Damn, guess Nintendo really does want to be the Disney of vidya.
what
Nintendo started as a playing card company and multiple other ventures before video games so it's not really surprising they're thinking about changing their business.
>>338049665
>eating establishments
wait wut?
>>338050090
LOVE HOTELS obviously
>>338050090
I'm imagining getting more Mario crap in your happy meals
>When Nintendo are more interested in restaurants than actually making games
>>338050298
You're stupid if you actually think that.
>>338049665
That's not the issue, they're diversifying themselves. They have two big problems right now though
>diversifying this fucking late when Bamco is miles ahead of them
>mentioning that Shigeru Miyamoto will be responsible for the film business, healthcare business, and so on
Nintendo execs have let idiocy run wild with them all due to the blind and one hit wonder success of the Wii. Does that mean they won't get money? No they will. But all their products, whether it's a movie or a healthcare or a food establishment will be utter shut in quality
Think of a shitty non vidya product or service with a brand name. They'll be the king of that stupid mentality soon
I remember hearing about the medical initiative on a RFN podcast years ago. Something about sleep apnia machines and other small appliances with nintendo themes GUIs and such
>>338050391
Nintendo always releases quality products though
>>338050298
Just like everything else they make, it's destined to become shit!
They are incompetent hacks when it comes to their core business. Why do they believe they could run restaurant brands, hollywood movies and theme parks?
>>338050647
>They are incompetent hacks when it comes to their core business. Why do they believe they could run restaurant brands, hollywood movies and theme parks?
Brand name
They want to be the poor mans disney
>>338050289
>>338050162
I think that they are probably opening their OWN restaurants.
The Nintendo toys in Burger King or Mc Donalds have been a thing for years.
>>338049665
Post yfw Nintendo will drop out of the console business in your lifetime
>F-Zero is rebooted as a roller coaster
>>338050090
mac donalds partnerships.
>>338050938
>it's slow because kids might get sick
I can see it now.
>>338049665
I wonder how a Nintendo theme park would be like.
>>338050647
Because diversification is usually a smart idea.
>>338050978
What kind of partnership?
They already have their happy meal toys. I think that Nintendo wants to open their own restaurants.
Would be cool if that happens tbqh.
>>338050938
>yfw it's a F-Zero branded Rock and Roll Coaster
>>338050885
I do see this as a possible exit strategy and them transitioning to 3rd party, but god knows when that'll happen.
>>338050885
All the upper management should commit Sudoku already. Maybe let a westerner become president for once because the old japanese guys who run this company clearly don't know what the fuck they are doing.
>>338050647
>They are incompetent hacks when it comes to their core business. Why do they believe they could run restaurant brands, hollywood movies and theme parks?
Because they think having Shiggy on board will magically turn their ventures into diamonds and gold
>Shiggy responsible for Nintendo's movie business
>NO STORY OR ORGINAR CHARACTA; MAKE TOADS SCREAM MEMES AND MARIO GOING THRU WORLD 1 TO LAST WORLD AND SAVE PRINCESSU PEACH
>Shiggy in charge of Healthcsre
>WE DONT NEED CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY; GIVE SICK PEOPLE PLUSHIES. THEY WILL FEEL BETTER
>Shiggy in charge of food
>NO HAMBURGER OPTIONS. JUST PUT BUN AND RETTUCE WITHOUT MEAT OR ANYTHING ERSE. ADD TOMATO DRAWING OF MARIO. THERE, NINTENDO BURGER
>>338051094
Ask Universal in 2017.
>>338051102
Why?
It'd be macdonalds-lite.
Though an exotic Pikmin themed restaurant would be neat.
Go paleo, or go home
>>338050391
>Shigeru Miyamoto will be responsible for the film business
The man who hates story is responsible for the film business?
>>338051047
>it's slow because kids might get sick
You know there is a height requirement for roller coasters right?
>>338051129
>"faaaaalcon punch" as the ride launches
>Nintendo would rather do literally anything but make good games again
>>338051094
50% Mario, 40% Pokemon and a animal crossing village with dozens of minimum wage slaves in furry costumes.
NINTENDO SMARTPHONE WHEN
>>338051134
>Maybe let a westerner become president for once
>giving NoA more power
This is a bad idea, and you should be ashamed.
>Nintendo is trying to become the face of gaming with it's brand
I tought they already were the face of console gaming, if not in the way most fans would want it, but Nintendo is synonym of videogames.
This is all unnecessary, and it's just going to confuse people
>>338051134
>All the upper management should commit Sudoku already. Maybe let a westerner become president for once because the old japanese guys who run this company clearly don't know what the fuck they are doing.
This
China saved SNK. We need more foreign companies to save Japanese corps like Nintendo and SEGA.
In b4 Japanese can't be bought out by Americans meme; there's literally no such thing. It happens all the time in Japan and that meme started here and went to Neogaf
>>338051102
>I think that Nintendo wants to open their own restaurants.
doubtfull. They might buy shares on other franchises though.
We might see nintendo cereals and cookies too but I don't think they'll waste money in restaurants.
>>338051162
>>NO STORY OR ORGINAR CHARACTA; MAKE TOADS SCREAM MEMES AND MARIO GOING THRU WORLD 1 TO LAST WORLD AND SAVE PRINCESSU PEACH
When will this meme end? He's only opposed to story in Mario. Put him in charge of anything else and he wants story out the ass.
WE NEED MORE PACHINKO MACHINES
>restaurant
>quality of life
>movies
sounds like things we already know about from indirect sources.
Hopefully the meeting finally drops some names.
>>338051450
Reminder that Sega had a way out of collapse, but ignored the white man's advice.
>>338051302
He was partially the one behind the Pikmin shorts.
>>338050885
That's one more reason to keep living
>>338051134
It's not an east-west thing.
It's a literal MUH SENPAI HONORU bullshit that's ingrained in japs and chinks alike. New jobs don't open up by incompetence and firings like the west. They open up when the person literally dies. So we have a few decades before all the boomers clear out.
>>338050298
A restaurant/arcade combo could be pretty cool.
>>338051549
Like the great story that was the Starfox 64 retelling in SF Zero?
>>338051602
It's been known, but this is about them actually moving forward with those plans.
>>338051302
he loves stories and comics, just not in his games. But he pushed the pikmin shorts idea, and possibly the Star fox anime.
>>338051664
Yeah, partially the one behind cartooney short animations.
Not films.
>>338051740
Dave and Busters, Nintendo edition?
>>338051752
I didn't say it would be good.
>>338051615
Nintendo is not Sega though.
There is way better shape than /v/ makes them out to be.
>>338050090
MARIO´S
-Pizzeria-
>>338051331
>Nintendo theme park
>height requirements anywhere
Good one.
>>338051891
suddenly all the mexican bootleg food industry collapses
>>338050885
>in the end it wasn't Sega or Sony who killed Nintendo
>it was themselves
>>338051894
well it's not like they could add age requirements
>>338051615
>Reminder that Sega had a way out of collapse, but ignored the white man's advice.
Japan is already declining anyways. Society and culture has fucked so many other areas in Japan; sane Japanese people are actually fleeing there to come to the USA
I spoke with a Japanese couple once here in the NY though they live in NJ. They told me how fucked up it is over there; how people are expected to overwork themselves under idiotic Japanese businessmen, how they've lost their sense of culture, etc.
Japan still has this sense "Danny Devito/Matilda" complex of "I'm right and you're not because I said so and don't dare question my authority" mentality. It's ducking scary
>>338051963
>mexican bootleg food industry collapses
What?
>>338051549
>He's only opposed to story in Mario
What about how Koizumi had to sneak story into his early Zelda titles?
Sticker star counts as well, it's mario but it's an RPG.
>>338051739
It feels like Nintendo regressed, though. Just compare Yamauchi-Nintendo with Iwata-Nintendo. They became more close minded and japano centric with every passing year.
>all this mad
Why are people so upset at a business diversitying?
>>338051740
if thats at all possible it will be japan only
>>338051615
wait what, mind telling the story?
>>338052002
Can confirm, I live in Mexico and a Japanese family just moved to my neighborhood recently.
is "article of incorpation" a real thing with a meaning in business or is it a fancy name for their meeting subject?
I hope they make lots of spaghetti
> it's a /v/ pretended to understand a single thing about business and forecasts the doom of nintendo episode
>you lived to see nintendo commit sodoku
It will be the most relevant news theyve been in for a while now.
>>338052136
Yamauchi was a fucking hard ass that involved himself with whether or not he likes a game by looking at real time gameplay and occasionly playing it himself. He made people go back and do it again if he didn't like it
He also had Shiggy under a leash; which is why Miyamoto was quoted saying he didn't like the SNES and N64 Era.
Unlike Iwata, Yamauchi was an educated businessman through the school of hard Knox. Son of a bitch went through the wars and worked with gaijans; he understood how others saw things. It's why he hired that one old NoA boss who was a Japanese American. Forgot his name desu
>>338052151
Because you should do that at a stage where you're already pushing out a decent amount of products in your specific field.
>>338052389
You do realize that, if anything, this will make Nintendo live longer?
>>338052151
Because wiiu users feel like they were given the finger and demand games instead of shit like this
>>338049665
>>338050090
>amiibos in your fucking Happy Meal
This guy is a fucking genius, he will use Pizza Hut king Reggie to do it, watch as Nintendo takes hold of the entire planet through Nintendo sponsored food and develops their own Philosopher's legacy to make consoles with insane technology that they can sell at a massive loss for 100$ so they can kill every competitor and win videogames for eternity with infinite budget titles.
His bank background doesn't betray him, this man will singlehandedly make Nintendo a worldwide brand that will tower ever above Apple.
>>338052224
>wait what, mind telling the story?
The guy responsible for putting SEGA on the map for USA and Europe got canned and his advice was ignored. SEGA was originally a American venture started in Japan until the nips took over and ousted him out
>>338052151
Because it's a result from sheer incompetence. After a decade, Nintendo now realize they suck at what they do and now they have to try something else.
>>338052151
Because we know that Nintendo doesn't have the mind, nor the means to do this at this stage. It's just overreaching.
It's just like fucking Inafune and all his bullshit.
>I'm going to have a movie and an anime and a sequel!
All while the major faces of the company are way over the hump and don't know what people want anymore, but refuse to let new ideas in.
>>338052031
stuff like this, aka those cheap pizza place in big cities with bootleg names. Italian products are fucking always OCDONUTSTEEL mario and luigi around there.
>>338052594
>Because we know that Nintendo doesn't have the mind, nor the means to do this at this stage. It's just overreaching.
You do realize all they have to do is licensees the IPs.
Do you think they are making all this shit themselves?
>>338052151
because /v/ is retarded on pretty much everything
> sony has a bazillion different divisions
> MS has a bazillion different divisions
> nintendo decides to dip their toes in possibly diversifying
MUH SIDES NINTENDO IS SURELY FINISHED NOW
all the articles of incorporation state do is set up nintendo in the future to diversify if they so choose, it's not a 100% guarantee, but legally speaking you have to do it pave the future. that doesn't mean they're going to open up 5000 restaurants and theme parks and movie studios tomorrow
these things take time and careful planning and as a public company you have to do stuff like this to keep your shareholders informed
>>338052379
>>338052151
/v/ isn't upset or claiming a Ninty is doomed
/v/ is just worried how much they'll fuck this up because they've fucked everything else up
>>338049665
>nintendo slowly trying to become a megacorp
Cyberpunk age soon.
>>338052286
You can LITERALLY just google it.
>>338052591
>Because it's a result from sheer incompetence
So, expanding your business is incompetence?
>>338052782
why would I do that when you could answer it and make this thread a discussion instead of a memespam?
>>338052460
In other businesses not vidya though
>>338051457
Not really, kids these days are legitimately asking 20 year olds "what's a nintendo" while playing with their ipads.
>>338052224
http://www.adilegian.com/Segagaga/?p=26
http://www.sega-16.com/2006/07/interview-tom-kalinske/
Obviously it's only one side of the story but he seemed like a reasonable guy.
>>338052887
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>338052560
Before Amiibos were announced, there was rumors that Burger King would have "NFC toys" that you could use with your Wii U. But nothing ever came of it.
>>338052887
they still make money in vidya. even this shitty year had some profits.
>>338052560
At this point I can't tell if this post was supposed to be ironic or not
>>338051094
well at universal studios florida, it will only encompass the small area that is now the kids zone so its not going to be anything too special
>>338052996
really? even with the meme pic it wasn't enough? you augh'ta lurk moar
the fact of the matter is, nintendo is going nowhere, because their #1 resource has always been family & kids
it's an infinite resource. kids will always love zelda, pokemon, mario kart and shit when they're growing up and they'll have fond memories of it and their kids will have new nintendo game 20XX when they raise them
>>338052953
the problem with those partnerships is that most partners arent worldwide and you'd end up with having small shitty deals for each country which isn't that profitable.
>>338051457
Uh Sony is the face of gaming
I don't know if you know this, but Sony already has theme parks, toys, and restaurants, so Nintendo will lose anyway.
>>338052682
They certainly don't make it sound like that. Aside from that, while Japan loves them some Fire Emblem, the general populous of the US and other western countries only associates Mario, Zelda and Pokemon with Nintendo. Trying to bank on name brand alone these days is suicide.
>Hey guys, let's license out Zelda and Mario to general mills for a cereal again. Remember when we did that? Surely people will buy it in droves and GM won't drop us.
Sure they will make money in the short term, but the brand name will suffer and people will consider Nintendo more of a joke then they do now.
>>338052452
No, you do this when you know change is needed to stay relevant.
Look at Disney, what they did when they saw how much Pixar was fucking up and their own internal studios were collapsing?
Buy Marvel, Buy Lucas, fire half of its internal studio, change many fucking positions in it, hire new talent that brough new hits like Frozen and Zootopia.
What I am trying to say is that a company has 2 options when they are falling apart, sell out, or bring massive change.
Now I am not saying Nintendo is doing it right, they are keeping the same people in power for what we know(except for the president), but all this could mean that new leads, directors, people in command will show up soon and hopefully make a Disney level change.
>>338053098
>Uh Sony is the face of gaming
>>338053074
>family & kids
>it's an infinite resource.
Not in Japan, and less in europe every year.
It's a good demographic if they go in China though.
>>338049665
They need to fire Miyamoto or send that fucker on vacation because his Willy Wonka mentality is going to ruin their company.
>>338052707
Diffrence being sony and microsoft didnt start as video game companies, they already had a bunch of successful other buissiness then went in to vidya.
Nintendo has been failing at everything they do for a while now and branching off into new stuff to fail at too is dumb.
>>338053149
>Trying to bank on name brand alone these days is suicide
Mario will always be a marketable brand no matter what.
>but the brand name will suffer and people will consider Nintendo more of a joke then they do now
You clearly have no bias in this isutatuon.
>>338053098
>Sony is the face of gaming
lol no. Candy crush and League of Legend are the face of gaming. Heartstone and wow too.
>>338050162
COSPLAY LOVE HOTELS
>>338053309
>Nintendo has been failing at everything they do for a while now
rewriting history already? Or are you young enough to believe 2 years is long?
>>338053074
Kids these days love Minecraft and Call of Duty. Apparently Pokemon is still popular though.
>>338052151
Because it's "okay" when Nintendo does it
>it's a /v/ thinks they know business episode
You guys are so adorable.
>>338053336
Candy Crush has been irrelevant since 2014.
>>338052707
> sony has a bazillion different divisions
> MS has a bazillion different divisions
Nigger neither of them rose to power because they were console manufacturers. They both had a bazillion different divisions before they ever started making consoles.
>>338053336
Mobile gaming has pretty much replaced handheld gaming in the eyes of investors and "gamers" (if you want to call them that)
Sony is still the king of gaming in Asia, Africa, Middle East, and Europe.
US is a different story though, since here no one is the king. You got Sony fans and Microsoft fans. And a further split between console and PC folks
>>338053485
>Its a condescending post that offers nothing to the discussion
and you are so pathetic
>>338053098
>Sony is the face of gaming
If you go out on the streets and ask people who is Ratchel and clank, Nathan Drake, Kratos, would they recognize say characters?
>>338052910
I'll counter your anecdotal evidence with my anecdotal evidence of seeing kids play 3DS while their parents shop
>>338053213
>hat they did when they saw how much Pixar was fucking up
After being bought by Disney?
Either way, Disney is incredibly smart with its business, Nintendo does not have a good track record, especially as of late.
>>338052707
> sony has a bazillion different divisions
Kek. Nearly all of them are dragging down the company while SCE let them float above the water.
>>338050090
THIS HERE IS MONA PIZZA
>Instead of making new games or pachinko, dead franchises are turned into theme park rides
>>338053309
> Diffrence being sony and microsoft didnt start as video game companies, they already had a bunch of successful other buissiness then went in to vidya.
ummm...you just proved my point
MS was only an OS company, now look at them. In fact, many people were making fun of MS when they first tried the xbox in 2000, now look at them
Sony made radios and tape recorders. Now they have music and a film studio on top of their video games
Disney was just a animation studio, marvel just made comic books, amazon just sold books, etc, etc
Diversifying is never a bad idea.
> Nintendo has been failing at everything they do for a while now and branching off into new stuff to fail at too is dumb.
They haven't been failing at everything. The WiiU isn't selling to hardcores like xbone/ps4 but what else is new? They've been going for the casual family audience for a decade now
>A company with near endless bouanty of recognizable characters built off the back of nearly 40 years of trust from the brand alone
>somehow expanding using to characters will cause the company to die
>>338053706
I don't know when I last saw a kid playing with a handheld instead of a smartphone. Must've been years.
>>338053823
>Not the first post by this IP
Come on Ruggarall, apply yourself.
>Damn, guess Nintendo really does want to be the Disney of vidya.
moar like nintendo wants to live to see 2026
>>338053558
>Sony is still the king of gaming in Asia, Africa, Middle East, and Europe.
>Asia
That is PC if you count Korea and China, Japan specifically is share evenly between Nintendo and Sony
>Africa
hahaha
>Middle East
Funny enough is Nintendo, double check your digits son
>Europe
yesssssss Fifa 16 is almost coming out too!!
>U.S
Gaming culture favors Nintendo by far, Nintendo is more cultural, sure PS4
s sell more, but people need Call of Duty machines what can we do?
>>338053721
>way, Disney is incredibly smart with its business, Nintendo does not have a good track record, especially as of late.
This
I've said this before in a previous thread and I'll say it again. Nintendo's old Japanese men and their stubborn mentality is what's going to throw this company into hell. Not financial hell, but into our own hell. They won't be the Nintendo we once loved
Disney is the king of cartoon animation. Until this day, they still are; it's been their MAIN PRODUCT FOCUS. From there they've successfully branched out while making top notch animation.
Nintendo on the other hand has keep fucking with us. They made a half baked console with stupid limitations from social to technological. They've fucked up some games way too many times and aren't stopping. Now they want to branch out.
Will that stop making them money? No, but they'll be a poor mans Disney until they pivot industries or merge with another company or sell themselves out to a bigger one
>>338053823
>4chanX user
>>338053948
>I don't know when I last saw a kid playing with a handheld instead of a smartphone
That's okay anon, it not your fault.
We know you're not allowed with 300 feet of children.
>>338054074
Ruggarall, you took my advice and changed your VPN.
>>338053547
> Nigger neither of them rose to power because they were console manufacturers. They both had a bazillion different divisions before they ever started making consoles.
But they were still ONE company you shithead. They still diversified. Bill Gates and Paul Allen didn't find microsoft in their garage with a million different divisions.
You have to start somewhere and eventually you can expand.
Nintendo is already in a great space infrastructurally to expand
/v/ knows absolute shit about business
>>338049665
>IP Licensing
So like, "Mario Teaches Typing" and "Wand of Gamelon" IP licensing or like "Donkey Kong on XBox" and "Super Mario 3D World on PlayStation" IP licensing?
>>338053948
>I haven't seen it so it MUSTN'T happen
>>338054181
God damn /v/ is so retarded when it comes to buisness.
>>338054083
>Funny enough is Nintendo, double check your digits son
Sony is the king of the Middle East though. No one there knows what the fuck a Mario or Kirby is. Yet they all know Kratos and Nathan Drake. I've middle eastern friends back there and been to UAE. Nintendo is basically a relic like Atari there
They should have made this 20 years ago
Typical Japanese always traditional and slow to new opportunities
If nintendo was american they would be a multimedia empire by now
>>338054181
it means Mario the Tennis Racket. Mario the Toilet Paper. Mario the Breakfast Dildo
>>338054181
Definitely the former. Nintendo would rather die that allow their IPs on a competing console.
>>338054302
>. I've middle eastern friends back there and been to UAE
I love anecdotal evidence as much as the next guy, but can you provide some actually statistics to back up your claim
>>338054328
>If nintendo was american they would be a multimedia empire by now
This is why they need to be bought out
"Video games were a mistake" - Nintendo
>>338054419
>Not the first post by this IP
>>338049665
>Nintendo medical products
what
Is Nintendo getting into licensed products for pediatrics or something?
>>338054302
>I have indian friends I know everything
you can use something as simple as vgchartz if you want son, middle east is fucking weird when we talk about gaming, Pokemon and MMO's is really everything they play, people knowing Kratos and Drake over there sounds more like a joke than anything else, this is coming from someone that goes over there every 2 years or so you know, to visit family.
>>338054107
>>338054195
Well I DID saw a fat woman with a DSi a couple of weeks ago in the tram.
>>338054487
Yes autismo, there are people ITT having a back and forth discussion; what's your point?
>>338052681
Considering how hawkishly Nintendo protects their IP you'd think they'd be taking these places out.
>>338054495
No it was for the WiiU on life support
>>338049665
I mean, both Sony and Microsoft have different branches, they don't produce only videogames.
So I don't see how's a bad thing. Nintendo never stopped producing hanafuda card for a century, they won't stop making videogames either.
So in /v/'s mind, making anything besides video games means Nintendo is leaving video games?
>>338053453
>2 years
N64 lost to psx
Gamecube lost to ps2
Wii was a succsess
Wii u lost to everything
>>338054328
This. It's way to late to be doing this shit. It won't take with people, esspecially so much so soon. If Nintendo was like.
>Hey, we are making a theme park. Come see it.
And that became a success, then they could see about other things, like a movie division.
It's this all at once shit that's the problem. Even then, I could see it working if there was a massive restructuring within the company, but they are keeping the people that are running them into the ground.
>>338054716
>n64 lost to psx
Love this meme
>>338054716
N64 was the best console from that generation.
>>338050501
Yeah, the Quality of Life" thing Iwata kept talking about. Guess it's still not dead.
>>338053907
Once again the diffrence is that those companies were already successful. Nintendo has been shitting themselves lately so bad that this is clear they dont know what the fuck to do with games anymore so they want to get into other ventures.
>>338054715
More like branching out at this point when you haven't made the main product you put out, quality games/systems; is a stupid idea and we don't like it
>>338054794
Nah its never too late they will see plenty of profits from this.
A proper zelda movie will make millions
And then a multiverse movie series by nintendo
Shit son this stuff makes itself
And of course it wont be all at once you dingus they need proper timing and good marketing
>>338050885
I don't even care anymore. I've realized the true value of vidya is in its nostalgia effect, and I've almost exclusively switched over to being a /vr/ trooper. I haven't bought a new video game in over 6 months and I don't plan on it for quite some time.
>>338054992
>And then a multiverse movie series by nintendo
This shit is dumb. it works with capeshit since those have always been connected.
>>338049665
>medical and health devices
rev up those vitality sensors
>>338054809
>>338054836
>there's people who are this delusional
>>338054794
>It's this all at once shit that's the problem. Even then, I could see it working if there was a massive restructuring within the company, but they are keeping the people that are running them into the ground
It's going to take off in Japan but forget it being as successful as Disney; let alone 25% as successful as them
>>338053342
I wish, would go every week
>>338054840
It was a stupid idea then and it's a stupid idea now. Why the hell would anyone buy a sleep apnea machine with a Nintendo GUI? Nobody will ever associate Nintendo's name brand with health care.
>>338054716
>console wars
>ignore how they banked with pokemon
>and the DS
>then the Wii
They were never "losing" outside of your fanfics.
And the WiiU still makes money. it's nowhere close to be a Sega situation like you want really hard to believe
>>338055124
can anything be as successful as Disney?
>>338055224
it would basically be a whole business built from the success of wii fit
>>338050162
They already tried those.
>>338054842
>Once again the diffrence is that those companies were already successful. Nintendo has been shitting themselves lately so bad that this is clear they dont know what the fuck to do with games anymore so they want to get into other ventures.
The biggest problem with /v/ and Nintendo fans as a whole is that no one will agree; let alone see our point of view here. This is coming from someone who got sick of Nintendo fucking him in the ass as a loyal consumer
I feel like they've missed the window when this stuff would actually be the most profitable. They should have been rolling this stuff out in 2011 when they were actually popular and had normie casuals eating out of their hand, not 2016 when their popularity is at pretty much an all time low.
>>338055381
>when their popularity is at pretty much an all time low.
No it's not
It's as popular as ever
>>338054992
>A proper zelda movie will make millions
I guess but they have to hire a pretty competent animation studio for that. It needs a proper story because, let's face it they can't adapt any of the games.
>>338055018
>I don't even care anymore. I've realized the true value of vidya is in its nostalgia effect, and I've almost exclusively switched over to being a /vr/ trooper. I haven't bought a new video game in over 6 months and I don't plan on it for quite some time
2bh famalam, /vr/ > /vg/ > dog shit > /v/
>>338050885
I'm ready.
>>338055296
>Wii Fit
>success
Right... Sure, people bought it. But, I don't know anyone that still uses it. Is it still used in Japan?
Everyone wanted to try it because it was still part of the Wii fad. After it faded, everyone forgot about it. If it didn't stick, it wasn't a proper success.
>>338055114
Growing up a Nintendofag, I believed it. The thing is, in my opinion, it's still true. PSX had a fuckton of games, and quite a few great ones, and N64 was quality over quantity in every way possible, for me anyways. Especially when it came to multiplayer. Shit like Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Mario Tennis and Perfect Dark were head-and-shoulders above any multiplayer PSX stuff.
And for me, the single-player, first party efforts for the N64 are some of the finest in their series. The N64 may not have had as broad an appeal as the PSX, but for those it was targeting, it was an absolute smash hit.
>>338049665
>massage parlors
>call girl services
>>338051162
Go watch the pikmin short movies which he directed.
>>338055528
I don't even go to /vr/ all that much. I spent more time actually playing my games. I just pop in there occasionally for the random interesting thread about old video game ads and shit.
>>338055294
>can anything be as successful as Disney
Warner Bros if they actually had competent people; just ask /co/ or /tv/ or any die hard cape shit fan/animated toons fan
Nintendo and SEGA; if they didn't fuck up constantly. Too bad they already have
>>338055517
>animation studio
Nobody except Japan would want it to be animated. They will want a live action movie. Nintendo can't win in this situation. They either got for international appeal, or they make it for Japan.
Blame every fake "Zelda" trailer ever.
>>338055478
>No it's not
>It's as popular as ever
How to spot a Nintendrone
>>338055792
>Nobody except Japan would want it to be animated
I like how your personal opinions somehow speak for whole countries.
>>338055792
>They will want a live action movie
That only can be the flop of the century. An even poorer Narnia.
>>338055528
/vr/ is hellish groundhog day
>LE SUPER CASTLEVANIA BROS
>CASTLEVANIA ON AMIGA IS FOR PATRICIANS
>FUCK OFF EMULATION FAGS
>FUCK OFF CRT FAGS
>DUKE 3D IS FOR CASUALS
>THERE CALLED GORGON HEADS
And so on
>>338055567
>Right... Sure, people bought it.
aka success. Also cut the neogaftalk, it's just cringy.
>>338055568
>this
>>338055597
>girls all dress up like famous Nintendo character
>>338054809
The N64 didnt even sell a third of the consoles the PS1 did. Where is the meme?
>>338056040
It was nowhere near as bad as I expected it to be. I'd say I enjoyed it.
If they are making it, it's going to be CG shit and you know it. Nintendo may have memorable franchises but non of them are predestined for movie adaptions.
>>338050885
Do you think Sony or EA will get any of the good IPs?
>>338056071
literally plausible in 20 years
>>338055381
>when their popularity is at pretty much an all time low.
It isn't really. People still buy Nintendo themed items like shirts and backpacks. It's never too late to do it as long as they do it well.
Like the theme parks is going to need at least one ride that will pull people in and get featured on all those theme park shows and such.
>>338049665
>They're going the same route as Konami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4
>>338056040
Don't they arbitrarily name drop 4chan?
>>338054865
>we
Excuse me?
>>338055858
Ok, let's pull up the history of every time a rumor comes up about a Zelda movie. It's always Live Action. It's ingrained in people.
>>338055923
>success
Not for the purposes that Nintendo wanted it. If you want to create the idea that Nintendo can be about fitness, then people have to take that seriously and actually use the darn thing. My parents bought that darn thing to use. Used it for a week and forgot about it, because they considered it a game and not about health.
If Nintendo can't convince people to take their health talk seriously, then they won't be able to convince Health Care Professionals to license their IPs for shit.
>>338056205
>Do you think Sony or EA will get any of the good IPs?
EA/Activision will get all the mainstream IPs that sell like hot cakes; Mario/Zelda/etc
Sony would probably pick up metroid
>>338056071
I'm gonna pick Vivian every time.
>>338052920
>Sega literally failed because Japs were jealous of Americans.
>Post yfw crash is inbound
You think someone would do that?
Just go on the internet and tell lies?
>>338056339
>song is the main theme "Apocalypse Now"
>Jim Morrison's father basically started the Vietnam war
pottery
>>338051739
>New jobs don't open up by incompetence
Neither it does in the West.
>>338056502
This reading is amazing. The japs at Sega were so jealous that they gave the N64 it's processor.
Sasuga "gaijin kaere" mentally.
>>338050374
Yet look at Star Fox Zero
>>338049665
Its a pivot. Remember nintendo started out as a card company and then was a toy company and they now have a character and a cast of characters that are almost as known as mickey mouse.
>>338056467
>not going for the superior bj potential that is Birdo
What are you gay or something?
>>338056635
>ames Douglas Morrison was born in Melbourne, Florida, the son of Clara Virginia (née Clarke) and Rear Admiral George Stephen Morrison, USN,[9] who commanded US naval forces during the alleged Tonkin Gulf Incident, which provided the pretext for the US invasion of South Vietnam in 1965.
Coppola you absolute madman
>This thread
I have a question to the people claiming loom and doom as well as those who are arguing with the Nintendo drones
WHY DO YOU CARE
If Nintendo has been fucking up and their die hard fans won't admit it, why would you argue with them on an anonymous image board? Just say you're tidbit and leave; arguing your point of view with die hard fans won't win you any conversions or points
Seriously. I don't agree with what Ninty is doing now and see a flop coming but I respect those who have a differing opinion than me. Note I said OPINION; because no matter how hard these drones fight back im standing by what I know.
Seriously if anything you all should be having fun and poke fun at Nintendo for doing this. But getting angry? It seems like you guys like Nintendo more than the die hard cry babies that defend this company do.
Just let it go
>>338057341
>goes out of his way to type an angry rant asking everyone why everyone angrily ranting
dumb birdposter
>>338057341
If you would lurk more instead of posting after 3 weeks here you would realize the entire point of this site is to argue about things that don't matter. Nobody is going to change their viewpoint, we all just come here to yell at each other until we fall asleep.
>>338057341
>If Nintendo has been fucking up and their die hard fans won't admit it
Not even the most hardcore fans are crazy enough to think Ninty has be doing all right the last handful of year. But there are idiots who are crazy enough to think Nintendo is going to shut down because WiiU failed.
>>338057883
>has be doing all right the last handful of year.
2015 was pretty good. The problem is neo/v/ let twitch dictate what is "acceptable" by counting the number of paid streamers on the subject.
>>338053051
>Kids Zone in Universal
I thought they were replacing the Marvel part of Islands of Adventure?
That Marvel section actually has a lot of rides, including the park's most famous roller coaster, the Hulk.
>>338058234
>I thought they were replacing the Marvel part of Islands of Adventure?
If anything, the opposite is happening.
They are actually finishing up renovating the Hulk coaster after adding a bunch of new shit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Th3Gnd6zQ
>>338059216
The hulk part makes sense since Universal still retains ownership of a lot of the Hulk. I wonder about the rest of the Marvel area though.
>>338053051
>>338058234
Both of these are false.
The Nintendo expansion is pretty big, probably around the size of the second harry potter expansion they did (though not as big as the first) but it's ONLY in Universal Studios Japan for right now. They will gauge the success of that in Japan to decide on whether they want to bring it to the US or not.
It will be completed in Japan in 2020. If it's widely successful, another deal could be made to have it be completed in the US by like 2026. They're likely testing the waters to see if they want to sell the Marvel theme park rights back to Disney, since they currently aren't allowed to expand anyway and are unable to make new Marvel based rides (or any refurbishments related to the MCU for that matter) to capitalize off of the MCU success.
>>338049665
This is not good news. The best thing about Nintendo is that they're an actual games company.
Sony is a hardware company, and Microsoft is a software company, that decided to diversify into computer games because it was sort of related to what they do, but you can always tell their origins. Sony and Microsoft don't really care about the games, which is why they have such a strong third party focus. They're all about providing a platform so they can benefit from other people's work. Nintendo has very firmly been a game company. They provide a platform so they can provide games for it. Variety is good for the industry. It's a good thing that we have different companies with different priorities.
Oh well. Get ready for Nintendo to become yet another fuckhuge conglomerate. Hope you're looking forwards to "Sages' Choice Old Folk's homes" and "Super Mario Burger".
>>338049665
Make Nintendo Great Again
>>338060534
Well, Nintendo entered as a toy company. Look at their shit in the 70s. Video games were just one of many investments they made.
>>338053309
you are fucking stupid, Nintendo did NOT start out as a video game company, it started as a card making and love hotel industry, drown in your ignorace
>>338060534
>Sony is a hardware company
Media.
Also, when people refuse to side with the "little" dog you have to get bigger. The moment media features started deciding console generations, this was decided.
>>338049665
>IP licensing
Well, how long until EA tries to make a Mario game?
>>338061204
EA can't offer shit that media giants like Disney can.
>>338049665
>you can nurses that look like Peach and Midna
>>338055018
>6 months
You've been missing out, breh
>>338061510
Literally every single game here is
>I played it already on Vita / PS3 / PC / Wii
>I have it / am getting it on PC
or
>Not interested
Star Ocean was looking good til recently. Now it seems a bit eh. Was going to get Ratchet and Clank until I learned it's basically just an HD version of the original with fewer levels.
Uncharted 4 I'm sure I'll give a rent someday to.
>>338054281
well no shit
its a bunch of NEETs being armchair analysts
>>338061991
/v/ is full of savvy politicians too.
>>338061204
>EA
>actually making something
>>338049970
When you put it that way, this makes a lot more sense.
>>338062085
Not to mention experienced electrical engineers and software designers.
>>338053689
No, but they will claim KingdomHearts3 is a "sony game", same for FF and many other current multiplats
Sony doesn't have a single killer exclusive, (well, other than GranTurismo which sells at least 10 million units with every main entry), but Sony's recognition comes from various IPs, no matter if they are exclusive anymore.
At least in my EU country moms and news call every other console a playstation. You could be playing a 3DS and your grannie will tell you to "stop playing that playstation thing already!" or you see news about whichever other console and the news presenter will say "It's like the playstation, but (...)"
Playstation has always been the "everything" console and is associated with almost every IP outside of nintendo's/MS's exclusives. DMC, MGS, FF, KH and most other jap games
>>338050885
It might happen, it might not.
At this point I don't really care and I'm just curious about where this will go.
>>338060983
Exactly. Nintendo treated computer games as a form of digital toy, to go along with their board games and physical toys.
>>338051409
>how dare they have fun in my thread
>>338061510
>shadow of the beast
>>338061991
"I'm not allowed an oppinion because I'm not ..." is still the dumbest thing that comes up in discussions.
>>338052560
I'm not gonna lie I'd eat a Nintendo meal if it came with a fuckin' amiibo.Unless the food was really shitty, I mean.
>>338050298
I just hope part of my meal isn't sold as DLC
>>338061510
Might wanna switch salt and sanctuary to the pc side, bruv. Shit came out on steam yesterday.
Nintedo should do like Disney and create a separate studio for the adult oriented material so normies don't directly associate the panties to their name, while still making money out of it. all that censorship is because their marketer fear the association of the games with their name after all.
>>338055568
Nigger what are you smocking
You are fully aware you were a complete fanboy and biased about that era and even still you think it's true.
PS1 has BOTH quantity and quality. It spawned many new amazing IPs and sequels. Just because they don't have nintendo mascots doesn't mean they aren't as memorable for those who played it.
PS1 has more classics than N64. I can recall maybe 10 great N64 games but those would be it. On the other hand I can think of 30 PS1 classics and many other that I wouldn't consider classics but were fucking amazing still.
What N64 had, perhaps, is more mainstream impact with a couple of games, such as zelda and mario, which every major publication mentions at least every year on the top 10 of top100 lists.
But I get equally as nostalgic about FFtactics, Valkyrie Profile, Vagrant Story, FF7... fuck I need to stop. It's just that most PS1 classics remained more niche relative to N64's, perhaps because there were more of them.
>>338063408
Nothing in the image is wrong. It was released on a sony system exclusively.
Later it came out on PC.
One could argue that launch windows are important. As S&S laucnhed during the month-long wait for DaS3 just at the perfect time to play it. Now it's still a nice experience and all, but it isn't killing time for DaS3's launch. I'd argue that's an imporant factor
Either way, list is still not wrong. Who knows, in 6 months some other game in it could be ported, in 3 years another one. No one knows, so that's why it specifically says "Releases" and not "games"
>>338051740
yeah, boiled crab and joysticks.
>>338063610
Thats what they tried in the late 90s until Iwata decided to cut all ties in early 2000s.
Now its too late to go for that, Nintendo hardware has that baby games stigmata attached to them and just making M rated games wont help, see Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden 3 RE and so on they scored on their platform, which all failed horribly.
And there is the thing that nintendo isnt known for their good jugdements when it comes to that market, e.g. see Geist, where the devs made a game that was well received until Nintendo came and said "No you cant do that, scrap everything and shift focus away from fighting" or Nintendo telling DMA Designs to fuck off after they saw Body Harvest, a critically acclaimed title, and stopped their partnership with them( DMA Design then went to playstation and supprise supprise the game they made for it was GTA, one of the biggest video game IPs ever).
>>338063807
You're delusional if you don't think that Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, weren't important milestones in game history, something which can't be said about Digimon Legend of Legaia and I'd argue about the importance about FF episodes post 7.
Resident Evil and Silent Hill set new standards for games genre, most games on your list didn't. You can like Crash Team Racing as much as you can, it remains a racing party game that came after Super Mario Kart and that tried to catch its light, instead of standing on its feet by itself.
>>338055568
The few good games the N64 had were legendary great. Pretty much anything by Nintendo & Rare, Mischief Makers, Bomberman 64, the Star Wars titles, and a few others that were available on other platforms...the rest was ass.
Ass.
>>338066596
>the rest was ass.
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PU7sU0sN80
>>338065682
>and stopped their partnership with them( DMA Design then went to playstation and supprise supprise the game they made for it was GTA, one of the biggest video game IPs ever).
Excepting GTA 1 wasn't shaping to be what it is today. Don't mix up the early project and the sandbox project that GTA3 was.
>>338066590
>a game is only good if its revolutionary for the gaming industry
Welp
I think this post fill the quota of retardation for today
>>338067095
GTA still turned out to be a massive success and DMA Design turned out to be good(not really supprising as they made successful games before without nintendo).
>>338050885
They've been shit since the Wii anyways. Good riddance.
>>338066590
did you even get to read my post?
>What N64 had, perhaps, is more mainstream impact with a couple of games, such as zelda and mario
I said they had more impact, I only gave the example of mainstream acknowledgement, but of course that also comes with an impact in game development, the two are always interconnected.
Changing the industry with less than a handful of games doesn't mean it was the best console of the generation
HaloCE standarized the modern console FPS controls, which have since only been slightly changed, like in CoD where the aiming button is switched with the grenade button in comparison to Halo.
And even had a huge impact in FPS design (we saw a switch to 2 weapon carrying limit, a dedicated melee button, a dedicated grenade button, regenerating health instead of health packs, etc). it might not have been the first to do any of those individually but it was the first that popularized them.
Does that mean that Xbox trumped PS2? Because one of its games completely and permanently influenced one of the most popular genres of today's gaming?
No.
PS1 had way more top quality classics than N64, why are you even trying to deny that now? I can't see how anyone can argue with that. Try to name a 30 game long N64 list, then I do the same with PS1 and lets see which is better.
N64 had a couple of high impact games, and a handful of classics
PS1 had less impactul industry-wide games (although many developers recall TombRaider as being an impressive step) but had a much larger library of good games.
See pic related? Other than GTA3, and maaaybe DMC there aren't any "industry changing games" but who cares? They were all fucking great. You don't need to have that much of an impact to be a classic.
Mario64 and OoT don't make up for 5 PS1 games just because they filled a quota of impact. They stand side to side with any one PS1 classics, not above them.
>>338067703
And how many studios had their partnership with Nintendo stopped and turned out to be shit?
It is easier to find the exceptions. Waiting 4 years before success eventually happens is not exactly how business works.
>>338067007
Oh wow, you found ONE WHOLE GAME that I didn't mention. And then it's a racing game with one whole car.
>>338068685
>you found
That's the only thing that matters.
>>338068921
Except the part where I ultimately dismissed the game as not worth the price of admission.
Try again.
Oh, and I'm adding Midway & Acclaim to the list of devs that managed to eek out a couple decent games on the N64. Forgot about them.
>>338069707
>Except the part where I ultimately dismissed the game as not worth the price of admission.
Who cares. The first Extreme G game was also pretty good. by the way.
>>338049665
goodbye videogames
>>338065682
>Now its too late to go for that
it's never too late in business. Don't mix your life logic with economics.
>>338063807
you are beyond deluded, what defines modern gaming, camera, 3D space and texture buffers were all made by nintendo, even the president of rockstar games constantly says that anyone who ever makes a 3D game that dares say they didn't learn from mario 64 is a fucking liar, his exact words, YOU are the faggot fanboy here.
The playstation was a wonderful consoles because it allowed underground devs a chance and welcomed everyone (it was sony's choice after being stepped on by nintendo with the philips deal), they wanted to humiliate them and so made an ultra open platform, but just like steam greenlight, opening the floodgates allows a lot of liquid fucking shit to get through, the nintendo 64 was and forever will be Quality over Quantity while the psx will forever be the latter, this is the objective fucking truth.
didn't nintendo have whore houses for a few decades?
>>338049665
Vidya isn't doing so hot for Nintendo anymore, they are expanding and changing their business to be something else like they have before
>>338070439
Not that guy but do you really think someone gives a damn about which game did something first? I don't give a fuck if Mario invented 3d platformers or if MGS revolutionized storytelling in videogames, I play videogames because they are good not because of their merits
Also you're the one who's deluded if you think the n64 library didn't have a single bad game I mean look at Superman 64 or Paper Boy 64
>>338070439
HA HA HA HA HA your so blind am coughing up here literally hang yourself my man
>>338069971
>Extreme G
Extreme G was okay, but it's on the list of devs that managed to eek out a few decent games on the N64. So sorry.
Care to name some non-racing games? Like Ogre Battle, Sin & Punishment, and...uhmm...
Hmm.
On the other hand, the PS1 had 5 great games for every N64's 1.
>>338070961
Love hotels, "love testers", taxi's, and a TV station.
>>338053907
The difference between ALL of those is that they began diversifying during a time of great profit and advancement of their brand. Nintendo is receeding and not doing so well anymore, they are not diversifying because they are doing so well they want to expand. They are doing it to stay in the black and also because they can read the writing on the walls
>>338071367
>Care to name some non-racing games?
It had a shit ton of decent sports games F1, Wrestling, Soccer and shit. But I don't know how many of them were exclusive if any.
>>338049665
>You're alive to see Nintendo quit video games
I mean I know they're old and have done a lot more things than just vydia, but this still feels weird and sad at the same time
>>338070439
>the nintendo 64 was and forever will be Quality over Quantity
Carmageddon 64
Superman
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
The Powerpuff Girls: Chemical X-Traction
Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue
Mike Piazza's Strike Zone
Deadly Arts
Olympic Hockey '98
Dual Heroes
Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals
Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero
Daikatana
ClayFighter 63 1/3
South Park Rally
Nagano Winter Olympics '98
Blues Brothers 2000
Polaris SnoCross
Rugrats: Scavenger Hunt
Army Men: Sarge's Heroes 2
WCW Backstage Assault
NBA In the Zone '98
World League Soccer 2000
WCW Nitro
Rally Challenge 2000
War Gods
Cruis'n Exotica
Aidyn Chronicles
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
Mission: Impossible
Fighter Destiny 2
Uh huh.
>>338071871
Made by Midway, one of the few devs who actually made decent games on the N64.
Going back to the initial reply though, the N64 either had great titles made by a small number of devs and Nintendo/Rare themselves, or were ass. People who defend the N64 forget the shit-dripping ass and focus only on the oiled tits.
You haven't stated a single thing that dissuades from that statement.
>>338071716
I get the feeling you don't actually know the condition of Nintendo as a business.
>>338070439
> but just like steam greenlight, opening the floodgates allows a lot of liquid fucking shit to get through
Sure, however the list I gave you has ZERO shitstains. They are all good to excellent games.
I'm still waiting for you top30 N64 games list and see how it compares. But yet again you are too nostalgic about only a handful of games to admit PS1 had at least triple the classics that N64 had
>nintendo 64 was and forever will be Quality over Quantity
Yes I'm sure every nintendo console ever is the best one because you can always pick a small sample of games and declare them superior to equaly good games in larger quantities on other consoles.
I'll say this once more, PS1 had quantity AND quality in that quantity.
I don't get what's the point of this N64/PSX argument. Did you honestly buy every game for a console? There's more good ones for either one than you'd reasonably ever buy due to how much they cost.
>>338073030
>buy
>>338061510
Pretty sure Salt and Sanctuary is a timed exclusive.
>>338072670
>You haven't stated a single thing that dissuades from that statement.
That's too bad because Beetle Adventure Racing never got the recognition it deserved, because flew under everybody's radar. You should try it if you can get it cheap and still have a working N64.
That being said, out of every gaming console, the most fun I had personally was with my N64, definitely.
>>338072718
This. I'm sorry dude but the 64 was not a very good console. Almost all their games have aged like milk and only nintendo and rare released good games, while the psx had amazing third party support.
>>338051836
don't they have luigis mansion for d&b?
their food is bad though
>>338056745
A great game that got panned by online neanderthals who parrot the malformed opinions of others.
What's your point?
>>338050938
>Roller coaster
>not F-Zero Bumber Cars
>>338050298
FINALLY!!! BURGERTIME 2!!!
>>338061510
>Halo 5
>>338073479
Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Super Smash Bros.
Bomberman 64
Bomberman Hero
Bomberman 64: The Second Attack Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Jet Force Gemini
Mario Party
Mario Party 2
Mario Party 3
Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
Hybrid Heaven
Mario Kart 64
F-Zero X
Diddy Kong Racing
Paper Mario
Kirby 64
Star Fox 64
Banjo Kazooie
Banjo Tooie
Yoshi Story
Mischief Makers
Sin and Punishment
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
Goemon's Great Adventure
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Snap
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Star Wars Podracers
Star Wars Shadows of the Empire
Pretty good list off the top of my head.
>>338073787
1)Controls are too divisive. There should be an option to disable them for those who heavily dislike them to the point of impacting their enjoyment of the game. Game got rightfuly criticized for that
2) Its short as fuck, no excuses here, not with all the delays
2.5) To add salt to the injury (of being short) it has too many gimmick levels. You are always switching up gameplay styles, and the alternatives usually aren't as fun, especially the mini bot sections which add nothing to the game
3) Bosses are all in free mode and are all mindless repetitive shit with the exception of one.
4) It's the 3rd time we see N64's plot. Why did it need to be a callback? Why follow the original THIS closely after 3DS's release already did it? Why not try a new villian, a new story overall or even a reboot? Nah, it's just the same shit again
5) Barely anything to hold you in. No replay value. No multiplayer (MarioGalaxy-style multiplayer doesn't count)
6) 60 dollarinos. Full price retail 3 hour long game. El-Oh-El. Even Ratched which is merely a copy of the old game, much like SFZ, lasts longer and costs $20 less.
Fuck, even NioH, a free fucking demo, lasted longer than SFZ and was more memorable
I could go on with more.
Stop pretending like the controls are the only thing that make the game shit
>>338074771
1.) Controls are fine, you only need to be willing to get better at them as you go, most were not willing. While you can't turn them completely off, switching the mode to "only active while ZL is pressed" makes the game play a lot closer to older Star Fox titles, with a reticle that's constantly centering itself.
2.)Star Fox has always been short, but with the plethora of pathways, unlockable planets, and hidden scenarios in the game, people complaining about length clearly don't understand the focus.
3.) I don't understand the problem with all-range bosses, I'd appreciate if you could elaborate on this criticism.
4.) They redid the plot because Star Fox has been in the shithole for so many years that they felt they had to go back and establish what a Star Fox game was supposed to be, but on new ground.
5)When you consider the pathways, scenarios, all the medals, and the bonus Training Mode missions, there is tons of replay value to be had with the game. This is another criticism I feel is poorly formed, and I don't understand it.
Whether the game is worth 60 dollars, of course, depends on how much you like Star Fox and by extension this type of game. I don't regret my purchase at all, personally.
>>338074749
Ooof, pretty rough there, you just barely made it with some very underwhelming games.
Good try though, especially the various times you padded the list, like the mario party games. Had a laugh
>>338073424
>A 15 year old racing game, featuring 1 type of vehicle, that has been surpassed in every way in the last 15 years.
Of the 304 N64 games that were released in NA/EU, only about a third of those games were worth the price of admission. So, 101 games, which is further dwindled by personal preference towards genre, etc.
So a few dozen games that were excellent by a handful of developers, and somehow this makes for a GREAT system. Did the N64 have good games? Yes. Did it have a more than a couple of handfuls of good games under a wide variety of styles/genre/etc.? Fuck no.
You're overinflating how good the N64 was. It has about the same amount of good games as the VITA.
>>338075521
>I don't like those games so your list is invalid
Every time.
>>338074749
34 good games for an entire system.
That's pathetic.
>>338075773
>Did the N64 have good games?
The best games. That's the difference.
>>338075942
To be fair, that's like triple the library of the Wii U.
>>338061510
>vita games
>timed exclusives
Ow, the reach
>>338075474
1.) Controls are fine
You simply can't say that when they are the very first point of contention about the game. It's straight up denialism when soooo many people completely hate them to the point of ruining their experience even though they wanted to love it
Nintendo should have had a no montion controls option. Simple as that. Win-win. You could keep the shit controls while everyone enjoys the rest of the mediocre game without terrible handeling on top.
Splatoon had amazing motion controls, MUCH better implemented and less gimmicky than starfox and even then they are optional, which is always a must.
>but with the plethora of pathways, unlockable planets, and hidden scenarios in the game, people complaining about length clearly don't understand the focus.
But it's short EVEN with the pathways added.
Being short is not a "focus" what the fuck does that even mean?
With all the delays, and TWO DECADES after the original simple game people expected more. Levels like SFZ's don't require a lot of development time, there could have been double or triple.
It's like playing a mario game, getting to the end of World 1 and the game ends there. "Oh its the focus of mario, notice the excellent level design, very focused indeed, why didn't you enjoy the plethora of levels and secret paths in World 1 ?"
StarFoxZero doesn't live in a StarFox vacuum. More games came since, replay value and longevity has risen quite a bit. SFZ didn't catch up with the times, simple as that.
>I don't understand the problem with all-range bosses
They all feel same-y and fall into hit-the-weakpoint Zelda-style bosses, but that's to be expected. I wanted more on-rails bosses, ANY on-rails boss.
>they felt they had to go back and establish what a Star Fox game was supposed to be
That could be done with a new plot, a new villian at least. But no everything is recycled.
>5)
dude you are just adding words to what in the end translates to a couple extra hours of replayability
>>338076421
Sony-exclusives include vita games, yes. Where in that image do you read "PS4 exclusives"?
>timed exclusives
Again, where in that image do you read "contractual permanent exclusivity blood ritual signed by Sony and the dev's Soul"? It says "releases" not "forever and ever and always mine"
As of day1 of release, it was only available to sony consoles. That's it. It says and implies nothing else.
>>338076042
Oh God that delusion. The N64 has three games that can be considered absolutely top tier for that generation.
You're overinflating so much that if you don't stop soon you'll receive casting calls to star in Fat Princess The Movie.
>>338076519
>replay value and longevity has risen quite a bit.
Not really. Most games just take on a multiplayer that people will one try once like Fear 3. Replay value took a big hit during the 7th gen.
>>338076052
Well, the WiiU IS shit.
>>338050298
Well Sony is more interested in making bad movies and Microsoft is more interesting in burning their money in the furnace called Xbox, so it's not really that farfetched.
Video games were a mistake. The revival was a mistake. Everything in this world was a mistake.
>>338077080
>The N64 has three games that can be considered absolutely top tier for that generation.
Without trying, Mario 64, OOT, Perfect Dark, and Banjo makes an easy 4. So you're already wrong there.
Really, in terms of raw quality only the PC was a match. If you didn't have either you were missing out.
>>338076519
I believe the controls are fine because of all the reviews I've seen bashing them, what happened is that the reviewer went in skeptical solely because of the words "motion controls", ended up hating them by the second or third mission, and bumrushed a single path so they could give the game a score and THEN shat on the length as if they have any idea what they're talking about. Then, a bunch of morons who never even played the game for themselves picked up those opinions and spouted them everywhere online for the biggest memefest I've seen surrounding a game.
Meanwhile, at around 12 hours into the game, I still have another zone left undiscovered and only about half of the game's medals. I have not even touched Training Missions or Arcade Mode, and the rest of the medals are gonna run me up a solid 5 hours or so more than likely. Completionist said he spent over 40 hours on the game in total. Maybe you wouldn't be bothered to play all the content, and maybe the game might still be "short" to some, but this "3 HOURS" shit needs to end.
Everything else you said is subjective. I don't mind the all-range bosses or the recycled plot, but I guess I'm willing to overlook those details for more high-flying fun. I do wanna say, however, that all-range Attack Carrier was my absolute most favorite moment of the game.
>>338051410
sounds like /v/ but just replace "make" with "play" or "talk about"
>>338077501
Is that you, Andrew Hill?
>>338077141
Don't know what you're talking about
I've clocked in 37 hours into Alienation, a 19€ indie game
I've clocked in almost 100 hours and I'm still playing GundamBreaker3
I completed my first playthrough of DaS3 in 70 hours and will go back to it at least once more.
And like I mentioned before, I clocked in 6 hours into NioH's demo, the same time I spent with SFZ which cost me 45€ more.
These are all games released in the past month.
I'm not sure where you get your idea of less longevity from. Even a game I avoid like the plague like Uncharted4 (I heard) lasts 10 to 12 hours and I know it has replay value with the slow motion and visual unlocks. Not to mention it has multiplayer on top.
Even the most generic linear cinematic game lasts longer and has more modes than SFZ. It's just sad
>>338061510
A lot of those games are pretty mediocre or are for die hard fans of a genre/ip
The only game on that list that everyone should play is Earth Defense Force 4 and it came out in the important parts of the world last year. The other 3 or 4 that every one should play aren't even out.
>>338078024
>I'm not sure where you get your idea of less longevity from.
By playing games. Even gave an example. Play enough games and you'll see that most aim for 6 to 12 hours.
>>338055224
I actually think it's brilliant.
>>338055568
I mostly agree, but the quantity of titles was too small. For every great game on the N64, there were three on the PS, most of which didn't depend on multiplayer.
>>338060983
Oh hey, that's cool. I didn't know the origin of those objects. (You can get them in AC:NL)
>>338055727
The Sega thing still confuses me. They really could have been in the Play Station's position i they hadn't had such a horrible corporate culture.
>>338078965
yes, you gave me an example of a game released literally half a decade ago
I gave you 3 examples from this previous month
I have a hard time thinking of short games released at full price. I'm sure they are out there but there are certenaly many long lasting games too
It's been a long ass time since I have played a game that lasted less than 30 hours (without getting into irrelevant padded grinding like unlocking medals and whatnot). I could go full autismo and list every game I bought this year, starting with Dragon'sDogma in january, and see how much I clocked into them but I'll spare the trouble
>>338055792
Why are Zelda fans so cancerous? Is it the women?
>>338055858
Instead of partial countries?
>>338077501
I actually still HAVE all three.
Ocarina of Time? I enjoyed Castlevania: Symphony of the Night more.
Mario 64? It was very good, but got old FAST.
Perfect Dark? A good game...for a console FPS.
Banjo Kazooie? Doesn't compare to Suikoden II, Vagrant Story, MGS, Valkyrie Profile, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Legend of Dragoon, Mega Man X series, Silent Hill, Resident Evil series, Xenogears, either Oddworld, the Final Fantasy's, Ridge Racer 4, Gran Turismo 2, Fear Effect 2...
>>338055528
Depends. Do you like autists or children?
>>338079935
If you're locked into a new debate concerning the relative longevity of games in the market, are you content to leave >>338077556 where it is and allow me to enjoy Star Fox Zero as one of my favorite entries in the series?
Nintendo already does and has for awhile made Medical Equipment.
Just because they are going into these new businesses, doesn't mean it's going to have anything to do with their video game IP's.
I doubt whatever restaurants they own will be Mario themed. It's not like they turned the Miami Dolphins into the Miami Zeldas when they bought them
>>338077501
>Really, in terms of raw quality only the PC was a match. If you didn't have either you were missing out.
>>338079887
A lot of it was the fault of Bernie Stoler. He cock-blocked a TON of quality games from leaving Japan, murdered Working Designs as a company, and murdered the SEGA Saturn outside Japan.
>>338057341
you gotta be a die hard fan to eat shit desu senpai
>>338049665
Super mario love hotels would be cool.
Does anyone else feel like twitter is in another fucking langauge? I honestly have no idea what I'm reading half the time.
>>338050885
Their hardware is shit. The quicker they go third party the better
>>338080720
Was he the "no RPGs" guy?
>>338080872
Using twitter as a plattform is beyond me, too. How can anyone think it's a reliable source of information by limiting every message by 140 characters, which is good enough for attention whoring girls and posting pictures of their fucking meals, but not for announces or leaking any sort of real information.
>>338080864
Until you get stuck in the Luigi room.
Plungers. Plungers EVERYWHERE.
>>338081102
Yup. Among other things.
>>338057341
Most because people are sick of NoA fucking shit up everywhere.
>>338051134
The fuck is SNK?
>Maybe let a westerner become president for once because the old japanese guys who run this company clearly don't know what the fuck they are doing.
lmfao
>>338049665
They sing this song about health devices before each new console. They're full of shit. Don't believe they're doing anything but making shitty hardware no one wants to develop for.
>>338080434
I'm not content to leave it there, no.
A lot of what you mentioned is padding like medal hunting or time trials. It's not really new content you are experiencing. It's still a short game.
Just the same I refuse to believe anyone who says MGS5 Ground Zeros was a good value for the money. It was a 2hour-long campaign with a lot of side-shit (8 or 10 extra missions with secret unlocks and all that jazz, and the secret loli rape audio tapes to discover)
Thing is, the core is still only 2 to 3 hours long, and everything else doesn't add new enough things to warrant the overpriced release.
SFZ feels like a MGS:GZ to me. The core experience is way too short and the only way to begin to justify the price is to get into "side"-content.
I platinum'd Bloodborne. I played ~900 hours of that game but I won't pretend like it's anything above a 40 to 70 hour experience depending on what optional content people miss or choose to do.
The core of the game, the meat of it, is what counts the most. If you play it for much longer good for you, you loved it. But that doesn't mean that in general people will play that long. You need to understand that aspect and not be surprised when people legitimately explored all the non-padded content there is in 4 to 6 hours.
I completely understood how to work with SFZ's motion controls, I'm not bad at all at the game (it's not hard to begin with) but that doesn't mean I, and many other people, enjoyed it enough to get into medals and all that little stuff.
With that logic almost every game lasts 400 hours, all you have to do is achievement hunting and voilÃ
>>338050885
Xbox One is a money pit and the Sony corporation is on life support. Nintendo is a canary for the counsel industry and their brand alone will always attract investors. If Nintendo is out of the council business, then it's because there is no council business.
And this is coming from some one who bailed on Nintendo for a play station.
>they want to be the disney of vidya
If they keep going like they're doing right now they're going to become the sega of vidya.
>>338052560
What if NX is like a game console/easy bake oven hybrid? Genius!
>>338081805
But the Training Missions actually are new content? Complete with their own set of medals and everything. And yeah a lot of people could go "LOL MEDALS" but I'm the type of person who likes to 100% games that I particularly enjoy, and I love little things in games that allow you to set goals like that. It just speaks to me, personally.
As for Bloodborne, I think it's clear that we're not gonna see eye to eye because I found myself bored enough with Bloodborne's build variety and optional content that I dropped it about a quarter of the way through my third playthrough. Considering the replay value that the other Souls games are famous for, I found it to be an underwhelming experience, personally.
So it comes down to what you consider padded content or not, or what content appeals to you and what doesn't, but I'm of the mind that Star Fox in general is a niche game that takes a certain type of person to enjoy, and if that's true then Star Fox Zero certainly is. If you can't buy the game on the good faith that you'll enjoy the core gameplay enough to experience every piece of content and every challenge the game has to offer, it's probably a game you shouldn't buy and I think a lot of reviewers scored it unfairly because it ran contrary to their tastes.
>>338082579
ever notice you're the only one defending this piece of garbage?
>>338049665
>They still haven't learned their lesson
Almost feel like I mind end up disliking Nintendo more than Microsoft at some point.
>>338083316
>implying they won't be way better off financially if they have other ventures besides dying console and handheld markets
>>338083496
Those other ventures don't benefit me at all.
I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE VIDEO GAMES.
>>338082579
>Star Fox in general is a niche game that takes a certain type of person to enjoy
m8, you're literally using the "it's an aquired taste!" argument to defend a game with demonstrably bad controls. No other major Star Fox game had this problem.
>>338049665
Hence the saying, "It's only acceptable when Nintendo does". if this decision were made by anyone in vidya industry, Nintendogaf - /v/ will mock and ridicule them
>>338084040
>Nintendogaf - /v/
don't be sloppy
>>338083575
this
>>338082579
>If you can't buy the game on the good faith
There are very, very few companies left in this industry that merit the benifit of the doubt buying their games on good faith. Nintendo isn't one of them.
>>338054083
>>Asia
its sony and pc dumb ass
>>338049665
It was only a matter of time. This is they only way they're gonna stay big in today's climate.
>>338052560
That doesn't guarantee good games
>>338084354
Where do these anti Nintendo feelings come from? Yeah, they fucked up badly with the gimmick shit, but if any one company is know for its quality, wouldn't it be Nintendo?
>>338060534
>Get ready for Nintendo to become yet another fuckhuge conglomerate
no it wouldnt, unless somehow they can sells their shits cheaper than wallmart and mcd
why is nintendo so out of touch?
all they have to do is graphics and video games and they'd be rolling back in dough
i don't understand why they feel the need to continue to do gimmicky bullshit
>>338084631
Wii U droughts
Recent NoA localization
Lack of certain IP usage
Paper Mario Sticker Star
Federation Force
Casualized Zelda
TRANSFORMATION
>>338084631
>Where do these anti Nintendo feelings come from?
Region locking and localization policies for a start.
Look, I'm not saying Nintendo is the worst company in the industry, but they're certainly nowhere even close to being good enough to buy games from strictly based on good faith.
>if any one company is know for its quality, wouldn't it be Nintendo?
I genuinely feel sorry for you if you actually believe this.
>>338070439
NINTEDU INVENT ANYTHING,PRAISE NINTENDU ALL HAIL IWATA
>>338084991
>>338085083
Valid points.
>>338084985
They got drunk off the Wii's success. Everything since then has been Nintendo trying to recapture the casual audience. They barely give a shit anymore about their fanbase pre-Wii era.
>>338083071
Except I'm not. I'm in the minority, but we're a minority who have actually, you know...Played the game and gave it an honest chance. Also
>The majority can't be wrong!
Sure you wanna go with that angle?
>>338083817
>demonstrably bad controls
No.
Basically: fuck you I liked it.
>>338085875
>we're a minority who have actually, you know...Played the game and gave it an honest chance
This is typical paradoxal fanboy logic used to discredit anyone who could have possibly disliked an unpopular game.
Anyone who didn't like it must not have played it.
Anyone who played it and still didn't like it didn't give it an honest chance.
In your eyes Star Fox is literally infalliable.
Basically: You're a drone.
>diversifying = doom
You are delusional if you think a Nintendo theme park will not ta
>>338087274
ANON NO
>>338086465
Sidestepping the issue with a healthy dose of ad hominem, typical of this shithole.
I'm going by what I've seen from the laughably pathetic reviews, and all of the mongoloids who are parroting those reviews though they've never played the game. Or are you gonna tell me those "reviews" by Polygon and Yahtzee and others like them are justifiable?
From my perspective, you're the drone, going out of your way to shit on something you know nothing about because other people do the same.
>>338087274
Take in cash*
>>338083817
>you're literally using the "it's an aquired taste!" argument to defend a game with demonstrably bad controls.
>but it's ok when From does it!
Like a clockwork
>>338087643
Literally no mention of From in that post You delusional fucktard
>>338087469
Your entire argument is ad hominem you hypocritical inbred fucktard.
Accusing a person of not playing it or saying didn't give it an honest chance is literally an ad hominem argument. Read the last sentence of your post for fucks sake.
>NO U
You're obviously too far gone to listen to reason. I'm glad you can fight hopelessly on /v/ in misery, it suits you
A video game company that is no longer interested in making video games, quite sad. All the elementary schoolers play shit on their iPads these days. They like Minecraft and whatever microtransaction bullshit of the month is out. Nintendo isn't the surrogate mother it was in the 90s. Wii was a one off, mom's aren't going to buy it again. They'll just stick to running on the treadmill while watching.
Nintendo is on a fiery path of self-destruction in North America. Purposefully alienating and ignoring the people who actually want to buy their products for a demographics that just don't exist anymore. The best thing we can hope for is that Nintendrones will have an epiphany, realize that Nintendo is dead, and give them a speedy death and/or wake up call.
It's been nothing but straight garbage, remakes, reboots, rehashes, and spinoffs the past 3 years from Nintendo.
>>338089345
I'm not in misery. The whole point I'm trying to make is that I'm enjoying the game, I know for a fact plenty of other people are enjoying the game, and I know there's absolutely NOTHING you pessimistic squawking shitstains with all of your memes can do to change that.
Satisfaction enough for me.
>>338089727
>they want to do other things, so that means they don't want to make videogames anymore
You're a retard.
>>338049665
>Still trying to do the quality of life shit
OH WAIT, THE X IN NX MEANS X-RAY!
>>338068175
>Devil May Cry
>Final Fantasy X
>Metal Gear Solid 2
>Devil May Cry
>games that have aged like the finest of wines and continue to be remade and inspire new games
holy fuck, what a time to be a gamer.
>>338090280
>they're diverting capital, resources, and staff to other endeavours
>implying the core demographic won't continue to suffer as a result
>"you're a retard"
nope, just have post-2nd grade understanding of how businesses work.
>>338074749
>Mario Golf
>Mario Tennis
>Pokemon Snap
>both Pokemon Stadium games
>Mario Party
>>338091281
How cute. Except you're missing the part where Nintendo has a ton of cash and they can hire the appropriate people to do that and none of their internal studios will even know that's going on nor will their work be altered in any shape or form, so yeah, you're a retard.
>>338051353
>YOU'VE GOT BOOST POWERBut at the end we will get a shitty skinned gokarts ala nintnendoland
>>338091575
Because Nintendo has had such a prolific first party output recently lately?
Hope you're happy with your shelf of amiibos you delusional manlet.
>>338093129
That has nothing to do with anything here, you retard. They literally said they're working on NX games.
>>338090215
>lalalala I won't listen to reason
You're delusional m8
They don't call 'em Nintendrones for nothin!
>>338096004
>phone poster
>>338049665
>medical and health devices
this reeks of yakuza-style scams.
>>338082381
>>they want to be the disney of vidya
>If they keep going like they're doing right now they're going to become the sega of vidya.
Gonna leave this here
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/04/business/sega-takes-aim-at-disney-s-world.html?pagewanted=all
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