>599 US DOLLARS
599 US DOLLARS
>599 US DOLLARS
599 US DOLLARS
>599 US DOLLARS
599 US DOLLARS
I might get it, I'm tired of crossfiring my 290s and want a single card.
It's time for an upgrade.
>founders edition
What does this even mean?
>>336801258
it's not that bad if you compare it to titan x. paying only $600 for more than $1000 of performance
Alright /v/, help me choose wisely. Pick one:
GTX 1080p
PS4k
>>336801258
$1000 DOLLARYDOOS
>>336801445
that they found enough retards that'll buy anything they release- no matter the cost.
lol pc master race only 1080? sony will have the ps4k soon which can do 4000 graphics.
so much for your $1000 graphics cards.
>>336801258
>More power than a TItan X
>1070 will be equivalent to the TItan X
So how much of a lie is this
>>336801470
PS4k I mean it says 4k in the title so it must be 4k, GTX 1080 only does 1080p
>>336801258
I'll step up to it. thanks evga, never let me down.
>tfw just bought 960
>tfw step up to 1080 or 1070
prolly 1080, then ill get a better monitor a month later
>>336801258
>PCucks will defend this
can it play games in 4k? Cause 4Im not upgrading until I can play in 4k. for 200$ top.
>>336801710
See you in 5 years
How much power does these new graphic cards need? I have a 650W Corsair. Is that good enough?
>8GB
>will come as 3.5 GB
>costs more than a modern console
>will still have less than console performance and constant crashing
>even if this is true and somehow the light outside the modern shit gpu industry pc has no games to use this thing on
>>336801258
I just built a computer w/ i7-6700 non-k.
16 gb ram
620w psu
Old 750Ti card borrowed.
Thinking about upgrading psu to 850 fully modular and maaaaaybe a 1070?
Guess I'm in the waiting game for amd and future benchmarking. I'll drop more money in June
Bets on what fuck-up will happen?
>Overheating
>BSOD
>3.5
>Woodscrews
>Fire upon 4k gaming
>>336801641
Dont know if bait or just stupid
>>336801574
>this whole post
>>336801553
Just imagine AMD trying to pull this off...
>Need a new graphics card since my GTX 660 is dying
>This gets announced
But I'm not shelling out that much for a card.
What should I upgrade to?
>2016
>not knowing master race is a meme used by nvidia/AMD paid shills
>still get cucked into buying new graphics card the same way apple drones buy their iphones.
>>336801979
NVIDIA has really got their drivers game together, it would be impossible for the current team to fuck up as much as their old twenty Asians in a room.
I'm certain they're going to pull someform of a 3.5 again. If ti's going to have 'Dedicated space,'that only lets you use 7 of the 8 or if it'll pull a 390x and fuck up the encoding so only brand new games realize you have 8gbs and not 4.
>>336801916
>pcuck is so fucking mad they just post xD because they couldnt disprove me
>>336802363
Nvidia drivers are still shit lately, especially on Windows 10. Gimping old cards, compatability issues with older games, etc.
>>336801258
The best thing about this announcement, is knowing that 970 to 980ti cucks will finally start getting their shit gimped beyond belief so much that they'll be forced to shell out another 600$ or play new games at 1024x800 with 20 FPS.
Nvidiots always never saw it coming, despite it happening twice already. Maybe they'll learn one day, but probably not. Nvidia's marketing team is top tier, gotta give it to them.
>>336801641
Delicious post +1
What's the point of buying a $600 graphics card when the newest games on PC are just console games?
>buying nvidia after they fucked kepler users and the 3.5GB fiasco
>>336802446
NVIDIA drivers are still not as bad as they used to be, I don't know what their current state is because after 3.5 I switched to AMD, but in the mid 00's it was nothing but constant shit updates that couldn't run anything and left you with a flammable brick that refused to play anything over low.
>>336802460
>2016
>still think fish hooks are baits
>>336801258
thats the same price point as the 980 was
>>336802446
>gimping old cards
why do people sitll spew this dumb conspiracy despite there being literally no evidence for it?
>>336802824
I know, right?
I have a 650ti
What should I upgrade to?
>>336802869
Why should you even upgrade?
>>336802869
Titan x
>>336802850
>percentage difference
on what?
>launch vs 1.3
is this fallout launch vs 1.3 patch?
>>336802824
gimping old cards is true though, gtx 700 series is suffering hard from it. benchmarks and games are running worse on latest drivers than they did on last years drivers.
>>336802586
>retards
just like buying 300€ consoles for a single game
>>336802869
Wait for AMD to unveil the first Polaris chips. 1070 and 1080 are supposed to be highend enthusiast shit, while the first Polaris chips will be the 470 and 480, mid-end stuff. Apparently the 480 should have performance close to the 390, while being a much smaller and more efficient chip than both the 1070 and 1080. Reveal should be in a few weeks, at Computex apparently. There's no reason not to wait at this point.
>>336802869
1070 or 1060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
>>336802943
FPS Percentage difference. And yes, difference compared to launch vs 1.3 patch.
Not only that, there's loads of reports of people running games like shit on the latest patches (using 700 series) that downgrade to older patches and get upwards of 30-40% FPS increases in newer games. Go figure.
>>336802952
>gimping old cards is true though
then why hasn't anyone posted any tangible evidence?
>benchmark games are running worse and worse on new drivers
why hasn't anyone posted any evidence of this?
Why do people think that updating their drivers is magically a good thing because they're "new"? Do they not realize they can download old or simply not update their drivers if they want to retain performance?
>>336801553
kek
>>336803045
This is patches for a game, not driver updates
>% difference
>we have a huge % increase in games
% difference is the average between a set of data in a range, this is not the same as percentage increases or decreases
>>336802723
>3016
> still thinking its 2016
>>336803060
>The gimping isn't real!
>Why are using the drivers that are gimping your card? You have an option to upgrade you know!
kek
>>336803148
>Fallout 4 launch vs patch 1.3
>DRIVERS
holy shit you people are thicker than a bowl of oatmeal
>>336802249
980
>>336803145
The guy who did that did the first benchmark with the drivers available at launch time, and then with drivers available at 1.3 time.
Not only that, but the game patches added performance fixes to the game, therefore, it makes no sense that Nvidia would drop in performance. In comparison, all AMD cards got huge gains from these, and AMD didn't even launch drivers for the game IIRC.
>>336803251
>>336803293
Keep ignoring it then, no one's stopping you.
Buy the new 1080 too, while we're at it. In a year or so, when the new cards get released and the 1080 starts getting gimped too, you'll feel what 970 and 980 users are about to feel too.
>>336802249
Upgrade to a 390x, I made the switch and aside from issues with NVIDIA games I've had way better performance.
>>336801816
At the bottom is the wattage
>>336803220
>didn't post any evidence
>just spews the same old memes
>patches vs drivers
>>336803293
thats a multivariable test then, he didn't hold every other factor constant
he should have used both drivers then and now with the patch.
This is only indicitive of the patch for the game being garbage for Nvidia GPU's and theres no evidence that the driver caused it.
AMD didn't release a driver in the time between launch and 1.3 despite getting huge gains, this obviously isn't attributed to drivers since they're using the same driver regardless which means his nvidia experiement can't be attributed to drivers either
>>336803414
>guys, HUUUUUUGE performance, 2x better than the TitanX!
>performance per watt graph
I feel bad for anyone that falls for this kind of marketing, kek. If you fall for it, you deserve it.
>>336801258
does it 4k60fps
>>336803293
>Not only that, but the game patches added performance fixes to the game, therefore, it makes no sense that Nvidia would drop in performance.
or you know, Bethesda being shit at game code writes another crappy patch like they did for skyrim
>>336801574
here's your (You)
>>336801997
I know you're retarded
>>336803384
>keep ignoring a graph that has nothing to do with drivers despite the user updating his drivers and not keeping them constant
>the game patch means the nvidia driver was bad
if he truly extrapolated he'd show a before and after using new and old drivers for both patches along with extrapolating with driver with patch and old driver old patch
>>336803449
Yea, you keep moving the goal posts kid. AMD gets huge gains with the same drivers, that's just because they were favored by the dev of a GameWorks title, Nvidia getting gimped is the dev's fault too, of course, releasing broken patches.
You don't want to see the truth, that's fine, but stop posting any time now.
>>336801835
>less than console performance and
A 750ti is outperforming the PS4.
>>336803630
>Yea, you keep moving the goal posts kid.
I never moved the goal posts. You literally have a graph that shows nothing to do with drivers
>they were favored by the dev of a game works title
Didn't know Fallout 4 had gameworks in it but regardless what does this have to do with drivers gimping cards? He should have had a graph showing the 1.3 patch comparing old and new drivers, but thats not what the graph illustrates at all.
>>336802869
The real question you should be asking yourself is: at what resolution do I want to play my games?
If its 4K get the Titan or 980
If its 1080p get the R9 390
>>336803060
google kepler gimping
tons of complaints of performance getting worse with each driver update
>>336801864
Probably no reason to upgrade the PSU. There are plenty of calcs online that would be upgraded for the fresh cards.
>>336803293
The Fallout 4 1.3 patch added Nvidia Flex Physx which only runs on Nvidia hardware, it also introduced a memory leak that has been already fixed.
You people need to stop worrying on behalf of other people, seriously, why is that everyone who complains about Nvidia are overly concerned AMD users who worry on behalf of people who buy Nvidia?
>>336803580
no you are
>>336803779
I want 1080p but I dont want AMD cards
>>336802732
Actually, both the 1070 and 1080 are $50 higher than the 970 and 980 were at their own launch, pretty shitty of them.
Unless the 1070 has performance that justifies the price, new PC builds this year should be looking at 390X or 980's pricedrops IMO, which currently hit a really nice sweet spot being able to max all forseeable AAA vidya at 1080/1440. Nvidia is ricing the shit out of their new cards with 10gb of memory but its a waste of everyone's time since it won't actually run 4k games at 60fps.
>>336803793
>google kepler gimping
literally nothing but fringe click bait articles, none of which haven't any comparisons of before and after patches proving with correlation that updating drivers gimps cards. Every article is just "Is Nvidia Gimping their Old cards?" or "Why is my 780 performing like shit in new games?" despite them having little to do with the actual drivers
You have a better chance at making the argument that Gameworks in games is gimping Nvidia cards. No where can I find a single lick of objective evidence making direct side by side comparisons of old drivers vs new drivers
>Just sold my 980 Ti for $530 on ebay.
I am good to go.
Oh boy, just think of all the gorgeous, worthwhile games that will be coming out on PC!
Better get those wallets out, boys! Graphics have barely changed in the past 8 years, and you want to be ready for when all the secret, good, high-end PC only titles everyone has been developing secretly come out!
Don't forget to get a gaming mouse and gaming keyboard, too!
>>336802079
>>336803571
>jokes are now "trolling"
>>336803389
without knowing what your previous card was that statement literally doesnt mean anything
>>336801450
Well everything is great value compared to the titan x because the titan x is a fucking scam.
>>336803993
>literally nothing but click bait
but there's some actual statistics and proof behind them
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1058295
>>336804169
The titan was always a scam
back when the titan first came out the 690 also came out.
the 690 was like 100 dollars less than a titan (690 was 1000 dollars, titan was 1100+) and the 690 just out performed the titan in every spot purely because it was two fucking 680's on a single PCB
>>336803961
>I dont want AMD cards
why not? they are better than nvidia these days.
>>336801258
What's stopping me from getting a 980 TI?
It'll still hold well and still does hold well. Why waste money on this pascal shit.
>>336804169
>>336804285
The Titan's a fucking workshop card
Those aren't made for video games
ok this seems fairly standard for the 80 why bitching about the price exactly?
>>336804448
>$600 to play MOBAs and PS4 ports
>>336804391
>What stopping me from getting [a card that costs as much and doesn't perform as well]?
Nothing's stopping you, you just have to be dumb enough.
>>336804273
These are all relative performance graphs comparing two generations
its first comparing 700 series to 600 then 700 series to 900
This still isn't old drivers vs new drivers. Its also trying to compare it to AMD GPU's which also have their own driver updates that obviously skew the performance results because this is a dumb "relative performance" chart instetad of actual performance in a game with a raw metric like FPS or usage load or anything else.
This is apples and oranges when compared to AMD
Literally show me the proof that new Nvidia drivers make old kepler cards perform worse
Compare a 770 on a series of drivers from then up to now with new drivers or what ever, simple metrics and simple results thats literally it.
>>336804393
What does that even mean
Semi related topic:
I'm a poorfag and bought the 750 TI 2GB a couple of months ago. When should I upgrade it and what should I upgrade it to?
>>336803414
>RELATIVE GAMING PERFORMANCE
>5
>4
>3
>2
>1
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>>336804476
I don't play either.
>>336804393
>the original titan was advertised as a gaming GPU
>>336804547
I think he meant workstation
?
That's pretty standard. If you're poor just get the 60/70 card like the poorfag you are.
>>336804557
how many fps'ses it gets at pong
>>336804523
But it wont? are you gay or something anon? a TI will now cost around 200-300 mark. I won't be buying it for 600 bucks as it was fucking retail years ago.
>>336804393
Well Nvidia seems to think otherwise.
>>336804671
I have a 980ti, I'm just gonna wait for the 1080ti since that'll have the best performance jump over my 980ti compared to a 1080
>>336804557
Numbers, and they are higher this gen than in the previous in some sort of way. Don't question it and hand over those $600, please.
>>336804476
so if you dont play games that require it buy a 950ti and call it a year sheesh you act like this is the only option for a GPU
>>336804645
I figured that's what he meant, but what are workstations even for?
>>336804448
It's the death throes of AMDcucks
The price will inevitably drop once Polaris drops, you'd have to be fucking retarded to buy this at launch, especially knowing Novidya's business practices.
>>336804531
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/36hf2b/has_nvidia_officially_stopped_supporting_kepler/
>960 outpeforming the 770
>>336804706
>a TI will now cost around 200-300 mark
Where the fuck? The 7XX series is still getting sold for as much as the 9XX. Why would it be different now?
>>336801258
>pay $600 for a graphics card
>it dies 2 years later from light use
every time.
>>336804556
You're a really dumb poorfag if you bought a entry tier card only to want to replace it several months later.
>>336804757
the joke is that you need nothing better than PS4's GPU unless you fell for the 4k or 144hz meme.
>>336801258
That's not a bad baseline price at all, considering the going prices for other x80 cards.
>>336804838
yea dude the 960 is a rebranded 760 with a huge overclock
Thats pretty expected, the 770 out performed the 680 too and. the 970 out performed the 780
>>336804875
>implying the 80s dont have a 3 year warrenty
this is your own fault
>used to be concerned that 1440p steady 60fps was unattainable
I'm pretty excited to see the benchmarks.
PC IS DEAD ABANDON SHIP
Last PC exclusivity will be autism simulators (AKA RTS/total war)
>>336801574
i work at sony and our most recent benchmarks maxed out at around 3,600 graphics. we are working on optimization to squeeze out 400 more
>>336804987
780ti is also losing to the 960 4gb
>>336804557
How hard youll get circlejerked at r/pcmasterrace
>>336801258
All I have is a Geforce GT610.
I'll grab fucking anything at this point.
>>336805137
Nah Lawbreakers is coming out soon and it looks fun as fuck.
TITAN X OWNERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>336804995
That's been attainable awhile now, just not able to be maintained for long--meaning an upgrade would be needed very soon to keep up. I'm still waiting for steady 60fps on a 3 monitor 1440p setup
>>336805196
How fucking broken and stupid do you have to be to buy GT X40 and below cards?
>>336801258
>Neo-/v/ doesn't even recognize this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
>>336805310
If someone has a Titan X, then they probably have enough money to afford a new card desu
>>336805186
No, which benchmark in that reddit thread says that? all 4 of them show the 780ti beating the shit out of the 960
>>336802446
They really aren't that bad. there's the odd hitch but it's a far cry from the AMD experience
T. multi pc owner
ps windows 10 is the worst meme and i'm sorry you fell for the ruse cruise
>>336801470
PS4k, the 1080 is the first of the new generation and those are always a scam, wait until the next wave or get a PS4k which has good enough power to run most new games at 1080p and 50-60fps and to be honest, PC gaming has gone to shit nowadays with all the paid mods and unoptimized games, shit drivers etc ... I'm really considering selling my 980ti and wait for the next 2 generations of cards and get myself a ps4k
>>336805351
For a somewhat reasonable price, I mean.
>>336805376
>being so new, that he thinks people are ignoring the reference because they're unaware of it
Dear lord I have to leave
I'm still waiting on Polaris. AMD said they're looking to release a more mainstream card that will bring VR to the masses so if we get something cheaper than the 1070 and more powerful than the Furyx or 390x i'll be happy as a clam with that.
>>336805425
They really are bad though
T. PC builder since the Riva and Rage GPU days
>>336805282
t. Cliff Bleszinski
>>336805518
Well, if that lets you sleep at night then carry onYou know that's not the case
>>336805137
Anything more complicated than a QTE is an autism simulator to consolefags
>>336801258
That's not a bad price though
>>336805598
We you kind of got me there. I am a fan of his games.
>>336805146
Nigga you don't even know what you are talking about.
"Graphics" is just a percentile average of the visible pixelation of data.
Therefore we should refer 3,600 graphics asPS4 has no games
>founders edition for a video card
the marketing judaism is out of control
>>336805580
I respect your opinion anon, guess I've just had a different experience
So was all that HBM2 talk a ruse?
So the "Founders Edition" is just their cooler?
>>336806002
Yeah. Even AMD won't use it for their 5XX.
We'll have to wait yet another year.
>>336801258
Oh boy can't wait to upgrade my GPU yearly just to play console ports and games from 10 years ago.
>>336806076
*for their 4XX
Oops.
>>336805441
> All the paid mods
There are no more paid mods for any games you could possibly want to play.
> Unoptimized games
Maybe if retards like you stopped spreading bullshit there would be more optimization on PC.
> Good enough power to run most new games at 1080p and 50-60fps
Yeah, with its amazing 2.1GHz processor up from 1.6GHz
> Shit drivers
FFS you really expect your 460 to be properly supported in 2016
> 980ti
Nice falseflag. You don't own a 980ti.
>>336804768
something something rendering
HQ rendering needs a good GPU.
>>336801835
wew lad, got any sources for that shit?
>>336801258
PC goes through iterations too, they just mask it well. Every now and then we'll get a jump in tech that requires more power under the hood. Between those jumps you are just catching up with little gains.
So right now going for a spanking new card is expensive for miniscule gains unless you really want VR. There is no fancy new toys to turn on in games to justify a card like that over one half the price (or less). I always wait until that point to upgrade. Makes my rig last a lot longer between.
>Buying Nvidia after housefires, woodscrews, 3.5gb, goyworks, and geforce experience
>>336801574
I guess the burger eaters are up.
time to leave, see you tomorrow /v/
>>336805676
Friendly reminder strategy is the ultimate retarded genre
Fps requires fast reflexion and reflex
FG required good alaysis
But strategy games is just grinding like a retard
if you havnt been part of the intel CPU amd GPU master race for the last 5 years i dont know what to say
sort your lives out lads
>>336806473
>I am a literal faggot and have no actual arguments so I'll just say some meme words and maybe they'll leave me alone
ebin xD
>>336806673
my argument is that you deserved to get cucked if you buy from a bad rep company like nvidia.
>>336805441
Why would you buy a 980ti over 390x or 970, its going to get shit frames at 2500x1600 as a single card and its a waste of money for 1080x1920, I'm so confused.
>>336802824
http://www.bytemedev.com/the-gtx-780-ti-sli-end-of-life-driver-performance-analysis/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E
there's evidence proving it isn't true. the 7xx series cards are just as good now as they were 2 years ago. it's just maxwell has gained a lot of performance.
>>336806813
I'm sure your 30 fps console is way better :^)
>>336805794
lmao
1070 is better than a 980ti and costs less
1080 is better than a titan-x and costs less
what exactly is the issue here?
just desperate to shit out a new epic maymay?
regardless, no one should buy these cards. you should wait until q4 this year or q1-2 next year for the HBM2 cards that can actually do 4k like JEWvidia said Pascal would. i think they're calling them Tesla or something.
tfw the wait is finally over
Worth upgrading from a 4GB GTX960?
> Current year
> Believing nvidia shilling
>>336801258
>mfw i just bought the 980 TI card just two days ago.
fuck my life, am far behind once again
>>336807057
It depends what you're upgrading from. I don't think we'll see the full Pascal card until next year so it feels like a good time to upgrade my aging 770.
>>336807107
no, wait for cards with hbm.
>>336807226
>I don't think we'll see the full Pascal card until next year so it feels like a good time to upgrade my aging 770.
then upgrade to the 980ti when the price drops.
do not buy these cards. there's nothing really wrong with them like 3.5 or woodscrews, but Pascal was supposed to be HBM2 and these are GDDR5X.
>>336807157
Can't you just get a refund?
>>336807057
>HBM
>worth a shit anytime soon
GDDR is far better atm and will be for the foreseeable future
FPS benchmarks for games when
So this is why Dark Souls III was unoptimized as fuck
>>336807107
Probably. I have a 760 and it seems like almost anything would be an upgrade.
I'd honestly wait on reviews from both nvidia and AMD see what's a better deal. I'll probably stick with Nvidia since i like a lot of their features.
But AMD has always been a more economical choice.
Are these new cards from AMD and NVIDIA require a new mobo or something? I might aswell wait for the 390/970 to lower in price. I always play game on low except for maybe textures. I'm also going to wait for that PS4K and see what happens.
But will it run Ridge Racer?
I just want 1070 benches.
If it's within 95% performance of the 980 TI I'll get it.
>>336807226
We won't see the full Pascal until after Vega comes out and yeah that will probably be in about 8 months.
>>336807394
>GDDR is far better atm and will be for the foreseeable future
The literal only advantage of GDDR5(X) compared to HBM2 is the price and the fact that HBM2 isn't ready yet
HBM2 is expensive as fuck but come at a low as fuck electricity use and very small space usage
Both of these are disgustingly bad when you go with GDDR5X which eats a ton of electricity and space when you go full out
>>336807407
Dark souls 3 ran fantastic on a range of hardware for a AAA game.
Why all you faggots with toasters resort to unfounded claims about being unoptimised.
Dunno if I'll wait for the 1080ti. My 980ti runs so hot it's going to burn out before that thing releases. The 1080 runs way cooler; and runs a little better. Might be good for my mATX case.
whens the new AMD cards coming out?
>>336807662
980 4670k 850 pro
>>336807637
yeah and it works and exists right now
the tradeoff is worth it when you can get 8gb for cheap and HBM can't compete on price or capacity
>>336803414
That pic is hilarious.
>relative gaming performance, from 1 to 5
ok niggers. i still have 6870 + Phenom II X4 965. rolling with it since like 2009.
question is. should i go for budget build of r9 390 + i5 6600k now. or will the prices drop soon?
>>336807619
Good.
>>336807662
>works for me :)
>>336807662
Because it runs worse than Witcher 3 while looking worse. It's completely unoptimized.
>>336807386
no way i waited like a year to save my money for this card and am going to used it. my old card was a GT 560 card, nah am going to used my new 980 finally to play dark souls 3 on pc. but it pisses me the fuck off that once i finally get something a fucking newer version pops out of fucking nowhere. every fucking time
>>336807662
it ran well on nvidia cards. ran like trash on amd cards even though amdrones still go on about consoles helping their graphics cards.
Is there any difference in performance from a founders edition and a regular edition card?
>>336807619
>that webm
>>336807958
I don't know, maybe it's a factory watercooled version.
>>336807958
Probably just a shiny metal cooling case you won't see because it's in your computer and some nifty little things from nvidia like a felt carrying bag with their logo on it for whatever reason.
I'm ready to build another computer but I really don't want to play anything until GOTY Deus Ex comes our in August. Should I wait till that month to build it or is there no point?
>>336807882
>>336807662
I can run Dark Souls II at 60 FPS with everything on max, but 3 is literally unplayable (as in, I get 0 fucking frames everytime I move the camera) at 800x600 with everything on low
>>336807157
Do you live under a rock? Nvidia has been saying there is going to be an announcement for the past few weeks.
Plus the leaked cases for the 1070 & 1080 should of been a dead giveaway to save your money.
>>336802675
They had to recently recall a driver that was bricking the cards. What does it in for me is that they release drivers to gimp their older cards so you'll be more likely to upgrade. That and they pay cash to get games optimized for their cards instead of letting their cards actually shine for the quality they are. I just can't in good faith do business with them after all of the shit they've pulled.
play station 3 will retail for 599USD
>>336801258
Should I return my 980ti and get the 1080?
>>336807878
Are you mentally disabled? Of course better cards are going to come out.
Why hasn't AMD released any info about their new cards? Price, release date, fucking name? Have they just given up?
>>336807057
1070 and 1080 are more powerful than a Titan X if the specs are anything to go by.
>>336808094
THAT'S BECAUSE DS2 WAS AN XBOX 360 PORT AND DS3 IS A PS4 PORT
WOW FUCKING WEIRD RIGHT?
>>336804860
>7xx is still getting sold
Where? It's not even produced anymore.
You literally have to buy them used.
Once the 1xxx series hits the 980ti will drop down to $300 or something.
>>336808094
That's because DS2 has awful gutted lighting, it looks orders of magnitude worse than what they showed for e3. It only ran well for you because it was designed to look like shit.
>>336808609
>Once the 1xxx series hits the 980ti will drop down to $300 or something.
This never happens. Prices stay high to gouge SLI users.
>>336807157
>1 year ago
>nvidia start hinting about their next line of GPUs
I'd understand if you bought it one year ago but now? Do people not fucking do research before buying shit for $7-800?
>>336808758
>shitposting this hard.
When a new card line hits the old one drops in price.
It has happened with every single card.
>>336808873
[citation needed]
>>336807407
>ds3
>unoptimized
Maybe if you have a fucking toaster rig.
>mfw the price of top of the line 900 series dropz
perfect time to upgrade from my 760
>>336808529
>>336808629
Of course 3 will run worse, but the graphics are not good enough to justify such a huge drop in perfomance
What's the cheapest GPU i can get for a smooth 60fps in 1080p ?
>>336808965
Are you retarded?
>>336808873
Yes, but not by fucking half, especially a flagship card like the 980ti.
It will probably drop to 450 at the lowest, and then just get phased out, used ones will probably be $300
>>336808507
It's polaris, no release date but some info leaked.
furyx successor is going to have like 16 gb of HBM2 and R9 490x is going to have like 8gb gddr5 if this leaked info is correct.
>>336809008
for what game retard?
>>336808507
Because they're targeting the low-end and mid-range audience with the Polaris and have nothing to put up against the 1070 and the 1080 until Vega drops in very late 2016/early 2017. With the hype shitstorm in full effect over Nvidia's new high-end flagship cards, there's absolutely no way AMD could steal any of their thunder with a mainstream offering. It could be a fucking incredible card with amazing bang for your back, no high-end = no hype. Thus, they're content to take their time.
Maybe, just maybe, the better Polaris 10 (possible 480X) could reach within a kicking distance of the 1070 in some games (AMD backed, AMD-biased DX12/Vulkan titles), but with the leaked CU counts and the die size, it's probably not even intended to compete.
>>336801258
>giving my old card to a buddy
>was planning on upgrading to a 980ti
>now this
ho
lee
shit
>>336801258
My gtx 980 is sufficient for now. Is this card mainly for vr?
>>336809331
And 4k, that's why I'm upgrading.
is the ATI series cards also coming out this summer?
>>336809405
>>336809331
it will do VR but not 4k.
>>336809008
A 970 should cover most recent games. Maybe wait for the 1070 though.
>>336809209
I imagine Polaris will be pegged to console performance, which might mean very good performance at a very low cost, even if they can't directly compete with Nvidia's $400+ enthuiast cards (which is basically the only thing Nvidia made these days).
If 1070 is somewhat faster than a 980ti, it would be smart to sell my current 970 and upgrade ye? Or even to 1080
>>336807694
Polaris are due out this summer, likely before any of the Nvidia cards are actually available. However they're mid-range cards with Polaris 11 seemingly aimed at the 950 and Polaris 10 as the replacement for the 390 / 970, there have been suggestions it would deliver 980 level performance but I'm not sure I trust those.
Vega, AMD's new high end cards aren't due till the end of the year or even early next year and when they arrive you know Nvidia will drop an even higher performance version.
>>336809147
Probably lower than 450. But yeah, $300 is stretching it.
>>336809069
Using camelcamelcamel, prices for the GTX 780 dropped from about $650 to $550 when the 980 was announced, with rare sales around $400 after that.
>>336802079
>>336802460
>>336803571
>>336805149
>>336806514
>/v/ is so retarded they respond to bait every time
Yiu are why this board is shit
>>336809504
I figured so. Vr isn't to that point were it excites me but the card seems good for allowing devs to get to that point.
>>336809008
I'd buy a second-hand 970 once people start upgrading to the 1070 or wait for Polaris.
Then again, I kind of expect 970s to start becoming useless sooner rather than later given they're short of VRAM, while the consoles have fucking 8gb. The VRAM issue is why "bad" console ports have started appearing.
>assemble new pc without GPU
>400W power
will it be enough for 1080?
How much will the 970 and 980 drop in price?
>>336801258
Jesus, What relative Intel CPU would you need to not bottle-neck this type of card anyways. Ppl would be buying this shit and not really be able to properly utilize it.
>>336801258
You do know that this will make older cards like the 980 ti drop right? If anything that's good.
I mean, is not as if every time a new card comes out all other cards become trash. Old cards drop prices and are still pretty good. 980 was a monster like what? half a year ago?
>>336809773
They won't. They're going to stop manufacturing them and Nvidia policy is to push up card prices.
>>336809569
That might be overkill man, I'm running a 980Ti and get 60FPS on Ultra on literally anything I want to play. I think these high-end cards are for the 4K market, but I'd wait a couple more years til 4K is the standard.
I'll do a 1080 and walk away
>>336809504
It's still a big improvement for non-VR stuff, but I'll wait for actual bench instead of nvidia's slides.
>>336809761
unless you have an i3 and low voltage ram, enjoy your brownouts
>>336806278
No my man, if you want a fucking rendering machine you go for Quadro series.
Titan is just "razer" of VGAs.
>>336801641
Have people here become so sensitive that even obvious jokes are bait now?
>>336809761
kek who the fuck has a 400w power supply in 2016? did you get it free in a packet of shreddies?
>>336802446
When retards actually think AMD has better drivers than Nvidia
>>336809761
>buying a 400W PSU
Why? A decent 650W would set you back by 80 bucks or something.
>>336809881
kek
I wouldn't have any problems with my 3820k if I got the 1070 right? I already have good enough ram and psu otherwise.
>$599 for the gimped no-HBM2 cards
wew
>>336809779
Next-gen APIs of the sort that you'll need to get full speed performance out of one of these cards are less dependent on single thread performance and bottleneck more based on how many threads your CPU has to throw at draw calls.
So i5s which are restricted to 4 threads will bottleneck. You'll want at least a 8 thread CPU like an i7. AMD have already said that they won't sell a Zen CPU that is only 4 cores / 8 threads so don't be surprised if in a few years 8 core / 16 thread is the standard expected for gaming.
>>336801258
IT'S OVER AMD IS FINISHED
>>336810223
no thats fine. i bet that processor will still be fine in 5 years desu
>>336801445
it means you get 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 to relative performance
>>336803801
They want to feel better about their shitty purchase.
I have a 650 right now. Is it smart for me to wait for the 980 price drop like I planned or get something else?
So, in light of this announcement
Should I get this build now or wait for it to drop in price?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/X6cvLk
Case and some other parts already bought.
>>336810248
It'll be interesting if AMD can shit out a CPU-GPU combo that can do good 1440p performance for $380 or so, based on their console offerings.
Could really shake up the market, as an Intel+Nvidia combo could cost $250+ more.
>>336810546
Wait for the flood of second-hand cards. I can't see Nvidia pushing out cheap 980s.
>>336810248
Dude then depending on the timeframe ppl are going to have to have tip-top i7s to even 'maybe' sweat this thing?
budget builds are slowly but surely leaving us entirely? Well I dunno I guess It honestly depends on what games these devs want to put out I suppose.
>>336810565
ive been saying it would be interesting to see if amd can release a decent cpu for over 5 years and here we are. i dont have much expectations at this point
>>336810558
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/X6cvLk
At that price, you might as well wait til the new cards are out. The 1070 is only going to be a little bit more while being way better than the 970.
>>336809741
Exactly. All you have to do is look at ports from last generation. PS3 and Xbox 360 had 256 of VRAM. Ports required 256MB at first, then 512MB or more.
PS4 allocates 2.5GB to 3GB for VRAM. So pretty soon 6GB will be minimum and 12G will be recommended on PC.
/g/ here, just came from the frontpage where this was "featured".
You're all retarded as fuck, kek.
>>336809550
>very good performance at a very low cost
This is definitely what they're aiming at. I'd imagine the Polaris cards to sport an impressive price to performance ratio. They were also apparently aiming for great power efficiency and good VR support in an effort to spread VR from early adopters/enthusiasts to the larger masses.
We know basically nothing about the Polaris, but rumours abound. According to them, Polaris 10 (possibly 480 and 480X) is said to bring bring 390X/GTX 980 level performance at ~130W power draw. The die size is small, implying at great yields and low card prices in the card's future. Below $300 was mentioned.
Also, it might be that AMD is concentrating on developing multi-GPU tech. They have a strangehold on console tech and have a huge say on their architecture, the Zen CPUs are going big on core counts (nothing below 8 cores, 16 and 32 planned for standard consumer usage) and DX12/Vulkan are efficient at utilizing extra CPU cores (as well as multiple GPUs). The small die size of the Polaris might imply that their aim is to eventually spread multi-GPU solutions to not just consoles, but into mainstream graphics cards too.
Still though, that's two paragraphs of rumours and assumptions, and maybe AMD is just in extremely deep shit after all. We'll see as the year progresses.
>>336810392
I love how they use that graph to imply the GTX 1080 is more power efficient when it clearly isn't.
180W vs 160W for the 980.
>>336810745
Ah.
Well, the problem is, I currently have a defunct computer and I'm not sure if its worth getting now, doing this so called evga process to upgrade later..
>>336805195
>>336804752
>>336804691
:relative: preformance
True gamers will have atleast one 1080 for battlefield
>>336810102
>tfw just got build done after leaving behind a 2008 toaster
>read this
>>336810782
>"I browse /g/ so I know what i'm talking about"
/ck/ here. Do you really think those fuckers can cook too?
Feel free to enlighten us.
>>336809881
I'm guessing relative performance encapsulates everything about the card not just FPS.
If so that's still really good it's only a little ways off from being 2 times better.
Still looks like misleading PR stuff though.
>>336810920
The 1080 releases near the end of may, and the 1070 releases on like June 10th. You could EVGA it, but at that rate, why even bother?
>>336810782
/g/ doesnt know shit about graphics cards or gaming anymore. now its just dead. full of shillfags and operating system wars. each thread gets about 10 replies
i used to like it too
>>336810727
The CPUs don't have to be "decent" if we're talking DX11 shit, especially since CPU performance is steadily becoming less important. Devs are now pegging their performance to the fucking awful AMD processors in the consoles. Single-thread CPU performance, where Intel dominates, is becoming less important. AMD just fucked themselves by being like 10 years ahead of the curve.
>>336810751
Uhhh, the issue is that they use the majority of shared RAM as VRAM and use streaming techniques and shit. That's why a game like Arkham Knight runs like utter shit on PC.
>>336811027
Yeah I don't exactly trust their PR stuff and the games were probably cherry-picked too so I'll wait for real bench.
>>336807747
lol works fine on my 390
>>336810248
>"next gen consoles will use all 8 threads of a CPU so PC ports will too!"
>THREE YEARS LATER
>still doesn't happen
>still better to buy an i5
Stop lying to people already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
>>336811080
Because I'm going to have to rebuild sooner rather than later. Current build finally died on me, might be Mobo/GPU/CPU on a whole.
>>336810908
There are two directions on the graph mate.
It is more power hungry but has alot more performance. so it technically is more efficient.
>>336810248
i saw some dx12 study and it only used 6 of the 8 cores. so the you need 8 cores meme isnt true
>>336801574
I know this guy is just memeing but there are people who genuinely think like this.
It will be like the "new 3ds"
>mfw all the maxwell cucks are going to get downgraded starting next month
nvidia is coming for the rest of your "4" GB
>>336811245
Yeah fine I guess so.
But in the sense that for every minute of playing video games it uses more power, it's less efficient. I know that's kind of a dumb metric, but it's what I meant.
As opposed to the 980 vs 780, which was better and used less power also.
>>336810908
Holy shit, you're a moron.
That's a lot of money just to play MOBAs and chinese power point porn.
>>336810842
That's my feeling. It's just the first time in a while where I can see a route to AMD success - leverage their console advantage to close the power gap at a lower price, while Intel and Nvidia both push for the high-end.
Are people willing to pay double the price for a <25% performance improvement?
It's also going to be interesting to see what they can do on laptops.
>>336801997
>>336802460
>>336805149
>>336806748
>obvious jokes are bait
kill ureselves
>>336811589
AMD also gets Apple's laptop contracts. Not that people buy MBPs that much, but it's still useful. Also iMacs and Mac Pros.
I hope Polaris is decent.
>>336811497
>it uses more power, it's less efficient
That is not what efficiency means. Efficiency is dependent on the output, which in this case is performance, so fps. GTX 1080, according to the chart, achieves much greater performance at a slightly higher power draw, which makes it more efficient.
>>336810842
>Below $300 was mentioned
Shit like this is why I want AMD to stick around. $250 AMD make it happen!
>>336811762
Yep, efficiency was the wrong word. I just meant power hungry. That graph kind of obscures the fact it consumes more power than the 980. But yes you're right, it is more efficient.
>>336810032
I know, wtf. That wasn't bait you dumb cunts that was just a joke. Like how retarded do people have to be
>>336801258
>not waiting for the ti version
You cucks never learn.
This isgoing to sound like fearmongering bs, but how will amd compete with nvidia using "gamesworks" and sabotaging games? How will i as a player disable that shit?
>>336812092
Christ, just imagine how much they're going to charge for the 1080Ti. $800?
At what point does it hit a price where people stop buying?
>>336812092
>Doesn't know that Ti version comes out in q3-q4 2017 and will cost at least same as titan x on launch
Remove yourself
>this thread
>bullshitbutillbelieveit.tiff
>>336812342
AMD will try to gain an advantage from manufacturing all the console shit..
>>336810727
Intel is the only option for a cpu at this point main man.
>>336812342
AMD is competing by having Vulkan based on Mantle and DX12 inspired by Mantle. We'll see how that translate in game performance in a few years.
>How will i as a player disable that shit?
If the dev is thoughtful enough, they will give you the option to turn off Gameworks related things. Like in Dying Light.
>>336801641
You have made me so happy I could die
AMD should brand their CPUs and graphics cards together and encourage prebuilt PCs that have better-than-console specs for $4-500. Nvidia and Intels prices are insane these days.
1070 is a 7.5gb card guys.
Prepare for the butthurt
>>336813070
7.5 wouldn't be as much of a problem as 3.5 to be honest. Unless you're playing at 4K, but then why would you use a X70?
>>336813168
Problem is, like the 970 the card will turn into a stutter fest when you get there.
>Also advertised as 8gb
They are fucking lying again too
>>336804351
Without trying to start something (and also not that other anon), I want to know if this is actually true. I recall AMD drivers being terrible, nvidia cards of the same price range having better performance overall, and AMD cards being hot as fuck and crapping out faster. I'm not saying that any of these things are true, but it's really hard to knock this mindset at this point considering how fucking long AMD complaints went on for.
>>336803709
>>336803709
If this is true I really need to get an i5
>PCucks are already wetting their pants to buy another 600$ card to play undertale.
I feel sorry for you memers.
>>336810985
/x/ here. Ya'll can't summon a succubus even if you tried.
>>336813364
>when you get there
That's the thing, there are currently very few games that go beyond 3.5 at 1440p (which is the maximum res you should use a X70 card at). By the time we reach 7.5, the 1070 will be absolete.
>>336811471
I have a 760 and honestly don't give a fuck. I don't really even play AAA shitfests anymore, and will only replace my card once it can't even work anymore.
>>336812342
>How will i as a player disable that shit?
Stop downloading it with the driver and turn off the service that runs it under services manager. You have zero excuses for letting it run and then complaining about it running.
>>336813580
You cuck
>>336812954
Please don't die anon I don't want to be the cause of your death
>>336813471
What's the spiciest meme /x/ ever made? I usually only browse /tv/ for memes and that place is a shitshow these days.
>>336813830
Oh I'm not defending Nvidia potentially fucking over their consumer once again. I'm simply saying it won't be as big of a deal as the 970.
>>336812414
>spending 600 dollars now for literally 25% less performance at least instead of waiting
>spending 600 on a lackluster upgrade from a card you probably don't even need to upgrade from
>>336813929
I actually wouldn't know, that place is full of shit threads like roleplayers, and fortune telling threads, and >how to summon ____ XDXDXD, so I haven't been there in a long time.
>>336801641
I don't know whats funnier, this joke or all the idiots getting upset over it.
Good job
>>336801258
Im not upset a new card is out, but holy fuck thats less than I paid for my 980 ti a few months ago, which is good in a way but also bullshit. I knew about waiting for pascal, but figured the new cards would be at LEAST 1k dollars, not 600 bucks. Fuck me, the memes were right. Im a loser. A cuck. A failure. My life, whats it worth?
>>336801445
Probably a higher binned chip allowing more headroom for overclocking it to 2.1ghz core clock
>>336813364
970 owner here
never once ran into stuttering issues because i've never gone above 3.5.
>>336814280
Why would you expect the x80 card to be $1000. Are you an idiot?
>>336801835
>he thinks his console will outperform the current most powerful GPU of all time
>>336801258
Besides the price I'm most concerned with ansel. This is only going to make the bullshots worse than before....
http://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-ansel-in-game-photography-360-degree-views
>>336801641
most logical post in the thread
>>336812361
My cut off is 700 dollars but only after at least 3 years.
Got a 780ti at launch. Gonna be a while still before I need any shirt off upgrade. Mirrors edge catalyst was making it chug but I chalk it up to horrible optimization. That game had so many issues in the beta.
>>336801258
I'll just wait for GTX 1440.
What's the ti gonna be like and how much is it gonna cost
>>336814572
it will be in europe
taxes,brand, inflation= 750-800
these initial prices mean nothing
>>336813364
no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEnZO3DiywY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6MDUjFiUR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COEwgUI6D3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljHgKO1E3s4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW-H0qNw38M
you have no idea what the issue actually is. the 970 can physically use all 4gb vram. the real meme is a 390, which can't even physically use more than 4/5gb vram. they're trying to sell you an overclocked 290 with 4gb extra vram which can't even be fully utilized, for $100 more.
http://www.techspot.com/review/1114-vram-comparison-test/
>As for the 4GB R9 290 vs. 8GB R9 390 comparison, there was nothing to see here. Most games didn’t consume more than 4GBs of VRAM, but there were cases such as in Assassin's Creed Syndicate where with almost 5GBs of memory usage, there was still not a single frame difference. Moreover, in this Assassin's Creed Syndicate example the 290 and 390 were good for just 26fps on average, so clearly the quality settings will need to be reduced for achieving playable performance and consequently memory use will drop.
>We see plenty of gamers claiming that the 390 and 390X are excellent buys due to their 8GB frame buffer ensuring that they are "future proofed," and well, that simply isn’t the case, as neither GPU has the horsepower to efficiently crunch that much data. Perhaps the only valid argument here is that the larger frame buffer could support Crossfire better, but we haven’t seen any concrete evidence of this yet.
how anyone can fall for amd's shoddy marketing is beyond me.
>>336803482
I don't think you understand graphs anon. The 1080 IS more powerful than the Titan X. What's on the x axis is totally irrelevant to that.
>>336814446
That's great and all but some of us actually play games that aren't WoW or several year old mobas
>>336801258
i have a 7870, had it for 4 years
im at the latter end of this card being able to run everything
most games are fine but i cant max anything new anymore
im actually happy that this is out, if AMD can compete ill have fun searching the ins and outs of the cards. at any rate this is going to make the other lower cards go cheaper so is it safe to assume a 780 or something will be mid range priced now or is that too ambitious
>>336814860
The 290 would have actually been a better buy for me if I had done some more research. I got the 2GB 770 instead in May 2014 only to have the fucking 970 come out 3 months later. At least I didn't fall for the 4GB bullshit since it has the exact same performance as the 2GB 770. Now I'm wondering what the best time to upgrade will be.
>>336815267
I'd buy the 1070 at launch or wait for Polaris.
>>336802163
They will.
>Buying the first gen of a new graphics card
Give it six months, you bakas.
>>336804393
STOP POSTING ANYTIME NOW
>>336814921
W3 ultra 1080p never stuttered or even hit 3GB
Planetary Annihilation 1080p never stuttered or went over 3.5 maxed
GTAV 1080p never stuttered or went over 3.5 with things close to max
>>336814860
The article you link to explains why it has 8GB: it is useful if you plan on CrossFiring (and by extent play at 4k).
>>336801258
I'm gonna upgrade my 660ti to this after its been out for a few months.
>>336815503
it kind of uses 6gb+ in rotr already
things will get worse with each new release, so if anyone plans to keep that 970 for long i'd start saving up
>>336801258
like with all technology, I'll wait for the third or fourth iteration to get all the bugs ironed out. It's not like modern games can even push my 980 anyways.Thanks consoles
>>336806473
>Buying AMD because they, foe the first time in history, actually have a game that runs better on their GPUs.
>>336813929
Stop talking like this.
>>336815503
>Perhaps the only valid argument here is that the larger frame buffer could support Crossfire better, but we haven’t seen any concrete evidence of this yet.
Perhaps the only valid argument here is that the larger frame buffer could support Crossfire better, but we haven’t seen any concrete evidence of this yet.
>but we haven’t seen any concrete evidence of this yet.
that's not an explanation. its speculation. learn the difference.
8gb vram is a meme on such weak cards. amd had to find a reason to resell people and overclocked 290 for $100 more so they stuck on an extra 4gb vram which can't even be utilized. even games at 4k don't use 8gb vram yet hence why a 980 ti has only 6gb and a fury x has 4gb. you'd have to honestly be an utter spastic to buy a 390/x over a perfectly good 290/x which you can simply overclock to 3xx levels.
>>336815478
Witcher 3 was almost certainly targeted at the 970, especially since it was in development way before next-gen consoles were released.
GTA V was a last-gen game with better textures.
The reality of the market is that most games are developed with consoles in mind and get late ports, and modern next-gen games run like utter shit because of the shortage of VRAM.
>>336801258
isn't that low?
>>336815885
It outperforms the Titan X, takes less power and is way cheaper.
>>336815885
It's pretty ok for the advertised performance.
>>336801258
With that money I can get a ps4 + 1 year PS+ and a game.
Fuck.
>>336801258
Will Ivy Bridge Bottleneck this?
>>336801258
It looks kind of like a spaceship.
Is it a spaceship?
>>336806473
dont forget the dx12 shit
the 290x beats the 980ti in dx12
the 980ti originally cost 800$
>>336814860
People should stop thinking VRAM is a performance-improving thing, it's just the buffer size games can use to store rendered frames.
If a game uses only 3 gbs to store it's renders then it won't matter if you have a 4gb card or an 8gb card.
VRAM is basically just a requirement that won't have any improvements after you've reached the minimum for the render.
>600 dollarydoos to play pixelshit indie games and "muh Crysis"
>Console plebs commenting
Kek, go buy your third PS4 you fucking fags. I hope it has at least an AMD 280 in it so you can only be like 5 years behind instead of 10.
>>336816124
If the textures can't fit inside VRAM then performance grinds to a fucking halt. And since the consoles effectively have 8gb VRAM...
>>336815817
>even games at 4k don't use 8gb vram
Shit, seriously? I thought the 3.5 issue was found on Metro LL Redux at 1080p (among others), how come 4k isn't reaching those numbers?
>>336814860
>all the AMDrones came out of the wood work spamming Nvidia threads with furry porn and "le 3.5 xD"
>the moment the 390X is confimed to be a rebrand, all GPU shitposting threads ceased.
can't wait to see what blunders both companies will do, and what new shitposting will arise this year.
>>336815839
>and modern next-gen games run like utter shit because of the shortage of VRAM.
Name one that isn't a pile of shit that has problems with the 970 at 1080p
>>336801258
I should probably upgrade since my GTX 980 Ti will have its drivers gimped soon.
>Almost double the cost of a console to play the same games
Yeah, no thanks.
>>336816542
*at a higher quality and performance
>>336811967
Nah you're just retarded
>>336816124
Vram is extremely important if you are playing games in higher resolutions like 1440p and 4k
>>336814064
kill yourself
People keep saying it's better to not buy the card at release. Why is this? Is it better to wait for other cars manufacturers to release their variants?
I don't really want to wait, but if buying at release is bad I guess I'll wait.
>>336816675
Who cares though? Does that change the writing? The story? The acting? The gameplay? I could care less if a $599 graphics card meant I could play the same game just with extra god rays.
>>336816124
>People should stop thinking VRAM is a performance-improving thing
this is both right and wrong. having higher bandwidth vram can increase performance by quite a bit when moving massive 4k resources in and out of ram. nvidia and amd won't be releasing hbm 2 and gddr5x vram if it had no performance improvement. it helps at higher resolutions.
you're right when it comes to the amount of vram. this will never effect performance. 99% of games that are available today (not including unoptimized trash) can run perfectly fine on a 2gb card. no developer in their right mind will develop a game that can only be used with 4/6/8 gb vram only. having extra vram can be a bonus with bigger cache sizes but in the overall picture of things vram is never the limiting factor. you'll run out of graphical performance before you reach a vram bottleneck.
>>336815694
>Wanting to play Fall of the Tomb Raider
Spot the casual with no taste.
>that feel when going to upgrade my 670 to a 1070
I am excited.
>>336816675
silky smooth 60FPS is not worth $600
is now a good time to upgrade from a 980?
>>336816884
Yeah bro every year is good to upgrade if you buy Nvidia
>>336816862
It's a good thing 60 fps doesn't cost that much then. Shitty console hardware just can't handle it.
>GTX 1080
Apparently somebody in fort mcmurray managed to get their hands on one of these cards early.
>>336816862
>PS4faggots gonna pay 500 US DOLLARS for the PS4.5 for 60fps and shit tier PSVR
>>336816862
Silky smooth 165 fps @1440p might just be worth it, though. Not that you'll ever know what that's like. Also,
>not recouping the extra costs through piracy
I mean, come on.
>>336801258
>Pay for a PS4.5 for $500
>Last for years
>Have to upgrade your Nvidia card every year once Nvidia patches yours obsolete
kek PCucks
>>336815432
>>Buying the first gen of a new graphics card
>Give it six months, you bakas.
Not only this but
>REFERENCE COOLERS
These things are loud as fuck.
My friends MSI 2 fan, nonreference cooler is quieter than mine, even when I'm not playing a fucking game.
I'm never getting a reference cooler again.
>>336816817
Higher framerates do improve the gameplay, and better graphical fidelity makes for a more enjoyable experience.
You can give that as much value as you want, but claiming you'll get "just the same experience as on console" with a high end GPU is just plain wrong.
>>336817115
>Silky smooth 165 fps @1440p might just be worth
Yeah if I had $2000+ to blow on every year just for kiddy video games
>>336809183
All games fuckface.
>>336817180
>and better graphical fidelity makes for a more enjoyable experience.
>>336817115
>Silky smooth 165 fps @1440p
Too bad modern games are so demanding you won't reach that level of performance even on enthusiast grade GPUs.
>>336817253
>doesn't have $2000 a year to blow
Seriously?
>>336817254
Not even a 980Ti can get 60 fps for 100% of the games out there.
>>336816757
Enjoy wasting your money, regretting your purchase when there's nothing to play in the time between both card releases that your old card couldn't already handle
You fucking loser lmao
>>336802249
I have a 970 and it's pretty nice. A 980 TI will keep you set for a while
>>336817347
I do, but not for a hobby like video games. I'm an adult with responsibilities, not a manchild who has a lot of free time to play vidya.
what's the point of these cards? To play what exactly?
>>336817394
I am sure it can, just not with all settings set on 'ultra'. Nothing wrong with setting something on 'high' or 'medium'.
>>336817180
>Muh 2048p 256fps Cinematic Experience™
kys you easily entertained toddler.
>>336817137
You realise a 150$ video card absolutely obliterates the PS4 right?
>>336802249
Ignore >>336803274
>>336803389
>>336817435
They are fucking retards.
Get the 1070, it's as good if not better than a 980. For half the price.
>>336817575
To beFUTUREPROOF
>>336817535
I too am an adult with responsibilities. You're making it sound like you can't afford to blow $2k on something and have any money leftover for any other hobby.
>>336817575
The same games consoles struggled to run at 30 fps and 720p, only in 60 fps and 4k instead. Any other questions?
>>336817575
Playing Minecraft and watching female Twitch streamers in 4k
>>336817575
to drive 4k on 25" monitors with PPI value so small you need a magnifying glass to tell the difference.
>>336817580
Oh, you meant "simply running" at 1080p60fps?
In that case a GTX 960/R9 280 should do the trick.
Maybe you could drop down to 950/270 but I highly doubt you could run everything at 1080p.
>>336817714
You must revaluate yourself if you think an adult still paying thousands of dollars to play video games is a good thing
>>336817767
So you pay more to play upscaled garbage? Goodness
>>336817604
Actually it's 2160p.
>>336817910
>upscaled
You use this word but I don't think it means what you think it means.
>>336807878
>out of fucking nowhere
these posts are the worst, fuck I fucking hate you
>>336817286
What point are you trying to make here?
Never gonna upgrade until Polaris
$100 for a GPU that plays video games better than PS4
>>336817831
In your uninformed opinion, how do you think - AMD medium range GPUs will manage to work better than 280/290?
>>336813373
You know Nvidia was the start of the whole house fires meme.
I own an XFX r9 390 and it runs great I havent have any issues in games at 1080p.
It idles at 30C and maxes out at 70C
Card cost me 300 USD.
>>336818064
The fact that you're trying really hard to justify it, must be a hard pill to swallow.
>>336803206
Oh shit. Did we ever get VR to work as a non-gimmick?
>>336818107
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. You're wondering if mid range GPUs can perform better than high end GPUs?
>>336801553
underrated post
>>336818076
It plays Uncharted 4? Awesome!
>>336818212
>better graphics and performance
>hard to justify
okay bub
>>336818013
Alright so let me say it another way: you pay more to play the same garbage except that it's at 60fps and 4K? Goodness
>>336801258
So let me get this right, its better because it has 8gb? I thought there were already other options that pushed 8gb already
>mfw pc gaming
>>336817852
I pay my bills like everyone else, can blow that money in games, and still have plenty leftover for whatever I may need. I don't see what the problem is anon.
>>336801258
What the fuck is a teraflop?
>>336818561
It's a new generation of floppy disks that can hold up to 1TB of data. However they're still really expensive so they could only fit 9 into the card.
>>336818330
Yes, better things cost more money, you know. Did it take you till just now to figure this out?
>>336817575
skyrim sex mods
>>336818343
no. these new cards will actually be able to utilize 8gb fully. any current gpu with 8gb vram is too weak to use its full 8gb.
>>336818294
It can emulate it with YouTube
>>336818343
No, it's better because it has a higher raw power, and true DX12 support this time around.
>>336818797
But not in 4k ;)
>>336818561
1 teraflop = a fucking lot of floating point operations per second
>>336818294
never gets old
>>336804726
>4k on a 1080p display
can someone explain this because i don't think it works that way
>>336818294
Who even finds Uncharted games fun? The dudebro core is like Uncharted+God of War+Fifa
>>336818486
What does that have to do with PC gaming, friend?
>>336818890
It's called downscaling and it's used as an anti-aliasing method.
>>336818706
>better
Lmao
>>336801258
I'm switching to AMD anyway.
>>336818982
>worse experience is somehow not better
lmao, alright kid.
>>336801553
nice
>>336818294
>but can it play the latest cinematic third person cover shooter with mediocre platforming segments????
Who gives a shit?
>>336819059
>playing cod and assassins creed at 60fps somehow makes the game not shit
Lmao, keep eating shit
>>336818970
oh thanks
>8gb GSX
>GSX
Wut?
>>336819234
It makes those games *less* shit.
>>336801258
Why buy it when there are no extreme graphical games. My GTX 970 OC runs everything great. There is no point in buying when there really are no games to use it on.
>>336801258
>muh pc mustard race
A single part of your computer costs more than an entire console
Tell me how cheap it is to build a PC though
:^)
>>336819259
It's written "G5X". As in "GDDR5X".
>>336819301
It's still shit, why pay more for a turd with a side of soap?
>>336819307
I remember back in the days we had crysis 1 and that's why i bought my GPU. Today there really are no games like crysis 1 to upgrade the GPU.
>>336819309
>mfw you don't have to have the best hardware available, but you can
>PC gaming is all about freedom of choice, something consoles lack
>>336803602
Somebody already did that and made threads on /v/ and the shit posting just changed to
>I-i-it's a CPU thing!
>4-4-4 frames don't matter
It was pathetic. You can search the archives for the threads. OP had ARMA 3 for a pic with something like "why is it okay when Nvidia does this?" and a post explaining his process.
>>336819259
G5X
>>336819404
Why play video games at all if you hate them so much?
>>336819404
Why pay for consoles or games at all if they're the games are just shit?
>>336819307
i guess if you want to play 4k res games at 60fps and not have to buy two 980's in the future to enjoy the fast developing gaming world.
>>336801258
So this means every other card would drop prices right? Finally an excuse to get something cheaper
>>336801916
>build $1000 PC
>games are cheaper
>DS3 is $60 on console and $60 on PC
>Both consoles are around $300
Is this just really sad?
>>336810029
so it's pretty sharp?
Buying X80 cards is stupid unless you have a huge income.
>>336817137
I bought my PS4 2 months after my r9 390, which means if I had waited I could of gotten a PS4k and a 1070 for the same price as what I paid.
My r9 390 is going to still play games at 60 fps for years to come. My PS4 gave me an entire 30 fps in BB, unless I played multiplayer, in which I then got 30 fps with constant dips to 10, except in the DLC, where I got dips to literal single digit frames.
So no, I don't have to upgrade my graphics card, but consoles are a fucking scam.
Top kek just gonna sell my 280x and get the next sweet - spot card and don't buy for another 2 - 3 years
>>336817575
They just play games with better relative performance.
I was on a 9800 gtx+ then upgraded to a r9 390. These cards are not interesting to me because it just means I would get more frames in some games at 1440p.
However because the PS4 and Xbone I won't actually need to upgrade again for 4 years at least.
>>336818561
A trillion floating point operations per second.
All graphics operations are basically manipulating large sets of data, so that means in a second it can manipulate a lot of sets.
>>336820039
I paid 60 for DS3 but I paid 7 dollars for The Evil Within and enjoyed it immensely considering I paid 7 dollars for it.
Are you guys juts going to overlook the 1070?
>>336820514
Why wouldn't you?
>>336820514
They haven't announced that yet, so what is there to discuss.
>>336804557
Did you skip math or something? It means that something that's at number 2 is twice as powerful as something at number 1 because 2 is twice as big as 1, and so on. In other words, it means that the 1080 has a bit more than twice the power of the 970. And that you're a retard if you can't comprehend this chart.
>>336820569
>>336820514
Oh fuck nevermind, I read "overclock".
No, I think the 1070 is more interesting for the common man but we have no info on it so we can't really discuss it.
>>336811967
It actually uses less power normally, if you were running the same workload on both cards assuming linear scaling when the 980 is using 165w to generate it's 2.5 performance units the 1080 is only using 100w. So it costs less to run.
It's not until you hit ~4 relative performance units that they are even close in usage cost.
>>336814609
Who is this sausage harpy
>>336810032
>>336812086
These cunts are just looking for any reason to mass-reply to a post with reactions, presumably to cobble together le epic screenshot /v/ moment.
>>336820104
I've had my 760 for four years now, and still don't have a reason to upgrade.
>>336820514
https://youtu.be/3WnmZwChW_s?t=3m50s
>inb4 linus shill tips
>Reference 1070 performs better than a Titan X
>Reference 1070 performs better than a two way 980 SLI.
>DirectX 12 was kind of avoided, but apparently there is a 25% increase in performance compared to a Titan X or 980 ti.
>>336803145
It's driver versions.
Look at dark souls 3 lmao
>>336820723Victoria Justice.She has nudes.
>>336801553
ayy
>>336820637
That cooler is for people that are afraid that their GPU will be spotted on a radar.
>>336820848
Thank you, my son.
>barely faster than 980Ti
>still cant play games at 4k 60FPS
Lmao! Nvcucks are fucking finished.
>>336801258
I'm gonna buy it day one. Then I'm going to get an htc vive
HELP!
>>336804273
>neogaf
>>336813373
>I recall AMD drivers being terrible, nvidia cards of the same price range having better performance overall, and AMD cards being hot as fuck and crapping out faster.
These are memes, bro. Nvidia as of recently has very shit drivers, gimps their old card so you buy newer ones, and perform worse than amd cards for the $.
>>336821023
I play 4k 60fps on my gtx970 as it is nigga.d3:ROS season 6 is live why are you shit posting instead of playing
>>336820848
>She has nudes.
so instead of Gold she should've called her single Diamonds
Are they ever going to release some successor of 750ti? A card with low wattage and slightly more powerful than 750ti under 150$?
>>336817137
>every year
(You)
>>336821418
http://anandtech.com/show/10237/evga-releases-geforce-gtx-950-low-power-graphics-cards-with-75w-tdp
yes.
>>336821291my video card died.
>>336801997
>>336802460
>>336805149
>>336806748
>obvious jokes are bait now
