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Who are you maining, /v/?
Who /greenskinMasterRace/ here?
Discuss lore, gameplay, and skellies.
>only 7 days left
>I can still remember watching the announcement trailer months and months agoHNGGGGGGG SO CLOSE
>>338000876
Can you believe it, friendo? A little week and we'll be going to war with out favorite races.
>>338000509
I want to play greenskins, but the vamps have some rad mechanics. Tough choice. Though, I haven't seen any chaos gameplay yet.
>people are excited about a Total War game after the giant dump that was Rome II
Is anyone ITT seriously NOT maining Chaos?
>>338001181
See here and be made pure, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKv4A0GA3Qw
>>338000509
*please dont be rome 2: warhammer*
Having never played a warhammer game of any type.
Would this be a good jumpoff point?
>>338001238
>>338001289
Different engine gentlemen, different engine.
>>338001349
You would not be lost in this game.
According to the the gameplay demonstrations and stuff, there seems to be a lot of lore integrated. And you'll get to see a lot of the armies up close, so you won't feel lacking there.
medieval 3 when
I can't wait to spend buckets of money before getting all the armies.
>>338001507
I too wish for this.
>>338000509
havent been following this games development as much as i should have
are skaven in?
>>338001679
Lizardmen would be ballin'. I'd love me some edgelord-elves too though.
>>338001769
Nope. Another race for DLC I assume. Chaos is on the house now though.
>>338001480
Thanks. Ill probably end up getting it then.
>>338001238
>look I posted it again!
>>338001274
We're not underage, so no.
That being said, fuck off kiddo. No brats allowed here
>>338002374
I can sense your erectile dysfunction through the screen.
>>338001769
Game is getting 3 installments, CA confirmed all factions with rulebooks will be getting releases.
Probably maining VC until the inevitable Dark Elf DLC. I play DE on tabletop, so I know their units pretty well.
Just hoping for the Fap Chariot for VCs.
>>338000509
Greenskins and Empire. But if the game is good I'll probably play through the game with every faction.
>>338000509
The lore seems all fucked up. I've never played a Total War game, but I've played WHFB (and Orcs & Goblins at that) for years. Why are Grimgor and Azhag running around at the same time?
Honestly I'm probably going to hold off playing it since none of the races I want are in yet, but everything looks like they're building off the positives of Attila so looks good.
who dwarven gunlines here?
>>338002824
its because TW:WH is supposed to be timeless instead of following a historical pattern where time progresses.
>>338003360
Mein Negro.
Anyone here going to be spamming gyrobombers for that sweet vietnam experience?
>>338006710
I'm all about that Goblin Bomber life. Re-enact WWII, for historical purposes of course.
>Bretonnia multiplayer only
Campaign bretonnia DLC confirmed
I want high elves, but they're across the ocean and navies don't seem to be a thing in this, so I doubt the future race planned is them.
The fact that there are people right now who don't want to raze the old world with 3 full stack of orcs is confusing for me
Every army led by a Warboss on a Wyvern with a trusty set of shamans to buff the front lines
Giants, Trolls, and Boar Boys barreling through the enemy lines and into the chewy ranged center
Then a massive horde of Orc Boyz with elites peppered around to grind the enemy into a fine paste
All the while goblin bowmen harass the flanks and a few fanatics appear to give the enemy a nasty surprise
>>338000962
For only an additional $19.99units not included :^)
I really hope this game does well and GW goes "Huh, maybe we should let them do a 40k TW."
Not gonna happen, but I can get my hopes up. Replace naval with space battles and boom, you have 40k TW.
looking at the gameplays the unit designs look like a colorful mess of shit. unit graphics took a huge step back.
>People in this thread want MORE factions
We're getting dwarves, hummies, Orks, Chaos and you people STILL want more? Fuck off, game isn't even released and you cunts already want to ruin the balance it has going for it. This isn't Street Fighter 5 or Overwatch that is releasing as is with bare bones content and hoping hype carries it through. Game has dozens of gameplay videos, lands, maps, cities and more.
This might be a case of being entitled this one time.
>>338008309
I just want wandering beastmen with horde mechanics to spawn constantly to slow down early expansion in the game.
>>338008309
WHERE'S MY FUCKING SKAVEN. WHY DID GREENSKINS GET IN WHEN THEY'RE JUST A BUNCH OF DUMB APES STUCK IN A CONSTANT CIVIL WAR
>>338002676
>Dark Elf
My brother!
>>338001376
Hahaha no, it's still warscape. The plus side is it looks like they're continuing the good work they did with Attila after getting their heads on right
>>338007741
You sound like you are of correct mind.
>>338002824
Why should I give a fuck?
>>338008309
>balance
Who. The fuck. Cares?
I cannot fathom who plays TW games for the balance of it. It'll be a mess because it's always a fucking mess.
But that's part the reason it feels so good when you overcome incredible odds.
>>338008517
Because time was limited so they went with the most popular races to ensure they got most of the fan boys. Sorry that even in video games, you're picked last but we can't all be winners and winners aren't losers.
>>338000509
>tfw 750 ti
>tfw probably can't run it for shitThis was supposed to be a temporary replacement, goddamn it.
>>338000509
I was going to pirate this because fuck buying a total war game at launch
>>338008309
Look they're going with releasing fewer faction but fleshing them out more and that's fine, but I really don't care about any of the factions they're letting through the gates first
>entitled
I know you can be a better person than this
>>338008926
You can probably run it on the lowest if you don't mind console-frames?
>>338009097
>I know you can be a better person than this
I'm not so sure anymore.
>>338002595
There will be 3 Total War Warhammer games or 3 large expansions?
>>338009097
>I know you can be a better person than this
Sorry, it's just that being outrageous and offending seems to be the only way to discuss this game and while I may not have ill intentions, I'm happy the game is releasing next week and would like to discuss everything about it, even if it isn't in a positive atmosphere.
>>338008926
The 760 is the recommended gpu for high preset at ~45fps so you shouldn't be in that bad of shape.
>>338009284
3 standalone titles that combine into one giant campaign.
>no Tomb Kings
>>338001376
It's an upgraded version of Warscape, an engine that should have been scrapped in 2010 but has somehow dragged along.
I havent heard shit about this game and know nothing about it.
Is like Dawn of war or something?
>>338009565
They're coming in the next expansion.
>>338009630
Don't worry, the engine still works
>>338009658
How convenient that they released this video not even 24 hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUW0UJWpfUQ
>>338009565
good
>>338009658
no, it's total war with a warhammer skin
>>338009658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUW0UJWpfUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1p7d_nVBS8
I was just watching the vids they have on topics and more to keep in touch with things to keep an eye out for.
I didn't choose the dwarf life, the dwarf life chose me.
As an aside, thank Christ they started making this game before Age of Sigmar became a thing.
>>338009565
>he wants Tombfags
There's a reason you people aren't welcome anywhere.
I haven't been keeping track, are vampire counts a playable race? or at least confirmed for dlc?
>>338009803
Man, that trailer is awesome.
>>338009989
yes, right out of the box
>>338009807
That looks pretty fucking neat, seems like match of some sort of civ game overworld with other strategy games involved inside.
If i can play as a skeleton race, i will pre-order this shit
CHAOS MASTER RACE
>>338010083
That's pretty dope, I'll probably get it then
I'm going to wait for the reviewson /v/before I buy, but I really do have high hopes for this.
>>338009803
This makes the game look a lot more complicated than it is.
>>338009658, you should know that a lot of what this trailer talks about can be automate, and auto-resolved, if there are some aspects you don't like.
>>338010143
You can. You can play as the Vampire C(o)unts, who are big on necromancy and skellingtons. You'll leave the battlefield with a bigger force than when you came, if you play it right.
>>338010143
Skeletons are the backbone of the Vampire Counts.
>>338010349
>>338010372
Bullshit
If i can do that, it means that i finally found the game i was looking for since i played Diablo 2 where i wanted a army of skelibros to dominate towns and fuck shit up rising the dead.
>>338000509
I'll play as chaos desu, horde factions are a great deal of fun, and surprisingly orks are not a horde
>>338000509
>they allow mods
So fucking happy
>>338010443
Perhaps I should have opened with this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T-omKwUOIU
Where my Dwarfs at?
>>338010490
Chaos is the only true way to roll. All these Imperialfags will meet my blade soon enough.
Who the fuck plays fucking Imperials anyway? It's a fantasy game. Not generic history shit.
>>338010443
The spellcasters literally get a spell which raises the dead right there an then. And the main meat of your army comes from raising the dead from ancient graves or battlefields. If the area you're in was the location of a big battle, more corpses to raise.
Skeletons, zombies, skeleton lords, skeleton horses, zombie dragons, crypt ghouls, even more skeletons.
>>338010443
check their twitch channel for vampire count gameplay. It might be what you're looking for
>>338010532
/v/ introduced me to Shogun 2 and I loved it. I almost, almost bought Rome 2 but since I'm not a huge RTS fan, I usually wait for a price drop. Sticking to my morals saved me from getting butt fucked by Rome 2 and all the fiasco that followed it. Even so, I'm taking the dive this time with Total Warhammer. I like RTS, I like Warhammer, I'm 80% certain the footage we're getting is what the actual game will be so it's a win/win for me.
I'll get it on GMG for a hefty discount too.
>>338010619
>>338010770
>>338010787
>mfw thought the entire video
Yup, i just got hyped and preorder it, this is literally the game i was asking for since i was 12
God damn i cant wait
>>338010734
>not wanting to play as normal humans, surviving against all of the hellish monsters and superhuman races of a fantasy world
>>338010707
Right here brother, right here! You got your book and your ink ready for some names?
But isn't it Sigmarines now?
Why are they still pushing the old Warhammer Fantasy meme?
>>338011208
Cause AoS is fucking cancer
I've never given a fuck about Warhammer Fantasy, but I do appreciate that it's getting some love.
>>338010924
Technically there's 2 factions that use skeletons. Vampire counts and the Tomb Kings.
The Tomb Kings are literally just Skeleton Egypt. They use NOTHING but skeletons. Their entire army is fucking skeletons. No Zombies, no fancy ghouls. Skeletons. Even skeletons anubis, skeleton horses, skeleton lizards and even giant fucking skeleton cobras. All with a sprinkling of Egypt.
I really like that they seem to be taking a more roleplaying focused narrative with this game.
I always love playing a wicked king or a peasant lord in these games, and I enjoy that they seem to accommodate that.
>>338011276
From my googling searches so far, it seems that that skeleton faction is going to be some sort of DLC or mod right?
>>338010924
There's even talk of a second skelly-faction called the Tomb Kings for the upcoming expansion.
>>338011276
Most of their bestial units aren't skeletons.
>>338011475
They are probably going to be one of the major faction in one of the expansions.
>>338011492
not in this universe
>>338011475
They're making 3 big expansions, all will most likely have 3+ races in them. The stand-alone expansions will work with previously-bought expansions, so it'll all come together to let every race clash on the fields.
Tomb Kings are heavily implied to be in the first expansion.
So is there even diplomacy in this game? I always loved the diplomatic layer of TW but here it seems extraneous, only 2 of the 5 factions are even capable of proper diplomacy.
>>338011579
Not him, but how does that work? I thought Tomb Kings were canon for Warhammer fantasy?
>>338011607
>They're making 3 big expansions
Only if you count the first game as one of those expansions.
>>338011682
He's joking. They got cut when GW rebooted the series with Age of Sigmar.
>>338010924
you also get ugly vamp chicks with big tits
>>338011681
There IS diplomacy, see the "What is Total Warhammer" video for a quick peak.
Though I don't think that's the real focus of this game.
I don't know though, but I know it hasn't been spoken of much so I wouldn't expect it to be an infinitely promising aspect. Like you said, I don't see the orcs being too diplomatic, and the skellies don't need diplomacy as all that ends when you go in the grave anyway, so why bother?
I've been wrong before though.
>>338011841
that's all I've ever wanted
>>338011773
Oh, thanks for the answer. I'm not any good at this lore-stuff, but I'm still hyped as hell for this game.
>Age of Sigmar
I keep hearing that no one likes this, but what's wrong with it? Is it the progression of the timeline, or the re-writing of the races or something?
>>338011841
>ugly
I will fight you
>>338011841
>he doesn't like cute vampires
Leave now, greenskin.
>>338011841
Preorder confirmed
>>338010707
I can't wait to retake the mountains and the lands with dwarfbros.
We are the only correct choice.
>inb4 mad orcfags
>>338011970
Literal fucking cancer. Best you not know about it.
>>338011970
It essentially tore up everything about Warhammer Fantasy, and threw it in the bin to start over from scratch. With the main human faction having a striking resemblance to Space Marines from 40k, hence the nickname Sigmarines.
No one wanted it, no one likes it. And the rulebook on release was fucking stupid and half written.
>>338011970
It's just the worst thing ever. All shit all the time. The less you know the better. Just be glad the game isn't based on it.
>Warhammer Total War 2 in 2025 will be Age of Sigmar shit
>>338011841
>ugly vamp chick
Spotted the dwarflet.
>>338001238
But anon Atilla was good.
>>338012348
Maybe the new CEO will have unfucked AoS by then.
>>338012412
I don't know man, I don't think there's much saving AoS.
>>338010707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJsG4F2Img
Anyone that isn't playing a Dwarf is playing is wrong.
>>338012348
>>338012412
The slight change to a new direction with the most recent AoS stuff gives me hope that they might be TRYING to make it less awful.
Sounds like they're going to start shifting things.
>>338011962
>>338011993
>>338012034
>>338012052
>>338012404
>all these (you)s
calm down waifufags, I have nothing against vampires, but her face is goofy and massive honkers dont make up for that
Where my Ogre boys at?
>>338012873
I would love a full ogre army. But the way the game handles them I don't think we'll see them beyond individual "large creatures".
Until mods.
Mods may fix that.
>>338012995
I fear you'll be right.
but I just want to play an army of fat fucks, and eat and kill my way through the old kingdoms.
>>338012995
Low upkeep, 60 in an group.
Or is that too insane? Fuck it.
>>338010861
Rome 2 is pretty good with empire edition. It took them a year to fix it, but its solid now. You should pick it up when its on sale.
>>338000509
>not calling it Total Warhammer
>>338013181
I still think it's a missed opportunity but muh brand name
>>338013050
>army of fat fucks, and eat and kill my way through the old kingdoms
Have you heard the good news, brother? Orc exist.
>>338012683
>change to a new direction
>Elves witches replaced by males
>Black Warpriests
>Elves looks like Eldars
>Zero setting detalization
>Iron Horde
>Sounds like they're going to start shifting things.
GW, please
>>338013181
>marketing
If it's one thing these people have proved it's that they don't know how to sell ice cream in Sahara.
![Ogre-Kingdoms-Time-For-a-Little-Magic[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0NnUkCZ.jpg "Ogre-Kingdoms-Time-For-a-Little-Magic[1]")
>>338013274
Yeah nah, not even close.
>>338013323
This sounds awful. I feel for WH-fantasyfags.
Going with Dworf on first playthrough.
Runesmiths > Magic users
why not just play the tabletop?
>>338013849
>Runesmiths
I cannot fucking wait to fill your halls with green goodness.
>>338013928
>playing ded games
>>338013928
Because the tabletop is AoS-shit?
>>338013928
Because the tabletop has gone to shit over the years and is a very different thing.
>>338013928
Why would I pay hundreds if not thousands of bucks for models I then have to glue sloppily, and fail to paint, when I can play a game where all the shit is done for me?
I'm so fucking glad we get a fantasy game without elves for fucking once.
>>338014358
They're around. Just not n the game right now. Three fucking elf flavors
>>338014423
Wait, three? There's high, and dark, but what's the third one?
>>338011970
>keep hearing that no one likes this, but what's wrong with it? Is it the progression of the timeline, or the re-writing of the races or something?
Don't mind the anons who responded to you, they are liars.
What happened is that the End Times happened and Archaon bitch slapped everyone and destroyed the World.
Age of Sigmar is the continuation of the univeres's story that takes place in the Mortal Realms which are vast reality spanning realms that were born from the old world's winds of Magic. The survivors from the old world settled there and lived happily for many thousands of years until Chaos once again found them.
>>338014874
Oh, so what happened was essentially that the old Warhammer Fantasy stuff essentially "concluded", and Age of Sigmar is essentially the next chapter.
But now, purists are enraged because the portrayal of their favored races aren't the same as they used to be?
Is that about right?
The only thing that doesn't just sound like fanboyism is that I can kinda' see where all the people who bought the old models are coming from.
Like it'd suck to buy 10k orcs only for GW to "lol, not cannon and won't be supported/played anymore!". That rage I can kinda' see.
>>338013323
>>Elves witches replaced by males
The shards are not Witch Elves. They don't worship Khaine.
The Khainate Cults are still a thing in AoS and they are mostly womyn.
>Black Warpriests
Nothing wrong with that unless you are a racist.
Most of the humans in the realms worship Sigmar. Having a black person worship Sigmar is no big deal unless you are a racist.
>>Elves looks like Eldars
Not really. People just freak out about the Saih's mask.
The rest of the Aelf desgins that popped up pretty Fey.
>>Zero setting detalization
Lies.
Each release details more of the world. They steadily building the universe via books and novels.
>>Sounds like they're going to start shifting things.
We getting points and a new global campaign. GET HYPE!
does anyone give a shit about fantasy warhammer units and lore? all the memes I see are about 40k
One thing I really like about Warhammer, fantasy and 40k, is that there don't seem to be any clearly GOOD guys.
Hell, even the Vampire Cunts are fighting because they feel that death shouldn't be prevention from succession to the throne. And that's not really evil in one sense. Though I will admit that they're probably pretty close to it.
Chaos just want's chaos, and even orcs can be said to be fulfilling their base needs. Not because they're cruel or evil, but because it's what they're around to do.
>>338015158
>Is that about right?
Yep.
>I can kinda' see where all the people who bought the old models are coming from.
No, you can't.
GW updated the rules of the old models and they are playable in the new system. The rules are free only.
Nearly everything is canon and playable.
>>338015193
>Iron Horde
Ironjawz are cool and very Orky.
>>338015214
Of course people do. 90% of this thread is shitposting about why Skaven can't be in the campaign because they're so geographically far away.
>>338015370
Free online*
>>338015370
Oh, I did not know that about all models being usable. So it's just fanboyism then, and they should just try to deal with it instead of whining?
I also overused the word "essentially" in my last post, so sorry about that.
2 developer-made mods going to launch with the game. Removing region occupation, aka you can occupy all lands. The other splits legendary lords into their own factions, they said this is for co-op campaign so 2 people playing Empire can have their own lord instead of the same one
>>338015370
>>338014874I think Age of Sigmar looks pretty cool and I don't understand why everyone's bitching about it.
>>338015565
probably because its a piece of shit compared to the old fantasy warhammer
>>338015674
I disagree.
It's METAL
>>338015556
I hope they give modders lots of tools and stuff they can use to develop cool shit for the game. But just the fact that mods come with it out of the box is kinda' neat.
>>338015193
Oh great internet defense task force here.
>The shards are not Witch Elves. They don't worship Khaine.
It's still have Witch design.
>The Khainate Cults are still a thing in AoS
Faction with 2 old boxes, yeah very interesting, while all new releases is about naked muscular males.
>Not really. People just freak out about the Saih's mask.
Bitch please, it's just spiritseer with different staff and pose.
>pretty Fey
Since when MtG design becomes a Fey?
>Lies.
Truth, there is no description of societies, states or tribes.
>They steadily building the universe via books and novels.
Irrelevant, just as plabets from 40k BL books, most of them unimpotant and borring as fuck.
>Nothing wrong with that unless you are a racist.
Yeah, I am racist, nice try liberal.
>Most of the humans in the realms worship Sigmar.
And where black people cames from? And why they wear European clothes and using european weapons?
>We getting points and a new global campaign. GET HYPE!
Even with points ruleset is still broken and primitive shit with overpriced models, nah thanks, I probably try X-wing.
>>338015158
That, and the fact that the original rulebook was four (4) pages long, and people STILL managed to find a way to break the game to make it an unplayable mess - something that has yet to be fixed. It's literally borderline-unplayable at the moment.
>>338008309
wow a whole 4 factions!Here's your (You), bastard
>>338015370
>GW updated the rules of the old models and they are playable in the new system.
Too bad that they are all useless against new rules.
>Ironjawz are cool and very Orky.
For 40k.
>>338015730
>It's METAL
It's anime.
>>338016058
>the original rulebook was four (4) pages long
Wait, what? I thought Warhammer rulebooks were usually like 800 pages and explained the rules of leaning slightly to the left in a thunderstorm if it's Tuesday?
Am I wrong?
>>338016157
>Am I wrong?
Yep.
>>338016034
Omg is that you slav?
You shitpost even here. I thought you were banned from /tg/?
L I V I N G O N T H E E D G E B O Y S
>linkin park intesifies
>mfw the two races I play on tabletop are arguably the least popular
>ergo, the least likely to get added to TW:WH
Being Wood Elf and Beastmen is suffering.
>>338016270
GW has already confirmed that canonically, everyone who likes Chaos are homos.
This is news to no one.
>>338016278
>tfw when I was thinking of getting into WHFB with beastmen
>And 40k with SoB
Feel like I dodged two bullets
>>338016146
Shut up, Slav.
I saw you say the exact opposite things in /WHFB/ generals. You are really shameless/
>>338016278
Now hold on. WE isn't as unlikely as you'd think.
A lot of gamers still relate high-fantasy to hippy-elves, so it might not be too far-fetched that they'd try for something like that.
Beastmen are never happening though, unless they want the fur-audience.
>>338016157
You're exaggerating, but they were certainly longer than 4 fucking pages. Especially since there's no army-balancing mechanic, so people can and do make forces comprising 6 of the most powerful named character in the game.
Yes, I do mean the same unique guy 6 times.
>>338016360
Hoh boy, you did miss a couple of bullets there. A friend of mine started playing SoB back when we still liked 40k. His hobby savings dried up before getting a decent sized army.
>>338016372
>I saw you say the exact opposite things in /WHFB/ generals. You are really shameless/
Wut? Dude I stopped visiting /tg/ 3 years ago.
>>338008143
Is this true?
>>338016562
Sure you did, comrade.
>>338016502
This was just when Grey Knights came out for 40k in 3rd edition.
Both armies basically got totally shelved and abandoned, poor fuckers. I went Tau, so I had plenty of support.
Of course I stopped playing 40k and eventually moved on to warmahordes. I love the rules, but there are moments of nostaliga where I miss 40k. Or more accurately I miss the friends I had playing it.
>>338016447
I agree, WE is far more likely than BoC. Unless they add BoC as some different Chaos units. Hell I'd go for a pallet swap:
Gors are marauders
Bestigors as knights
Shamans as sorcerors etc
Are BoC furry? I love them but hate furries.
>>338016458
How does that work? I mean, where's the GW-damage-control team? Like, some guy bought 6 of the same Grand Lord of Awesomeness so that he could kick the ass of anything?
That doesn't sound like much fun.
>>338016713
The GW damage control team is counting their sweet, sweet cash from that one moron buying 6 of the same figure for $100 each
>>338000509
How fucked and Buggy will the game be on release? Will it be as shit as Rome II or Empire?
>>338016781
>sweet cash from that one moron
Well something tells me that there will be more than 1.
>>338016781
That makes me sad within.
>>338016923
Just in that instance.
Oh and Nagash summons skeletons. So you gotta buy an ass ton of skeleton models from GW to play him properly too.
>>338016953
Welcome to games workshop. How can we suck the fun out of your game today?
>>338016876
Probably yeah. And call me a shill, but I kinda' don't mind that with these games. It's part of the charm.
I would never say this of any other game or series, but Total War is usually a broken mess on launch that barely works. It's downright part of the experience to see how phenomenally they fuck up.
Sure it's usually patched in a few days, but it's stupidly funny to see how glitched and fucked these games can be at launch.
>>338016923
>>338016953
>GW
>giving the slightest shit about YOU having fun
>>338010619
so is the carstein guy the rightful heir to the empires throne or something?
>>338015730
Maybe, but it's a very non-traditional fantasy setting similar to Valhalla and in reality is just an attempt of Games Workshop to squeeze every last dime out of tabletop players.
Warhammer Fantasy had more appeal to people because it made immediate sense and was more 'realistic' as far as a fantasy setting can be.
People like to be immersed in their pathetic fantasy world and that's harder when it doesn't make any fucking sense. The fact that they completely destroyed the universe that it's based on gives it a pointless feeling to people as well.
>>338017221
>non-traditional fantasy setting
> What Planescape is
> What Outland is
>>338017210
It's a little up for debate where one's right to rule ends and the next begins, as well as all the steps in between. The royalty-politics of the universe are like GoT on crack, so yeah he has a good claim.
That being said, you kinda' have to be ALIVE, which is an aspect he lacks.
>>338017286
Fantasy settings, but not traditional ones...
>>338017383
>but not traditional ones...
Well actually Lovecraft was one of the founder of traditional fantasy.
>>338016126
better than shogun 2 which was 20 copy pasted factions
greenskin master race,
anyone else playing Return of Reckoning until the game drops
>>338000509
When I found out it wasn't going to be 40k I dropped all interest and you should too
Never played Warhammer but this setting looks like fun. How good is the AI in these games? Is it more or less a joke like the Civ series or can I get a challenge?
>>338017501
And how does that relate? The C'tan are Lovecraft based. How is Age of Sigmar influenced by Lovecraft's version of traditional fantasy? I'm very interested to know.
>buying any total war game on release
Don't do this to yourself. You will regret it.
>>338017761
How do you sustain yourself with that shit taste?
>>338017813
WHFB is shit and tat's why it's dead. Bad lore that made no sense, unbalanced game, and ugly models.
GW dragged WHFB for years at a loss. Nobody wanted to play the game.
I really hope my PC can run it decently
>>338017824
its not quite as easy as civ, since the battles are at least in real time so a completely braindead person will not be able to win, but it is still a bit of a joke, it got marginally better in later titles, but after you play for a bit it wont be much of a challenge
>>338017945
>Bad lore that made no sense
>>338017973
its supposed to be much better optimized than attila (though thats not saying much at all)(
>>338017830
Sleeping Godbeasts and monsters literally made from stars?
Here is a picture of Archaon about to engage a Solar Drake the size of a sun in combat.
With all the dlc its gonna be getting i dont even want to touch it.
>>338008309
>not wanting skaven tomb kings lizards and beastmen
kys this is a singleplayer rts who cares about balance?
>>338018059
>lovecraft
>About slaying 'godbeasts'
Nigger. Lovecrafts whole shtick was how humans are utterly insignificant and of little note to the entire universe and abstract princples that dwelt inside and outside of it. Also his ridiculously over the top racism.
A human chosen champion of the dark gods going around and killing monsters and giant godly beasts is as far from lovecraft as it gets.
>>338017761
>a total war game
>not about the finni-korean hyper war
I dropped it instantly too
>>338018056
The graphics seem toned down quite a bit and more stylized than realistic and there seems to be a lot fewer troops in each of the units, so I believe it. Apparently they also got rid of the matched combat animations to free up memory.
>>338018206
>Also his ridiculously over the top racism.
This meme can we stop?
>>338018206
I mean if the C'tan are Lovecraftian and they have been defeated by mortals before, I guess one can say that Archaon wrestling a celestial dragon as Lovercraftian.
Also Archaon has become an abstract
>Archaon trudged through the black snow. His armoured boots were wrapped in the furs of some barb-skinned beast, the bony spines of which gave the warrior purchase across the frost and ice. The skies raged away above him, spitting and swirling like a ghostly, maddened creature, chasing its own tail. The armour of Morkar, First Everchosen of Chaos scalded his skin with its raw embrace. Archaon could not feel such pain. He wouldn’t allow it. The common miseries of existence were nothing to him now. With every step he took towards a doom of his own making, he became less of a man and more of an idea. An abstraction. A living misery for others to endure. He was not some character in a great tale told. He was the silence after the words. The covers of the tome slammed shut. The crackle of page and ink on the fire. He was the nevermore.
>>338017761
>ever thinking there would be a Total War: 40K
>not liking Fantasy
Are you retarded?
>>338017824
Ramp that shit up to "very hard" and you'll get a good challenge out of it.
>>338018286
Speaking of the graphics, given that there's a million things happening at once (or least, it seems that way to an outsider like me), would the game run well on a semi-decent computer?or rather, a decent laptop?
>>338017858
>not embracing the hype
>not enjoying it, bugs and all
part of the charm of these games is seeing how fucked they are at launch
>>338018535
I don't usually use that word because mt time in /tg/ made me hate it
But.....
YOU DAMN SHILL
>>338018059
I think part of the point of Lovecraft is the nihilism. The old ones aren't really even gods and there's no real magic. Only extremely advanced beings that we don't fully understand.
I'll agree on some superficial level there are similarities, but I you'd be really fucking hard pressed to find someone who would call giant space monsters traditional fantasy. Even if Lovecraft was around at the time he isn't really involved in what we see today as traditional fantasy. The main contributors to it are Tolkien, Arthurian legend, and Northern European myth.
>you will never be a lowly state pikeman having to face down a charge of Orks twice your size.
feels allright
>>338018612
>the old ones aren't really even gods
what
>>338017813
>>338017919
>>338018479
The fantasy setting is even more dull and boring than WoW.
>>338018453
>as Lovercraftian.
Or superheroic, since all Warhammer visuals looks more inspired by DC/Marvel and MMO than fiction or mythology.
>>338017824
If you fight the battles in real time it can be hard. Enemies coming at you with a 20-stack out of no where army and you having to fend off with whatever you have
The worst parts of the games are the sea battles, which won't be in this game, and the siege battles.
>>338001679
>He doesn't just wait to get DLC during steam sales
>Want to play Orks for stronk Giant units
>Want to play Dwarves for stronk artillary and ranged
>Want to play Vampire counts for the obviously OP units they need to have in order to make up for the fact that they don't have archers
Halp me /v/
>>338018604
I know, I know. But remember how much fun was had on /v/ and in general when Rome 2 came out as an unplayable glitchy fucking mess? Every other game is made worse for glitches and bugs, except Total War.
Sure, they fix it after a few days, but on launch day there's nothing more fun than discovering pic related.
>>338018735
>Warhammer visuals looks more inspired by DC/Marvel and MMO than fiction or mythology.
>>338018795
>not starting 3 playthroughs at once
Casual.
>>338018816
Looks like Kel'Thuzad.
>>338018693
t. a 40K scrub
The universe is much, much deeper than you think. Tomb Kings are a great example, Dwarves too.
>>338018809
I agree, and its not like I am not going to buy it anyway, so might as well do it now and enjoy the shitstorm
>>338018816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUJOeuxpXE
>>338018912
you need to check your eyes mate
>>338018479
You really don't think there won't be a Total War: Warhammer 40k sometime down the pipeline? Because I see that as being easy fucking money.
I am talking 4-5 years from now.
Probably gonna go for dorfs. I am gonna sit on this hill and then I am going to fucking dare anyone to brave the storm of shit I will throw his way and remove me.
>>338018998
I did.
GW stole from BLIZ!
Lawsuit imminent.
>>338018952
Exactly. You just have to laugh at these things.
>>338018998
All what I can see is different colours, but same design.
>>338018691
"According to Robert M. Price in his essay "Lovecraft's 'Artificial Mythology'", Lovecraft never intended his pantheon of beings—occasionally referred to as the Old Ones—to be supernatural creatures but instead powerful extraterrestrials. For naive humans to worship these beings as gods or to deride them as devils was to feebly attempt to anthropomorphize them and thus render them into mundane and explainable terms. What early humans could not understand they characterized as divine; thus, prescientific cultures deified incomprehensible entities like Azathoth. Though humans might try to placate or earn the favor of these beings by worshiping them, the Old Ones were not welcoming of such veneration and moreover were quick to exploit the gullibility of their worshipers to further their own agenda.
Lovecraft's inspiration was to tear humanity from its supposedly vaunted place in the universe by forcing his characters to confront alien beings far older and wiser than humankind. Unfortunately, August Derleth, as well as other writers who followed after him, misinterpreted Lovecraft's original conception and took the Old Ones to be literally supernatural and godlike. Derleth further distorted Lovecraft's vision by concocting a parallel to the Christian narrative of Satan warring against Heaven, pairing the devils of Lovecraft's mythos (the Old Ones) against a race of benevolent Elder Gods with humanity's fate hanging in the balance. In Price's view, "religious fiction" of this sort could not be further from Lovecraft's fundamental notion of an indifferent, nihilistic universe "
Can someone give me any comparison as to what the races will be about?
Ie: if one of them is centered around lategame
>>338019015
Of course not. Why? Because only 3 races can actually front the kind of armies needed for a TW-style battle.
Nids, Guards and Orks. Every other faction would have one hell of a rough time massing a few thousand units for battle.
>>338018519
Never tried to play any Total War games on a laptop before, so I have no idea. My inclination would be to say not very well based on how Rome 2 and Attila run on my decent PC, but maybe other people in the thread can be more helpful. And for all I know, this one could be a whole lot more optimized and whatnot (I'm not holding my breath for that though).
>>338017824
As a long time Total War player, all I have to say is that the AI is wildly different between games and can be erratic but I never call it good. Especially when they're attacking in a siege battle, it will frequently go full retard and just sit there waiting for you to come out and kill it or throw all of its troops at one wall/gate for you to slaughter. Rome 2 still suffers badly from this. And in most of the games if you have even a remotely superior position like a hill, the AI will completely shut down and refuse to move until you go after them. It's technically "smart" for doing that but it's awful and annoying as far as playing goes. I generally play against the hardest difficulty AI for battles and lower for campaign map since the AI can basically cheat there. You should be fine starting on a lower difficulty, the battles will rarely challenge you once you understand how to play anyway.
>>338019053
I'm gonna' play Vampire Cunts and I'll have more skeletons than you have ammunition dwarfag.
>>338019105
I had a whole folder of r2 fuck up pics, but since I no longer have it, I have to find new stuff to shitpost with
>>338019059
>>338019114
Ahhhhhhhh!
>>338019124
>Vamp Cunts - large armies of crap, and magic
>Greenfags - large armies of savages that will kill anything and everything
>Imperials - large armies of soldiers and knights and shit
>Glorious Dwarf Master Race - large armies of heavily armored warriors supported by mecha-artillery
>>338019114
>>338019059
>blizzard invented lichs
all right.
>>338019124
Dwarves are all about defense. Orks are all about brute force melee and overwhelming numbers. Vampire Counts are very fast armies with a lot of dark magic and necromancy. Empire are basically balanced and most similar to a traditional Total War Army with knights and soldiers.
>>338019415
>>blizzard invented lichs
Why HoMM3 (for example) lichs looks different?
>>338019124
>Dwarfs
+-low mobility heavy infantry
-no cavalry
+top tier arty
>Orcs
-shit morale
+big mosters
Empire
+-jack of all trades
Vampire Counts
+cheap tarpit zombies and skeletons
+best flying units
+weak early game but godly late game units
-no ranged units
>>338019124
from the videos we have seen
vamps: very strong monsters, crap cheap infantry no archers at all
orcs: their cavalry is crap and archers are pretty meh but good in melee, strong infantry and they also have monsters
dwarves: no cavalry, no magic and no monsters but extremely good armour (their archers have more armour than some factions "heavy" infantry), and generally very tough and defensive slow army, have gyrocopters
chaosh: is a ladder
empire: gunpowder, good cavalry - including ranged cavalry, decent infantry magic
>>338019463
??????????
>>338009630
>I know nothing about TW: The post
>>338019568
>>338019509
>>338019457
>>338019337
Okay thanks everyone
>>338019463
Sure, GW stole tons of stuff from various authors over the time. Especially with 40k.
But to even imply, that GW steal from Fagzzard, that is just pure baiting. Hell, even Warcraft was originally meant to be Warhammer strategy game.
Does anyone else feel like Dwarves are going to need a buff? The cannon and guns simply doesn't work vs an opponent with good cavalry management.
>>338019509
>Orcs
>-shit morale
I hope by shit morale you mean they just start fucking each other up. It might be acceptable for gobbos to run, but Orks are born for the fight.
>>338010924
Do keep in mind thoguh that Vampire Counts have no ranged units at all, so you better spook 'em for all you're worth.
>>338000509
Oh, its fantasy...
Ill wait for dow3.
>>338019692
>But to even imply, that GW steal from Fagzzard, that is just pure baiting.
Looks like I don't get it, but why?
>Hell, even Warcraft was originally meant to be Warhammer strategy game.
In 1991.
>>338019701
well if its balanced like earlier titles, meaing that cavalry dominates anything thats not a city/mountains then they will likely be somewhat weak vs a human opponent
>>338017761
People like this are the reason why we got Age of Smegma.
>>338019701
Its not even out yet and whiny faggots are asking for buffs/nerfs.
>>338019701
Dwarves are meant for crushing Ork skulls and digging in with walls and trenches, not fighting in open fields.
>>338019765
This is going to be an incredibly cool mechanic though. I mean, Dwarfs must be the ultimate counter to these fuckers if they can't sprint into melee-range.
>>338019015
>having a Total War with all that ranged firepower
>without any rank and file nonsense
>where a fortification could just get annihilated from orbit
>most importantly, when Dawn of War already exists
No, I don't see it happening. It wouldn't do the setting justice even if the idea did get past the board meetings.
>>338018693
blizzdrone, please stick to playing Overwatch
>>338019989
>idiots on /v/ bitching about irrelevant things
You dont say
>>338019848
>steal Warhammer Fantasy setting
>make tons of money
What should our next setting be goys?
>steal 40k setting
>make tons of money
I guess when you're ripping off Tolkien and Giger you have no right to complain.
>Deathwatch
>DoW3
>TW: Warhammer
>Battlefleet Gothic Armada
This is actually a pretty fun time to be a Warhammer fan.
>>338020052
vamps have strong disruptive flying units though, I am sure they will be fine, all they have to do is keep the cannons busy before the main force reaches the midgets
>Vampire Counts faction
>don't get to play as daddy vlad
>don't get to play as konrad
>don't get to play as abhorash
>don't get to play as neferata
>instead get blandfredd
>>338020186
>gyrocopter vs felbats
its like warcraft 3 all over again
>>338020247Isn't it great?
>>338020204
Mod it in
Game has full mod support
>>338020138
>>steal Warhammer Fantasy setting
Wut? Even maps always was different.
>>steal 40k setting
Seriously?
40k: Space Marines best soldiers, knightly orders organization
And also, let's be honest and remember that tyranids was redesigned AFTER Starcraft.
SC; Space Marines formed from criminals
>>338001679
>It's just like the real hobby !
>>338019848
>In 1991.
Warhammer is long lasting "inspiration" for the Warcraft, and always was. That should explain the first point as well. Same with the Starcraft and 40k.
For example, the Tomb Kings and all their Egyptian undead style (in which is our dear Nagash styled as well) went out around 1999. Long time before Kel'Thuzad.
Anyways, both Blizzard and GW are huge jews who stole tons of shit from other authors.
>>338020204
you also get some old looking faggot though, at least you are not chaos that gets a gaylord, a monster and a guy wearing a stupid helmet with kiddie scribbles on it
>>338020052
A guy in /twg/ who got a review copy says that VC can counter dwarfs by raising zombies behind their gunline.
>>338020247They came from, behind.
>>338020350
That cannot seriously be the Chaos champion?
Are you fucking kidding me?
And what's going on at the pants-level there?
>>338020350
80's hair metal Fabio here is not how I picture my Chaos....
>>338020350
>average chaos champion cuck
>>338020350
>complaining about the runes on his helmet and not the stupid fucking horns the size of his arms that keep getting bigger
>>338020336
>in which is our dear Nagash styled as well
What? Can you show me parts made in Egyptian style here >>338019306
>>338019059
>>338018998
except head?
>>338020374
>implying shitty militia peasant tier zombies can do anything against dwarfs
>>338020414
He's the Chosen of Slaanesh, of course he looks like a prettyboy.
>>338020274
I am really interested to see how modding will effect this game.
>>338020414
That's Sigvald the Magnificent. Chosen champion for Slaanesh. That alone should be enough to explain it.
Other Chaos champions will get fleshed out when each god gets their own faction.
>>338018779
>he thinks im going to wait for lizard men and tomb kings
>>338020459
No, but they keep them occupied while the rest of your army closes in.
>>338020459
All they NEED to do is act as fodder while the main bulk of the army makes their approach.
And zombies make for solid, hard-to-kill fodder.
>>338020414
Hes actually really well done, and almost 1:1 for the lore.
>>338020414
he's a slaanesh worshipping viking, that's exactly what he should look like
>>338019701
You aren't factoring in spells to fuck up charge bonus and shit.
>>338020493
>>338020471
>Slaanesh
Oooh, okay that totally explains it.I don't know shit about Warhammer. Who the fuck is Slaanesh and why does that excuse this guy looking like a barbie doll?
any news on the free dota hats you get for buying the game?
and for people who dont like dota you should care because you can sell that shit and get some money back
>>338020334
""[Blizzard co-founder] Allen Adham hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition", Wyatt says. "Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, but a combination of factors, including a lack of traction on business terms and a fervent desire on the part of virtually everyone else on the development team (myself included) to control our own universe nixed any potential for a deal."
And yes seriously. Anyone with any knowledge between 40k and Starcraft will tell you you're trolling if you disagree.
>>338020591
Slaanesh is all about sex, narcissism, and general all round self absorption faggotry.
His chosen warriors are typical some sort of perfect sex symbol that go around disemboweling and fucking like mad.
>>338020456
oh I hate the horns, but I figured that if I complain about them, then some autists will immediately start shitposting about how its fantasy and I am a retard for wanting "realism"
>>338001679
If only it was cheap and easy to find like the tabletop game.
Can't wait for the 40K mods
>>338020591
maybe use google.
>>338020591
There are 4 chaos gods:
Khorne: Angry god of violence and blood.
Tzeentch: Weird god of change and magic.
Nurgle: Merry god of disease and pestilence.
Slaanesh: SEX, DRUGS AND ROCK AN ROLL.
>>338007901
why not just play battlefleet gothic armada instead? theres so many 40k games already, let us have some fantasy too
>>338019701
According to the CA stream yesterday, Dwarfs have ridiculously good morale/leadership and will only rout after the majority of the unit is dead, unlike the other factions ive seen so far
>>338020654
I'm not even complaining about them from a practicality standpoint though. They just look dumb aesthetically.
>>338020653
Oh, so he's SUPPOSE to look like a sleek prettyboy? Oh, that's kinda' neat then I guess. Didn't know Chaos went that way, but I guess it kinda' makes sense.
>>338020693
Yeah see, those other Gods I could kinda' expect with Chaos and all, but Slaanesh caught me off guard. Still that almost makes barbie-man kinda' cool!
>>338020334
>tyranids was redesigned AFTER Starcraft.
right the film Alien had nothing to do with it
>>338020693
Don't forget Malal and the Horned Rat.
Do vamps units even have moral? How can the dead possibly fear anything? What are they gonna' do, kill us AGAIN?
>>338020730
that might actually make them the most unbalanced faction there is.
>>338020458
>1999, GW uses Egyptian undead style
>2002, Blizzard uses very similar Egyptian undead style with the Kel'Thuzad
>2015, GW uses Egyptian undead style again in the End Times.
>2016, Anon whines, that it is a copy of Blizzard's work.
Stop being dumb, anon.
>>338020653
>His chosen warriors are typical some sort of perfect sex symbol that go around disemboweling and fucking like mad.
Depends.
A lot of them look like weird hermaphroditic tentacle monsters.
Sigvald exemplifies the slaaneshi trait of vanity. So he looks like a pretty boy. He's even got mirrors installed in his army's shields so he can look at himself during battle.
>>338020821
They have a 'crumbling' effect, if they start getting overwhelmed they will eventually just break apart
>>338020591
I dont know much about lore either, but some people over at twg were saying that he is such a fag that canonically he gave mirror shields to his soldiers so that he could see his reflection on them, he went to war with elves because they have better hair than him, and apparently in tabletop there is a chance for him to see his reflection while attacking and get so enamoured by it that he stops his attack or something
>>338020821
They have a crumbling mechanic instead of morale
>>338020795
DELETE THIS IT WAS ALL BECAUSE BLIZZARD BUY OVERWATCH RIGHT NOW
>>338020821
If they lose the leader the normal units start to wither down. They dont rout but take extra damage or something.
>>338020753
cant argue with that
>>338020871
>he
>>338020374
>counter dwarfs by raising zombies behind their gunline.
Its all I've ever wanted
>>338020596
All of the current submissions look like total dogshit, but thankfully they aren't being judged until August, so we have some months for them to churn out something good. This necromancer set gives me hope.
>>338020871
That'sfucking awesome.
>>338020871
I hope they implement something like that. Like during a charge, he'll randomly just stop to fix his hair or some shit.
That'd be perfect.
>>338000509
Yo, can anyone tell me why the fuck the Chaos Warriors don't have any Marked Chosen?
Is it even Chaos at this point?
>>338020967
Witch hunter set forKunkkawhen
>>338020967
>1500 hours in DotA 2
>somehow didn't realize until just now that Necro is aesthetically based on Nosferatu
This changes everything.
Gyrobombers apparently have a nose mounted autocannon. Looked pretty neat.
>>338015370
Jesus fucking Christ I hate everything about that design.
but what of fair bretonnia?
>>338021046
They have Chosen.
>>338021046
The chaos faction is Undivided. The individual chaos god factions will be in the expansions.
>>338020871
He also razed a city because he didn't like their wine.
>>338020642
>hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition"
>hoped
>Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft
In 1991, not in 2015.
And I also, didn't see any mentions of Starcraft.
>>338021085
Dworf tech is the best
>>338021140
Bretonnia is AI-only faction till a free DLC later which gives them more unique units. They will be pretty barebones for awhile.
>>338021046
There are Chosen, they showed them in a battle against Dwarves recently.
>>338021151
Not Marked though.
>>338021085
They can shoot, melee attack or drop bombs
The bomb dropping is manual as well, so you control when they go.
>>338021140
Somewhat done, most units will be ingame, but they are not playable yet. Will be free DLC later to play as them.
>>338021140
will most likely be a FLC since they said it will not be a paid faction, but at release they are only available in custom battles, so you cant play a campaign with them
>>338020795
>right the film Alien had nothing to do with it
So, both, Tyranids and Zergs was stolen from Alien, not from Warhammer.
>>338021140
>>338021210
You can still play them in Custom Battles (with a limited roster), though.
>>338000509
Are there Dark Elves? If not, I'll wait till they're in.
>>338020834
>>2015, GW uses Egyptian undead style again in the End Times.
Again, where is details except head made in Egyptian style?
>>338021227
>melee gyrobombers
I am ready.
>>338021240
How could Tyranids be stolen from Warhammer when they are Warhammer? Is time travel involved where they became their own designer?
i will buy this day one, after i bought the Warhammer online collectors edition at launch i am beyond any disappointment
>>338021140
>Literally Who: The Faction
>>338021176
Fuck off cunt. 40k ripped off Alien and Giger and Starcraft ripped off 40k and Giger. I'm not doing anymore fact finding for you. Now make yourself useful and go troll an Overwatch thread.
>>338021220
Its chaos undivided or something. All units are the normal version with out any marks.
>>338021304
>What is design continuity.
>What is original idea.
As I said before. Stop being dumb.
>>338020967
Thanks, do you know how many free chests do we get for buying the game?
>>338021353
>not having ordered the King's Edition
>not inevitably being disappointed in the grandest way
Apply thyselfs.
>>338021353
you didn't buy rome 2 anon though. that is a dissapointment of the agesI'm buying it too sigmar preserve us
>>338020350
Daily reminder that Sigvald literally tried to invade Ulthuan because he was jealous of High Elven hair.
>>338021467
rome 2 is a fine game now. Everyone assumes that it hasn't been patched to hell and back.
>>338021430
>>What is design continuity.
>>What is original idea.
But there is no Egyptian style >>338019306
>>338019059
>>338018998
except fucking head.
>>338021412
>>338021158
Undivided still has Marked dudes though, don't they?
I just want my Chaos Knights of Khorn on Juggernauts
>>338021594
It's only fine if you play Romans or Greek, all other factions are pure shit.
>>338021594
yes its a fine game now but it took about a year and a half for it to be not dogfood anon. I've played it since.
>>338021641
>wanting to play barbarians
check out this profligate
>>338021629
Wait I thought they were called Moloch?
>>338021686
>always playing the same factions in a game that plays the same every playthrough
Boring as hell.
>>338021629
naa anon chaos in this one is merely 'warriors of chaos' if you are familiar with the tabletop.
no demons 4 u, just everything else (hellcannons are the exception)
>>338002595
Dogs of War too? Lustria?
>>338017714
it was also entirely in one country
a very insular one at that
>>338021698
>Moloch
The mount? Never heard that. What region are you from?
>>338021629
Yes and no. It can have. Archon has all the warriors from every god. Then some smaller lord might only have "normal" warriors.
CA clearly going only normal units at the moment. In future im sure we are going to get different gods and demons and marked warriors.
>>338021772
Every faction with a rulebook in 8th or every faction that was playable in 8th.
>>338021784
Austria. Gonna check the book when the floor isn't lava anymore.
>>338021641
nah.
Carthage is top tier
Iberian factions are top tier.
Celts have god tier cavalry.
You know what DLC I could totally go for in this game?
Narrated lore.
Like if I bought "Lore DLC" I could click on a unit-type, click a little icon and have a fitting voice read me a lore-based description of the unit, or how it was trained, or a short story of the type of unit's conquests. Like a short fluff-piece about that particular unit-type for every unit in the game.
Something comfy like that would never be made though.
>>338021771
pic related is literally in the Warriors of Chaos codex though.
>>338021916
That would require they add in each of a provinces' mascot regiment and or knightly order.
>>338021604
Alright, this is my last post.
>Hat
>Royal beard
>Accented eyebrows with the helmet
>Staff
Half of it is Egyptian based. Not my issue you don't see it because you are lacking the knowledge. And don't even get me started on lore around him.
Is there going to be blood dlc again?
>>338022009
Nah, nah, it didn't have to be that specific! Just a colorful description of why the unit looks like it does, and how useful they were back in Battle of X under King Y the Nth or something.
>>338021916
nah, would be too much effort for too little gain.
Its something that paradox would do though.
>>338021975
fair enough I only ever glanced at woc when it came out, never got into it.
sadly nay unless they plan on fleshing out the chaos with the dlcs. or more likely expansions
>>338022046
IF KHORNE WILLS IT!!!
In seriousness, no.
>>338022046
of course
>>338011970
basically the WHFB world exploded and got replaced with the complete antithesis of everything that made it cool
>>338022046
Sadly yes. Leaving the blood the game becomes pg12 or something. Blood must be dlc or sometinhg not just flc.
>>338016263
it's too readable to be slav
>>338022046
Free DLC.
>>338022046
The mentioned in an interview they are going the same route as other Total War games regarding blood as DLC to keep age rating lower. It will also launch at a later date, a month or so after release.
>>338016278
Since Bretonnia's campaign is being held back I'd imagine an expansion with them and Wood Elves is planned
>>338022378
After thousands of shitposts he is getting the basics of English. However, style of shitposting remains the same.
>>338022041
>>Staff
>generic bone staff
>Egyptian
>tfw pre-ordered this last month.
>>338022575
Me too. I can't see a single time I'll drink from the horn, but I might have to out of some weird novelty.
>>338022483
bretonnians are going to be the FLC race.
>>338015193
Where is that from? Are the Dark Elves getting a new ''codex''?
>chaosfags
>May 24
Sorry guys, but looks like we are giong to steal all your sales once again.
>>338022997
>blizz shit
>stealing sales from a steam game
baka
>>338022997
bought them both desu
>>338022956
Who is that, superman?
>>338022997
sure thing blizzdrone.
sure thing.
Now go fap to your autistic waifu shooter.
>>338022997
Buying Warhammer over it Desu
>>338023141
>sure thing blizzdrone.
>sure thing.
>after 25 Warhammerfans didn't learn the main lesson
>>338019762
Yeah, Orcs have Animosity. How that exactly keys in I'm not sure if they've detailed yet, but it'll be there.
>>338023203
eric.
simply eric
>>338022997
Nah, only retards who can't even play games are buying that ultra casual, shallow trash and Total War was never for them to begin with.
>>338023345
TW was always more hardcore than blizzard games.
Especially with mods.
>>338023345
You're joking right? Overwatch is even more dumbed down and simple than most mobile games. TW is chess by comparison, and certainly not a game that most people are able to wrap their heads around.
>>338023487
I remember watching Jesse cox play Total war arena.
pretty fucking entertaining desu.
>>338020808
We don't talk about those.
>>338020578
>Dwarfs
>spells
Do you even Warhams?
>>338024076
Runesmiths will have similar buffs to help vs charge units. I think relying on cooldowns vs winds of magic will be so useful in long fights
>>338024076
runesmiths/priests get buffs/debuffs anon
its odd wording but it's basically the case.
also notice in every video every human unit flees 3 times in the course oof a battle. dwarfs don't
>>338020693
You mean:
Khorne: God of Justice and Honor
Tzeentch: God of Hope and Progress
Nurgle: God of Life and Growth
Slaanesh: God of Love and Enjoyment
>>338024342
khorne is literally never about honor.
>>338024230
>>338024273
They still aren't technically spells, they don't harness the winds of magic as proper spellcasters do.
>>338024392
More than Sigmar.
>>338015370
>tfw AoS is failing hard
Feels good
>>338010707
>>338011106
>>338012125
>>338012675
May your beards grow fine and gilded!
>>338024342
Those are almost all wrong, except for Slaanesh which is partly right. Maybe like, 1/3 correct.
>>338024342
didn't that get retconned at some point in the last few years
>>338024705
>>338024724
Chaos is the good guys! Trust me!
>>338024789
i remember them having what that anon said and their usual negatives as well, but i'm not sure what happened to it
distinctly remember it being two good things and two bad things per god
>>338024664
Is it?
I hear people saying that sales are up.
Which sucks, because fuck AoS.
>>338024931
It is
>>338024795
>swiggity swooty
>>338024931
>tfw you can get a space marine model and call it a sigmarine
I'm liking how the Chaos hordes are totally nomadic, was this a mechanic from Attila? I skipped that game.
>>338020350
Holy shit is that Brad Pitt in Troy?
>>338025156
Yes, you shouldnt have skipped attila it is the best tw
>All that freedom in picking your starting position with the migrators
>Having to tell huns to fuck off
>Having to fight against a strong as fuck eastern roman empire if you want to be number one
And other stuff
>>338024392
he used to be
>>338025302
When it comes to TW games the setting matters to me as much as the rest of the gameplay, I skipped Shogun 2 and the standalones simply because I'm not interested in glorious nippon steel folded 1,000,000 times. Similarly the late Roman empire/dark ages period really doesn't strike my fancy the way medieval and Napoleonic did.
>>338024931
Orruks or whatever sold because people want to use them for 40k Ork conversions
Sigmarines and the rest are still bombing
>>338025439
Its true, the orruks have some really nice looking models
>>338025685
I disagree completely
The shaman is nice, but I seriously doubt whether it was an actual AoS model and not an old WHFB cast dug out of storage
>>338022575
I'm having flashbacks of me pre-ordering the Collector's Edition for Warhammer Online.
Never again.
>>338025685
They make for good 40k orkz. But as their own thing they suck balls.
>>338025832
>>338025987
Youre telling me this doesnt look nice?
>>338026272
yes and I'm shocked that you think otherwise
>>338026324
Then what makes it a bad model?
>>338026272
It looks shit.
>>338026432
just look at it
what the fuck is that armour even meant to be
>>338023203
Your supervisor need to teach you a lesson about marketing it seems.
>>338024931
>I hear people saying that sales are up
the only ones saying the sales are up are the ones who want the game to gain foothold, there even have been fabricated rumors from GW insiders trying to pass the idea AoS is actually succesful or even on par with 40k by putting this info along other rumors that just happen to get confirmed 2 days later by official or unofficial leaks.
This happened twice in a month, in the same period of GW reopening community pages and proving awareness of the "hot" rumors.
Can't wait for that inevitable High elf DLC
>>338026540
Like power armour? Im talking about these for 40k. I dont know shit about sigmar.
It looks like an ork in crude space marine armour, thats pretty rad. Just need to do something about the exposed bicep on the left arm
>>338026678
Elves exists solely for rape in all video games.
We wuz dorfs n shiet
I don't suppose Nagash is in this? I think I saw Arkhan but no Nagash
>>338026714
we've already got those though
>>338026791
it's pre-end times so no nagash
>>338026739
Slaanesh please go, this is a family friendly image board
So what's the word on mods, they're making mod tools after all?
>>338026791
He's not in it but doesAzhagcount?
>>338026907
Last I heard it was launching with them, 2 of the developers are releasing their own mods on launch.
>>338026905
>Slaanesh
You fuckers practically bread this thing into existence. Now you're going to have to suffer eternal rape by his hand.
>>338026791
So far no, but Azhag is in it, and his crown is certainly making itself felt...
>>338026907
Official mod support, whatever that means
>>338026902
But look at how boring and static that pose is. I like MANZ as much as the next grot but they only truly look nice as conversions.
Mostly because while mega armour looks nice in art, on the models its so front heavy its silly
>>338026791
>I think I saw Arkhan
You saw wrong.
In the undead we only have worst carstein and kemmler, you would have recognized Arkhan, he is a handsome looking fella after all.
>>338026905
You can't have a family without slaanesh to begin with.
>>338027002
This is no 40k, elves did not create slaanesh, they just happen to be the tastiest to xir.
>>338020591
People seem to forget that Warhammer doesn't take itself seriously at all, it thrives off of pure ridiculousness.
>>338027281
>This is no 40k, elves did not create slaanesh, they just happen to be the tastiest to xir.
Actually, they might have created them but the Elves Gods are fugitives fleeing from the Chaos Gods.
>>338026972
One will split factions legendary lords starting positions, so you can play co-op with the same faction, and the other will allow you to occupy any city with any faction.
>>338027353
NO ELFKEKS PLS
>>338027353
There's no dubs on /v/ you fucking newfag.
>>338027463
rekt
>>338027423
I'm sure you can co-op with the same faction without it, but with either only Host having a legendary lord or sharing the exact same one
>>338027202
Too bad. I liked Arkhan, he put up with a lot of shit from Nagash and that Egyptian vampire chick. Guy went through a lot, would have been good to fight with him as a leader.
How many lords are there per faction?
>>338027513
preciselythere's no Bretonnian campaign on TWW
>>338027575
You can't without the mod, that's explicitly why CA worked with the modder to get it out.
>>338027647
it's still possible, Tomb Kings just haven't got put in the game yet
>>338027647
He was basically a robot.
The Neverchild restored some portion of his humanity to torment him.
>>338027805
Who or what is the neverchild?
>>338027906
I meant the Everchild, the Daughter of the Everqueen. Born ofcuckolding
>>338000509
>>338000962
fuck off shill
>>338000509
>No Lizards
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>338028082
So, were the evil elves Nagash locked up in the pyramid that taught him necromancy the same ones that Malus Darkblade was? I always wondered if all that shit was connected.
And is Karl Franz the same emperor in 40k? Was he immortal?
>>338028694
The 40k emperor is indeed immortal, but he's not Karl Franz. The fantasy Warhammer isn't a prequel to Warhammer 40k, it's actually happening on a distant planet in the Warhammer 40k universe.
>>338028858
is that even a thing anymore?
>>338028694
Malus Darkblade does belong to the same branch of elves as the ones that Nagash interrogated, they all being dark elves
>>338028858
>it's actually happening on a distant planet in the Warhammer 40k universe.
>Source: My headcanon
>>338028858
That theory was never confirmed
Alongside "sigmar is one of the lost primarchs"
>>338029278
>>338029429
I'm pretty sure in the fluff artefacts from the 40k universe have shown up in fantasy, like chaos gods granting bolters to certain soldiers.
>>338027693
2 legendary lords, more to come.
if you're talking about the conventional ones I think I saw a witch hunter, a warrior priest and an archmage for the empire; a thane, an engineer and a runesmith for the dorfs, so I assume there're 3 normal heroes per faction, but I may be wrong
>>338027693
most get 2, chaos gets 3
>>338029278
It's actually old, old fluff
>>338028946
40k and fantasy are linked through chaos.
the old ones were probably the same, chaos is the same and we can see the eye of terror in the map for fantasy's realm of chaos.
In the end times there were some cameos: namely some guys meeting a pretty big knight in silver armor speaking a strange language and shooting blue lightning bolts from his fingertips lost in the warp (draigo) and the skaven meddling with old ones tech in lizardmen temples and ending up having telephonic contact with "alien voices strangely similar to elves'".
In older fluff there were artifacts that resembled power fists, power swords, chain axes, bolters and laspistols, mainly as gifts from the gods, chaos had numerous anachronistic warmachines at their disposals.
The main problem is that, if we take the disappearance of the old ones are a common point of time for both settings and assume time flows normally, fantasy would end up millions of years before mankind evolved.
Considering that the empire of the old ones moved across numerous realities we can say that the 2 settings are linked, but they may as well be different galaxies or universes.
>>338030524
>fantasy would end up millions of years before mankind evolved.
Couldn't they just be part of time dilation shenanigans similar to what the Tau experienced?
>>338030663
Weren't the Tau just cut off from the Imperium from warp storms, letting them evolve without being wiped out?
>overwatch and warhammer coming out the same day.
hardest choice I'll ever make
>>338030752
There was definitely time dilation caused by the warp storms, the region past the Damocles gulf was catalogued by the imperium in the mid M30's and nothing resembling intelligent life was found, then in M41 they ran into an interstellar empire, the warp storm absolutely caused time to speed up in the area.
>>338030663
The tau didn't experience time dilatation, they just developed that fast.
>>338030859
I haven't played since 5th, but I remember the 4th edition codex explicitly stating that they were found in a tribal state on T'au and the planet was marked for sterilisation and settlement before the warp storms hit
>>338000509
>Don't talk to me or my sons ever again
lorefags, what happens to your soul when you die in 40k?
>>338031087
Ordinary people basically cease to exist, they don't have enough psykic power to keep their consciousness cohesive in the empyrean. If you're a psyker you do, and you'll be raped by daemons for all eternity.
>>338030836
Played OW open beta enough for a few months. However TW launches are notoriously shit. Attila wasn't perfect but it was probably best one since Warscape and maybe before.
>>338031087
something something eternal suffering in the warp, I can't remember the details
I'm confused about the lore here, are the vampire counts and necromancers somehow independent of Chaos? Shouldn't all black sorcery be originated from the ruinous powers? According to the game vampire corruption and chaos corruption are two different things.
>>338031207
Maybe if youre an eldar cuck. Imperium psykers go to the emperor himself to help in his eternal duty.
>>338031436
You either have your soul fed to the emperor as a sacrifice or you serve him faithfully and have your soul fed to the emperor when you die.
>>338012412
What, they finally changed the CEO?
>>338031702
yep, this one seems to have his head on straight too
specialist games are back and they're putting out bundles with decent discounts
>>338031391
Its the winds of magic, the magic that powers necromancy just so happens to be a vicious, corruptive magic but chaos and necromancers have no love shared. Mostly because the necromancers and vampires are actual functioning human beings and not retarded fuckwits trying to kill themselves and the world so chaos senpai will notice them.
>>338031807
>vampires are actual functioning human beings and not retarded fuckwits
>>338031807
>When you're so edgy that even the fucking undead faction thinks you're a retard
>>338029278
There was old fluff that Warhammer Fantasy was taking place on a planet completely surrounded by warp storms, and at the same time the 40k universe either existed or could be viewed from a giant seeing crystal in the Imperial College of magic. Also there where chaos champions with bolt guns. Along with weapons of legend that worked and looked suspiciously like chainswords and power weapons.
Of course now the point is moot because AGE OF SHITMAR.
>>338031924
Not every vampire is a few bats short of a belfry.
>>338031802
>bundles with decent discounts
It's been Aeon they weren't making any discounts on them, I was wondering their purpose.
>>338031924
Best part of fantasy for me. The fact that not only are vampires not fucking retarded. They also have realistic goals and human wants. I mean shit. Half the Von Carsteins just want to MAKE THE EMPIRE GREAT AGAIN and think the best way to do it is by defeating the Emperor and being crowned as the Emperor. Some Vampire Count leaders are also non human haters. Treat their peasantry like actual people, get blood and gold as taxes and even fill their armies with normal humans (who are very dedicated since their quality of life is fairly high.). Having fairly benevolent vampire lords with realistic human goals is a breath of fresh air.
>>338031391
All magic derives from the energies forming and flowing from the realm of chaos, but not all magic is aligned to the chaos gods in the end.
Necromancy is a fairly refined art, being a form of instrumentality it goes against many of the chaos gods.
>>338032390
Daddy Vlad was pretty great.
>>338032390
That's actually pretty cool, this is my first introduction to the fantasy Warhammer, I definitely appreciate how it seems less ONLY WAR than 40k. I actually really like the diplomacy aspect of previous TW games, I was worried there wouldn't be any in this since it would involve just armies plowing into each other, but it sounds like there's some shrewd alliance-forming and breaking here, at least against the 2/5 factions that are savage barbarians.
>>338032575
Shame about his waifu though
>>338032616which one
Isabella was pretty cool. The lesbian egyptian woman not so much.
hello reddit
>>338032797
Isabella, she became nurgles plague slut after vlad died, for real, the second time.
>>338031924
>any von carstein bar vlad as representative of undead
fucking inhuman faggots
>>338032879
I like to pretend the End Times never happened
>Malekith crowned as phoenix king and getting burnt was just a prank bro ;)
no thanks
>>338032879
>end times fluff
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>338032601
Yeah, Warhammer does have some pretty interesting aspects. For instance while it's usually said "Norsaca is chaos" there are Norscans that don't follow chaos, they're stilly horn wearing Vikings who rape and pillage they just don't do it for chaos and can ally with the Empire though usually they are allied with Kisliv or hired by Kisliv.
Generally the Empire can engage in diplomacy with Bretonnia, Kisliv, The Dwarven Holds, Estelia, Tilia, The Border Princes, and the High Elves. Also maybe Cathay but I can't remember.
Some other neat stuff. Several Tomb King Lords have human cities and their ruled over like any other human land. They consider them as their subjects and only really go out to get back their rightful clay.
Ork mercenary bands are a thing and can be hired by giving them teeth or weaponry. Generally a double edged sword but if you point them in the right direction they can be useful.
Kisliv is a nation that is half Novograd and half Poland-Lithuania commonwealth with Hussars, and Bear riding Hussars. Led by a literal Ice Queen who can freeze men's blood in their veins.
There's a pirate ship run by an insane vampire lord who basically fucks with shit for fun because he is immortal.
Lustria home of he lizardmen is South America and the lizardmen are the Mayans except made up of velociraptors and giant mummified toad men.
The Dorfs built a giant airship, a derigiable loaded with cannons.
There's a cannon in Middenheim in the wall with a barrel width of a 4 story house that's loaded by Giants in the Emperors service.
The Skaven have an underground Empire that stretches the world and everything about them is both hilarious, terrifying, and cool.
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