Why do people even like Final Fantasy Tactics? It's heavily overrated
>>337056089
I love it.
>>337056172
what he said
10/10
>>337056172
Why tho
>>337056089
What the fuck. It's my fav game.
Characters, story graphics from estetics side, mechanics and story are awesome.
It's rly good RPG even without this Nostalgia bullshit.
Just don't use Orelandu and this will be 10/10.
FFT is okay at first, the battles in the early chapters are pretty well designed and the job system is an interesting way to control your characters' growth. However, as the game progresses the challenge falls apart and you end up OHKOing everything without needing to do much planning. Similarly, the story starts off strong with the medieval politics stuff but falls apart when the focus shifts to the demon nonsense. Overall it is far from a great game but it is enjoyable enough.
FFTA, on the other hand, seems to be pure garbage straight from the beginning. I'm not sure what people like about it.
>>337056089
Its good but I likedAdvancemore
If its overrated its only because SRPGS got less popular and somewhat more casualized after its release so nostalgia factor amps it up a bit for those craving SRPGS
Started it literally yesterday on a whim on my PS3 yesterday.
I think it's okay, but it's tedious as fuck. Also don't know why people get such a fucking boner or any story that happens to ape the War of the Roses or include a political narrative; it's hard to care about that shit when none of the characters are even remotely interesting.
>>337057801
>it's hard to care about that shit when none of the characters are even remotely interesting.
I think Olan is a good one, but you have to complete the game to understand why
>>337056632
Some people don't mind magical nonsense in their medieval fantasy games
>>337056089
It's still better than your opinion which frankly is garbage
>>337058897
i liked a lot of the chars, but yeah olan was one of the better ones
also
>mfw galaxy stop modded into galaxy chicken, 100% hit rate to drop the enemies brave to negative
anyone got the vid?
The music and atmosphere is great. The battles aren't really given to you and anyone who's thinks it not a hard game there first play through is lying. Like that other guy said though just don't use orlandu.
>>337056089
name a better Final Fantasy game.srsly, this game is so good it should drop the "Final Fantasy" from the name and just be called The War of the Lions
>>337059310
>anyone got the vid?
Holy shit, I need to see this
>>337059357
>The game is hard if you don't know what you're doing.
>And don't figure it out at all during the game.
>And don't use tools the game throws at you.
All I did my first playthrough was get ninjas, learn two swords and put it on knights. The game had two hard battles: execution site and Weigraf.
>>337059491
oh fuck those two
>>337059715
come on knight!
>>337059874
it WAS on youtube
was
>>337059715
Fuck it
LETS DO THIS
>>337059715
alchemist
>>337056415
Is there a point in using any of the characters that join your party? I used the original 5 (not relevant to the story just soldiers) and grinded the shit out of them
>>337060461
Yes, they have special abilities and sometimes get extra talk.
>>337060461
flavor/replay value, mixing it up
>not having one summoner and 4 mimes every fight
>>337056089
Draw your sword and say that to my face, faggot.
>>337056089
You probably don't like tactics game much I take it?
>>337060461
Only for unique abilities Tbh, no harm in just using generics though
>>337056632
>why is their fantastical stuff in a Final Fantasy game
"Overrated" is a completely worthless criticism that means nothing and is only used by contrarian morons to feel smart and superior for not liking something popular.
>>337059715
7 is a superior game.
Disgaea is a superior autism simulator.
>>337060553
>>337059715
Let's do this
>>337060553
>sword
>>337056089
A big part of its longevity is based on the SCC and Double Dare, for me.
Playing with a party of pure Knights is a very different game than a party of pure Chemists, Ninjas, or Monks, and the Double Dare makes for some very interesting challenges as well.
Currently in the middle of a DD where Ramza's a Chemist/Ninja and his support is an Oracle/Lancer. It's made for some really tough fights.
The SCC and DD pretty much take care of all the lack of challenge issues mentioned by >>337056632, and given the fact the bulk of your time with the game is going to be gameplay and it's not a big deal to play it over and over again.
>>337060891
>not being a dick ass thief with monk subs
>>337061057
>Being Thief when Ninja exists
>Not being a dual-wielding pistolero Chemist dealing death at max range
>>337060786
Wiegraf: *chuckle* All such tales of gods and their miracles are false. Those who would lead prefer that history suit their needs, and rewrite it to see that it does. And why shouldn't they? The fault lies not with them. The reeking masses yearn for gods and miracles. It is their opiate, and they consume it greedily. The people do not endeavor towards greatness, but rather mire themselves in their petty strifes --- shackles on the feet of man. Their leaders give them no more than that for which they clamor. It is history's oldest and most oft-repeated tale. Do men exploit this weakness to dominate their fellows? Mayhap they do. But they succeed only because the people are eager to know such dominion. Gods are only illusions born of man's fear. It is they who see this charade for what it is and join in the pageantry who are to blame.
Ramza: And you? You did not conquer your fear. You turned to the auracite to find your miracle.
Wiegraf: It is because I am weak, because I fear, that I turn to the gods. Can you claim to be free of weakness and fear?
The writing in this game was so fucking good
I just patched the psp version of fft 1.3, what am I in for
>>337061515
don't forget the slowdown fix
>>337061170
>preferring Ninja to Thief
Can't into uniques that way. Also can't turn a one-on-one showdown into a knight on his knees pleading for his life as he attempts to punch you for 19 damage.
>>337056172
That pic makes Ramza look like some sort of rapist
>>337061602
What WotL mods do you recommend, and will they still run on a PSP?
>>337061464
the writing on WotL was good, the original was meme-level trash
>>337061797
That's what I've heard, I've only played WotL.
>>337056089
Nigger I will fuck you up.
>>337061797
>the writing on WotL was good
Nice joke, friend.
>>337061020
Those challenges are awful and only serve to further reduce the tactical depth by removing options
>>337062023
That's a fine meme you got there, *damn* fine.
>>337061785
I was playing this recently:
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=8739.0
Liked a lot of the balancing ideias this guy introduced.
But, as it is with every FFT mod, it makes some VERY questionable decisions, like level scaling every enemy in the game with your party.
>>337056089
Great comfy atmosphere and the job system lets you do all sorts of creative broken shit
SRPG for people who only like JRPGs.
Matsuno makes cool worlds, but cannot design a battle system to save his life.
Is this game worth it?
>>337060461
Several of them are really overpowered
>played the game to death.
>broke disk unfortunately
>get into emulation years later
>play to death again
>learn about 1.13
>patch it in
>mfw it's kicking my dick in
This game's just fucking great all around really.
>>337059715
whats the deal with the mimic, why she wear the mask?
>>337059715
Let's go.
>>337062992
No one cared who she was until she put on the mask.
>>337062992
"Female Mimes wear a fox mask, alluding to Japanese mythology, in which many foxes, known as Kitsunes, can transform to look like other beings. Males have a hat which resembles a parrot (beak facing back), likely alluding to a parrot's ability to mimic human speech and other sounds."
Makes sense.
>>337056632
The gameplay in FFTA2 was fine, it's just that the story was pretty bad overall. Nice soundtrack though.
>>337059715
Geomancer looks best.
>>337063397
well after 19 years, now i know why
>>337056632
>FFTA, on the other hand, seems to be pure garbage straight from the beginning. I'm not sure what people like about it.
GBA babbies.
>>337059715
let's do it
>>337059715
Give me a soft cuddly mage.
>>337062408
I bought it and played for several hours before I realized I could be playing Monster Hunter instead and I'd probably be having much more fun.
>>337059715
ROLLAN!! DRK master race.
>>337059715
Calculator or wizard go
>>337062408
Don't even fucking bother. It has about 10 bosses and 20 tiny areas and practically all you do is fight these bosses over and over again mashing the A button. Get Fantasy Life if you want even slightly entertaining repetition.
The game mechanics suck. It's overly simplistic, grindy and lacks any semblance of strategy.
>>337066415
>any semblance of strategy.
Why would strategy be in a tactics game?
>>337056089
>It's heavily overrated
Yes, definitely.
>Why do people even like Final Fantasy Tactics?
Because it's not as overrated as you think.
>>337056089
It's because the job system is fucking great and anyone who disagrees is a lousy shitter who can't wrap their head around high levels of party customization in an RPG. It's by far most replay-friendly game in the series and is tremendously rewarding to anyone with the patience to master it.
With all that being said, it's not a masterpiece or anything. The balance is totally fubar, there's lots of annoying difficulty spikes for newcomers, the story pales in comparison to Tactics Ogre (even more so if you play the original PS1 version), and some of the mechanics are poorly designed (seriously, the Zodiac system is goddamn pointless). So yeah, it's a broken, unintuitive mess of a game, but fuck it. I love it and I have fun each time I do a run of it.
>>337061875
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>>337061704
>>337061509
>>337061359
Sauce these please, they are too cropped for results on google.
>>337067375
http://exhentai.org/g/744214/965a95b98a/
>>337067604
you are a good soul Anon.
what kind of arbritary challenges have you set up in fft?
>>337068483
No Orlandeu is a obvious one.
What's your favorite class? Mine is the thief
>your Genji armor is mine, MINE
>>337056632
Regardless of how some feel I think FFTA was still a decent game if not only for the expanded lore and races. Also the novelty of a tactics rpg on a handheld was still fairly new even if Golden Sun as a rpg was still better.