>people are returning their copies of Star Fox Zero
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/random_store_shelves_appear_to_be_filling_with_pre-owned_copies_of_star_fox_zero
great job assholes, if this keeps up soon we'll be stuck on Star Fox Limb0 again until Dylan Cuthbert picks it up again.
>Zero 2 will never happen
>you will never experience full-fledge levels with the Roadmaster
>Gyrocopter element removed in favor to it
they could bring back Krystal, without the bullshit, for all i care.
jesus
>you will never blah blah blah expanded elaborated blah
Didn't they have long enough to do this to begin with?
come the FUCK on
>>338927549
There is a shelf full of Uncharted 4 at my local CEX
Does that really mean anything?
>Nintendo thought this was enough to carry them for an entire year
Makes sense, I know I returned mine.
Star Fox was always a terribly overrated series. It really should never have been a series. They hit pay dirt with 64 because it had the horsepower to give shape to what they were trying to do on SNES in the original, but it should have stopped there.
It should have never become a key Nintendo franchise. The genre itself is basically dead regardless of the franchise.
I'd rather keep my $60 than own that turd for another second, which I did. God bless Amazon Prime.
>>338927684
people whined about the linear Day/Night shit Miyamoto was going to implement
>>338927770
If they'd actually franchised the thing effectively, SF could have been great.
But remaking the same game 4 times, then having 2 awful spin offs, all spread out over 23 years is not how you get your shit together.
>>338927743
New unopened Uncharted 4.
>>338927770
>key Nintendo franchise
Could have fooled me with the way they were treating it.
>>338927743
Uncharted 4 is overstocked everywhere. Starfox Zero is usual artificial scarcity Nintendo bullshit release numbers.
You know it to be true.
And then Nintendo will recall and destroy every unsold copy and that will drive the price up on the used market.
>>338927770
t. one of the 10 people who bought Sin and Punishment games
>>338927848
Assault was a sequel, not a remake.
It was still the worst of the four.
>>338927859
>CEX
>New
Anon. Pls.
>>338927893
Doesn't matter. People are trading it in a few weeks after release. Like every game. Some people just don't hold to games.
>>338927549
>sonygger site
>legit
nice try sonygger
>series is just a platform for Miyamoto's dumbshit experiments
The horrendous on-foot sections of Assault were all him.
>>338927940
nintendrones return their games less than other people
>>338927760
they got pokemon coming. they'll fucking live.
>>338927940
>Some people just don't hold to games.
especially if the game in question isn't good
>>338927646
>spreads it over shelf to prove point
The games behind aren't starfox
>>338927925
>SF
>SF64
>SF3D
>SFZ
Basically the same game with graphical jumps
>Assault
Shitty sequel
>Command
>Adventures
Shitty spin offs
Nintendo killed Star Fox by refusing to develop it well
>>338928028
Right but Uncharted and Starfox are good.
I wish I could return the experience of playing the game.
I don't understand how this game turned out bad. Like even if you ignore the motion controls (which worked fine, but weren't needed), the entire game is just fucking bad.
>3 UFO Bosses
>2 Dragon Bosses
>Stages without bosses or Star Wolf fights
>Every Boss is an All Range Mode fight, even the Attack Carrier which fucking matches you speed anyway
>Gigarilla and Andross are fucking Walker fights
>The auto-lock on so you can't even fly normally
>>338928024
Even Pokemon has been falling off for them lately.
>>338928015
Really? You'll have data to back that up?
>>338928028
Debatable. Uncharted 4 is apparently the best game of the year so far. And you can get a second hand copy for £20, 2 weeks after it came out.
>Metroid Prime
>beginning of the end for the Metroid series
>Starfox Adventures
>beginning of the end for the Starfox series
Why was the Gamecube such a piece of shit?
>>338927940
CeX do sell new games, you retard. How do you think they sell games before street date? All they do is open the sealed packaging so they can sell it as preowned.
>>338927549
>Star Fox Adventures was dogshit
>Star Fox Assault was fuckshit
>Star Fox Zero was fucking abysmal
Nah, fuck this series. Star Fox 64 was great but nothing else has been good in this series. Nintendo should either sell it to someone else or end the franchise.
>>338928136
GC is the most overrated console Nintendo ever made.
>Worst SF
>Worst Zelda
>Worst Metroid (Prime 2)
>Worst Mario Party
>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)
Co-op mode is super fun in Star Fox 0. Single player, not so much. They should have marketed it as something to play with 2 people.
>>338928179
>sell new games
>as pre owned
Stop being a retard. Post a source or shut the fuck up.
>>338928235
>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)
Bullshit.
>>338928117
You can? Where from?
>>338928302
>>338928302
>They should have marketed it
FYFYMNYDEHTTM
>>338928013
I want Gamecube/GBA era Nintendo back so badly. Remember when Nintendo broke the status quo on a lot of their franchises?
Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Mario Sunshine, Thousand Year Door, Double Dash.
>>338928313
Dual Dash is really hyped up by Gamecube apologists but it's honestly pretty bad.
>>338928235
Don't forget worst Super Mario.
And with Melee the worst sub-community.
>>338927549
>60 dollars game
>only 9 short levels
>basically SF 64 spit polished
What the fuck did you expect?
>>338928235
Nigger you are fucking stupid if you think if the Wii Mario Parties are better than the GC ones.
No, you are stupid. Your whole post is just dumb.
>>338928348
CEX, Game, HMV, any shop that sells second hand games really.
The video game market in the UK is ridiculous. I got Xenoblade for a tenner because, and I quote the manager here, "no one knows what a Xeno is"
>>338928106
No it hasn't. ORAS sold 13 million copies, almost as much as HGSS on a system with one third the userbase. Freaking Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
>>338928106
making a shitty remake to Ruby/Sapphire that took out more stuff from the originals than it introduced didn't help. Also Yokai Watch blew up around then so no shit pokemon sales were down.
>>338928357
>broke the status quo on a lot of their franchises?
Breaking the status quo of them actually being good isnt a good thing, Anon.
>>338928357
The Wii was the start of Nintendo's downfall. And it's seen a hard fall since then.
>>338927760
You know how SE are determined to make FFXV succeed by basically pleasing fans, showing progress, accepting criticism, etc?
Nintendo need to do that. A company that doesn't do what its fans want is ridiculous
So is it true that purple fox Crystal cucks Star Fox?
>>338928450
>"no one knows what a Xeno is"
Britain - not even once.
>>338928585
Except they still think they are doing what people want.
>>338928461
>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>338928647
Exactly. But sales are falling. How can they fucking ignore that? How long for? When no-one bought the WiiU, they said it was because the gamepad isn't seeing much use.
This fucking company, man
>>338928585
>Nintendo
>giving a shit about the fans
Keep dreaming.
>>338928404
Saying it's a polished 64 would imply the game is actually fast.
>>338928585
SE is already anticipating FFXV to fail,why do you think they took their biggest potential cash cow (FFVII remake) and chopped it into multiple $60 purchases?
>"I haven't been involved in Star Fox since 64!"
>Producer of Assault and Command
why Shiggy had to lie?
>>338928461
>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
IN the US. It still hasn't outsold total sales.
>>338928235
Other M and Phantom Hourglass you fucking nigger.
>DD bad
Kill yourself.
>>338928450
GAME sell it for like near on 50 in store, CeX sell it for 45 and HMV don't even sell games any more IIRC. If you get it for 20, you can profit by selling it to CeX. You are you're not confusing it with the Nathan Drake collection?
When I asked my local GAME if they were stocking Xenoblade X, the manager said "lol that rubbish game? no-one know what that is and no-one buy Wii U game". He was Indian. I'm surprised anyone buys anything from GAME considering how ridiculous their in store prices are.
>>338928720
See, I can see where they're coming from with this.
>MP series was dipping, let's franchise Metroid and try another Metroid when this game releases, to see if the series is on more people's radar
Fine. Whatever.
>SS and SPM are the biggest selling Paper Mario games, let's try it again
Fine. Whatever.
But going back on their now 10 year mentality of multiple ways to control games in favour of a single control scheme in Star Fox?
Literally what is the thinking behind that?
>>338928106
Do you just say things to sound smart?
>>338928753
It's not gonna fail, but there's no way it's gonna sell the 10+ millions needed to cover the retarded development expenses. But it doesn't mean they aren't listening to the fans.
>>338928983
>It's not gonna fail, but there's no way it's gonna sell the 10+ millions needed to cover the retarded development expenses
>It's not gonna fail, it just won't make money.
I'll be astonished if FFXV is a complete game, it's looking more MGSV all over again.
>>338928983
FFXIV, XI, and DQX will continue to cover any losses that XV brings, so there's no problem if it only sells 2-3 million.
>Assault's single player is disappointing
>Command's single player is trash
>Zero is lackluster hybrid of SF2 and SF64
can we get Retro Studios on this?
i honestly feel like giving up on the series at this point
KI:U didn't do any justice for me either
They did it wrong
>have splatoon pre ordered for cheap price
>previews and demo comes out
>it's shit
>cancel it
And haven't regretted that decision for one second. Why anyone even got so far to actually buying star fox is pretty troubling
>>338928858
>lol that rubbish game? no-one know what that is and no-one buy Wii U game"
Why do console warriors take jobs like this? I remember buying FE Radiant Dawn from GAME, because it was cheap as fuck, and the conversation went like this
>put game in front of guy
>Dude, a Wii game? Really? Why do you have a Wii?
>Because I like the games
>Damn man, I've got a Xbox One and its the best console
>Why not just get a PS4? It has most of the same games but it runs them better
>I HATE Sony, I'd never get a Sony console
What the fuck ARE these people? I don't know if I'm noticing this shit more because I'm in my late 20s, but the 18 year olds they get to work in these shops is ridiculous
>>338928802
In Japan too, check Media Create. Unless SFV has a huge lead over Pokken in Europe, that's worldwide sales as well. Although we won't know until Nintendo releases Pokken's full sales.
>>338928461
>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
Sonyggers on suicide watch?
>>338929124
I dunno, not even PlatinumGames could save Star Fox, it might be time to lay it to rest.
>>338928179
Worst attempt at bait I've seen in quite a while. You should be disappointed mate
I'd say no one wants to pay $60 for a 20 year old experience but DOOM is blowing that theory out of the water.
>>338929079
If FFXV someone has the same unfinished feel that MGSV had, I'm not sure I would be able to hold off my suicide for KH3.I'm killing myself after KH3 because I know it will be the final straw
>>338929227
I dunno much about FFXV, but it sounds a lot like development is troubled. Its out in a few months and they're constantly changing shit, just released a demo with horrible frame rate/resolution (including an area lifted straight from the game, with one character, and limited magic use)
>>338928136
>>338928235
>>338928385
So I'm not the only one! I don't know how those games get so much love.
For me the Gamecube was the first Nintendo console I needed to supplement with a second console (PS2). Then a XB360 to go with the Wii, and probably a PS4 to go with my Wii U. I actually own more Wii games than PS2 and XB360 games combined, and I love my Wii U, but the GCN marked the beginning of a lacking library, especially if you're a fan of genres that just can't be had on Nintendo hardware.
The N64 was a blunder too but at least it carried the generation for me.
>>338927646
This is why I have a modded 5.3.2 Wii U. So I can try before I buy.
>>338927549
>Shit game
>Shit series
>Shit everything
Who cares
>>338929358
Right, and Zero being good would mean you buy it.
>>338929163
SFV sold 1.4 million copies, with at least 155k copies sold on Steam.
>>338929217
i haven't played DooM for a long fucking time
is DOOM any good?
>>338929324
Yeah I feel you there.
At the moment, Nintendo are good for platformers, the occasional above standard action or JRPG game, and Mario Kart. That's fine, but sometimes you just need something a little different. I got Arkham Origins on WiiU just because the collection I had lacked anything I could play for more than an hour at a time, and more than once. You know how Nintendo just took their first leap with multiplayer TPS with Splatoon? They need to do the same with cinematic games
>>338927549
NINTENDOMINATION!
>>338927549
hmmmm what this tells me... is go out and buy a brand new copy and never open it and stash it away in a safe place and in about 10 years it will be worth a grip load. Most nintendo bullshit only goes up in value anyways due to their publishing philosophies.
>>338928136
>>beginning of the end for the Metroid series
>what is Prime 2 and Fusion
not to mention that Metroid was supposed to end at Super Metroid
>>338928097
Yep. It's like they didn't even try to mix it up at all. At least in 64 you DID have the option of taking the All Sectors/Arwing Only route, and the boss fights were generally mostly on rails with a few All Range ones sprinkled in for flavor.
They literally didn't need to touch 64's formula and just reskin it with pretty graphics, some updated music, a few boss revisits (like the carrier) with some new boss fights added in.
I mean, shit, how many of the bosses in SNES Fox and 64 had some sort of interesting gimmick? It really shouldn't have been that fucking hard to come up with new ones without relying on that retarded gyro shit or walker.
I said the same thing about Command when I first got it. All THAT needed to be was a a reskinned/retooled version of Starfox 2, since it borrowed heavily from it anyways, and we got some faggoty stylus shit and barrel rolling into UFOs.
Nevermind the fact that they decided to do some updated tracks from 64 instead of the objectively fucking awesome soundtrack that SNES had. Seriously, I dont know if they fired the composer after Starfox 2 got canceled, but the music hasn't been that great ever since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSvnRtI54k
>>338928136
It wasn't your taste are just shit.
Mario Kart Double Dash
All the Resident Evil games were the superior versions
Melee
Luigi's Mansion
Pikmin
Animal Crossing
Paper Mario
The list goes on.
>>338927549
>mediocre 10 hour game sold at full price is being returned already
Woooah.
I own a Wii U and even I think you people are retarded for buying this shitty game.
Instead of buying actual games with good content and replay value like Xenoblade, you went and bought this mediocre sloppy handjob experience
Nintendo really fucked up, Nintendo still produces garbage games that no one asked while continuing to ignore Core titles that are in desperate need of resurgence like F-Zero or Metroid. SF has only had one good game.
>SF
Decent for it's time. Bad for a current game
>SF64
Good for it's time. Decent for a current game
>SF3D
Shitty rehash by nintendo just trying to make that quick buck.The horrible hardware ruins this game
>SF Z
Good example of Neo-Nintendo.Average game ruined by horrible gimmicks, nostalgia cash ins and rehashed.
>>338928356
Uh, what planet are you living on? They did. They had this ad playing around the clock on TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAn5AgdPkCo
Not to mention they commissioned a fucking anime short and livestreamed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA2-0nTxaGg
They also had big promotions with Gamestop over it.
There are plenty of games Nintendo didn't market but Star Fox isn't one of them.
>>338930471
dumb umaru poster
I heard that the controls are terrible, but is it really bad enough to make it an unsalvageable mess?
>>338930701
They're not. Anyone who says they are probably shitposts the same thing about Splatoon. You get used to it after a while.
>>338929307
I know I'm 3 hours late, but most of the changes have been based on fan feedback (like adding a stamina bar for sprinting) so they're not just changing things for no reason and the demo was just quickly slapped together in 2 months by a small portion of the dev team.
>>338930701
Well, if a game hinges on a gimmick and you find the gimmick unbearable, retarded, and most of all, unavoidable/not optional, then yes.
>>338930701
The whole game is a non-cohesive gimmicky shitfest.
It's hardly about the controls, but more about how the game plays.
Just more proof of Miyamoto going senile and no one wanting to tell him to fuck off because he's LE LEGENDARY DEVELOPER
He needs to quit already
>>338928136
>Metroid Prime
>Bad
What the fuck are you smoking?
>>338927646
>People didn't like a 3 hours mediocre game?
Really?!.......
You could have supported good games like Bayonetta 2 or Xenoblade Chronicles X
But no, you decided to support le nostalgia furry series.
I hope you're proud of yourselves, assholes.
>>338928356
There was a SF0 trailer playing when I was in the theatres to watch Captain American 3. They marketed the hell out of it.
>>338930345
>>338931313
Stop samefagging.
I bought the collector's edition of Xenoblade.
>>338928461
It's still under 12 mln copies
Didn't even outsell FRLG
>>338927549
Hopefully they'll drop the price to like $10-20 (inb4 green text Nintendo games ever dropping in price). I may force myself to suffer through the gyro shit for that price.
>>338931558
Or you could boot up Loadiine and try out the game for free.
It's literally putting a couple folders in an SD card and launching internet browser.
I really, really liked Star Fox Zero.
Too bad you can't have a single good discussion about it on the internet.
>>338931641
I still can't believe how simple Wii U piracy is compared to 3DS.
Given, you still can't play online or pirate DLC on Loadiine
>>338930701
The gameplay structure is really archaic by today's standards. The main quest can be finished in about 3 hours, the intent being that you replay the whole thing again to see all of the branching routes (which don't even affect the ending). The problem is barely anyone replays their games nowadays unless they're really, really good, which SF0 isnt, hence the whole premiese falls flat on it's face.
>>338931641
I'll have to look into that. I don't know jack shit about wii u piracy.
>>338931684
I thought it was good, but not great. Definitely could've used more content. They had roadmaster all ready to go and never used it in any levels, and a full body version of Andross only used in one cutscene.
Controls took some getting used to but by the second playthrough I had it down pat.
>>338931951
Any retard can do it. It's idiotproof
>>>/vg/hbg
>>338927549
It was a decent cinematic experience, but an eh game
>>338928753
FFVII remake was always going to be episodic, it's a fucking huge game and has a lot more bespoke, tailored content than today's open world fests.
>>338931963
I thought the Co-Op was amazing. Probably the most fun way to play the game.
I feel like the game itself is just an alternate way to play 64. Not trying to outdo it or be a different game. 64 being one of my all time favorites, I felt like Zero was on par simply because it was the same game with some different stuff. Like it sucks that the forever train isn't in it, but then again I could just go back and play it on 64. Maybe I'm just easy to please.
>>338932346
Well Inever have anyone to play co-op with in games ;_;
>>338927549
Gimmicks are dead anon, accept it and move on.
>>338927549
I'd rather Star Fox die than become Miyamoto's personal bitch.
Good.
If your unnecessarily gimmicky game requires a delay to work out the issues with controls and on release day it still manages to turn off both casuals and the series' fans, it deserves to collect dust on store shelves.
Everyone was better off buying a copy of Star Fox 64 3D, another rehash of 64 except with optional gyro controls that didn't shit the bed and a multiplayer mode.
What's even sadder was that this shit was Nintendo's big title last E3. It was already a sad shitshow and with Iwata dying a month later it only makes this even more depressing.
Feels so good you will finally get to witness the end of Nintendo:
>Dead in the water in the home console space. Sony and MS to release incremental upgrades that put them far ahead of whatever the NX will be.
>Market share in mobile space being whittled down by smartphones, and Google/Apple haven't even BEGUN to systematize a mobile gaming strategy of their own.
>No VR plans. Samsung Galaxy Gear has already moved a million units despite being a proprietary headset and running shitty, basically alpha, first iteration technology and only the crest of the wave.
>New IPs cannot compete with major third-party multiplayer IPs like Overwatch.
God I cannot wait.
I've always thought Nintendo was shit. I've always thought OoT was overrated garbage, along with Mario. It's finally going to happen. I will live to see Nintendo go software only.
>>338932428
https://youtu.be/aJ-aPSpPYbU?t=50s
Playing the peppy level with a friend is so much like this.
>>338928357
Don't lump Sunshine and Double Dash with actually good games
>>338933058Dont fell for ez baits
>>338928585
>basically pleasing fans, showing progress, accepting criticism, etc?
Yeah, it's not like something crucial to the quality of the game like the group of characters you play as is being justly hated by everyone who isn't a dirty fujoshi.
>>338928136
Yeah the Gamecube is easily Nintendos worst.
>>338927549
This is what happens when you don't put Krystal.
>>338933365
Literally nobody cares about the opinions of Nintendo fans on Final Fantasy. Half of you haven't played a single title in the franchise other than the crap that occasionally washes up on Nintendo platforms now and again.
>>338932884
I wonder if people will ever get tired of saying this.
>b-but I have a good feeling about it this time!
wew
>>338933394
The eternal butthurt SF0 causes Krystalfags is the best part of it. Don't even care if it fails, it's worth it just for that.
>>338928235
>worst Mario Party
I'm legitimately curious about this, because 5 was really good.
>>338932884
> This is it! Nintendo is finished now!
Said anon for the millionth time.
>>338933505
>Literally no one cares about Final Faggotry.
FTFY
>>338933594
>If it held true once, it will hold true every time!
>>338933796
Nice wishful thinking. Keep hoping you'll replicate the Wii's success.
There is no way out of the hole Nintendo have dug for themselves. Some "blue ocean strategy" lol.
>>338933874
>second biggest MMO
>mainline franchise entries easily sell in excess of 7 million a pop
>tons of spin-offs that sell in excess of 1 million
>>338933918
> There is no way out of the hole Nintendo have dug for themselves.
Screencapping your comment for posterity.
>>338934063
The fact you think there is going to be this big resurgency with the NX is beautiful. It will make your tears that much more delicious.
Controls are convoluted as fuck. I never feel anything is unbeatable, just cheeseable after struggling for the lowest possible clear score. I want action, not super micro management.
>>338933918
Nintendo is a very efficient company. They've only been in the red ONCE in the 50 years since they went public. They even made a profit off the Wii U. Unlike Sony which lost $300 on every PS3 sold for 3 years causing billions in debt.
Sega only went third party after three failed console launches in a ROW. Nintendo isn't going anywhere as much as your shitposting wants them to. Not to mention they have enough cash from the Wii to last three console generations.
>>338934152
no one said anything about a big resurgance, but you're out of your mind if you think nintendo, with the fucking thousand places they have their fingers in the industry, will go bankrupt anytime soon
every month people are yelling nintendo is finished
there are too many smash and pokemon babies for nintendo to ever die out
if they need quick money they make a rehash mario or pokemon and they make a quick buck
>>338934019
You do know that's mediocre compared to what it used to pull, right?
>>338927549
>no new story to build upon the long-dormant star fox franchise
>unpleasant controls
>Platinum's influence seems reigned in more than usual.
>no gameplay depth or customization
>genuinely fun moments are too few and far between
Nintendo should have realized that having to recalibrate controls on the fly all the time isn't fun. We could have had
>online 4 player co-op lobbies where players take on levels as the entire star fox team.
>Arwing customization (+Speed +Power +Armor)
>8 player dogfight death match mode with Star Fox vs. Star Wolf
>Giant mech fights based project giant robot
>Cool menus that show off the great fox interior
>>338934726
You don't understand the concept of product ROI. A company pulling a gross profit doesn't justify significant investment of capital into developing new platforms with a dwindling market share.
It's dependent on the scale of their profit and what that profit is most contingent upon, if it's primarily software, then the platforms themselves and the associated costs (R&D, hardware outsourcing etc) are a loss in of themselves.
>>338927549
> People trade in used games
Holy shit this is news?
>>338931313
>Good game
>Bayonetta
>My mfw when
>>338935250
Final Fantasy VII (11.14 million)
Final Fantasy X (8.05–10 million)
Final Fantasy VIII (8.711 million)
Final Fantasy XIII (7.48 million)
gg nintendrone. The worst FF managed to be the fourth best selling in history, counting its sequels, which weren't significant cost-wise because of re-use of assets and so on, it pushed 20 million plus.
yeah let's keep buying shitty nintenautism games for a slim chance of good game ever happening again while nintendo is busy removing boobies from every single major 3ds/wiiu release instead
Good job Shiggy
>>338935756
nice downwards trend you got there
The masses nowadays don't care for a game like Star Fox, if the game is short they'd rather have cinematics/story than gameplay. Although shiggy dropped the ball hard with his innovation bullshit.
Even if the game was good though, if it was what Star Fox fans wanted, it still wouldn't have sold well because the masses don't care for games like these.
>>338936256
>downwards trend
>XIII outsold IX
>X outsold everything apart from VII
>>338928117
>Uncharted 4 is apparently the best game of the year so far.
you must not play many games
>>338927549
People do that with every game. Hell, I remember seeing piles of used copies of games like GTAV and Bloodborne at fucking gamestop.
Besides, you realize this mean jack shit? When they bought the game, they gave their money to Nintendo. By selling it, Nintendo doesn't lose a single cent.
>>338928308
People who work in those Amazon warehouses steal the games and sell them to Cex who unseal them and sell them for their normal preowned price.
Talk to anyone who works there and they'll tell you every launch week some chav looking fucker will sell them 12 copies of the same game sealed.
>>338936485
>13 outsold the least popular redheaded stepchild in the series
Also
>only 7mil sales for the first FF game that was truly multiplat and available on every platform
>only 7mil sales after such a gigantic marketing campaign
FF is dead.
I didn't even finish the game. I just lost interest. Couldn't even play it for more than an hour a day.
>[Wii U] Star Fox Zero / Star Fox Guard Double Pack (Nintendo, 04/21/16) – 17,114
>[Wii U] Star Fox Zero (Nintendo, 04/21/16) – 8,135
>[PS4] Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End (SIE, 05/10/16) – 128,725
>>338936657
>FF is dead
Just like E3 is dead because Nintendo doesn't exhibit there anymore, amirite?
>>338937092
nah, but its clearly shit and pointless now.
three days of nothing but CoD and Assassins Creed.
>>338934726
And remember, them being in the red had NOTHING to do with the Wii U itself, but rather the investing in a lot of new businesses, including mobile and movie development, which will help them in the long run.
>Yfw you realize that the Pikmin shorts are BETTER than the Ratchet and Clank movie.
>>338928461
Didn't X/Y sell better than ORAS?
ORAS is also a piece of shit
>>338936532
Why are you such an autistic faggot?
This rarely happens with Nintendo games. Nintendo pride themselves on their "Evergreen" concept, which is that their games are always worth a high price even years after release and that they make games that people want to keep. Star Fox being sold used as much as it is will mean Nintendo will have to lower its price new.
This board is such shit. You guys are so incapable of being honest. I have more Wii U games than you do, I'm sure, and yet I'm not spouting baseless smokescreens against its criticism.
>>338937289
>pointless
Of course, Nintendo don't exhibit there anymore.
>>338927704
>Returned
>All of them are sealed
>>338937749
Well yeah. The only ones actually delivering anything.
All the good Sony games show up at TGS.
E3 is absolutely pointless now.
>>338936358
I'm curious how much time and money went into just making his stupid control scheme work anyway? They could have just focused on making a better game during the time wasted on the controls which would have made the fans happy at least. Still might not have sold as well as they wanted but it would have been better then what they got.
>>338935756
You just proved my point. You know that, right?
>Game gets returned month after release
This isn't news. Water is wet, grass is generally considered green, there's a large amount of people who return a game a few weeks after buying it because that's when it's worth the most.
i hear mixed things, but regardless i want to play through it at least once or twice. but im not spending $50 on such a game. maybe all these returned copies will translate into a $20 or so aftermarket price, which really is what it should sell for.
i dont get why the $60 or sometimes $50 pricetag for new video games is so set in stone. it should vary more based on content
>>338937835
>Well yeah. The only ones actually delivering anything.
Can't wait for Mario 137!
>>338937910
The worst FF game was the fourth best selling of all time.
>>338938072
But surely yet another Uncharted will tickle your fancy.
You fucking homo
>>338937872
It's really stupid, considering the reason Shiggy was put on it to begin with was specifically to make a game that would show how great the Gamepad is so they could hopefully sell more Wii Us.
Yet, the game comes out in the last year of the Wii Us life and the controls are cumbersome. I'm going to master them, because I think it'll be fun once I do, but they can't be used as a selling point the way the game is. I believe Miyamoto failed to meet the objective.
>>338928136
Epic
I refuse to support nintendo as much as i can, the most i would do is buy a nx to pirate newer games.
their policies and censorship is retarded
>>338938198
Uncharted does what it says on the tin. Four in nine years isn't excessive. How many Marios, Metroids and Zeldas have been released in that time? How many of them had the level of asset development each Uncharted game did?
>>338938351
How much of a hypocrite bastard do you have to be to selectively boycott Nintendo out of all the companies only?
>>338927549
I wonder how they'll blame Krystal for this.
>>338938484
Aren't they the only company still pushing region locks?
>>338938430
>actually defending uncharted
>>338938072
>worst FF game
Subjective. And again, still not pulling.
Additionally, is that counting XIII-2 and XIII-3? What do those look like?
>>338938484
That doesn't really make sense tho
>>338931558
I have a sealed copy because I found it new online for £22. I read the reviews but I loved the Snes game. Plus £22 is nothing. I'm not poor.
Buying a wiiu 3 weeks ago was a great decision. With the NX announced I have a wiiu with 10 games all for under £300
>>338938227
Splatoon was a better example of how useful the gamepad could be. Gyro controls are super useful in that game, and are a step towards making shooters work on console.
>>338930610
Hey this anime short is pretty cool
>>338935756
>10 Years of Lightning
The reason it sold so well is because it's all we had for 2 generations
>>338938624
It's a good third person action game. Have you even played any of them?
>>338938665
It is easily the worst received mainline FF ever released since the PS1 era.
And no, counting the sequels it pushes it up to 20 mil.
>>338938858
And all of the top three have been out for longer and have since received PC releases. What's the problem?
>>338937783
Do you even have eyes? They're just in some protective plastic bags cause Japan cares about its shit
>>338938553
Also the only company that doesnt charge for online.
Also the only company that doesnt charge 70€ per game.
Also the only company that allows legacy controllers without fucking with everything.
Also the only company that supports backwards compability without charging you out the ass.
Also the only company that still offers couch coop games.
Also the only company that doesnt replace their current gen hardware two years into its lifecycle.
And its the only company that didnt fall victim to the mountain dew.
>>338938668
No it does. Everybody else is much worse so I dont get where those queers come from that ONLY do it against Nintendo as if they were Hitler.
>>338938430
all mario games share the name "mario" and likewise for zelda, yet the philosophy at nintendo is to always try to innovate and introduce new things or concepts. doesnt have to be groundbreaking, but just adding new gameplay elements or enemy types, control schema, etc. you can make jokes about how many 'new super mario bros' games there are, but they never feel repetitive and do new things.
uncharted meanwhile hasnt changed at all. its still just linear, forced tombraider copied wallclimbing shit, poor and generic 3rd person shooter gameplay, and cutscenes that take up most of the budget and production effort
>>338938484
Season passes
Charging $40 for a battery for the wii u pad, intentionally putting in a small capacity battery in a big housing
1 screen for the 2DS
Cheap screens, parts all around, self scratching screens on the 3DS
Price retention on old games
Charging extra for HD space between Wii U models (people were defending it saying it was SSD lol)
Having awful online
Creating games like Animal Crossing and Apps like Miitomo, and generqlly making mobile quality games, despite a big front on /v/ opposing mobile gaming
Microtransactions ala the badge arcade
But....
It is ok when Nintendo does it.
>>338938897
>ACTUALLY defending Uncharted
>>338927549
JUST
>>338928235
>>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)
>hating on double dash
End your life.
>>338939076
Truly ebin shitpost.
Apparently its ONLY bad when Nintendo does it.
>>338939076
You pretty much have to buy more space for a PS4 too. Explain Sony not allowing people to use externals.
>>338938198
So people finished Star Fox and returned it. This is newsworthy. This makes Star Fox unlike every other game in existence now where teenagers and children get their parent to buy them a game and then return it for the next AAA flavor of the month. Wait . . .
I'm not saying Star Fox is perfect. It's obvious brevity could have been fixed with more levels, more paths, and online multiplayer. I enjoyed it for what it was and wish I was given more, but if the game is being returned then I'm struggling to see how this sets it apart from anything else these days.
>>338938985
>Everybody else is much worse
not really, Nintendo censors a lot of their games, they do region locking and their first party software has dropped very drastically in terms of quality. I'm an idort btw, I just dont feel the need to sugar coat Nintendos current situation however nor do I over exaggerate their short comings.
>>338938985
>Also the only company that doesnt charge 70€ per game.
Animal Crossing is a mobile-tier game and goes for $40 when new.
>Also the only company that supports backwards compability without charging you out the ass.
Because their iterative hardware cycles since the Wii have been underpowered as fuck, meaning they sell the hardware at a net profit.
>Also the only company that still offers couch coop games.
simply a lie.
>Also the only company that doesnt replace their current gen hardware two years into its lifecycle.
>replace
A lie.
>And its the only company that didnt fall victim to the mountain dew.
Why do you care so much about marketing campaigns?
>>338939070
>try to innovate
Yeah sorry, new powerups are paradigm-shifting innovation at work.
In actuality, Mario has been more or less the same since the first 3d one, likewise with Zelda. There's nothing innovative about either of these franchises anymore.
>>338938985
>online
its online is shit though. people shittalk xbox live but it has been and is still the best overall online gaming platform in the console market. making something costs money surprisingly
>doesnt charge 70 per game
in japan its closer to that amount, but whereas a lot of companies will do 60 and gradually drop, nintendo still expects the full 50 for decade old games
>implying mountain dew isnt delicious
>>338939278
>not really
yes really.
>>338939230
The PS4 ships with a 500gb HDD as standard.
>>338939081
Again, what's fundamentally wrong with the game?
>>338939301
>its good because you pay for it
every time
>>338939373
>replying to shitposters
are you a moron or a falseflagger
>>338939296
>actually defending uncharted and expecting people to respond to your garbage wall of text
>>338939296
See, this is why I said " not necessarily groundbreaking". People like you hear terms like innovative and only think of things that must change the entire landscape of video games. it doesnt have to be that drastic or big deal of a thing.
the mario games and zelda games are always doing something new in their respective series. not necessarily new to the entire video game industry, but they are progressing and changing; evolving.
games like call of duty and uncharted and assassins creed, they dont evolve at all. its the same shit
>>338939423
It is a fundamentally superior online service to that of Nintendo, and I don't even own a One. Servers are better, download speeds are better, uptime is better, range and choice of games is better, online options within games are better (remember Splatoon at launch? that was an unfinished game).
>>338939373
500 GBs that can be used up pretty quickly due to that resource hogging application days. Still, explain Sony not allowing externals.
>>338928235
wind waker was the worst at the time but skyward sword is way worse
Star Fox belongs in the grave.
This franchise is only remarkable because of technology in the snes game and furries in the others regretably.
Good riddance. Worst nintendo IP.
>>338930345
>Xenoblade
But what if they're NOT a pedophile?
>>338939543
*data
>>338939514
So Uncharted is totally derivative, despite having comparable new in-game functionality... But Mario innovates significantly each time because Mario has a different suit?
lol.
>games like call of duty and uncharted and assassins creed, they dont evolve at all. its the same shit
CoD perhaps, but mainline AC titles create a fundamentally different open world with each title. The development work that goes into crafting the cities alone is more than is spent on probably all of a mainline Mario or Zelda release.
looks like i can get a good price very soon for the new star fox.
I don't care it didn't sell well. Space shooters are a arcade antiquated concept. there's a billion in existence, in many forms. It's not a seller concept anymore.
>>338939524
>Servers are better
>uptime is better, range and choice of games is better
Its all the same p2p garbage only that MS charges for it.
The majority of games dont even use dedicated servers.
>Game is split into 3 pieces
>Sold for double the price of a normal game
>Even more DLC coming out making it over $100
>True ending is DLC forcibly
>Content locked behind Amiibos
>fans gobble this up anyways
>some will dwfend these atrocious practices
>but it's ok when nintendo does it
Fire Emblem Fates, the game where you choose your fate on the store shelf :^)
>>338939678
Right? I bet the game will be going for under $20. Can't believe my friend was hounding me to pick up the game on release.
>>338939423
That's how the world works, son.
Quality is not free.
I urge you to try buying the cheaper store-brand toilet paper,cola,potato chips, etc and then try to convince me they are equal or better than their more expensive counterparts.
before you mistake the line of logic i am presenting, i am not stating that that higher price --> higher quality, But rather higher quality tends to imply higher price
Star Fox was always shit. Half of the nintenbabbies ITT have probably never even played X Wing vs. TIE fighter, or Freelancer.
>>338939730
Glad I pirated this shit.
It was clearly a jewish moneygrab scam by Nintendo
>>338928235
That's some real shit taste, anon.
>WW worse than SS
>Metroid Prime 2 worse than Other M
>Double Dash worse than MK Wii
>>338927549
It's a fine game, but the lack of content explains this. Throw in a GOOD multiplayer mode and a challenging difficulty and then people would keep their copies.
>>338933058
>Sunshine is bad
I don't get this meme
Are we being raided by Neogaf again?
Gotta shit on the competition to make people buy the PS4 NEO© after all
>>338939640
>but mainline AC titles create a fundamentally different open world with each title. The development work that goes into crafting the cities alone is more than is spent on probably all of a mainline Mario or Zelda release.
This is pure fucking bullshit.
Asscreed recycles fucking everything from game to game, animations assets, the ship model that Black Flag has as the Jackdaw has is in ACII. Even Watch Dogs has some clear AssCreed running animation recycling going on.
Don't care about Nintendo since I skipped the Wii U but AssCreed having effort behind them is a lie.
>>338939730
How is this different from Asura's Wrath and it's "buy the ending" DLC?
>>338939793
it doesn't have online so your friend nagging you was pretty pointless.
>>338939814
No the way the world works is that you get charged for peer to peer connections and retards like you actually defend it.
Microsoft are true evil masterminds.
The Wii U is hacked, what do you expect? I sold all my physical discs too
>>338939890
Clearly unfinished, homo Fludd garbage, generally fruity.
Not sure why you're all that surprised though, the reception for the game wasnt amazing back then either.
Pretty much the most "meh" people were towards any big Mario game.
There's obviously still people who like it, but most didnt.
>>338939897
>muh neofag boogieman
A shit game deserves to be called shit toddler
>>338938985
>Also the only company that doesnt charge for online
That's because it's stuck in 1999.
>allows legacy controllers
So? With other companies the controllers only have minor differences. Nintendo goes from controller to waggle stick to tablet.
>Also the only company that doesnt replace their current gen hardware two years into its lifecycle.
>GBA SP
>DSi
>DS Lite
>New 3DS
>>338939973
>Sony and Nintendo camps fighting each other when they should really be teaming up to fight Microsoft, who created the modern DLC model.
>>338940084
#4theplayers
>>338939640
>>338939901
Here I even have a webm of the jackdaw in ACII
>>338927549
Might as well trade it back in after you beat it. Get the highest price for it now rather than later.
There's almost nothing to do on the fucking thing after a couple of hours.
>>338939927
get shrekd
>>338927549
I also saw tons of used copies of Splatoon shortly after launch. And Bloodborne. How is this different?
Reminder that this is the highest rated game in the entire starfox series
>All these incoming flamewar bans ITT
Feels good.
>>338940105
Obviously everything new is better.
Like charging people for online when it was free in the past.
And you go and try to use your old arcade sticks on the PS4 or Xbox One.
Either they dont work period or they made it so convoluted that no tournament ever allows them.
So thats 200$ extra just because they put DRM on USB ports.
Your standard PS3 and 360 pads dont work either.
Again DRM ON USB
>>338939897
>b-b-but Sony
Classic Nintendork deflection.
>>338940249
Reminder that Paper Mario Sticker Star has a higher Metascore than Assault and Zero.
>>338940126
Adorable
You probably think this game is perfect and everyone who hates it comes from that site
>>338940359
Enjoy you ban.
>>338940249
fucking metacritic
>>338939831
Way to compare a game to two games that aren't even in the same genre.
>>338940276
A hugbox /v/ is just as bad
>>338927549
>people will defend miyamoto on this
not even the most brainwashed nintendo fanboy can do that.
But still i can see a lot of people defending him
>>338940435
Not really, no.
Stop shitposting you queer.
>>338940105
>That's because it's stuck in 1999.
So it's better to charge for online because it's the current thing to do?
>>338940435BURN IT ALL
>>338940435
there's a difference to saying you're wrong and being a flagrant faggot.
>>338939831
fuck let's not even leave Nintendo. Sin and Punishment and it's sequel Star Successor are still criminally underrated rail shooters.
>>338940435
Just admit you wanna shitpost without consequence.
>>338940395
#buyuncharted
>>338937441
Original Pokemon games have always sold better than third versions and remakes.
>>338928461
>ORAS outsold HGSS
Don't fucking remind me.
@338940578
You're not getting another (You) from me fanboy
>>338938430
>Uncharted does what it says on the tin. Four in nine years isn't excessive. How many Marios, Metroids and Zeldas have been released in that time?
Mario: 3 (5 if you count NSMB)
Metroid: 2
Zelda: 2
such rehash
reminder that this abortion of a thread is allowed but a thread that discourages platform wars is not
>>338930826
>You get used to it after a while.
>after a while
Isn't that the sign of bad controls? Usually good controls mean it's intuitive and people can get used to them very fast. If you need "a while" to get used then it's bad.
>>338940603
Didn't HeartGold/SoulSilver make them an insane amount of dosh?The pokewalker was convenient, due to me being in college at the time.
>>338936637
That's not a source, retard.
NO! This can't be happening again.
>>338940832
Every Pokemon game makes dosh
>>338940796
>a thread about a video game is allowed on /v/
>console war bullshit is already against the rules
sometimes the mods are awake, faggot.
>>338940249
>the one star fox that tosses out the railshooter garbage and stupid shit that 64fags love and consider esential to star fox becomes the best one in the series
its a sign, it must be.
>>338939373
>Again, what's fundamentally wrong with the game?
i played one of them and was so bored out of my mind i couldn't bring myself to finish it. it's essentially on rails except for the chest-high-wall shooting sections. there are far, FAR better third person shooters out there if that's the kind of gameplay you want.
>>338940906
This would've been a lot funnier if he took them all and then go brag about how fast and well the Wii U is selling.
>>338939730
Originally the game was going to be just one, and the decision would be in-game much like Sacred Stones but then they realized they could milk retarded FE fans by splitting the game in 3 and selling them separately. Not to mention the fuckload of DLC.
3DS hacking couldn't have arrived at a better time.
>>338930610
>There are plenty of games Nintendo didn't market but Star Fox isn't one of them.
>TV spot on kids channels
>Online ads
Wow such promotion
>>338938975
there was less time between final fantasy 7 and 10 than there was between 13 and now. In that 5 year span you had 4 FF games to choose from. In the 5 year span since 13 you have.... 13
Why's it always white people that start console war shit?
>>338940692
>Mario: 7
>Metroid: 3
>Zelda: 5
ftfy
>>338941453
we have time to think about this stuff when we're not dodging bullets from cops
>>338939640
>create a different world with each title
In name and building color alone. Play brotherhood then revelations. Rome and Constantinople play out pretty much the same, though they ought to be different.
>dev work
copying and pasting buildings and lamp posts, versus academic level design of introducing a concept, practice, application, and test of mastery, for every level?
>jus different suit!
I can tell you are not well educated on the topics you discuss.
You are having a gut reaction to the mere number of titles with mario in them and not thinking much past that.
Also,
>try to have serious intellectual discussion of topic like adults
>autist chimes in with greentext, reaction images and memes
>such posts are clearly, undeniably the source of cancer and negativity in /v/, 4chan, and the internet as a whole
>tell the person to stop in their own language of insult
>YOU ARE BANNED, QUALITY OF POSTS IS IMPORTANT IN THIS SHITHOLE
Is the message I am missing is that intellectual, mature, adult discussion with facts, logic, reasoning ,rationale, etc a discouraged action on this board? That we OUGHT to be idiots who post inane jokes and insults that are intellectually inferior to a primary school student?
Reddit isnt sounding so bad right about now
>Expecting modern Nintendo to release quality products on their no third party support dying system
The game itself is great, but since Nintendo had to go full retard with their business decisions, nobody wants to support them anymore.
>>338938897
Now that's true.
At any rate, it's still not strong.
>>338928136
Twilight Princess was good you fucker. Not as good as OoT or MM in the eyes of most people, but still good.
>>338939901
Of course they recycle the animation assets you idiot. You want them to create a new mantling animation when the original is mocapped?
>>338940105
>That's because it's stuck in 1999.
Are you retarded?
>>338928235
I meant to link this >>338942438 to you, not the other one
I'm sorry but the game simply wasn't that good.
DOOM-16 is how you revive an old IP, Zero felt like a game 15 years too late.
>>338927549
It's really sad to see that Nintendicksuckers still blame everyone else BUT Nintendo for fucking shit up.
It's always someone else's fault, never Neoshitendo's. You rabid fandrones are disgusting because you enabled good old Nintendo to become that despicable trash-tier company they are today who does not give a fuck.
>>338941019
Simply standing still in cover in Uncharted will get you killed on anything but easy, the cover is usually destructible in 4 and the enemies aggressively flank you on harder difficulties, employ grenades to flush you out etc.
>>338941449
Development times have increased. Deal with it.
>>338941907
Those aren't mainline titles. They still created more assets for Revelations and Brotherhood than entire mainline Mario titles do in any event.
> versus academic level design of introducing a concept, practice, application, and test of mastery, for every level?
Yeah, other studios don't employ QA.
Nintendo games are ridiculously easy if you don't bother collecting all their version of collectibles, don't even try to pretend there's some deeply nuanced way to play the main game.
>jus different suit!
It is literally a different powerup and it's presented as fundamental innovation by you.
>Is the message I am missing is that intellectual, mature, adult discussion with facts, logic, reasoning ,rationale, etc a discouraged action on this board? That we OUGHT to be idiots who post inane jokes and insults that are intellectually inferior to a primary school student?
Then play games for adults rather than children.
>>338928024
Until everyone figures out S&M is more bare-bones than XY and then Pokemon drops off the radar.
I'd compare it to Metroid or Star Fox, but that's an unfair comparisson. It's more like Animal Crossing where it just got way too big for its britches and now nobody wants anything to do with the series.
>>338941882
>White guy admits most of the crimes in the US are committed by whites
>>338927549
>There's a significant portion of the gaming community who return games once they've experienced everything it has to offer
>If it's a shorter game, this will happen relatively quickly
FUCKING W O W
how is this news?
>>338941851
>counting handheld games for nintendo
>but not for uncharted
>>338941851
If you want to be like that then yeah technically Uncharted has also seen 5
>>338942856
>most of the population is white, at least 70+%
it'd be a concern if most of the crime WASN'T committed by whites. It's like this mass shooting shit, people keep going "why's it always a white dude?", it's literally just that there are more white people. The media just likes to spin it
>>338942856
Black people commit rape and assault at 7 times the white rate.
>>338942806
>Simply standing still in cover in Uncharted will get you killed on anything but easy, the cover is usually destructible in 4 and the enemies aggressively flank you on harder difficulties, employ grenades to flush you out etc.
that has absolutely nothing to do with anything i said. it's still a mediocre TPS with shitty on rails "cinematic experience" sections in between
>>338943104
>He actually belives that
>>338942942
7. 2 vita games and a mobile game
>>338943280
2 vita games? What?
>>338930826
I love Splatoon but SF0's controls are terrible
>>338943178
>belives
Black person detected
And why wouldn't I?
I'm not even American, I'm European and black people commit a massively disproportionate amount of crime in my city. They do it everywhere. Even in East Asia.
>>338943161
>on rails
As compared to?
It's linear as opposed to open world, in the broad sense, but it's still fairly open compared to other linear TPS games. See the later levels of 4 on Libertalia for example.
>>338942856
Blacks account for about 50% of homicides in the US despite being only 13% of the population.
>>338943371
>European
Opinion discarded
>>338928235
>He forgot about the wii
>>338942127
if the game is great why are people returning it? the wii u only has a few good games and star fox isnt one of them
>>338943340
thats what wikipedia said at least. i dont keep up with shit game series'
>>338927549
Be happy that you even got a game. It could be worse anon, you could be a metroid fan...
>>338928235
>Worst Zelda
>Thinking either TP or WW is worse than SS
Yeah fuck you too anon
>>338927549
>People returning something that is bad
I don't see the issue.
>>338927549
No wonder why.
Why would someone play as some furry squirell in the cartoony graphic made for kids.
>>338943371
>As compared to?
it's been awhile, i only played one of the PS3 ones back when it was new. there was a bunch of press button to auto-jump/auto-climb to the next perfectly straight line path bullshit. the only thing you could actually fail at was the shooting.
>trading in a 2 hour long game a month after it's been out
All normalfags sell their games not long after getting them. The shelves are full of pre owned AAA titles like a week after they release
>>338940529
What are you going on about? Star Successor is quite possibly the hardest shilled game of 7th gen and actually received universal praise from critics.
Unless you are mixing up underrated and under appreciated
>>338939730
>Excepting each game has nearly 30 chapters
>The average length of a fire emblem is 25 chapters
>There was absolutely no evolution between FE6 and 7 if not for the introduction of assassins and the promotion of bandits, FE8 just added the branching promotions and sadly introduced grinding
>Nohr and Hoshido are played completely differently, one allowing grind, the other doesn't, making a game genuinely hard instead of relying on artificial difficulty settings (enemies with more HP, dealing more damage and that's all)
I can acknowledge that their DLC policy with the maps (and I'm not talking about revelation which is a 3rd game in itself) costing 3-4€ each is pretty retarded. But the Amiibos never give you anything valuable in the Nintendo games excepting for maybe Splatoon. We can also argue about how NoA is retarded with the translations.
But the complaint that the 3 fire emblem could have been a single game is like complaining that Xenosaga had 3 games instead of one. That's retarded and spouted by people who don't play the fire emblem. FE8 had only 3 different chapters depending on if you chose Ephraim or Eirika and it was nonetheless one of the shortest entries of the series. Paying 20 € on the eshop for each additional game isn't that crazy.
I pirated it and still felt ripped off. All range mode is ass for bossfights if they aren't dogfights but everything is fucking all range mode
Having everything on the right stick is bullshit as well, there are so many buttons how about using that shit
>>338941183
SACRED STONE HAD 3 DIFFERENT CHAPTERS DEPENDING ON YOUR STARTING CHOICE AND THEY PLAYED EXACTLY THE SAME.
How could it be clearer than that?
>>338928013
No wonder so much of the game focused on that, which coincidentally was the weaker portions of the game, as it kept forcing you to go on foot in so many parts.
>>338930834
>adding a stamina bar
>people actually want to move slower
Who the fuck are these people
>>338927549
It honestly didn't look very good to me. I wonder who's fault that is. Because I feel like platinum could definitely just update the formula that starfox assault had, especially with titles like vanquish under their belt. Was Nintendo holding them back or did they just fuck up and make a boring game?
>>338938227
The problem isn't the gyro, it's having to pay attention to 2 screens while sitting in front of your tv with the gamepad in your lap
It works on the handhelds because the screens are so close to eachother, it's a pain on the console because you either hold your gamepad straight in front of you to see both screens, or you have to snap your head back and forth because you need to pay attention to both screens in sfz
Splatoon did it a million times better
>>338927770
>Overrated
That would imply the series was ever good to be with! People like it because it's nostalgic + furries
>>338927770
>It should have never become a key Nintendo franchise.
It never was. It was basically just a series that very few people actually know or care about unless you're just a hardcore Nintendo fan. And even then, the catalogue is so inconsistent that the only game that people universally like without debate is 64(I personally liked the direction that assault was taking but the gameplay wasn't polished enough). The only key franchises that Nintendo has are Mario and Zelda.
>>338939296
Nigga I'm not gonna defend Nintendo for milking their IPs but if you're thinking OoT, WW and SS are basically the same game you're a fucking retard
Same with the 3D marios, or are you gonna argue 64, Sunshine and Galaxy are the same shit.
If they would be you wouldn't have such a huge split in the community
Try playing the games some time instead of parroting shit you've heard online my man
>>338946409
WW is literally OoT in water
>>338927549
>The first game was shit
>BUT THE SECOND ONE WAS GONNA BE SO GOOD GUYS
Fuck off.
>>338928039
Have you never been to Cex or at least your typical game store, retard? They line them out like that so people can see the cover art, and if it's a popular or newly released game they'll have a shelf to themselves provided there's enough copies. What makes this really bad/funny though is that this is the UK, barely anyone has a WiiU here and not that many people are gonna buy StarFox, so the return rate must be pretty fucking high for there to be that many on the shelf at this point.
>>338928235
Star Fox has always been bad barring SF64, despite what people will say
Skyward Sword is worse than WW/TP
The worst metroid is still Other M, no matter how hard you try to say otherwise
Any Mario Party with individual dice rolls is objectively better than any of the Mario Parties with the cars/shared dice rolls
Super Circuit is the worst Mario Kart due to shit controls. Having 40 race tracks doesn't save you here.
t. A disgruntled Custom Robo and Advance Wars fan who hasn't a new game in either in over a decade.
>>338931313
>Bayonetta
>good
Only for the tits and ass, but nothing else lmao.
>>338931313
Bayonetta 2 finally cracked a million units.
I feel confident Nintendo is going to money hat a sequel.
>>338946480
>OoT, most of the game is in the dungeons, the overworld is empty and the exploration is rewarded but not that much.
>WW most of the game is in the overworld, sailing to find new island, not knowing what you're going to find and the Triforce hunt makes the exploration mandatory and rewarding.
They are different. Only the story progression with the dungeons being milestones is shared by the two games.
>>338932884
Nintendo will never die. If things get really bad all they have to do is release the next Pokemon on smartphones
I'll keep my Zero, but I'm mad Gamestop won't even take Starfox guard for even $5
I don't want this shitty thing.
star fox 64 is one of my all time favorite games.
how does zero compare? its just that the controls are fucked right? thats the only problem?
>>338946868
Bayo 2 had cool gameplay, but its story was completely boring and unecessary. One had the much better plot.
>>338947047
Controls are fucked and mandatory for the final boss, You're forced to look at the gamepad for cockpit mode in dogfighting, and the Gyrowing is an abomination and ruined zoness
>>338946480
Atleast pick TP next time the games are a lot closer to eachother
>>338947302
yes because TP is about collecting the red, blue and green gemstones to get the master sword and then go awaken the sages to defeat Ganondorf
>>338947047
You remember how Starfox 64 had three routes of quality rail shooting action? Well this has one route, and most of the time is spent in all range mode.
>mfw there will never be another star fox game ever again
>>338947495
This.
Missions arent missions, and the path ultimately ends up the same.
>people return games they don't like
WOOOOOOW, REALLY?! I returned Pokken a few weeks ago, where's my article
>>338927549
Miyamoto ruins another series with his shitty ideas
>>338946868
>Breaking 1 million after 2 years
I like Bayo 2 but that's pathetic. Bayo 1 sold like shit too which is why no company wanted to fund a sequel until Nintendo stepped in. Now I doubt even Nintendo will want to fund a sequel when they have IPs that sell over 10 times as many copies.
>>338947926
Bayo 1 also hit the bargain bin pretty fast. Bayo 2 still costs full price
>>338927549
My local store had the same shit going on for Bloodborne, the PS4 audience were massive casuals they started returning their copies of Bloodborne till the store almost replenished his full stack
>>338946913
>Triforce hunt makes the exploration mandatory and rewarding.
Mandatory exploration isn't rewarding, it is a chore. Especially if you had already explored the islands at your own pace. And sailing basically boils down to; sail to map quadrant, either immediately spot island/archipelago and make a beeline for it, or travel a little further in. It's extremely boring because the sea is so static and being unable to do anything without putting away your sail is retarded.
>>338937597
I hope you get so mad your head implodes and you die. Because it's clear your brain is totally useless to our society.
Around the world there is an embarassingly big number of used copies of games like Mario 3D World or Pokemon games. And yet both are still at full price new.
You are stupid, very stupid, if you bring bullshit like "pride" in a context like this. And yes, Nintendo already made money with those copies people are selling.
So please, PLEASE, learn to think twice before shitposting or else erase yourself from existance.
And they'll still charge you New price for a used game because it's nintendo despite how flooded and shit
Funny how games I find literally unplayable get a pass but this one which is actually playable and good gets so much flak.
>>338947926
>Pathetic
Most games don't break the million mark ever and still live
>>338948074
BB is a good game, though.
You're better off buying Star Fucks 64 3D, for it had WAAAY better gyro controls.
SFZ got really fun for a while when I started going for all the medals. Most of those "Mission Accomplished" medals are very challenging and satisfying to do, and some of actually completely change your strategy for beating the level.
For example, the Corneria II Mission Accomplished goal involves destroying all of the Gigarilla's weapons on its hands/chest before deactivating it. It makes the Gigarilla boss battle into an actual boss battle where you have to face it head on instead of just running between its legs and shooting it in the back to defeat it in a few seconds.
Too bad it still doesn't last long enough even with all that, getting 100% only took me about 12 hours. I'm not really interested in doing the Arcade mode and going for individual high scores on each mission route. Actually I'm getting more replayability mileage out of Star Fox Guard which is amazingly fun.
>>338938985
>couch coop
only smash and mario 3d world are couch coop
>>338948253
Maybe because it's so bland and uninspired. They should've released Star Fox 2 and called it a day.
>>338948468
> for it had WAAAY better gyro controls
Don't say this. 64 makes no sense with it's motion controls. It's unplayable and even had a special lower difficulty for it.
You are stupid if you can't see the difference between 64's motion controls and Zero's.
>>338948591
You say this as if Zero is the only game that feels like that. There are games being released every day that suffer from much more than that and don't get to the headlines.
Star Fox never even sold over a million copies and treat Zero as a complete and utter dissaster of the franchise
>>338948468
>Star Fucks 64 3D, for it had WAAAY better gyro controls.
you can't seriously believe this... the gyro in SF64 3D steers your whole ship around, not just the reticle like SFZ's gyro. the gyro in SF643D is useless because it literally only replaces the analog stick's function. In SFZ the gyro actually makes it so that aiming and steering are separate functions, which changes the gameplay far more than what 64 3D did.
>>338948532
And Donkey Kong
And NSMBU
And Yoshis Wooly cunt
Bayonetta2 has a short but neat coop mode too.
>>338949230
>Bayonetta2 has a short but neat coop mode too.
Isn't that online co-op?
>>338949376
Right. Its W101 that has the offline coop missions.
>>338948664
I do see the difference. Zero wants you to switch between two screens to shoot, which is stupid. The reticle on the TV was made inaccurate so you HAVE to use the gamepad.
>>338948972
They aren't perfect, but fuck the people who think Zero's are perfect. At least accurate aiming is tied to the main screen.
>release shit game
>people return shit game
>people mad cuz they want more shit games shoved out
>Trusting Platinum with your series
Can this literal meme die?
>>338949230
Hyrule Warriors has pretty good coop too.
And also I'd consider Star Fox Guard as coop because people who are watching the TV screen can help the person playing... but then again I dunno, that seems like it'd make the game too easy. It just the right difficulty curve when playing it alone. I really like this game a lot and wish it was talked about more on here.
>>338949606
>The reticle on the TV was made inaccurate so you HAVE to use the gamepad.
Then look at the fucking gamepad and stop complaining. It's still much better than the shitty 3DS motion controls.
One was actually designed for it.
You don't even have to use the gyro or the gamepad screen in the on-rails levels, and the game would be unplayable without them outside of them
>>338949801
You don't even really have to use the 1st person view except in boss battles. It's not hard at all to line up your shots using the reticle on the 3rd person screen and figuring out where your shot will land based on how far away the target is. And besides you should be doing lock-on shots most of the time in the non-boss battle sections anyway.
>>338942442
So don't pretend those games have a lot of effort put into them, retard. AssCreed Syndicate, Unity, Black Flag and Rogue all reuse buildings from AssCreed III. Look how amazing they are at rearranging shit!
AssCreed II had tons of original assets compared to the first game. I don't even recall seeing similar buildings in both games, so this proves that Ubisoft is phoning it in in the last 6~ years
>>338950101
Well yeah, if you consider Star Wolf a boss, then pretty much. I still found myself using the gamepad screen during most all-range mode sections even though I didn't need it.
But seriously, fuck saying that motion controls are a problem. People even manage to complain about the walker and landmaster controls.
Only really shitty thing about Zero is the gyrowing inclusion, and even then it's a one time thing.
>tfw Sonic has been doing better than fucking Star Fox in terms of games.
Fucking Hell, this is ridiculous.
>>338950678
Now now, let's not go full retard
>Starfox fans doing worse then mega man fans
>>338950424
Have you tried using the minus button to put the 1st person view on the TV screen when doing the all-range sections? I found this made the all-range and boss battle parts way more enjoyable. With the 3rd person view on the gamepad screen, it makes the gamepad kind of work like a "map screen" that you only have to glance at once in a while to see around you, while you focus on aiming on the TV screen with much more visibility and less clutter.
>>338950897
Tried to but found it much easier to look at the gamepad instead. Really, I just never had a problem with the controls, even the first time I played Corneria.
Why does Zero feel like a chore to play even when you don't mind the controls? I stopped playing it months ago because it was so bland and boring.Could it be because it's just a financially safe rehash?
The only lesson Nintendo will take away from this is that no one likes Star Fox anymore.
Instead of learning from the mistakes made with Zero and developing and releasing a better sequel, (one that should at least rival SF64) they'll shelve the franchise permanently and continue to shove Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon down everyone's throats.
>>338951228
>months
It's so hard to completely boycott Nintendo when I still get games like this. Also, I never cared for Star Fox or Metroid.
>>338951228
how can you possibly think Star Fox Zero is "safe" after all the backlash it's been getting? "safe" would've mean copying Star Fox 64's gameplay. just because they copied SF64's story has nothing to do with how much of a risk they took on the game by changing up its gameplay.
>>338951271
But Mario and Zelda games are still usually good. Mario 3D world became my favorite Mario game by far.
>>338951271
>Star Fox never sold and had a vocal minority that was born with the N64 asking for a new one, like me
>Everyone and their mother buys Mario. Zelda and Pokemon but it's totally Nintendo just forcing us to buy it
>>338951271
I honestly don't believe any of this rhetoric about Nintendo "shelving their franchises permanently". They are one of the more faithful companies when it comes to reviving old and forgotten franchises. It may take a while, decades even, but they'll always eventually pick up an old franchise that everyone thought was dead and attempt to continue it in some way.
>>338951695
The only exceptions to this are when the original creator of the franchise declares the story "over" and specifically states that no more games will be made, like with the Mother series.
>>338951359
Oh, right. I forgot it was late April when it came out.
>>338951480
Well, besides the forced gimmicks, it really is "financially safe" in terms of presentation and design.
It's a five hour game at best with forced gamepad gimmick controls that looks worse than early gen 7 titles and released at $60 with no multiplayer or replay value.
You're surprised people are returning this piece of shit?
I bought it digitally, I cant return it
last time I ever fucking do that
>>338927549
Who cares? Their money is already Nintendo's money. And they will spend it onDRUGS
>>338941453
Because they feel the need to complain about shit constantly.
The women are crazy and calling for genocide of their own race, they do the most passive aggressive shit in the work place, not to mention they're the first ones to steal someone else's work and credit themselves.
I feel bad for them sometimes, ya know?
>>338927549
>if this keeps up soon we'll be stuck on Star Fox Limb0 again
and we'll have to deal with furfags alienating the interest of Star Fox with their fan shit again
>first Legend of Krystal
>then Star Fox Horizon
>now Fox in Space
>soon Smash 5 fanart
can't fucking wait
Why did this turn into a race war thread?
>>338940529
>Star Fox is always shit!
>waah why didn't people more copies of S'nP!
every time
>>338931313
>implying I didnt buy all 3 day 1
This game is bad.
>>338927549
Well if it wasn't a shit game people wouldn't be returning it.
>>338949796
I preordered the special edition but the retailer never got the game so I didnt get to play it.
So can I ask an honest question, and please give me an honestly answer?is this game actually bad?
>>338940249
>>338941014
pathetic samefag, no it isn't.
not!Starfox's user score is not even any better than Zero's reviewer score to ASSault
>i-it's 5 points higher, guys! Zero's good
>>338954730
yes.
No memes, no shitposting, it's bad.
>>338931435
do you regret it? i know i do
>>338927549
Are you stupid, or do you genuinely not know how the game industry works? Returned games are inconsequential in the long run, no matter how many of them are returned. If the game was purchased, it doesn't matter if the buyer keeps it, returns it, or ritually sacrifices it to appease the dark gods, Nintendo already got their money.
The only way it affects Nintendo's bottom line is long term profits where new people continually buy used games instead of purchasing new games. If that many used copies are on the shelves, then no one else is buying it, used or not. The problem is everyone who wanted to play it has gotten everything they wanted out of it. Nintendo most if not all the money they'd ever make off of it already, it wouldn't matter how many used copies were still on those shelves.
>>338954869
Thanks. I've been getting a lot of mixed opinions from everyone. I played the first level and liked it, but I don't want to take a chance.
>>338948815
any Star Fox that wasn't on DS, 3DS or WiiU sold over a million even 2
even 643D is nearing a million , now mostly gaining traction due to people distaste on another mediocre Star Fox
The whole gyro aiming focus kinda prevents local co-op from happening. During on rail sections it might be hard to implement local co-op but for all range missions it could be fun, with each player having its own arwing that is.
>>338927549
>Star Fox 0: CeX: In stock online: 918
>Street Fighter V: CeX: In stock online 970
Means literally nothing.
>>338950678
except Lost World and Rise of Lyric bombed harder than Zero
>Sonicfags trying to move the hot water to someone else again
NintenDOOMED
ayyyy lmao
Star fox zero is shit. Deal with it.
I should've returned my copy but for some asinine reason I'm keeping it.
>>338951538
>>Star Fox never sold and had a vocal minority that was born with the N64 asking for a new one, like me
stop claiming there was a big audience for the other mediocre Star Fox titles
sales went down as each game went with 643D being the only game in the series to receive back the loss from the previous declining title. (too bad Zero's too shit to even do the same)
>>338954730
it's another mediocre Star Fox game
This is what you Nintendildos deserve for being so cocky at the start of the eighth generation.
Eat shit.
>>338957363
Still the best around.
>>338956746
>reposted at 8/v/
>still got BTFO
>>338957363
what the hell are you on about? you have some kind of weird random chip on your shoulder about something Nintendo fans did to you when the Wii U came out or something?
>>338957634
>he doesn't remember the rampant Nintendomination shitposting
>>338955542
the first level is the best level in the game. it's was supposed to be a taste of the rest of the game to come
>three phases
>good on-rails section with plenty of stuff to shoot
>all-range mode enemy swatting
>non-annoying boss that lets you take it down in TWO different ways
>a branching path midway through the on-rails section to go fight a different boss. I would have preferred it wasn't it's own level but besides that the concept was sound. plus it's impossible for you to fight the alternate boss your first time around because the game has hard-locked you into not transforming into the walker until you get to sector alpha
>when you defeat said boss you go to a completely different level, though they are short and stupid. ok the game's falling apart now.
>>338957516
wut. This is always the case with you cancerchan faggots, you can't speak properly.
How many failures does it take before Nintendo fans quit hyping shit?
Every game is hearlded as the second coming of christ, then forgotten about because it's worse than the last installment.
Remember Xenoblade X? Remember Captain Toad? Of course not. They were only hyped nonstop for years.
>>338927549
They should of let sakurai make the game,not miyamoto. Nintendo really needs to see this though. I'm tired of them hiding behind directs where no one can tell them shit instead of doing live presentations. Fuck if it matters though, I used to be a dedicated Nintendrone but their recent shortcomings got me to buy a ps3. Can't wait for persona 5 and xrd revelator
>Dylan Cuthbert
Keep that bastard far the fuck away from Star Fox. That hack was responsible for Command.
>game is shit
>good job for not eating nintendos shit faggots
kill yourself
>>338958078
>Remember Xenoblade X? Remember Captain Toad?
Yes? I recently finished Xenoblade X and remember Captain Toad fondly. I didn't hype Captain Toad up, but I'd say XCX was well worth the hype.
>>338940049
>Clearly unfinished, homo Fludd garbage, generally fruity.
>meaningless buzzwords
melee was unfinished and it was the best smash bros ever
sunshine was unfinished yet still better than any mario game we get today
>>338958078
Everybody who played probably remembers Xenoblade X
>Hyped nonstop
It was threads with around 40 people watching japanese pseudo directs and posting screenshots until they played it at e3 and the bait threads popped up
If you want to talk about hyped and forgotten look at MGSV
>>338947121
The first game's plot was by far the stupidest thing about it. At least Bayo 2's is sensible, and retroactively improves the first game's. And this is from someone who thinks Bayo 2 is a worse game than Bayo 1.
>>338956746
>story worser than command
>64 """""retell"""" worser than "Marcus Mccloud" "Kursed" "Dashdross" and any of the shitty drama in game
what a shit list, especially how it tries to be the Other M is bad infograph when it doesn't even nail it down like does.
>>338957893
>wut
how ironic
kekchan has more people dissing on Zero than fucking here and they still thought your shitty graph was fuck-retarded
stay mad noone here and there agrees with your shit pic.
>>338928136
>>338928235
>underaged fags who never had a SNES
You don't know shit unless you grew up with NES, which you two obviously didn't.
>>338958114
he made 643D and actually added an options for basic and gyro controls.
he can come back as long he's not continuing command's shitty story or doing the touch screen shit again
>>338928235
>>338928385
The car based Mario Party, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8, Smash 4, 3DWorld, and Mario Galaxy were not on Gamecube.
>>338928136
I think you mean Assault. Adventures didn't influence any future fox games.
>>338957363
Nintendo still made some really great games this gen. Of course, you'll probably just call them all shit.
>>338958707
>melee was unfinished and it was the best smash bros ever
not any fucking Smash game is unfinished, and don't even damn dare compare shitsine with Melee at least the dev said it's the best as it was intended.
Sunshine is worser than fucking Galaxy, 3D World, and 64 competing who's shittier with 3D Land
>>338958707
>sunshine was unfinished yet still better than any mario game we get today
>>338931313
I'm pretty sure those games outsold SF0.
>>338960360
3D Land actually had content.
>>338940049
More people liked it than didn't. Stop trying to pull your historic revision bullshit.
>>338927549
All they had to do was add Pro Controller support OR a demo on the e shop and I would've bought it.
>>338958707
Sunshine retconned Bowser's real kids for Bowser Jr. It also gave Bowser that horrible voice over. I'll never forgive Sunshine.
>>338960558
>More people liked it than didn't.
BULLSHIT
>>338956746
I'm sure the game is shit, but whoever made this can't articulate a point to save their life. I can't tell what they're saying at all about the branching or linear levels.
>>338960582
>Sunshine retconned Bowser's real kids
>lorefags
Koopalings were never Bowser's kids
were you also hoping Bowser boned Peach as well due to that?
>>338931832
at this point I don't even think wii U games are worth pirating. What a garbage system.
>>338928235
>worst zelda
>not skyward shit or any of those fucking retarded handheld titles
>>338938072
Nintendrones would suck the Final Fantasy series' cock if it were on their systems.
>>338960360
Said no one ever
>>338960465
i had more fun with the secrets and blooper surfing than whatever "content" 3D Land had
>>338931313
>Ashleyfags in charge of not being retarded
>>338960669
The only bullshit is the one spewing out of your mouth, underage fag
>>338928136
>He hates the Gamecube
Wii babby detected
>>338961210
make a thread about "Sunshine > 64 > Galaxy" and tell me people won't shit on the fucking game and point out all of it's problems
>>338962134
Do the same with "Galaxy > Sunshine > 64", and see what happens
>>338960465
Yeah, a little, and then it got reused within its own damn self.
>>338954730
>The levels are too short
>Game a whole is way too short
>For how little content there is graphics should have been amazing
>The motion controls are bad.
I mean the game is built around them so it doesn't play terribly (too often), but they really should have done away with them and built the game around the original controls. That and it's really annoying to have to stare at the gamepad when all the crazy action is happening on the TV.
>Rehashed levels and nosolgia baiting
>walker isn't bad, but the gyro copter is awful
At least there isn't an aqua marine stage
>Andros is a fucking god awful fight
>Game can't figure which path you're trying to take and slams you into walls
It's not worth the price
>>338961297
>gamecube babbies calling anybody underage
>>338933394
because she was the reason Command was so great other than being a factor of why it was a giant disaster, amirite?
>>338927549
>Itt: nobody reads the article
>sonyfanboys NOW trust Nintendo life because its shiting on Nintendo even though there is no solid source or citation
>>338963178
>>338954730
>I mean the game is built around them
Main reason why the game is bad. If the motion controls were just a side thing, like letting you move the gamepad around the aim better, yeah fine ok.
But the game actively forces you to use them by either locking your camera onto the boss, or just by having weak points be impossible to hit without using the gamepad.
You would not be able to complete the game if they removed the gamepad controls and made it play like SF64.
I like Krystal?
>>338963245
anyone before 1998 are above 18 you dimwit, unlike the toddlers who grew up with the Wii as their first console.
![36950-Gex_-_Enter_the_Gecko_[NTSC-U]-2.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/F7QStpL.jpg "36950-Gex - Enter the Gecko [NTSC-U]-2")
>>338928585
There is literally only ONE thing I want from SE
>>338963446
>Anybody that hates on Nintendo is a soniygger
is /v/ usually this retarded?
>>338927940
>my anecdotal evidence saying uncharted was returned a lot beats actual figures
Sure thing, lying nintendrone
>>338963245
>it's the "post-5th gen owner=had the console since birth and initial release" meme again
>>338964130
How new
>>338964130
Its not like you guys were voted worst fanbase for nothing
>>338964498
>voted
by who?
>>338928235
MP6 is literally the best gamecube entry so you must be talking about 4, 5 or 7.
>>338963446
>anyone who shits on Star Fox Fl0p is a sonygger
>"waaah! discredit the article and picture! look at this boogeyman!"
fucking pathetic
stay mad, Platfag
>>338929757
why ruin that great image with that stupid meme?
>>338959997
of course they weren't
they were good
>>338951365
I seriously want to have sex with this thing.
>>338928235
>Worst Metroid
>(Prime 2)
Premium bait
>>338965048
Who doesn't want to have sex with Nova?
>>338963736
/thread
>>338939730
One of the times I felt absolutely no remorse about pirating a game. Good thing I didnt buy it too, its shit.
I haven't liked a Nintendo game since Splatoon, and I'm not getting tricked into picking up an NX.
>>338964614
by /v/
>>338965373
sonyggers with shit taste
>>338951365
I pirated this shit and its completely mediocre, and exactly the same as the previous one.
>>338964916
> 3DWorld
>MP8-10
>Smash 4
>MK8
>good
>>338941014
don't recall Adventures have the worst railshooter segments in the series.
not to mention every other mediocre/shitty Star Fox game after it was mostly all-range garbage.
>>338965585
Especially that extra cute looking Nova from Planet Robobot. He's all bright and shiny and new again.
>>338965585
>/v/
>relevant
>>338965924
Why do you like it? Its a true rehash, unlike what people sometimes claim is a rehash on this site. its the same game, looks and plays the same, bonus bits at the end are the same...ITS. SO. BORING.
>>338965585
>by /v/
Why would you care about 4chan's opinion on anything?
>>338927549
Good. Maybe they'll get the message.
With this shitty game.
With Metroid Federation Force.
With Paper Mario.
With Animal Crossing Amiibo party.
With all the fucking shit they have been making.
And I truly understand that I'm not their target audience for some of these, and that's fine. But they haven't released a game like that since Bayo 2. And they didnt even make that, they just produced it.
People dont want these shitty controls and gimmicky crap Nintendo.
>>338927770
Star fox should be more like battlefront
>>338965843
>and exactly the same as the previous one.
last game has shitty hypernova and weaker level design
PR fixes all that+more emphasis on 3D camera/levels
>>338966834
play battlefront then
>>338966834
on-foot shit was never good in the Star Fox
>>338928235
>Worst Zelda
Funnily enough I enjoyed every 3D Zelda except for skyward sword.
Skyward sword had some of the shittiest characters I ever saw in a Zelda game, I mean they're usually awful, but skyward sword took the biscuit with another cliche "bad guy bully who's really a good guy" and even more stupid looking characters than windwaker, which at least had the decency of having a large world to explore rather than linear outside dungeons.
The entire game had the same formulae, the outside areas were just linear dungeons, Ocorina and twilight both had vast areas of ground to cover easily rather than a boxed in mini dungeon world to get to the dungeon where you do the same thing, then fly back up, then down again into another linear outside dungeon to get to an inside dungeon and so on till the game ended.
And don't get me started on the controls
How the fuck skyward sword got such good reviews I'll never know. It's as if they've never played a 3D Zelda game before.
>>338960376
It's true. 3D Land/world are insultingly easy and not fun at all unless you're playing with 4 people. Galaxy is only barely a step up. Where are the real 3D mario games?
>>338933394
it'd still flop anyways
>>338968047
Hopefully dead forever.
Collectathons suck.
>>338968047
>difficulty defining a good game
>Where are the real 3D mario games?
you really wanna step there, pal?
>>338968565
Galaxy was a collect-a-thon
>>338968380
While true, the underworld had no villages that you could roam around in, buy things, talk to NPCs, side quests etc.
It was nothing but floaty island paradise with the odd island to fly to for a minigame to get you a piece of heart and some of the most boring sidequests I have ever done.
The game world is empty an barren, the enemies the exact same as one another and are the st boring and grindey yet and the areas they place the enemies might as well be interchangeable since the enemies just feel like they're there to sloe you down, which isn't helped by the "hold your controller like a retard" controls, of which twilight princess started to get annoying, but skyward killed to death with a hammer.
The music as well, I don't remember a SINGLE tune from it.
>>338968565
>64
>collect-a-thon
>>338969074
And when I say empty and barren, I mean "for a game world as small as skywards outside levels, there's a surprising lack of things to do and see" except perhaps walk along another low path to jump over the high paths later and still feel claustrophobic.
>>338928136
Top b8
>>338969074
>The music as well, I don't remember a SINGLE tune from it.
I'm glad I don't have this problem. It's one of my favorite soundtracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weT8_6nqaCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRPheoucN_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcs5vyOS1Lg
What's the appeal of railshooters anyway?
>>338966748
>star fox zero
>shitty controls
lel
>>338968380
Fuck off
>>338970393
why do you hate railshooters so much?
Post Krystal and Miyu
>>338970393
Really fast paced action.
>>338970573
>tv reticle is gimped solely to give the wii u pad a reason to exist
>gyrowing
>Everyone in this thread
>EVERYONE
>>338971061
>admitting you have never played a star fox game
>crying about the tutorial vehicle you can skip on subsequent playthroughs
You sure showed me.
>>338971403
Expurrain
>>338971403
>subsequent playthroughs
Oh boy I only have to put up with that shit on my first playthrough!
>>338971206
everyone what?
Star Fox never had a good main game or sucessor since 64
>>338971206
>I'm above everyone and I'm not going to show what side I'm on because I'm intellectually superior post
>>338971750
Star Fox Zero is a good game and it's certainly better than Star Fox 64 in many ways.
>>338972017
>Star Fox Zero is a good game and it's certainly better than Star Fox 64 in many ways.
>The Eternal PiiU owner
>>338972017
not when this exists
>>338972017
>Star Fox Zero is a good game
>>338972207
>PiiU
What are you, 12?
>>338972470
are you?
>>338972307
>>338972207
>>338972405
Try actually playing it sometime. Star Fox Zero really doesn't deserve the reputation it's getting.
>rehash a 20 year old game with barely any content, shitty forced gimmicks, no online, shit graphics, and censored dialogue, all for full price
>surprised nobody like it
>>338972559
I obviously don't write like one, kid.
>>338972772
y-you didn't play it!
>>338971685
Yes, it's a tutorial faggot. You bitch about how bad the controls are but then also cry about the tutorial vehicle. You're brain dead. Think of all the times you've played Star Fox 64, what percentage of playthroughs were your first?
>>338971449
Arwing can hack terminals so you don't need to switch to the gyrowing in the colony level and you can play Zoness with the Arwing.
>>338972827
>kid
yeah, you sure aren't 12.
>>338972767
i've posted a game that has more+better content, multiplayer, not dissapoint boss fight, and better controls than Zero
how have i not played it?
>>338973073
You can't even capitalize properly, kiddo. End yourself already.
>>338972767
It really isn't a bad game. It really isn't. Is it perfect? No. Is it flawed? Yes. Is it bad? Fuck no.
/v/ is so fucking overly dramatic.
