rx480
>beats gtx980 at only $200 = 180euros
http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/31/amds-radeon-rx480-gpu-is-vr-ready-for-just-199/
I will fuckin buy this new meme & gift my 750ti to wife's son
>>339576175
950SE was the new 750Ti anon.
>>339576175
>150W
no thanks
>>339577851
ok then spend $400 on a 1070 just so that you save $4 worth of electricity in a YEAR
>>339578041
I think he meant how it uses 150w instead 75W.
>>339578113
how fuckin poor can these fools be. they should just game on a ps2
>caring about your cards wattage
KEK
>>339578212
third world countries like the US have to pay an outrageous rate for electricity compared to most west EU countries
>>339578164
that's not only about energy, it also requires more space, it heats more, need an extra cable from the PSU
it doesn't have anything to do with 750Ti
it's AMD so shit drivers and OpenGL performance
200 $ card that can run vr, what does this mean for consoles. Surely this is the time to release xbox 2 and ps5 with real gpu power?
>>339578268
>doesnt know that the U.S. has a golde standard for energy reserves and natural gas fracking while EU gets completely cucked by the Middle East for its gas reserves and sucks Russia's dick for coal
>>339578318
my africaan, the rx4800 surpasses the gtx980 and you comparing it to a 750ti?
its about 5 times as powerful
>>339578268
Electricity is dirt cheap in the US
You'd know if you were old enough to pay an electric bill
>>339578408
i know that is faster, since is newer, but it doesn't fit all the use cases that a 750Ti does thus it isn't a "successor" my retarded anon
is like saying that a Ducati is a successor of your everyday bike, because IT'S FASTER!
Does it matter if you keep an external HDD full?
>>339576175
Does AMD just have cheaper manufacturing costs? Are they taking a loss for each of these they sell?
everything but power is a meme. especially for /v/.nobody cares how hot it is, how much psu it uses, any of that other stuff. unless its literally ruining the card with its heat or your shit psu cant run it
>>339576175
200$ gpu in US is 240€ in most eu countries
>>339578736
no. nvidia is like buying a bmw youre paying a premium for the brand. amd is like a fucking moped so they sell as cheap as theyre made
>>339578664
full of what
>>339576175
>tfw have 750ti
>will replace it with this almost 100%
meme magic
>You could also run two RX480 units simultaneously, a configuration that managed to beat out NVIDIA's GTX 1080. (And better yet, that configuration would only be around $400, compared to $600 or more for the 1070.)
FUCK LADS ITS OVER
well for people who have a motherboard capable of this
>>339578949
memes bro...memes
swim in dat meme river & you wont get BLACKED
Can someone explain to me if this would be a decent upgrade to my 750Ti? Poor/dumbfag reporting in
>>339579009
How could anyone possibly tell you before all the benchmarks are in
>>339578985
>still believing on CrossFireX/SLI meme
enjoy your not so micro stutters
>>339578212
this
>>339578393
>Dumb fuck American thinks any other nation but his is retarded enough to use gas and coal for power
>>339578268
i live in Brazil and pay only R$150 for electricity
>>339579153
I'm sorry you live in brazil.
>>339576175
Wonder how well the 480 overclocks
>>339579153
I'm sorry you live in brazil.
>>339576175
Will this card play GTAV at maximum settings 1080p60?
I mean maximum, with the extended distance sliders and grass settings on ultra and MSAA enabled.
>>339579089
Direct X 12 should be able to get rid of that, but I don't see any games supporting it.
>>339578736
>Does AMD just have cheaper manufacturing costs? Are they taking a loss for each of these they sell?
No, they just use third world materials and standards to make the cheapest Chinese tier trash possible.
>>339579231
probably like shit, like all the late AMD cards
>>339576175
I bought a 390x in January and now i already want to upgrade.
Should i do it lads?
>>339578318
you know the rx480 has only one six pin connector and it uses hbm memory right?
>>339579306
yes
>>339576175
Holy shit. Why is it so cheap?
Cool. I'll get this.
>>339576175
>more expensive
No. It doesn't beat the 750ti
>>339579469
AMD
>>339576175
I doubt it'll be as powerful as a 980. I'm thinking slightly better than 390 performance.
>>339579241
Everything including AA completely maxed out? I doubt it. Even a 980 at 1080p has trouble. Turn the AA down, then probably.
>>339579241
at that point you're more CPU bound, it won't do shit on a $7 Xeon or a i3 laptop
>>339579342
you know that the 750Ti has no energy connector, being fed only through the PCI-E slot right?
>>339579306
no your 390x is stronger and with an overclock can probably reach 7 tflops
>>339579306
no
you'd have to be a retard to buy a new gpu every year
>>339579706
I got the Sapphire Nitro and it doesn't overclock for shit.
>>339579141
That's not my point, you uneducated Yurocuck.
We have a massive amount of energy reserves on domestic land and you're tonguing Iran and Russia's sweaty assholes to keep the lights on.
>>339579641
thats good if its fed by its own slot but why are you in the thread if you don't have any intention of getting the card? it seems that if its only benefit is the power then I don't think its really worth just sticking to that. that is unless you can't upgrade right now.
>>339579306
yes
>>339579342
It doesn't use hbm memory right
>>339576175
So from specs alone it looks like competitor to 1070, but half the price... fuck, i need benchmarks pronto. Won't believe this till I see some independent proof
>>339579260
Are you saying that Ashes is not enough? Have you forgotten that it's a best game ever that was totally made by a competent dev and in no way affiliated with AMD?
>>339576175
thanks marketer, it's time I updated my 750ti
>>339579306
It's not going to be any more powerful. It wouldn't be an "upgrade" at all. You'd be better off getting a 1070 or waiting to see if they release a 490.
Even if it's slower than a 1070 I'm buying one of these. Still chugging along with an i5 2500 so I don't want to bother getting a very expensive video card. This should tide me over for another few years.
>>339580413
This
>>339576175
AMD WON
>>339580413
is any game actually limited by an i5 2500 regardless of the gpu your using?
>>339578268
No one cares then, if you're using the internet in an actual 3rd world country (UK for example) then stop wasting electricity
>>339576175
Good enough for me when my current card is a HD 5850. My only hope is that I can get a card with DVI output instead of HDMI. Currently use that port for the PS3 and I do occasionally play Ace Combat: Infinity on it.
>>339579264
>third world materials and standards to make the cheapest Chinese tier trash possible.
"The Radeon RX 480 is based on the 14 nm "Ellesmere" silicon, fabbed by GlobalFoundries. It's publicly known that GloFlo has a 14 nm fab in Malta (upstate New York), USA."
http://www.techpowerup.com/223040/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-launched-at-usd-199
#REKT
>>339577851
>>339577851
> High bandwidth memory
no shit you need 150w, stuff runs at like 30ghz
>>339580947
not really
2500K will go down in history as the best consumer chip ever made
I have no doubt that an overclocked 2500K will last for another 10 years for gaming
so 980s are worth about $100 now lol
>>339581683
and few years from now they say the same about 1080
>>339576175
>200$
Is this is true im getting one and crossfireing it with my 390
Like, holy shit.
What kinda toilet witch magic is this card made with to be so cheep
>>339581409
I'd give it to the first gen i3s anon. Those still run everything especially overclocked. They are approaching 7 years old
>>339580947
On stock speeds yes.
Witcher 3 for example would have big frame rate issues on stock speeds in the cities where a lot of CPU power is needed.
But most 2500K's overclock to 4.5Ghz easily, and that gets rid of the CPU bottleneck in those areas.
$200 means about €300 with all the import taxes and shit. Still seems like a pretty good deal. I am running an R7-200 and an upgrade to the RX480 would probably be a good idea.
Looks like I may finally replace my HD 7850
>>339582384
>i3
>overclocked
I think you're confused
>>339579264
You're an idiot who doesn't know how chips are made.
The dies are made by fabs like Global Foundries/ TSMC/ Samsung.
The actual PCB's those dies sit on are then made by the various third party card resellers like Sapphire/ ASUS/ EVGA/ MSI.
There is no difference in material quality between AMD and Nvidia, except you pay a premium to get fucked raw up the ass by architectural fuck ups like 3.5GB, and planned obsolescence through diminished driver support for older cards (see Keplar, observe current Maxwell driver trend) when you buy Nvidia.
>>339582654
Nah you are just senile. The first gen i3s were overclockable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxDEw-0MhA0
Intel wouldn't be able to sell i5s if they remained overclockable
Hey guys guess what.
Those PS4 neo rumours depicted 5tf performance and 2304 compute cores.
Low and behold what does the 480 have?
5tf performance and 2304 compute cores.
Waiting for the 490/x
Fuck g-sync
>>339582521
American electronics prices is about the only thing I'm jelly of
My CPU is bottlenecking my games, what's a good cheap CPU to upgrade to?
>>339583074
Anything not AMD and you're good to go.
>>339582749
>diminished driver support for older cards (see Keplar, observe current Maxwell driver trend) when you buy Nvidia.
nvidia still give support to any card up to 8000 series that's 10yo card
while AMD dropped the support of 5000 series only 3 years after its release
>>339583161
yeah but which one is cheap?
Intel CPUs are expensive as hell.
>>339583193
Depends on your socket. Even lower end i5s are excellent CPUs.
>$200
>it'll be €250-300 here as always
>>339583074
Why cherap out on the cpu though
Just get a good one that you can overclock eventually and you're set for half a decade
got a 3570K oced to 4.5ghz , would it bottleneck with these new gen gpus?
Would this make a good upgrade from a GTX 670?
>>339583193
>Intel CPUs are expensive as hell.
no they're not
a Ferrari is expensive as hell
a CPU is a couple hundred bucks
>>339583352
Overclocking CPUs is massively overrated and unnecessary for most users. A good i5 CPU has way more perf that users actually require, unless they do CPU intensive programming or run distributed science supporting software like folding at home. It is way better to get a fast and power efficient CPU and just leave it at stock, that way you have enough performance and at the same time are not reducing the lifespan of the tech you spent your hard earned autism bux on.
>>339583490
nope
>>339583490
Nope. Dont forget your CPU is still very modern, there havent been many improvements since that generation other than power efficiency and heat reduction.
>>339583560
Or you could get an unlocked one and overclock it when you actually need it
>>339583516
yup
>>339583560
pretty much
some games (anything made by Bethesda) benefit from having higher clock speeds through overclocking but 99% of the time a locked i5 or even an i3 is plenty for most gaming demands
>>339579241
Pretty sure this card can handle Wither 3 almost maxed on 1080p 60 fps with no hairworks
>>339583606
>>339583610
>>339583689
thanks guys
>>339579839
>70+% nuclear power contribution in power generation here
>needing hydrocarbons for electricity
>2016
So I have:
>amd phenom ii x6 1055t CPU
>R7-200 GPU
Which of those bottlenecks my fps more, the GPU or the CPU?
>>339583870
i dont even know what an r7 200 is so probably that.
>>339578268
My bill on average is maybe $30-40 a month. If that's too much for you maybe you shouldn't move out of your parents' house.
>>339583870
your GPU, obviously
is it a 250?
>>339584025
I think? Just confused since the CPU is already like.. 5 years old. Guess I'll wait for the first few polaris reviews and decide then if I want a 1070 or the rx480.
>>339584240
You'll still have to upgrade your cpu or your new gpu will be bottlenecked hard
>>339584351
>cpu bottleneck
Sure, maybe if he is rendering a movie in the background while playing.
>>339584415
Plenty of games tax the CPU
>>339576175
>gift my 750ti to wife's son
>wife's son
Do I even have to say ut?
>>339584510
Sure thing buddy,
Thats cool, but what about them CPUs?
My 8350 isn't cutting it.
Is this the new 7870 of this era?
Because that was a damn good card
Why do AMDfags always seem like they have an inferiority complex?
>>339578602
go to bed shill, you're 5 cents will be deposited into your poo account later
>>339576175
>>339577851
>>339578113
>>339578041
How much power supply minimum be for 150w?
>>339583295
It'll be $350-400 in Australia.
EU never wins.
>>339580231
It's also a great benchmarking tool.
What is wrong with you? Buy 480s in SLI already.
>>339581218
lol America is 3rd world now?
>>339579306
No. Wait for Vega. RX 480 shouldnt be much faster.
>>339584794
Probably get by on a 500-550w.
I've been dancing around the idea of getting a r9 380 to replace my antiquated 6950.
Is now the time to do it, or should I wait for the new cards to come out?
Pretty much need to stick to 300-series, since it'd highly doubtful the 400-series is going to have DVI-I available.
>>339583165
6000 also just lost support at the end of last year.
And their last release of drivers ended up gimping them by disabling OpenCL support.
>>339577851
Literally who cares?
OFFICIAL SPECS
COMPUTE: ">5TFLOPS"
CUs: 36
Memory Bandwidth: 256GB/s
Data Rate (Effective): 8Gbps
Memory Size: 4/8GB GDDR5
Memory Interface: 256-bit
TDP / Power: 150W
(1x 6-pin)
DisplayPort: 1.3/1.4 HDR
So it has been confiremed now that there will be a 4GB and a 8GB version.
The 4GB is the one that will cost 200$ and the 8GB version price has not been finalized but will probably land on the 250 mark
>>339584718
7870 here
looks to be the case
>>339578268
Literal pennies when you consider it's almost never under 100% load. Even in the most expensive state m80.
>>339584351
Depends on the games. Some MMO when it is crowded, but the x6 should still hold up reasonably well unless they plan on playing games in 1440p. For 1080p it should still hold up well enough.
>>339585047
I just want something to play Witcher 3 at 1080p/60 fps
>>339584839
the point was that it isn't made in China
>>339585047
i expect 230 for reference 8GB and 250 for aftermarket models
>>339585172
It will do it no problem.
>>339578268
Ohio here
I pay about $25/month with the AC/Heat on all the time
>>339585047
It is a retardedly low price for those specs. I am expecting either the cooling to be complete shit or some internal fuckery that limits the card.
Rumours say that P10 consumes much less that 150W, somewhere around 110-130W.
Intel does this - they say 95W TDP but the chips only use 75-80W max.
It's very strange that they advertise the max power that the card can get. I guess they are going to promote 150W because there will be many AIBs that will show up with factory overclocked 8pin conectors cards and then the average of RX 480 will be 150W.
>>339585252
what will limit the card is potential power draw from a single 6-pin
>mfw finally a good upgrade from my 770
is dis real life
>>339577851
>he poorfagged on the Power Supply, the most important part
lmao
>>339578268
Germany here. electricity is stupidly expensive over here due to the government deciding to completely quit nuclear power. Turn out that green energy is rather expensive, who would have thought?
>>339585284
I'm thinking dual 6-pin for the high-end models, like MSi Lightning and such
>>339585356
>completely
I somehow thought so too but there's still a lot of nuclear reactors in duty
>>339585356
meh, it'll pay for itself within a decade
>>339576175
I can't wait for benchmarks, this better not be a meme card like 970 again
>>339585407
Yes, and we get a big chunk of our electricity from French nuclear plants. But hey, any excuse to get another "Öko-strom steuer" to jw the people out of their shekel.
Oh thank fuck, I can't wait to ditch the shitty Nvidia with their shitty drivers.
>>339585047
>no DVI
why? Isn't it targeting poorfags?
AMD shills sure are doing work today, huh?
>>339585356
It's a sham because you still import a lot of electricity from France, letting us run and squeeze money from dustbins and like the Fessenheim and Bugey plants, both nearing 50 years of activity
Can't wait for the benchmarks, I guess now I know which card I'll buy for Christmas
>>339585562
>live in Luxembourg
>threat of Cattenom blowing up looming over us daily
You guys are some cheap fags
>>339577851
>He thinks 150W is a lot
Nigger what in the fuck card do you have that requires less then 150W?
sure as shit aint any good once
>inb4 970
>>339585646
I blame EDF and Areva
waiting for Vega and HBM2 this Fall
>>339585815
the 750Ti hinted by OP?
it consumes 75W
>twice bigger, twice hotter, twice as much power draw, twice as powerful
doesn't sounds like a successor, just a supersized competitor
>>339577851
RX 480 will for sure use less than 150W, that 150W is more like PEG PCIE+6pin typical rating just plastered on.
>>339585986
its not a successor nor a competitor
750ti is old news and 3 gens behind
Is there any reason to get the $200 4gb version over the $250 8gb one?
>>339586137
great that we agree
now if you don't mind reading OP again
>>339585986
More like 5x performance, and considering physical size and power usage/heat output are irrelevant for 99% of usage cases...
>>339576175
>$200 = 180euros
Components are more expensive in Europe than the US, so it will probably be in the range of 250 Euro.
So crossfireed RX480's is said to beat out the 1070 and compete with the 1080
I don't personally believe this but if it is true once we finaly get the benchmarks, how on suicide watch do you think Nvidia is gonna be
>>339578268
>Third world countries like the US.
I like you because you tell the truth.
>>339586247
cheaper for your needs i.e. single 1080p screen
>>339586384
> i don't believe this
in ideal scenerio probably will. But shit optimization/ports make dual GPU not always work DX12 will make this even more so.
>how suicide watch will Nvidea be.
Not at all. AMD has in past flat out outperformed nvidea for cheaper and still sold way less cards.
>>339585986
>much power draw
Dude 150W has practiclly been standart for 3 years now
>twice as powerful
I don't think you know just how big the gap between then 750TI and 970 even is.
>>339586402
1st world literally means western/capitilist/USA and it's allies
2nd world was soviets and friends
3rd world is unaligned.
So people say that trying to sound cool and edgy haha america is third world. They are actually just being complete idiots.
>>339582287
Well its literally only a bit of metal they aren't expensive to make only expensive to invent
>>339586754
>literally only metal
Yeah man 14nm silicon waffers cheap as fuck to make, especially with those kow as yields they are getting.
You do realize margins are probably insanely thin right?
>>339586754
That's really retarded, you should look into how GPUs and other similar components are actually produced, it's not as cheap as you think.
>>339576175
Is this piece of meme wizardry suited for qhd gaming? If yes, how much will the rest of the rig cost?
>>339586892
margins are probably negative for desktops
If I have 0 interest in 1440p, 4k or VR and just want to play games in 1080p @ 60fps for the forseeable future, will this card be a good investment?
Should I upgrade to this 480 from a gtx 670?
I'm going to be waiting on both ends, since I wasn't planning on upgrading until 1080ti at the very least time frame wise, but I've used both manufacturers of cards and I got to say, that Nvidia does have some really nice features like Shadowplay and generally don't have too many issues with games, but AMD was fairly annoying when it came to drivers and generally always seemed to have random issues more often in games than Nvidia did, and Nvidia did have some issues as well but still.
>tfw I owned the 280, the 380 and now prob gonna buy the 480
>Selling old Video card after a year of use
>Literally spending only $30-50 for a grapichal upgrade
Life is good
>>339585047
Educate a poorfag who's gonna be building his first PC this or next year.
What specs are average, and what is considered high-end?
Memory size is VRAM?
>5TFLOPS
Is that really bad?
>>339587083
Looking at the raw specs?
Yea probably
I would wait for the benchmarks to drop first but it will probably handle 1080 @60 easy
>GTX 1080
USA: $699 (626 Euro)
Europe: 789 Euro ($880 USD)
That's a price hike of $181, which is almost the price of a RX480 in the USA.
>AMD R9 Fury X
USA: $680 (610 Euro)
Europe: 599 Euro ($668)
That's a price that's actually lower in Europe than in the USA. Obviously this is an old card at this point, but point still stands.
>>339587217
VRAM bitrate is same as the 1070 so its ok.
Yes Memory size is the VRAM niga, what kinda question is that.
5tflops (Or 5.5 not sure yet) is pretty gud, considering the 980 has the 5 too for $400
>>339585252
Why?
AMD has been spamming thei "low price aim" for years now and we are now going to see what they meant.
>>339587383
Just making sure m8.
I'm still fucking broke, so I have time to do my research.
>>339587368
What's the EU price for non-founders 1070?
>>339584849
>>339584794
I use a 550w PSU with a GPU that uses 250W at max load.
People over-estimate how much power their entire machine will need.
>>339577851
ahem
>>339587504
I would wait till first Benchmark but what AMD said is right this is pretty much the new sweet spot in Prife/Perfomance.
If you only want to play 1080p60 this is going to be excelent. Some titles in 1440p and some Competive games/older titles will run 4K
>>339587217
>Educate a poorfag
these new cards from nvidia and amd will all have between 4-8GB VRAM (video memory), which will serve any HD+ screen (1080, 1440) fine but probably not 4K with a single card
your main concern should be with framerate on whatever display you're running - shoot for 60fps as a minimum number
specs are difficult to compare across manufacturers, but teraflops is a good indicator for how well a card may perform.
just for reference, the 980 puts out about 5 Tflops, the 780 put out around 4, the 680 around 3
I sure hope AMD continues on that great bang/buck, low high-tier route they chose, it's the best
>>339587217
Most of the stuff in it looks on par with the 980Ti and the 980Ti had been the price to preformance king for years until very recently
what is impressive to is that the memory size.
The one we are looking at right now is the 4GB version
But the other one that is gonna cost a little more has 8GB where as the 980TI only has 6GB
Overall it's pretty impressive for it to look as it does for the price it has
crossfire 480 8GB is going to annihilate the 1080
>>339587875
Yes and that's what AMD should've done long ago. People with money will always go to Nvidia now. People with budget alternate between Nvidia and AMD depending on who offers the cheapest shit. I think AMD can make a decent return selling a $200 GPU that is enough for 1080p 60 fps for most games.
I've never understood the shitting between these two fanboys.
Now tell me which new card to buy in August.
>>339587531
the price of the 1070 hasn't been release yet
>>339576175
>180euros
whoever thinks it'll be that cheap is delusional. It'll probably be more like 300euro
And people will still complain about this card.
>>339588197
>it's not free
>>339588096
Im hoping for 230-250
I will flip shit if it's over 300
>>339588242
>it runs on electricity
FUCKING AMD KEKS.
>>339586746
Thanks for imparting your 5th grade knowledge, I've already been to 5th grade though so nothing new learned here, maybe in 6th grade you'll learn how to suck up a fucking joke.
>>339587918
>980Ti had been the price to preformance king for years until very recently
>for years
>Release date: June 2nd, 2015.
Nigga the thing hasn't even been out for a year.
And I sure as hell wouldn't call it the king of price to performance either.
>mfw every year since 2010 AMD, and NVidia announce new cards
>mfw everytime they put out these dumb fuck press releases about how the new cards will blow the last cards dick out of the water
>mfw everytime AMD's new card ends up being a cheap alternative that's a total piece of shit but atleast you didn't pay much for it
>it's practically a beefier version of the last GPU chip but with a tricycle wheel for a fan tied to some makeshit power source
>mfw everytime NVidias new card ends up being a better card in the long run but is so over priced that you could've bought a new car
>it's practically the same chip but with more NANOMACHINES or some shit that's been crammed in that justifies forking over an extra 300$
>mfw people shitfling over this day in and day out and then cry foul when they get burned by one side before jumping to the next and repeating the cycle
>mfw this is the state of PC gaming
>>339588076
Why did my autistic friend claim it was 500 Euro then? I can't trust him with anything.
>>339588430
>king of price to performance
currently the 290 4GB
>>339576175
>Wife's son
KEK
>>339588430
>released last year
>It feels like years to me
What would so say is the "best" card on the market right now
490 better be only $300 and perform better than 1080.
>>339587752
>>339587217
Too add to this, historically AMD ends up yielding less fps per tflop than an Nvidia tflop, so comparing the 480 to the old 900 series isn't exactly apple to apples.
However this may change with DX12 if devs take the time to get more of that potential power out of the 480 unlike last generation.
>>339578268
>>339578268
?
I live in the US and my electricity bill is under $70 month.
>>339582901
PS4 Neo will use an APU, not a dedicated GPU
>>339585356
>>339585407
>>339585507
This is depressing. Nuclear Reactors are safer to operate now.
And alternative energy can never really be a main source of power today, its expensive to maintain and the resource can get finicky.
>>339587752
>>339587918
>>339588785
Thanks guys.
I think I understand graphics cards a bit more now.
>>339588441
>AMD's new card ends up being a cheap alternative that's a total piece of shit
Citation needed.
Chips made by same fabs for both Nvidia and AMD. Global Foundry / TSMC etc.
PCB's of the cards made by the third party vendors, many of which are the same between AMD / Nvidia.
ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte etc.
There are architectural differences between the dies but those are shown in comparison in game benchmarks, and both AMD and Nvidia are neck and neck each generation.
AMD cards are cheaper because of their current market position.
The one thing they suffer greatly, and the thing that Nvidia is very good at, is advertising.
Nvidia have been very good at advertising their cards to be the best choice to make in the public eye, even if it wasn't true.
While AMD suffer in creating that sort of image of their products and showing consumers why they're a very viable competitor over Nvidia.
The price differences also have the nasty knock on effect of making them seem like the cheap chinese knock off brand, and you can see that being parroted everywhere on here by idiots who don't know any better.
>>339588583
not him, but the best performing card out right now is the 1080, followed closely by the Titan X
>>339589226
I wouldn't mind nvidia being the premium choice if it weren't for retards who think they HAVE to buy nvidia even if they can't afford their actual good cards.
I've talked to people who bought the 960 even though they could have bought a more powerful AMD card for cheaper a year earlier because in their eyes they're choosing a team as opposed to a product.
>>339589027
True, but unfortunately problems with old light water nuclear reactors that run on solid uranium fuel have ruined any chance for more modern liquid salt reactors running on thorium in first world countries at least for the foreseeable future.
>>339588475
The EU price of the founders was released, but not the nonfounders. It is expected to be about 500 though.
>>339588441
GPU threads are 90% false flagging, concern trolling, cherry picked data, mixed with false equivalences.
Just laugh at the fuckers projecting their insecurities about their previous purchasing decisions onto the other team, nothing will change.
>>339579241
FUCK NO
it barely runs ashes of memes at minimum settings in CF
>>339589705
no one can shake my satisfaction of my 980. it's perfect for my needs. 980ti owners, i'm not so sure.
>>339576175
>>beats gtx980 at only $200 = 180euros
[sources and citations needed]
until then go fuck yourself and bring up some benchmarks faggot
>>339589834
its a great card, wish I had the money to buy one even now
>>339576175
no DVI slot
apex kek
>>339583724
Why?
The Chip+Motherboard is 50-70 bucks more expensive. You might as well save that money and put it into a better GPU or save it and use it to upgrade sooner if need be, it's the better strategy.
>>339589226
>wants citation
>claims AMD and Nvidia are neck and neck every year
>AMD's flagship GPU is always some dual-GPU setup with a water block that still gets outperformed by Nvidias ti variant utilizing regular fans
Kind of shot yourself in the foot there
>>339589582
Just wait for oil to pump dry. Does't help that all the "green power" fags keeps lobbying and blocking nuclear development, like what they did to the Pebble-bed reactor.
It really makes me mad to look at the world and see that almost everyone are easily scared gullible sheep. Barely anyone appreciates that we can communicate around the world almost instantly.
>>339590115
Unlocked to locked is like 10 bucks difference
>>339589521
Except Nvidia has the best drivers and offers the best performance for your money. Only retards buy AMD when Nvidia has shown they actually care about gamers by making sure their GPUs actually run well with all the latest games.
>>339576175
Umm no. You realise also this is the 4gb version price not the 8gb.
Also its the inbetween 970 & 980
>>339590216
>Just wait for oil to pump dry.
I don't think China has even started fracking yet, it'll be a long fucking time for oil supplies to run out when fracking is relatively cheap now.
>>339590297
except for at the low-mid end.
Like I said, the 960 was literally more expensive and performed worse than the R9 280x, which was available well before the 960 was even announced.
Go look at the benchmarks, even in gameworks titles the 960 fell behind.
If you're not a poorfag go nvidia and get their real offerings, don't buy their shitty baby cards and pretend you're something you're not.
>>339587154
Thanks Mr.Wick
>>339587154
Doing the same, famalan. Sapphire?
>people here not seeing this is the 4gb price.
>8gb price higher. x2 of them will be close to a 1080 hold the door.
> price for 2 is what the price for 1 1080 is.
How is that better?
>>339591167
>price for 2 is what the price for 1 1080 is
this is where you fucked up
Watch Canada find an excuse to sell it for $500.
>>339590131
>always some dual-GPU setup with a water block
>always
The past two flagship cards is "always" now?
They've been competing for over a decade now. That hardly constitutes as always.
The 295x2 outperformed every Nvidia card under the sun at the time, including the 780ti in SLI.
Nvidia is no stranger to dual card solutions either, remember the 690? Or even the 590?
Or perhaps the Titan Z? Which was released as an answer to the 295x2, yet was DOUBLE the price of the 295x2 and performed the same.
All the other Dual cards AMD released were also on air, just like the competing Nvidia dual cards at the time. The 5970, 6990, 7990 etc.
All the single card flagships between AMD and Nvidia were also neck to neck.
Nvidia have only very recently had the edge in the upper end market, just like AMD did a few years prior. And I'm guessing it'll swing around to their side again within the next few years. That's just how the market works.
>>339576175
Can you run an Nvidia card at the same time just for Shadowplay? I don't want to give up that "record the past" feature.
>>339585067
>>339584718
>7870
>Not the 7870 LE Tahiti
>As powerful as 7950 / 660 Ti at stock
>Mad overclockability
>At the same price point as GTX 660
Now that was a damn good card.
>>339584849
Are you fucking retarded? 500-550w is way overkill for a 150w gpu.
The gpu is the main power consumer in a PC, and you could run it on a 250w psu if your cpu matches you gpu.
>>339591434
>import tax
>GST
>PST
>retail markup
>fuck you we're Canada tax
>>339591167
Because of their ultra-high end nature and limited numbers 1080s and 1070s are unlikely to actually be available for MSRP for some time and Nvidia selling their own cards for $100 more isn't going to help drive prices down. Currently prices on 1080s on Amazon are in the $800-$1000
Meanwhile Polaris 10 cards are going to be cheap and readily available even if the cards are $250 and face a similar 33% markup it would still be cheaper to buy two 480x cards for $330 each than it would be to buy one 1080 for $800.
>>339591652
>7870 LE Tahiti
gimped chip
7870 is pure
>mfw 560ti
Am I out of date?
>>339592221
o fuk yes
>>339592221
You are fine for 4k
Folks with Fury Xs should be good for a while, yes?
>>339592468
yeah, until the end of the month or so
>>339592584
Ach, whatever. Not like I'm planning on 4k for the foreseeable future anyway.
>>339576175
Holy shit that's awesome.
Finally some good news on /v/
>>339579743
Well then judging from the speccy threads here and on /g/, 95% of all of you are retards. People already posting with SLI 1080 Founders Edition© The Way© It's Meant© To Be Played©.
>>339592221
>mfw 560 no ti
Overwatch runs smooth as silk.
>>339584839
America has been a third world country since 2008 when Obongo Jones took over and made everyone jobless.
Why the fuck is it even cheaper than GTX970?
>>339584796
Man the aussie dollar is like half a euro senpai
apparently it won't be 180 euros but more like 230 euros in europe.
>>339593268
Because nVidia has been abusing his leading market position for years with overpriced parts
>>339593728
but why? Why are graphic cards so fucking expensive compared to the US prices? 100$ are even less than 100€, basically we pay 130-150% for the cards in europoor countrys, why is that?
>>339578985
>Look at this benchmark where the AMD card is running on very obvious lower settings but has a slightly higher framerate!
That way I can look my 3 year old laptop look better than a gtx 1080 aswell
>>339581091
I'm in the same boat. I'm running with hd radeon 5700 right now. I'm just hoping my cpu wouldn't bottleneck this card.
>>339578985
>HURR BEATS 1080
Don't give me that ashes of singularity bullshit, they didn't use the same settings on both cards.
I'll wait on some benchmarks from more reputable sources.
Besides multi GPU sounds like bad news for the majority of traditional vidya which don't support crossfire.
For VR on the other hand assigning one GPU per eye would be handy. Problem is VR as a medium hasn't matured yet and there currently aren't any roomscale VR games I know of that utilize multi GPU setups let alone DX12.
Call me when specs on the 490x are out, this is not news to me
