>People think she is shit
How bad at the game are you?
>>337085474
It's ironic she says "nerf this," when she ults.
I'll bet it's one of the first things nerfed.
>>337085474
She isn't shit. She just needs to be tinkered with/fixed a bit.
Biggest, and honestly the only big thing about her is her ult.
That's not good.
>>337085597
Probably not. Once you see it just run away, the radius isn't that large
>>337085823
I just wish they would make the explosion look bigger so that it actually matches the splash range.
>>337085474
>Worlds biggest crit zone in the universe
>On the front of her mech
>That's also distinctly colored different
>With pea shooters
She has great mobility and all that but jesus that just makes her effectively have as much hp as edge man of many shotguns.
>>337085597
Bastion, Widowmaker and Tracer are probably going to get nerfs first.
Also stacking, they need to have a one hero each gametype and crazy mode as well for fags.
>>337086032
I think if you are using her correctly she is a very effective anti-sniper and just general low health sweeper.
Against anything high health or even turret dudes she sucks monkey balls.
>>337086182
>All these people complaining about multi-hero stacks just get met with "but it's part of the game design! Keep giving me that cock blizzard!"
>Even though there are blatantly obvious stacks that are just retarded like Soldier 76 and supposedly Tojborn and Bastion on some maps.
>>337086182
>Bastion
Blizzard and people who aren't scrubs agree that Bastion isn't OP.
Git gud.
>"tank"
>fastest dying character in the game unless you go full meme
The worst part is that nobody will take an actual tank without the warning
>p- please, blizbliz?! nerf this character so I stop going negative!
>>337086276
she is not that good at anti sniping and defense picks if you want that just pick winston. she is good at siege breaking with her ult and thats about it
>>337085474
I don't think she's bad, but she definitely not great. Her range is really bad that more characters can beat her if they're rare enough but at least she can close the gap fairly easily
Favorite character by far. Just as good without the suit
>>337085474
I don't understand it either. Her defense matrix is one of the most god tier abilities in the game and I don't think people realize you can use it for things that aren't aimed at you.
See that Mcree that just got hooked? Point your defense matrix at him and watch as he fucks that dumbass roadhog up.
See that pharah that just ulted? Watch as her missles explode in mid air.
Not to mention that she can regain full health and cause a giant explosion by using her ult.
And she has 550 hp which is the second highest in the game. Even after her mech gets destroyed she can still fuck people up with that pistol.
On top of that her rocket boost is pretty great for knocking down snipers and pushing people off the map on top of getting to god flanking routes.
>gookshit
>>337088684
her tool kit isn't bad at all.
but the 550 health means a lot less when you consider the size and location of her crit box. She also does absolutely mediocre damage even right up at close range. Roadhog has great damage, Wintson's weapon fills a niche by hit everything in its cone and going through barriers, Zarya gets great damage if she's using her shields effectively. But D.va shotguns are so bad her pistol is more effective
D VA is my tank main. She is just great at hit and running and fucking up defenses.
This got me Play of the Game
https://youtu.be/g4xxIWW1vZA
>>337085474
I hate her because no matter how good you are, how sick the moves you got, even if you play crucial role in the match and bring your team to victory, this little shit ALWAYS gets best moment for LEL CHARGE ULTI -4 I PLAY TO WIN even if that's her only contribution to the game.
Other than that, she's a pretty solid character
are we getting new game modes in the final version?
>Play Mei
>Ice wall
lel
>>337088213
she is good at anti sniping because she can just fly up to nests and gun them down. I do this regularly in games, winston is also good for this but his ult is the shittiest in the game.
>>337088684
Dva is also really good at killing roadhog, winston is shit at killing roadhog and any high health enemy.
>>337086384
Bastion is overpowered on defense because you can just plop down and point at targets to kill pretty much anyone in 3 seconds, made even worse with reinhart or fuckin toblerone bastion combos.
She is actually shit. I am decent with her and can get lost of gold medals easily with her, but that doesn't change the fact that she is shit.
>>337089232
>This got me Play of the Game
Wow dude you should be proud of getting POTG when literally pressing Q gives potgm fucking faggot
>>337086182
>bastion
>nerf
future bronzy in overwatch ranked spotted
>>337086384
>Blizzard agrees that the character Blizzard made isn't overpowered
This is one of the most retarded statements I've read on this site.
>>337085474
Just got 5 gold medals on KOTH with D.Va
She's amazing, but you really need to understand that your mech is both only good in close-range and totally expendable. Her pistol is amazing at killing and harassing enemies at medium and long range and by doing so she gets another mech almost immediately.
Use her jets and defense matrix to get point blank, then blast away, and when your mech gets destroyed run away while taking potshots. As long as you don't overextend and you have teammates nearby you'll be fine.
It's also worth pointing out that the jets allow you to push enemies, so it's quite easy to use them to get environment kills.
>mfw playing Reinhardt and I hear NERF THIS
>>337089407
>Q
Clearly says Triangle :^)
>>337086276
I find that she's really good against Roadhog since you can easily flank him and waste all his shots only to point blank shotgun him to death in a second since his headshot area is about as large as her mech's.
>>337085474
I love D.Va but she seriously need a buff. Takes too much damage while making very little damage. Range is also shit. Shield is great but it's the worse of all tanks. Booster needs a second or two or damage upon collision.
Her pilot form is a lot better than the mech, wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard makes a character around this.
D.Va is great but you can't get her full potential with a bad team. Offensive/defensive characters can play alone just fine, but D.Va needs backup to cover the areas she's lacking.
has a symmetry ever got potg?
>>337086361
>playing defense on that japanese stage with the 2 captures
>we have 2 bastions, a tor, a lucio, and a widowmaker
>go Reinhardt
>>337085597
It's ironic because it needs to be buffed. Once you get higher in the MMR ranks on matchmaking it becomes nearly impossible to kill anyone with her ult because anyone semi-competent sees it coming a mile away and just steps behind a wall or payload.
Check my PotG, lads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhbjaOept4s
>>337089232
>playing a fps on consoles
I've been enjoying Winston's ability to get behind people and go bananas on the enemy's healers.
>>337089232
Rofl, you were playing literally against retards. I'd be ashamed of posting a shitty play like that.
>D.Va
>shit
D.Va is fucking ridiculous.
>Huge health pool
>Shield lets you block all projectiles
>Flying acts a battering ram and gets her across the map fast
>Ultimate is the best crowd clearing tool in the game, has insane kill radius, she can launch it while flying and just bomb the enemy team
>Mech comes back very quickly
>Still does insane damage when out of her mech thanks to her pistol
>fast and hard to hit
Anyone who thinks D.Va is anything less than A tier is fucking stupid.
>>337089571
I honestly just use her ult for forcing people away from an area so my teammates can mop up or I can pick one or two off in the panic.
>>337089571
payload doesnt block it anymore
>>337089639
This. I underestimated the fucking monkey, he destroys by just leaping in, dropping shield, and gunning everyone before leaping out.
>>337089358
>Bastion is overpowered on defense because you can just plop down and point at targets to kill pretty much anyone in 3 seconds
Don't be in his sights for 3 seconds, noob. Send in Pharah or Junkrat to play peek-a-boo with their explosives. He won't hit them and he'll either die or be forced to move, then you can run in when he's in Scout mode.
>>337089656
>still does insane damage with her pistol
kek
>>337089414
if you are good with bastion you can pretty much kill anyone because of his magic machine gun in recon mode, amazing turret mode, insta self heal and ult.
He is too good of an all around hero and is easily one of the most overpowered heroes in this game.
Also Zarya, people think she is a lesbian and general stupid ass looking character but she is also overpowered at the moment as well.
>>337086384
Game is balanced around pubstomps not "pro league"
>want to like D. Va because of the whole mech thing
>her main weapon slows her down to an insane crawl when used
It feels completely counter-intuitive considering how mobile she is.
>>337085474
She has an enormous headbox and can barely kill anyone in a straight up fight without being brought down to ~100 hp. She seriously can't accomplish anything on her own without a support babysitting her unlike the other tanks, and if she's your tank a support would be better off healing your damage dealers anyway. Her only use is her ultimate.
![4e498a0d34ab429e4c92692fc23493c7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7pHtSMT.jpg "4e498a0d34ab429e4c92692fc23493c7[1]")
How long until we reach the Reinhardt Phalanx meta?
>>337089740
He is still extremely powerful in recon mode if played by a person that can aim. His machine gun is more powerful than solder 76.
>>337089831
Pretty sure that's Bastion + Reinhardt on a payload map against disorganized teams.
>>337089861
Yeah, but he's also still very killable. When there's a Bastion I just pick Pharah and kill them every time.
>>337089232
WOW such skill! upvoted and liked
>>337085474
>people think she needs to do DPS
I hate this, shes perfectly fine. Shes tanky, blocks shots and stops pushes, shes a tank not a DPS
>>337089831
I've already ran this shit, and it's insane.
3 stacked Rein on the payload with a Torb turret on front and a Bastion on top, and Lucio just passive healing inside. It wasn't until they brought in a Winston that they kicked us off, and by then it was too late.
>>337085474
POST EM BOIS
>>337089656
>Huge health pool
Countered by having the easiest to hit and biggest headshot box
>Ultimate is the best crowd clearing tool in the game
If you said it was an area denial ult it would be ok, but you can't kill anybody with her ult except on very specific situations or comboing with another ults
>hard to hit
Maybe if you are playing on a console
>Still does insane damage when out of her mech thanks to her pistol
With no skills to use, and a shitty hp pool, she loses to literally anyone in a 1x1 situation except for mercy.
Shes bad to ok at best.
>>337090023
Zero Suit D.va is pretty good at DPS, though. I love running around and racking up kills out of the suit. Or when some Reinhardt runs in and spends half his lifebar killing my suit, then I just pop out and finish him off and keep on rolling.
>>337089626
>Playing FPS on PC
>>337085474
>dies as aggro tank and becomes a decent assault
>flyan towards bastion and soaking up his bullets
>plant ulti down on payload for final stretch
>finishing off the pussybois running at low health
Best girl
>>337089516
Excuse the reddit link, but yes
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4htukd/quality_symmetra_gameplay_take_notes/
>>337089980
yeah because you are playing with beta shitters that just play it cause it is a free game. That is why anyone who is decent at fps games can just play bastion and win every game.
>>337089740
>Don't be in his sights for 3 seconds, noob
spoken like a true shitter
Bastion turret is around 300 dps up close and closer to 150 at range not counting how incredibly easy it is to get headshots with it because of the spread and essentially infinite ammo. He takes 2 or 3 people coordinating to properly displace him if he's in a good spot and someone like Pharah will die playing peekaboo with bastion since he can hold F for half a second to heal while she ducks away.
>>337089980
>I'm playing in the open beta mouth-breathing MMR bracket
good advice
Best girl and best skin
>>337090163
How do you counter winston with the zero suit d.va?
>>337090265
give him some peanut butter and bananas
She isn't bad but she's definitely on the weak side. She doesn't really do anything that other heroes can't do better.
Winston is better at getting on their back line squishies, popping them, and then getting out alive. Reinhardt is a better tank. Roadhog is a better tank/assassin. She just doesn't really excel at anything, the only good thing she has is her ult which can be chained with something like a Zarya ult or Mei ult for maximum keks but that's pretty much it.
What character is hard mode? This game seemed pretty easy. I would say the hardest character to use is Soldier: 76.
>>337089738
Same. He might not go great toe to toe with other tanks but he melts any unarmored heroes.
>>337089656
>>337090138
When I found out about her head hitbox she became much easier to counter
>>337089487
On what planet does D.Va have a chance against Roadhog? It takes 2 shots with the shotgun, and he's probably the easiest hero to hook. You'd have to be the shittiest of shitter to die to a D.Va, unless you are almost dead at the start of the engagement or she knocks you off an edge by charging (at which point you hook her so she dies with you)
>>337085474
She needs a buff. Anybody who says they do well with her is just doing well in spite of her.
In every role of tank, disrupter, picking off snipers etc there is a better pick.
Majority of the time you're a shitty tracer.
If a character isn't straight OP most people that suck think they're shit, because it reminds them how much they themselves are shit.
Unskilled people flock to whatever class is overpowered on any particular patch/build of a game. Then when it changes they cry and switch to the next one.
>>337089232
lmao what the fuck is this? Is this what console players are actually proud of? The people on the enemy team are so retarded some of them not only stand next to where your mech lands, they fucking run AT it to get killed by the blast.
Also it's so obvious you're playing with a gamepad even without the console button prompts. Jesus christ it's like watching someone play in molasses. Now I have to wonder, is the game balanced around PC players who can actually aim, or is it balanced around console players who take ages to turn around and run at the giant glowing exclamation mark that kills them?
>>337085474
best girl!
>Playing Reinhardt on Ilios
>D. Va is running away in the opposite direction of the point toward her spawn
>Give chase because they have no offense anyway so I'm thirsty for a kill
>Turn the corner and start hitting her
>"Nerf this"
>Ok nevermind
>Turn back and around the corner again
>By the time it explodes I am on the opposite side of the building
>Die
I'm guessing that I can block the explosion with the shield, because I did turn around and shield in case someone gave chase and released it right before the blast.
>>337090402
Tanks are easy mode for D.VA since they all rely on close range and the closer they get to D.VA the more bullets they get hit by also not needing to reload helps.
>>337090265
That's a hard one, I'm pretty shit at dealing with Winston in general, but I can squeeze out wins against him here and there.
>dvas ult radius
Is this a fucking joke? It's fucking impossible to defend against a decent team using dva jihading you unless you have a shieldman to charge it away
>Play of the game
>It's Bastion sitting in a corner
Every time
>>337090265
You don't.
>>337090494
You realize objects block it right? You can hide behind a lampost or anything.
>>337090136
Disgusting koreans.
>>337090402
You have a small enough window to hit E to eat the followup shots from Roadhog, and start unloading on him. Even if Mech dies, you can gun him down with Zero Suit DVa right after.
Personally, I just run if RH hooks me, because fuck dealing with him.
>>337090227
I disagree
>>337090494
Next time try getting behind a wall. You can be literally 3ft away from the mech but you won't die if you are behind a wall. Even cars work.
>>337090176
>a decent assault
Holy fuck how can people actually think this? She has no abilities and the lowest health in the game on foot. Your weapon in mech also does such low damage people can literally ignore it past 10 feet.
>>337090227
Of the basic skins Carbon is best.
>>337090417
Why do you think you can't change the FOV in the first place? Consoles dumbed the game down
>>337090625
why is she cross eyed
Bastion in general needds to be reworked.
He's a complete pub stomp, and he'd suck in actual high end games. Neither of these things are good.
>>337090136
Jesus christ why
These characters are all so situational and inflexible, you shouldn't be "maining" anyone
>>337090625
I think the earmuffs ruin what's otherwise an excellent costume for her. They're just so ugly.
>>337090173
nah dude you can't greentext back
enjoy your objectively worse aiming
>>337090696
You can change the fov, what are you talking about.
>>337090494
Break line of sight. You can hide behind a lamp pole and be safe.
>>337090716
Also the goggles should be on her head, not her eyes. It's cuter that way.
>>337090625
It makes her look like a lesbian autist and takes her cuteness away
>>337090668
Too edgy for me, I like white rabbit
>>337089626
I was considering overwatch on xbone vs pc because pc already has aimhacks.
>>337090402
You can charge before he can shoot after a hook and he'll miss, you can also immediately E before he can shoot
>>337090645
Someone doesn't know how to lead their targets.
>>337090494
It's big because it's literally the only thing she has to offer a team. It does less damage the farther you're away.
>>337090713
yeah exactly because characters are so easily countered it isn't even a big deal when you have a problem with some faggot on the enemy team.
The problem is the faggots who main and don't switch even though they die constantly.
>>337090731
You just fell for the weakest possible b8
Goddamn you insecure PC fucks are so easy to reel in.
>>337090402
You have to abuse his reload. If he's got a full shotgun and lands all 4 shots on you and you didn't have defense matrix to absorb any of them you're dead. Otherwise you'll have enough time while he's reloading to kill him.
>>337090702
He's not really a pub stomp in higher mmr pubs. We've had the game for what, a week? Most people aren't that good at it yet unless they had access to the closed beta so yeah he still feels strong if you don't know how to deal with him but that will come with time.
>>337090713
idk, i just don't like playing as anybody else
MCcree is pretty fun but that's about it
>>337089516
i've seen bugged potgs for symmetra where she gets a kill or two with her primary and then her turrets do enough damage to be considered "plays"
>>337090821
Are you seriously trying to argue that a 150 health character with 0 abilities is a "decent assault" when she can't compete at all with any other character? Any character could 1v1 her and win, even a Mercy. If what you meant to say by "decent assault" was "least viable character in the game," then I would agree with you. I just laugh whenever I see a dva with no mech trying to frontline, it's like they think they're gonna do anything besides die.
So what's the thing she is good at? Flanking? I think Winston is better in that.
>>337090635
i've been trying to outrange it every time and getting assfucked as symmetra
thanks
>>337090847
>I was just pretending to be retarded
>you fell for my bait
>I trolled you
okay console kid
>>337090921
if you see play of the game it tells you what it does like "shutdown" and shit.
Killing people during ult gives the most play points and if you get a multi kill with a guy in ultimate you pretty much get play of game.
Like if you kill a mcree in deadeye and get another kill you get play of game instead of someone killing four people with headshots and shit.
>>337090846
considering I main D.VA and have an average death of 3.7 how about no? Better be be great at D.VA in all situations than mediocre on a few in some situations.
>>337091028
Potg is almost always someone pressing Q, or if everyone played like ass, it's someone killing two people. It's never impressive after you've played the game for a couple hours.
>>337087603
But I'll always play Roadhog :(
>>337090957
>Any character could 1v1 her and win, even a Mercy
My fucking sides, you must be complete trash.
You can outright kill any squishy character with good enough leading, or if you're a shitter just build ulti from harassing tanks until you get your ultimate.
I've gone many games where I've spanked the entire enemy team without dying once.
>>337091080
>how about no?
Great argument fuck face. Not dying doesn't mean you're playing well, for all anyone knows you're just sitting in the back holding M1 down and then running off to get healthpacks when anyone shoots you. Oh and once in a while you press Q, good on you, I'm certain you're "great" at dva.
>how about no?
>how about no?
>how about no?
>how about no?
>>337091080
Well you are just going to get fucked in the ass in ranked or when the actual game comes out because people who play the game are the ones that actually bought at and in for the long haul and are going to play heroes that counter you if you are a nuisance.
Which will happen if you just get good with one character and you will be screwed because you are shit with everyone else.
>>337090973
Nothing. She's not horrible but she's outclassed by other heroes.
>>337091080
Just learn another hero retard. It's easy to not die as D.Va but it doesn't mean you're helping much. As a harraser and backline assassin tracer btfo D.Va.
>>337091189
>My fucking sides, you must be complete trash.
I don't understand how killing dvas out of their mech makes me trash, but you're the stupid asshole trying to argue that - again - a 150 hp character with no abilities is anything but cannon fodder, so I can't be expected to understand your retarded reasoning.
>>337091216
Stop being a salty cunt because I do contribute >>337090327
>>337090625
Titanfall?
>>337090417
>The people on the enemy team are so retarded
are you really implying it isnt the same for us on pc?
>>337091080
>I think maining a single character in blizz's new r/p/s fps is a good idea
>I'm gonna be great in all situations even when people counter me
>how about no?
Couldn't have said it better myself
>Be road hog
>She pops her ult
>Take a sip from my drink
I can practically feel the rage seething through their monitor.
>>337091319
On the other hand I can understand you. Before I git gud and understood dva gameplay I thought like you.
>>337091327
>>337091080
DVa just isn't useful in some situations and team comps. Full stop.
It's not like these characters are complex, like you have some special knowledge or insight into DVa at 10 hours that someone else won't have at 2. These characters are very shallow and inflexible, they have very small toolsets and rigid game plans.
>>337091327
>average eliminations <13
>average objective kills <5
>average damage ~4k
>average time on fire <25 seconds
>average solo kills <2
How do you contribute, exactly? Please explain it to me, I'm honestly curious, cuz looking at your stats it looks like you got hot once or twice in a few matches and in every other match you're totally average or even below average.
>>337089656
Her shield isn't great because it's just delaying the inevitable since she can't do anything else while it's active.
Yeah, it protects teammates and can eat some ults, but her job isn't supposed to be babysitting her team. She's a tanky harasser, and the shield doesn't do anything for her in that role.
>>337091451
>le understood d.va gameplay
Not much to understand anon.
>You can outright kill any squishy character with good enough leading
Kek a okay tracer will shit all over zero suit d.va.
>>337091393
>shooting roadhog
>he heals
>ult charges up like a damn battery
thanks
>>337090973
>So what's the thing she is good at?
She's good at breaking up offensive pushes. Her mech lets her prevent team damage while pushing enemies apart and doing good close range damage, then when her mech is destroyed she can harass for a short while until her mech returns.
It is completely expendable.
>>337091189
>You can outright kill any squishy character with good enough leading
You just killed them because you were better than them. You will lose every single time against a player of equal skill just because leading is objectively worse than instant hitting.
Or are you gonna tell me that its easier to hit with dva zero suit pistol than the rifle of soldier 76 that hits faster and has less travel time or maybe a tracer which has blinks and rewind?
>>337091283
>>337091302
>>337091376
>>337091454
>All these salty fucking autist mad over what someone plays in a beta
Get cucked you know what I am going to play Overwatch right now and I am going to play only D.VA right this second try sleeping on that
>>337091451
>Still completely avoiding the issue
If you're not gonna tell me how the least viable character in the game is a "decent assault" just stop posting. All you've tried to argue is that if you're really, really good with the worst character in the game for killing other people, you might be able to out dps and kill other players in 1v1s without your mech. Which is kind of silly and pretty much just fucking retarded to assume or hope for. You're probably just another dva like all the other ones I see that try to go toe to toe with someone like s76 or McCree and then just fall over dead because you literally have nothing to bring to a fight other than a pistol.
>>337091540
>Bastion giving everyone trouble
>team up with someone
>shield them while they pump Bastion with bullets
>help them finish him off
>rinse and repeat to make Bastion never be a problem again
What's even more fun is teaming up with another D.va and trading shield duty back and forth. Do it right and you can bring down anyone while taking little to no damage.
>>337085794
>ult not good
>got a fucking pentakill a couple hours ago
>went 32-6 another match
>4golds most of the time
D.Va is great
the drawfs turret needs nerf
>>337091687
go right ahead but you gonna get fucked if you main. The whole basis of this game is counterpicking to counter enemy teams, normally you won't be able to lock in a hero and end the game with said hero without switching.
>>337091687
lmao, how defensive and victim-complexy can you get? No one is mad that you play dva. People are just stating facts; you're pigeon-holing yourself into one character who isn't all that great, and you're overly defensive about it and pissing and moaning because people think she's kind of weak, which she is.
>Get cucked
We're not the ones who spent 95% of our playtime with a character that just isn't that great lmao what a fucking moron
>>337091687
alright. good night anon! have fun
>>337091780
>pentakill with D.Va ult
>anecdotes from open beta
wew
>>337091749
>Pick Reinhardt.
>Do a better job of shielding and a better job of hitting Bastion at range.
???
>>337091780
Reading comprehension is hard, right? Anon was saying that it's not good that the only thing about her that's worth mentioning is her ult. Not that her ult wasn't good.
>>got a fucking pentakill a couple hours ago
woah dude you pressed Q and the enemy stood there, that's super cool and impressive
>>337091749
being you have to gangbang a bastion is a problem. All you have to do to counter D.va is backstep and shoot, Bastion with his recon machine gun is actually really good at killing d.va.
>Two D.va switching shields to take out one bastion
This must be some faggot shitter fantasy right here
>>337091613
Yes, if I faced anyone worth their salt they would give me a run for my money, but even then its a tough fight.
Let me explain dva to everyone.
She is a siegebreaker in her mech form with her ultimate, has high maneuvrability and reliable consistent damage.
When she's killed, she changes into a squishy DPS that can kill squishy targets and chip away at tanky units until she gets her mech back.
And that's why she's a decent assault in zero suit mode.
Reminder that Benedict is a better, more fun character than anything in Overwatch
>how to fix d.va
remove her slowdown when firing.
done.
>>337091969
>reliable consistent damage
Are you playing paralyzed people?
Japan is digging it.
>>337085474
The longest killstreak I've managed to get with her was 11. You need a healer to pocket you to be remotely viable.
They either need to shrink the critbox and increase gatling damage or add Armored Core For Answer style quickboosting.
>>337091969
Let me explain D.Va to you.
She's a useless shit that I have to hook twice to actually kill, but she helps me get the gold damage done medal.
>Play Reinhardt, get the perfect balance of shielding and running faggots over to hammer their friends, great damage, eliminations and damage blocked
>Play Roadhog, hook picks for days, always in a good spot where I can stick my head out but they can't really pressure me, usually near a medkit spawn to complement the E
>Play Zarya sometimes, save some fag's life with shield, use mine aggressivly as fuck, run around above 80% power fucking cutting people in half
>Try to Play D.Va or Winston, patiently pick my engage when my team is around and I've got a good important target, kill maybe one person then die and my team doesn't take advantage of the brief shitshow I've caused
It doesn't help that D.va is the fucking squishest tank even with the highest effective health. She needs to be super close to get good damage in but she's got a big hitbox and she's far and away the easiest character to headshot so long as she's facing you.
Not great, but OK.
Usually 1-2 in eliminations, damage, objective kills. Will probably get shit on when it finally releases.
>>337091815
>playing as lucio, and the team's only healing
>enemy team has a bastion and a torbjorn
>no one on my team will switch to genji
sometimes I switch anyway just to finally kill them at least once
>>337092023
Also shrink her head box.
>>337091529
>w-where is your kills and damage
>on a hero designed not to to score massive damage or lots of kills
Wrong category friend D.VA is listed as a tank, If I wanted to do damage I would just pick someone from attack
>>337091540
The way to use the shield is to make people waste ammo so they're forced to reload when you actually fight them.
>>337092002
Who?
>>337085597
>tracer
>nerf
If anything, she's a candidate to get buffed. More ammo count most likely.
>>337090853
Bastions that actually move around and use recon mode become significantly more difficult to deal with then the braindead shitters that just camp one spot.
If he gets actual support from teammates he becomes incredibly difficult to deal with in pub games. Still doesn't do much better then "Surprise Bastion" tactics in competitive, but he has the potential to become a bit ridiculous when you can't coordinate your team.
>>337091749
>I need two people to deal with one character
>brushes hands off
>EYUP THAT'LL DO IT EHYUCK
>GIT ER DONE!!!
great advice
Hello, can I have 1 minute of your time to talk about CANCER?
>>337092002
Who's Benedict and why'd you post a picture of Pharah?
>>337091969
Well if you can't see that leading is objectively harder to hit than a instant hit weapon and because of that you are at a huge disadvantage against people of equal aiming skills then I can't do anything for you.
>>337092043
That's definitely true. I got 17 today because I had two friends pocketing me as lucio and mercy.
>>337092128
So, again, how do you contribute? You posted your stats and then linked to your stats to prove that you contribute, and now that I'm pointing out that your stats mean dick all because they don't actually prove you contributing at all except being completely mediocre and average, you're backpedaling about it and being defensive.
How do you contribute?
>>337091815
I haven't encountered any issues so far playing D.VA so why would I care to switch? I've played healer but tank in my games is always the least picked so I pick D.VA. Had zero issues in match ups against other tanks or against anyone.
>>337091837
>We're not the ones who spent 95% of our playtime with a character that just isn't that great lmao what a fucking moron
well you sound upset that I am having fun
>>337091897
>Dark Souls boss
>Good at hitting anybody at range
>>337092391
Sounds like someone needs to git gud with flamestrike.
>>337092171
>Teamwork in a team-based FPS? UNHEARD OF!
>>337092354
People are upset that you're resorting to childish antics and belligerence, not that you're having fun. People state facts and concerns about the character, you turn into a giant baby about it and shout "YEAH WE'LL I'M HAVING FUN!!!!!" as if that means anything or addresses anything anyone actually said to you instead of your fantasy interpretation of what was said to you.
>>337091593
Roadhog is just so horrible to have on your team.
He practically guarantees the enemy team will be at 100% ult all the time.
>>337090136
It's been fun.
>>337092354
yeah you are playing free open beta weekend. People that play any free game that is out are playing this, anyone that played fps games before probably think they are jesus' chosen at this game probably right now.
>>337092425
Good luck hitting that slow ass projectile against someone who isn't retarded.
So how'd I do ?
>>337092002
>furshit
>>337092489
The failure in your reasoning is that if the bastion has a buddy with him, especially a healer or god forbid another bastion, you would then need 3 or 4 people to get rid of him. But way to completely and purposefully misinterpret my point so you could be a sarcastic cunt. Just because the game is teambased doesn't mean it's okay for a single character to require two or more people to deal with in an average situation.
>>337092601
Bastions don't move much.
>>337092261
Sure. Go ahead.
>>337085474
Because she is awful. She's the only character that actually sucks. She as no niche. Terrible harasser, Terrible tank. Any slot wasted on a D.Va would be better used on just about any character. Any team with a D.Va would have their efficacy increased by like 20% if the D.Va player just switched to Soldier 76?
>>337092646
>Hear ult Noise
>Transform back in .5 seconds
>Hide behind a corner
slow ults dont stop bastion.
>>337092646
A bastion can reposition, even slightly, and transform in about a second. Now you gotta readjust your aim when you pop back out which gives him the advantage. He can also be healing when you duck away.
>>337092601
>not leading your target with Flamestrike
Gotten plenty of kills using Flamestrike, especially on Pharahs.
As stated previously, git gud.
>>337092696
Thank youMei is pure cancer. She is so cancer that when she is near I can feel a tumor growing on my back. Fuck her and anyone who plays that bitch
Thank you for your time
>that feel when I won't get to play as my waifu for 2 weeks
why the fuck can't I just put myself in a 14-day coma
>>337092606
My averages are much higher than yours and I've only played for 5 hours. And I know I'm not very good.
So your stats are really not very good.
>>337092057
I've stopped playing Winston because it just makes me mad at my team.
>Playing Ilios ruins map
>Enemy team has the point and is about to win
>Team has been putzing about and trickling in all game
>They finally group up like they usually tend to only do at the last second
>Nowismytimetoshine.jpg
>Playing Winston and have my ult up
>Just as my team hits the point I jump into the enemy team and ult
>Get their undivided attention as I smack both the tank and support back down their side of the map
>Their ENTIRE team has run back to deal with me
>With good movements, shields, and liberal use of leaps I distract their whole team for a good 15 second
>Finally die keeping their attention for as long as possible
>DEFEAT
>My team somehow managed to get further away from the point then when they'd started
>They were all AD strafing around on our side of the map taking pot shots at their team while I was distracting them
>Nobody even touched the point the entire time
>This was the latest incident
>Stop playing Winston
>>337092002
Who?
This game feels like it's designed in a way that forces me to play in a certain way, and always lose in certain situations, rather than just putting in mechanics (weapons, movement abilities, all that), and them having strengths/weaknesses that will make them favorable in certain situations. It's sort of like in World of Warcraft where the winner of a duel was %100 decided by which two classes the duelers were playing. It doesn't feel like there's much room to pull off great out plays, you can't really do unconventional or unintended moves, you do what you're supposed to do and you're rewarded for it, you step out of line and you're punished. I'm not sure if I'm wording what I'm trying to say correctly, but it just feels very forced how you're supposed to play, and you can't really step out of line of how you're supposed to.
>>337090625
Looks like Tracer's little sister. Also the goggles look awful on her.
>>337092815
Are you literally retarded?
Does Road Hog's hook get a magical +thirty fucking yards when you hit someone with it?
I'll throw it out and it seems like it goes 15 feet when I miss but when it's on target it's like it goes fucking double the length, it's insane
>>337090136
I was having trouble with the ult once people started learning to GTFO, but then I learned about using it as a airburst bomb.
>>337092815
>5 hours
Only way to compare yourself to him is to play the exact amount of hours and then compare stats.
Cause that is like saying someone play one game and get 30 kill no death and has 30/kd therefore best player in the game.
>>337092002
That's not Drogoz.
>>337089232
>jumps out of mech
>enemy team literally run up to the mech and try to melee it
what the fuck is this video
>>337092852
It's a team game retardo it's not centered around your epic 1v1 fights.
>>337092425
Even fucking roadhog can dodge that slow ass piece of shit
>>337092349
Well to know that one must first know how to play D.VA to start with. D.VA is the supressive fire of the heroes, people when getting hit will dive for cover even if it's D.VA hitting them for minimal damage. You stand behind your team mates because your shield extends forwards a good distance meaning you can stand in the back constantly firing and chances are you will be focused for being such a big target. If you have a good team that either have good synergy or you communicate with you use your shield to say block a bastion or widow maker giving them time to take them out. You can use D.VA to chase down snipers or simply using her jets to brute force your way through as it knocks people back, also nothing like syncing that ult up with someone elses. In all D.VA isn't the play maker but the one that gives someone on your team the opportunity to make a play and when that doesn't work I just brute force my way through either by barging through the enemy or flying round and getting them from the back Though it doesn't matter you don't like me playing D.VA, you think I am bad, you probably don't like me so why even bother arguing. I am having fun tbqh
>>337092971
I'm not sure what this is....but I'm 90% sure I want to have sex with it.post a pic of his feet?
Why does d.va have a headshot hitbox again?
What good is that cockpit anyway
>>337092953
Well, sure. That's true enough. But I also started off being fucking awful and I've gotten consistently better with every game. So statwise, if I'm where I'm at, and he's where he's at, you can draw a conclusion from that.
>>337090713
But that's not even true. A shit ton of the characters are flexible and versatile as fuck. That's one of the first things I noticed about the game.
>>337093045
>people when getting hit will dive for cover even if it's D.VA hitting them for minimal damage
So basically you're playing against open beta shitters?
>>337092002
No one's playing your shitty game. Fuck off.
Does the game store your highlights anywhere on the computer?
D.Va is fun.
>Cute
>Fun
>Love her voice
My only problems are the speed slow when shooting is horrible, too many people can just walk away, her crit box also needs to be reduced or removed, the mech dies so fast it's insane. Lastly personal explosion radius on that ult, I'm part of the blame, but it's too easy to die to your own explosion.
>>337089414
Reinhardt+Bastion with Mercy on Payload is pretty broken
>>337093104
Her cockpit is pretty good
>>337092985
tfw Roadhog has the same movement speed as Mercy
>>337092002
He's a slack jawed yokel and he isn't very fun at all.
>>337090576
Mei is of Asian descent.
>>337092261
>>337093224
Her critbox and speed are the only reason she isn't a garbage no-skill hero like Hanzo or Bastion. Be happy.
>>337092503
>People state facts and concerns about the character
And I agree with most things said about D.VA needing buffs? I just like playing D.VA most of the time, peoples argument against me playing D.VA so far are assumptions about how I play.
>>337092564
Yeah probably
>>337093224
>her voice
>HIIII
>>337092261
>Play Mei and violently shit on the enemy team all match
>Play Reaper, shoot shoot, wraith right before I freeze, shoot shoot, or just fucking walk away if she ice blocks for the health
>Play Tracer, blink out of freeze range and hose her down
>Play Genji, dash out of freeze range and pincushion her
>Play Mcree, roll forward for the point blank stun and fan or roll back out of range and gun her down
>Play 76, about face and sprint out of range, spray her down, or just drop my health and stand in it to tank Mei's whole combo and kill her when I unfreeze
The only thing a Mei can do to someone that knows how she work is stall. WOH THATS DEFENSIVE
I enjoy playing Mei because every time I kill someone I can think of easy ways they could have avoided it and didn't. Makes me feel good. Also you can make ice puns at people.I always call my PotGs "cool"
>>337086182
>Also stacking, they need to have a one hero each gametype
That's one of the brawl of the week things.
>People that think tracer needs to be nerfed
Literally CoD babbies, she's one of the most perfectly balanced characters for her unique role. Her HP is fucking garbage and heaven help you if your only bail option is on cooldown. Blinks help but they won't heal you. She can only pick people off and harass, she can't contribute in straight up fights or she gets shredded. Zenyatta has 150 hp/shield as well but he just throws his blue balls and ducks back into cover and tosses heal/discord orbs, he isn't meant to actually try and take people out in combat, though you can if you're gud.
I also don't think tracer needs any buff either, people say "buff the range on her ult" either throw distance or actual damage distance, but it's fine as is imo
>B..but I can't hit her!
Blinks have cooldowns, she's harassing and doing her job, she CAN'T let you hit her or she's fucked. She isn't fat ass Mei with her chunky HP.
>>337085474
She;s abysmal compared to other tanks, critbox is fucking massive, low damage guns (with fuck huge bloom), reduces movespeed unlike other tanks for some reason. Her best abilities are her wall and ultra. They should make her gain some ultra percentage when she successfully absorbs damage
>>337085597
walk behind a fucking light pole and survive it
>>337092978
>it's a team game, therefore all uniqueness in playstyle, and any ability to outplay people other than through having the right heroes/positions
>assuming I just want "epic 1v1 fights"
Retard.
>>337091020
Holy shit you're the spitting image of pottery. Stay retarded, faggot
>>337090625
Short hair is TRASH.
>>337093106
The conclusion is play 22 more hours before talking shit
>D. VA's low-health panting.
>>337093162
>Excuses the post
Fun fact beta weekends have a higher skill bar compared to when games are released, Activison and Valve have noted this in their previous Beta studies.
>>337093425
I prefer the EEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNGGGGGG
>>337093045
So you don't actually contribute anything except your ult, like most dvas. You do totally mediocre in all statistics including objective time, but you still pat yourself on the back and tell yourself that every win was because of your hardwork and every loss was because of the failures of the team. All while most of the people you're playing are young teens, brazilians, and people on toasters.
>I am having fun tbqh
Great argument, I'm sure your team really appreciates that every time you pick your mediocre waifu and perform completely average with her.
>>337093337
r u evn tryng?
>>337093425
>Most of her pain sounds in general
>can't kill anyone using Roadhogs hook n shoot gimmick
I guess I'm just a shitter.
>>337093507
Well considering the amount of legendaries and epics I get my teams have appreciated me, sorry that you are so autistic upset that I play D.VA. I hope that you get some help soon winky face
>>337093591
It's easy just scrape and lick.
Hook then shoot then melee.
>>337093425
>D. VA's panting when she takes damage
>>337085474
She's good at using her block, but Zarya is 100x better since she has two
>>337093536
Much more than you since you can't counter any of my points, meme lord.
>>337093413
More irony from the console kid, are you still pretending to be retarded?
http://imgur.com/a/I5CUj
Enjoy lads
R8 my D.VA stats. I just started playing Overwatch on PS4 and she is my first character.
>>337093961
This is why I picked her. :^)
>>337093936
>mfw load up the game and Zarya is on my screen
>>337093628
>More of this "lol u mad that i play a mediocre character?"
No one is mad that you play a bad character, you just play completely sub-par and then try your hardest to insist you're a great boon to your team, and then when your stats show anything but, you backpedal and whine about how dva isn't about getting kills and junk. Really, you're all over the place with your reasoning, you've never once been consistent, that's what is upsetting.
>>337093967
>PS4
>>337094093
I fucking hate her design as well anon but she's pretty strong its hard to not play her.
Assist shield is so strong, throw it on reapers, genjis, really anyone that needs to get in close to ultra and they will absolutely get it off.
>>337094098
No you are clearly upset, you can't let this argument go. You are obsessed with the idea that I am bad yet you have never even seen me play instead you picked a bunch of stats that are poorly applied to a tank as your way of proving me wrong. Your argument is just a milder version of asking why someone who plays support doesn't have a high KDA because it's not their job. I have a positive win percentage so I don't care what you think. Learn to let it go man.
>>337093162
>Run across the Hanamura courtyard to the first point
>Get hit, spin to the right to maybe hook or atleast see what I'm dealing with
>It's a Dva just outside hook range
>Oh.
>Turn back towards the point and finish walking my fat ass there
>Start capping at 590/600 health
>>337093045
>when that doesn't work I just brute force my way through either by barging through the enemy or flying round and getting them from the back
>Dva boosts into me, melee's me and starts firing point blank into my head
>Murder her
>Dva sneaks around, boosts into me, melee's me and starts firing point blank into my head
>Turn around
>And murder her
Are you a console baby? Maybe these chucklefucks can't turn around fast enough to kill you or can't aim well enough to hit your massive dead center critbox.
>>337093628
>Well considering the amount of legendaries and epics I get my teams have appreciated me
>Well considering the amount of legendaries and epics I get
Nigga nobody gets a shitton of epics unless they play with friends because randos can hardly be assed to vote at all. I've seen maybe 2 legendaries in over a hundred matches because ten votes TOTAL is rare as fuck.
>>337093636
Maybe it's the ps4 version but there's too much delay between the hook and them getting close enough to instagib
>>337094308
>you picked a bunch of stats that are poorly applied to a tank as your way of proving me wrong
You linked me to your own stats to prove that you contribute. After I pointed out that all of those stats are average and mediocre, you backpedaled. So if those stats don't prove anything why did you shove them in my face as if it meant anything? You're the one who's autistic, you prove yourself wrong and then you start pointing the finger like a fuckin idiot.
>>337085597
I would prefer a more detailed graphic of the blast radius since it's deceptively huge.
I like using it to scare people off of objectives. It either kills or heavily disrupts a push. Probably my favorite hero to use on defense if there's at least one healer.
>>337094378
The only difference between versions is how strong turrets are
Does the loot we earn for this beta carry over for our accounts on the retail release, or do we start from scratch?
>>337094308
>Damage isn't a stat tanks care about f-fag!
No. Damage isn't a stat Dva and Winston care about because they're shit and their damage is shit.
Reinhardt, Roadhog or Zarya played well will have fuck high damages while still doing tanky shit.
>>337094339
You never even said who you was killing me as D.VA with you just said you would do it? and where did I say I was meleeing anyone?
I see lot's of Epics and legendaries one of every game for epics and one every 3 or 4 for legendaries and no I am playing on pc.
>>337093957
I'm not even the same guy.
You're the dumbest poster I've seen this month to a) fall for very weak bait and b) think he's tough shit trying to appear not retarded
The last game I played today was a payload map where near the end there were 2 D.va's, 2 bastions, a junkrat, and a genji
The D.va's would constantly just cover each other until one of them got their mechs back, and the bastions would either go on top of the payload or somewhere behind it, and you know the junkrat would just be taking potshots annoying the living shit out of everyone.
Probably one of the most frustrating and un-fun matches I've ever played if it wasn't for one of the bastion players actually having down syndrome we would have lost.
>>337094731
Everything is being wiped senpai. Sorry
>tfw hooking Hanno about to ult
>>337094458
>After I pointed out that all of those stats are average and mediocre
Based on what evidence? your opinion doesn't count as evidence. You are the one autistic believing your own opinion as a fact. Just let the argument go man Jesus.
>Play of the game is rocket lady getting a double kill with a rocket and missing the next 2 shots
The problem with Bastion is that he have a low risk / high reward. Sure you can get to him with mobile heroes like Genji or Tracer to take him out. Hell, have a sniper and just taking shots at him works too. Bastion by himself is not a threat, annoying but nothing that cant be handled with.
But when you get to the point of the game where the enemy team just have an iron clad defense, or reaches to the point where the defending team's location favors them more, he gets real impossible to deal with. At that point you are lucky to even get a hit on him while flanking. Half the other problem being without coordination taking him out is pointless because everyone is still off doing their own shit rather than jumping onto the point.
tl;dr: Bastion alone is not a problem but the amount of effort needed to deal with him is the problem.
>>337094792
>>337093413
>falling for the reverse bait
>implying you both aren't pretending to fall for it
Can't fool me.
>>337089414
bastion gets hard countered by so many things but his ult is fucking stupid
>play roadhog
>hook pharah during her JUSTICE RAIN
>dead pharah
>hook mcree during HIGH NOON
>dead mcree
>hook ow the edge during his school shooting spree
>dead edgemeister
>hook bastion when he gets his ult
>eat tank and die horribly
I honestly don't think there is a counter to that ult other than just running away
>>337095108
Jesus Christ, anon, if you want a (you) so badly then here.
>>337095065
Bastion and Dwarf are both abysmal at higher level play, I mean straight up trash.
Dwarf needs to be able to move upgraded turret and remove his scrap system, just give him cd back on armor ability.
Bastion is not even an issue because people like junkrat exist he literally cannot stay still if a junkrat has some brains.
>>337094757
>and where did I say I was meleeing anyone?
>Claim you're a great Dva player
>Doesn't melee before shooting after boosting into someone
Canceling the boost after you bump someone with a melee is the best way tostack damage on the person you're engaging before you start shooting him.
>You never even said who you was killing me as D.VA with you just said you would do it?
Practically any character will murder DVa. I have killed a DVa that engaged on me with pretty much every offense, every defense(It's tough as Hanzo though, you basically got to get every ricochet into her feet and a few headshots real quick), Reinhardt, Roadhog, Zarya(Bit of a slog though if you're low energy, Dva can fire into your shield for the whole uptime and you might not get the full 50) and Lucio (Dva's damage can't keep up with his self healing after he's backed up a bit)
>>337089358
>bastion
>op
Nigga the trick is to not play the same hero the whole time. If a Bastion is giving you trouble:
>Pick D.Va and fly behind him (you can deflect while shift. If you are on his ass you can kill him before his friends force you out. Space: Created)
>bait him into killing his friends as Genji (only works on shitters)
>Pick Phara and plant one or two in his face, guranteed hits, he will fuck off guranteed.
>flank him with a reaper Port
>Blink behind him as tracer
>light him up as Junkrat
Fucking easy. He's literally one of the easiest heroes to deal with. You get WAY more trouble from people who know how to play a decent D.Va + Mercy combo.
Fuck I'm more scared of Mei with most heroes then I am of Bastion.
>>337095404
>imgur filename
>>337089358
Winston's ult is fine. You use it for disruption on points because all the maps are point and payload based. It also heals you to full gives you 500 extra hp and lets you jump around every 2 seconds. It could probably do more damage but it isn't the worst in the game.
>>337095623
So many people don't understand the concept of disruption
>Muh D.Va ultimate didn't kill anyone!!
Did it force all of them to fuck off in different directions and become easy pick offs?
Y-yeah but I didn't kill anyone though!
>>337095548
>He doesn't know that bastion can turn 360 degrees now
>>337090816
[citation needed]
>>337095753
Nigga you can still kill his ass if you just fly in his face.
>>337095548
>sneak up on bastion as D.Va
>open up on his crit spot from <1'
>bastion spins around and melts me
noice
>>337089656
>hard to hit
>>337095623
It's not very good compared to other disruption ults, and his damage is very low. I really only see him picked to hunt down snipers since he can't immediately get killed by them and can get to them pretty easily.
Other disruptions ultras like Hogs do the same thing while still killing (much easier to pull off as well) Zaryas locks people in a single spot for free kills basically. Rein disables people completely, and even crap diva makes people run for the hills.
Also his bubble is pretty pissweak for the cool down it has
>>337095619
>hello_reddit9.jpg
>9
nice collection
Test
>>337095545
>>Doesn't melee before shooting after boosting into someone
Boosting into someone is used for a sure kill otherwise you risk just throwing away a mech and your life so melee usually isn't needed though I suppose I do use it when it's one of the slippery fuckers.
Read your second paragraph and would rather not argue, you believe that practically everyone is better than D.VA from your experience while my experience has been different so let's leave it at that.
>>337095814
>Shoving Dva's massive head hitbox right infront of Bastions gun
She fucking evaporates.
>>337089656
>hard to hit
>sneeze in her direction and make her botless due to her massive fucking head.
>>337085474
>tfw all my skins will be gone tomorrow
why blizzard why
why cant you just let us keep the skins but wipe everything else
"NERF THIS"
Who junkrat here? He demolishes anything that isn't a pharah, I mean he disrupts reinhardt based defenses so good and there's nothing he can do about it.
Anyone kind of hate getting POTG? I've had it show me doing stupid shit like killing a couple dudes and falling off a ledge in the base in King's Row. Or running away from my ult as Diva in the same map, being a couple buildings away and still dying to that shit.
>>337096078
He's very strong, his reload and fire rate make it so easy to just constantly pepper areas forever.
>>337096078
my nigga
the best counter to junkrat is another junkrat
>tfw blowing up riptires with my mines, juggling roadhogs with a mine and grenades, and murdering tracer with just one mine
>>337089656
>Huge health pool
True. Even when the mech is killed, she's still alive.
>Shield blocks projectiles
Cooldown skill, and you have to remember, all she has is a peashooter for attacking
>flying acts as a battering ram and crosses map fast
Trueish, but also her shift with a cooldown
>ult can be launched & bomb
Her ult can also be launched and completely fucking miss or overshoot the enemy depending on the place and way launched. Powerful in someone smart's hands but not the easiest. I still see people thinking they have to stand still to use it, sadly.
>mech comes back quickly
Only if the explosion does dmg, fi not, she has to pistol enough or die
>out of her mech pistol
It's all she has at that point though, but yeah, it's no joke
>fast and hard to hit
Nigga everyone's the same speed, this ain't no scout vs heavy shit, and her mech is the 2nd easiest thing to hit in the game after Reinhardt's shield
>>337094984
>play of the game is widowmaker getting a kill, missing 4 shots, then getting another kill
>>337090625
FIO
>>337089656
>hard to hit
Are you actually playing against console tards? Just shooting in her direction I hear my nades hitting her critbox
>>337096129
I seriously think it's gonna be nerfed soon. Me and another junk held a choke point for 5 minutes
>>337096157
In a junk v junk, it's all about who has the high ground.
>>337095792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKOO4K9F2E
You can find links for hack if you search.
>>337085474
Not shit at all but she really needs some kind of answer for long range attackers.
Maybe a built in cannon that's on an 8 second cooldown or something? It could take a second to charge and fire a hitscan projectile that deals medium damage.
>>337093415
Just like your opinion
>>337085597
Who the fuck even gets killed by that one.
It's only good to clear an objective of enemies unless Zenyatta wastes his ult on it.
>>337095963
Of course you would rather not argue. Your argument is fucking ridiculous. Everything you have said about your "playstyle" as Dva basically sounds like you just get carried by your teams. You sit back and "Supress" with the character with the shittest DPS by far while having the biggest roundest hitbox with a big DEAD CENTER critbox. What do you even get legendaries for? Can't be eliminations or damage or being on fire or a whole bunch of shit from what we saw of your stats. Only Dva scoreboard shit that isn't tracked like that would be out of mech eliminations, ult kills or damage blocked
>Out of mech kills, basically a whole bunch of dipshits got killed by your team after you tagged them recently
>Ult kills, a whole bunch of dipshits don't know how to get behind a wall like 6-7 seconds after hearing NERF THIS
>Damage blocked for a Dva, a whole bunch of dipshits ulted at you while your LADS was off cooldown
>>337096270
What if you try spinning?
>people use NERF THIS thinking that it will actually kill anyone rather than using it to make them scatter off the objective
Spinning?
>>337096726
>>337085474
Everytime I play her I get focused so hard I can't do shit.
That or I suck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwyFAyBtUj4
all of the top 4 are getting nerfed
Mei is the only OP character. Two of them wreck teams with that fucking ice wall.
>>337096650
>Your argument is fucking ridiculous
and your argument is based on assumptions and guess work. You never seen me play you are literally getting bent out of shape off your own imagination. You are literally sat at your computer getting mad because you are imagining me playing in whatever way you think I play. That is your problem not mine, my win rate has been going up so I have no reason to care what you think stop being so upset about what other people play.
>>337096812
So don't charge in with the ult like an autist. Flank the fight with it, make it so they don't see it until it's too late.
>>337096913
Please don't nerf my waifu!
>>337095358
>tfw I've been sticking with Bastion but I get way more kills in turret more than I ever do as a tank
Not sure what I'm doing wrong
>>337095548
this is the kind of shit that shows this anon hasn't even played the game.
Dva can't melt shit, She's a hit n run character.
There are clearly powerful teamups that are VERY difficult to match, Sure they are beatable but to do such takes so much effort in a game that shouldn't require it.
Not to mention every anon here screams change character! how many pugs do you know that change character for a good reason?
So unless your playing a 6 man team with people that are willing to cheese to fight cheese your SoL.
Im really interested to see how blizzard handles match making, As is matching serves only to group people up and thats it, Skill cap is clearly ignored.
Welcome to team based shooters anon, It's cheese or be cheesed.
>send a xxx to take out xxx
>Implying the enemy team won't just kill xxx character over and over while they try to get to the enemy.
It's like you don't even understand how fps work.
The only real thing you can do is stack your ENTIRE TEAM and take points, If your team doesn't understand that concept above all others then your going to lose quite a bit.
This game rewards numbers over everything else.
>>337096812
Might as well be anyone with an ultimate that doesn't sacrifice the rest of their kit to use.
>>337096913
>bastion
>only 13% chance of being picked
I find that really fucking hard to believe
>>337096913
2/3 of my favorites are f-tier
not sure how to feel
>>337096973
Everything you said about how you play frames a play style that gets absolutely nothing done except against people that can't aim and over react to taking one damage a second. Then you go on to talk about you you're so good that you manage to get 9 randos to vote for your after game completely average (as evidenced by the stats YOU posted) scorecard. So you are either playing against those scrubs I mentioned above or you're full of shit. Simple logic really.
>>337097258
Different anon but I'm calling bullshit as well on people getting "legendary" as often as that guy said he did.
Level 47 and I've seen it happen one single time for a roadhog and only because it was some streamer. I have never seen anyone get above 7 after that though.
>>337097157
reinhardt shield while someone shoots him real quick. For some reason turret tears through the shield but cannon is kinda shit
>>337086384
Just pick genji and bait a deflect most autismo bastions will shoot themselves to death
>>337096913
I don't think this is too accurate, I've seen way more roadhogs and bastions than lucio or mccree
>>337086384
>listening to any feedback blizzard gives
funnily enough, the only team that actually has any kind of clue about their game's meta is Hearthstone, but even then it's just one big clusterfuck of RNG so all they really have to do is nerf cheese strats and not worry about buffing anything
>>337097258
I have a positive win percentage and have never had anyone complain about me in game and you are basing your whole opinion on suggestions of how I sometimes play D.VA which covered a shit tonne of ways to play both covering aggressive and careful play styles and you was able to form a complete idea about the style of play I do pulled from a post covering a multitude of play styles?
>game completely average (as evidenced by the stats YOU posted) scorecard
You have absolutely no proof for this, you have also provided zero proof for this and have done nothing but claim it so off your own opinion, sort your elitism out.
>>337095972
>Activate shield
>Bump him
>This knocks him out of Turret Mode.
>tfw destroying scrubs as zenyatta
What's the worse match you guys have ever been in? Mine is attacking the 2nd point in Volskaya against 2 junkrats and 2 meis and a mercy and no one wanted to be reinhardt and I was stuck as healer.
>>337097718
>only team that actually has any kind of clue about their game's meta is Hearthstone
is this a joke? Ben "secret pally takes a lot of skill" Brode leads hearthstone and it was in the fucking shitter until the standard changes. Kaplan is doing a 100x better job so far
>>337085474
She's good at making room with her ult for a hard push on the objective.
1 Popular Support completely counters her and another less popular soft counter Support can wreck her shit solo at most ranges.
>>337097967
not to mention that Junkrat fucking decimates her
>>337094749
>Reinhardt
>High damage
>>337085474
her guns seem kind of weak to me, even at point blank range a reaper will pop me out of the suit before I can kill him. Really all I find her that good for is her mobility, survivability, and using her jets then ulting in mid air, at a capture point or payload and clearing 4 people. Kind of a one trick pony like that.
>>337098165
Someone hasn't done a charge, ult and hammer combo yet. You can 1v6 if you place it right.
>>337098165
Getting pinned by a reinhardt when not looking at him is the worst feeling out there
>>337098230
>>337098296
And his team get shredded to fucking pieces He's only useful if M2 is being pressed
>>337097860
Koth against 3 roadhogs 1 Lucio 1 mei and a widowmaker. No fun allowed.
>>337091157
Roadhog isn't much of a tank, Roadhog is just a brawler to put it in MOBA terms. Survivable, but you can't really lead a push with him the way you can with Reinhardt and to a lesser degree Winston. I've found you can sort of lead a push with D-Va but her defense matrix doesn't last long enough to really pull it off.
>>337088538
she has good damage out of the suit but shit survivability and lacks any real mobility.
It's like tracer without the blinks and rewind, or Lucio without the heals or speedbuff or knockback.
>>337098368
But half of your team's dead cause they all hid behind your reinhardt who just got bumrushed
>>337098165
I didn't choose the charge life, the charge life chose me.
Will there be ways to earn credits? Like maybe weekly objectives you have to do? Or are we screwed and have to hope we get cash from loot boxes?
>>337098386
>not much of a tank
He's got the highest HP of any hero in the game. I still agree, though. Roadhog shines when you attack the enemies from the side.
>>337089310
Bigger asses I hope.
>>337097782
>>337090327
>Average of 22 seconds on fire
This is fucking garbage. My average is 1:50 and the most experience I have on a single character is 2 hours because maining is for fags.
>>337098165
>Average damage blocked is 12k
>Average Damage is 4k
>>337098368
>Literally every other tank is useless because they have no shield to stop their team from getting shredded
Anyone that plays a character and only uses a part of their kit is terrible.
>>337098368
it can be worth it in some cases. if you have multiple people lined up and you hammer down then charge through them. That's some PotG material after you just blocked thousands of damage leading the payload
>see a lineup of a junkrat, a hanzo, a widowmaker, and a bastion that hasn't gotten in turret mode left as he leaves his base at the end of a payload map
>hammerdown
>charge
>knock all 4 of them off the cliffsidealso go flying off the cliff to my death
Totally worth.
>>337098698
Okay post averages for players in general of shut it.
>>337098738
>mfw see tenhardts go for something like that
>life flashes before my eyes
>realize I have a trap that stops him in his tracks and a mine to bounce him in the air to disorient him
>repeat once he starts running at me
>he retreats and eats a shitton of grenades
>>337098602
All of it is in health though, I hope you like feeding ult to the enemy
>>337098602
yeah he's got great HP, he can self heal, he's incredibly survivable.. but he's not someone that your team can get behind and shield them from damage. He's better when he's not leading the push but is instead ganking from the side with his chain. He's more survivable than other good flankers which also means he can start contesting the point ahead of the team and survive. Tracer or Edgydeathman can kill a few people maybe burst down a bastion, but if they try to claim the point alone they will probably get rekt.
I just wish I didn't hate his aesthetics, cause he's really effective, but I don't like playing as a fatass in a gimp mask.
Same reason I won't play Witchdoctor in D3, doesn't matter how effective they are I don't like playing some nigger with parkinson's.
>>337098948The Huntar, lays a trap for his prey.
>>337090136
It's weird that it doesn't count the brawl mode, I probably have as much time in that this last week.
>>337092952
Nice win percentage, I've only got 69% with Zenny and 74% with Tracer, those are the highest among people I actually play often enough.
>>337096203
>Someone noticed it
You're alright nigga.
>>337098687
>people complain about censorship over Tracer's ass
>see her in game
>she has no ass
Taylor Swift and her could compete over world's flattest ass.
>>337090136
8 hrs of Mercy
3 hrs of Junkrat
3 hrs of phara
1 hr of Reaper
>>337098378
It's like i have cataracts
>>337090625
I like the Murloc mech skins.
>>337099005
>>337099005
he's also very strong on defence. The enemy is forced to advance close, giving you amble opportunities for easy hooks. But yeah, he is certainly not one for leading the charge like Reinhardt.
Really, Reinhardt and to a lesser extent Wintson are the only proper tank. Zarya and Streetpiggy are Brawlers, and D.va is more of a Brawler/Flanker combo.
>>337099328
if they improved D-Va's defense matrix she could lead an advance. But it's like 3-5s and then she's the most easily crit "tank" in the world.
>>337099436
It feels good seeing tanks melt in miliseconds under the fire of multiple bastions
>>337085794
>her ult
I've been using her as an anti-sniper and going behind enemy lines to rek their shit, she does enough damage to solo anyone in the game and still survive, besides Mei maybe.
>>337099436
>Tfw you Zen E and crit her
"Tank"
>>337090136
>Nearing end of beta
>UGH, I haven't tried SJW learn my pronouns yet
>I guess I'll give it a try...
Holy shit, she's amazing. Melting cis scum all day ery day.
>>337085597
The irony is that she was nerfed already in previous betas.
>>337099552
I've had trouble soloing with her because her crit zone is too easy to hit.
She's good against the snipers if you catch them off guard, and maybe a shit bastion that isn't paying attention
but anyone else her damage output is too low and her crit zone too big.
>>337086182
Blizzard said they will not nerf Bastion.
>>337099798
gotta get close mah boi, I boost into them and spam the cannons
>>337086182
> All those heroes are countered by Junkrat
> Bastion is rendered useless if a Genji is in play
wew lad
>>337099802
>it's a 2 Bastion's on Hanamura episode
I guess I'll have to learn how to play Genji cause he's pretty much the only character that can get around that choke and do something about multiple bastions.
>>337099751
>tfw Zarya with Mercy boosting me and max charge
>launch ult and kill half the people caught in it with one right click
I weep for the day most players figure out Genji's ancient chinese secret of reflecting.
>>337096913
I don't know where you're getting this statistics but it's blatantly false.
>>337099854
yeah I do, that's how I can take out shit Bastions and snipers.
But if I run into a Reaper, he can burst me down faster than I can burst him down. If I run into a McRee I get flash banged and fan the hammer in the face. If I run into a Tracer.. well depends if her rewind is up or not. If her rewind is burnt and I catch her unaware she'll probably die or flee blinking away. If her rewind is up she can just outmanuver me until I'm basically as squishy as her but without her mobility.
Soldier 76 I'm dead. Roadpig I'm dead
>>337085474
>D. Va's ulti blast radius
>standing at higher ground shooting at payload escort
>hear a "nerf this!"
>yell for my team to get away
>tell them to get behind a fucking wall
>still standing over the edge at higher ground
>team still on top of the self destruct
>"NOOOOOO"
>everyone dies before my eyes
>explosion brings me down to 1% health dispite my distance
>pic related
Fuck her ultimate. That was only day one of the beta, three hours in. There is no guaranteed safety unless you're out of the line of sight.
>>337099927
>tfw Zarya with Mercy
>Mecha drops out of the sky
>explodes on bubbles doing no damage
>use energy to kill the offending diva
>>337089467
didn't even watch your video dude :^)
>>337099923
Go reinhardts and junkrats and phara
>>337100176
>be me in first day of open beta
>be mercy and heal team
> see dva ult run about 10m away
>whew that was close
>it goes off, whole team dies
Well shit it's got a huge blast radius
>>337085474
Just use the ult at the right time and you win the game
>>337085474
The problem with D.Va is that she relies too heavily on people supporting her flank to be genuinely useful. You can try and dash in and close the gap between you and the camping Bastion but with nobody covering your side and ass, you'll just get blown immediately by Mr HIGH NOON or Edgy McDIE DIE DIE.
Couple that with the fact that closing any gaps with your dash just makes it easier to hit your already insanely large critbox, and all you have is a 'Tank' with only minor defensive capabilities but an otherwise offensive toolset.
Her cannons honestly need to fire slower but be more powerful, the defensive matrix needs to cover a wider area and her boosters should maybe have a backburn effect so anyone you whiff and don't knockback gets burned, just so they can't immediately get a bead on you.
And give her some shields, fuck.
>>337096913
Double Gorilla strats skew Winston way higher than he'd be if no duplicates on a single team was enforced. If there's any nerf to Winston it would be that.
Really for these statistics to mean all that much in terms of 'balance' you'd have to look at statistics from individual maps, and then there's just not enough data from high tier players. That and not all teams are created equal, some strats might be statistically overvalued because the teams doing them are just plain better at executing and thus make it farther and have more of a showing in the data.
Really it's just too early to make any calls based on pro play. Hard numbers on DPS and hitscan vs. projectiles can and should be valued though, some characters like Widowmaker and Tracer are on paper vastly superior to a lot of other characters, but are held back by realistic player skill. Or in Widowmaker's case, not held back at all and a constant pick when the map has spots for her, whereas Hanzo is extremely rare and mostly only picked for 1 small portion of the map, to provide sonar utility and 1 ult before swapping to a Widowmaker.
>>337093271
Please tell me 4 more cute facts about Mei!
>>337101918
Her vagoo probably smells terrible for being fat
Her thigs most likely chafe so she has a horrible rash on her inner thighs
Will die in her 30-early 40's due to some diabetes-related disease or cardiac arrest
Shit pick and is instantly counterplayed by anyone above bronze rank
>>337100176
On the other hand, it's hilarious how the flimsiest of low cover will let you survive totally unharmed no matter how close you are to the explosion.
>>337089414
Minigun that has no fall off damage or spread
Just fuck me up
It's not possible to win as attacking side on numbana.
>>337103251
Numbana is not a fun map
>>337103251
its pretty easy
just crouch behind the cart to evade the widowmakers and bastions and whatever hellish machinations the enemy has in store
>>337089232
>he uses D.Va as a tank
My god
>>337085474
Shit? No. Does she need help? Absolutely.
>>337096913
Why would you nerf just based on how often people pick them?
People might just be picking genji or McCree because they like the design or character. Shouldn't it be based off of how well they do in a match instead of just how often they're picked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ugJZXlA0oM&feature=youtu.be
>>337105287
The stats are based off of pro level games, these are the players that are going to pick what's effective rather than what they like. If every match only had a Lucio on one team, his percentage would be 50%. Instead him and McCree are at roughly 120% - they're both picked on both teams in every match, sometimes even picked by multiple members of each team.
There's a very real concern about balance/viability of other picks when one character in two of the classes is so dominantly shown in the highest levels of play. Lucio fills a niche that nobody else can, that of a speed buff for the whole team at almost all times: the only real way to balance that would be to make the other supports be equally appealing in feature - for Symetra to be picked as often as Lucio, her teleporter would probably have to become her E and she'd need a useful ult. That's how extremely valuable Lucio's speed is.
McCree utterly dominates anyone who gets near him, is a great mid range poker, and hard counters the most popular tank at roughly 10 meters out; you can throw a flashbang above Reinhardt's shield at its max range to make the aoe hit him from above/behind, then fan on his head to immediately remove their team's giant shield. In comparison, Pharah has to jump straight above him and shoot down repeatedly, making herself a huge easy target for a Widowmaker and taking exponentially longer.
>>337085474
this design confirm that Blizzard art director is a Kill la Kill fan.
So what changes, nerfs buffs would you suggest for balancing or improving the game overall?
>Bastion
Add some kind of turn rate to turret mode, not too much, but enough so if you flank him he can't react that fast. Damage is fine.
>Widowmaker
Ult takes more time to charge, lower charged shot damage so she can't one hit bodyshot Zen and tracer
>Mei
takes longer to freeze with main weapon.
>>337107189
>nerfing bronze league heroes
LOL!
>>337107189
I can agree with all of these, though I also feel that Bastion should either be unable to heal in turret mode, or heal should take multiple seconds to recover from. Maybe make it take a bit longer to exit turret mode. In exchange though his recon mode should have much less growth on its cone of fire and should hit a little harder per shot. Right now it's the same as 76's in per shot damage, but grows extremely inaccurate for shooting it even above twice. He should be able to fill the role of either a terror turret down a limited avenue or a mid range harasser like 76.
Mei's is whatever, she's not overpowered, just annoying.
I'd like Hanzo's arrow to hit 150 like full charge Widowmaker. Maybe lower cooldown on his ricochet shot by a second.
Make Symetra's teleporter her E skill, but make it so it only functions when she's actively with the teleporter.
No duplicate heroes on a team. In exchange Winston's LMB gets more ammo and hits just a smidge harder. Right now he only seems to be truly effective when paired with another Winston, but in casual play duplicate heroes on a team is just never fun.
Add a half second delay to Tjorborn's turrets locking on and firing, and a turnspeed.
Make Zenny either have 100 health 100 shields, or 50 armor 100 shields. Make heal orb LOS drop 5 seconds, make Discord LOS drop 2 seconds but allow others to see the mark.
Reduce Zarya self shield cooldown by 1 or 2 seconds.
Reduce AOE on McCree's flashbang slightly.
Holy fuck, when are they gonna nerf Torb's turret?
>Melts squishy heroes within seconds
>Perfectly autolocks the moment you reveal yourself an inch
>Has absurd, almost cross map range
>>337089626
I love when people provide nothing to conversation besides this
Get over it dude
i want to play d.va but she sucks so i guess ill just wait for titanfall 2
>>337107189
Bastion needs a rework so he can't do that well alone against fucking shitters but also making him viable against a decent team. Like being able to move while in turret mode but having a damage ramp up so shitters have time to react but he can still defend himself a little bit more against people who know how to counter him. He is always shit when you need a class that is actually good against a decent team. He is weak as shit against a little bit of coordination, but shitter keeps complaining. He needs a rework. I fucking hate how I already forgot what I was thinking about to make viable against people who don't suck ass at the game; it fixed something else about him but I can't fucking remember what it was. Movility is a big deal in a fps against people who knows how to play, and that fuck him.
>Widowmaker
I was thinking that she could be able to see aroun herself in a specific radius but farther away while scoped so is not as easy as being able to immediatly see where people are and she need to scan a little bit, it's too braindead right now. And only teammates near her (big) area can see where enemies are, so it can be usefull near a point. The problem with her ult is that you can do something like that without removing the posibility of shooting people from away to watch a flank. Maybe being able to see everyone at first and then reducind the AoE to a specific radius around her could be good enought.
She charges waaay too fast. Also, make it so the AoE can only be seen by teammates, not like the soldier's ability so it does not give her position away but teammates can know where to stand on.
Mei is slow enought as it is, really.
>>337107951
Bastion is weak as shit as he is in term of survability unless his team is carring him, the last shit he need is being easier to get killed.
You want Hanzo to be even more spammy? That class is too much peak, shoot and pray as it is. That would make him even more braindead.
>>337109795
Basion is in a tough place balance wise. I've seen him played in top tier games, but it's a hugely niche role and highly map dependent, and also reliant on the enemy team basically letting him have his small avenue of fire, and letting his team take advantage of it. The issue being if the other team would've just swapped in a D.Va, he takes roughly 2 seconds of attention every now and again to completely remove, making him totally useless.
Making his repair worse in turret mode, or making it slower to get out of turret mode literally does nothing to his only strength, which is covering an avenue of fire. Anything that would deal with him would still deal with him in the same manner, he'd just have to think a little harder about repositioning, which would make him a little harder to brainlessly function in pub games. Making his recon much stronger on the other hand would offer incentive to play him more often as mid range harasser is an extremely important role. Having that covered by Bastion also frees up a lot of strategy to have him both harass and also set down as a turret when necessary, or tank bust his way onto a point with his ult.
As for Hanzo, his LMB is shit. He is supposed to be a sniper like Widowmaker but his projectile hits weaker than hers, takes as long to charge, and has travel time, making it unreliable even if your aim is perfect, which is once again harder than Widowmaker's. His strength compared to Widowmaker is in his utility, sonar and being able to shoot around corners. He is also better at holding his own in close range via shotgunning ricochet, as well as clearing out a large path without putting himself at risk via his ult.
Essentially, I just don't see him played hardly at all, making his LMB at least match Widow's and upping his ability to harass at range around corners would make him more valuable in comparison.
>>337108464
?
You can fuck it up like nothing. Most of the time it's a waste of a slot to have a torb in the game unless the enemy is retarded. Torb's turret is good as way to prevent flankin classes to get a really easy way into your area, but if your teammates are not watchin their flanks, you are in a shitty team anyway.
I eat torb's turret like cake as Tracer.
Trow it around to guarantee that the enemy team is going to receive some damage during a fight and then jump to help because against a good team, if you are not bein carried, torb is shit at area denial if he gets too attached to his turret. If they fucked your whole team up already, your shitty turret is going to do fuck all to stop them.
>>337090435
>playing my boy rein
>nerf this on the cart
>charge that shit
>clip the diva as she runs away sending her into a wall behind her
>i slam the mech into the wall and shield
>kills her, team pushes the cart while i pose like zyzz on top of it
>>337110224
>Basion is in a tough place balance wise.
Yeah, there is so much you can do to balance a class that just rely on the enemy not having common sense to counter him. Even if you create a better tutorial to each class so more people understand his weakness, you'd still came across people running straight at him. It's retarded.
I don't like to watch matches about games like this but I like to think in ways to use the character and I imagined him just like people ended up playing, just a quick way to get a surprise on the team and go back to wathever else specially in maps where your spawn is right in the corner, because he is really shit right now if people know he is on the map.
Maybe put a small shield in front of him (that can't block ults), give him damage ramp up and slower movement while shotting but still being able to move could make it viable.
Maybe slower repair rate in torret mode so he has to decide to change or not, and not being able to get shield back unless at full health so it's worth to try it, specially if you know you don´t trow the 100% of your damage right after healing.
I like to imagine him moving around in any way but also being somewhat depend on his team so people can go solo with him on pub that easily. I like to imagine him as a tall turret that moves around with more movibily or seeing appear behind a wall as smaller torrent with a shiel to pass trough chokes or still fuckin people who want to trow themself around like a Phara who is completely brain dead and shit like that.
The fact that needs to change is how usefull he can be if people know that your enemy is rolling a Bastion.
Defensive wise, he would good at preventin people to ream freely without taking too much damage. Offensively, he could be the difference between being able to pass trough a choke point that is being spammed or guarded, or access a point and hold it a little bit without being a tank.
Maybe make his two form well balanced damage/movent wise or
Am I the only one who mains soldier 76?
>multirockets
>fast firing gun
>unlimited sprint
>ultimate gives you and aimbot
Works for attack and defense
>>337111839
create a big difference between the two and make his ultra being able to switch faster to both of them and maybe add a pluss to his state. Like if you are in turret mode, you get your shield right away and get more health, or better movement and no extra health, or if you are on regular mode, you can run normally but with no fall damage. So basically being able to go health and damage or movement and damage. You could still destroy shit with using the ult like in pubs, you would have sniping bastion against people who don't know how to play or can't coordinate unless he is in ultra so it's balanced. Ultra, faster transformation and no damage falloff. Shitter can see him comming, but he can still be a treath to people who know their team has a bastion.
But to be realistic, the game is really unbalanced in general, so until they set what each class should do in the game, talking about balancing him is going to be hard unless you change his fucking movibilty, otherwise he will still get shitted one by just selecting a specif hero to counter him before facin the enemy team. They need to tweak Phara, junkrat, widowmaker, Zarya, etcc... meanwhile making bastion viable in both sides skillwise and then you can really talk about balance in general.
I think trying to go for a neutral change in bastion instead of being either turrent or walk around could be more usefull in the current state of the game.
>>337111942
>He's never been on a team with 3 soldier 76 players all refusing to change characters.
Happens all the fucking time. You are part of the problem.
>>337093271
that's a pretty broad statement.
>>337085474
I really wanted to love this game but
>20 tick
genuinely makes it unplayable to me. Probably because I'm hypersensitive to bullshit thanks to being sperg.
>you're making shit up
Oh please. I'm definitely not the only one who frequently gets shot "through" structures in a game where that isn't a feature. The worst thing is being very aware that it's "just latency" or "just lag" or "just dumb luck" or whatever the fuck, and still getting uncontrollably pissed off over it because it's still fucking bullshit.
I just can't do it. Playing the beta was so fucking irritating, so with the very few moments of the game actually being fun, it instead made me decide to never play anything below 60tick in my life again (CSGO is 64 and TF2 is 66, and even in them I still notice these bullshit moments occasionally. Guess why all the pros and competitions that matter only play on maxed 128 tick servers?).
>>337111942
>plays grandpa
>post ends with 1942
But yeah, 76 is fine and all but he's the usual Swiss Army Knife character who excels at nothing and just has a cavalcade of other people's moves.
>>337115667
Its probably for that exact reason that hes in my top 5 most played. I tend to gravitate to jack of all trades master of none classes/characters, one of the biggest examples is my most played class in Tribes Ascend was Soldier by a LARGE margin.
>>337089415
they did agree that its hard to balance him because in the closed beta at high ranked games he was never picked because how easy it is to counter him and they understand he is frustrating to new players.
>>337090136
Stopped playing two days ago because I had to work for my exams, otherwise I would still be playing.
>>337085597
I think it's blizzard taking a jab at the constant bitching for shit to be nerfed or buffed.
I'm sure they have enough experience with that from wow to realize that fans bitching for a nerf don't know shit and will eventually ruin the mechanics of the game.
>>337092261
ching chong chang
What did she mean with this ?
>>337092819
w8 for ranked games, they where 100 times better then unranked games
I played the closed beta and in high ranked games teamwork was always awesome.
>>337099915
>been telling niggers that bastion is easily countered with genii
>decide to practice what I preach
>switch to genii to take down a bastion in a contested room
>shift at him for a huge chunk of damage
>instantly E as he and all his team decide to fire on me
>oh look bastion is dead now
>proceed to get a triple kill before getting taken down
Not to mention D.Va just outlasts his turrets with zero evasion on your part.
>>337117085
or just pick mei and put a wall and proceed to push the car or take the objective.
There was a reason why bastion was literally never picked in ranked games where people want to win and are forced to work together.
>>337089780
I actually played the closed beta at high ranked games and bastion was literally never picked it was always Lucio,Genji and McCree and even after all 3 of them got nerfed not much did change.
>>337117035
Do people know that there is an objective in ranked games ?
>>337117181
I actually do that most of the time. I don't know why people don't complain about mei's cool down bit she's pretty much required if you want to move the cart effectively.
>throw up a wall a few meters ahead of the cart or at a choke point
>freeze anybody dumb enough to come through the small corner you've given them while team pushes the cart forward.
>repeat
That plus it's great from breaking up healers from their party. Definitely my main when the game comes. Gonna make so many shitters rage quit.
>>337085474
>people think we can't recognize viral threads
>>337117349
yes ranked games where 100 times better then unranked games where people play what they want and dont try to win.But like in all ranked games you have a meta of heroes that are very good, before they closed the beta Genji,Lucio,McCree in the hands of good players where wrecking other heroes, this was exactly 1 of the reason why bastion had to be buffed in the beta but it was still not enough that people did even bother to play him.
Once you have a team of good players heroes like bastion tend to be very fast forgotten.
>>337089571
Her ult is not for killing, it's for making the enemy leave a point. It's actually a very good ult, that can counter quite a few things, for example Lucio or Zenyatta ult are countered with it as they are usually used to make a push to take a point back, but if you have a diva ult there, they are forced to leave, by the time they come back their ult has already finished. You can also force bastions and other tanks to move away from a chokepoint. D'va is a decent character really.
>>337117487
>talking about a popular game is viral marketing unless I like that game.
Get out. Literally every new release there is a nigger like you.
>>337117678
aha and I forgot to add 1 more thing is people dont use ultis for random kills that bring nothing to wining the game, they are usually saved for when you honestly need them to defend or push a objective.In unranked games people use ultis just to get play of the game or for random kills that dont contribute to anything.
>>337117860
Honestly I don't think I'd like ranked. I mean I work towards the objective rather than kills now but people treating it like a job would kill the fun for me.
>Stop playing her as a tank!
Okay
>get up to someone
>damage is still the same as if I were far away
>die in 2 seconds
>>337117956
I think you will like it much more, its not anti fun , but it as a nice feeling knowing your team m8 understand their role and they are actually working together with you.
Unranked games are totall mess usually where most of the time they never care to actually work together.
why does it have to cost 40$
would have played it a lot with friends if it was free, but no way im paying that much
not when theres no usermade content and with inevitable DLC coming up
also what the fuck is up with ads these days?
>>337093419
Kind of this, since when you are a lower level, you are usually matched with people of lower level too and they don't know how to play. I am about lvl30 now and I noticed that is harder to play, as more people know what comps are good or even op. I definitely play more strategically now and care less about kill/death ratio, you have to focus on the objective and team work, not frags since there no point having 40 kills if you lose the game in the end.
>>337118207
Just in case someone was wondering, that anon is pretending to be that youtuber in order to get dislike votes on his video because the guy fucked his crush.
>>337092953
>30 kill no death
you know you're fucking good when calculating your KD ratio is an arithmetic error
FUCK HANZO.
Why is it that this easymode sniper faggot does more damage with his shitty bow than Widowmaker does on a fully charged shot?
Travel time doesn't mean shit.
>>337118616
The worst part about Hanzo is the majority of killcams I get when he kills me are just randomly shots with little to no thought
Literally the only thing that makes her good is retards focussing her instead of anyone else. And the porn.
>>337118616
because travel time ,because travel drop of the arrows
Because Widowmaker has a smg in close combat and hanzo can still use only his bow that he needs to charg and while he is pulling it his move speed is much slower and easy to kill.
>>337089516
Just like torbjorn.
>>337089716
Blocked it last night. Dove behind it to get away from it as bastion. Cuz you know, I was payload surfing.
>>337118874
>Slower while pulled
He is still faster than WM while she is zoomed in. Not to mention him being able to see around him.
I am already tired of having to hit him twice while he just has to shoot his random ass arrows in my general direction to 1shot me.
NERF THIS
>>337093309
>LOL, hehe :3
>>337093484
to me it just sounds like REEEEEEEEEEE
>>337089656
>hard to hit
>>337090625
>short hair
Might as well fuck a guy faggot.
>>337100484
That skin makes me diamonds.
>>337119583
winky face boys ww@
>>337085474
literally the only good thing about her is clearing objectives areas with her ult, apart from that I take all the other tanks over her.
>Decide to try Mei out
>W+M1
>Win all 1 v 1s
Wew lad
>>337085474
DVA is shit on payload maps
only good on small maps because you can recharge mech fast and use ult effectively when they mass on cap points
>>337121162
BUILD A WALL
>>337121710
BUILD A WALL
TALON WILL PAY
WORLD WORTH SAVING
competitive players claim she's the weakest character in the game so i trust them.
>>337121983
>Competitive
>Overwatch
>>337085823
the radius is huge, but its also largely LOS, just run around a corner
>>337121983
what do they say about Bastion?
>>337121837
Memes aside she's fucking top tier and nobody realizes it because they're too busy screaming about bastion.
>>337122087
dude the easiest most skill-less tasks in the world can be competitive. it's defined by there being a presence of people attempting to git gud and participate in leagues/tournaments.
>>337122410
>Inch high skill ceiling
>"""""""""""""Competitive"""""""""""""
>>337122536
yes that's exactly right.
think of the simplest task in the world (that 2 people can compete in obviously) and there could be a competitive scene if people actually gave a shit.
>>337122536
way to miss the point you retard
>>337122642
>>337122678
>all these mental gymnastics to sell Overwatch as a competitive game
Shills pls, its a casual shooter and thats all it will ever be
>>337122835
that's his entire point, dingus
if people want to be playing the game competitively then they will, no matter how casual or easy it is - there's party games with active competitive scenes and tournaments, so why is overwatch magically excluded?
games a joke lol
>>337091703
>go toe to toe
>out of mech
if anyone plays d.va as front lines with pistol you deserve to die. Just sit in the back behind your teammates making harassing long range shots to build up your ult. If you play with some sense the only people that will ever kill you are snipers or if a flanker slips past the front lines.
>>337123021
this
>>337123094
You could do that
or you could develop a pair of balls
>>337093440
source on that?
>>337123050
That literally says nothing for an objective based game you know? Literal CoD tier reasoning.
>>337123246
what? and rush the point solo like other retards I have noticed in the beta? If you aren't with your team your dead. This isn't a game for lone wolves.
>>337123246
I have a vagina so that would be hard but I understand your point.
>>337085823
The radius is actually fuckhueg but you can literally stand next to it as long as there is some cover inbetween.
>>337123601
pretty easy to cap an objective when everyone is dead retard, sorry you can't do anything other than stand on a point and blame others when you lose
>>337123669
>I can't win without the team carrying me :C!
Stick to MOBAs
I wish genji had stayed a melee character.
>>337123909
Who said anything about blaming others? Here's your (you) kid, go to bed now.
>>337124175
lol dry ur eyes dude not my fault ur dog shit at this game and have to take out ur rage on good players on an anonymous image board :DD
Since the entire point of D.Va is to sneak up and hit it from behind I bet she's actually a domming type, the kind that wears a strapon.
What I'm saying is, this is my fetish.
>>337093074
Sounds like that 10% needs work, anon.
>>337086276
The best anti-sniper is Winston and it's not even a competition. In fact he's anti turret too since he can just leap behind enemy lines, pop up a bubble and distract Bastion and Torb's turrets while his team pushes.
>>337091540
you activate the shield and boost into the enemy hero, which does 25 damage and knocks the hero around, which means they'll be distracted by you so an ally can come by and take them easily. It's also good for moving cover to cover advancing on a bastion or high level turret.
>>337089656
A tier not really. As a D.va main i just enjoy her mobility. But everything else is kind of meh. Any enemy with a brain is just going to outtrade you if they hit your crit location. The cool thing about having ult up and being killed is that you can activate it just before your mech explodes so you can zone your enemy and summon a new one quickly.
One thing D.va feels good at is just making constant pressure. I always seem to get a gold medal with damage.
is there a better combination?
>>337125395
>mfw reflecting JUSTICE as genji
>>337093325
>Play Reaper, shoot sho-
>Frozen
>Play Tracer, blink ou-
>Frozen
>Play Genji, dash out o-
>Frozen
>Play McCree, roll back ou-
>Frozen
>Play 76, about fa-
>Frozen
The point is, her ice spray freezes you so fucking fast that by the time you realize that Mei is there and/or see the ice effects, you're frozen before you can hit your abilities or do anything but look around.
>>337125636
>McCree
>Frozen
Stop with the bullshit. He stuns faster and hits harder than any range She's effective at. There's nothing she can do against a McCree of similar skill levels other then hope her shift registers first.
>>337126330
Trust me, I've flashed Mei plenty quick, but like I said, by the time the stun registers, you're already slowed and frozen enough that she can simply recover and headshot you.
>>337125592
>mfw reflect dragon arrow from Hanzo as Genji and get quadra
>>337126792
>Trust me, I've flashed Mei plenty quick, but like I said, by the time the stun registers
Then your internet is trash because that doesn't happen.
>>337126792
unless you've got the slowest reaction time in the world this really isn't the case, even when she jumps you from behind you can just turn and flash bang her and instantly pop her for all of her health with fan. The only bad part is if she catches you while running and gets a good two seconds or so on you which slows your roll to nothing.
so what do you think is d.va's worst matchup?
I think it's Junkrat
getting close to him is suicide
>>337128032
Junkrat is good against everyone
Junkrat is master tier char
WE /WILDWEST/ NOW
>>337128161
eventually people will realize junkrat is seriously broken, but it will be after launch
>>337092002
the only character I wanted to play in battleborn and prolly the only reason I'll get it when it has a sale
I can't stand going against Bastion but I feel like it will get much easier when I know the maps better.
>>337128161
>getting assfucked by two torbs and a bastion
>pick junkrat
>clear every single turret out in short order
>win
>>337129706
Pretty sure everyone knows about cheeserat
>>337130773
Bastion is ridiculously overpowered in pub games because you are naturally much less coordinated, but utterly worthless against teams that can communicate well. Even bringing one or two buddies along vastly improves your odds. As a solo player your options are:
>burst damage
Anyone who does a lot of damage in a single shot is good against bastion. Pharah, widowmaker, junkrat, etc. can all peak in and out of cover to bring him down quickly (or force him away, which is effectively the same thing).
>shield support
reinhardt, winston, zarya, or dva can protect teammates while they make the push and blow his ass up with concentrated fire.
>flanking
a little bit tougher thanks to his sanic fast 360 degree turn radius and retarded DPS, but a good tracer can pop in and pulse mine him or rip him a new asshole in his glowing weak spot provided he doesn't spot you beforehand.
>forcing him to move
In the most literal sense. Reinhardt and dva can charge into him and knock him out of place, with reinhardt pinning him and most likely killing him soon after. Roadhog can yank his ass right out of turret form and blow him apart in one or two shots (no mobility powers and a big target, he's not surviving).
That being said he's fucking AIDS on hanamura because of that fuckawful chokepoint.
>>337131250
Everybody thinks bastion is the problem right now though
>>337131463
Not Everyone. Would rather deal with Bastion than McCree's bullshit.
>>337095358
>I honestly don't think there is a counter to that ult
Mei
>Ult at objective
>TEAM KILL
>mfw
D.va is extremely easy. I like her a lot.
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