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Lets share some higher level mechanics and tips so you don't suck when the game comes out
Mccree can stun reinhardt through shield if he aims right above it
Bastion can rocket jump during his ult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qDSnYEbrIA
If Genji is close enough, he can reflect Hanzo ult and zaryas ult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IVquMhCta8
When ulting as junkrat, always put a mine down, because youll be able to double jump after
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jIoxI9aRts
>>337762370
I dont think this is intentional. I mean its a ghost dragon thing not a projectile and it just looks supper silly to deflect that. I bet this will get removed at launch.
>>337763334
Hanzo's ult is an arrow that turns into the dragon.
Genji reflected the arrow before it turned into the dragon
>>337763509
Oh damn didnt know it was an arrow. Is there anything he cannot deflect?
always have your team play the exact same class
https://youtu.be/FCygSHeoe7Q I know the kid is a Sperg but the special options for each character are amazing, controllable dpi for widowmakers zoom is handy af
Anything cool with Symmetra?
>>337763672
He can't deflect lasers, if that makes sense. Symmetra's laser beam, Zarya's normal laser, Symmetra's turrets, and Mei's freezing spray I don't think are affected by the reflect
>>337763095
Holy fuck I've been playing Junkrat all wrong. Assumed the mine cooldown didnt start till after its detonation.
>>337763095
Dude this is crazy.
>>337763095
>Those wall jumps
I'm going to experiment the hell out of this come the 24th.
>>337763857
I cant find a clip of it but symmetra can use all her orb ammo at once and can one shot almost anyone. She charges a max sized orb, runs towards the direction of her shot while firing smaller and smaller orbs and they all hit at around the same time
Another 9 days left.
Sure is taking forever.
>>337763857
Don't really have anything good.
The charged ball will pretty much ignore any defensive mechanic. Tank Shields. Genji reflect. Doesn't ignore mei wall, though.
Blowing up a tele before it's used all the charges refunds a proportional ult charge.
>>337763869
Also worth mentioning, deflect will block all melee attacks, but doesn't reflect the damage back. Also blocks roadhog's hook
>>337763857
advanced symmetra play is not selecting her
>>337764250
Symmetra's can be reflected, the beam can't.
Pretty well known, but learning how far D.Va's boost will carry her mech will allow you to use the ult as a long range mortar. With the right angle and distance, you can send it halfway across the map and have it explode almost the second it hits the ground. It's insanely useful in outdoor areas.
be that one mercy when there is none
>>337761590
McREEEE tip
standing behind a corner and waiting for enemies will result in free kills, simply press E and M3. Enjoy the killstreaks :)
>>337764372
;-;
Her E is pretty shit to be honest. Torb Jorn drops better armor. She needs a new E.
>>337764583
>have a team with lucio and mercy
>faceroll almost every game
>>337764671
Its working! I am pro now!
>>337762370
PICKED THE FUCK UP
>>337764713
if the shields she gave regenerated, it'd justify having her around more often.
McREE's ult shots targets in order from right to left. If you're playing genji you can position yourself on his right and reflect it, saving all other teammates in his sights.
You can shoot out most railings in the environment. This makes it easier to get on ledges as tracer, widowmaker, etc.
headshots deal exactly double damage, so going for headshots is almost always worth it, even if it means your bullet spread with tracer, soldier, dva, makes you miss a bit.
You can melee attack. Try not to forget about it. You'd be surprised how many times I've been up in a hanzo's face and he just keeps trying to shoot arrows at me like a retard
if you're playing mei and icewall at a bad place, you can just press the hotkey again and the icewall gets destroyed instantly
>>337761590
Widowmaker tip XD
If you are epicly b@d @ @iming then just full charge body shot any 200 hp character, then pop them again with 13% charge (basically almost instantly after).
Will result in epic kills. Enjoy the kylestreaks my friends.
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Junkrat trap + c4 will kill any 200 hp range character. Use it in areas with tons of "lightweight" traffic. Like upper levels on Numbai. Use it to keep possession of good buildings like the building next to the tunnel at the end of Numbai should you get pushed far enough
Enjoy the killstreaks my friends
>>337765085
itsstillshitpostingevenifyourebeingironic.jpg
>how to play D.Va
Reinhardt shield will soak dmg from Symmetras turrets. Fully charged it will also block a D.Va ult in front of it, so your team just has to get behind you.
D.Va: If you happen to call in a mech on an enemy, it will smash on them with about 30-50 dmg, not sure how much exactly.
>>337764952
But they do regenerate.
>>337761590
Here's a hot tip for using Genji's ult in real life situations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruLlFlWzoMY
>>337765085
>complaining about Widowmaker
I'll concede that her gun fires much too quickly, but in no way is that playing her wrong. People run around like spazes, and it's oftentimes hard to get a read on them.
Symmetra tip.
Your left click scales up to crazy damage after a few seconds (125dps) and has very high ammo count meaning you can melt pretty much any other char 1v1.
OP here. Many characters can jump under kings row and flank the enemy team or escape
>>337764671
if you want to camp used a sniper friendo
mccree is for conter-franking or kill important targets (bastion, the supp, ets)
>>337765393
Forgot clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxa-GKWBi24
how do I use McRee's ult without immediately dying?
As Mei focus on the higher threat heroes, Bastions, Reinhart and the like, also try to use your abilities to separate players from each other, as in using a wall to stop a retreating tracer or Genji. also use your bilzzard not only as a way to freeze people, but as another way to trap people. fact is you are there for support and not much else, she does hit like a dumptruck if you use her right though.
>>337765541
get shielded or flank well
Roadhog can hook Junkrat's riptire ultimate.
>>337761590
Zaryas barriers control her damage on her beam gun, her barriers also make you incredibly durable for a short time. You can survive a Junkrat ultra if you time it right (his ultra is pretty much instakill 600 damage or so) Throw barriers on allies taking large damage and absorb it as charge instead.
50% of charge comes from your personal shield while the other 50% comes from the ally shield. A full power Zarya gun does massive damage and can kill a Roadhog in 2.7 seconds. Zarya's M3 also gets larger blast radius and more damage.
Also Mercy's heal gun charges faster on damaged allies. Simply work with your tank and tell them to take some damage. Pocketing a Hog can get you full charge incredibly fast.
>>337765541
use it far away or around a corner and peek out
>>337765397
>killing a bastion as mcree when your ultimate requires being in his line of sight
>>337765541
Use cover and time well/don't be retarded.
>>337763857
see
>>337765363
Shes my most played in beta. Top tier defender for sure.
Just make sure you have your turrets spread out covering different choke points and kinda sit behind them. If you start a fight with a tank by the time your left click kills them it will be fully charged letting you kill any normal health hero in around 2 seconds.
Really powerful in fights with your team as nobody EVER focuses Symmetra.
>>337765193
Good tip with her ult but cant find the clip. If you are surrounded by the enemy team fly your suit straight up and THEN ult when your pretty high up. Most of the time, they wont see it and it explodes above their heads
>>337764952
They do. Its literally 25 max health for the full team. Not amazing but 150 up to 175 will keep you from being one hit by a full charge body shot from widow.
>>337765713
No you sneak up, flash bang and unload 6 shots. If he isn't dead at that point just tumble and fire another 6.
>>337763857
She is horrible, please dont be waste of slot to your team by playing her, it's rude.
You can hook a mercy or a lucio to drag them away from any teammate's they might have healed/rezed.
You can also pull dvas mech away from your team, or if your team is already in cover and you've got a corner nearby you can pull he back onto her own mech to kill her (or you can pull her mech back into HER if she retreats toward you)
Same goes for riptire,
>>337763857
Pro tip. Pick this character when your team is already wiping the floor with the enemy.
>>337764952
They do, just not if entirely removed.
>>337763741
>Junkrat's tire can climb walls
>>337765953
The problem is 90% of people dont play her right. I got plenty POTG's and gold medals as her on defence. Def not great as a main support but her with a mercy or lucio is great.
Shes really good at holding choke points and flanking and does surprising damage.
>>337763857
She's great on any defense map, don't listen to these shitters.
>>337761590
OP here. lucio can basically wall climb and do shit like this
>>337765915
this, but i will prefer roll fist and them flash
mcree footsteps are loud as fuck
>>337763959
On volskaya industries attack I like to put down a mine on the far left spam out the choke until the cd is done and flank. People expect a tracer from there, but unless you've been playing since the closed beta, not too many people know other heros can get there as well.
Lucio can basically wall climb and do shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYDpvoFKXdY
>>337763857
Symmetra had something like a 65% win rate during open beta on defense. Clearly a shit tier character.
Pretty sure most people know this but just in case, you can shoot and blow up Junkrat's ult wheel.
>>337766330
KEK that niggas mobility is crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY9qxOi8Lxc
>>337766201
Pick Lucio and Symmetra and you're gonna win any defense map.
is any cool map trick?
>>337761590
Genji can reflect almost any projectile on the game. Even McCree's flashbang can be sent back at him (if he actually throws it close enough to you.) You can also reflect his ultra.
Dwarf armor kits give 75 armor a piece, throw them in high traffic areas your allies will be passing through. His ultra buffs you exponentially it's almost impossible to lose a 1v1. Turns turrets into level 3 for a short time.
Plus soldier can rocket jump with M3.
It's possible to fly horizontally with Tracer by spamming her shoop 2-3 times. There are a number of important gaps in the game you can cross this way.
When taking fire as Pharah, shoot your concussion grenade at a a wall to move yourself. This messes up the enemy's aim and lets you reload/wait for jump jets/let fuel refill, etc.
You can also shoot a concussion grenade at an enemy to knock them in the air, which gives them a predictable landing spot for a direct hit with a rocket.
Finally, many buildings in the game have rounded tops that it's impossible to stand on -- they force you to slide off, most notably on Ilios. It's possible to "skate" these with Pharah's hovering and cover a great distance.
>>337761590
Botless D'va generates ultra incredibly fast. Just a couple hits with her pistol will restore your bot. Your bot can take damage during its animation, do it in the wrong spot while taking fire and you pretty much will pop right out of that bot the moment you hopped in
>>337761947
broken
>>337763857
Only pick her on defense.
Get creative with your turret locations, don't just put them all in one place or in open spaces.
Her weapon is surprisingly strong and able to melt squishy heroes in seconds so get in there and pick off already engaged enemies.
>>337761590
D.VA can crush enemies with her Suit Drop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0JZ9YGw47E
>>337766648
If anything i feel like symmetra needs nerfs. She does so much damage with her left click you can basically w + m1 and get multikills
>>337767029
She's completely useless on any map that isn't defense so no, she doesn't need nerfs, if anything she needs buffs.
lucios speed boost affects payloads
>>337767128
You're fucking with me, right?
>>337767121
I'd love them to buff the orbs even if that meant nerfing the stream. the defensive playstyle she should be good at medium range, not very very short with her health
>>337767209
that shit dont work lmao
>>337767237
Her orbs are great, the fuck you on about.
>>337761590
Save Zenyatta ultras for reacting to enemy ultras, it pretty much makes the team within the large circle invulnerable to damage (Zen himself cannot be killed, stunned, etc.)
Try playing Winston as an aggressive tank. Use him to hunt down harder to reach characters like Widowmaker or Hanzo. Also his bubble shield only holds back about 600 damage. His Ultra grants him 1000 HP, don't try and kill people with it, his damage during this time is pretty low. Use it to disrupt and make people move from you (and hopefully the point)
>>337767391
designated
>>337767128
False m8.
But Lucio's heal aura stacks with other Lucio's, his speed aura does not unfortunately.
>>337767121
No she's not I won like crazy on attack with her because of that teleporter, if you sneak in behind the enemy and throw turrets to distract them it works wonders
Reaper can reload twice as fast if you reload then immediately press your melee button
>>337765573
This, singling out an enemy or two with an ice wall is great way to get your team to focus on two people (and kill them), and then give them an easier time killing the rest.
Her Ice wall is also really useful for plopping down in front of a Torbjorn turret as well to allow your team to advance to eliminate it. Not so useful against a bastion since they quickly break the part of the wall right in front of them.
>>337766661
in volskaya industries attack is a little gap in the left that let you right to the point
>>337766330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB-IDAkb6og
we will never have custom map just to rollerwalljump
genji cant climb meis wall
bastion can go into turret mode in the air
double symmetra ults stacked will crash the game if you take it
roadhogs chain as curve if you hold crouch
junkrat can double mine jump
symmetra can place more than 3 turrets
pharahs ult can clip through the floor if you get under it correctly
meis wall can 1 shot if you can squish them
holding mouse1 while in ghost form will make the first shot do no damage
turn off sticky keys when playing tracer
roadhog can hook divas mech when its ulting
you can cancel meis iceblock early
>>337767685
Every hero is good against shitters.
>>337766661
did he died?
if you want to climb elo, practice winston, widowmaker, and mccree
>>337766987
>only pick her for defense
she is fine on offense
her role as offense doesn't change. Faster teleport returning team and creative use of powers
If you're playing Lucio and the opponent has a Junkrat, it is your DUTY to deflect it. Rightclick can knock it into a wall, doing significant but not necessarily mortal damage to you, and there's NOTHING the Junkrat can do to stop it.
>>337767958
his boss probably killed him
Couldn't find a video, so I made a diagram
When playing D.Va, try to fit your ulting mech into this area, It's much harder to dodge away from, and people are more likely to think they're safe when they aren't.
This applies especially well on that one greece map, and some of the china ones.
>>337768571
wtf am i looking at
>>337762370
Genji can also deflect Road Hogs chain
>>337768750
sorry my man lemme zoom it in for you here you go bud
>>337767903
>double mine jump
but how
>>337769201
Put down mine
Wait 6 seconds (ideally this is done before ulting or on the ramp to the round start thing so you're not just standing there like a booger eater)
fly
put down new mine
fly again
Bastion has a hidden passive where upon going turret mode you are labeled as a piece of shit person who should uninstall game and jump off a bridge
>>337767903
>turn off sticky keys when playing tracer
>>337763672
Edwards mom
>>337769331
shitter detected
>>337767703
Does this work for all characters
>>337767903
Symmetra is 6 turrets before they start replacing each other right?
>>337764250
How do you blow your own TP?
Also her Ult needs to be fixed. There's no excuse for it expiring.
>>337762370
Genji can also deflect Pharah's rockets, even from the air
>>337767903
Doesn't alt-fire trigger her warp too? why would sticky keys need to be disabled, why do you have it on in the first place.
>>337761590
It only takes 4 to 5 midrange blasts with the scrap gun to break Rein's shield
pop pop pop, reload, pop, hook, pop pop DEAD
>>337765208
>D.Va: If you happen to call in a mech on an enemy, it will smash on them with about 30-50 dmg
Meanwhile, Mei can't crush enemies with her Ice Block
UNEXCUSABLE.
Do not let Widowmaker's succulent ass fool you, she is secretly a Frenchwoman.
>>337769002
Disappointed that it doesn't pull roadhog towards you.
You can destroy Mei's walls earlier by activating the ability again.
Useful for when you know you dun goofed. I generally destroy them as soon as I am done using them.
>>337767903
>roadhog chain can curve if you hold crouch
what does this mean? any videos of it for example? I unbound my crouch button because I thought crouching was useless in this game
When playing Hanzo you can kill fast squishies that are running near you (like Tracer) by selecting Scatter Shot and aiming at the floor in front of their feet. Multiple shots will bounce off the floor directly into them and almost always kill them immediately. Obviously the closer to their feet you manage to hit the more damage it will do, but the higher the risk that you miss. So it's a balancing act between how accurate you think you can be given their distance and how fast/erratically they're moving.
>>337765573
It requires some proper aiming though.
More often than not I propel enemies upwards with the wall if they're advancing on me.
>>337763857
She's a walking Void Ray from Starcraft 2. I rip Roadhogs apart with her primary weapon.
Also, her turrets have literally 1 hp. Everything kills them.
If you fap to Winston you can become a furry.
>>337763095
also if you are fast enough midair, you can turn around and throw a mine behind you turn back around and detonate it
>>337766156
It's written in its description, m8
>>337770320
works great on tanks too, because of their large hitboxes you can be even more inaccurate
I hate how some roofs you can stand on while from others you just slide.
Are there any maps for high ground or something?
>>337770257
I'd also like to know. Never heard of it before and I played roadhog for hours during the beta
torbjörn can repair his turret a lot faster if you cancel the swing animation by switching to your gun and then back again instantly. It's useless during his ultimate though
>>337762370
>>337763334
It probably is intentional, because he can reflect virtually everything including a ton of things you wouldn't expect. From relatively obvious stuff like >>337769796 Pharah's rockets (including her ult) to stuff like Mei's ult (her little robot that she tosses is considered a projectile that Genji can reflect before it lands).
>>337770129
You can also rotate the wall before you put it down, great for getting to higher places with a quick movement.
>>337769331
How the fuck else are you supposed to play him? You become a weak soldier 76 outside minigun stance
>>337770762
People are mad, its the way around here. Tho i do agree, he does not deserve the play of the game so fucking often.
>>337763509
>>337763672
>mfw I accidentally headshot and kill a shitty Reaper with the Hanzo ult arrow
>>337767903
But I've climbed Mei's wall as Genji 3 different times on 3 different maps?
>>337767903
>double symmetra ults stacked will crash the game if you take it
What do you mean by that?
Symmetra doesn't gain Ult until her Teleporter is broken.
Two Symmetras work just fine
>>337770113
For what purpose?
Hog would enjoy that just as much.
>>337770985
yeah disregard that one i also climbed the wall multiple times, unless it was too close to the ceiling its 100% climbable.
>>337770837
>you work your ass off all game, get 2 gold medals, essentially responsible for the team's victory
>POTG is a Bastion getting a double kill
>>337770762
Only retards complain about Bastion, hes easy to deal with.
>>337770748
How exactly?
>>337771275
Hit the ability button again.
>>337771247
what a shitter, only getting 2 gold medals
>overwatch PROTIP#1!!: activate your ult to kill the enemy team
>>337763095
It's like Christmas mornin'...
>>337771345
Seriously? I thought it cancels it.
Fucking hell, I was certain it could be rotated the whole time, but couldn't figure out how
>>337765208
>Reinhardt shield will soak dmg from Symmetras turrets. Fully charged it will also block a D.Va ult in front of it, so your team just has to get behind you.
Probably doesn't even have to be fully charged, his shield eats a lot of instant-kill ults for very reduced damage. Of the top of my head I know it barely takes damage from McRee's, Tracer's, Reaper's, and Junkrat's ults as long as they're coming from the front. Roadhog's ults wreck his shield pretty hard though.
>>337771493
Yeah I don't remember the game telling you in F1.
>>337771471
Oh shit son, what's your stream so I can learn from the master?
>>337766330
>>337766569
>>337767882
On the map which is some asian business district (I forget what It's called) there's a point inside a hexagonal room with a high ceiling which you can run around the top ad infinitum. Can really mess up the opposing team's capture efforts, hardly anyone thinks to look up there and your aura can still reach the ground.
>>337771471
Only retards die to enemy ults
TIP
McREEE players are trash, and while playing Tracer, Reaper, Genji, Mei, or McRee himself, you should always instantly react with a dodge/invulnerability. McRee shitters rely on their stun grenade to get any kills, so by dodging their grenade you can have a fair shooting match. All McRee shitters will INSTANTLY throw their grenade as soon as you cross paths. It is their crutch that they rely on. He still puts out very high damageif he can aim, which McRee players can't unless you're standing stillso use caution.
>>337771610
So overwatch players are retards is that what you're saying?
>>337771493
Note that it's not free rotation; it switches it from going across your line of fire to lining up with it.
>>337771805
What about McCrees who actually know how to aim?
>>337771805
Only bad McCrees rely on their grenade alone. Good ones will fake you out with it and better ones will use their pistol from long range and switch between long range zoning people out and short range stuns. Your ideas about instantly reacting with a dodge/invulnerability will start failing once you get matched up against better and better people.
>>337771820
Yeah a lot of them so far.
Makes it that much more fun to kill them.
Remember that people who play <class> are stinky idiots!
>>337767121
What's wrong with having a character only strong in Defense? Knowing when and where to pick certain characters is an important part of this game. This is also why you're an idiot if you exclusively main anybody.
>>337771805
>game ends
>McREEEEE has 22 kills, seems respectable20 are fan the hammer killsI know its powerful as shit but do McREEEEs even both with LMB? Do they merely just go for easy mode bangfan kills?
>>337772041
That's great :))))
HIGHLY SKILLED McRee players have control over the outcome because the animation for their grenade is faster than normal reaction time, especially in the middle of a fight. So they just have to wait to press their instant-win button, while everybody else has to be reactive and have a <100ms reaction.
>>337772131
McCree's pistol is as good as a sniper rifle, the only drawback being that you can't see from afar like Widowmaker can. But good players with good aim will use it as such and effectively zone people out of entire areas. Couple that with McCree's capability for short range combat as well and he's one of the best characters in the game for people who know how to play.
>>337772131
>do McREEEEs even both with LMB?
Why would you? It's only good at range because it's hitscan. In fact, if you saw McCrees in the beta getting tons of kills with it, it was probably someone aimhacking solely for that reason.
>>337772041
It's good that I'm such an expert at baiting abilities in Dota, I can bait failed lolgrenades out of the best McReetards.
>>337763857
nice thighs
>>337763857
her turrets can stick to payloads. I'm guessing you can stick them to the moving platforms too. Get enough of them and they should fuck up enemy teams.
>>337772260
>McCree's pistol is as good as a sniper rifle
He only does 50% damage at long range (35 dmg with a bodyshot)
>>337765193
drop down on people to kill them. It's free headshots and you have more horizontal movement in the air.
Also if a mei freezes you turn around so she can't headshot you. Running away with D.va basically halves the damage you take.
Tips for aspiring D.va players
>try to shoot down onto the enemy as your fusion blasters are more likely to inflict headshots
>you can send your imploding mech ahead of you using boost as you bail out
>always have an escape route so you can boost away when on low health
>defence matrix is capable of blocking all projectiles in the game
>you can boost out of Roadhog's hook
>you only need to do damage with the light gun to get your mech back, spam it into crowds of enemies or focus it on weaker heroes while staying back (Doing damage to shields does NOT count here)
>>337771247
no the POTG is always a Hanzo using his meme ult if there is one in the game or a torjborn walking around while his turret gets kills
>>337772782
>tfw you can headshot with Mcree
He's insane. No wonder every Pro team picks him
>Instawins Close engagement with 12 shot barrage
>Long range pros can headshot Squishies for insane damage
>mid range he's only decent, but not bad
>>337772716
I hate that she's limited to how many turrets she can place. I wanted to have at least 10 or 15 turrets guarding a spot but it only allowed , like, 5 or 6.
If you use your Q, you can one shot at least one enemy without them having counterplay. This works on any character.
>>337773024
I just wish I could pick up turrets.
>>337772958
>>Long range pros can headshot Squishies for insane damage
70 hp is insane damage?
He is really good overall, but I don't think he is OP at long range. You need 3 headshots at long range to kill the squishiest character. And if you do 3 headshots at long range with McCree before they run away, you deserve the kill.
What's the best counter pick to deal withthe glaringly bright/blurry lighting. My fucking eyes hurt playing this shit
>>337773603
Have you tried adjusting the gamma correction, brightness, and contrast in the options menu?
Because it looks like you haven't.
>>337773531
It is insane, since it forces almost everyone in the cast to retreat.
McCree needs to be made into a strictly long range character to compliment the other attack heros (Reaper-close, S76 -Mid, McCree- Long) Right now he's too proficient at close range which sort of muscles in on Reaper's territory.
>>337773603
But that's a description of Battleborn if anything. Overwatch's environments are subtle and neutral to emphasize the presence of the characters which are bright and colourful in comparison. It does get a little overwhelming at times but I think it's easily fixable by not having so many fucking notifications clutter the screen.
>>337772928
>>you can boost out of Roadhog's hook
After getting grabbed? How does that work/look?
>>337773874
You press E after being hooked, you can still cast abilities when Roadhog hooks anyone.
>>337773964
Left shift** My bad
>>337767903
>holding mouse1 while in ghost form will make the first shot do no damage
is this referring to Reaper?
>you can cancel meis iceblock early
HOW?
>>337761590
there is no point in reloading as bastion in turret mode switching out and switching back into turrert mode is MUCH faster
>>337773737
But long range is hanzo/widowmaker territory and even if they are "defense characters", you can use them while attacking.
And you would have to change his fan the hammer/flashbang completely to make him bad at close range.
How would you do it?
>>337773964
Weird, I always thought I was stunned during the animation. I'll try that then. I take you just boost towards him to push him away? Or can you actually juts fly out of the chain animation?
>>337773861
That picture is just a UI clusterfuck. The lighting in overwatch in certain areas is just blurry as fuck. Here's a small example, but some large open areas have the sun hitting the cement and the entire floor just looks like this mess
>>337773024
More than two turrets at one spot are a waste of you skill.
They'll be blown by one explosion or any aoe anyway.
You should spread your turrets and cover side routes, turrets never should be main defense.
Put them in blind corners, behind foilage and on ceiling. Never place them on the same spots twice in a row
>>337774205
Turn quality down? It really didn't bother me much.
>>337774067
>Hanzo
Too unreliable. Hitscan>Projectiles. Widowmaker is useful, but remember McCree is SUCH a dangerous character in close range(Coupled with his long range damage). Meaning, he can roam around the map and deliver instakills with his flashbang combo.
McCree can
>Push with team
>Hold corners
>Deliver good damage
>Obliterate tanks with Roll+Flashbang
I would just make the flashbang more of an escape tool. Flashbang+roll away rather than flashbang+12 gun salute. How? Flashbanged players take 75% less damage. Make the roll twice as long and you have a character.
>>337774372
I had them in blind corners 2 at a time but yeah I should spread them out more.
This game needs to hurry up already. hope they don't change anything.
>>337774205
Yeah I remember lighting in closed areas in particular being rather artificial, so you can look around and find odd things if you pay really close attention and know what you're looking for. On the whole though OW's colour palette and lighting is good. This is where Battleborn falls flat on it's face and that game's aesthetic disgusts me.I'm a commission painter and have been for ~8 years, although I painted for longer than that as a hobby before that, I know my shit
>>337774485
Adding in a lasso as a stun tool would be a cool replacement.
>>337774485
>Flashbanged players take 75% less damage
Not bad, but it should be only damage from McCree , not all sources
If you aim Reaper's teleport close enough to an enemy, his voice clip won't play.
Snuck up on snipers and turrets all day like that.
>>337773964
Not sure about D.Va but you can't recall as Tracer when you're hooked
Protip: Everything can kill Zenyatta in one hit.
Everything.
>>337774764
aww shit. good to know.
>everything ITT will be nerfed or removed
>>337774851
I think there's going to be a lot of experimenting and myth busting on launch.
With Reinhardt, you can pin D.Va's mech during her ultimate to get it away from your team/objective and possibly kill her with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F2YZ0FN2pY
>>337767882
holy fucking zambonies that's really neat actually
>>337765541
Don't peek out at a chokepoint, get up somewhere high behind or on the sides of the defending team where they don't expect you
>>337774987
the only reason I might wait before buying. to see if they changed anything from the beta.
that was the most fun I've had gaming in a while and would love to have a go to game for the rest of the year, this gen.
>>337774987
>tfw Blizzard nerfs shit that's actually balanced because of salty pub shitters who don't know how to play
Zarya's ult can grab people through walls.
If you press Mei's E a second time, the shield will switch from horizontal to vertical
Pressing Shift as Soldier makes you run ahead of your team and die alone like a retard.
Tip
Playing as Mei will cause even the most reasonable of enemy teams to despise you, and your team will consider you less of a human being.
>>337775701
I still don't undersatnd how she's so feared?
she builds the wall and heals herself. ans? her spike gun is slow and her freeze gun is at point blank range. shes at a huge disadvantage to skilled players.
>>337775831
She's good at shitting on shitters. She's the best in pugs and the worst in competitive play because of this.
>>337775831
The problem is the maps often force teams to fight that close and Mei becomes unavoidable in a lot of circumstances. When those circumstances occur you're just fucked unless you can do lots of damage at close range. Ilios and King's Row are good examples of really close quarter maps.
>>337775251
>salty pub shitters
And what exactly makes you so different from them?
Did Blizzard invite you to play on super secret custom servers? No?
>>337776161
There is a huge difference in player quality between the closed and open beta. You wouldn't know this unless you were part of it.
>>337776161
>And what exactly makes you so different from them?
I'm not the type to immediately call something OP because it killed me.
>>337776091
Not only that but her icethrower's range is bigger than I imagined. She's often compared to Pyro but Pyro wishes he had that range on his main weapon and the ability to freeze an enemy completely.
Overwatch does really well with audio indication, but what I want to see is better visual cues. Maybe three phases of a damaged Reinhardt shield instead of one, and 2-3 phases of cracking on pieces of Mei's wall instead of it just being there or not being there. Those are the two biggest things I think.
Nice thread OP, but pic related is where the "higher level mechanics" are
>>337765049
>if you're playing mei and icewall at a bad place, you can just press the hotkey again and the icewall gets destroyed instantly
Fuck this, I always destroy my wall after putting it down when I get desperate. Wish I could turn this option off.
>>337776454
This. Any true /v/tard knows this is the superior MOBA shooter.
>>337776454
Shhhhh, you're going to rustle the TF2 bronies jimmies
>>337776525
>superior MOBA shooter.
its the only one. Overwatch isn't a moba.
>>337776417
That's pretty picky, anon. Reinhardt's shield is fine, when it appears cracked it might be time to pull back, no need to throw in extra useless feedback. Mei's wall is fine, but I wouldn't say no to your suggestion. It's difficult to tell how damaged her wall is.
>>337776651
It's MOBA influenced.
>>337776417
There is multiple damage phases in Reinhardts shield. The cracks in a nearly depleted shield are way more noticeable than one that is only lightly damaged.
I played a lot of Reinhardt and shot a lot of Reinhardts so I got to know it very well.
Here's a really simple one with Mei that I never see anyone using - you can create a wall under yourself to reach some areas.
>>337776709
How? Skills and heroes make a MOBA now?
>>337761590
Mcree tip!
Mcree wins a fight between any character while his stun grenade is up!
Don't be within LoS of him under any circumstance when his stun grenade is off cooldown!
>>337776454
If it were playtested better it'd be great. But it wasn't.
>>337774059
Press E again, dummy.
Also, half that post was ironic shitposting
>>337763741
Wait you can have specific control settings for each hero? That was exactly what I had wanted for zenyatta so I can rebind his heal orb to right click, had no idea it was there the whole time during the beta.
>>337776878
oh I thought you meant an enemy could end her ice block prematurely, nvm the excite is gone :(
>>337776831
But McRee takes skill! That can't be true!
what's the closest to source zoom sensitivity for widowmaker's zoom? i couldn't find something comfortable after like half an hour, and from memory zoom sensitivity is fine in csgo/tf2 for me.
also, what neat shit can i do with hanzo/phara/zenyatta that might not be obvious?
>>337776975
Mcree tip!
Mcree takes the least skill out of any hero in the game Overwatch!
Play him if you are new or want to be able to kill other players of higher skill level!
>>337776454
>developed by incompetent plagiarist liars notorious for abandoning games that aren't overwhelmingly successful
>obnoxious burch-tier ""humour"" appeals only to literal children
>poorly advertised leading to a spread of misinformation and tiny population
>characters and artstyle are an inconsistent mess
>singleplayer content can be finished in <4 hours and is standard boredomlands bullet sponge shit without the appeal of muh zillion guns
>gameplay is a clusterfuck eyesore with so much shit happening on the screen at one time
>laughable balance
>DOA
No thanks
>>337771247
>2 gold metals
>not 5, as lucio, with 20 plus eliminations, and constant payload blocking, didn't even make commendation board while everyone else was fucking fafing about the whole game
>PotG is a bastion or a hanzo ult
Blizzard needs to fix that shit by making ults not qualify for PotG because 10+ characters Ults do not kill or even damage, so its almost guaranteed to be hanzo or bastion
>>337777145
You didn't read this thread at all before making that post did you?
Who takes more skill to kill at close range, McCree or Roadhog? Both get a free kill every few seconds, but which one has to work harder for it?
>>337776709
'no'
>>337773139
I tried this on symmetra it didn't work
>>337777304
You will beat a bad McCree 9 times out of 10. You can still lose to a bad Roadhog if the cards fall wrong.
>>337777278
Sorry, 2 gold medals was a big deal for me when they appeared as I only played the beta for 2 days.
>>337776831
Goddamn pocket sand is retarded
>>337776709
I wish your mother was influenced into getting an abortion.
>>337777467
nigger you get 2 gold metals for just pushing the objective for any amount of time greater than 0 seconds
>>337776454
Top fucking kek
Only played the beta a bit at a buddy's but I'm picking it up next Tuesday for sure.
What exactly is the bar with the flame icon below your player icon/health bar? When it fills up a flame effect appears behind your icon, but I could never figure out exactly what that does.
>>337777777
o
>>337777963
It means you're hot shit. Not joking.
>>337777963
It's literally just an e-peen meter
>>337778012
Groovy, so there's no buff or anything associated with it?
>>337777963
That meter builds when you deal damage, heal an ally, or do objectives
The "Play of the Game" is based on how much of that meter is gained during a period of about 10 seconds IIRC(which is why so many ults and Bastions get them at lower levels of play)
>>337777963
It is a virtually worthless indicator that a particular player is shitting on everyone, in case nobody noticed them. It serves no utility and doesn't seem to modify score or anything.
>>337778131
It's a meter that's there to reflect how well you're playing your specific character. There's a stat that can come up for commendations in the post-game screen, but that's pretty much it.
Lucio and McCree need to be nerfed into the fucking ground
>>337778131
Apparently it was being reworked but for now it's just self-gratification that you're doing well. It's visible to everyone in the scoreboard. I don't really see a problem with it, I find t satisfying.
>>337778295
>Lucio
Nothing wrong with him at all
>McCree
One trick pony with an easily avoidable ultimate
Who else should be nerfed?
>>337778295
>Lucio and McCree need to be nerfed into the fucking ground
>Lucio
why the hell?
his heal is irrelevant next to his speed boost, and his damage is irrelevant except for rare environment kills
>>337775831
>Freeze gun adds a slow in game where everyone but two characters move at the same speed
>Range is decently far
>Freeze takes about 4 seconds which is near unavoidable unless you can escape
>Get to watch Mei line up a headshot for free which kills almost every character.
>>337778413
>Nothing wrong with him at all
he heals without line of sight and is the strongest healer, his self heals can outheal almost everything but an ult
he is too deadly on certain maps with an instant kill ability
has the most mobility of all the healers
his primary does a shitload of damage
basically he is a totally broken and shitty character that isn't fun to play against at all
>>337778660
Mei apologists are the absolute worst part of Overwatch.
DUDE JUST STAY AWAY FROM HER LMAO
>>337778562
Lucio's sheer versatility means that he can and pretty much should be in any respectable team composition
Mercy is the best pocket-healer, Symmetra is okay sometimes, and Zenyatta is but a shadow of his former glory
>>337761590
>overwatch
>higher level mechanics
All the tricks posted here remind of how casual blizzard games are.
>>337778660
Mei is designed to punish characters with no escapes like D.va's jets or Junkrats sticky jump. She is especially deadly to characters with no mobility like Roadhog.
>>337765631
Zarya's shield will let you survive anything. I've stopped a push by blocking a DVa ult and mashing that m2.
>>337778678
You could have organized that instead of mishmashing that shit, but that require knowing how to read and write.
>he heals without line of sight and is the strongest healer, his self heals can outheal almost everything but an ult
Without the E skill buff (which lasts 3 seconds) Lucio's healing is extremely passive at 12.5 HP/sec as opposed to Mercy's 50 HP/sec and Zenyatta's 30 HP/sec.
>has the most mobility of all the healers
Mercy can fucking fly when paired with Pharah, and can leap over to team mates across massive distances without any cooldown. She can also glide.
>he is too deadly on certain maps with an instant kill ability
His ultimate is the only one which can be called an instant kill, but using it announces to the entire server you are vulnerable for around 2-3 seconds before you can fire accurately. Taking cover from it for 2 seconds is not difficult and renders it useless.
>his primary does a shitload of damage
To compensate for a lack of speed, armour/shields, and no escape. He is a 1-trick pony.
Consider suicide.
>>337779112
It blocks next to no damage for absolutely not time, and gives you max haft charge even if you block everything successfully
>>337779026
wtf are you talking about doesnt matter that roadhog has no mobility, his sheer amount of heath means that a freeze + headshot isnt even going to kill by the time he thaws out. Chain + shotgun as soon as you thaw out and she cant even set up a wall or ice block herself thx to chain stun.
>>337779195
It's funny because he's a staple pick in most every comp game and considered OP
>>337770257
Apparently crouching is useful to hold when you unfreeze yourself as Mei, as people can't instantly headshot you. It's also sometimes useful for hiding behind the payload.
>>337779304
He's a staple pick because he offers something other heroes don't: mobility for the whole team. That's not overpowered, it's just unique.
If he was overpowered they would take JUST Lucio, just one. But they don't. The closest you get is double Lucio, and even then their auras apparently cannot overlap, so your ability to clutch heal is pretty weak with that comp.
>>337779195
Not him, did you switch from lucio to mcree halfway through your rebuttal?
because i think he was talking about lucio's knock back attack being instant kill, and the fact that lucios green projectiles have no fall off
I agree with you that lucio does not need a nerf, but your response was disjointed
>>337779195
>and can leap over to team mates across massive distances without any cooldown
It has a 2 second CD or something low like that.
>>337778678
>he heals without line of sight and is the strongest healer,
Actually, he needs to have a LoS (not necessarily looking though) to heal and his heal is shit. The aura is about as weak as Mercy's regen and AMP IT UP is on a 10s CD meaning that you won't be able to heal against sustained pushes from the enemy team.
>he is too deadly on certain maps with an instant kill ability
Yeah, I think it should be toned down a bit since it's literally free kills on most of Ilios and some other maps.
>has the most mobility of all the healers
Eh, I'd argue it's not much better than Mercy in the middle of a fight.
>his primary does a shitload of damage
Only if you can lead shots, which is difficult against an aware player.
I do agree that Lucio is pretty strong for what he is right now though. He's probably going to get some small nerfs before release just like Zenyatta did.
>>337779397
the heal aura doesn't stack with heal auras, the speed aurta doesn't stack with speed auras
one lucio dedicated to heal, and one to speed you do get both auras, but its rare to find 2 competent lucios in one match
>>337779397
>If he was overpowered they would take JUST Lucio, just one
That's a strange fucking reasoning, anon. Owerpowered doesn't mean single-handely game-winning, it means relatively seen better than other heroes. He's versatile, which means that he has speedboost when needed, health when needed, decent autoattack, mobility, and so on. It's the whole package that turns him into a really solid pick
>>337779213
It blocks literally all damage for those 2 seconds.
I've survived Dva Ults, Reinhardt charges, McCree ults, etc. with that stupid shield.
The only reason why Zarya isn't an OP piece of shit is that her shields have like 10s CDs or something, which is just way too long.
>>337779438
It was in response to a disjointed and retarded post, sorry. Yes I switched to discussing Mcree half way.
>>337779479
>Yeah, I think it should be toned down a bit since it's literally free kills on most of Ilios and some other maps.
every knockback character gets free kills on cliff maps, lucio is doubly weak in this regard because he has to be point blank, where phara does not even need to see you
>>337779593
could have fooled me
I timed those shields on me and allies perfectly every time and they popped after taking absolutely no damage and i could barely maintain 30% charge, even after absorbing an ult
>>337761590
>Implying strategy matters when the game only has a fucking 20 tick rate
Half the shit you do won't even register with the server, why fucking try?
>>337779213
Let me break it down. The shield only lasts 2 seconds and will disappear after it takes 200 damage. However, even if the shield has already absorbed 199 damage you can still block a riptire or the damage from Hasslehof's pin. It will not rollover and damage you or an ally's health. Also, an ally shield works just the same but that cap is 400.
>>337779654
Either you're playing with 200 ping or you're lying.
You can even test it out yourself once the game goes live.
>>337778792
>Genji dashes or wall climbs away
>Mcree rolls away or forward for the point blank stun and fan
>Reaper can kill her before he freezes up close, or just wraiths right before the freeze and finishes her off
>76 can sprint away before the slow gets going, or just tank her whole combo inside his heal
>Tracer blinks or rewinds away
>Hanzo instakills her with a scatter arrow between the legs
>Junkrat just jumps away
>Widowmaker just grapples away
>Mercy zooms off to a distant teammate
>Lucio knocks her back then speeds himself away
>All the tanks but Zarya at low energy can't give the slightest fuck about Mei's combo
Psst, Mei is a pubstomper like Bastion that turns into a utility character once people stop being shit.
>>337767739
If you're junkrat and attacking, go up the right elevator on your side of the last point. You can mine jump around the side pretty easily.
>>337779545
Right that's what I mean, one Lucio is completely dedicated to healing, while the other is on mobility. You can't double up on healing to make your team damn near invulnerable through sustain, or faster than light via his speed boosts. It's just group healing + group speed. It's a good comp, but you can't spot heal or damage amp like a Mercy offers.
>>337779568
He is a solid pick, not overpowered. He is certainly a better support pick than Zenny or Sym at the moment. But he can't do all that shit at the same time, nor can he do any of it all that well. Zenny has a better damage output, being able to Discord orb, and his own damage is reliable and very high. Mercy can heal better unless all damage your team takes is simultaneously spread out over the whole team. The one thing he offers that is unique to him is a mobility boost for the team. It's just that that unique thing is so valuable that he is THE go-to hero. He doesn't deserve to be nerfed, other supports need to have similar capabilities/must-have elements that would make them compete for his slot.
>>337779745
>200 damage
>400 damage
why the hell does it have a damage cap if its already that fucking short?
>>337779195
>can't into reading comprehension
Every point I made was a point about Lucio dickweed. He is the strongest healer because he can support a whole team with his AOE heals and he can't die when he mashes his E or Ult, which is basically a better Zenyatta AOE.
>Mercy can fucking fly when paired with Pharah, and can leap over to team mates across massive distances without any cooldown. She can also glide.
Lucio has the most individual mobility of all the supports because all of mercy's mobility depends on your teammates not being retarded which is impossible, you can't have any mobility when none of your team is coordinated. Meanwhile Lucio zips around with his speed which takes no coordination with any teammates which gives him easy escapes and easy access to the front line.
His primary is super strong, his mobility is super strong, his healing is super strong. everything about the class makes him a one man army which should not be acceptable. He should be mobile and nothing else.
>>337779759
>Psst, Mei is a pubstomper like Bastion that turns into a utility character once people stop being shit.
Why is she never picked in comp games
Her wall is such insane utility
>>337779836
To allow counterplay - In practical use the thing is damn near infinite shields. But it's not so infinite that extremely high sustained damage won't shred it apart in under a second and then follow up with her: see Bastion Sentry mode, Pharah/Reaper ults, etc etc.
>>337779836
I guess they felt being able to block anything once was already good enough. You're guess is as good as mine. Her ult is really good though.
>>337779593
It blocks 200 damage, with no spillover from the attack that breaks it.
>>337779778
>Mercy can heal better unless all damage your team takes is simultaneously spread out over the whole team.
If your team is smart Mercy can generally keep them alive unless the enemy team is a coordinated hivemind that just bursts down people 1by1.
>>337771471
>Fighting off two people
>Kill them
>Reaper turns corner and hits me once for a kill
>Protip: Watch out for Reapers from behind!
thanks overwatch
>>337779889
High-mobility characters are popular, she doesn't add much to a team, Reinhardt shield works like her wall but lasts longer.
>>337779836
Because giving a hero an invincibility button for himself/teammates is bad design 101?
>>337780017
>1by1
In that case just play discord orb, the character.
>>337779889
>>337780036
Oh, and she's bad in big fights.
>>337776709
>having multiple skills is now credited to mobas
>>337779931
400 and 200 without spillover is in no way "practically infinite"
it should last that length of time and all damage should add to its charge
If you don't want to give her charge don't shoot her, but she should be damn invincible for the whole fucking time
She literally does nothing else but shield
not to mention her fucking beam does piss damage even when fully charged
>>337779948
and her ult is annoying but useless without anyone else to actually deal damage
Hey, so does Mercy's boost affect ult damage or nah? I kept on damage boosting Soldier 76s that were ulting and I had no idea if it affected anything.
>>337780095
Shielding is all she does and you think I'm the bad designer, because i want her shield to actually work?
>>337780174
>She doesn't have an ult that can basically ace a team that's clumped up
>She doesn't have high powered grenades at 100 charge
Yeah, you're a bad designer.
>>337780151
>Hey, so does Mercy's boost affect ult damage
Yes
It even makes McCree's ultimate draw a bead faster
>game isn't even out
>all these little tips and tricks
Damn Blizzard is too powerful. They won.
>>337780017
Right, again what I'm talking about - Lucio is greater heals per second if you assume they're all actually happening. Something like 72 hp/s passively even without his E. However, Mercy's heals are more targeted, and thus more meaningful. She'll keep that one important player alive through the other team's attempt to kill them, let Pharah's ult actually happen instead of instantly disappear, get a Winston that just returned from electrifying their Widowmaker back to full health before his next leap is off cooldown so he can go right back out - stuff like that. Lucio generally cannot fill that role, and he certainly can't do it while also keeping his team mobile. Hence why you see Lucio and Mercy paired so often.
>>337780123
160 dps is fairly high for something so absurdly easy to aim and has a medium range - even melee Reinhardt won't do that much. And practically infinite means 'unless their whole team is shooting the shield for the whole 2 seconds, the duration will probably just run out'. 2 Pharah direct rockets would do it, which takes almost 2 seconds counting travel time. If you waltz through a Junkrat'd hallway you could remove it quickly, but elsewise it requires a concentrated fire of multiple people to remove it prior to the duration. For most her shield just becomes a big 'don't shoot this' sign.
Zarya is a pretty damn highly valued pick.
>>337780151
Yes.
>>337780151
Pretty sure it's a flat +30% damage to any attack.
>>337780268
Her ult is only annoying and the grenade aoe range is pitiful even when you caught every fucking opponent in it and you are directly hitting them
>>337780312
>Zarya is a pretty damn highly valued pick.
I wish
>>337780312
>Zarya is a pretty damn highly valued pick.
No she isn't.
At high levels no one will shoot at you once they see the bubble go up.
Maintaining her energy charge is a pain if the enemy aren't braindead since you have to bait them and hope they shoot at you (but dont kill you) before your shield comes up.
>>337770320
>YOU CAN KILL PEOPLE BY MISSING!!1! xD
This is why the game is shit
>>337780451
>Her ult is only annoying
>grenade aoe range is pitiful
Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again.
>>337777809
Why use that stupid meme picture when the actual screenshots are even worse?
>>337776709
Hold up guys, I thought they came out and acknowledged the moba influence?
Granted, if there was one it is very small.
>>337780607
your a fucking idiot because Pharas ult is what killed them you dipshit, which supports my point,
you didn't even get any fucking epeen flame for that if you noticed
>>337780619
>>337777809
wow it really is worse
>>337780619
how did this neon spam make it past the alpha stage?
I almost fell for this game
>>337780504
>>337780535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-UnsT1i1_k
Last high level play I saw had her a few times in there. She's extremely annoying to flankers since she's hard to kill and gets in the way of them killing others while also harassing around corners/long range with her RMB. Her ult is also a team wiper if there's follow up to it.
Of course like any hero not named Mercy, Lucio, or McCree, she's situational.
>>337780734
Pharah's ult wouldn't have killed them without the Zarya ult holding them in place you dumb cuck.
>>337780668
>skills, heroes, ults, potg
Its certainly not a standard FPS or even class based shooter, its much more akin to a moba shooter
>>337780451
Her ult is a lot more than annoying. The synergy a team can have with it is likely among the best in the entire spread of the cast.
Also, you can just toss it out to stop an entire enemy team pushing.
"Let's break it down?" Let's not and say we did. Someone wipes the enemy team and Mercy dashes in and picks them up? Great, now we get an ace instead of a four piece.
>>337780607
>didn't get the hog
>angle bitch just L shifted out
>phara ult actually killed them
what was your point again?
>>337778295
>Lucio
> a threat at all
Nerf Symmetra too right
>>337780827
>ignoring every other Phara ult without zarya's CC
>ignoring zaryas ult is worse than Meis
keep telling yourself that
>>337780852
I want this MOBA meme to end.
>>337780734
>>337780863
Do you faggots even know about teamplay
>>337780852
moba is such a dumb fucking buzzword
MULTIPLAYER ONLINE BATTLE ARENA COULD BE FUCKING ANYTHING
is quake 3 arena a moba? is fucking streetfighter a moba? whoever came up with this fucking acronym should be shot honestly.
>>337780912
You do realize if Pharah ulted there, the enemy team would've all spread out and could've turned to instagib her, right? Getting locked down in the gravity well is what allowed Pharah to fire into the entire team with impunity.
>>337780861
>"Let's break it down?" Let's not and say we did. Someone wipes the enemy team and Mercy dashes in and picks them up? Great, now we get an ace instead of a four piece.
what?
who mentioned lucio or mercy?
lucios ult is effectively irrelevant because the shield degrades faster than any damage it prevents
and mercy could just revive them after your gravity ball ends
>>337780985
It sounds better than ARTS desu senpai.
I'm glad Valve forcing it didn't turn out too well for them.
>>337781064
People used arts before Valve used it though
>>337778792
"D.va/Symmetra are totally fine!!" fags are a problem too.
There are people who legitimately think Blizzard doesn't need to change anything or something.
>>337781004
and how is that better than meis?
Meis slows to stun, zarya is only a weak root, and IN THE WEBM people escaped it with thier L SHIFT
not to mention the grenades did nothing compared to the ult, which was my original point that its annoying but useless without a damage character
>>337781037
I'm talking about how you can use Zarya's ult to counter-initiate the enemy team's ults. It is the biggest deny in the game.
>>337780978
>expecting teamplay in a team game
its [current year]
blizzard effectively designed this game so that characters can solo roam
>>337781108
Not to describe mobas though.
>>337781064
it's a broader term than your fucking mother, it's awful
action-rts at least implies that it's somewhat of a real-time-strategy game, but with more of an action focus (ditto for arpg)
multiplayer online battle arena could be anything from quake 3 arena to mario party, it's about as specific as going "it is a videogame"
>>337781225
You wot
Even in the open beta you pretty much had to teamplay after your first 20 or so games when you climbed out of the retard pool
>>337780797
>she's situational.
And also sucks
>>337781187
so is killing them first
so you are saying it makes opponent ults more useless if you save it to defeat them?
so you are effectively saying that her ult is useless? oh look at the goal posts fly by
>>337781149
>and how is that better than meis?
Because Mei takes about 4s to actually freeze someone, doesn't clump them all together, and characters like 76 and Lucio can actually get out of it if they're at the edges.
Zarya's ult is an instant AoE disable, which makes it safe and easy for Pharah to ult.
You sound like a shitter tbqh.
>>337781271
Yes they did
I played HoN long before doto2 was out and I used arts
>>337765612
>Roadhog can hook Junkrat's riptire ultimate.
This.
If you start holding left-click as soon as you leash someone, roadhog will fire his shotgun as soon as the hook drops. The junkrat won't have an opportunity to activate the explosion.
>>337770257
>crouching useless
>game with headshots
>>337780797
It's cool they are pushing it into a competitive thing and all, but it's sort of just as confusing to spectate as LoL can be
Okay, maybe a little less
>>337781149
Anon, you need to go back and watch it again. The only people who can get out of shit like that are Tracer and Mercy who could also escape Mei's ult.
What happened was that Hog had already booked it and was not at the stairs where Zarya aimed. Mercy uses him to escape but those two against the other 3 members of the attackers ate them alive anyway.
>>337781283
>real-time-strategy game
Any game can be real time strategy. CS:GO can be described as RTS due to the way you're employing tactics and strategy through the match.
Face it, 'genres' are all shitty descriptors that people only accept because it's been ingrained into them.
>>337781283
To be fair, other genre names aren't exactly descriptive either
'rpg' could be used for any game where you're controlling a character, hell even management games and grand strategy and whatnot since you're roleplaying as the leader of an empire
MOBA is shit because it's a constant reminder that Riots marketing team did a good job
>>337781342
you can just walk out of her ult, its a weak root, not a disable
its useless without damaged character, and expecting competent teammates is a fools errand, with only frustration at its end
>>337765631
Wait mercy has different levels of healing?
>>337781149
>and IN THE WEBM people escaped it with thier L SHIFT
Only one person escaped it: Mercy (but she can escape a Mei ult too).
>>337780607
Sigh..Why couldn't they just give her different hair default.
She was so..so very close to being cute..
>>337781448
>you can just walk out of her ult,
Oh, so you haven't played the game.
I'll give you a 4/10 since I did reply like 4 times.
>>337781342
not that guy who thinks it's weak but you can still shoot while trapped in Zarya's ult
>>337781409
could mercy have escaped meis ult in the same way?
would phara have fucking wiped those caught in meis? yes
is zarya useful in high skilled play? no, people don't feed her shield, and if you think they can escape mei's ult then they sure as hell know to escape zaryas, she's even less useful than mei at high levels
>>337781401
Yeah honestly the spectator tools suck. Not having a set viewpoint that offers a good overall view without buildings and shit getting in the way is rough.
>>337781326
Even with zero charge she can kill Tracer in under 2 seconds, effectively shutting that character off - half her health recharging also means harassment from Widowmaker body shots/Tracer/McCree potshots mean very little to her. I'd run over comparitive numbers for damage but I assume you have very little interest in actually reading.
>>337781561
You can't turn or move though if I recall.
Regardless, saying it's a weak ult is silly.
>>337781420
true, usually people associate rts with shit like starcraft or dow though and i'm just mad over semantics
>>337781438
it's the least descriptive out of many not too descriptive genre names i think, it's annoying and it doesn't really have a history behind it for people to put games under it like rpg/rts/fps, most people see those and think "oh, skyrim/starcraft/halo" or whatever
but still fuck moba it's the worst acronym
>>337763741
>Soldier 76 and Zarya can have friendly health bars turned on
Why the fuck can't everyone do this?
I've wanted this since I first got in. It's great to be able to know with a glance what health your companions have so you can predict their next actions or know who is likely to fall back.
>>337781547
Mercy flew out, tracer jumps out, roadhog wouldn't die unless in a second ult, junkrat would explosive jump out, only mid to low mobility are fucked, but WITHOUT A SECOND ULT THE GRAVITY BALL IS USELESS
>>337780985
I agree. That said does anyone really get confused when someone mentions it? I immediately think of Dota and LoL, which is primarily what the stupid terms used for anyway.
Hopefully one day MOBA will die as "genre"Yeah, I know it won't actually do that
>>337781586
>could mercy have escaped meis ult in the same way?
Yes?
>would phara have fucking wiped those caught in meis? yes
Maybe. Depends on if they can walk behind the plants in time.
Your waifu Mei sucks and isn't picked at high level play either, so I have no idea why you keep bringing Mei up. You're just embarrassing yourself.
>>337781606
yeah it's easily the best tank ult
>>337781339
Anon, you're a dope. Think for a second. I'm explaining that it has some of the most utility. Not only do you get to pin a bunch of fuckos into one spot and everyone melt them but in situations where they are extremely hard, if not impossible to kill, having a stocked Zar ult invalidates their push.
Pass into the iris? Fine, but you won't go anywhere and cannot push. Same principle as Lucio's overheal ult. A Mercy waiting to revive everyone after a fight is another huge boon that Zarya can just rip away from them.
just typed "overwatch" into pornhub for the first time in my life
damn
>>337781606
>You can't turn
yes you can turn in zaryas ult
you can't turn in mei'
I don't give a shit about waifu's i was just comparing their AoE CC you shitter
how much dmg boost does the mercy beam give?
also fuck blizzard for not putting this info in the description of the skills.
>>337781653
>Mercy flew out, tracer jumps out,
Yeah, but all of those characters can get out of a Mei ult too though.
>>337781743
woops
ate my backquote to
>>337781673
>>337781743
>you can't turn in mei'
Yes you can. You have about 4 seconds until you get frozen.
Mei is pretty weak familia. She's only good on like one defense map.
>>337778956
>former glory
What was he like before the open beta?
>>337781747
30% damage amp. This apparently even applies to McCree's 'growing' damage with his ult, so he has to target for less time before getting a lethal shot, or even to Torb's turret, regardless of where it is while you're buffing Torb.
>>337770113
Which would be literally the same as you being pulled.
>>337781763
no they can't because mei 's freeze is cumulative and tracer would have already been slowed
Unlikely event, but pretty cool. If you chain someone as Roadhog as you go through a teleporter, the enemy will still be caught, and will rocket at high speed toward the teleporter exit, regardless of how far away they are
>>337781524
Doesn't she look even weirder with different hair?
>>337781907
wait what?
Symmetras teleporter is one way from spawn, how the hell would that even happen?
>>337781885
Are you seriously saying that a Tracer can't blink out of a Mei ult and a Mercy can't fly to a distant teammate?
Are you seriously shitposting this hard?
Mei is not picked in competitive for a reason.
>>337781524
>not liking the Dib haircut
>>337781980
On some maps, the teleporter entrance can spawn in a location thats close enough to the spawn exit you can reach people with the chain.
I mean, its super unlikely to happen, but its possible
>>337761590
>Overwatch Tips and Tricks
Here's a tip
Play a better game.
>>337766330
oh my days
Meis wall can completely block the damage for you entire team from D.VA.s ult. If everyone is on the correct side of the wall that is.
>>337781970
Nevermind this is better
>>337778265
I play Zenyatta and I get that dumb flame everytime, even when I'm not killing anyone.
Feelsgood to Discord+headshot Tracers for a 1shot kill though.
>>337781837
Multiple Zenyattas used to be able to stack multiple Orbs of Harmony/Discord on a single target and they would never fall off unless Zenyatta switched targets or died, so you'd get ridiculous shit like double-Zenyatta, Symmetra(back when her shield was 50 instead of 25), and Tracer and/or Genji
>>337781984
For some reason people think if someone is their waifu they are also a good character
>>337781837
A broken piece of shit who could 1v1 nearly anyone at all ranges with infinite discord orb duration.
Open Beta Zenyatta mains basically want him to go back to this.
>>337767519
>False m8.
There's a fucking fucking card at the end of the round specifically for boosting the payload, retard.
Remember to pay attention to the sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_zqpdwBr5w
>>337775065
Can't wait.
TIP:
You know those basketballs and footballs that you find in the spawn room sometimes? You can attach objects to them. This includes Symmetra's turrets, Junkrat's Mine, and Junkrat's Trap.
You can get someone with a hitscan gun to shoot the ball about, which causes whatever's on it to go with it. You can shoot the ball all the way across the map, meaning that if you're skilled/lucky, you can place a trap and mine on the ball, shoot it toward someone, and trap them without them being able to do anything
>>337765049
>bullet spread
>soldier
o im laffin now anon
>>337782519
Yeah the sound design is actually pretty damn good
>>337767903
>turn off sticky keys when playing tracer
People actually use shift? Her blink is also default bound to right mouse, that's all I ever used.
Holding to sprint is fine, but it would be annoying as fuck to be tapping shift constantly for movement abilities.
>>337782208
Well, any wall, even the smallest, can completely block D.Va's ult damage, the best way to avoid her ult is not to run away but to find the nearest wall
>>337782542
I physically tremble in rage every time I see a Bastion potg because they are NEVER impressive.
>>337782550
this some next level shit
>>337782461
I used to play Zen in closed beta and I agree that he was retarded before
Now his orbs fall off after only 3 seconds of breaking LOS
Wouldn't mind if it was a second or two more
>>337780542
>Shot designed to do ricochet damage does ricochet damage
Might as well complain about the SAA in MGS.
>>337777278
>Blizzard needs to fix that shit by making ults not qualify for PotG
Congratulations, you just made EVERY SINGLE POTG that will ever be shown, ever, just Bastion holding M1.
>>337782715
well that's because you're an idiot. it's just some shitty algorithm and doesn't mean shit.
nobody cares about the play of the game except for autists like you.
>>337777278
>Blizzard needs to fix that shit by making ults not qualify for PotG
Holy shit who cares?
>>337782715
>>337782542
>mfw I was playing a game with a Bastion
>But it was I who got play of the game by killing 4 people with D.va ultimate
>>337781970
BROTHER!
>>337767882
>console cucks will never be able to pull this off
Just like they can't do Genji's reflect or wall climbing, or ever land headshots. God the console release is a joke, it feels good to get the real version.
>>337782997
BUT THE POTG COULD'VE GONE TO ME INSTEAD
>>337766273
roll is very minor distance, and it also reloads all your ammo so its not a good idea to use it right before you into a fight
>>337780619
There's no way this is real. What is wrong with this Ghalt guys face?
>>337780036
>Reinhardt
>Comp
Like 99% of the teams doing tournaments in the last 3 months of beta were the same, and didn't have Reinhardt.
They were Winston, Winston, Mercy, Lucio, McCree, Widowmaker
>>337782997
>try soldier 76 for first time
>pop ult and mow some faggots down with my aimbot
>it's the potg ofc
>both enemy and my team players start chimping out in chat how soldier takes no skill and I suck
I swear this feature is only in the game to get retards to rage at this point
>>337783313
Winston ?
What does he do outside of his e ?
>>337783313
that's just wrong. there were plenty of Reinhardts in the teams.
>>337783446
Winston is an anomoly in his design when it comes to competitive play. Unlike everyone else who synergizes best with someone else, Winston synergizes best with himself.
2 can completely lock down control points and routes better than all.
>>337783446
He jumps into the enemy team andgoes bananas
>>337783446
Jump into the enemy backline and disrupt the fuck out of it
>>337783446
HE DINDU NUFFIN
>>337783475
Maybe if you were watching joke tournaments or BNet official shit.
The big tournaments already started getting flak for being boring shit because every team was the same setup with the same strategy, the same thing that murdered WoW arena esport broadcasting after season 3.
>>337783446
The important part of that comp is Winston, Winston. One Winston doesn't do a whole lot of damage and is just a nuisance to everyone but Widowmaker. Two Winstons however do enough damage to a whole team that they fucking scatter everyone every time they jump in, then they just fuckin leave and heal up, then do it again. And eventually they get ult and stay in for 3 times as long. If the two Winstons are coordinating well, they will get kills before they have to jump out. It's the most disruptive shit.
However, the guy you're replying to is wrong, Reinhardt shows up all the fuckin time. On King's Row both teams have a Reinhardt pretty much every time. The double Winston only tends to pop out later into a match.
>>337783446
Pounce does AOE damage if you actually land it.
2 Winstons jump on you, zap you and you're dead in 2 seconds.
>>337783587
alright then name me a tournament that is representative in your pleb eyes and didn't have a Reinhardt in it
>>337783446
He's designed for being an annoying faggot. Back before his nerf his ult did more damage and his shield was stronger so he was this generalist that would jump around and chimp out ruining everyone's day.
He's just a shadow of his forme rself now though.
>>337783102
>God the console release is a joke, it feels good to get the real version.
>Implying the console version isn't the one the game is designed for while the PC was an afterthought.
It lacks a lot of standard shit, it took months to even get the ability to have alternate mouse sensitivty while scoping as Windowmaker. You can't even use anything but 2 aspect ratios and FOV is locked super low (and calced vertically, making it even worse).
I can use more ratios and resolutions in the 0.4a Alpha WoW client from September 2002
>>337783915
>>Implying the console version isn't the one the game is designed for while the PC was an afterthought.
I swear I've read this word for word back in 2008 for Console TF2.
>>337784003
You're right, it's just coincidence that a 20% complete WoW alpha from 2002 has more PC oriented graphics options than Overwatch.
For Lucio's ult to go off he has to actually hit the ground. Road Hog's ult can keep him in the air and make it so he can't ult. Only going off what happened to me once. Other heroes might be able to stop it as well.
>>337784201
Road Hogs hook interrupts all ults that require a start up animation before executing.
>>337783915
>blizzard
>pc is an afterthought
You are certified, right?
>>337782519
>isn't this audio mix better?!
>you now can't eat the fucking midget bumble behind you in the second video
This was meant to convince me?
>>337784561
>you now can't eat the fucking midget bumble
what?
FoV autists shitting up another thread I see
>>337782583
>>337782519
Overwatch is basically a sound based game. Ult callouts, gun sounds, every explosion sounds a slight bit different for each class, every hero even has different footstep sounds.
If you're actually good at the game/recognizing sounds, you can close your eyes and know absolutely everything that is happening around you.
You can really easily tell which people in your games are the ones that mute sound and listen to music.
>>337785302
>1 post about it
Yeah so many autists shitting up the thread.
Sorry not every eats tunnel vision shit like you, cyclops.
>>337785302
>Hey guys, situational awareness oriented shooter, but lets make it so you can see about as wide as your nose.
There was also one post that even said FOV in this thread other than you, and it also had valid points about other settings and how they are notably worse compared against even Blizzards own other games.
You're shitting this thread up worse than him.
>>337785558
Aren't all team based FPS very sound based?
>>337776709
yeah i agree dude street fighter is also MOBA influenced
>>337785818
Yes. But CodKiddies have gotten used to just running around the map without paying attention to anything, and now they have to shit up other games with their playstyle. This forces developers to say "Hey you fuckface, how about you slow down a minute and pay attention to shit around you?"
>>337763095
>Junkrat can jump on mines without any penalty
>Pharah gets splash damage for being too close to her rockets despite propelling yourself/enemies
This shit makes no sense.
>>337786186
That invulnerability cost him an arm and a leg though.
>>337785818
>Aren't all team based FPS very sound based?
Not really to this extent, you're not going to know a T is coming around with a flash bang in his hand in CSGO. You'll just know he's coming.
>>337786481
Go shave you fugly fag
I love OW but why doesn't Winston's ult move Bastion around when he's in turret mode? It makes no sense.
Winston is underused as it is, and Bastion is over used. It would balance out both without having to "nerf" anything
If you punch after reloading as Reaper you skip the reload animation.
I believe this also works for pharah.
>>337786935
>Winston is underused as it is, and Bastion is over used.
Actually Bastion is underused, in the closed beta he was never picked because people had gotten used to him and realized how bad of a hero he was. Winston is used a lot to counter Tracer, he's going to be a popular pick until she gets nerfed.
Once the game releases and people have some more time under their belts you'll probably never see a Bastion player unless it's a super low MMR game.
>>337786935
>>337787215
What's really funny about that is that in prOverwatch, Winston x 2 is the meta right now. Sometimes a team picks Double Winston against double Winston.
ALWAYS PLAY REINHARDT
WHY WON'T PEOPLE STAND BEHIND ME
YOU CAN SHOOT THROUGH THE SHEILD AND NOT GIT HURT
BASTION UNDERSTANDS
HEALSLUT UNDERSTANDS
MCCREE? SOLDIER?
STOP RUNNING AHEAD AND DYING IN 2 SECONDS
Some map tricks and shortcuts, some are pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvY8en9wwts
>>337787878
like playing as Reinhardt because I feel like if you're getting shot, you're doing your job. well, if you are standing on point.
>>337787878
I know this pain. Meanwhile the other team is constantly Reinhardt pushing and wrecking shit.
>>337787878
Those characters have to push, your job is to be a safe haven they can fall back to.
>>337763095
you don't even need a surface to drop the second mine. You can drop it midair and detonate instantly for a double jump.
>>337781461
He's talking about charging the ult faster
>>337765631
>50% of charge comes from your personal shield while the other 50% comes from the ally shield.
This is false, each shield can only charge you for a maximum of 50, that's it's limit. You don't need to use both to reach 100.
>>337788173
REINHARDT IS THE SAFE HAVEN DURING THE PUSH
IF YOU NEED TO FALL BACK USE A WALL
PUSH TOGETHER AS A TEAM
USE THE SHIELD
>>337789969
I AM USELESS IF I JUST STAND BEHIND A SHIELD
STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO GRAMPS
>>337791331
YOU CAN SHOOT THROUGH IT
DAMN YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPERS
RESPECT YOUR ELDERS
>>337767986
>try playing Winston cause i like his kit
>cant damage anyone and my shields gets rekt before i get to do anything after charging in
>keep dying and feel bad
>enemy Winstons rek my shit and get shit done for their team
What did i do wrong? I enjoy hog and rein and do well with both but i cant git gud with winston
>>337763095
is this gonna be the new anti shitpost for the "tf2 has le complicated rocket jumps!" thing?
>>337791637
>jump onto squishy
>put down shield
>attempt to kill
>jump back out
The leap is on a short enough cooldown that you can usually jump back towards your team around the time that your shield goes down
>>337791637
wistron rapes squishies. he only tickles everyone else.
leap behind enemy lines and destroy their support/widowmaker/tracer
also hes great being in the fray keeping dps on multiple targets, dropping shields, and generally being annoying. dont forget his leap will do 50 dmg to people, use that to finish people trying to escape/to stack extra dmg.
>>337791473
I DO WHAT I WANT
YOU STAND ON THE POINT
I'LL GO DEAL WITH THEIR RESPAWNS
>>337791971
Pharah has arguably better tech. Hell, even Soldier can rocket jump with Helix.
