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https://twitter.com/RandomTBush/status/733123976352927745
https://twitter.com/RandomTBush/status/733123976352927745
https://twitter.com/RandomTBush/status/733123976352927745
IT AIN'T NOTHING BUT A HARDCORE BAYONETTA NERF BOYS (this is the same guy who leaked Roy/Ryu/Lucas)
Lower the hype, whine, post your would-be hopes, and speculate just how much Bayo got BTFO. The last time a patch was pre-announced like this, Diddy was hit by a truck.
https://twitter.com/thatsmash4moddr/status/733137861617291264
Bayo confirmed destroyed.
#BurnTheWitch
https://twitter.com/thatsmash4moddr
Lots of tweets showing changes.
BAYO MORE LIKE BTFO
Can I get just one fucking buff? I'll take 1 percent more on a jab at this point.
>>338113104
https://twitter.com/thatsmash4moddr/status/733133534500622336
wowit'sfuckingnothing.jpg
>people saying I was stupid when Bayonetta and Corrin came out when I said she needed nerfed and he didn't
fuck you cucks
You're lying OP
Lying isn't nice.
I am still going to kick ass with Bayonetta.
I'll fly all you fuckers to the moon.
LGTSS
JUST
This is delicious as fuck.
>>338113136
That hurts man. I just can't do it anymore. I tried and tried and tried to make it work but she's just so fucking bad and it's clear at this point they're never going to acually give her anything. Guess I'll just play Meme Falcon like everybody else.
KEK
>>338113393
NERF
>>338113136
>>338113136
>>338113483
>>338113483
They really should just remove her already.
Good. That way we'll get less whiny bitches who'll lose anyway.
>>338114018
DIVE KICK
>>338114018
WILL TO LIVE
>>338112761
>tfw Bayo and Bayo Kirby will never have a threesome with you
It hurts...
>>338114323
Stop being weird anon.
Just remove the 3 minute limit for uploading replays to YouTube and we're golden.
>>338112761
> yfw its buffs
> yfw wicked weaves have durability now
Unlike Diddy, Bayonetta has nothing to fall back on.
>she's got a lot of lag
>most of her attacks are low priority including her smash attacks
She better still have kill combos or I'll stop playing.
>>338114739
They already know everything:
https://twitter.com/thatsmash4moddr
It's a whole lot of nerfs nothing else.
Deserved, but man what a boring patch.
>>338113435
just play pm feggit
>>338114827
>bayo
>nothing to fall back on
>Amazing recovery
>She's got a lot of lag...in what universe?
Senpai I can respect that she's a character you clearly like but...be reasonable.
>Nerfing strong characters
>Not buffing weaker ones
>>338115037
>Melee Special Olympics: The Mod
>not going to melee bootcamp
>>338115268
I can't play ganon, dong or wario in melee so fuck it
Wow, what a boring patch, but maybe people will stop crying over bayonetta now.
>>338115268
>even 64 has it's own 20XX
>>338115062
>>She's got a lot of lag...in what universe?
have you played her? her aerials have a shitton of landing lag, and the more moves you use in the air, the more landing lag you get.
It's one of her biggest weaknesses
>>338115090
>implying nerfing the strong doesn't in turn burf the weak.
I mean yeah character specific buffs would be great but this is good too.
>>338115268
>melee: actually balanced: the mod
>playing 50 year old shit
>>338115425
Said lag could be cancelled....
>>338115062
>She's got a lot of lag...in what universe?
She's always had a lot of lag in comparison to other top tiers.
Her fastest moves were up- b and d-tilt.
Don't mistake her being able to land with an aerial out of a string as lack of lag. Once she hits the ground you have a huge window to punish.
Wow, what a boring patch, but maybe people will stop crying over bayonetta now. And maybe i can finally play her with good conciouns
>>338115090
Only the ignorant regurgitate this
>>338115478
>not playing good ol' classics
i wonder if you shill for DOOM
>>338115560
You can only cancel the lag by retreating to the ledge, or using neutral b (which if you fuck up you get punished hard for)
It's literally wait for bayo to land with an aerial and block it or avoid it then punish her within the 46 frame window.
>>338115468
You could nerf the top 5 characters and there still wouldn't be a reason to play someone like falco or bj. One of the biggest problems with smash 4 since day 1 is that there are a bunch of characters with very little going for them
>Bayonetta getting nerfed
>but Corrin stays the same
>Jigglypuff gets nothing
>Zelda stays shit
>Shulk doesn't get even a sliver of lag reduction
>>338115670
I can enjoy classics like doom and melee but when you try to play melee competitively, it's a joke. over half of the roster is not viable
>>338115425
>>338115563
This was a thing since day one yet people were still crying for nerfs.
I'm glad I don't play Bayo, but I feel bad for the people who do, you lost to a bunch of whiners who refused to learn the game.
>Bayo nerfed to uselessness
>characters that desperately need buffs go ignored
We all saw this coming.
>>338114827
>low priority
I thought /v/ was better than this
>>338112761
And here I thought that this was going to be the biggest patch yet with some nerfs to Bayonetta but also buffs all across the board
>>338115752
>Corrin is still OP meme
You've got some serious issues if you think like that.
So is Baeo still tourney viable?
I just want my 1.1.4 jab back
I hope for a tiny bit better frame dataI dream of a better run speed
>>338115802
desu she still seems pretty good.
Nothing suggests she can't combo like she used to.
I just don't think she can get super easy 0 to death kills.
All that fucking speculation for a hard Bayo nerf and fucking nothing else?
They really have given up.
>>338115037
>p-please play my dead mod
Just fucking end yourselves. It's over.
>>338115905
Her smashes do run on the same priority system as projectiles. Meaning they can be "destroyed" (they just clank without e characters staggering) by any move that do equal or more damage.
>>338115752
>Corrin is OP
Go to sleep you have work tomorrowMichael
>>338115961
Yes
Unless they nerfed the startup time of witch twist she will still be good
>>338115478
>>338115770
>playing a dead as shit wannabe mod
>>338115962
>that image
Thanks for making me want more alt. colors.;_;
>>338115770
seem like you didn't get the message enough
>>338116135
>Actual alts for cloud
This needs to happen soon
>>338112761
Nice, but disappointing.
>>338115398
Just play SDR then, it's in 20XX
>>338116079
well yeah pricks like you couldn't move on and adapt to matchups that weren't spacies, shiek, marth, jiggs, or ice climbers. what did you expect to happen? a long and fruitful life?
>>338116135
>>338116205
I can barely tell Cloud's colors apart in game except for the red soldier one. I was hoping for a white AC costume based on Rufus.
>>338116135
They screwed up the Aeris alt by not having the light color underneathe and the maroon on top but otherwise those are some spectacular alts, wow.
I wonder if whoever made that also made the SOLDIER uniform alts.
>>338116051
Keep saying it some day it will be true. Meanwhile there's tournaments and gatherings for PM still being held with people showing up.
Go ahead and show up and tell the guys putting time into a good game in person their mod is dead. Oh wait, you'll never do that cause you're just a shitposting coward.
>>338116253
>SDR is in 20XX
What?? Holy shit I did not know this. I'll check it out.
>>338113325
I will never fucking understand why these two characters in particular have practically never been touched by the buff stuck. I'm sure there are others but these are the most obvious.
>>338116179
you're memeing on me with a tr4sh image. stop shitposting. we're talking about PM. which is literally melee but doesn't restrict you to five or so choices
>>338116308
>adapt
The game's balancing is a joke. Everybody gets chaingrabs and easy-bake-oven sheik-tier auto combos. Not to mention the skill padding, L-cancel baby training wheels, and casual buffer.
Why are shitters so obsessed with viability? Even if melee only had the 8 top characters, it would still be a better game than PM.
>>338116385
Pac-Man's a big one. Got nothing but nerfs and bug fixes that did nothing but cause more bugs and in one case BRING a previously fixed bug back until 1.1.5 which gave him one, one buff.
It's sad because he's arguably the only third party character who's just not up there with the rest.
>>338116345https://twitter.com/Whienzarth/status/682102747521531904
>>338116479
because literally every tourney for melee is boring as shit to watch now
>>338116135
Why want when you can have senpai?
>>338116503
Pacman has always been hilariously buggy, it seems like every knew patch someone would find something completely retarded he can do.
>>338116308
>pricks like you couldn't move on
>muh one smash order
Sakurai will never EVER make the next game solely to dethrone competitive Melee
how about YOU move back to melee or move on as a casual fuck/scrub like everyone else.
>>338116550
>spongebob cloud
fucking kek
>>338116553
Only the Grand finals are boring and that's if Hbox is in them.
Don't ever dare to say that shit to me after sets like M2k 3-0 Armada and 2-stocking him on Dreamland at Smash Summit 2.
>>338116135
>That one alt which is literally just a 10% darker version of his default FF7 costume
WHAT
THE
FUCK
SAKURAI
>>338116396
>we're talking about dead Brawl mod
sorry senpai, got 20XX and vanilla Melee, so don't need autocombos: the mod in my life.
>325MB download to edit one character's stats
y'all niggas some braindead motherfuckers if you didn't think Bayo was getting nerfed sooner or later
>>338116784
It's the way 3DS updates work. They stack, so the update is everything from 1.1 all the way to 1.16.
>>338116376
I'm just sick of seeing you P:M fuckers in every single goddamn Smash thread shilling your shit. Melee thread? You're there shitposting about people not being able to adapt (which is fucking hilarious considering the whole point of P:M was to simulate Melee). Sm4sh thread? You fucker are there to call the game shit and how people should be playing P:M instead.
Anyone who wants to play your shit is already playing it. Stop trying to shill it in every goddamn thread.
>>338116901
>Anyone who wants to play your shit is already playing it. Stop trying to shill it in every goddamn thread.
Fair enough. I can't help recommend the game I personally prefer to people I see struggling with current smash bullshit.
>>338116901
>whole point of P:M was to simulate Melee
and the devs recognized that melee's balance is atrocious and tried to correct it
>>338116550
>Shinra Cloud
Nope, too bright. A respectable version exists already.
>Tifa Cloud
Too much white. The metal pauldron and bracer should both be black.
>Tidus Cloud
Why? Pauldron should be blue, bracer should be red and gold. Eh.
>Sephiroth Cloud
Decent enough but shoulda changed the hair color to silver, too.
Honestly? The lack of a Zack alt ASTOUNDS me. Seriously.
>>338116575
>>338116696
It's based on his newer appearances
For some reason Square decided to make his suit black instead of purple later, it's probably Crisis Core's fault since it was the one who started it
>>338116376
>Meanwhile there's tournaments and gatherings for PM still being held with people showing up.
all 5 of them
>>338112761
Um, isn't the patch file like 30+ mb for Wii U and like 300+ mb for 3DS?
>>338112761
Meh, I'm okay with it.
I voted for her to be in so I'll still play her. I just hope they didn't fuck her up too much,
>Hoping for DDD buffs, ever
>>338117243
Zing. Still more than Rivals of Aether probably.
>>338116135
Maybe once sm4sh modding is more common.
>>338115670
>t.
What is this a title he holds?
>>338116135
There was this one I liked based on Terra from FF6
Cloud looks good with pink and white
>>338117370
>has goatfu
>furries didn't attach to the game
damn
>Only a Bayonetta nerf was documented
>no changes to Witch Time
Worthless update, good night.
>>338117669
terveisin
Supposed changes to Bayo. Gutted the fuck out of Witch Twist and ABK Divekick
Dtilt
Hitbox sizes 3.5 -> 2.8
Fair
Hit 1 damage 3.8 -> 3
Hit 2 damage 2.8 -> 2.2
Hit 3 KBG 82 -> 68, x1.2 frame speed multiplier added to frame 29 (presumably means 1f later autocancel/2f later FAF, but these don't always translate to ingame as expected)
Dair landing
KBG 140 -> 135
Afterburner Kick
All hitboxes: SDI multiplier 1 -> 2
Early hit KBG: 40 -> 50
Middle hit KBG: 30 -> 38
Late hit KBG 100 -> 112
Afterburner Divekick
Damage 8 -> 6.5
Angle 80° -> 60°
Hitbox size 6.5 -> 4.5
SDI multiplier 1 -> 2
Afterburner Divekick landing
SDI multiplier 1 -> 2
Witch Twist
All hitboxes: SDI multiplier 1 -> 2
Early middle hit
Upper hitbox KBG/WKB 100g/160w -> 97g/140w
Upper hitbox Ypos 24 -> 21
Both hitbox sizes 8 -> 7
Middle middle hit
Upper hitbox Ypos 24 -> 21
Both hitbox sizes 8 -> 7
Late middle hit
Upper hitbox Ypos 24 -> 21
Lower hitbox WKB 160 -> 135
Both hitbox sizes 8 -> 7
Last hit (first use)
KBG/BKB 105g/50b -> 80g/55b
Hitbox size 9 -> 8.5
Y'pos 20 -> 19
Last hit (second use)
KBG 30 -> 50
Hitbox size 9 -> 8.5
Y'pos 20 -> 19
>>338117669
You guys should also know that the Bayo hit wasn't even that bad.
The biggest thing is the downwards side b nerf and all that might do is make it harder to get a second one at low percents.
She's still going to have her basic up b stuff.
>>338117715
Eh, it's not bad... it's just not hype at all. Every design in the game could have been pushed to have way more character than this. Wrafter or whatever is probably my fave design wise but they could've gone farther.
guys quickly start some fake shit how they are nerfing a woman. nintendo is being sexist pigs and trying to bring down the woman.
>>338116696
>>338117142
Dissidia and Crisis Core aren't too overt about it. Dissidia moreso. Crisis Core still follows (mostly) the rules but gives Angeal/Zack/Cloud (basically the 1st Class SOLDIERS) an essentially black uniform with purple undertones. Originally it was
SOLDIER 3rd Class = Navy
SOLDIER 2nd Class = Maroon
SOLDIER 1st Class = Purple
Crisis Core came along and decided to make its unique characters also have unique colors
Angeal wears a faded black uniform
Zack starts in Blue then ends with jet black
Gackt wore red leather like a faggot
Sephiroth wears black leather like the other faggot
>>338112761
>People expecting more DLC characters
>People expecting Sakurai to not be too japanese (aka, peopke expecting him to have a heart and be clear)
>>338112761
literally all they needed to do was reduce upward knockback on UP B so she can't 0-to-death anymore
that would've been enough
>>338117928
No
>>338117669
Alberto Barbosa
>>338117862
this sounds like something a snobbish hipster would say and use
>>338117857
>They doubled the SDI modifier
Mega kek ding dong the witch is dead
>>338117857
where the fuck are you getting the SDI multiplier data from?
>>338117857
>Last hit (second use)
>KBG 30 -> 50
Is this going to be enough to stop up air from connecting?
>>338117142
>>338117963
Oh.
Thanks for the info.
Isn't the update 300mb? What the fuck is Hackuria doing?
>Cloud untouched
Feels good.
Memes have gone too far.
>That size of a patch
>Just to fix Bayo
naaaaah
>>338118178
Smashboards.
>>338117904
Actually scratch this, didn't see those witch twist changes, kek
You're going to be able to SDI her shit easy as fuck now.
>>338117857
Basically
>You can actually SDI out of her combos now
>Divekick into divekick isn't as good anymore and probably won't combo into itself
>She has smaller hitboxes overall
This is what I was expecting actually, but I still wanted more.
This won't stop Bayonetta from witch twisting out of shield into a 35+ combo
>>338117857
>SDI multiplier 1->2
This is pretty damn sigificant, isn't it?
>>338112761
>>338118257
Sakurai hasn't even been with development in months.
This is all Namco and Nintendo straight up trying to damage control and stop the bitching.
This patch is probably the reason why ZeRo will actually be in a tournament now instead of ducking like a bitch because he was fearful of Bayonetta
>>338118257
Sorry shitposter san, Namco are the ones doing patches, Sakurai's done with the game and working on his own stuff
Haven't been paying to much attention, has it actually been confirmed only bayo was touched or is it just what it looks like at the moment?
>>338117990
sakurai didn't make this patch i am like 99% sure, since there are cosmetic stage modifications too which i don't recall him ever doing.
more likely Namco doing it
>>338118559
Yes. If you were good at SDI it was already easy to get out of witch twist.
Now it's going to be stupidly easy.
>>338118591
ZeRo had finger surgery or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxXiYGResUE
So all those "Just adapt lol" will actually have meaning now?
>>338117990
this post reeks kuck
>>338118591
>This patch is probably the reason why ZeRo will actually be in a tournament now instead of ducking like a bitch because he was fearful of Bayonetta
Zero was actually trying to get back into goml earlier but was rejected because seeding was final. He's still gonna and hang out though
THREE HUNDRED (300) MEGABYTES.
300000 (THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND) KILOBYTES
OF DATA
FOR THIS
"Ok so like, what if for our next character, they like, use a sword, and have max priority moves, and uh, a counter"
"Brilliant"
>>338118626
It's pretty much confirmed. Multiple dataminers have verified it so far.
>>338118585
>how should we fix this character who does piss damage but just happens to have a cheap, easily escapable 0-to-death combo?
>LOL LETS JUST MAKE HER INTO GARBAGE THATS HOW BALANCING WORKS
>>338118748
nope see >>338116634
>>338118808
>>338118257
It was 300mb because the 3DS patching method is inefficient as fuck, it basically just reinstalls all previous patches plus the new one. That's literally all.
>>338118626
On the twitters of people looking into the updated files of the patch and comparing to the previous patch, the only parameter changes noted come from Bayonetta. They use some tool to compare sections of data, as with that image earlier in the thread with the result of comparing 1.1.5 Jigglypuff to 1.1.6 Jigglypuff.
>>338118585
I am completely erect.
Shame Witch Time wasn't nerfed though.
>>338119032
She will literally fucking need witch time reliably to kill you damn nigger.
>>338118182
It didn't connect before with perfect SDI, so even if it does still connect it should be relatively easy to escape.
>>338112761
Well if there is another positive thing about this patch is that at least Cloud wasn't nerfed
>>338113104
I was really surprised to learn that puff is low tier
I've been using her in for glory with decent success
I get so many rest kills off roll spammers, because people are just so, so bad at this game.
>>338118585
>SDI works now.
Thank fuck.
>>338118821
>>338119013
Thanks, I can't help but laugh at the irony of all these patch threads we've had lately. What a real shame.
>>338113483
The dream is dead.
so can someone explain to me why the wii u patches are 60mb but the 3ds is over 300mb
how the fuck does that make sense, shouldn't it be the opposite
>>338119097
YOU'RE ONLY MAKING MY PENIS HARDER
>>338119032
Witch Time is fine now you fuck. Stop being predictable.
>>338119223
What do you mean? Puff is just as viable as always
>>338119238
Bayo never even won a major or dominated the competitive scene like Pre-patch yet she's been given a diddy/luigi size nerf.
It isn't fair for them to nerf everything.
Why the fuck do they nerf her hitbox and damage if you can now easily SDI out of her combos?
>>338119226
Supposedly the 3DS patches in all previous updates
>>338118071
it's fucking finnish
>>338119371
Because Zero whined like a little bitch about her.
>>338118207
Technically, Sm4sh has all the correct colorings, but they aren't really strong enough for the frenetic pace. And also his gayass Advent Children alt didn't need 4 exactly the same colorings. It should've been the 3 SOLDIER classes (saturation increased), Advent Children garb, Shinra garb, and a Zack alt.
Also, the eyes don't glow enough. The single most unique and identifying mark of a SOLDIER is the mako eyes and none ever have eyes that glow.
>>338119405
it still makes no sense for the wii u to have 60mb if only two files are updated
>>338119226
DREAMS DON'T DIE, ANON
>>338119337
You mean not viable?
>Make lonely neckbeards spend shekels to buy degenerate witch bitch
>Nerf the fuck out of her to shit on everyone that voted for her
Mashpotato Samurai LMAOing at your life
>>338119483
Pretty much this.
>>338119483
You mean everyone
>>338115037
But puff is shit in that game too.
>>338119483
I think her viability as a character falls out of the window if you can escape her combos.
Bayo without killstrings is unplayable.
People don't understand she's not diddy she's not shiek. She doesn't have safe moves and amazing frame data. If people know how to punish her she can get dominated.
>>338119521
fuck, it was meant for
>>338119223
It's not fucking fair.
What did I do to deserve this?
>>338115752
Corrin isn't OP anymore, what the fuck is wrong with you.
Good. Maybe now she won't be so boring to play against.
Fin~
>>338119567
I'm just happy she got in at all.
I expected nerfs to come with how much people were whining about her. At least they didn't fuck with witch time.
>>338119624
Which ZeRo and the tournament scene started. Sheik was never that bad in terms of whining and she was way better than Bayo.
>>338119562
Exactly, you have nothing to complain about
>>338118207
>>338119507
Maybe an alt that included the helmets they're all supposed to wear.
>>338119512
There are apparently some stage things in the patch too.
is DDD good yet?
>>338119778
>>338119834
:^)
>>338119834
The one good thing out of Big D never getting anything are the updates to this image.
https://embed.gyazo.com/f7e469008b7c5bf2b56403584c2f448c.mp4
Holy shit. Bayo downwards side b is dead as fuck.
>>338119868
neglect
HOLY SHIT GUYS
ZERO'S HAND JUST HEALED UP ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE A COUPLE OF HOUR AGO
HE'S COMING BACK TO TOURNEYS
WHO /HYPE/ HERE?
>>338120074
nice
i like it
very subtle
>>338119684
>Smash 4 fags refuse to adapt
>Smash 4 fags refuse to learn to character and how to counter her
>Smash 4 fags join Zer0's anti-Bayo posse
>Smash 4 fags endlessly cry and bitch
>Smash 4 fags demand the game be casualized in their favor
>Developers cave and nerf her
>Smash 4 fags now have their 'Super Shiek Dickwaving Bros.' game back
People wanted her in the game, and too be good. Now look what happened.
>>338120035
I don't even like her but that is just sad
>>338120035
Maybe it'll be used just for edge guarding now?
>>338114381
>posting stuff regarding the shitty Kirby anime
>on /v/
jfmsu
>>338120151
You act like Smash 4 was ever good or balanced.
Its never been good, its always been casual trash.
>>338120035
I like it
>>338119684
>> If people know how to punish her she can get dominated.
>>338120035
Wooo boy...
>>338120035
So what use does that move have now?
>>338120523
If it doesn't combo anymore, it has literally no use.
>>338120321
Die.
>>338120594
At least for comboing anyway. Still a decent option for getting down.
>>338119684
>I think her viability as a character falls out of the window if you can escape her combos.
pretty shitty fucking character design when said character has retarded fucking priority on her combo starters
Smash has conditioned you dumb shitlords to think that if a character isnt diddy, shiek or ZSS its a shit character. fuck awful game with fuckawful design
>party game lol
fuck off you zipperhead shitlords
>>338118071
I guess all the shitposters and niggers from twitter are hipsters then.
>>338120489
>Poppolio
Dedede fags the absolute worst.
>>338120035
What's the point of having this move now? It's complete ass. Why is the angle all the way at fucking 60?
>>338113104
if u really cared that much you would transition to melee :^)
>>338120895
>Smash has conditioned you dumb shitlords to think that if a character isnt diddy, shiek or ZSS its a shit character. fuck awful game with fuckawful design
Bayonetta is legitimately a shit character without combos though.
>low priority moves
>low priority smash attacks
>start up / end lag.
She has nothing to fall behind.
>>338120035
bayo is dead now.
>>338112761
>we could have had k.rool as another heavy instead of this shit, leaving the meta entirely untouched since heavies are never competitively viable in the first place
fucking hell
>>338121137
>Priority
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCLnC-ejPQ
>>338121290
K.Rool fags STILL butthurt
Oh my, some drops are left. Here I thought everyone else had drank them all.
>>338121296
Not him but when I say priority I usually just mean it as a shortened version of saying "more speed/damage/kb"
Though I know there are plenty of newbies or people who suck who think its some seperate property
as long as Bayo has Witch Time she will never leave top 10
>>338120151
(I use bayonetta the post)
>>338121290
after all the shit D3 got, they wouldn't treat weapon wielding kings like K. Rool or Pig Ganon in Smash very well either
A moment of silence please, in respect for all mains of the following characters:
>(Pikmin &) Olimar
>Mr. Game & Watch
>Duck Hunt (Duo)
>Palutena
>Dr. Mario
>Bowser Jr.
>Zelda
>Roy
>King Dedede
>Jigglypuff
>Ganondorf
https://twitter.com/LettuceUdon/status/733151595479752704
New downwards ABK hitbox. They shrunk the hell out of this.
>>338121480
I don't actually.
>>338121290
>2016
>kuck
>>338121553
It seems fine to me
>>338121597
I refuse to believe this was not ironic shitposting.
>>338121438
Eh, as long as you bait it out once you should be fine for a good while even if they get you the second time.
>>338121438
She also might still have
Witch Twist —> Afterburner Kick —> Witch Twist —> Afternurner Kick —> UAir
If she still has that she's still Top 5, she loses it, she'll be Top 10/15
>>338121639
came straight from gamefaqs like always
>tfw you stopped playing Smash because online gets boring after a while and the single player content sucks
I don't know how you guys do it. It must be just sheer autism.
>>338121531
Nigger I don't need your gay minute of silence or your pity.
>>338121639
you seen nothing
>>338121676
She likely still has it, but the SDI multiplier on all of that is 2.0 now. It's going to be a lot easier to SDI out of.
>>338121639
>underestimating smash rosterfag autism
>>338121820
Don't worry, there's always hope for mods to make our characters better.Can I take a shot in the dark and say you play Roy?
>>338121531
>>338121820
Sadly he's right.
I don't feel pity or sadness anymore.
I've lost all feeling along time ago.
>>338121920
We still have to see how easy it will bend in the first place. You had to SDI like a God to get out on WitChristmas Twist and most pros couldn't do it.
>>338121814
I played it virtually daily since launch till I bought SFV about two months ago and stopped cold turkey
>>338119521
When will they buff Cyclops into the roster?
Smash would honestly improve with the addition some X-men and more Street Fighters.
>>338116676
Mein brudder. Love Axe's reaction in the bg.
>>338112761
>Bayo nerfed
>Zero is just going to come in and dominate again.
Fuck the Sm4sh meta.
>>338121531
>implying I'm not used to this shit
>>338119834
So he stopped caring about being strong in a party game and moved on?
That's pretty mature of him.
>>338122108
and can extend that to multiple capcom characters beyond street fighter
>Zero
>Strider Hiryu
>Viewtiful Joe
>Amaterasu
>>338122136
OH HEY LOOK MY HAND HEALED AS SOON AS BAYO WAS NERFED! GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH HER HUH?!
Fucking fat fuck disappeared as soon as Sheik was nerfed and Bayo took over top spot.
>>338122078
It was mostly because no one really knew which way to SDI. Now that we know the best way is to do QC SDI up people just gotta start practicing it.
I've seen some Japanese players play 9B on his stream a long time ago and he was SDIing out of literally all of 9B's stuff.
>>338119980
This. You fags need to get good, DDD is S tier right now.
>>338122038
Palutena.
>>338122393
I'm laughing at this to be honest.
It goes to show that he hasn't changed much from his Brawl days.
>>338120035
She didn't deserve to have one of her best moves become pointless.
they could of made it so it wouldn't kill you at zero percent, but you could still get some follow up off it.
Now the only follow up I can think of is, dive kick, into dive kick. which is risky as fuck.
>>338121531
>no Pac-Man
>>338121296
>no priority
>but mac's jab beats this pikachu's dash attack
>no priority
>but if you upsmash as mario against pikachu's d-air it will win and you will take no damage despite my previous suggestion that all air attacks will always trade
Okay bayofags I will ignore the autism of this video if you can name me five (5) attacks in this game that can beat your shitty little slide kick in a trade.
>>338122136abas going to shit on him
>>338122393
Yeah I'm calling bullshit on this too.
You stopped competing only because of Bayonetta. The one thing that he couldn't be solidly. Now that she's been nerfed to the ground, his wounds magically healed and he's ready to money match people.
Damn fraud.
>>338122558
Doesn't look like that would connect. Plus, that was a CPU, so there probably wasn't any DI away in that.
>>338122575
I think Pac-Man is a wild card in my opinion, but we should still pay our respects to his grab.
>>338122426
C'mon.
Ive mained the guy since day 1.
He's got some seriously flaws that need to be addressed and I don't see that happening. Ever.
>>338122698
>palutenas back air
>lil mac's side smash
>ike's fair
>charizards rock smash
>K.O punch
>>338121531
>Zelda
what did i do to deserve fifteen years of suffering, sakurai
there is no longer anger or sadness, just emptiness
>>338122752
why would they completely make her best neutral approach option useless. Why the fuck couldn't they just add more SDI to it?
Why make it literal garbage.
Surely she at least should get a follow up off it?
>>338122698
Robin's arcfire
>>338121531
Only ones of those that are actually a travesty are Duck Hunt, Jr, Zelda, Puff, DDD, and Ganon
The rest range from medicore to actually mid tier.
>>338122575
Nigga you're fine wtf. Aba got 7th at Apex and 4th at Evo with him
>>338122698
Mario's upsmash has straight up invincibility coded into a part of it. Plus, you're whining about aerials trading when you're talking about an aerial + a smash attack.
>>338122856
Name one flawbesides slow recovery times
>Sakurai: "This character has nearly all attacks lag on ground, and she builds up lag in the air when landing. But she has good combos."
>NERF HERRR
>Sakurai: "It is done, you no longer have to suffer from watching interesting air battles that put you on the edge of your seat on if the enemy will beat her or not. After all, we don't want matchings to be fun or interesting to watch like Melee right?"
I hope the complainers are happy. They get what they want, slow floaty garbage with no fun and interesting combos.
Matches being entertaining to watch >>>>>>> "character balance"
Fact.
This shit is why Melee will always be superior.
