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defend this
defend what? her ult gives wall hacks. her shot was fully charged. what needs to be defended?
>>339371764
Hey it's not a "my waifu is better than your waifu" thread.
I legitimately want to know how you try to defend this. For science.
>>339371956
>i'm a retard and I've completely missed the point of that image
ok
>>339371870
So what you are saying is that a wallhack in a comp mp FPS is fine?
>>339372027
>Posts a picture for ants, calls others retard
Sorry I can't read ant, faggot~kun.
All my vidya life wallhacks and aimbots were something despicable, something disgusting, something to shun. Hell 10 years ago everyone including the vidya press would have shunned this pest.
Why are these generations such shit neo /v/? Why are you such shit?
The reason people hate wallhacks is because they're just that, hacks. To use them is cheating and gives players unfair advantages over others.
This isn't a hack, it's an established game mechanic, it's not cheating, it's not a problem. You can still think it's a bad mechanic but not just because it's usually associated with hacking. That would be like hating invincibility power-ups because enabling god mode is cheating.
>>339372078
...yes? it's balanced. the other team knows when they're wallhacked.
>character announces that she uses wallhack
>"lmao i'll just run out with my 100 hp dw!"
>>339372527
>the other team knows when they're wallhacked
That's not even true, let's keep it real son.
>>339372646
>Wallhacks in a game with OHK weapons is somehow ok
A generation of dumb fucks. Simply dumb fucks.
>>339373465
I can hear that french bitch across the entire map when she uses her power. Stop being deaf and dumb.
>>339372646
You can double and triple stack wallhacks throughout the whole match. When exactly am I supposed to get to the objective exactly?
What if I have to get to the point? Shall I just hang back and chill?
>>339373618
but hten what actions do you take to prevent her wall hacks from affecting you?
>>339373618
Lies, you don't know at all times, and you haven't known at all times, and even if you are a magical wonder of the universe that's still a shitty excuse.
>>339373680
just go winston you spastic retard, one hero to counter their three...
>but buhu they will snipe me out the air.
Just get a Zarya to bubble you before you jump in.
>>339373751
Coordinating with your team over voice chat to locate and kill the enemy widow maker, avoiding shooting galleries and changing to a class that counters widowmaker
I guess these solutions are beyond your abilities. Maybe CoD is better suited for you?
>>339373765
Man, it must suck being deaf.
>>339371764
>9/14 threads have official marketing material as the image
No shilling going on here, not at all.
Try to defend this, I dare you /v/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMJ-s4T16M
>>339373869
so does the ability affect everywhere on the map or is it localized to just being around the caster (widowmaker)?
>>339374015
I believe it has a maximum range. Most of the maps aren't huge though so it seems to spot people as soon as they leave spawn.
>>339374109
that seems legit stupid then
how long does it last and whats the cooldown?
would seem highly unfair if there was an attack defend mode and the defenders can see exactly where the attackers are coming from
(im asking because i havent played the game)
>>339373862
Shit excuses galore
>>339373869
You are a lying sack of shit, son.
>>339374307
>that seems legit stupid
>i havent played the game
No fucking kidding, if you played the game then you'd know it's nothing worth shitting yourself about and Widowmaker isn't even one of the best classes because she's so easily countered it's ridiculous.
>>339374109
Nah you can see people in spawn too. The teams I've been with widowmaker and we push to spawn we can see them spawning in way before they leave the spawn area
>its still being shilled
fucking helll
>>339374626
You are genuinely brain dead if you think this is shilling
>>339374437
how long does it last and how long is teh cool down?
youve already told me it's effective area is pretty much the whole map, which operates like a standard wall hack
>>339372527
>it's balanced.
>>339371727
Go ahead and count up the number of modern or futuristic FPSes with shit like "infrared" vision or some other way of seeing enemies through walls and then realize how incredibly fucking stupid you are.
>>339372078
Blacklight Retribution had a dedicated wall hack button.
>>339374307
They know where you spawn anyways
>>339374694
How about you look it up on Google or a wiki instead of wanting to be spoonfed about a game you don't even play.
try to defend this
I dare you
>>339374417
Avoid being killed by her the same way you always do
Stick behind Reinhart for the push
Or just fucken hang back for the short time its actually up for. Like Molten Core, when I hear the Dwarf fire up, I just stay back until I'm sure he's cooled off
>>339371727
>I never played Blacklight: The Post
>>339374929
>bawww i cant defend my game so instead of proving the point of my opponent and admitting he was right ill resort to deflection so that i dont look like a bloody fool
>>339373894
>>339374356
>>339373680
If an enemy team is half widowmaker, you'll roll them before their ult charges anyway
defend this
>>339371727
>15s
The duration is probably too long, Splatoon's version of this used to be 12s and it was nerfed to 9s in a patch
>>339374694
It lasts 15 seconds and is her ultimate ability, which means she needs to charge it up in order to use it. It takes several minutes to charge if she's not playing aggressively, and if she is playing aggressively then it's not as big a deal anyway.
>>339375036
Jump off a cliff.
>>339371727
It's her ult, of course it's gonna be some OP shit.
>>339374930
I wont, its part of the cancer that killed CoD MP
>>339375163
>trying to make a headshot with anything but a pistol/sniper rifle
>>339375197
see >>339375036
this was also me>>339374694
>>339371727
The only game to handle this well was Blacklight Retribution.
>>339371727
>genji player running out into the open while KNOWING widowmaker has her ult up (its announced to the whole fucking game) and not even using reflect
That retard deserved to die
>>339375379
Nobody cares, jump off a cliff anyway for shitting on games you don't play and expecting to be spoonfed instead of taking five seconds to look it up on a wiki.
>>339371727
he was already weakened and it was a full charge shot
>>339374878
Completely different, lmao.
>>339371727
>Some characters get the ability to shoot huge dragons through walls, auto aim, and gain the ability to one hit kill, or turn their whole team invincible.
>Complain about being able to see through walls for a few seconds.
>>339375063
That's literally wrong, we do double and triple widow a lot. It's hilariously OP. Wallhack all game.
You have no idea what a huge advantage that is. Wanna know why? That's the reason why it was done in the past, it's insane to make a legit wallhack in a game like that.
And everyone defending it, is either a shill or just a fucking moron that needs to get the fuck out of a board for and about vidya enthusiasts.
>>339375163
Wow. I don't think source was this bad, ever.
>>339375532
> maybe if i use his tactic against him i can prevent my self from continuing to look like a bloody fool
>"wow such skillfull game it's the future of shooters esports esports"
>even the sniper has a gigantic autoaim
wallhack only gets you so far
You still have to be able to fucking lead targets and aim properly, and know when your targets are actually not behind a wall
>>339375618
sounds like you just play against shitters
>>339375681
Yeah, look at that fucking gun. It's like a fucking elementary school student's notebook
>>339375618
>we can beat shitty pub teams so it must be OP
The only benefit the wallhack has is spotting flankers. Every map has an objective that the other team will be moving toward and you can easily guess their movement strats based on their team comp if you've been playing for longer than half an hour.
>>339375759
>thinks wallhacking is autoaiming
You need to be 18 to post here, kiddo.
>>339375618
Maybe in games like CS or COD where its easy to one-shot anyone with a powerful rifle, but in Overwatch even the 200 HP characters will survive a fully-charged bodyshot, and hitting the quick fuckers EVEN knowing they're on the way still requires skilled aim
AND there's numerous ways to protect yourself and friends from snipers. Genji's deflect, Reaper's shadowform, Reinhart's shield, Winston's bubble, Zarya's bubbles
>>339375759
How's high school?
>>339375918
Um, no. That's mostly the benefit the team will get, but the sniper can set up shots for enemies not yet in view or other snipers who are about to corner peak.
>>339375197
>It takes several minutes to charge
Aahahah what.
>>339371727
Nerf this!
>>339374417
how is using proper counters and tactis shit exuses?
>>339375394
>its announced to the whole fucking game
Again this bullshit. It's not.
>>339376375
What's it like being deaf?
>>339375578
By nature every mp game you play against other people is competitive.
>>339376375
YES it is. Any time an ult is used, there's an audio cue for every player in the game.
>>339376296
>shit people that can't aim for shit
Wow I am very impressed
>>339376296
What the shit? Are these bots or is this console?
>>339376491
This, how can anyone NOT hear:
>DIE DIE DIE DIE
>HEROES NEVER DIE
>>339375918
>we can beat shitty pub teams so it must be OP
No shit sherlock, that's all there is, what else would I play?
>The only benefit the wallhack has is spotting flankers
Wrong so much, having a wallhack lets me kill you easily, no matter what you are, I can predict through walls, you don't.
I can't believe people actually try to defend this.
I can't defend it OP, because your video is missing sound, which would contain the required evidence to dismiss your shitpost almost instantly.
>>339376091
>Only death knows peace from this shilling
>>339371727
It's better than the widowmaker I played against last night that would instantly snap to people's heads as soon as they walked out even without the ult activated.
>>339376707
Because
a) It only lasts several seconds and takes time to recharge
b) You still have to be able to aim
c) It's announced to the enemy, so they can just keep back for the duration or use shield abilities
d) All ultimates are powerful when used right, and easily wasted if the team mates or user are crap
>>339376765
and what evidence would that be?
i mean considering the circumstance under which the ult was used, what evidence would sound possibly provide taht would mitigate such atrocious game design?
>>339376345
Because the question is, is a wallhack a good idea for an ult, not what you would do with it.
It still doesn't help against them having the wallhack. In fact you send winston he will prolly give her an ult faster...
>>339376604
Online on console
>>339376890
> several (def: more than 2 but not many) seconds
> it's actually 15 seconds
keep trying dou
>>339376707
If I know you're a Widowmaker, I'm either going to be cautious when approaching obvious sniper alleys, or switch to a hard counter for you. If I switched, that means I either ran all the way back to spawn (probably never happens) or died and had to take 10 seconds to respawn before running back, either of which means your ult is over by the time I'm ready to start going after you.
>>339375681
thats GO
>>339376296
>Right Bumper
This is the aiming skill of console kids.
>>339373465
Are you retarded? Even if you think it's imbalanced, she still says something along the lines of "you can't hide from me" and it's played globally regardless of your position. I'm sorry you're a retarded shitter who plays videogames without ears.
>>339376949
>I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHT
>Hmm, I should take my 100 health I current have and run into the open
>>339371727
>Try to defend this, I dare you /v/.
I don't even see what is supposed to be wrong with this. What's the problem?
Really easy to spot the retards who mute their games and listen to music.
>>339377286
That's 76's ult shout
No one complains about the built-in aimbot mechanic do they
>>339377384
Read the thread.
OP is a dipshit who doesn't know that Ults have call outs and is screaming bad design because a Genji rushed while knowing a Widow had Infra-Vision up.
>>339377286
> hur hur hur using hindsight in a past situation
> hurhurhur im gonna ignore the fact the ult was used during a battle involving 7 people close enough to be affected by it
>>339377149
And I'm commenting that CSS did it better.
>>339376296
hahahahahahahahahaha oh my fucking god this is golden
>>339373680
Yo it just sounds like you need to_gitgud
>DURRR I CAN'T BEAT 3 WIDOWS
Can someone explain what's the point of McCree's Ult. It's just ONE auto head shot warned in advance? I mean. McCree is already precise enough to do it without auto-aim. Good players might actually never use it because their own headshot would come without warning.
Isn't that a bit luke-warm for an Ult?
>>339377485
>player saved their ult for when it would be most effective instead of spamming it like 99% of players
I don't see the problem.
>>339377713
>One
It hits as many people as you have in your line of sight. Whether they die or not is health based.
>>339371727
I can't defend someone buying this garbage video game, I just can't sorry
>>339376613
Because when you die you don't hear shit anymore. Besides ult cues get easily drowned out in battle and com chatter.
>>339377756
>It hits as many people as you have in your line of sight.
Oooooh. How is the line of sight defined?
>>339377748
neither do i other than it gives the team that uses it an unfair advantage
>>339377713
>One
It's everyone in sight, so if the entire team is there they all get headshotted
>>339377713
If you keep the enemies in sight long enough, their icons turns red which mean they'll be instantly killed
Don't just fire it off a split moment after activating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIk_6NWNrg8
>>339377862
>player skill is an unfair advantage
k
>>339377860
>Oooooh. How is the line of sight defined?
Are you for fucking real? Do you really not know what line of sight means? Is this the Overwatch playerbase?
>play as Zarya
>know I'm wallhacked
>walk into line of fire with shield up
>immediate 100 energy
Widowmaker is pretty shit. Hanzo is definitely more useful unless the Widow has godly aim. You don't even need wallhacks if you pay attention to the footsteps.
>>339377713
You could insta kill an entire team with it senpai.
It can headshot everyone you have LoS with.
>>339377713
I think it's a close range damage shot and Mccree is already ridiculous. His ult charges insanely fast anyway and his fan rapes tanks, which would be fine if he didn't also have a stun grenade to rape everything else.
>>339377149
fair enough, misunderstood youre definitely right it wasnt
>>339377952
Since you obviously just showed up to the thread, this entire thread is based on retards shitting on gameplay mechanics they don't understand for a game they don't play.
>>339376296
Nerf this.
>>339377147
>or switch to a hard counter for you
There is no hard counter for a wallhack, except another wallhack.
https://youtu.be/vSQaVF5kmdc
Here is what all heros say for the ult
>>339377860
If you can see them, they can get nooned
>>339372078
It's a timed powerup, not a permanent effect, and as other posters pointed out, you will notice when the enemy used it.
I don't even like Overwatch, but please attack it for legitimate issues, not for dumb shit like this.
>>339377951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=392M9z2AgFc
no skill needed when you know whats coming noob
>>339376296
This is what happens when you take ads away from consoleturds. They show their real faces. And their faces are ugly as hell.
>>339378059
Feel free to show me the non-existent ability that grants Widowmaker 100% uptime on her ultimate.
>b-but we use three Widowmakers
Have fun getting curbstomped against any team that isn't 12-year-old pub shitters.
>>339378059
There's numerous shields and bubbles
One character can spam indirect fire, or pilot a remote control explosive
Another's ult can shoot a damaging dragon through walls
>>339378046
Can't believe there are actual people who use the same board as I do that fell for the overwatch meme
>>339375618
i would fucking love to run into your team and crush you into the ground
I just find it really annoying to have to play certain heroes to counter other heroes.
I just wanna play what I want and have fun without getting stomped.
>>339378034
This generation of nerd facists, I hate them all so much. Fucking tea bagging generation.
>>339378046
>He's a shitposter
>On an imageboard
>>339377805
>Because when you die you don't hear shit anymore.
When you die, the cue has already happened. You were still living when the cue happened.
>Besides ult cues get easily drowned out in battle and com chatter.
Git gud at hearing.
That or you might have a disability: it was recently diagnosed that there are some people who are physically unable to focus on one source of sound and when there is too much different sounds at the same time isn't able to understand any of it.
The wallhack is the least of Widowmaker's problems. The entire class is OP. We already know there's aim assist and when you combine that with how slow characters are and her immense damage she is incredibly easy to play and gets 1-2 shot kills, not helped by how fast you can fire her sniper and how fast it charges up compared to say, the TF2 Sniper. And if you get close to her all she has to do is hook away. Poison mines also do too much damage.
>>339375762
>Implying
>>339378341
Either stop playing a class-based shooter game or main Lucio.
>>339378341
>I just want to play a third Hanzo on attack!
Die
>>339377952
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I was simply asking if all the target must be close to the target of the screen and you have to paint it over all the person you want to kill during the length of the Ult, or if you simply need to see them for them to die.
>>339378095
Thanks.
>>339375618
I've destroyed game where we'd go 4 D.va or 4 zenyatta, who are objectively worse than other heroes.
We just played against shitters and so do you.
>>339378717
No one ever said that.
>>339371727
Defend THIS. 20 tick rate master race r-right guys?
>>339375163
Only retards go for head shots
Center of mass nigga
Any good griefing videos yet? I've already seen critikal's.
>>339378461
what
how do you activate this?
i really have to focus my aim to get kills on that shit
>>339375618
>/v/
>vidya enthusiasts
that would mean /v/ is either good at games or in some way enthusiastic about games
neither could be more wrong
>>339378760
Whenever I play Genji and try to charge away to get away from damage, I get hit by something from where I was after I charge and die.
Very annoying.
>>339378461
Just bought the game and this made me instantly regret my decision.
Fuck.
>>339378213
>show me the non-existent ability that grants Widowmaker 100% uptime
Already been said, double even triple stacking widow is giving you a LOT of uptime on the wallhack. And we are talking decent players here, not ultra scrubs that cant hit shit.
>>339373618
>You can hear her
No, you can't. Her Ult is the only one that has a limited vocal range.
I NEVER hear her, cause she's all the way in the back, Sniping.
Also for OP, Wallhack is fine, it just needs a Nerf, I.E. reduced duration, increased charge time, AND Global vocal range like every other ult.
My complaint is she just killed a Genji with 200 HP with a shot that hit his foot for 150.
>>339378853
it's tickrate killcam shenanigans
>>339378448
>We already know there's aim assist
false
>>339371727
Why the FUCK is the enemy winston not going straight to you giving you the hot monkey dick and shutting you down with relative ease the entire time
>>339376707
Because
>kills don't mean you win the game
>it's temporary
>you still need to aim
I'm a 100% sure that you won't "kill everybody easy no matter what you are". Reinard shield, Zarya shield, D.va shield and several other abilities or unpredictable movement will fuck your statement.
>>339378461
wow i've aimed much closer and didnt get these kind of kills as widow
>>339378931
>And we are talking decent players here
If they were decent players then they wouldn't be tripling up on an easily counterable character.
>b-but we can beat other teams!
Stop playing against pub shitters.
>>339378319
Sure thing bob. So far nothing really "crushed" us, and I play with a bunch of woWfags.
Try it yourself, try double and triple widow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCFCfdUFHps
defend this
>>339378059
there is a counter to it, dont be shit and play winston
fully charged shot is 300 to the head 150 to the body, you need 2 fully charged headshots or one and two body shots, thats not happening in the time it takes him to get to you
>>339371727
you're team will have a widowmaker on it, a conservative, 80% of the time anyway. which means you benefit from it just as much as the enemy team.
not to mention hanzo's sonar arrow aswell
>>339379040
Easymaker player please
>>339378461
>>339379176
A fucking killcam from a 20 tickrate server, which even blizzard has explicitly stated is not a fucking forensic tool. Of course that doesn't stop retards from trying anyway.
>>339379040
>We already know there's aim assist
Not him, Hanzo arrows ALL have aim assist.
ALL of them.
If you get within a decent margin of your enemy, the arrow will connect, period. You don't have to hit their character, the arrow will just move over a set number of units and hit them square in the body/head, usually head cause "lol, it's closer even though the shoulder is RIGHT THERE."
>>339379162
none of these faggot Hanzo shitters ever keep that sonic arrow up
>>339378731
You'd get fucked.
Hard.
>>339378419
>When you die, the cue has already happened
Moron, When you are watching kill cam you don't hear shit from the match.
That's why I call you a filthy fucking liar when you say you always know at all times. Because you fucking don't.
I want you brats to fucking leave.
>>339379176
Not him and I say aim assist is a problem, but that is top tier cherrypicking, cause it doesn't show the after as they swipe their mouse left as they fire, which has a minor time delay.
>overwatch takes no skill its all aim assist and broken abilities
>t. shitter who doesn't know how to play around characters
>>339378760
Why the fuck could the other widow hit that shot?
>>339379260
So much uninformed.
That's "just" the double sized hitboxes of the arrow and the model.
I fucken hate Hanzo.
>>339379243
Not like it's hard even if there is none since again most classes are super slow and you get free second tries thanks to how fast the rifle's charge is
>>339379364
Literally all people ever do is whip their mouse in the direction of the opponent and then it counts as a hit
>>339379289
>takes 10 seconds to respawn
>have to hustle back to your team, which is slow as fuck if you're not Lucio or S76
>by the time you get back the wallhack is either over or <5 secs from being over
>AND IF THE OTHER TEAM HAS A WIDOWMAKER YOU SHOULDN'T BE CHARGING IN THE OPEN UNLESS YOU'RE A TANK ANYWAY
are faggots really mistaking shit that has nothing to do with aim assist for aim assist?
>>339378931
>decent players
Well then you could be playing triple zenyetta and still win. 90% of the overwatch playerbase is a total scrub.
Doesn't mean triple Widow is ever good or even broken. You'd get shitstomped against any decent team. It'd take one Winston and MAYBE a Zarya to shut down three people or at least keep them occupied.
It's fine if it works for you and you're having fun, but stop pretending it's broken.
>>339378731
Nigger please 1 good widow can shut down a push, 2 widows is suddenly a problem!
Stop talking out your ass and fucking try it yourself fucknugget.
>>339378867
The way the charge works is the game doesn't recognize you moving until you land from the charge.
So while you may activate the charge and start moving, the server has you standing still basically until you end it. Its only a fraction of a second but it can cause you to get "sucked back" and die from where you initiated the charge.
>>339379440
Yes, whipping their mouse is ALSO a problem, but the argument here is aim assist, which isn't present in that webm you linked, it's just cut off early.
>>339379404
Then explain how the trail they leave will have a sudden z-like kink in it?
>>339371764
Have you played the game or you thik this is permanent?
>>339374853
In Company of Heroes 2, the fucking Germans have a half track thing with a flashlight that see through fucking buildings. And infrared marks shit. "herr derr bad fps".
>>339379440
>Not like it's hard even if there is none since again most classes are super slow and you get free second tries thanks to how fast the rifle's charge is
Which is an actual, quantifiable complaint and one I won't argue with. Aim assist has not been proven to exist beyond hanzo's planet sized hitboxes making inaccurate arrows into headshots.
The killcam cannot be used to accurately determine the minutiae of what happened in a given situation, this has been the case in any game with such a feature.
>>339378461
Hasn't Blizz already confirmed kill cams and the like don't show precisely what the player was actually doing?
>>339379514
And one good Winston can destroy an entire team of Widows
Stop pretending that beating pub shitters means you're awesome
>>339376296
>hanzo was trying to charge back his arrow and fire
>zenyatta was charging his orbs after hitting with the discord
>roadhog was trying to hook shotgun which should have hit but the hook went through the character
>genji was in reflect mode
that's literally all that webm was
>>339379276
What? I just said we played total shit comps and still wrecked shit, since we use teamplay and aren' total shitters. And no, we'd ruin your triple widow game with three or four D.vas. Not Zenyatta obviously, since he dies from a bodyshot.
>>339379538
That's dumb
>>339378936
she didnt, she killed a genji with less than 150 remaining hp with a 150 hp damage shot, health bars dont appear until YOU start damaging the hero
nice to see gameplay discussion going on.
tf2 babies so upset a better game is out
>>339379775
>with d.va
>the character whose entire front half is a critbox
>against a single character who can melt that shitty gook mech solo
>a team of 3 of them
?
>>339379046
>and shutting you down with relative ease the entire time
Ahahaha that monkey is dead before he can realize what a stupid shit mistake he made.
>>339379803
Are you retarded?
Do a frame by frame of that webm, firstly, before Widow has done ANY damage to him, she sees his health bar. And second, he clearly has 7 notches, which is 175 HP, which means he took a McCree flashbang or equivalent.
>>339379514
One good Winston can destroy a TEAM of good Widows. This game works with counters you dolt. Some heroes are better in certain situations and against teamcomps than others.
>>339379289
>Moron, When you are watching kill cam you don't hear shit from the match.
Sorry, but you are the moron, when you watch the kill cam, you are already dead. The cue has already passed. The cue was WHEN YOU WERE STILL ALIVE. I can't believe I have to explain this.
What sort of logical convolution lead you to "okay, I just died, but if I now watch the kill-cam and get to hear now the CU that has already happened BEFORE THE KILL CAM EVEN STARTED, somehow, I can managed this".
The whole point is to pay attention to the audio cues before you get the killcam. When you have the killcam, it's already too late.
>>339379050
Kill yourself, there is no other option.
>>339379916
You have clearly not tasted big fat creamy monkey dick then
>>339379948
Did you miss the start of the webm where she was spraying down a hallway with Genji at the other end and his HP was visible?
>>339379948
Widow could've easily damaged him while she was spraying in the tunnel
>>339380005
Can confirm, Ape Escape trumps Spider.
>>339379948
Also, I'm retarded cause low video quality.
He has 6 notches, I can see the tapered end of #6, so he has 150. I retract my statement about that bullshit hit.Her doing 150 bodyshot is still bullshit, though.
>>339379064
what you honestly think ive never versed a team with 3 widowmakers? i see that shit and i relish, start licking my lips and shit cos i know im gonna fuck their asses so hard they aint wanting to play widowmaker for days
Ive also had 3 widows on my team and they've done shit, that doesnt really mean anything though, most people fucking suck so hard at this game its mind boggling
>Overwatch
>its so shit everyone gets an instakill, wallhack, iwin button
Literally babbies first fps
>>339379061
>easily counterable character.
Fucking bullshit scrublord. Just fucking bullshit. Talking out of your ass all day. I'm done with your ass.
>>339371727
It's basically the shit premium servers have been doing for years in TF2, with the difference that you only have to wait and don't have to pay for that wall hack or similar skill circumventing garbage.
I for one don't mind kids and casual casuals leaving TF2 if that means all the fucking Saigns spam disappears from my server list because those idiots all migrated to Overwatch.
>>339378046
>screencapping his own post
>"SHILLS SHILLS SHILLS"
>"/v/ is one person"
>somehow thinks he's not neo-/v/
neck yourself
why are there on average 20 overshit threads on /v/ at one?
>>339379061
>Stop playing against pub shitters.
How? Mr. Shill? How am I supposed to play something else than what the game gives to me? And what does that have to do with anything? What does that have to do with the shitty ass wallhacks in the game?
Post your address, son. It's time.
>>339379907
>Doesn't know D.va can block projectiles
If you use teamwork you can overlap your cooldowns and have almost constant uptime of the shield. Plus you can fly to a widow and fuck her up from close range.
PLUS D.va ejects from her mech when it goes down and doesn't die.
>>339379916
>Hahahaha i rek everything im that good xD
>counters don't work on me
Good job being retarded son!
>>339380229
It's popular and new. Have you only just started visiting /v/ and haven't seen the same thing happen with other popular and new games?
>>339380090
>Talking about solo queue.
Well we found your problem, you need to get the fuck out now.
>>339380229
It was new and hyped.
This happens literally every time something is new and hyped.
>>339378034
What's happening here? They changed the Mech's direction?
>>339378461
>babby's first time playing online.
This sort of shit exists since the dawn of multiplayer games.
Also, trusting a killcam to show exactly how things went up to 0, of a second. I've seen my share of my own killcams back in mw2 at the end of a round and they were always not accurate.
>>339380415
Reinhart charged it.
>>339376091
>but in Overwatch even the 200 HP characters will survive a fully-charged bodyshot, and hitting the quick fuckers EVEN knowing they're on the way still requires skilled aim
>sniping in OW with Widow is really hard
/v/ is so bad it's amazing. Try playing TF2 sniper, or even using the sniper rifle in a game like UT.
>>339380220
Jokes on you I'm OP and that post wasn't me. Where is your god now, neo /v/?
>>339373552
and having a charcter that can bouce that back is smart?
>annoying game mechanic
>defend my rage plz!
>"well you can use X mechanics to counter"
>"no you cant' broekun gam!"
>this thread
it's hilarious that half of /v/ acts like they aren't just shit at video games and have no mind for competitive play styles because they just solo queue games with their Doritos in hand
>>339380229
you've got 10/20 threads created by shills, 5/20 threads created by people laughing at how shit it is, 2/20 threads crying about how shit it is and then 3/20 porn threads. Notice how none are just straight up talking about the actual game
>>339380095
but if everyone gets it then isn't it dificult? :^)
>>339380251
>Doesn't know D.va can block projectiles
Oh wow, you mean the 3 second shield she has? And what then? The 1 widow grappled away. What now shithead? Your D.Va is getting fucked left and right, that's what.
>>339380638
>Notice how none are just straight up talking about the actual game
/v/ in a nutshell.
That being said, some of those threads are made by people who honestly enjoy the game, for whatever reason, and just want to talk about it.
Honestly I think they went too hard on the esports train. At least in tf2 it I just wanted to play sniper I could just join a non serious server and play. Overwatch forced you to play hard all the time because the game is awful with bad team comp and if you aren't pressuring the objectives it's going to be a short match.
>>339375000
>>339380184
>using other shitty game as an excuse
Nice argument, you fucking retards.
>>339380251
>almost constant uptime of the shield
So triple D.Va is fine but triple widow isn't?
Get out of here.
>>339380415
rienhart rammed it so that it came back and exploded next to the D.va
>>339380184
>I for one don't mind kids and casual casuals leaving TF2 if that means all the fucking Saigns spam disappears from my server list because those idiots all migrated to Overwatch.
You do know most of those shitters are on TF2 because it's free-to-play and they don't need to pay $40 to play the game. I doubt the kiddies and memers will leave TF2 anytime soon.
>>339380348
How much do they pay you? I'm serious I want in, this seems like easy money.
Theres zero counter play to wall hacks until they add a hero with some sort of invis
>>339380348
Is this 1 widow against a 6 man team of
Winston? I'm just curious how your brain functions.
>>339376972
>Moving the goalpost.
>>339380356
>>339380398
i get that, but the number of threads seems unusually consistent. not even mgs5 had this many threads constantly up
>>339381114
Waifus and shit, I guess.
>>339380898
The fuck? Do you have reading disabilities? I said it's fine, but it's not broken. Just how D.va shield is not broken. You can easily counter both.
>>339380005
That's one widow he can "harass" what about the rest of the team and the 2 other widows?
Seems to me that you fucks are all talking about solo queues. You prolly haven't had a good match against a 6 man team yet...
>>339376296
disgusting
>implying wallhacks even matter with footsteps and all other audio cues this loud
>>339381283
That's because you don't see 2, let alone 3, widows outside of solo queues and incredibly shitty premades.
>want to switch characters to counter enemy team composition
>ult meter is at 90%
>>339380085
can agree to this one
>>339380985
judging by the quality and sheer number of overwatch threads id say that the kiddies and memers don't really mind paying 40$ of mommys child support money.
>>339381283
At the OW tournament recently double Winston was very effective at getting people to switch away from Widowmaker. Winston is extremely mobile and can pick fights fairly effectively. He isn't unkillable, because good teams have McCree, but using him to counter snipers is incredibly common.
>>339380817
>all this theory crafting
>all this blatant ignoring of facts
Yeah we get it. You can literally 1v1 everone as widowmaker. You're so delusional.
>>339379562
>Then explain how the trail they leave will have a sudden z-like kink in it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFOFv1lVY_g
When the hitboxes overlap the arrow homes in on the model.
But the real reason is the hitboxes of both the arrow and the model are too big.
>>339380392
where the fuck did you get this information? god damn autists
if im versing a 3 widowmaker team odds are its a group verse group because only a bunch of mates would do something that stupid for fun
if you think you can stack 3 any hero but mcree you need to get the fuck out
>>339379643
>one good Winston can destroy an entire team of Widows
Only an ulted winston can do any sort of harm to a team and that's not counting ANYTHING your team can do to him. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>339381283
The only time I've ever fought against a team with 2 decent widowmakers shutting down our squishies, I went D.va and cockblocked them and their bastion the entire game long, they didn't swap away from widowmaker and we won quite fast
It doesn't matter. It doesn't need defending.
It's still going to be one of the most popular games of the year.
>>339381239
But we have almost constant wallhack on you. While you are busy flying around getting pegged left and right the rest of my team is assfucking your healer because we always know where he is.
>>339381498
You haven't yet. End of rine.
>>339380817
Grappling hook - 12 second cd
D.Va jump packs - 5 second cd
dont say shes sitting there defenseless because if youre in a sniper spot with no cover at all youre a moron
>Winston/dva is not a hard counter to widowmaker! they never go for me and kill me instantly, thats not because they're bad players but there is just no counter to widowmaker!
>>339381626
>You can literally 1v1 everone as widowmaker.
YOU ARE THE INCREDIBLE ULTRA CRETIN THAT TALKS ABOUT 1V1's , I'M TALKING ABOUT TEAMS. IT'S NOT A DVA VS A WIDOW, IT'S 3 WIDOWS AND 3 OTHERS AGAINST ANOTHER TEAM YOU MONGOLOID PIECE OF SHIT.
>>339381626
>You can literally 1v1 everone as widowmaker
Yes you can, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIEY9-mPn4&index=4&list=FLYJC9jQrfIPtn9Pv6TjHWPQ
but that's not the point. You obviously are less than an average gamer or you would know how strong 1 or more widows can be.
The wall hack is a literally useless ability.
>>339382179
>Enemy team has 3 far back camping widowmakers
>Pick Reinhardt and stand on payload
>Widowmakers dont even try to grapple to the payload and overtime it
>V I C T O R Y
>>339378461
Oh, come the fuck on. You can't expect Killcams to be 100% reliable, learn how online games work.
>>339381806
>I have shit aim and that means everyone else is shit too.
No idea what to say to you.
According to some top streamers they feel the game is alright as it is but would be much better if Widow and Symmetra got a nerf. I can see Symmetra being easily avoided and dealt with but Widow may need some type of nerf.
>>339381975
>2 decent widowmakers
How is that decent then? And a bastion? 2 widows and a bastion reeks solo queue.
>>339381664
>Watching this
Okay, yeah. I'm starting to agree with you somewhat.
>>339382179
You're a moron. Even if you go look at the faggots playing this game competitively, you never have more than one Widow. That would be extremely retarded to do.
>>339382596
>comparing some supergook to the rest of the playerbase
that's like saying everyone can have the math skills of Stephen Hawking
>>339381596
Yeah that's dual Winston. But they can only harass most of the time.
>>339382860
>Top streamers
Who gives a shit
>>339381502
Just get those 10%, go for a suicidal ult attack and then switch heroes. That's what I always do. 10% is so easy to gain anyways.
>>339382860
Those top streamers you're referencing are morons. Neither Widowmaker nor Symetra need a nerf.
Lucio needs a nerf to get more squishy and maybe McCree might need a nerf too.
>>339381851
1v1 each time, Winston does some pretty good damage. If the 6 widows are together, then it'd get hairy.
But then, what sort of retards would stack 6 widows on top of each other?
>>339382646
>Enemy team has 3 far back camping widowmakers
No.
Is everyone on neo-/v/ incredibly bad at video-games?
>>339383150
>Widowmaker doesn't need a nerf
t. Easymaker player
>>339371727
>Infinite ammo
>Wall hacks
>Aimbots
>Instant revives
>No community servers
>6v6
>Matchmaking only
>$40 + cash shop
>>339371727
A people in this thread genuinely stupid or do they just pretend to be retarded for the sake of (you)s?
Also what is your favorite voice line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QIiKLSi710
>>339383000
>supergook
I knew it /v/ is complete shit at video-games.
>>339383010
what the fuck game are you playing? how can widow possibly outrun a winston his movement ability has literally HALF the cooldown
>>339371727
And this is what seperates the retards from the smart people
You just ran out like a retard, either because you truly are stupid or had the game really quiet, which is a bad idea
A smart genji player would have heard the 'something something regarde' and known to walk around the corner reflecting to maybe get an instant countersnipe on her.
>>339382860
>top streamers
Their shit has less merit than video-game journalists. There is so much wrong with the game, starting with the servers and ending with McCree E.
>>339383353
>thinking the majority of players can make shots like those
why are you so delusional
>>339383278
and people fell for the shill's lies
>>339383414
i agree with the first part of your argument but a counter snipe? youre joking right? how can genji deflect spot widow and aim directly at her head in .1 seconds when she could be almost anywhere in that area?
>>339382971
Judging by Seagull the only one of those faggots that seems to love this game, there is no knowing what comps will be viable overall. The meta is shifting constantly and people don't always risk a lose to try new shit, but it will happen. A full wallhack match is worth a lot on that level. Don't know if it's viable in the end or not.
>>339383552
The hitboxes are massive and the guy had Mercy's damage buff.
He doesn't need a headshot to one-shot most heroes in the game under those circumstances.
>>339382860
How the fuck does Symmetra need a nerf
>>339383287
it's an overwatch thread, of course it's all about the (you)s
>>339383357
The widow has a team?????
>>339375163
>lost at the literal millisecond
I'd fucking burn my house down.
>>339373465
Are you deaf?
You can hear that sacre bleuberry across the map yelling "NO ONE CAN HIDE FROM MY SIGHTSSSSS"
>>339383414
First of all my little underdeveloped friend, I'm the Widow. And secondly look at the fucking clock, besides I don't think you know how long the wallhack is and you can have died before and didn't hear the cue.
>>339383756
hahaha how can symmetra nerf be real just walk away from the sentry nigga
>>339383792
The Winston does, too?
Are we playing a 1v6 game mode or something?
>>339383746
only 6 of his kills are with Mercy's damage buff
>>339383552
>thinking the majority of players can make shots like those
No I don't, I know I can and so do the people I play with. But for some reason shitters think everyone is as shit as they are in here.
You kids would get probed by any decent 6 man team out there.
>>339383353
you cant hit shots like that consistently , dont even for a second think youre that good, also did you see the people he was versing? winston fucking jumps to the low ground in front of her, shes standing in plain sight for about 10 seconds and was max hp for half of it
>>339376296
I keep forgetting that people play this on a console.
>>339384178
How much do you get payed per post?
>>339384353
how much do you get paid per year? what are NEET benefit rates like lately?
>>339371727
The SR71 in the CoD games was worse
>>339384353
>payed
>>339384353
>payed
>>339373618
You're full of shit. The devs intentionally made it so you had to be in a certain range to ever hear her when she ults.
ITT: people complain about a hero who is counterable in many ways but cant for the life of them change class from their waifu
pick multiple classes you fucking neckbeards
>>339378461
Ping and connections to a server are dealt with on a client-side basis in most games. It's the reason why you usually don't aim exactly where the player is, but where they are slightly moving.
Can D.va get buffed please?
Maybe add a medium range right click.
Or just remove the fucking slow while firing, goddamn.
>>339384657
also watch no one read my post and this myth gets spread over and over and Blizzard never touches Widow's ridiculously overpowered ultimate.
Try to defend this, I dare you /v/.
>>339384993
I can't NOT defend it, this is the best reason to play Torbjorn.
>>339371727
It's a casual flavor of the month shooter designed for 8 year olds.
There, I said it.
/thread
>>339384993
That's amazing
>>339384993
holy fuck that's gold
>>339378760
Wiidow's got that 20 THICK rate
>>339371727
this game looks fucking stupid
>>339378461
Way to complain about auto aim in a game WHERE A GIANT RED SKULL APPEARS IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN WHEN YOU KILL SOMEONE
>>339384993
So he waited up there the whole match in hopes of getting the POTG? Not sure if i'm impressed with his dedication or what.
>>339384993
>tfw everyone now knows your dirty deed
>>339371727
Plent of FPS games have temporary wallhacks, but I guess you're not gud enough to counter it.
>>339375000
tasty game & tasty digits
>>339371727
There's really nothing to defend. Blizzard has made this game incredibly easy to appeal to the largest amount of players they can. It's working, and you faggots are eating it up.
>>339386793
That's the first point, so it's it's actually not that bad of a spot.
I might try it next time I play hollywood. It protects you from Junkrat at least.
>>339386693
It's not even auto aim, it's what the game sees, not what the Widow player saw.
>shooter with activated abilities
>OH NO HOW DARE THEY HAVE ABILITIES THAT FORCE ME TO EITHER ADAPT OR LOSE!
>WE SHOULD ALL HAVE THE EXACT SAME CHARACTERS WITH THE EXACT SAME WEAPONS (SOME WITH SCOPES OFCOURSE) TO BE MORE COMPETETIVE LMAO
Counter/Codbabby genocide when?
>>339384993
>Game is so casual you can literally stare at asses and get the potg
Then again I hate Jorn.
>>339386793
I'm sure the enemy team was so retarded that he was well aware that he'd be able to kill them with molten core without needing to shoot himself.
>>339387095
You literally can't adapt to something with no ques that it's actually happening, at least none that matter.
Widow's voice line for her ult has a limited range unlike literally every other ult. If you're not inside that range you have no way of knowing your opponents have wallhacks until you die.
>>339387175
>Turrets give kills
>Game is so casual
Shut the fuck up and take my dick cakeboy.
>>339387308
You could do this.
i think overwatch is a steaming pile of shit
but i think it's pretty fucking clear that this is a mechanic that the gameplay is clearly balanced around
yes, having an awper with built-in wall hacks would be fucking retarded
overwatch is not counter-strike
>>339372078
this is not a competitive multiplayer fps. the skillceiling is about a centimeter high.
>>339381851
>only a ulted winston can do any harm to a team
>literally outing yourself as a shitter
Winston is a top 5 character the destroys most attackers,healers,support and both snipers
>>339387431
of course why arent i countering wallhacks with wallhacks
genius
>>339376296
jesus christ i can't believe i ever played shooters on console
i'm not even good at fps but at least I'm not as janky as the best person with a controller is at aiming
>>339387431
>>339387431
That's fucking adorable.
>>339387431
Hahaha
>>339387629
>mfw leaping at the snipers and popping my bubble so they can't hit me while they run away
Winston's fun as fuck.
>>339376296
>fps with a controller
>>339380426
>>339382685
>>339384684
Due to blizzards "Favor the Shooter" design philosophy, they designed it to do hitscans calculations from the snipers local machine.
This means that the webm your seeing is literally the HUGE allowance widowmaker has to get headshots ON HER OWN MACHINE
fucking /v/ shills
I like this game but this is inexcusable crap you massive shitlords
>>339387431
this is fucking cute
>>339387952
i know this feel
>>339388553
>>339387431
Looks like love can bloom even on a battlefield.
Try to NERF THIS
>>>/wsg/1106398
Try to defend this, I dare you /v/.
>>339388673
le ebin boss meme
>>339388854
Hanamura A is worse than any other spot in the game
>>339383908
Not when you are dead, not when it's overlapped, also don't know exact time, and if it's 2 or 3 widows it's pretty much all game and what are going to do then? Just chill in the spawn?
Fuck off.
>>339371727
I'm more concerned with how they shot the air out in front of their shins and ended up with a kill.
>>339384015
Aaaaaand? Literally and what? You got one winston on the widow all game that for some reason doesn't die and for some reason you think she can't get an ult. That whole scenario is fucked to hell and back.
You be dumb.
>>339389060
>pick 2 winstons
>have mercy or lucio follow them
>???????
>Victory
>>339389032
>Hanamura
>The map with a single chokepoint
nigger I got 30 some odd kills, a 15 killstreak, and PotG as symmetra on that chokepoint.
Hanamura is the easiest map to defend, because it almost has only one point of entry
Its your own damb fault if you fucking try to camp the spawn like an idiot and not that choke point
>>339384657
I've been saying this since thread start, shills keep chanting against it.
"YOU ALWAYS KNOW U CAN HEAR IIIIT"
>>339384665
>people complain about a hero
No people "complain" about wallhacks in a mp fps. It literally says so in the OP you incredible piece of shit.
>>339389032
How the fuck can you not hold the line on hanamura? Even the mobility shortcuts are directly above the main chokepoint, everything funnels into one easy spot to shoot at
>>339389350
thats why i said it was the worst BECAUSE it had only 1 chokepoint. most defenders will win that map at least 75% of the time
>>339388854
This map makes no fucking sense sometimes. You'll either get shut out at the very first choke point because of a Symmetra/Bastion/Zarya combo, or you'll get shut out at the very end by a Mercy/Reinhardt/Widow combo. There's almost no in-between.
>>339389570
Are you a complete retard? you didn't say "BECAUSE" at all, and you where responding to a post about a point that's HARD to defend
seriously consider a lobotomy, it would raise your reading comprehension
>>339372395
Because in the world of Overwatch it's not that overpowered when every other Ultimate has auto-aim and in most cases insta kill. You people don't even play the games you slag off, and expect your opinion to be valid. It's fucking pathetic.
>>339389785
who has autoaim besides McRee and 76?
>>339387095
>babby
Oh the irony. I want shitters to die already.
I just can't see how people claim this game "fast paced". Every video I see is fucking slow.
>>339389856
Reaper's ult is auto-aim, if we're talking about ults.
I dont need to. Its a console game. Next thing you'll tell me the game auto aims.
>/v/ has 10000 threads about overcasual a day
>/pol/ has 10000 bait burgerland election threads a day
>/b/ has 10000 trap threads a day
God this is the worst. Cant fucking stand it. I cant be the only one for fucks sake.
>>339390024
>AoE
>autoaim
kill yourself
>>339389747
im not the shitter who has trouble defending anubis point A here, all those insults wont hide how bad you are at a casual game
balance everything out by giving all classes something that feels overpowered in their own way
>>339387468
I don't loathe anything more than watching a kill cam and seeing a shitter with a wallhack tracking my ass through the wall and nuking me as soon as I come around the corner. Pair this with OHK faggotry since they obviously thought that hitscan needs to be better than projectiles, and you got one hell of a unbalanced mess.
Give Junkrat and Pharah 150dmg direct hits and way better splash-dmg than they got now and you got a sort of balance in there.
>>339390164
Is it not? I haven't actually looked at the mechanics of it, and I don't think I've ever played him. I just assumed it auto-aimed at people.
>>339388854
>defend this
I go Torb while there's a Reinhardt and Mercy on the team, boom defended.
>>339390165
>im not the shitter who has trouble defending anubis point A here
I didn't say you where, I said you didn't fucking understand the post you responded to, and them expected everyone to mind read you, and your attempt to damage control is pathetic
seriously
kill yourself
>>339371727
Most shooters add wallhacks into the game now since if they don't too many use it anyways.
It makes the cheating a little less overpowered. Still stronger to just have it on all the time and not waste an ability on it of course.
>>339388798
>Bastion running forward instead of just casually keeping his shield up
I wish I got put against retarded players, all I ever go against is coordinated team stacks
>>339390301
>Spin animation is exactly the same
>auto aim
checking line of sight in an AoE is not auto aim
please seriously consider the following:
Kill yourself
>>339390301
It's just a big AoE that constantly pulses damage, doing more the closer Reaper is to his targets
>>339390474
99% of the reinhardts I've seen seem to have forgotten they have a melee because I just run up and punch them
>>339389856
Reaper and the rest are either buffs or AOE damage, which surprise surprise needs little to no aiming.
Technically Widowmaker has one of the few Ultimates that requires you to aim to be able to kill.
>>339390153
>browsing /pol/
>browsing /b/
>browsing /v/
>>339375163
>>339375294
>>339378818
Not sure if these are jokes, but the reason it didn't work wasn't because he missed
The piece of terrain he was on is poorly navmeshed, so he was hitting the invisible box around it
>t. 400 hours in New Vegas
>>339390510
>>339390502
oh, huh
>>339372078
>I want every FPS to be the same I am boring the post
>>339378461
You expect a killcam to be 100% accurate? In a game that runs 20 ticks?
It's the same like these people baiting with the 16 tick CSGO replays.
>>339372078
All the mad redditord replying to you, Jesus.
I agree with you though, all ultimate don't reward skilled players, pressing a is something like the ultimate smash moves in Smash bros. it's cheap shit.
>>339390581
>doesn't need to aim = auto aim
KILL
YOURSELF
>>339390615
Fuck You too smug. Ya im mad.
>>339371727
>playing Overshill
>playing babby's first class FPS
you shiters are cute
>>339390153
it's time to say goodbye i think ):
>>339390706
Read >>339388381
you massive shitlord
>>339376972
>>339381113
Should of ended here.
The wallhack is fine, because there are obvious counters to it.
>>339385437
16* year olds.
Everyone in this thread defending this shit game is in high school.
>>339390502
You are a dense motherfucker aren't you. Do you know what aiming is? If I don't have to put my mouse cursor on the thing I am shooting then it is auto aim. Even with Soldier 76 you are required to face your target for shots to lock on, the same with McRee. Why are you such a flaccid prick?
>>339391010
AoE IS NOT THE PLAYER SHOOTING,
EVEN IF IT HAS A "SHOOTING" ANIMATION
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>>339379082
8/10 kek'd
>>339390702
I don't like wallhacks in a game and that's why I am boring.
Makes perfect sense you incredible ultra nigger
>>339391293
>I don't understand balance and I also suck at games every game must be the same like my Call of Duty
>>339391293
Bro, I know this is hard to believe, but most FPS games have maps that tell you the position of the enemies. Its been a thing for a while now.
Bro.
Bro you are just a fucking idiot.
>>339378760
That's not tick
It looks like lag
>>339390965
>The wallhack is fine, because there are obvious counters to it.
There is no counter to the wallhack you thundercunt
What is it with you idiots, are you all literally shills?
>>339387431
qt as fuck
>>339391530
I can name three off the top of my head. Stop baiting
>>339384993
literally the only reason to play this shit
During the beta thats all I did. I should have kept my creepshots. I would have melee'd that ass tbqh.
>>339390153
>/v/
>/pol/
>/b/
what the FUCK were you even expecting
>People actually think wallhacks are okay
>>339391456
I want to shit down your throat.
>>339392041
And I want to stay awake at how fucking boring you are for wanting all FPS to be the same.
>>339371727
>>339372078
>>339371870
You guys do realize that Genji isn't behind a wall when Widow kills him right? He tries to jump out onto the road and he gets killed.
>>339391357
>wallhacks
>ballance
ok familia.
>>339391530
>being this upset over a game you don't like or play
>>339392275
>Can't even beat Widowmaker
Way to suck at a casual game, man. She has a lot of hard counters.
Next you'll complain about Hanzo's ult, right?
>>339375000
>Other shitty game has this so it's fine
LEL are you serious? You could have at least picked a good game to make this idiotic claim.
>>339378936
>No, you can't. Her Ult is the only one that has a limited vocal range.
Wrong. It's global, but she whispers it so most people don't even hear it
>>339392447
no, i don't even play the game.
>>339392814
>Doesn't play the game
>Thinks he has any right to criticism over anything
>>339373465
>"You cant hide from my sight"
Dude. Audio in Overwatch is everything.
>>339391709
START WITH ONE
There is none. It's not in your hands you moron.
>>339392983
of course I do. this is a mechanic that is considered cheating in most other games.
regardless of the fact whether i played the game or not, stating that wallhacks are not a way to balance a game is ok.
>>339378760
Tick doesn't affect client side hit detection.
>>339393256
>I want every FPS to be the same I am boring the post
Its cheating in other games because the game was not built around it in mind.
It is not cheating in Overwatch because it is built with it in mind.
How is this so hard to understand? This is the last time I respond to you normally. I will call you boring every single time I know you post.
>>339392447
Widow's only counter is the player's aim.
>>339392561
It's definitely not global. There's a range on it, it's inaudible outside of that range.
>>339393426
No. She has hard counters like Widowmaker, Hanzo, Soldier 76, Gengi, and the most obvious, Winston.
>>339393426
How bout not being out in the fucking open?
She's made of tissue paper. You so much sneeze on her, she dies. So she has to hide. Exposing the smallest bit of her. Her head. Which means she dies faster.
Stop being out in the open. She is punishing you for walking into the wrong neighborhood. That is her role.
>>339393476
No. It's global. If somebody use an ult, everybody hear it. The message change depending if it's friendly or not.
>>339393403
never stated anything agains wallhacks. just stated that wallhacks don't balance the game.
however, now that you mention it, i would be ok if there would be a counter to wallhack, let's say some ability that cancels the wallhack in a radius or something.
>>339371727
Her entire team should not get the benefit. Way too overpowered.
>>339393680
>I am boring the post all FPS games should be the same
>>339378760
>>339379398
It's the fault of that shitty fence in the way. It is one of those destroyable objects that block a lot more area than what the model would suggest. A bullet won't do shit to it, but melee or an explosion will knock it over.
The player was hitting the fence with its shitty solid collision box.
The widow in the distance was shooting the exposed legs of the player.
>>339371727
Git gud
>>339372646
literally whispers it in french when every other character yells it almost map-wide
>>339393759
this is childish.
>>339393819
>I am so fucking boring why is every game not exactly like each other I will criticize them without even playing them
>>339393710
No. That's her ult. Hanzo can give it on a particular area. Widowmaker ult is to give X ray vision for everybody. That's it. She do not pull a multi kill. Just stop people from jumping on your team.
>>339388381
>"Favor the Shooter" design philosophy
Wew do they actually call it that? What pretentious shits they are to call something as basic shit like client side hit detection with such terms.
>>339393807
>in french
Bro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSQaVF5kmdc
>>339378182
And aim assist, TF2 looked exactly like this shit on console.
>>339371727
there seriously is some assfaggots-tier butthurt circulating around this game and its really concerning
>>339393946
instead of providing a counter-argument to my statement, you did a fall-back on the fact that i don't play the game or assumed that i liked boring fps.
very childish. as expected from an Overwatch player.
>>339380426
PFFFFTTTH, TRY BACK ON COD1 faggot.
Kill cam was never reliable, but it did give context to your death. It's an assist learning device for players to help prevent MUH PATENTED RAPE TACTIC.
>>339391852
>people dont realize that its a temporary ult that someone has to do wait till its charged to use and there are even more op ults
>>339394064
>Rename common shit that's been around forever
>INNOVATION
Learning from the best.
>>339393528
Not the guy you were talking to but the only actual counter is Winston. The rest of them are not her counters at all, a Widow with really good aim and understanding of the characters can kill all the other characters with ease. It only takes 1 headshot.
>>339394084
Enemy Widow sounded less pronounced and quieter than the NO ONE CAN HIDE FROM MY SIGHT on the allied side.
>Soldier 76 is so boring
>He has the best utility
Fuck.
>>339393179
Uninformed shitters are my favorite kind of idiot.
>>339394084
>Bro
friendly widowmaker announces her ult (quite loudly) in english. But you don't need to hear that - the red silhouettes are enough of a giveaway.
Enemy widowmakers whisper in french. saying 'personne n'échappe à mon regard'
I played in beta and for the longest time I thought she didn't say anything until I finally heard it while half-afk in an empty room with no other nearby sounds
for such a strong ult, it needs to be much louder
>>339395020
perhaps you would enjoy Roadhog more
>>339372395
Because the little shits who wallhacked and aimboted became the next gen of gamers.
>>339371727
she's got a visor that lets her see through walls what did you expect
>>339373680
How can a person be this fucking stupid
>>339395065
Here a suggestion. Go in the sound options and boost voices and reduce the rest.
Fix all your ult problems.
>>339387431
Widow maker x McRee shipping when?
I bet she gnaws on her lip when she sees his cherry hue at night.
>>339395350
>She watches him masturbate
>>339387431
It's lovely.
>>339387656
This is not wallhacks. This is a feature. Wallhacks would be doing that without Hanzo or Widowmaker. That would be cheating.
>>339373894
>If you're going to talk about a game you need to either find an in game screenshot that cannot be found in google or take one yourself.
>Any marketing images used mean you're automatically a shill.
>>339395539
>It's a feature
FPS Genre really fell to a new low
next thing we know, noclipping becomes a feature
>>339395419
>He can see this and doesn't give a fuck, keeps going, eventually tipping her off by looking straight at her lens reflectionyou could say it was as if it was high noon.
>>339395707
we already have it.
>playing Widowmaker
why?
I can't wait til the little babies of /v/ stop posting "muh balance" Overwatch threads every time they get their punk ass killed by *literally* any character in the game.
Git fucking gud or get some friends to co-ordinate with, you cunts.
>>339378719
they have to be close to the target, you don't paint them like Red Dead
>>339395239
youre the stupid one if all you can post is insults
he's right by the way
>>339395707
Gotham City Imposters did Wall Hax as a feature long before Overwatch.
Did you whine when the Medic of TF2 could make any player Invulnerable?
Or the Spy could one shot anybody he got closed to?
Or what about the engy giving regen health to people?
This is not call of duty or Battlefield. This is a hero game where weird things happen. Adapt to it or leave. It's not like Heat vision goggles are a new idea or thing.
Hell, Perfect Dark on the N64 had a Sniper rifle that could see, and shoot through the wall and had an auto finding target feature.
>>339396291
The diference is that none of that games was forced to be an e-sport like Blizz is trying to do with Overwatch.
>>339393763
i hate that shit about obstacles
> using a rocket thatll kill me if hit something too close to me
> clearly aiming around a corner with nothing in the way
> get hit because invisible obstacle
>>339396813
Basketball with Trampoline was forced as a sport on TV too for a while.
If everybody know about these features then who care?
You hear Widowmaker ult go off, then you use other tactics, you keep your head down and stay behind walls and nobody can kill you.
When your widowmaker goes, it's hunting season.
>>339371727
>defend this
There's nothing to defend.
If you don't like a product you can ignore it and go enjoy another product.
>>339395251
Then you're reduced to not being able to hear footsteps as well, which are very important.
>>339398284
Sure, but voices are not too often, if you put music at 40, sound effects at 70 and voices at 100 then you are fine.
>>339378046
>bans SFM porn
Stopped reading right there. For an enlightened gentlesir this guy sure can't recognize marketing stunts for shit.
>>339371727
I bet you're one of the idiots who complained about the wallhack in Blacklight Retribution, or the smart pistol in Titanfall
you fucking stupid fuck
>>339381065
There are several heroes with shields. Zarya even gets stronger when her shield gets hit.
>>339376091
>fully charged body shot
>can almost instantly follow it up
200hp characters are just ones you have to shoot twice, and considering widowmaker has a very low firing delay, that isn't a problem. I still go for mostly head shots, even though it isn't competitively necessary on anything but tanks because you charge so fast.
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