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>599 US DOLLARS
599 US DOLLARS
>599 US DOLLARS
599 US DOLLARS
>599 US DOLLARS
599 US DOLLARS
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I might get it, I'm tired of crossfiring my 290s and want a single card.
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It's time for an upgrade.
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>founders edition

What does this even mean?
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>>336801258
it's not that bad if you compare it to titan x. paying only $600 for more than $1000 of performance
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Alright /v/, help me choose wisely. Pick one:

GTX 1080p
PS4k
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>>336801258
$1000 DOLLARYDOOS
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>>336801445
that they found enough retards that'll buy anything they release- no matter the cost.
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lol pc master race only 1080? sony will have the ps4k soon which can do 4000 graphics.

so much for your $1000 graphics cards.
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>>336801258
>More power than a TItan X
>1070 will be equivalent to the TItan X
So how much of a lie is this
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>>336801470
PS4k I mean it says 4k in the title so it must be 4k, GTX 1080 only does 1080p
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>>336801258
I'll step up to it. thanks evga, never let me down.

>tfw just bought 960
>tfw step up to 1080 or 1070

prolly 1080, then ill get a better monitor a month later
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>>336801258
>PCucks will defend this
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can it play games in 4k? Cause 4Im not upgrading until I can play in 4k. for 200$ top.
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>>336801710
See you in 5 years
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How much power does these new graphic cards need? I have a 650W Corsair. Is that good enough?
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>8GB
>will come as 3.5 GB
>costs more than a modern console
>will still have less than console performance and constant crashing
>even if this is true and somehow the light outside the modern shit gpu industry pc has no games to use this thing on
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>>336801258
I just built a computer w/ i7-6700 non-k.
16 gb ram
620w psu
Old 750Ti card borrowed.

Thinking about upgrading psu to 850 fully modular and maaaaaybe a 1070?

Guess I'm in the waiting game for amd and future benchmarking. I'll drop more money in June
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>>336801835
xD
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Bets on what fuck-up will happen?
>Overheating
>BSOD
>3.5
>Woodscrews
>Fire upon 4k gaming
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>>336801641
Dont know if bait or just stupid
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>>336801574
>this whole post
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>>336801553
Just imagine AMD trying to pull this off...
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>Need a new graphics card since my GTX 660 is dying
>This gets announced
But I'm not shelling out that much for a card.
What should I upgrade to?
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>2016
>not knowing master race is a meme used by nvidia/AMD paid shills
>still get cucked into buying new graphics card the same way apple drones buy their iphones.
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>>336801979
NVIDIA has really got their drivers game together, it would be impossible for the current team to fuck up as much as their old twenty Asians in a room.

I'm certain they're going to pull someform of a 3.5 again. If ti's going to have 'Dedicated space,'that only lets you use 7 of the 8 or if it'll pull a 390x and fuck up the encoding so only brand new games realize you have 8gbs and not 4.
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>>336801916
>pcuck is so fucking mad they just post xD because they couldnt disprove me
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>>336802363
Nvidia drivers are still shit lately, especially on Windows 10. Gimping old cards, compatability issues with older games, etc.
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>>336801258
The best thing about this announcement, is knowing that 970 to 980ti cucks will finally start getting their shit gimped beyond belief so much that they'll be forced to shell out another 600$ or play new games at 1024x800 with 20 FPS.

Nvidiots always never saw it coming, despite it happening twice already. Maybe they'll learn one day, but probably not. Nvidia's marketing team is top tier, gotta give it to them.
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>>336802276
>>336801641
>>336801574
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>>336801641
Delicious post +1
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What's the point of buying a $600 graphics card when the newest games on PC are just console games?
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>buying nvidia after they fucked kepler users and the 3.5GB fiasco
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>>336802446
NVIDIA drivers are still not as bad as they used to be, I don't know what their current state is because after 3.5 I switched to AMD, but in the mid 00's it was nothing but constant shit updates that couldn't run anything and left you with a flammable brick that refused to play anything over low.
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>>336802460
>2016
>still think fish hooks are baits
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>>336801258
thats the same price point as the 980 was
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>>336802446
>gimping old cards

why do people sitll spew this dumb conspiracy despite there being literally no evidence for it?
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>>336802824
I know, right?
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I have a 650ti

What should I upgrade to?
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>>336802869
Why should you even upgrade?
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>>336802869
Titan x
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>>336802850
>percentage difference

on what?

>launch vs 1.3
is this fallout launch vs 1.3 patch?
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>>336802824
gimping old cards is true though, gtx 700 series is suffering hard from it. benchmarks and games are running worse on latest drivers than they did on last years drivers.
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>>336802586
>retards
just like buying 300€ consoles for a single game
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>>336802869
Wait for AMD to unveil the first Polaris chips. 1070 and 1080 are supposed to be highend enthusiast shit, while the first Polaris chips will be the 470 and 480, mid-end stuff. Apparently the 480 should have performance close to the 390, while being a much smaller and more efficient chip than both the 1070 and 1080. Reveal should be in a few weeks, at Computex apparently. There's no reason not to wait at this point.
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>>336802869
1070 or 1060
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
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>>336802943
FPS Percentage difference. And yes, difference compared to launch vs 1.3 patch.

Not only that, there's loads of reports of people running games like shit on the latest patches (using 700 series) that downgrade to older patches and get upwards of 30-40% FPS increases in newer games. Go figure.
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>>336802952
>gimping old cards is true though
then why hasn't anyone posted any tangible evidence?

>benchmark games are running worse and worse on new drivers
why hasn't anyone posted any evidence of this?

Why do people think that updating their drivers is magically a good thing because they're "new"? Do they not realize they can download old or simply not update their drivers if they want to retain performance?
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>>336801553
kek
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>>336803045
This is patches for a game, not driver updates

>% difference
>we have a huge % increase in games
% difference is the average between a set of data in a range, this is not the same as percentage increases or decreases
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>>336803060
>>336802850
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>>336802723
>3016
> still thinking its 2016
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>>336803060
>The gimping isn't real!
>Why are using the drivers that are gimping your card? You have an option to upgrade you know!

kek
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>>336803148
>Fallout 4 launch vs patch 1.3

>DRIVERS

holy shit you people are thicker than a bowl of oatmeal
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>>336802249
980
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>>336803145
The guy who did that did the first benchmark with the drivers available at launch time, and then with drivers available at 1.3 time.

Not only that, but the game patches added performance fixes to the game, therefore, it makes no sense that Nvidia would drop in performance. In comparison, all AMD cards got huge gains from these, and AMD didn't even launch drivers for the game IIRC.
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>>336803251
>>336803293
Keep ignoring it then, no one's stopping you.

Buy the new 1080 too, while we're at it. In a year or so, when the new cards get released and the 1080 starts getting gimped too, you'll feel what 970 and 980 users are about to feel too.
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>>336802249
Upgrade to a 390x, I made the switch and aside from issues with NVIDIA games I've had way better performance.
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>>336801816
At the bottom is the wattage
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>>336803220
>didn't post any evidence
>just spews the same old memes
>patches vs drivers

>>336803293
thats a multivariable test then, he didn't hold every other factor constant

he should have used both drivers then and now with the patch.

This is only indicitive of the patch for the game being garbage for Nvidia GPU's and theres no evidence that the driver caused it.

AMD didn't release a driver in the time between launch and 1.3 despite getting huge gains, this obviously isn't attributed to drivers since they're using the same driver regardless which means his nvidia experiement can't be attributed to drivers either
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>>336803414
>guys, HUUUUUUGE performance, 2x better than the TitanX!
>performance per watt graph
I feel bad for anyone that falls for this kind of marketing, kek. If you fall for it, you deserve it.
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>>336801258
does it 4k60fps
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>>336803293
>Not only that, but the game patches added performance fixes to the game, therefore, it makes no sense that Nvidia would drop in performance.
or you know, Bethesda being shit at game code writes another crappy patch like they did for skyrim
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>>336801574
here's your (You)
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>>336801997
I know you're retarded
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>>336803384
>keep ignoring a graph that has nothing to do with drivers despite the user updating his drivers and not keeping them constant
>the game patch means the nvidia driver was bad

if he truly extrapolated he'd show a before and after using new and old drivers for both patches along with extrapolating with driver with patch and old driver old patch
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>>336803449
Yea, you keep moving the goal posts kid. AMD gets huge gains with the same drivers, that's just because they were favored by the dev of a GameWorks title, Nvidia getting gimped is the dev's fault too, of course, releasing broken patches.

You don't want to see the truth, that's fine, but stop posting any time now.
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>>336801835
>less than console performance and
A 750ti is outperforming the PS4.
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>>336803630
>Yea, you keep moving the goal posts kid.
I never moved the goal posts. You literally have a graph that shows nothing to do with drivers

>they were favored by the dev of a game works title
Didn't know Fallout 4 had gameworks in it but regardless what does this have to do with drivers gimping cards? He should have had a graph showing the 1.3 patch comparing old and new drivers, but thats not what the graph illustrates at all.
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>>336802869
The real question you should be asking yourself is: at what resolution do I want to play my games?

If its 4K get the Titan or 980
If its 1080p get the R9 390
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>>336803060
google kepler gimping

tons of complaints of performance getting worse with each driver update
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>>336801864
Probably no reason to upgrade the PSU. There are plenty of calcs online that would be upgraded for the fresh cards.
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>>336803293
The Fallout 4 1.3 patch added Nvidia Flex Physx which only runs on Nvidia hardware, it also introduced a memory leak that has been already fixed.

You people need to stop worrying on behalf of other people, seriously, why is that everyone who complains about Nvidia are overly concerned AMD users who worry on behalf of people who buy Nvidia?
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>>336803580
no you are
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>>336803779
I want 1080p but I dont want AMD cards
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>>336802732
Actually, both the 1070 and 1080 are $50 higher than the 970 and 980 were at their own launch, pretty shitty of them.

Unless the 1070 has performance that justifies the price, new PC builds this year should be looking at 390X or 980's pricedrops IMO, which currently hit a really nice sweet spot being able to max all forseeable AAA vidya at 1080/1440. Nvidia is ricing the shit out of their new cards with 10gb of memory but its a waste of everyone's time since it won't actually run 4k games at 60fps.
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>>336803793
>google kepler gimping
literally nothing but fringe click bait articles, none of which haven't any comparisons of before and after patches proving with correlation that updating drivers gimps cards. Every article is just "Is Nvidia Gimping their Old cards?" or "Why is my 780 performing like shit in new games?" despite them having little to do with the actual drivers

You have a better chance at making the argument that Gameworks in games is gimping Nvidia cards. No where can I find a single lick of objective evidence making direct side by side comparisons of old drivers vs new drivers
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>Just sold my 980 Ti for $530 on ebay.

I am good to go.
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Oh boy, just think of all the gorgeous, worthwhile games that will be coming out on PC!

Better get those wallets out, boys! Graphics have barely changed in the past 8 years, and you want to be ready for when all the secret, good, high-end PC only titles everyone has been developing secretly come out!

Don't forget to get a gaming mouse and gaming keyboard, too!
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>>336802079
>>336803571
>jokes are now "trolling"
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>>336803389
without knowing what your previous card was that statement literally doesnt mean anything
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>>336801450
Well everything is great value compared to the titan x because the titan x is a fucking scam.
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>>336803993
>literally nothing but click bait

but there's some actual statistics and proof behind them

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1058295
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>>336804169
The titan was always a scam

back when the titan first came out the 690 also came out.

the 690 was like 100 dollars less than a titan (690 was 1000 dollars, titan was 1100+) and the 690 just out performed the titan in every spot purely because it was two fucking 680's on a single PCB
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>>336803961
>I dont want AMD cards
why not? they are better than nvidia these days.
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>>336801258
What's stopping me from getting a 980 TI?
It'll still hold well and still does hold well. Why waste money on this pascal shit.
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>>336804169
>>336804285
The Titan's a fucking workshop card
Those aren't made for video games
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ok this seems fairly standard for the 80 why bitching about the price exactly?
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>>336804448
>$600 to play MOBAs and PS4 ports
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>>336804391
>What stopping me from getting [a card that costs as much and doesn't perform as well]?
Nothing's stopping you, you just have to be dumb enough.
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>>336804273
These are all relative performance graphs comparing two generations

its first comparing 700 series to 600 then 700 series to 900

This still isn't old drivers vs new drivers. Its also trying to compare it to AMD GPU's which also have their own driver updates that obviously skew the performance results because this is a dumb "relative performance" chart instetad of actual performance in a game with a raw metric like FPS or usage load or anything else.

This is apples and oranges when compared to AMD

Literally show me the proof that new Nvidia drivers make old kepler cards perform worse

Compare a 770 on a series of drivers from then up to now with new drivers or what ever, simple metrics and simple results thats literally it.
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>>336804393
What does that even mean
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Semi related topic:
I'm a poorfag and bought the 750 TI 2GB a couple of months ago. When should I upgrade it and what should I upgrade it to?
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>>336803414
>RELATIVE GAMING PERFORMANCE
>5
>4
>3
>2
>1
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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>>336804476
I don't play either.
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>>336804393
>the original titan was advertised as a gaming GPU
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>>336804547
I think he meant workstation
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?

That's pretty standard. If you're poor just get the 60/70 card like the poorfag you are.
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>>336804557
how many fps'ses it gets at pong
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>>336804523
But it wont? are you gay or something anon? a TI will now cost around 200-300 mark. I won't be buying it for 600 bucks as it was fucking retail years ago.
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>>336804393
Well Nvidia seems to think otherwise.
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>>336804671
I have a 980ti, I'm just gonna wait for the 1080ti since that'll have the best performance jump over my 980ti compared to a 1080
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>>336804557
Numbers, and they are higher this gen than in the previous in some sort of way. Don't question it and hand over those $600, please.
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>>336804476
so if you dont play games that require it buy a 950ti and call it a year sheesh you act like this is the only option for a GPU
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>>336804645
I figured that's what he meant, but what are workstations even for?
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>>336804448

It's the death throes of AMDcucks
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The price will inevitably drop once Polaris drops, you'd have to be fucking retarded to buy this at launch, especially knowing Novidya's business practices.
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>>336804531
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/36hf2b/has_nvidia_officially_stopped_supporting_kepler/

>960 outpeforming the 770
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>>336804706
>a TI will now cost around 200-300 mark
Where the fuck? The 7XX series is still getting sold for as much as the 9XX. Why would it be different now?
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>>336801258
>pay $600 for a graphics card
>it dies 2 years later from light use
every time.
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>>336804556
You're a really dumb poorfag if you bought a entry tier card only to want to replace it several months later.
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>>336804757
the joke is that you need nothing better than PS4's GPU unless you fell for the 4k or 144hz meme.
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>>336801258
That's not a bad baseline price at all, considering the going prices for other x80 cards.
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>>336804838
yea dude the 960 is a rebranded 760 with a huge overclock

Thats pretty expected, the 770 out performed the 680 too and. the 970 out performed the 780
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>>336804875
>implying the 80s dont have a 3 year warrenty


this is your own fault
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>used to be concerned that 1440p steady 60fps was unattainable
I'm pretty excited to see the benchmarks.
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PC IS DEAD ABANDON SHIP
Last PC exclusivity will be autism simulators (AKA RTS/total war)
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>>336801574
i work at sony and our most recent benchmarks maxed out at around 3,600 graphics. we are working on optimization to squeeze out 400 more
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>>336801641
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>>336804987
780ti is also losing to the 960 4gb
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>>336804557
How hard youll get circlejerked at r/pcmasterrace
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>>336801258
All I have is a Geforce GT610.
I'll grab fucking anything at this point.
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>>336805137
Nah Lawbreakers is coming out soon and it looks fun as fuck.
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TITAN X OWNERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>336804995
That's been attainable awhile now, just not able to be maintained for long--meaning an upgrade would be needed very soon to keep up. I'm still waiting for steady 60fps on a 3 monitor 1440p setup
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>>336805196
How fucking broken and stupid do you have to be to buy GT X40 and below cards?
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>>336801258
>Neo-/v/ doesn't even recognize this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
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>>336805310
If someone has a Titan X, then they probably have enough money to afford a new card desu
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>>336805186
No, which benchmark in that reddit thread says that? all 4 of them show the 780ti beating the shit out of the 960
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>>336802446
They really aren't that bad. there's the odd hitch but it's a far cry from the AMD experience

T. multi pc owner

ps windows 10 is the worst meme and i'm sorry you fell for the ruse cruise
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>>336801470
PS4k, the 1080 is the first of the new generation and those are always a scam, wait until the next wave or get a PS4k which has good enough power to run most new games at 1080p and 50-60fps and to be honest, PC gaming has gone to shit nowadays with all the paid mods and unoptimized games, shit drivers etc ... I'm really considering selling my 980ti and wait for the next 2 generations of cards and get myself a ps4k
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>>336805351
For a somewhat reasonable price, I mean.
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>>336805376
>being so new, that he thinks people are ignoring the reference because they're unaware of it
Dear lord I have to leave
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I'm still waiting on Polaris. AMD said they're looking to release a more mainstream card that will bring VR to the masses so if we get something cheaper than the 1070 and more powerful than the Furyx or 390x i'll be happy as a clam with that.
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>>336805425
They really are bad though

T. PC builder since the Riva and Rage GPU days
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>>336805282
t. Cliff Bleszinski
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>>336805518
Well, if that lets you sleep at night then carry on
You know that's not the case
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>>336805137

Anything more complicated than a QTE is an autism simulator to consolefags
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>>336801258
That's not a bad price though
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>>336805598
We you kind of got me there. I am a fan of his games.
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>>336805146
Nigga you don't even know what you are talking about.

"Graphics" is just a percentile average of the visible pixelation of data.

Therefore we should refer 3,600 graphics as PS4 has no games
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>founders edition for a video card

the marketing judaism is out of control
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>>336805580
I respect your opinion anon, guess I've just had a different experience
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So was all that HBM2 talk a ruse?
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So the "Founders Edition" is just their cooler?
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>>336806002
Yeah. Even AMD won't use it for their 5XX.
We'll have to wait yet another year.
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>>336801258
Oh boy can't wait to upgrade my GPU yearly just to play console ports and games from 10 years ago.
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>>336806076
*for their 4XX
Oops.
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>>336805441
> All the paid mods
There are no more paid mods for any games you could possibly want to play.
> Unoptimized games
Maybe if retards like you stopped spreading bullshit there would be more optimization on PC.
> Good enough power to run most new games at 1080p and 50-60fps
Yeah, with its amazing 2.1GHz processor up from 1.6GHz
> Shit drivers
FFS you really expect your 460 to be properly supported in 2016
> 980ti
Nice falseflag. You don't own a 980ti.
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>>336804768
something something rendering
HQ rendering needs a good GPU.
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>>336801835
wew lad, got any sources for that shit?
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>>336801258
PC goes through iterations too, they just mask it well. Every now and then we'll get a jump in tech that requires more power under the hood. Between those jumps you are just catching up with little gains.

So right now going for a spanking new card is expensive for miniscule gains unless you really want VR. There is no fancy new toys to turn on in games to justify a card like that over one half the price (or less). I always wait until that point to upgrade. Makes my rig last a lot longer between.
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>Buying Nvidia after housefires, woodscrews, 3.5gb, goyworks, and geforce experience
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>>336801574
I guess the burger eaters are up.

time to leave, see you tomorrow /v/
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>>336805676

Friendly reminder strategy is the ultimate retarded genre

Fps requires fast reflexion and reflex
FG required good alaysis

But strategy games is just grinding like a retard
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if you havnt been part of the intel CPU amd GPU master race for the last 5 years i dont know what to say

sort your lives out lads
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>>336806473
>I am a literal faggot and have no actual arguments so I'll just say some meme words and maybe they'll leave me alone
ebin xD
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>>336806673
my argument is that you deserved to get cucked if you buy from a bad rep company like nvidia.
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>>336805441
Why would you buy a 980ti over 390x or 970, its going to get shit frames at 2500x1600 as a single card and its a waste of money for 1080x1920, I'm so confused.
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>>336802824
http://www.bytemedev.com/the-gtx-780-ti-sli-end-of-life-driver-performance-analysis/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E

there's evidence proving it isn't true. the 7xx series cards are just as good now as they were 2 years ago. it's just maxwell has gained a lot of performance.
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>>336806813
I'm sure your 30 fps console is way better :^)
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>>336805794
lmao
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1070 is better than a 980ti and costs less
1080 is better than a titan-x and costs less

what exactly is the issue here?
just desperate to shit out a new epic maymay?

regardless, no one should buy these cards. you should wait until q4 this year or q1-2 next year for the HBM2 cards that can actually do 4k like JEWvidia said Pascal would. i think they're calling them Tesla or something.
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tfw the wait is finally over
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Worth upgrading from a 4GB GTX960?
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> Current year
> Believing nvidia shilling
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>>336801258
>mfw i just bought the 980 TI card just two days ago.

fuck my life, am far behind once again
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>>336807057
It depends what you're upgrading from. I don't think we'll see the full Pascal card until next year so it feels like a good time to upgrade my aging 770.
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>>336807107
no, wait for cards with hbm.
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>>336807226
>I don't think we'll see the full Pascal card until next year so it feels like a good time to upgrade my aging 770.
then upgrade to the 980ti when the price drops.

do not buy these cards. there's nothing really wrong with them like 3.5 or woodscrews, but Pascal was supposed to be HBM2 and these are GDDR5X.
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>>336807157
Can't you just get a refund?
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>>336807057
>HBM
>worth a shit anytime soon

GDDR is far better atm and will be for the foreseeable future
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FPS benchmarks for games when
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So this is why Dark Souls III was unoptimized as fuck
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>>336807107
Probably. I have a 760 and it seems like almost anything would be an upgrade.

I'd honestly wait on reviews from both nvidia and AMD see what's a better deal. I'll probably stick with Nvidia since i like a lot of their features.

But AMD has always been a more economical choice.
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Are these new cards from AMD and NVIDIA require a new mobo or something? I might aswell wait for the 390/970 to lower in price. I always play game on low except for maybe textures. I'm also going to wait for that PS4K and see what happens.
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>>336807394
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But will it run Ridge Racer?
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I just want 1070 benches.

If it's within 95% performance of the 980 TI I'll get it.
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>>336807226
We won't see the full Pascal until after Vega comes out and yeah that will probably be in about 8 months.
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>>336807394
>GDDR is far better atm and will be for the foreseeable future
The literal only advantage of GDDR5(X) compared to HBM2 is the price and the fact that HBM2 isn't ready yet
HBM2 is expensive as fuck but come at a low as fuck electricity use and very small space usage
Both of these are disgustingly bad when you go with GDDR5X which eats a ton of electricity and space when you go full out
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>>336807407

Dark souls 3 ran fantastic on a range of hardware for a AAA game.

Why all you faggots with toasters resort to unfounded claims about being unoptimised.
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Dunno if I'll wait for the 1080ti. My 980ti runs so hot it's going to burn out before that thing releases. The 1080 runs way cooler; and runs a little better. Might be good for my mATX case.
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whens the new AMD cards coming out?
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>>336807662
980 4670k 850 pro
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>>336807637
yeah and it works and exists right now

the tradeoff is worth it when you can get 8gb for cheap and HBM can't compete on price or capacity
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>>336803414
That pic is hilarious.
>relative gaming performance, from 1 to 5
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ok niggers. i still have 6870 + Phenom II X4 965. rolling with it since like 2009.

question is. should i go for budget build of r9 390 + i5 6600k now. or will the prices drop soon?
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>>336807619
Good.
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>>336807662
>works for me :)
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>>336807662
Because it runs worse than Witcher 3 while looking worse. It's completely unoptimized.
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>>336807386
no way i waited like a year to save my money for this card and am going to used it. my old card was a GT 560 card, nah am going to used my new 980 finally to play dark souls 3 on pc. but it pisses me the fuck off that once i finally get something a fucking newer version pops out of fucking nowhere. every fucking time
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>>336807662
it ran well on nvidia cards. ran like trash on amd cards even though amdrones still go on about consoles helping their graphics cards.
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Is there any difference in performance from a founders edition and a regular edition card?
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>>336807619
>that webm
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>>336807958
I don't know, maybe it's a factory watercooled version.
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>>336807958
Probably just a shiny metal cooling case you won't see because it's in your computer and some nifty little things from nvidia like a felt carrying bag with their logo on it for whatever reason.
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I'm ready to build another computer but I really don't want to play anything until GOTY Deus Ex comes our in August. Should I wait till that month to build it or is there no point?
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>>336807882
>>336807662
I can run Dark Souls II at 60 FPS with everything on max, but 3 is literally unplayable (as in, I get 0 fucking frames everytime I move the camera) at 800x600 with everything on low
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>>336807157
Do you live under a rock? Nvidia has been saying there is going to be an announcement for the past few weeks.
Plus the leaked cases for the 1070 & 1080 should of been a dead giveaway to save your money.
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>>336802675
They had to recently recall a driver that was bricking the cards. What does it in for me is that they release drivers to gimp their older cards so you'll be more likely to upgrade. That and they pay cash to get games optimized for their cards instead of letting their cards actually shine for the quality they are. I just can't in good faith do business with them after all of the shit they've pulled.
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play station 3 will retail for 599USD
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>>336801258
Should I return my 980ti and get the 1080?
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>>336807878
Are you mentally disabled? Of course better cards are going to come out.
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Why hasn't AMD released any info about their new cards? Price, release date, fucking name? Have they just given up?
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>>336807057
1070 and 1080 are more powerful than a Titan X if the specs are anything to go by.
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>>336808094
THAT'S BECAUSE DS2 WAS AN XBOX 360 PORT AND DS3 IS A PS4 PORT

WOW FUCKING WEIRD RIGHT?
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>>336804860
>7xx is still getting sold
Where? It's not even produced anymore.
You literally have to buy them used.
Once the 1xxx series hits the 980ti will drop down to $300 or something.
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>>336808094
That's because DS2 has awful gutted lighting, it looks orders of magnitude worse than what they showed for e3. It only ran well for you because it was designed to look like shit.
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>>336808609
>Once the 1xxx series hits the 980ti will drop down to $300 or something.

This never happens. Prices stay high to gouge SLI users.
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>>336807157
>1 year ago
>nvidia start hinting about their next line of GPUs
I'd understand if you bought it one year ago but now? Do people not fucking do research before buying shit for $7-800?
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>>336808758
>shitposting this hard.
When a new card line hits the old one drops in price.
It has happened with every single card.
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>>336808873
[citation needed]
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>>336807407
>ds3
>unoptimized
Maybe if you have a fucking toaster rig.
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>mfw the price of top of the line 900 series dropz

perfect time to upgrade from my 760
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>>336808529
>>336808629
Of course 3 will run worse, but the graphics are not good enough to justify such a huge drop in perfomance
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What's the cheapest GPU i can get for a smooth 60fps in 1080p ?
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>>336808965
Are you retarded?
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>>336808873

Yes, but not by fucking half, especially a flagship card like the 980ti.

It will probably drop to 450 at the lowest, and then just get phased out, used ones will probably be $300
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>>336808507
It's polaris, no release date but some info leaked.

furyx successor is going to have like 16 gb of HBM2 and R9 490x is going to have like 8gb gddr5 if this leaked info is correct.
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>>336808978
see >>336807747
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>>336809008
for what game retard?
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>>336808507
Because they're targeting the low-end and mid-range audience with the Polaris and have nothing to put up against the 1070 and the 1080 until Vega drops in very late 2016/early 2017. With the hype shitstorm in full effect over Nvidia's new high-end flagship cards, there's absolutely no way AMD could steal any of their thunder with a mainstream offering. It could be a fucking incredible card with amazing bang for your back, no high-end = no hype. Thus, they're content to take their time.

Maybe, just maybe, the better Polaris 10 (possible 480X) could reach within a kicking distance of the 1070 in some games (AMD backed, AMD-biased DX12/Vulkan titles), but with the leaked CU counts and the die size, it's probably not even intended to compete.
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>>336801258
>giving my old card to a buddy
>was planning on upgrading to a 980ti
>now this
ho
lee
shit
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>>336801258
My gtx 980 is sufficient for now. Is this card mainly for vr?
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>>336809331
And 4k, that's why I'm upgrading.
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is the ATI series cards also coming out this summer?
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>>336809405
>>336809331
it will do VR but not 4k.
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>>336809008
A 970 should cover most recent games. Maybe wait for the 1070 though.
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>>336809209
I imagine Polaris will be pegged to console performance, which might mean very good performance at a very low cost, even if they can't directly compete with Nvidia's $400+ enthuiast cards (which is basically the only thing Nvidia made these days).
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If 1070 is somewhat faster than a 980ti, it would be smart to sell my current 970 and upgrade ye? Or even to 1080
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>>336807694
Polaris are due out this summer, likely before any of the Nvidia cards are actually available. However they're mid-range cards with Polaris 11 seemingly aimed at the 950 and Polaris 10 as the replacement for the 390 / 970, there have been suggestions it would deliver 980 level performance but I'm not sure I trust those.

Vega, AMD's new high end cards aren't due till the end of the year or even early next year and when they arrive you know Nvidia will drop an even higher performance version.
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>>336809147
Probably lower than 450. But yeah, $300 is stretching it.
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>>336809069
Using camelcamelcamel, prices for the GTX 780 dropped from about $650 to $550 when the 980 was announced, with rare sales around $400 after that.
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>>336802079
>>336802460
>>336803571
>>336805149
>>336806514
>/v/ is so retarded they respond to bait every time
Yiu are why this board is shit
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>>336809504
I figured so. Vr isn't to that point were it excites me but the card seems good for allowing devs to get to that point.
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>>336809008
I'd buy a second-hand 970 once people start upgrading to the 1070 or wait for Polaris.

Then again, I kind of expect 970s to start becoming useless sooner rather than later given they're short of VRAM, while the consoles have fucking 8gb. The VRAM issue is why "bad" console ports have started appearing.
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>assemble new pc without GPU
>400W power

will it be enough for 1080?
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How much will the 970 and 980 drop in price?
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>>336801258

Jesus, What relative Intel CPU would you need to not bottle-neck this type of card anyways. Ppl would be buying this shit and not really be able to properly utilize it.
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>>336801258

You do know that this will make older cards like the 980 ti drop right? If anything that's good.

I mean, is not as if every time a new card comes out all other cards become trash. Old cards drop prices and are still pretty good. 980 was a monster like what? half a year ago?
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>>336809773
They won't. They're going to stop manufacturing them and Nvidia policy is to push up card prices.
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>>336809569
That might be overkill man, I'm running a 980Ti and get 60FPS on Ultra on literally anything I want to play. I think these high-end cards are for the 4K market, but I'd wait a couple more years til 4K is the standard.
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I'll do a 1080 and walk away
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>>336809504
It's still a big improvement for non-VR stuff, but I'll wait for actual bench instead of nvidia's slides.
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>>336809761

unless you have an i3 and low voltage ram, enjoy your brownouts
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>>336806278
No my man, if you want a fucking rendering machine you go for Quadro series.

Titan is just "razer" of VGAs.
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>>336801641
Have people here become so sensitive that even obvious jokes are bait now?
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>>336809761
kek who the fuck has a 400w power supply in 2016? did you get it free in a packet of shreddies?
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>>336802446
When retards actually think AMD has better drivers than Nvidia
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>>336809761
>buying a 400W PSU
Why? A decent 650W would set you back by 80 bucks or something.
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>>336809881
kek
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I wouldn't have any problems with my 3820k if I got the 1070 right? I already have good enough ram and psu otherwise.
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>$599 for the gimped no-HBM2 cards
wew
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>>336809779
Next-gen APIs of the sort that you'll need to get full speed performance out of one of these cards are less dependent on single thread performance and bottleneck more based on how many threads your CPU has to throw at draw calls.

So i5s which are restricted to 4 threads will bottleneck. You'll want at least a 8 thread CPU like an i7. AMD have already said that they won't sell a Zen CPU that is only 4 cores / 8 threads so don't be surprised if in a few years 8 core / 16 thread is the standard expected for gaming.
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