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The Incom T-65 X-wing is the fighter that killed the Death Star. An almost perfect


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The Incom T-65 X-wing is the fighter that killed the Death Star.

An almost perfect balance of speed, maneuverability, and defensive sheilds, makes this the fighter of choice for Rogue Squadron, except when the mission profile disallows it.

In addition to 4 blaster cannons, the X-wing can carry a number of proton torpedoes. It's power by 4 fusial trhust engines, and requires an on-board astromech droid for peak performance.
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Does this still run like shit on Dolphin on W10? Any level with ground (Hoth, and the Prisons of Maw) the FPS cuts in half.
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X-Wing a shit, A-wings for the win
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>>336524848

Y-Wing all day every day.
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>no flying Buick in any newer star wars games

why
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>>336524745
Because it was made with technical wizardry
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How good is the pc port?
its on steam
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>>336524471
>>>/tv/
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>>336524471
X wings was legit OP, no reason not to take it.

>built like a fucking tank, can take serious damage
>solid repair ability
>good firepower
>has a go fast mode
The X wing was just great.
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>>336525268
The Naboo starfighter was op as fuck in that game though
insanely fast rof on those cannons, could decimate everything
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>>336525441
That was a cheat craft though so doesn't really count.
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>>336525032
MY

NIGGA

Rugged, classic, still popping interceptors over endor
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>>336525032
but the y-wing is an outdated outclassed piece of shit in its own universe

y y-wing?
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>>336525032
Whats the point of those long chylinders behind the engines?
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>>336525741
More like the y bother senpaitachi desu
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>Not a B-Wing

why even bother
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>>336525741
Back in the day the Y-Wing offered the same performance as the X-Wing.
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>>336525032

Y-Wing is cool and all, but B-Wing is where it's at

Though the B-Wing has jack shit on the cool factor of the Y-Wings 2nd turret

I fucking loved hopping into that turret in X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter; letting the AI pilot and just blasting shit with the ion cannons

Then capturing them in X-Wing Alliance
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>>336525885
A vectral was an engine component designed to scatter and dampen exhaust emissions, thereby reducing a starship's sensor profile. The vectrals also served as a steering mechanism by redirecting the exhaust in flight to alter the ship's heading. Koensayr Manufacturing's BTL Y-wing starfighters employed disk-shaped vectrals at the end of their Ion Jet engines.

Thank you Wookiepedia.
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>>336525081
Didn't that make the N64 version crash constantly? Factor 5 games were always so great but could be glitchy.
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>>336526357

Fastest ship in the galaxy my ass

Han was always full of shit
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>>336526670

but he made the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs
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>>336526670
Not to defend star wars' horrible lore, but he's talking about moving through hyperspace not combat speed
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>>336526816
parsecs are a unit of distance, not time, shitlord.
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>>336526670
>Han was always full of shit

That was the original idea that just got lost somewhere along the way.
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>>336526927

Yeah and Jedi were somehow a myth only 30 years after the Galactic Civil War even though they not only existed, but existed in significant numbers for thousands of years before that

The Force Awakens' story is fucking stupid
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Remember me /v/? Huh, do ya?
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if episode 8 doesn't have any y-wings i'll be dissapointed
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The Tatooine tutorial was the comfiest shit, doing it three times during morning, day, and night to unlock something was so fun.
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So /v/, in games like Galactic Battlegrounds, or Empire at War, did you choose Imps or Rebs?
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>>336527126

Go fuck yourself, you're when the series went downhill
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>>336527236
Rebels are scum
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>>336526816

Obi Wans reaction to that claim was because he knew Han was talking shit.

>>336527048

This.
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>>336527258

Really? You really think it STARTED to go down hill with that book?

Regardless, I'm still so fucking pissed that they actually did an event in Star Wars Galaxies to celebrate "zombies now in Star Wars!"

Thankfully I had quit by then, but hearing the stories makes me so sad at what became of such a great game

Also, pic related is no longer canon. My waifu is deaaaaaaaad
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>>336527484
Don't forget the damn thing being broken down all throughout Empire.
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>>336527236
Imps, because there was no Republic or CIS/Separatist options.
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so can we all agree that the only good thing to come out of The Force Awakens was TRAITOR
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>>336527048
>>336526927
>>336526856
>>336526670
The Millennium Falcon has a hyperdrive that's rated at Class 0.5, which is incredibly fast. All Imperial ships and fighters have a Class 1.0 hyperdrive, which is slower, while most civilian ships have Class 2.0 or higher. So Han wasn't exaggerating the ship's speed.

Also, what he said about the Kessel Run still stands, because that route passes by The Maw, a treacherous region full of black holes, which means ships have to take a wide route around it. The Falcon was able to skirt past the black holes as a much closer distance.
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>>336527236
>Alderran
>green instead of red

even the historians after the fact recognize the fact that the empire did nothing wrong there
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>>336527550
I don't remember that event, was it post nge?
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>>336527550
>Also, pic related is no longer canon. My waifu is deaaaaaaaad

That's probably been copied and mutilitaed into R1's Ira Belle.
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>>336527648
On that map, green stands for genocide.
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>>336527661

Yes
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>>336527645

None of that is canon anymore.
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>>336527648
Alderaan shot first
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>>336527734

Jaina is just one of the waifu-tier waifus to be retconned into oblivion

pic related

Fuck you Lucas. Fuck you

Fuck you because now I will never get an X-Wing Rogue Squadron adaption from the books

Yeah, I know, Rogue One. But it's not Rogue Squadron without at least Wedge, Tycho & Wes
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>>336527187
Of course it wont have Y-Wings. By that point in time the craft would be 50 years old. Anything the Y-Wing could do the T-70 X-Wing could probably do equally or better.

A-Wing however has been confirmed
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>>336527550

It's the turning point, yes. It was steadily going down, but the cop out MUH ZOMBIES was the biggest load of shit
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>>336527890

kek'd
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>>336528183
She will be missed, but considering everything else that got taken with her it's an acceptable loss.

I'll miss the Thrawn Trilogy more, though, god damn that was an awesome part of the EU.
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>>336528198
Wasn't the A-wing ridiculously unwieldy and only japs could pilot it?
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>>336528198
>the craft would be 50 years old
So?

Change the old design slightly and then say its new like every other D-canon fighter.
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>>336527123
Star Wars universe doesn't seem to have any internet connecting everyone from what I can see, and in a huge galaxy far away events could just seem like rumors or stories from the perspective of a remote planet.

It still is silly though.
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>>336524745
Rogue Squadron 3D is on sale on steam and gog for $5.
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>>336528484

Ah fuck you anon, I had forgotten about that...

Shit, I want to go re-read that now

But on the plus side, at least pic related doesn't exist anymore
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>>336528605

WHAT IS THE HOLONET I AM COMPLETELY IGNORANT


It's not canon :^))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>336525217
I also would like to know
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>>336528649
Thank fucking Christ. Along with Jacen Solo turning Sith and making a fifteenth Empire, Chewie being squished by a moon, Mandalorian dick-sucking.
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>>336528183
Its not Rogue Squadron to begin with. It has nothing to do with X-Wings.

Hence why its not called Rogue Squadron
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>>336528826

I don't understand why they killed Chewie off

I mean, at least he didn't go out like a bitch or something, but still, it seemed like such a random plot twist. Like, "Hey, we're going to kill off this iconic character. Aren't we edgy?"

I thought it couldn't get any worse. Then Anakin dies and my barefoot waifu goes insane
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Will we ever get a good first person lightsaber combat game? and the wold dark forces games dont count those are already great.
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>you now realize it's been almost 20 years since rouge sqadron
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>>336527636

I can't think of anything about VII that was really good. The new cast are shitty OCs ripped from a grade schooler's notebook, the overall plot is just Jar-Jar Abrams pasting his favorite scenes from the previous movies together, the villain is the most generic CGI evil dude imaginable.
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>>336526357
That's true.

Even though they slowed it down a little in xwing and it turned like a brick, I liked its laser grouping.
Both cannons close together fired linked and fully charged would fuck a standard tie in one.
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how does a small ass ship like an x wing have a hyper drive, i always thought of them as similar to warp drive in startrek. Like iin trek bigger ships can go to faster warp speeds but in star wars it seems like only star destroyers and special speed ships like the millennium falcon. but than out of no where these tiny ass xwing combat ships all have hyperdrive.
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>>336527645
This is all shit added retroactively by people who missed the point. Han was meant to be full of shit - Obi Wan even gives him a dead eyed "you're so full of shit" look and shares a glance with Luke who rolls his eyes.


I guess aspies didn't pick up on that.
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>>336529483
Don't forget the Mary Sue protagonist.
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>>336527123
The original trilogy did that too. Vader was shit on for "believing in an ancient religion".
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>>336529513
The rebel fighters have a lot more fuselage room for components than the no-hyperdrive TIE fighters
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>>336529513
Its been like that sense ESB. Note how big the area behind the cockpit is. Plenty of room for a hyperdrive
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>>336527236
So /v/, in games like Empire at War, why did you choose the faction that doesn't own Interdictors?
You can't justify your mistakes, you just need to learn from them.
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>>336529407
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>>336529863
Change of pace
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>>336528509
TOO LATE
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Make way for Tie Bomber
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>>336527123
Except that was already in place during the OT.

There's no internet in the SW-verse and it seems like people have no way to communicate via hyperdrive, so it's basically all word of mouth and messengers for news delivery. It's not unbelievable that the Jedi would be completely unknown to backwater planets that were never visited by them, especially since the PT showed us that the Jedi were more monks/politicians that stayed behind the scenes and only made public appearances when necessary.
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>>336527550
what was the point of the hanging crotch leg straps anyways? was it just a onesize fits all thing
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>Taking down a Star Destroyer with a fucking B-Wing
Shit was retarded and badass at the same time.
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>>336528649
>>336528484
>>336528183

There was some good stuff in the EU, but overall it definitely needed to be purged. I don't think anyone will miss the sun destroyers or Hut Jedi for example.
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>>336530018
>their only appearance in the films

Makes me sad, they should have been in the Battle of Endor.

"Rogue Leader, we're under attack!"
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>>336530132

I thought it was a safety harness that's just never worn properly because they're rebellious
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My son loves playing this alonside OoT.
He can't play for shit since he's little, but he still has a lot of fun
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>>336529996
INTENSIFY FORWARD BATTERIES

HYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW_hGOFukMQ
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>>336530252
There were a couple zipping around for Vader to see.
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which tie fighter/xwing games do I get theyre on sale on steam
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>>336530308
>AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Reminder that the GOAT Star Wars sound effect is still Seismic Charges, especially in the Rogue Squadron games that had a Jedi Starfighter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erFcYsC6JaY
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>>336530504
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

funfact; he isn't actually making a death scream. This is just how you fly A-Wings normally.
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>>336530308
That's a woman, by the way
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>>336524471
Make way for the two best ships in the Star Wars games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCIu3tmPbxw
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>>336530687
Bullshit.
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WE GOTTA BUY MORE TIME
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>>336530687
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574436/
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Rogue Leader with a RGB cable looked better than 90% of the Wii library. Not bad for a Gamecube launchgame.
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>>336530920
Your mum was a gamecube launchgame.
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>>336524471
The X-wing has laser cannons, not blaster cannons.
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>>336530920

>The same company that created Rogue Leader created Lair.

What the hell happened to them?
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>>336529863

Because bombers + engines = they lose them anyway while retreating?
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>>336530687
You're thinking of one of the other A-Wing pilots that got jumped by two Interceptors.
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>>336530538
lives on in the thermal imploder
https://youtu.be/8A160piVq0E
kids are calling it the dubstep granade, sadly
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>>336524471
praise be to salahadin
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>>336531061
was Lair any good?
I heard they patched out motion controls
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>>336529689

She's really the worst of it. A good lead would allow us to grudgingly overlook some other issues, but she's so terrible. The extended version will come out and people will say it fixes everything, when at best it'll be a bandaid. Hollywood is afraid of actually making a good female lead, because that would mean showing her being weak on occasion - we can't have that. Luke was a whiny brat for most of the first film, and sloppy and impatient for most of ESB.
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>>336531061
>Factor 5 got help from the German secret service to reverse engineer a devkit for the N64.
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>Naboo Starfighter before episode 1 came out

Fuck man that annoyed the shit out of me when I was a kid because I had no idea what it was and had no internet to look shit up on.
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>>336529750

The prequels should have been set at least 60 years or ideally several centuries prior.
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>>336531046
No u
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>>336530304

Brilliant, learning about your crotchfruit has brought meaning to my life.
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>>336531520
The naboo starfighter was locked and unviewable. It was only until Star Wars Ep 1 came out did the released the code to unlock it. Blew everyone's mind
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>>336528693
The camera doesn't follow most of the fighters in the default view and has to be switched to an alternate view in order to work correctly, and the game cannot be played windowed. Otherwise, it's the best version if you don't have Windows XP
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>Barely managed to fly the Falcon
>Almost killed everyone by releasing the alien things Han had captured
>Ran away like a scared bitch when introduced to the Force
Why are people saying she's perfect?
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>>336531276

It had a good core concept, solid music and much grander scale than the Rogue Squadron battle areas. But goddamn did it run like shit, had to be 20fps or lower sometimes. And I would swear that the lock-on system was just outright broken because I'd be staring straight at the enemy I'd want and my dragon would swerve his retarded head around to the dude who just passed me and was impossible to hit.
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>ywn be trained by obiwan
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>>336532090
>she will never teach you a certain point of view philosophy
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The Galaxy is huge and the Jedi probably only had a thousand or so members. They were considered a legend on most planets outside of the republic and even most citizens probably barely had much to do with them. When the Empire took control they went to great lengths to erase the Jedi from history. It's not inconceivable that the next generation would view them as myths and stories.
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>>336532198
>ywn hear her witty quips
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>>336532362
>ywn wake up next to her after an intense training session
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>>336531963

>Barely managed to fly the Falcon

She did a Death Star trench-like run through a star destroyer after like two minutes of piloting it, it you retard.

>Ran away like a scared bitch when introduced to the Force

She then makes Yoda and every other Jedi in existence look like amateurs who wasted their entire lives since she can already lift objects, block mindreading, use the mind trick and battle with a lightsaber.
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>>336531556
>Religion has been around for thousands and thousands of years
>not ancient

Put your fucking helmet on and go to bed
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>>336532090
>>336532198
>>336532362
>>336532440

What is this gay shit
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>>336531963
>barely fly
Maybe at first, then suddenly became an ace pilot despite no training. Also could speak several languages and despite no training became a powerful force user
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>>336533053
Cute Obiwan
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>>336526670
sublight speed =/= ftl speed

That number is a sublight acceleration or something.
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>>336533181
Star Wars would have been better this way
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>>336528632
Is it a good port?
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>>336532090

I fantasize about being a female jedi who is captured by a bounty hunter but eventually falls in love with each other

Lesbianism
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>click on thread hoping for people to talk about Rogue Squadron
>slowly turning into queers RPing
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>>336525032
>you will never own a full scale replica of a Y-Wing
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>>336532090
I didnt know I wanted to see Obiwan like a loving mother
Now I need more
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>>336533906

y even wing
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>>336534061
Too bad there's not much.
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>>336533681
tfw you will never be apprehended by a hunter, stripped naked, and frozen in carbonite to be displayed as a trophy and sold off to some crime lord, while people ogle your shiny lewd body for years to come
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>>336527572
Did they try bypassing the compressor?
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>>336524471
>X-Wings get used for everything just because some guy used it to destroy the Daeth Star (Force Assisted too)

Bet retards were building Millennium Falcons because it flew right into the Second One.
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>>336534674
The Falcon is simply a modified stock YT-1300 freighter. There are thousands of them in existence.
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>>336533262
>Obi Wan and Anakin /ss/
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>>336534980
Yeah but you just know the Weyland-Yutani Corporation or whoever makes them is going to plaster that on every ad and jack the price up.
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>>336535461
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>There will never be a game like Elite Dangerous or Star Citizen set in the Star Wars universe.
Why live?
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>>336535610
>>336534194
>>336534061
Didn't see this part of the thread

Fuck /ss/, this shit is too pure.
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>>336535771
How 'bout qui gon and obiwan then?
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>>336535952
Stop

My cold, jaded, neet heart cant take this anon.
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Will we ever see a good Star Wars game again?
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>>336536319
No
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>not picking Slave 1
>not barrel rolling and spamming Sonic Charges
Shiggy
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who /jedi/ here?
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>>336525032
This, it's the De Havilland Mosquito of Star Wars.
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>>336527236
imps masterrace
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>>336536319
The last good SW game is from 2006.
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TIE Fighter > X-Wing Alliance > everything else
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>>336527236
the Pentastar Alignment
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>>336530687
That's Arvel Crynyd.
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Pic related is what makes rebel scum cry for mercy.
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>>336530687
women drivers amirite
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>>336530018
I like how the bombs make a pretty flash but do no damage to the asteroid whatsoever. They don't even knock any rocks around.
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>>336531119
She does look a LOT like the kamikaze guy, though. And for some reason, they had a man dub over her voice.
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>>336531061
Factor 5 were wizards, but even wizards needed longer than they had to figure out how to optimize for the bullshit Cell processor.
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I wonder how that Star Wars mod for Freespace 2 is doing. I haven't checked it out in a while.
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>>336537484

For a second, I thought that was the Missile Boat and was going to laugh at it for only having a single laser cannon

Goddamn the Gunboat caused me endless pain in the X-Wing series. It's a Y-Wing on steroids; same dual lasers + dual ion cannons, fast, larger (?) missile capacity...

Was more maneuverable too
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>>336540478
That thing was pure aids to fight. I was more afraid of 2 of those then I was an entire squadron of TIE Interceptors
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>>336537367
so easy to win as them just defend for awhile and build money up really quickly and bust out 20 star destroyers
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>>336524745

That game was only on the N64 and PC.

Gamecube got Rogue Squadron II and III
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>>336538589
There were three women pilots. The one got dubbed over by a man and the other two were cut.
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>>336541472
Boy it would have been nice if instead of adding Hayden at the end for no logical reason, they added these pilots back in. And the Mon Calamari pilot while they were at it
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lol
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>>336541674
Must you reminded us of that thing. KJA was the worse thing to happen to Star Wars. Up there or even ahead of the prequels
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>>336538589

My favorite dub is Aunt Beru. She had such a thick Scottish accent no one could understand her.
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>>336541674

Yeah, the EU sure was great.
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$24 Battlefront on Origin

y/n?
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>>336541472
I wonder what it's like to film scenes as a starfighter pilot. There have to be at least a few moments where you feel kind of silly just sitting there pretending things are going on, as if you were a kid playing at home.
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Has anybody tried the steam release yet? Is it any good?
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>>336542264
Too late already bought it
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>>336541809
And of course, there's also David Prowse as Darth Vader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSm9DDxQv8E
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>>336542263
Or getting all dressed up just to say maybe two or three lines.
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>>336533480
the PC version is the original but on modern computers it will run without graphical acceleration, you need to fuck around with a wrapper to have it accelerated but it's a fucking mess to do and I haven't succeded
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>>336542263
https://youtu.be/vHnhxHMJcJ4
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>>336529039
In interviews printed with the books, they say they killed Chewie so that the series would have "impact". Killing major characters usually became their go-to strategy when the series weren't doing so good.

Not so much "edge" as a total lack of ability at writing decent stories. Then again, the Vong wars where such a clusterfuck that one has to wonder why they wrote so many novels out of that era.
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A wings are my waifus
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>>336530432
these were so obviously added later
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>>336542635
> All the Rebels on that ship.
Sweet fuck were they planning on boarding a ship wit the Falcon?

Han must have hated all those guys running around fixing his ship.
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>>336542865
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>>336541645
No shit. Would have been better than episode 7 too
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>>336542834
>Killing major characters usually became their go-to strategy when the series weren't doing so good.

Who else died? I remember Crix Madine dying in that shitty Darksaber novel, but he wasn't exactly a main character.
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>>336524471
I preferred the Naboo Starfighter :^)
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>>336531439

>The extended version will come out and people will say it fixes everything, when at best it'll be a bandaid.

Wait is there going to be an extended version or are you just speculating?
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>>336534061
Obi-Wan being a motherly figure would've probably fixed most of Anakin's trauma, too.

Truly we can't have nice things.
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>>336535479
YT-1300s where already around during the Clone Wars. CEC is just fucking great at making versatile space trucks that look like junk. And the Millenium Falcon is modded to hell and back, making it much better then stock YT-1300s

Plus, you know, the Falcon's specs are technically illegal.
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>>336542635
The actress they dubbed over actually had a pretty nice voice. They should have left it alone.

Anyway, thanks for posting that. It was interesting to watch. I'm kind of surprised that they had all the pilots say the exact same lines, though.
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>>336543314
Had one of those back 10 years ago with star wars cards. Time flies.
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>>336542263
Now try acting out a Jedi fighting CGI robots surrounded by green screens.
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>>336542635
I want gifs of the guys operating the Falcon's turrets. It just looks so silly out of context.
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>>336542919
One of the guys maneuvering the guns is Cracken, the Alliance's resident ship nerd and master of duct taping shit together to make it do crazy stuff. If anything, the Falcon was never in a better shape then before the battle.
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>>336537484

My favorite Star Wars fighter, no contest:
>lasers
>ions
>missiles
>shields
>hyperdrive
>based on the labda shuttle instead of TIE for extra hipster points

Jack of all trades, who needs to be a master at anything when you're suitable for all missions?
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>>336543692
I always lacked Cracken but man Han must have hated when he discovered the Rebellion put like a squad or 2 of soldiers on his ship
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>>336530643
Wish I had a starwars themed one for this but damn did I laugh
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>>336543068
They killed EU favorites Mara Jade and Anakin Solo. Gave Pellaeon the shittiest death ever. Killed Kenth Hamner through the most retarded of circumstances. And let's not talk about Tahiri and Jacen.

Chewie was the only guy from the main OT cast they killed, sure, but that opened the way to a shitload of character deaths, which kinda diluted the impact.
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>>336543820
Dude was probably too busy noticing the lack of sensor dish on his ship.
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>>336543506
A lot of things look silly behind the scenes.
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>>336526927
The Kessel Run passes by a bunch of black holes. If your distance traveling it is shorter, that means you fly closer to the black holes. Eat shit and die.
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>>336527890
I finally understand that gif.

10/10.
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>>336524471
>The Incom T-65 X-wing is the fighter that killed the Death Star.

no, poor planning killed the deathstar

all they had to do was put fucking vent covers on it! why wouldn't they make the areas that lead into those places harder to access?

>>336524745
OH WHATS THAT!? CUT FPS!?
SHIT STILL NOT RUNNING LIKE ON CONSOLE?!

PC MASTER RACE!?

yeah, thought so, fucking faggots.
just get a system and the game, they are cheap as fuck.
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>>336544587
You ok anon? You sound a little upset.
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>>336544587
Stop being retarded. The T-65 made the kill shot so it is the fighter that killed the DS.

Saying it isnt because it is the planners fault is like saying that if a sniper rifle hits a man, goes through the soldiers body armor, and kills him, he was not killed by the sniper rifle but the company that designed the body armor.

The Sniper rifle was the weapon that fired the bullet that killed him so that makes the sniper rifle the weapon that killed the man.


As for the second part, why would they? They didnt know that was a major weakness. The designer didnt know that getting a special type of warhead into the vent would cause something to blow up which caused something else to blow up which keeps happening until the explosions make it to the main reactor and the whole thing blows up.

Its like people who complain about why Tarkin didnt fire the DS at Yavin Prime. The answer is simply "why would he? He didnt know what would happen"
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>>336544587
>>336545306
>why wouldn't they make the areas that lead into those places harder to access?
>They didnt know that was a major weakness. The designer didnt know that getting a special type of warhead into the vent would cause something to blow up which caused something else to blow up which keeps happening until the explosions make it to the main reactor and the whole thing blows up.

Worth pointing out that the vent wasn't all that vulnerable of a weakness. It was nearly impossible to hit normally, and Luke being able to use the force to hit it was something they could have never predicted
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>>336545916
And yet Sheev still thought the designer deserved to be tortured to death, resurrected, and tortured to death again for it.
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>>336546296
Well ya. Sheevs an asshole. He killed his gardener by causing the elevator he was in to crash because the gardener got offered a better paying job that the gardener wanted to take
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>>336546296
To be fair, that "little" flaw cost them a Quadrillion dollar Space Station.
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>>336541472
>tfw badass pilot grandma got cut

Why? That would have been cool as shit

>empire killed your grandkids
>so you decide to kill the empire
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>>336548041
A lot of interesting things got cut.
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>>336549027
Good thing GL gave us that new song though at the start. And that alien singing in the camera
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>>336549027
Jerjerrod had some pretty good deleted scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JLOcquqyJI

Bonus: More David Prowse at the beginning.
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>>336551236
Although I'm not sure what blowing up the moon would have accomplished.
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"Yo mama so fat, Ben Kenobi said "That's no moon, that's yo mama!""
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>>336524471

Is the Steam version worth it? Does it have controller support? I have the original cartridge but too lazy to dig my N64 out.
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>>336551470
Kill the Rebels (Luke's friends) on the moon.
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>>336524471
>raid on sullest
>All those homing missile turrets.
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>>336527890
Fuck me, that's beautiful
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>>336530223
I miss the sun crusher. Do I remember wrong or did it survive a supernova with its cargo bay open?

Also why the fuck didn't they bring y wings on the bombing mission in force awakens. It drives me up the wall thinking about that
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>>336551584
Meanwhile the Rebel fleet still destroys the Death Star.
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>>336551991
>Also why the fuck didn't they bring y wings on the bombing mission in force awakens.
Y-wings were obsolete even in Episode IV. They should have used B-wings.
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star wars is for girls now, it's time to let go
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>>336552219
B-Wings got cannibalized.
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>>336552219
They should've used some sort of bomber dammit
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>>336551991
Because that would be stupid and pointless

Why bring a star fighter that is has been obsolete for nearly 50 year (by the time of ANH it was already considered obsolete) when the T-70 X-Wing can do everything the Y-Wing could do, and a lot of the things it can do better.

The X-Wing is faster, more maneuverable, and thanks to the update T-70 it is entirely possible that the T-70 had equal or better armor/shields and it definitely had equal or more warheads.

TL;DR No reason to. X-Wing did the job better.


>>336552219
It is possible the T-70 simply surpased the B-Wing at the job in question.

>>336552381
You use what you got, not what you want. Did you see any B-Wings on the base. The T-70 isnt even the X-Wing being used by the NR, they use the T-85 (I just now discovered this looking something up) and they only had the T-70s because they got donated to them. I
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Die Rouge Squadron series.

X-Wing / Tie Fighter Series Ubermensch.
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>>336551991
I'm assuming the assumption they just soft retconned everything but the X-Wing existing. Unless I forgot a cameo somewhere.
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>>336552619
>The X-Wing is faster, more maneuverable

according to the movie physics stopped happening at some point and everything is infinitely maneuverable
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>>336552376
Well, fuck.
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>>336552662
>can't use the Buick Electra
No thanks
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>A-wings shields
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>>336552619
>It is possible the T-70 simply surpased the B-Wing at the job in question.
It would still be nice to see other fighters besides X-wings and standard TIEs.
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>>336552810
>yfw the Buick is still getting put into video games
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>>336552942
Oh I agree completely. I would love to see more fighters. Hence why Im happy that the A-Wing was confirmed to be in EP. 8
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>>336552974
Good. It's the best "ship".
>shields of a Y-Wing
>speed of an A-Wing
>speedy speed boy mode of an X-Wing
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>>336552831
>implying A-wings have shields
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>>336542263
It is awkard and feel really silly, but you basically have to get over yourself and go back to being ten years old and playing spaceship in your parent's parked car.
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>>336553143
I think the last game it was put in is an Iphone game about fish.
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>>336552974

But you can't suck Thrawns big blue DICK.
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>>336542449
I have a soft spot for Prowse's Vader. He sounds mad as fuck, and that's fitting.
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Is X-Wing Alliance any good?
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>>336544587
>All they had to do was put fucking vent covers on it! why wouldn't they make the areas that lead into those places harder to access?

Except there was one guy who took a shot before Luke so it'd end up the same way.

>First guy shoots the vent
>punches a hole through the vent
>Luke makes the million:one shot and blows the Death Star up
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>>336553354
I only suck canon cock.
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Can someone explain something. What is the scale of the First Order compared to the original Empire. AFAICT they are just a small splinter with 1 Star Destroyer and that stupid Starkiller moon.
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>>336553440
yes

there's too many goddamn buttons though
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>>336551470
>>336551584

Interesting. He was pretty fucking gung-ho about blowing up Endor in the novel. Hell I think it was even his idea.
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>>336553549
>my joystick & throttle has too many goddamn buttons for everything but DCS
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>>336553536
They have a a good number of planets that they've subjugated that follow the First Order instead of the Imperial Remnant.

Obviously they're smaller and more in the Outer Rim because the Republic now controls the Core Worlds.
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>RotJ has all these different spacecraft filling out the Star Wars universe
>TFA just has X-Wings and TIE fighters
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>>336541674
when i was reading the book i never imagined it to look this stupid

Han quickly pushed her away. He looked up at his daughter, his heart thudding hard. The first time had been a mistake, a horrible mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. But, if he did what Jaina asked and what he so dreadfully wanted, there would be no justification for his actions at all, except his perverse lust for his own daughter. He was about to get out of his seat and take Jaina home, but he stopped when she took off her flight jacket and let it fall to the floor.
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>>336553753
This bothered me too
At least Ep 8 has already confirmed A-Wings are coming back
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>>336553536
The First Order is a tiny fraction of what the Empire was.

One year after Endor the Empire and Rebels fought the battle of Jakku. The Empire lost their last SSD and got beat so hard they were done as a fighting force. They were forced to sign the space treaty of Versailles.

They had to pay reparations and were forced to demilitarizes. The Empire withered away and died off. The First Order broke off from it and retreated away and began to rebuild. First rearming in secret and shit. Also the Republic didn't consider them much of a threat and ignored things so that's why the Resistance came about.


So yes Disney made the First Order even more Nazi bad guys than you realized.
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>>336553753
Better to start simple and THEN go balls to the wall.
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>>336553753
>battling a massive planet sized battle station
>Don't bring a single Y-wing to do bombing runs on it
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>>336553536
Guess it's kind of like Dark Forces/Jedi Knight (Like one of my only outlets to the EU since I never read Thrawn) where the Empire Splintered but still held a nasty foothold in the Galaxy.
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>>336553753
>>336553870
>>336553956

Apparently the Rebel Alliance had to scale back their military capabilities significantly after the New Republic took over. That's why they only have a handful of T-70 X wings.
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>>336553972
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>>336553956
But bro, Y-Wings were already badly out-dated and being phased out immediately after Yavin
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>>336553872
It's a big galaxy but I still don;t see how they built some kind of Proto-Star Frge on a planet without anyone noticing. Unless Darth Snooker is secretly part of the Republic and giving them money.
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>>336553872
>>336553661
Ok. Guess that explains the lack of Tie Interceptors and stuff.

Will be interesting to find out who Snookie is.
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>>336526927
>>336527645
That line was meant to be Han bullshitting them.
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>>336554050
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>>336553651
Reminds me, I have a have a old Saitek X35T and X36F someone gave me ages ago that I wanted to try on games like that.

For some odd reason the thing DISABLED the mouse wheel(I think it was driver related), and the X36F for some darned reason's plastic has a sticky goo.

Seems to have been a common problem that rubbing alcohol should fix, but maybe I should just look into getting something more recent if I seriously want to get back into these games....
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>>336554125
>Ok. Guess that explains the lack of Tie Interceptors and stuff.

Here have some concept art of TFA with Tie Interceptors.

Also I'm pretty sure they mentioned that we wont get origins for Snoke.
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>>336553872
wait so everything to the left of corusant the main planet in the galaxy was unexplored? wtf
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>>336554314
Still is, too.
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>>336554134
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>>336554314
there are more stars in the galaxy than there are stars in the universe
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>>336542263
Not to mention that they only ever had one of each cockpit and probably had pieces (i.e. the things you were supposed to be looking at) for the vast majority of the shots to get the camera in.
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>>336553956
>Dangerous hit and run that requires getting in quickly but doing a lot of damage
>Bring a starfighter that is 50 years obsolete when you have two dozens starfighters that can do everything the former does but better
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>>336554363
3000 turbolasers, christ
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>>336554314
It has been like that for decades. And there are known planets there but that area of the galaxy has been so poorly explored by the legitimate governments the name fits.

Pirates chill in the area all the time as a base of operation (if they survive)
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>>336549027
>>336551236
That was really really neat. Absolute shame it was cut.
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>>336554003
That sounds suspiciously like an excuse to be lazy when making the movie.
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>>336554363
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>>336555765
It sounds suspiciously like an excuse to keep jacking off to the original trilogy with the small rebellion vs big bad empire plot line even though you have a perfectly good new republic

It was really disappointing that they blew the chance to have some larger-scale battles between proper standing armies. Not as big as the clone wars, but a change of pace from dirty smelly rebels hiding in holes
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>>336555831
whats even the point of making a station that large?

how many people live in this galaxy? You are talking billions of Empire Soldiers here. and yet the resistance is like... 20 xwings.

A single battle in star wars would take days even weeks of fighting for a single space battle and cost the lives of tens of millions of people. Entire solar systems would be stripped clean of their resources to construct the armor and mechanized weapons of that universe.

Star Wars Writers instead think a little over a million stormtroopers were be enough to fight a war on a galactic scale. ww2 cost the lives of around 21 million soldiers and 33million civilians.

What is SCALE
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>>336529750
Originally the Jedi order was probably supposed to have been slowly fading into obscurity, with Vader and Emperor simply finishing the job on their demise.

At least, that would make sense. Lucas doesn't make sense very often.
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>>336554003
>scale back their military capabilities significantly
doesn't make sense. Even then they would have conflicts on their own planets to fight and would require a military force comparable to the population (1 trillion a planet, more than 140x that of earth) so imagine how large of a military they would require simply to keep the peace. Star Wars is a nasty violent place as well,

Pic is just the US total aircraifts. 20 xwings =/= resistance of this scale. That would be like saying a police force for a town of 10,000 would be able to take on the entire world's army and have any effect whatsoever. Even Islamic terrorists are in the millions of fighters.
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>>336557179
Good riddance. the Jedi/Sith fuck everything up
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>>336557179
Lucas changed his mind a lot when it came to Star Wars. Hell you should see those issues of that old Star Wars magazine back before Empire Strikes Back came out. There was shit in it talking about how the Emperor was just a figure head and Tarkin was planning to use the Death Star to take over and Vader was plotting to betray Tarkin.
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>>336554816

The Tu-96 and B-52 bombers are still flying and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. Some designs are just reliable and adaptable enough to stand the test of time.
And they'd fit in with an underfunded resistance cell. There has to be thousand of Y-Wings still kicking around the galaxy. Seems weird to me that they're willing to cobble together some Frankenstein'd transport but don't want to touch the old, rugged workhorse. I'm guessing what it boils down to is that it just doesn't look cool enough for Abrams.

>>336555975

As bad as the EU could be, I liked how it showed the Rebellion transforming into the Republic, with all the infighting, politics and endless numbers of warlords popping up that came with that process. It gave a good feeling of just how massive the Empire was and what a huge change it's dissolution posed for the galaxy.
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>>336554816
>going to war with a handful of ships when the new order would have their entire fleet there. Warships capable of transporting and housing millions of soldiers and god knows how many space craft.

They just don't get scale at all.
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>>336557534
>The Tu-96 and B-52 bombers are still flying and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future.

Don't forget the F-4 Phantom. Flew in Vietnam, and with upgrades she can still do well today.
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>>336557534
The B-52 and TU-96 continue to fly because they fill a hole that needs filling but nobody really wants to spend money on anymore, and there's only so many ways to build a bomb truck.
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>>336525239
>>>/tv/

lol I think you mean

>>>/vr/
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>>336557534
Here is the difference between the B-52 and the Y-Wing. No one claimed the B-52 is obsolete because it gets the job done.

The Y-Wing was considered obsolete by ANH which is why the Rebellion used it, because they were able to get their hands on it because no one wanted it. However, the Y-Wing is even more obsolete then it use to be. Why use a Y-Wing when you can use a T-70. What does the Y-Wing bring that the T-70 does? The 2 craft carry the same amount of warheads. Literally bring the Y-Wing adds nothing and act increases the chance of failure. The Y-Wing is obsolete

>>336557682
Oh I cant argue with that
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>>336557454
could you imagine the logistics involved in running a multi-billion soldier army? You would be keep track of not only your main war, but also the internal civil wars within your own forces. A single section of your military would be a complete world of it's own with mutliple nations within. It would be absolute chaos.
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>not a single mention of V-Wings
>IN THE WHOLE FUCKING THREAD

What a pile of shit of a thread this is, literally plebs arguing against equally shit plebs.
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>>336558041
I could see some potential for a setting in which this gets played with. Layers upon layers of alliances, with each 'side' really being a collection of hundreds upon hundreds of individual armies.
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>>336558040
>Oh I cant argue with that

It would have been a massive war just getting to that death star. It made no sense why the new order didn't have any of their forces already airborne and protecting their flagship weapon. An attack like that would have taken everything the resistance had to even get close. Like, completely suicidal for the grand majority of them.

but nope they just fly in super casual like it ain't no thang. There is absolutely no fucking way in hell that attack would have succeeded with that many ships and no way in hell a military force wouldn't have expected it.

For fuck's sake they know a single shield generate can be taken down by like 3 fucking people and sine koala bears. Just build smaller moon like structures to orbit your death star with each one having their own shield generator.

If they had only a dozen of those it means the resistance with their 20 xwings wouldn't be able to get close.

fffuuuuckkkinnngggg star warrrssssss
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>>336558454
Koalas aren't bears.
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>>336558454
Not to mention Phasma literally dooms the entire station because an old dude, a bear, and a custodian pointed guns at her for five seconds on a space station filled with millions of her own soldiers
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>>336558518
"koala bear" is just a name. Like "red panda" or "Prairie dog"

So way to autism faggot.
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>>336558605
But it's not. It's an incorrect name used by retarded American and sometimes Japanese tourists. Koalas are just called koalas.
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>>336527048
Tell that to Kanji Klub.
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>>336524471
> 4 blaster cannons
sure.
why not actual peashooters instead?
Blasters are anti-infantry/light vehicle weapons, everything bigger than a car has lasers.

How about knowing actual shit before making these kinds of threads, and I don´t even like SW.
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>>336558454
I agree with you.

I dont know if this makes it better or worse but its worth point up that is exactly what happens in ANH.

Maybe it was simply the FO wasnt really worried. The Reistance, by the end, had lost like 80% of their fighters and they only succeeded in their mission because of Han. Had Chewie and Han not blown a hole from the inside big enough for an X-Wing, the Resistance fighters would have all been shot down and the resistance base destroyed with the Starkiller needing only a paint job

>>336558863
What are you talking about? the OP is quoting the game Rogue Squadron.
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>>336558660
are you this god damn dense.

People call them koala bears. People call kinds of shit different names based on their region. Lightning bug or firefly. Pop or soda. Beanie or toboggan or sock cap.

Etymology mother fucker. Koala Bear is just a god damn name not a scientific description.

Koala Facts
Kingdom: Five groups that classify all living things... Animalia
Genus: A group of animals within a family... Phascolarctos
Scientific Name: Comprised of the genus followed by the species... Phascolarctos cinereus
Common Name: Most widely used name for the species... Koala
Other Name(s): Koala Bear
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>>336559367
>Going this far to justify use of a common misconception among mouthbreathers
Life must be hard for you, anon.
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>>336559061
>I agree with you.
I know I'm just kinda ranting. The whole scene felt off because of the lack of ships. The entire time I was like.. where the fuck is everyone? Is this it?

>>336558573
She had such faith in all of her soldiers too. "They have been conditioned since birth!" The whole movie they kept drilling in the fact how hardcore and dedicated The New Order were. I'm assuming she had the same training. Apparently their conditioning and dedication is fucking worthless since it took almost nothing to turn on her own people. Not even just a small bit of treason. This was fucking huge.

Fucking shit tier writing.
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>>336559427
>common misconception among mouthbreathers
I think you need to stop and think a bit there dipshit. YOu're the one butthurt over a simple name.

Life must be hard for you constantly worrying about other people using common phrases and names that might be just a bit factually incorrect.
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>Infinite Warfare has space battles
>Battlefront doesn't

we are made men by the salt
undone by the salt
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>>336559685
Is Salt and Sanctuary fun?
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>>336559427
>mouthbreather
ok anon
>pushes up glasses
>*weezes*
>-ugh- ughmm actualyl uh koalas
>*weezes* again
>a-aren't bears.
>hue hue *weeze* hue hue p-pathetic n-normie p-p-pleb
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>>336538343
They're bunker busters, designed to detonate within the caverns of the Asteroid
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>>336559843
I figured they were EMPs or something like that. Like the bombs in firefly when the Serenity was hiding from the rogue cops.
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Oh nice a Rogue Squadron thre..
>It's actually a non-vidya Star Wars thread

>>>/tv/
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>>336558660
Why does is it so important to you that people call Koala bears "koalas".
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>>336558573

>First Order is supposed to be more fanatical and evil than the Empire is succeeded
>Commander of the ground forces surrenders without a fight and complies with the demands of the opposition, dooming the superweapon that most likely cost the First Order untold resources

I mean you could maybe argue that she thought the base was indestructible, but that was seriously not in character for a bunch of so called fanatics.
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>>336557534
>I'm guessing what it boils down to is that it just doesn't look cool enough for Abrams.
Yep. The only real reason is abrams, kasdan, and disney are unimaginative hacks. The """ new""" X is just the concept art of the old one, the TIE is a recolour, and starkiller base is worse than the old sun crusher.

Its pretty clear JJ wanted to blow up courscant and kill of Poe, but disney realized he was fucking up HARD so they invented a different city planet and brought him back with a few reshoots
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>>336553661
>The Repubic now controls the Core Worlds.

Why do they call themselves the Resistance ? Shouldn't they have a real fucking army instead of this shitty guerrilla ?
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>>336562613
Something about the Republic not wanting to start full scale war so they fund glorified terrorist groups to fight for them.
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>>336562613
Because they're not the Republic. The Republic itself was just sitting back doing nothing. So Leia and some others just formed a group to fight the FO.
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>>336562830

It doesn't sound all that unrealistic when you put it that way.
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Tried to Emulate Rogue Squadron the other day. apparently its not at all fucking possible.

how the fuck did n64 run the shit, Anons?
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>>336563000
The series is well known for using arcane magic and ancient curses to run. It was only recently that Rogue Squadron 2 and 3 got working on emulators and my understanding is that it's still not well. For reference, Rogue Squadron 2 was a launch title with an incredibly short dev cycle and still looks pretty nice today.
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>>336525032
ma nigga.
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>>336559367
I have to agrre with the other anon, never heard anyone saying koala bears in my country, just koalas.
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>>336562862
And yet they manage to get a bunch of "new" x wings instead of having to salvage a bunch of shit from the OT like they're an african warlord's army using slavshit from 30-90 years ago
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>>336563596
>I have never heard it or seen it
>therefore it doesn't happen or exist
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>>336564089
Because of people like Leia and some other senators backing the Resistance in secret. That's why General man's speech mentions Republic lies or something.
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>>336564089
The 'new' ones are a generation behind what the Republic is using.
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>>336563285

Rebels just ain't the same, man.
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friendly reminder that both b-wings and a-wings are introduced in "rebels" before the x-wing and y-wing

pure garbage

ruined the show
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>>336564913
>whole 12 x-wings
>yay we have the air force of kenya
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>>336563285
why are they cheering? They fucking walk mindlessly to their deaths in 99% of the scenes involving them. They never fight like their lives are worth anything.
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>>336564913
rogue squadron manages to get a whole squadron of x-wings in the bacta war
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>>336565741
Everyone enjoys a good bombing run.
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>>336530432
>0:10
There needs to be more spaceship porn in the NT
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>>336565552
Dont forget B-Wings are armed with a super laser that can one shot frigates. 3-4 B-Wings could probably one shot ISDs with that laser.

Fuck I dont even know why the Rebellion uses starfighters anymore. Just get a few CR-90 Corvettes, put a handful of those super lasers on it and laugh and you pulverize entire fleets but never even get in danger. The extra power supply of the corvette would mean the hyperdrive is fine. Oh and lets not forget the laser is apparently dirt cheap sense a nobody built it by himself using stick and stones and random wreckage.
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