years ago

Fuuuuuuuuck
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>>339595256

or protected by a case made out of original game boys
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>>339593780
Also it was simple to crack, replace the HDD and torrent all those new game
All you needed is a cracked savegame of mechwarrior or splinter cell.
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>>339597126

>tfw too bad to be any good at Kingdom under fire

Such a fun game bro. The main downfall was the names of the characters and villains though. Rick Miner is a shit name.
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>>339593780
I still use mine, my imouto gave me Halo 2 a little while ago.
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I played Morrowind on this piece of shit. Complete with 10 minute loading times. My stepfather would beat me if I stepped out of my room.

It was my only friend.
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>>339595256
except the OG Xbox is literally a time bomb
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Remember to change the capacitor that keeps the internal clock ticking or get rid of it all together because that motherfucker will explode.
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>>339596198
Because consoles back then were played on a blurry 480i/480p SDTV which help to cover flaws like resolution, low textures, aliasing, choppy framerate and low LOD.
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>>339595120
>>339595224
Halo's much more profitable, much easier to play, and was the first online game for a fucking ton of teenagers. Halo isn't bad but Halo is pretty much a dumbed down slower Quake for consoles. Everything Halo does has been done by Quake before but better, Halo just made a bigger profit because it's more accessible.
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>>339595001
Damn, the Xbone is hueg too. I haven't even seen one in person.
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>>339593883
>a hundred million poor Europeans and chinks, bought the cheapest piece of shit on the market

Cool
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>Easy to Mod
>Fun to Mod
>Good Graphics
>True Widescreen support
These games >>339596865 but anon forgot a few others. But still start here.

How is it terrible? Only weeabos who like jrps but never fucking finish those games would say such a thing.
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>>339597434
what? I don't want it to explode
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>>339596198
>Doom 3
>PC exclusive

Stop this bait, I remember seeing fucking Limited Editions and shit for Doom 3 on OG Xbox
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>>339597715
people who wanted majority of the good games also bought it
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>>339597787
It came out over a year after and every level was stripped down as well as the visuals. Only good thing was the added co-op
I wouldn't exactly call it bait because it's not an exclusive anymore but everybody will associate doom 3 with pc because the xb version was so shitty
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>>339597889
Well they must have been disappointed since the wobbleststion only got shovel ware garbage
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>>339596198
They had to do a LOT to get Doom 3 and Half Life 2 running on OG xbox. Like reduce the polygon count on mawmen by half to get HL2 running decently.

>>339595028
A lot of these games were on PC and PS2. Xbox did have some really solid multiplats though.
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Halo was the best Xbox game.
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>>339594063
>>339594431
>>339596209
>these mad as fuck xfags

I bet you were the lonely kids at schools, same as all the Sega fanboys
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>>339593780
But it's great though

>softmodded with a 500gb hdd
>all those pirated games
>emulators
>HTPC with XBMC
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>>339598006
>wobblestation
reddit its that way
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>>339597686
Just smaller than the OG xbox. But that giant fan inside keeps it cool as fuck.
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>people will still console war a system over a decade old
>people who console war at all
WEW LADS you know you can buy these consoles for chump change and enjoy both now right? stop being a bandwagon corporate cocksucker
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>>339598006
yes, the console had a lot shovel ware.
and it also had some of best games of the gen as exclusives to make up for it
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>>339598569
delete this
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>>339595028
>Listing multiplats

Some things never change
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>>339595120
But Quake and UT were good.
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>>339598670
Were they on Playstation or GC?
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>>339594063
>>339594540
Fuck off cunts.
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PS2 felt like a fucking cheap plastic toy every time you touched it
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>>339598737
A good chunk of 'em were.
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>>339599036
>Playstation is superior
>literal sonygger
writes itself
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>>339599036
>PS2 version of multiplats
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>>339599036

>nigger spends all his welfare gibsmedats on a few games and a 240p camera

top lol tyrone
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>>339599287

NICE GAME COLLECTION LMAO
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>>339599036
>>339599287
It amazes me how many replies these get every
time with often the same joke somebody else made
You shits are so predictable
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH58RJvteKA
The best console ever
I wish we could have an emulator already.
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>>339597126
Find a new one on Craigslist or something.
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>>339599957
>best console ever
>limited exclusives that are mostly niche as hell

Come on SON. I do wish there was decent emulation of it though, really don't feel like buying an xbox and modding it.
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>>339600406
>limited exclusives that are mostly niche as hell
what is this even suppose to mean? Are niche's a bad thing?
Xbox had all the best exclusives and better graphic's. It aesthetics were also really cool and didn't feel dead and empty like ps2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIbI6I5adWQ
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>>339593780

It's pretty good actually. Better than either of the subsequent consoles I feel.
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>>339593780
How hard would the Xbox have bombed if it weren't for Halo CE?
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What?

While the Xbox had plenty of issues, it was and still is a great console. It introduced and/or improved upon many things we take for granted today.

Xbox Live for better or worse.
Harddrives
Etc.

I got my original Xbox as a gift and wasn't super interested in it outside of PGR and Halo. But now having since sold my OG and bought a new one a couple years ago, I regret not putting more time into it. I was all about my PS2 back then, and random PC games like F15 Strike Eagle and Big Game Hunter.

Mechassault
Orta
JSRF
Sega GT
Phantom Dust
Gunvalkyrie
Project Gotham
Forza 1
Shenmue
Crimson Skies
and then better ports of stuff like Area 51, etc.

I think it was a great first effort, and having watched the G4 icons episode for it I find the concept and creation very interesting

It led them right into the 360 which in the US seemed to mostly kick the PS3's ass even if it was the lesser console.

The Xbox brand really frustrates me but the Original Xbox has this aura that keeps me coming back to it every once and awhile.

I think I'll pull it out and play Mechassault or Crimson Skies tonight, I have a duke and a S, so might even pull that pos out.
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>mfw my friend tried to explain why halo was the second coming of christ in 2003
>"What the hell? How can he be a master AND a chief? That sounds stupid."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG6ok9-nJR4
>That feel when you don't have a copy of this game or an xbox anymore
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>>339593780

>Halo CE and Halo 2 nights

What's it like being a little faggot, OP?
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>>339601774

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Chief_Petty_Officer_of_the_Navy
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>>339595001
I like how you can see how the aesthetics evolved.
>21st century rule of cool plastic shapes because gaming is fun
>tryhard game bro sleekness because gaming is serious business
>wonky postmodernist angles because gaming is a art
>"let's just slap some different textured panels on to a box because gaming is for gullible retards"
>
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>>339602451
ECM5 when?
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>>339593780
What console? All i see is in that picture is submarines and borg cube
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>>339594063
>>339594105
>>339594431
>>339596209
>>339598243
>>339596710
>>339597715
>unironic brand loyalty
wew lads.

It's just an interesting statistic.
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>>339593883
> Xbox original barely outsold the GameCube

Still surprised to see it after so many people declared it a two horse race
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>>339593780
Hueg had pretty good games though and some of them are overlooked . I'd say it was the most underrated console of that gen.
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>>339602960
>Halo
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>>339599957

>MS openly helped developers instead of telling them "Git Gud" when using the SDK
>Gave smaller Japanese and Western Studios a chance at making 1st party games promoted as big titles
>After Sony's "2D Ban" on selling 2D games at full price. Helped SNK Sell full price titles in the west with online play and allowed Capcom to sell the 15th Anniversary SF Collection which was so popular, Gamestop kept selling out of copies and Capcom had to order more re-prints.
>Had a diverse portfolio of fun and unique 1st party games like Crimson Skies and Midtown Madness 3 despite the overwhelming popularity of Halo
>Would send Xbox Live subscribers gifts in the post like free T-shirts, magazines and demo discs

Why was the xbox huge so based? Why was this man far too based for this gay industry?
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>>339603057
>blazer over hoodie
I don't know if that's a PR ploy or even fashionable at all, but god help me it makes me respect him just a little more.
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The HUEG and pre-Kinect 360 were bretty solid consoles.

Fuck you Mattrick.
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>>339600663
PS2 had drastically better exclusives and more exclusives overall. Yakuza, MGS, Ratchet n Clank, Jak, Twisted Metal Black, Devil May Cry. That shit's just off the top of my head and all of those are series with excellent entries in them.

Xbox was good but the PS2 had the best library around, everything in the next gen looked like shit in comparison to the PS2.

>>339602960
Unreal Championship was pretty slick. Played that a few times at a friends and it seemed like a really solid blend of shooting and melee combat mixed in a multiplayer type game. Also had shock combos n shit. Shame Halo choked out any other multiplayer game on the console.
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I legit barely knew anyone with a PS2, and the ones that did were jocks and jerks that only played sports and made fun of people who played actual video games.
Except for one kid, who was my best bud and he and his bro loved games and had an xbox, gc and ps2.

Jerks and jocks also had Xboxes but those guys played Halo and shit. Didn't know too many people who had GCs either honestly most kids just played on their Gameboy and later their DS and didn't even have a console.
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>>339594012
Hueg had Sega games. It's enough to beat 360 library.
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>>339603380
It's the "I'm a professional adult but inside I'm a teenager who like to pwn noobs online" look.
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>>339603380

Not only did he wear that. He sat down on stage and told everyone that publishers have no right to ship broken games. Japanese developers are important to the industry so they would continue investing in Japan even if they weren't successful in Japan and everything about the 360 was designed around the gamer first. Even the secondary media functions were based on the communities work with XBMC.

The absolute fucking madman.
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>>339603057
>MS openly helped developers instead of telling them "Git Gud" when using the SDK

They had to do that if they wanted to compete.

>After Sony's "2D Ban" on selling 2D games at full price. Helped SNK Sell full price titles in the west with online play and allowed Capcom to sell the 15th Anniversary SF Collection which was so popular, Gamestop kept selling out of copies and Capcom had to order more re-prints.

That's pretty legit, never knew about this. Shame xbox became synonymous with xbro FPS gamer nonsense.
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>had the best multiplats
>had a handful of cool exclusives
In retrospect it was pretty decent.
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>>339603692
>That's pretty legit, never knew about this.

MS Also helped Arc, SNK and Capcom implement online play. The resurgence in interest in 3rd Strike was down to that Xbox version.

Xbox was a huge (lel) and varied console. MS ended up doing a lot of good they will never get credited for because they are M$.
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>>339603689
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>>339603997
Is it the fate of all companies to become greedy, uncaring and lazy when they hit the big times?
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>>339604058
fuck you for making me horny for UAB again
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>>339603997
They kinda became cunts, but pushing for console online to become a standard was actually really cool.

They've probably done more to progress modern consoles than Nintendo has.
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>Stephen
Isn't that a girls name?
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>>339603515
I don't care for any of those games though so at best ps2 having better exclusives is just an opinion
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ps3 """""""""""slim""""""""
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>>339604551

No, that's Stephanie or whatever.
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>>339604806

>PS3 slim struggles to maintain 65 degrees celsius under load
>Xbox averages 50

PS3 is built like shit
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>>339595028
>>DooM 3
>>KOTOR: 1/2
>>Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
>>Fable

all better on PC. most of the others were available on cheaper consoles with the same performance, some of them might have been on PC too. i dunno
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>>339596710
Marry me anon.
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>>339595675
Well now I know why I never really got into that game. Looks like I was playing it incredibly wrong.
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>>339595796

It controls like shit, because it was designed for the Dreamcast controller.
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Xbox is more powerful than Wii.
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>>339593883
>Having your PS2 stood up like that
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>>339605230
Between 2000-2007 only retards and virgins owned gaming PCs.
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>>339593883
>>>339594063 >>339594105 >>339594431 >>339596209 >>339596710 >>339597715 >>339602903 >>339606310

>/v/ is so dedicated to being contrarian shitpost kings that they claim the fucking PS2 is the worst of its generation

It's time to just shut this board down
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>ywn play custom maps of Far Cry Instincts on Xlink kai every saturday ever again
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>>339604420

It's a real old fag thing but J Allard ripped into the PC gaming industry at the time and said incidents like the launch of Half Life 2 (Buggy as shit launch and Steam was complete fucking trash) were unacceptable so they were implementing a policy that publishers on 360 had to ship a working game or pay QA costs for a patch because it was unacceptable for customers to have to wait to play a game they just bought and just because 360 had hard drive capability, it didn't entitle publishers to just fix mistakes later. They had one free patch, but after that it was $40,000 or so per patch afterwards. This policy even included the indies they signed.

It all went to shit when Allard and Moore left because devs started crying how steam and Sony were giving them free patches so they could ship what they liked so it made MS look like the bad guy for saying "Don't ship a broken game". Now it's standard that games ship with problems.

There was a book by one of the original 4 co-creators of the Xbox huge who left in 2010 and it's heartbreaking near the end of it because Matrick was fracturing the entire division, even froze out the MS studios and Xbox Live teams from decision making and only allowing an inner circle of management, never mind it's relation to the rest of MS and everything just broke down that people weren't as happy to work because they were making as big a contribution to the company like they were under the original Xbox teams and even talented teams with game ideas were being forced into making "Apps" or Kinect because that was the direction.
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>>339604918
all ps3's have poor build issues, the thermal paste and solder is incredibly cheap. And, like every playstation console, they put the power supply in the console instead of using a power brick cable. Which means that if you don't use a surge protector, you'll fuck up the console itself if the power surges.

the 360's were built pretty bad too, they overheat way too easily and have a really annoying sticking disc tray problem. It's telling how unprofessional the problem is when their official solution is to get a paper clip and poke at hole in the disc tray that they specifically built to combat the problem.

The wii was really the only 7th gen console with average-to-good build quality.
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>>339606653
But it's true, PS2 was the Iphone of the 6th generation.

Shitty hardware but every normie loves it because it's popular.
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>>339606919
>hardware matters
This is the state of this board.
The PS2 won because it has the best library of games of any system ever made.

If hardware mattered the Vita wouldn't be dead and the 3DS would have sold 10 units.
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>>339607035
PS2 won because it was cheap DVD player.
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>>339607035
>the best library of games of any system ever made.

That was the PS1 or SNES.

You only say that because PS2 was your first console, so you need to justify it somehow.
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>>339607174
fucking this, any other argument is pure delusion. if the PS2 didn't play DVD movies out of the box the sales numbers would be much closer to even.
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>>339607217
I'd say the SNES is second with the PS1 behind it. PS2 just had a fucking stunning library.

>>339606919
and bros loved the xbox because it could let them play shewtan gaems online. That's literally what drove the xbox to success, online fps games. The main driving forced behind PS3 and 360 sales are the CoD games.

>>339607254
Pretty true. The vast majority of consumers don't care about a good and diverse library of games. Granted, the PS2 developed that because Sony had developed solid third party support and they had a ton of units shipped.
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>>339593780

>Xbox Hueg
>terrible

What the fuck are you talking about? It's easily the most underrated console in existence, and this is coming from someone who grew up with a PS1 and later a PS2. I fucking wish I got an Xbox as a kid, I only bought one later on when I grew up.

Don't conflate the shittyness of Microsoft later on with the 360 and the Xbone. The OG Xbox was great with tons and tons of good underrated exclusives, yeah sure all the casuals knew about was Halo, but if you weren't a fucking casual shitstain you'd know the console has a fucking good library, plus it's highly moddable. A hacked OG Xbox is literally the best console available since it allows you to mod games just like a PC. It's literally just a weaker PC pretty much.

Plus Xbox hueg generally had the best versions of multiplat games if they didn't also go to PC.
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>>339593883
PS2 wasn't that great of a console though. It sold well because it was the successor to the PSX and Microsoft was new to the scene. Fast forward a generation and the 360 and PS3 pretty much broke even in sales. Reports say the PS3 edged out the 360 toward the end, but so edgy.
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>>339607035
The Xbone had/has better exclusives than the PS4, but the combination of hardware and pricepoint always decides the generation.
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>>339608860
The Xbone's abysmal announcement conference and beyond stupid 'always online' and 'no used games' policies killed it more than the slightly worse hardware and higher price tag, IMO.

What didn't help it either was that the latest Halo and Gears of War games on 360 were pretty shit, and those exclusives were what tied a LOT of people to the brand, myself and most of my friends included. If Halo 4 was as good as the Bungie games I'd probably have an Xbone right now.
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>>339593780
That console came out with some serious problems out the bat. What with using a computer hard drive and building it more like a computer on Microsofts was a really risky move. Of course it came with tons of glitches which were the patched off. To this day Xbox shows that it was really a pioneer and very ambitious console. The quality of the later units really show how good that console was. I don't think it was shit at all considering it had better specs and performance compared to the PS2 and gamecube. Just slightly more expensive.

>>339594063
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>339594130
Halo back then was fucking rad. it wasn't what it is now for sure. Fan base was a lot better and it really was flavor of the next few years with great gameplay and multiplayer fun.
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>>339593780
i have not known a single Xbox owner ever in real life, even less so gamecube, it's either PC for poor people or PS2+PC that gen
next gen i knew a lot of people who owned 360 but solely because of CFW, those people were making petitions to get good games AKA PS3 Exclusives getting ported to PC or 360 since they couldn't afford it.
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>>339606653
I didn't say it was the worst of the gen, I said having the console standing up like that is stupid.
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>>339609945
are you brazilian or some shit?
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>>339595028
>PC games series
>worst FPS of all time
>PC Game
>Literally what
>I'll give you that one
>PC Game
>PC Games
>Literally What x2
>another pretty average FPS
>Literally What x3
>PS2 Game
>Literally What x4
>PS2 Game
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>>339610357
>Jsrf
Guess you just don't understand.
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>>339609945
I don't know a single person who had a PS2. Everyone knew it as the weeb console, all the cool kids and Dreamcast owners had an Xbox and everyone else had a Gamecube, with some people playing FPS or Sim games on PC. The only time people had a PS2 was because of the DVD player.

PS2 wasn't bad, however it is by far the most overrated console. If you didn't like the exclusives it was worthless, Gamecube and Xbox were generally better for multiplats.
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>>339610313
the fuck? No, and what does Brazil have to do with anything? Do they even fucking have video games there?
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>>339599084

Did they run at 480P 60FPS like the Xbox versions did?
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Playing Halo 2 for the first time recently, it's pretty good. What's so bad about the Xbox?
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>>339594105
>7 million people
Are you fucking retarded

Its 7 BILLION. Makes a lottle more sense now, yes?
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>>339610750
Huehuehues play a ton of games, they apparently also love online ones, especially shitty Korean mmos
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>>339609307
>The Xbone's abysmal announcement conference and beyond stupid 'always online' and 'no used games' policies killed it
The average consumer was never aware of these manouvers.
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>>339610775
Nothing, 360 was where Microsoft started going full retard with both console and PC gaming.
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>>339610762
Nice, PS2 version looks better. Emotion Engine really putting in that work, no wonder Katuragi went insane and thought he could get away with it again.
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>>339610357

:^)
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>>339610750
In Brazil, most still play on PS2 to this day. PS2 still selling like hotcakes in Brazil.

You can go to Brazilian villages and watch Brazilian kids playing RE4 on PS2 for the first time like it was the greatest time of their lives.
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>>339610732
yeah but like you wouldn't even see that shit in stores, i honestly, being a disconnected from the internet dude in the very early 00s since we still had shitty dial-up, 3G or really slow ethernet as options didn't even know either Dreamcast or Gamecube existed until like 2004 and there wasn't any weeb shit on the PS2 either. Everyone who owned a console owned a PS2, everyone who didn't, owned a PC.
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>>339611015
It's almost two different games.
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>>339610845
nigga i'm not from the US, i know nintendoshit's big there apparently or something, but if anything both xbox and nintendoshit were always the poor man's playstation consoles, all the way up to now really, since the start.
>>339610861
i bet they play MOBAs too, well those aren't really vidya games so whatever
>>339611017
hahaha lolz, wouldn't shitty laptops be cheaper though? or is that a thing too complex for them?
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>>339610930
Ah. Well I hope that this box lasts then.
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>>339610923
It was splashed all over the 360's dashboard pretty much from the moment it was announced to encourage users to tune in on their Xbox to watch it; the other two issues were all over the "gaming media" headlines as well, and in this day and age I'd wager that most console players at least take a casual look at some form of gaming outlet online.
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>>339611061
this is why i asked if you were brazilian, it comes across in your posts like you're from some shitty poor country.
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>>339595028
Don't forget the myriad of lesser known games, from Blinx to Whacked, and so on.
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>>339611210

>Make stealth game based on lighting
>Every console but Xbox has garbage T&L
lol
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>>339610357

>all those literally what's

Back to readit casual. Every game he listed there is decently well known that even if you haven't played them you should recognize the names.

Also some of those PC games there were actualy ported to PC later, aside from Doom 3 of course, and the Xbox version of a game will always be better than the PS2 version. Like Metal Arms for example, the different between the PS2 and Xbox version is amazing.
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>>339611210

The difference is staggering

For comparison. PS2 version of THPS4 runs at 512x444 on PS2. 640x480 on GC. 1280x720 on Xbox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJX1pU2yYIg
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>>339611210
>screenshots with the nightvision goggles turned on

Come on SON

xbox multiplats did look a shitton better. Sure as hell wouldn't call it the better console but it was definitely strong.
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>>339610840
Are YOU fucking retarded? How could that many people fit on the earth?
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>>339611397
but why so? PS2 had a lot more games and they were usually more expensive and the brand itself was seen more premium than xbox shit, even through the PS360 times too.
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The OG huge had great Japanese exclusives. Plus I was too underage to convince parents for PC parts so I enjoyed multiplats on Xbox, especially motherfucking Chaos Theory.
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>>339593780
Why is Nippon ship so small?
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>>339593780
I loved mine.

Panzer Dragon Orta, Halo, PGR, Dead or Alive 3 JSRF, Mechassault, Vodoo Vince, Kotor, Splinter Cell, Silent Hill 2. Man I was an happy kid back then.
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>>339611629
Not him, you can fit a fucking TON of people in an Asian Ghetto.
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>>339598065

>playing ps2 version of a multiplat

are you dumb or just gay?
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>>339593780

It wasn't.

It was a pirate's/modder dream.

Modded Xbox + HDD Upgrade + XBMC = WIN
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Still has the best mech game.
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>>339611494
i don't think Xbox was a well known console enough to have "well known games" desu famillia.
Everybody knows DMC3 or fucking R&C or J&D or NFS or ICO or Shadow of the Colossus or Socom or BLACK or the 3D-era GTA games, and i know not all of those are exclusives but those are just from on top of my head, like Xbox pretty much didn't exist until 360
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>>339611928
that's not Armored Core tho
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>>339595947
>Expecting a logical answer on v
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>>339612051
Fromdrone pls
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>>339593883
Wow a Zombie console sold almost as much as Xbox?
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>>339594431
>resells
tell me you're not this retarded, you can't be this retarded
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>>339611853
The whole modding thing is what made me so attracted to the Xbox.

If it was a locked box like modern consoles or the PS2, i probably wouldn't be too interested in it.

But the fact it could emulate the PS1, N64, almost every SNES and Saturn game. Plus even run linux, was just too much, i had to get one at all costs.
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I remember being convinced into buying one because my maths teacher said it was the best console. I had to save money with my sis to buy it (400€) but in the end it was worth it.

My only regret was never being able to play Phantom Dust. We only got Phantom Crash. It was ok too
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>>339607035
uhh.... I think you mean SNES buddo.

>I love how this google picture includes fucking bubsy. Oh well. got the classics in there I'll post it.
You get the idea.
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>>339611640

Custom soundtracks made so many xbox games outshine their ps2/gc counterparts.

Games like GTA and Burnout with your own music were so great.
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>>339609945
the fuck how old were you when ps2, gamecube, and xbox were relevant?
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>>339612310

too bad the Xbox360 never really got fully cracked.

the original Xbox had limitations and couldn't play 720p videos properly on XBMC.
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>>339612201
The Game Cube was at $99 and it wasn't a sloucher either. It had much better graphics than the PS2 and some games could rival, if not even beat the Xbox performance-wise.
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I had Xbox
Friends A and C had Gamecube
Friend B had PS2

Melee, Halo, and single player Xbox games were what we generally played. PS2 didn't see much use at all.
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>>339611853

What a beauty. God I wish I had one as a kid. I remember playing a seconds cousins modded Xbox once and feeling my draw drop when I realized he could mod it, and had like 80 games on the hard drive, then seeing how smooth they played and all the lighting. Then I went home and played my downgraded PS2 ports and it just wasn't the same.

I own 2 Xbox huegs now though and I love them.

>>339611774

DOA2 Ultimate is such a fucking pretty game, and the fact that it's moddable too holy shit so good.

>>339611953

If you haven't heard of Chronicles of Riddick you are pretty fucking new. Not only does it have 3 fucking films staring Vin Diesel, but it got a PC port and later a sequel. It is no way niche.

I will give you maybe Psi Ops since it's legit niche even though it gets threads here occasionally, but Brute Force was advertised heavily at the time of release, and if you aren't underaged or new to gaming you'd have known that, and JSRF is a cult classic that everyone knows about.
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>>339612519
well idk, i think i got a PS3 in 2007 New Year, it was an 80gb model but i wanted it since 2005 at least, i think that's when PS2 stopped being relevant, in 2005 i was 12 or something, idk, it's hard to know since my birthday's like the middle of the summer so meh, but it should be about correct
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>>339612884
oh yeah Riddick, i know that movie, it had bald guy, either vin diesel or that guy from Die Hard, pretty boring so i never finished one i think, didn't know there was a game to it
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>>339593883

congratulations anon, you just made a whole lot of people mad.

btw, the bunch here shitting on ps2 are just young fags that never lived through it.
they only pretend to know of that time.

because now they game on pc or wii u, anything sony is shit by default, cause goes agains't their console war oath.

ps2 was incredible, goddamn good times, damn, miss it.
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>>339612884
i don't think i know what JSRF stands for, then i might know it
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>>339593780

>hardware so terrible it couldn't be emulated
>video game traders won't take xbox's because they are almost always broken

I will never play jet set radio future.
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>>339593780
Thanks for reminding me, I need to watch "The Hunt For Red October" again. Fucking awesome movie.
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>>339613182

The Chronicles of Riddick film is terrible, but the first one, Pitch Black is fantastic, and the newer Riddick film is okay too.

The Chronicles of Riddick game is much better than the film. Escape from Butcher Bay is a classic, though I haven't played Assault on Dark Athena yet.

>>339613273

Jet Set Radio Future. Sequel to Jet Grind Radio on Dreamcast.
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>>339594105

>I'll pretend to be a retard, pople will sureley love my joke and others will take teh bait.

GTFO 360 spin nigger
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>>339593780

ITT: Falseflaggers try to hard
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>>339610840
Jesus Christ dude.
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>>339593780

I dont understant why early internet hate original xbox because the size.
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That machine could pump out some beastly graphics for what was essentially an off-the-shelf PC from 2001.
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Guys I need help remembering a game I really liked on the Xbox OG, I only ever hired it but never bought it. I think it was set in China or the setting was inspired by China and it was an action/fighting game where you beat up lots of enemies (not dynasty warriors) and some parts of the level had weapons and stuff you could pickup. I remember that it was quite varied in its setting like one level was up on this mountain temple another was along the top of a bridge. I only vaguely remember so I wish I could give a better description. Not Jade Empire either.
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>>339610357
>halo 2 bad
>halo 1 2 or 3 bad

Get out underaged contrarian fag.
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>>339613554
Oh Jet Set Radio, i know that, had one of those games for a chinese GBA knock off i think until i lost it and swapped for PSP, that's probably a good game
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>>339597715

Europe turned to Playstation after Nintendo began fucking up the console there, starting with the N64, it had very few games in Europe so they turned to PS1.

PS2 was the natural replacement for PS1 since it ran all your PS1 games and could play DVD's. It was cheaper than many DVD players at the time too.
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>>339614121
Nihontō Complex
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>>339613913
It's genuinely impressive a hardware with 64mb of ram managed to run Riddick.
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>>339593780
anyone have that gif where it shows the relative size of planets until it shows an xbox at the end?
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>>339612425
>Bubsy

>>339611510
Wasn't this a huge pain for developers to make the same game multiple times just for it to work on multiple consoles? I feel like multiplats now must be piss easy but the PC version of Chaos theory is still somehow superior to a lot of console multiplats.
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>>339593883
It only sold more because everyone burnt through them so quickly and there were so many versions

Xbox had 1 edition
lasted forever

PS2 has a few editions
crapped out pretty easily

>inb4 "but muh PS2 lasted me forever I still have it"

Cool, you were the one kid that had a good one
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>>339593780
I loved it, mostly because Xbox Live. Without the Xbox Hueg console multiplayer would look pretty different today, Microsoft really knew what they were doing.
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>>339614367
>It's genuinely impressive a hardware with 64mb of ram managed to run Riddick.

or Doom 3.
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>>339594105
I bought 500 of them personally so it's possible
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>>339614775

Or Half-Life 2
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>>339614364
What's happening here?
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>>339614945
>>339614775
>>339614367
>>339613913

Alot of somewhat demanding games back then that the xbox never missed a frame

Halo series
Mech assualt
Pretty much any shooter that had a long draw distance

even on 2 player split screen me and my friend never experienced frame drops, such a solid console

though HL2 surprises me
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>>339610840
You swallowed more bait than a thai hooker on a saturday night swallows cocks.
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>>339615116
he took some pill, probably anti anxiety or speed. Legally prescribed of course.
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>>339614629
>making up excuses
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>>339614629

>Xbox had 1 edition
>lasted forever
Only looks like it from the outside, the original Xbox had 7 or more different versions with significant changes inside.
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>>339602024
I must have played through that game over a hundred times now
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